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Best excuses if Roddick and/or Fish win a set or a match in Sevilla

Neely
11-28-2004, 01:34 PM
In analogy to the "best excuses if Gaudio wins a set or a match in Houston" thread, let's also have one for the big underdogs in the Davis Cup final ;)

Sure, that goes without saying, we all know that Fish completely, thoroughly, totally, fully, entirely sucks sooooooooo much on clay... and ditto Roddick, of course!!!!!


So what will be the best excuses if Fish and/or Roddick win a set or even a match ( :ignore: ) off the Spanish team?


I'll start right away...

- Carlos choked as usual
- The Spaniards have been inhibited playing in front of this 26000 people home crowd, the pressure to win was too big on them
- it was clear that Ferrero is going to lose a set/a match because he had poor results over the whole year
- Ferrero's back started acting up again
- ....


continue the list... and I expect you to be creative... even though, similiarly to Gaudio's performance in Houston, we probably won't need any at all...

Yashirobai
11-28-2004, 03:20 PM
A thypical one would be - Fish played the match of his life...

I don't think -hopfeully- we'll need to use them, as you say, though ;)

CooCooCachoo
11-28-2004, 03:24 PM
"Moyá can't really beat a Top 5 player"

"Fish really managed to get accustomed to the surface and atmosphere"

Deboogle!.
11-28-2004, 04:06 PM
I don't think "Fish played the match of his life" is an excuse, is it? I mean that would be an actual compliment to Mardy ;):p

Neely, you are too much! :worship:

buddyholly
11-28-2004, 04:09 PM
I don't think "Fish played the match of his life" is an excuse, is it? I mean that would be an actual compliment to Mardy ;):p

Neely, you are too much! :worship:

It is meant to be the excuse the Spaniards would use.

Deboogle!.
11-28-2004, 04:32 PM
no, I think the Spanish team is above using excuses. I think it's folks here at MTF she was referring to ;)

gogo_guga
11-28-2004, 04:38 PM
Roddick and Fish bribed the Spaniards while they were drunk

buddyholly
11-28-2004, 04:52 PM
no, I think the Spanish team is above using excuses. I think it's folks here at MTF she was referring to ;)

Oh Thanks. Then my excuse is:

''I NEVER said that the Duck would DEFINITELY not win a set. I just said that hell would freeze over first. You Duck fans are always picking fights on these boards, you are all scumbags, you are all dumb, you should all be banned. GWH was right.'' :p :p :p :devil: :devil:

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2004, 05:57 PM
no, I think the Spanish team is above using excuses.

You've apparently never read a Ferrero post match comment before.

Buddy
11-28-2004, 06:34 PM
"They were simply the better player today."

Deboogle!.
11-28-2004, 06:41 PM
"They were simply the better player today."

If any of the people on MTF to whom I interpret Neely directing this joke actually say this... I will.... I don't know what I'll do. but hell will definitely have frozen over :lol:

you're so sweet, Buddy, I see you always try to say positive and friendly things about players and people here :hug:

RPH
11-28-2004, 07:51 PM
Roddick amazingly really has taking to this surface and crowd like a duck to water
Roddick has ducked all the pressure form the Spanish to win this set
Surprisingly Mardy hasn't looked like a Fish out of water
The Spanaird is playing like a Mardy no risks

Good excuses IMO :)

alfonsojose
11-28-2004, 08:28 PM
Ferrero's new Head raquect ;) didn't work. "The raquect failed me. I'm going to switch to Babolat, like Andy. Look what he did today" :tape:

alfonsojose
11-28-2004, 08:33 PM
Pat McEnroe .. "Spadea's anus has been so relaxing for us" :drool: :angel:

User id 7816
11-28-2004, 08:44 PM
"apparently Roddick doesn't suck that much on clay" :haha:
yes, similarly to similarly similarly similar thread, we actually know Spain won't need our excuses advice eh.

star
11-28-2004, 09:12 PM
Oh Thanks. Then my excuse is:

''I NEVER said that the Duck would DEFINITELY not win a set. I just said that hell would freeze over first. You Duck fans are always picking fights on these boards, you are all scumbags, you are all dumb, you should all be banned. GWH was right.'' :p :p :p :devil: :devil:

:haha: :haha:

Leena
11-28-2004, 09:14 PM
P-Mac was right that Andy is very talented on clay.

MisterQ
11-28-2004, 09:48 PM
The large arena allowed Roddick to play in his zone, 6 meters (19.69 feet) behind the baseline. ;)

star
11-28-2004, 09:51 PM
:)

Deboogle!.
11-28-2004, 10:29 PM
The large arena allowed Roddick to play in his zone, 6 meters (19.69 feet) behind the baseline. ;)

:haha: :haha:

buddyholly
11-29-2004, 03:28 AM
Pat McEnroe .. "Spadea's anus has been so relaxing for us" :drool: :angel:

There you go again. Tut! Tut!

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 03:35 AM
The large arena allowed Roddick to play in his zone, 6 meters (19.69 feet) behind the baseline. ;)

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Thank you for the metric and imperial versions for this excuse.

superpinkone37
11-29-2004, 05:10 AM
The large arena allowed Roddick to play in his zone, 6 meters (19.69 feet) behind the baseline. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 05:12 AM
Considering that the US should win a match I will be looking forward to the excuses anyway.

Chloe le Bopper
11-29-2004, 05:14 AM
I actually had a dream last night that Roddick beat Ferrero on clay in Rome next year. Ferrero still hadn't managed to get back to where he once was, still lingering in the 30s, and Roddick took advantage of his crap play. Ferrero was serving to stay in the match at 5-6 15-30 when he double faulted to hand Roddick double match point. Then he smackd a routine forehand long to end the match. Roddick was elated, Ferrero was deflated. I too, was deflated.

Perish the thought.

Leena
11-29-2004, 05:17 AM
I'd love to see Roddick win both of his matches... just to piss everyone here off.

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 05:21 AM
I'd love to see Roddick win both of his matches... just to piss everyone here off.

It won't happen. I am actually more interested in the reception he will get. :)

Leena
11-29-2004, 05:24 AM
It can happen. Only need like 80 BAM aces.

Plus, Andy won St. Polten. Ajmo.

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 05:26 AM
It can happen. Only need like 80 BAM aces.

Plus, Andy won St. Polten. Ajmo.

That post deserves good reps for putting a huge smile on my face.

liptea
11-29-2004, 05:36 AM
I actually had a dream last night that Roddick beat Ferrero on clay in Rome next year. Ferrero still hadn't managed to get back to where he once was, still lingering in the 30s, and Roddick took advantage of his crap play. Ferrero was serving to stay in the match at 5-6 15-30 when he double faulted to hand Roddick double match point. Then he smackd a routine forehand long to end the match. Roddick was elated, Ferrero was deflated. I too, was deflated.

Perish the thought.

Knock on wood....

Your post scared me, Becca..I just had a horrific fantasy: Carlos will choke, Ferrero will retire in injury, Rafael will succumb to hormones, Tommy will forget to shave his moustache and women will boo him....

Andy will not drop serve, Mardy will be touched by God, Bob and Mike will ram chests and win and win and win. In fact, they'll win so often that they'll play six Davis Cup finals because the United States is so damn good on clay.

:eek: :sad:

Deboogle!.
11-29-2004, 05:42 AM
Knock on wood....

Your post scared me, Becca..I just had a horrific fantasy: Carlos will choke, Ferrero will retire in injury, Rafael will succumb to hormones, Tommy will forget to shave his moustache and women will boo him....

Andy will not drop serve, Mardy will be touched by God, Bob and Mike will ram chests and win and win and win. In fact, they'll win so often that they'll play six Davis Cup finals because the United States is so damn good on clay.

:eek: :sad:

:haha: :haha: :haha: I really think that you don't have to worry about this happening

Leena
11-29-2004, 05:49 AM
I played on red clay here in the US.

It's an evil, evil surface. Tennis was not made to be played on it.

Deboogle!.
11-29-2004, 06:13 AM
I played on red clay here in the US.


:eek: :eek: red clay and US in the same sentence? Is that possible? :p

Actually, I had trouble walking on it in Houston.

Well, not really... I was just trying to be funny. I failed :o

WyveN
11-29-2004, 06:17 AM
Red clay is terrific to play on, very fun , watching matches on it is sometimes a different matter though ;)

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 06:25 AM
Red clay is terrific to play on, very fun , watching matches on it is sometimes a different matter though ;)

It's very easy on the body, the sliding aspect is fun and having to use your brain instead of power for the majority of time is another great aspect.

Come on WyveN, I thought you had Bruguera's French Open wins on tape, that was the epitome of exciting tennis, well maybe the 82 French Open final with Wilander and Vilas matched it for throbbing entertainment.

tennischick
11-29-2004, 06:41 AM
I actually had a dream last night that Roddick beat Ferrero on clay in Rome next year. Ferrero still hadn't managed to get back to where he once was, still lingering in the 30s, and Roddick took advantage of his crap play. Ferrero was serving to stay in the match at 5-6 15-30 when he double faulted to hand Roddick double match point. Then he smackd a routine forehand long to end the match. Roddick was elated, Ferrero was deflated. I too, was deflated.

Perish the thought.
is Ferrero playing for DC? (sorry i haven't been following this tourny). if he is and he faces the Duck i actually give the edge to DuckyBoi despite the surface.

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 06:42 AM
is Ferrero playing for DC? (sorry i haven't been following this tourny). if he is and he faces the Duck i actually give the edge to DuckyBoi despite the surface.

He would be playing Duckboy as Ferrero is the #2 player.

WyveN
11-29-2004, 06:43 AM
Come on WyveN, I thought you had Bruguera's French Open wins on tape, that was the epitome of exciting tennis, well maybe the 82 French Open final with Wilander and Vilas matched it for throbbing entertainment.

It took them around 10 minutes to get to 30-15 in the opening game, doesn't get much better then that.
Then again if it was Sampras v Ivanisevic on grass they would already be upto set 3.

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 06:46 AM
It took them around 10 minutes to get to 30-15 in the opening game, doesn't get much better then that.
Then again if it was Sampras v Ivanisevic they would already be upto set 3.

I never realised how beautiful excess topspin with 3m high clearance over the net can be.

True about Sampras/Ivanisevic, though if they played on clay it would be more watchable. Two serve/volleyers playing on clay is actually one of my favourite match ups I remember Stich and Edberg it was fun stuff.

WyveN
11-29-2004, 06:49 AM
I totally agree, Stich had a very unique clay game, seen some tapes of Nastasse on clay and that was fun as well. Something tells me Muster wasn't a fan of serve-volleyers on clay.

Action Jackson
11-29-2004, 06:53 AM
I totally agree, Stich had a very unique clay game, seen some tapes of Nastasse on clay and that was fun as well. Something tells me Muster wasn't a fan of serve-volleyers on clay.

Stich had a great backhand, and was very comfortable with his movement on clay that plus he was a very good volleyer helped him as well. Yes, I have mentioned the fact that Muster hated playing serve/volleyers well he had a 10-0 record against Edberg.

I might have to bump up that older players thread actually.

liptea
11-29-2004, 07:05 AM
I played on red clay here in the US.

It's an evil, evil surface. Tennis was not made to be played on it.

It can't be fair that we play tennis on a surface that we make pots out of. Or that we play tennis on the same surface as grass. Or that we play tennis on similar surfaces to sidewalks.

Sadly, it happens.

bad gambler
11-29-2004, 01:07 PM
i think this thread should be specific to fish - rodduck will definitely win sets and even a match, fish on the other hand has absolutely no chance and i'll be suprised if he wins a set all weekend

WyveN
11-29-2004, 01:20 PM
I thought Spadea was likely to take Fish's spot.

bad gambler
11-29-2004, 01:22 PM
really? well he will put on a better show than mardy for sure

WyveN
11-29-2004, 01:24 PM
Playing Fish against Moya would be stupid. Moya has a very good record on clay against serve volleyers such as Henman, Rafter and Mirnyi - all who are better then Fish.

Chloe le Bopper
11-29-2004, 02:30 PM
is Ferrero playing for DC? (sorry i haven't been following this tourny). if he is and he faces the Duck i actually give the edge to DuckyBoi despite the surface.
He's on the team and will more than likely play on day one. If he's not physically prepared for it they could put Rafael Nadal in instead, but I think they are just trying to be foxy by acting like that is a serious option :p (putting Nadal in on day three against Fish, if need be, would make more sense)

Chloe le Bopper
11-29-2004, 02:31 PM
I thought Spadea was likely to take Fish's spot.
I thought that Pat was was "just kidding" by bringing Vince to Spain. That is, I thought that he only caved and brought him because he was pressured to. Originally he wanted to bring Ginepri :rolleyes:

Leena
11-29-2004, 02:46 PM
I totally agree, Stich had a very unique clay game, seen some tapes of Nastasse on clay and that was fun as well. Something tells me Muster wasn't a fan of serve-volleyers on clay.
Not at all.

S&V really bugged the hell out of him. I remember '96 US Open 1R, when Frana kept coming to net, he was winning all those points.

And for surprisingly fun clay court matches... '96 RG was the year. Especially after the Bruguera/Muster era, which I'm sure some people hated. Stich cheated in the 4R, however.

Horatio Caine
11-29-2004, 02:59 PM
Carlos was Careless - well duh!!!

The Spaniards coated pieces of the latest dead bull in batter instead of the Fish.

Fish was too slippery to catch hold of?

The Duck flew out of reach.

Horatio Caine
11-29-2004, 03:01 PM
It rains? Ideal weather for pond creatures. Not so for mosquitos.

roisin
11-29-2004, 05:30 PM
It's an evil, evil surface. Tennis was not made to be played on it.

tell that to the argentinians and spanish. ;)

so that ferrero v roddick match will be on friday?

Deboogle!.
11-29-2004, 08:33 PM
so that ferrero v roddick match will be on friday?

yes

tangerine_dream
11-29-2004, 11:14 PM
:haha: Neely you :devil: you're brilliant. This is a great thread to come back to after Thanksgiving vacation :worship:

Here's a few good ones bound to be thrown around (and some have been before :) ):

- they're obviously not playing on "real" clay
- the wrong anthem was played, causing Spain to lose their concentration and eventually, the match
- the chair ump is a biased American giving all the bad calls to the Spaniards
- Ferrero isn't 'just' a claycourter so he wasn't able to give them a real test by a real claycourter
- someone, probably a jingoistic American, yelled "out" and it confused Nadal, causing him to lose the match
- if they were playing real clay players like the Argies, they would've lost
- the hawkeyes are all rigged
- pure luck
- Spain isn't really part of Europe; it's an American colony; therefore, Spain is not foreign to them
- that win? doesn't count

Golfnduck
11-30-2004, 12:53 AM
This thread is too funny!!! I'm sooo excited for the matches to start!!! GO USA!!! :worship:

liptea
11-30-2004, 12:54 AM
Someone in the crowd flashed Nadal and his poor hormones exploded.

superpinkone37
11-30-2004, 01:02 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Leena
11-30-2004, 01:04 AM
:eek: :eek: red clay and US in the same sentence? Is that possible? :p

Actually, I had trouble walking on it in Houston.

Well, not really... I was just trying to be funny. I failed :o
There's 1 red clay court in Buffalo. Lots of green clay.

Any clay sucks.

I hate sliding and slowness.

Golfnduck
11-30-2004, 03:34 AM
Clay looks tough. I've only played on hard courts, so I can only imagine what it is like.

Action Jackson
11-30-2004, 03:38 AM
It rains? Ideal weather for pond creatures. Not so for mosquitos.

Unlike Houston, they have a roof, but it was a good excuse nevertheless.

Deboogle!.
11-30-2004, 05:02 AM
There's 1 red clay court in Buffalo.

(preface: I'm sorry, I can't resist)

It's ever warm enough to play outdoors in Buffalo? ;)

Leena
11-30-2004, 05:14 AM
(preface: I'm sorry, I can't resist)

It's ever warm enough to play outdoors in Buffalo? ;)
For around 6-7 months of the year. :)

Chloe le Bopper
11-30-2004, 06:00 AM
The only good thing about Buffalo is that it's close to Canada! ;)

Deboogle!.
11-30-2004, 06:13 AM
For around 6-7 months of the year. :)

I was just teasing :p It's almost at freezing in LA tonight so I don't have a whole lot of room to comment anyway ;)

Fedex
12-02-2004, 02:01 AM
The large arena allowed Roddick to play in his zone, 6 meters (19.69 feet) behind the baseline. ;)
:haha: :haha: :rolls:

Leena
12-02-2004, 02:02 AM
The only good thing about Buffalo is that it's close to Canada! ;)
Canadians are the worst. You ruin all our sporting events with your... Canadian-ness.

Fedex
12-02-2004, 02:06 AM
I totally agree, Stich had a very unique clay game, seen some tapes of Nastasse on clay and that was fun as well. Something tells me Muster wasn't a fan of serve-volleyers on clay.
Nastase had such a beautiful game to watch. :) I wasn't his biggest fan for his antics, though.

Neely
12-02-2004, 01:06 PM
I see the excuses are already lined up... now as the draw was realeased...

....
- they didn't let Ferrero play
- Nadal couldn't handle the big situation
- they made a horrible mistake when selecting Nadal
- the hopes of the whole country were on the kid's shoulders, it was too much for him
....


:) :smoke:

joeb_uk
12-02-2004, 01:27 PM
To be honest, now nadal has been picked. i am almost sure usa will get a set :D but lets hope not a match

TheBoiledEgg
12-02-2004, 01:29 PM
Fetus spat the Dummy ;)

Neely
12-02-2004, 01:34 PM
I would love to see the US team winning a singles match :devil:

would be funny for some future conversations ;)

Experimentee
12-02-2004, 01:53 PM
"P-Mac juiced the whole US team up on steroids" :devil:

tangerine_dream
12-04-2004, 10:04 PM
"P-Mac juiced the whole US team up on steroids" :lol: That reminds me, where's Adcout? ;)

Neely, here's some more good ones I got straight out of the tourney thread :rolls:

- Rafa choked
- Duck got lucky
- Rafa was tired as hell
- Andy was employing gamesmanship to distract Rafa
- if JCF had played Andy, Andy wouldn't have won that set
- Rafa's serve was too weak
- Rafa doesn't have enough big game experience

bad gambler
12-04-2004, 10:15 PM
the claycourt magically turned into a hardcourt/grass court

Neely
12-04-2004, 11:28 PM
- Rafa choked
- Duck got lucky
- Rafa was tired as hell
- Andy was employing gamesmanship to distract Rafa
- if JCF had played Andy, Andy wouldn't have won that set
- Rafa's serve was too weak
- Rafa doesn't have enough big game experience
thanks for that, it's always eye-candy for me to read things like that! :) ;) :smoke:
the "Duck got lucky" is a classic one already :lol: ..."damn, he hit an ace, he got lucky to save that break point" ;) :p
but I liked best the "Rafa was tired as hell" excuse as it is the most pointless to me ;)

_______________________________________

bad gambler, that was funny... :rolls: :p :yeah: the paranormal excuse: "Aliens transformed the claycourt into a grasscourt" :devil:

Neely
12-05-2004, 04:47 PM
damn, time for more excuses ;) :p .....

HOW IN HELL could an entirely pathetic claycourt player like Fish :eek: :eek: who didn't win a match on clay the whole season long win a match against Robredo, a player who won one of the most important claycourt events this season, the tournament in Barcelona?????? :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused:
Also Robredo has beaten the French Open Champion Gaudio in this final, so Robredo certainly showed he is no mug on clay. Unbelievable how this could happen that he lost this match against Fish!! :eek: :p

okay, take one of the following excuses now to explain this HORRIBLE loss...

- Tommy had his head somewhere else, but not in this match
- this match didn't matter anyway, Robredo didn't won to win and make it 4-1 for Spain, he thought 3-2 is a better looking score
- it must be hard to stay concentrated if you know that a dream has come true already after 4th match
- he intentionally lost the first two sets because he wanted to humiliate Fish and redeem himself when making a big comeback from 0-2 sets down; Robredo thought that this match was best of five and was surprised that the chair umpire already said "juego, set y partido, Estados Unidos!" after he lost the 2nd set
- Robredo would never get blown away if it mattered
- we all know Robredo is normally just too good for Fish on clay
- Tommy is not interested in this match
- ...

:rolls: :haha:

;) :angel:

WyveN
12-05-2004, 05:09 PM
Robredo lost because the golden rule for Robredo is not to win a set whenever the opposition involves Roddick in any way, shape or form.

WyveN
12-05-2004, 05:19 PM
Fish bribed Robredo to lose this match so that Fish can point out this match next time Pat Mac even thinks about including rapper vinny. This win alone will keep Fish in the DC team for the rest of his career and Fish can resume his 2nd round losses without a care in the world.

Pea
12-05-2004, 09:07 PM
What's the point of winning that match? Robredo was too ecstatic about winning DC already.

darnyelb
12-05-2004, 09:15 PM
Robredo lost because the golden rule for Robredo is not to win a set whenever the opposition involves Roddick in any way, shape or form.

Bahahahahaha! This is so true. :haha:

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2004, 05:47 AM
What's the point of winning that match? Robredo was too ecstatic about winning DC already.
It's not supposed to make sense, let them have their fun.

Leena
12-06-2004, 05:50 AM
I respect Mardy very much for winning that match. He showed such pride and spirit for the STARS AND STRIPES by winning that match. He never gave up, and fought until the end.

Also, many kudos to the Bryans, and Andy Roddick for showing he's more than a one-dimensional player, and his continued fighting even though the odds were stacked against him. :)

Action Jackson
12-06-2004, 05:50 AM
Fish bribed Robredo to lose this match so that Fish can point out this match next time Pat Mac even thinks about including rapper vinny. This win alone will keep Fish in the DC team for the rest of his career and Fish can resume his 2nd round losses without a care in the world.

Fish can live off this result for the rest of his life.

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2004, 05:54 AM
Yes, congrats to Andy for doing what just about any other top player in his position would have done (ie: Ferrero in Australia last year) ;)

Leena
12-06-2004, 05:55 AM
Yes, congrats to Andy for doing what just about any other top player in his position would have done (ie: Ferrero in Australia last year) ;)
What about where Ferrero was for the latest Fed Cup tie? ;)

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2004, 06:06 AM
What about where Ferrero was for the latest Fed Cup tie? ;)
He was losing badly with Robredo in doubles, but they MATCHED and looked adorable :hearts:

bad gambler
12-06-2004, 09:39 AM
it was a dead rubber

oh hang on a sec, that excuse was actually used!

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2004, 09:52 AM
Some excuses are more legitimate than others.

oxy
12-06-2004, 10:09 AM
Tommy was a little drunk after some champange.

tennischick
12-07-2004, 01:15 AM
i agree. Tommy celebrated a tad too much after Carles the Matador cut off the Duck's ears :tape: