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ImmzB
01-22-2013, 05:48 PM
Richard's Davis Cup matches!

ImmzB
01-22-2013, 05:58 PM
Richard, Tsonga, Benneteau & Llodra have been selected for the 1st round tie against Israel which starts next week.

Tsonga and Gasquet for the singles........ Benneteau and Llodra for the doubles.

Allez Richard and France!! :)

Nena
01-23-2013, 07:01 PM
Allez Richard! :cheerleader:

ImmzB
02-01-2013, 04:08 PM
Richard beat Sela 6/3 6/2 6/2 to put France 2-0 up against Israel. This was before Tsonga won the 1st rubber. Allez!!


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Puschkin
02-01-2013, 06:03 PM
Look at this, Guy Forget! :p
Richard can well play in DC with the right guy on the bench.

afterglows
02-01-2013, 06:16 PM
Nice win!

When he wins for his country it really seems to lead to a good boost for his confidence.

ImmzB
02-01-2013, 08:35 PM
Look at this, Guy Forget! :p
Richard can well play in DC with the right guy on the bench.

Yeah, Richard looked really happy after the win and then congratulating with Clement!! Allez!!


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Puschkin
02-03-2013, 02:09 PM
I did not see much of the dead rubber, my stream collasped too often to get an idea about the match, but always nice to win. Good weekend for Richard.

ImmzB
02-03-2013, 02:21 PM
Why can't Richard play like this on the ATP circuit more often!! Letting loose on both BH and FH. You could tell he had no pressure on him, just playing his game!! Great 3 day for Richard and France!! Allez!!


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afterglows
02-03-2013, 02:40 PM
You could tell he had no pressure on him

He still lost his service game in the beginning of the match vs Weintraub, like he lost his first service game against Sela.

Am I into a false impression due to the fact that Richard is my favorite player and that I follow his result more than the other players results, but I feel that Richard is always tight in the beginning of a match and that it's kind of unusual to regulary lose his serve early in the matches or in the sets like that.

It's ok against players like Weintraub or Sela, it's even ok against an 31 years old and tired Davydenko, but vs the top 10, if he doesn't learn to be clutch from the first point, he will just give himself an unnecessary handicap.

ImmzB
04-01-2013, 05:38 PM
Richard has arrived in Buenos Aires!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.178338105649232.1073741829.119142924902084&type=1

ImmzB
04-04-2013, 01:57 PM
Richard withdraws.

It's a good decision for the long run that Gasquet isn't playing. He needs to rest the ankle and the season is only 1/3 completed. Also changing surface to the Clay may have been too much for the ankle at this short time. I remember in 2011 when he played the dead rubber against Verdasco and did more damage to his injury. Allez France!!


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Puschkin
04-04-2013, 02:16 PM
Richard withdraws.

It's a good decision for the long run that Gasquet isn't playing. He needs to rest the ankle and the season is only 1/3 completed. Also changing surface to the Clay may have been too much for the ankle at this short time. I remember in 2011 when he played the dead rubber against Verdasco and did more damage to his injury.

Exactly, I still can't forgive Forget for this, it cost him the rest of the season. There is no need to aggravate things. I have predicted it this morning on the Simon-thread already, it was suspicious that Richard hardly practised in Buenos Aires, even if all practises were impeded by the rain, he was on court much less than the other guys. Get well, Richard for Monte Carlo, I am looking forward to meeting you there. ;)

afterglows
04-04-2013, 07:30 PM
Yes, it is the right decision.

It's too bad because playing and winning for his country somehow seems to give Richard extra confidence. See how it was good for him to win the bronze in London.
But anyway, it's really important to not make the injury worst. Plus Richie has already played 26 match this year, so it's definitely better to rest.

Get well, Richard for Monte Carlo, I am looking forward to meeting you there. ;)

I'm gonna attend to the MC tournement for the first time this year. Can't wait. :woohoo:
I'm praying that Richie will reach R16 there. About that, is Del Potro's WC gonna cost Richard the 8th seed since he is number 8 on the entry list ? Or does the current ranking will determine the seeds, therefore Richard will be above Janko ?

T.C
04-04-2013, 09:55 PM
I believe Monte Carlo is using current ranking for seeding so if Federer is the only top 10 missing, then Richard, being #9, will be seeded 8.

I think Forget really f'ed up Richard (and Gilles) with his Davis Cup decisions. He struck me as a bully.




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Puschkin
04-05-2013, 09:45 AM
I think Forget really f'ed up Richard (and Gilles) with his Davis Cup decisions. He struck me as a bully.

oh yes, both of them. Forget sent Richard into tough DC-battles at a very young age and always expected him to deliver, he forced him into a role of "leader" which is just not Richard's personality. Besides, he also expected a type of game, more close to his own, when he was in his prime and which is not adequate anymore. And with Simon he did exactly the same, not to mention Forgets's great decision to send Llodra against Troicki an a medium hard court and his exaggerated emphasis on the doubles. I am really happy that he is gone.

ImmzB
04-05-2013, 05:37 PM
Argentina 0-1 France

I didn't see much of the match, was Richard cheering on the team?

Puschkin
04-06-2013, 08:21 AM
I didn't see much of the match, was Richard cheering on the team?
I did not watch the matches, but apparently Richard stayed on.

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/gallery/im:urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,%20lego:19780928:top,%2 0photo,%20769cbebf-9438-346c-b0cb-7f3920ea39d3-l:1

DBR
09-18-2013, 11:08 AM
R1 2014, 31st Jan - 2nd Feb.

France (at home) v Australia - interesting draw! If France get through that, they play Spain or Germany in the QF.

ImmzB
09-19-2013, 10:16 PM
R1 2014, 31st Jan - 2nd Feb.

France (at home) v Australia - interesting draw! If France get through that, they play Spain or Germany in the QF.

Japan or Canada in the QF if they win in R1. Spain or Germany potentially in the SF.

That's a good draw for France!!

ALLEZ!!


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DBR
09-19-2013, 10:25 PM
Japan or Canada in the QF if they win in R1. Spain or Germany potentially in the SF.

That's a good draw for France!!

ALLEZ!!



Weird - it's showing on the Davis Cup website as Spain or Germany in the quarters. Not sure why.

http://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/world-group.aspx

It's great for France they're at home for R1. Australia will be tough.

ImmzB
09-20-2013, 02:46 PM
So it is then potentially Germany or Spain in the QF. That will be a home match for France.

ImmzB
01-20-2014, 10:55 AM
The team is announced tomorrow..... Any rumours if Richard will be part of it?

DBR
01-20-2014, 12:30 PM
The team is announced tomorrow..... Any rumours if Richard will be part of it?

I don't know, but you just gave me huge shock as the 1st post of this thread said that Richard, Jo, Benneteau and Llodra had been selected - it took me a moment to realise that that was against Israel! :lol: PHEW!

Jo going out today suggests to me he'll definitely be included (unless there's some injury problem we don't know about.) I was worried he might skip DC if he had a really deep run at AO.

I don't think Gilles will be asked to play - he's injured and really took the brunt in Argentina.

If I was Clement, (and if Gael is still fit...) I'd probably choose Gael over Richard - for his big personality to face the cocky Aussies, and because (apart from his Nadal match - when Nadal was immense) he's shown really great form so far this year.

Puschkin
01-20-2014, 01:26 PM
My choice: Richard, Gael, Tsonga and Benneteau , this allows for all kind of doubles combinations and surprises on the last day, if there is need. In fact, anyone, but Llodra, he can only play doubles, he is hopeless on clay. And for once, I want the Franech to win three singles matches and not put up a team around the doubles.

DBR
01-20-2014, 08:53 PM
My choice: Richard, Gael, Tsonga and Benneteau , this allows for all kind of doubles combinations and surprises on the last day, if there is need. In fact, anyone, but Llodra, he can only play doubles, he is hopeless on clay. And for once, I want the Franech to win three singles matches and not put up a team around the doubles.

Good thoughts, Puschkin... and accurate - this from FFT on twitter just now:

FFT ‏@FFTennis 5 mins
#Daviscup joueurs sélectionnés pour #FraAus : @julienbenneteau, @richardgasquet1, @Gael_Monfils, @Tsonga7 et #Simon. #TeamFranceTennis

FFT @ FFTennis 5 mins
# # Daviscup players selected for #FraAus: @julienbenneteau, @richardgasquet1, @Gael_Monfils, @Tsonga7 and #Simon. #TeamFranceTennis

Puschkin
01-21-2014, 05:25 AM
Good thoughts, Puschkin... and accurate - this from FFT on twitter just now:

Finally, a French DC captain grasped that winning the doubles is useless if you don't win
enough singles. If you go for a doubles pair not capable winning a singles match and you have a problem with one of your singles player, you are in deep shit. This is what Forget never understood.

With this selection, Clément has a number of options - both for the doubles and the singles on Sunday, it is exactly the team I would have picked today for clay. And the prep week will show who is in the best form. Well done, Arnaud. :yeah:

However, if you look at the majority of the comments on l'Equipe, you have ample proof, that the majority has no clue, wanting a doubles Llodra/Mahut. Just imagine Llodra in a decisive match on Sunday on clay. :rolleyes:

DBR
01-21-2014, 08:40 AM
I would choose Jo + Gael in the Friday singles and Richard/ Benny in the doubles.

As well as the other reasons for Clement leaving out Llodra, he and Mahut are still in the doubles in Australia.

Not a surprise, but Australia announced their team as: Hewitt, Kyrgios, Kokkinakis, Jordan Thompson and the doubles guy, Chris Guccione.

DBR
01-22-2014, 02:15 PM
Thanks to soulage's post over on the Davis Cup thread, we know a little more... :)

http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/Actualites/Clement-pas-pris-de-risque/434023

Clement says that with this selection he has three options for doubles Jo-Bennet; Jo-Richard and Bennet-Richard. He says Gilles is the fifth and can enter the team if there are injuries problems during the preparation. He thinks Gael can play on friday or on sunday. The week of preparation will be important to decide who will play the friday.

DBR
01-28-2014, 09:19 PM
Article with quotes from Richard over on the Davis Cup website...

http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/167104.aspx

Allez France!!! :)

ImmzB
01-29-2014, 02:00 AM
So will Richard play singles on Friday?

I'm hoping he does even more as Eurosport are broadcasting the tie live on TV.

I think Monfils will defiantly play the singles, Jo and Richard are better doubles player than him and can't see Gael playing the doubles, so that leaves them 2 for the last place. I hope Richard gets picked, it would show good faith from Clement!! Then again, we all want France through to the QF come Sunday!

Allez France!!

Pratik
01-29-2014, 09:03 AM
I just realised that Spain is playing without both Nadal and Ferrer. Germany has a good chance to beat Spain, which would be great for France.

DBR
01-29-2014, 04:17 PM
I just realised that Spain is playing without both Nadal and Ferrer. Germany has a good chance to beat Spain, which would be great for France.

That's a very good point. I hadn't realised Ferrer wasn't there either.

Federer is now playing with Stan (or maybe instead of Stan) against Serbia!!! (Nole is not playing.)

http://au.eurosport.com/tennis/tennis-federer-to-join-wawrinka-in-swiss-davis-cup-quest_sto4113845/story.shtml

Switzerland's half is a lot weaker than France's - they could very well make the final

T.C
01-29-2014, 05:30 PM
Davis Cup is going to be interesting with Fed playing for Switzerland and Spain and Serbia posting significantly weaker line-ups; as wel, Argentina hurt by Nalbandian's retirement and Del Potro still not playing (afaik).

Pratik
01-29-2014, 05:33 PM
^^ It seems that both Haas and Kohli are of questionable health. The odds reflect the same. Spain are sceond favourites to win DC 2014(after Switzerland's odds just plummeted after the Federer news). France is 3rd ahead of Czech.

DBR
01-30-2014, 10:52 AM
Richard will play 1st against Kyrgios - bit surprised at Gael in the doubles though.

Davis Cup ‏@DavisCup 2 mins
FRA v AUS draw: Gasquet v Kyrgios, Tsonga v Hewitt; Benneteau/Monfils v Guccione/Hewitt; Gasquet v Hewitt, Tsonga v Kyrgios

Puschkin
01-30-2014, 11:26 AM
Richard will play 1st against Kyrgios - bit surprised at Gael in the doubles though.


I think we will see another doubles combination on Saturday. Too bad that Richard is the first match, I won't be able to watch, too early in the day for me being at home. :mad:

DBR
01-30-2014, 02:17 PM
Article from L'Equipe with quotes from Jo and Richard. Both are expecting very tough matches and both are prepared to play 3 days, if needed. Jo talks about how they all talked and agreed they will do everything they can and make sacrifices to try to win the Davis Cup. Richard is very complimentary about Kyrgios - saying he's big, has a big serve and forehand, and that he has a bright future as he's one of the most talented players coming through. Richard says it's up to him to win the 1st point for the team.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/Actualites/Tsonga-solidaires/436582

Allez France!!!!

Pratik
01-31-2014, 12:26 PM
Kyrgios really going for his shots and it's working for him. TB was much closer than the score suggests. Richard lost a mini with a bad FH UE. He played well in the TB after that. Got it back the very next point when Kyrgios hits a BH long trying to go for a winner. BH DTL winner to get the mini. 2 good FH's from Richie in next 2 points to set up 3 SP.

kmaria28
01-31-2014, 01:53 PM
:wavey:
Great win, excellent performance from Richard .
He is in very good form, so I'm very happy.

Congrats Richard, it will be interesting, who will be playing in doubles ? :worship::worship::worship:

T.C
01-31-2014, 01:53 PM
First point for France!

Anyone have a replay?

DBR
01-31-2014, 01:56 PM
Kyrgios really going for his shots and it's working for him. TB was much closer than the score suggests. Richard lost a mini with a bad FH UE. He played well in the TB after that. Got it back the very next point when Kyrgios hits a BH long trying to go for a winner. FH DTL winner to get the mini. 2 good FH's from Richie in next 2 points to set up 3 SP.

Yep - really impressed with Richard in that tie break after the mini break. Fantastic BH DTL winner also. Kyrgios hit a super lob early in it too - he's got touch and feel as well as aggressive power.

But Richard was really in control today, 7-6, 6-2, 6-2 in 2 hours. Very happy with that. Question marks over Kyrgios's fitness - he had a medical time out for his elbow/ wrist early in the 3rd set. But Richard was just too good and Kyrgios made 41 unforced errors. Particularly happy to see how easily/ well Richard held serve today - I think only facing 1 BP all match and having many service holds to love.

68% 1st serve in, won 94% of those, 10A / 1DF, 4 FH W: 17 BH W, 7/8 net points won, 4/7 BP won, 21 UE.

Very solid stats and a good win today with lots at stake. Kyrgios is a tricky opponent with a big game who keeps going for his shots. Great performance from Richard, winning that all important 1st point. :banana:

Allez!!!!

Puschkin
01-31-2014, 03:19 PM
Good stats for Richard. Please post every possible video, as I could not see anything!

Pratik
01-31-2014, 04:03 PM
Yep - really impressed with Richard in that tie break after the mini break. Fantastic BH DTL winner also. Kyrgios hit a super lob early in it too - he's got touch and feel as well as aggressive power.

But Richard was really in control today, 7-6, 6-2, 6-2 in 2 hours. Very happy with that. Question marks over Kyrgios's fitness - he had a medical time out for his elbow/ wrist early in the 3rd set. But Richard was just too good and Kyrgios made 41 unforced errors. Particularly happy to see how easily/ well Richard held serve today - I think only facing 1 BP all match and having many service holds to love.

68% 1st serve in, won 94% of those, 10A / 1DF, 4 FH W: 17 BH W, 7/8 net points won, 4/7 BP won, 21 UE.

Very solid stats and a good win today with lots at stake. Kyrgios is a tricky opponent with a big game who keeps going for his shots. Great performance from Richard, winning that all important 1st point. :banana:

Allez!!!!

Yes, of course, it was a BH DTL. Edited. That was a brilliant lob. It was Hewittesque. Don't know where these Australians learn how to lob. I thought that that may have discouraged Richard as right after it he dumped an easy FH into into the net. Didn't watch after set 1. Kyrgios was clearly going for his shots in the first. If he had kept it up, he would have had a big chance to at least win a set. Maybe he thought he needed to do more(which he didn't), which is what caused the extra UE's. Or did Richard's level increase in sets 2 and 3?

DBR
01-31-2014, 07:13 PM
Yes, of course, it was a BH DTL. Edited. That was a brilliant lob. It was Hewittesque. Don't know where these Australians learn how to lob. I thought that that may have discouraged Richard as right after it he dumped an easy FH into into the net. Didn't watch after set 1. Kyrgios was clearly going for his shots in the first. If he had kept it up, he would have had a big chance to at least win a set. Maybe he thought he needed to do more(which he didn't), which is what caused the extra UE's. Or did Richard's level increase in sets 2 and 3?

I think it was a mixture of things. Winning the 1st set helped Richard relax and losing such a tight 47 minute set put Kyrgios under extra pressure. In the 2nd set, Kyrgios faced a BP in both his 1st 2 service games (he saved them) while Richard held both of his to love, so that pressure kept building. Kyrgios goes for everything so he's prone to making errors, and a loose game gave Richard a break for 3-2.(although Richard also played a fantastic point to get to 30-40, his backhands really doing damage.) Kyrgios looked a bit tired/ flat when he was broken.

Richard was then 40-0 up in the 6th game, but netted, hit a DF and Kyrgios hit a winner to get back to deuce. Richard held comfortably for 4-2 though. In the 7th game, Kyrgios was 30-0 up, then Richard played really well, hit a great BH passing shot (30-15), defended really well and forced an error (30-30), then hit aggressively to force 2 more errors for BP and game(5-2). Serving for it, Richard played a couple of loose backhands, and played a backhand dropshot attempt at a bad moment, and faced his first (and I think only) BP of the match at 30-40. But there was a UE from Kyrgios, a Richard ace, and another Kyrgios UE, so Richard won the set, 6-2.

In the 1st game of the 3rd set (Kyrgios serving) Richard hit a nice FH winner, but the rest of the break was all because of errors from Kyrgios. Richard held for 2-0 (he held to 15) and Kyrgios had a medical time-out at 2-1. The next game shows just how much progress Richard has made with his focus/ mental game, because he was left sitting for quite a few minutes while Kyrgios had treatment on his elbow/ wrist. But Richard then came straight out and held to love, serving 2 aces in this game for 3-1. (Kyrgios still seemed to be whacking everything really hard despite his injury) The next 2 games went with serve, with Kyrgios saving a BP against him with an ace. In the 7th game (4-2, Kyrgios serving) Richard played a great return and backhand winner (0-15) then hit a superb BH DTL winner (0-30). Kyrgios hit 2 forehands out and was broken. (5-2)

Serving for the match, Richard was 40-0 up (an ace, a BH DTL winner, and a Kyrgios error) but then played a loose BH (40-15) and a (wide) drop shot attempt at a bad moment (40-30). Kyrgios hit long in their next rally and it was GSM.

Richard was aggressive today, but he also defended really well too. Several times I wondered how he'd won a point after Kyrgios was hitting big in rallies, and there were signs early on in the 2nd set that Kyrgios was frustrated by that.

One thing I've noticed on Richard's forehand – he's started scooping out deep balls hit to his forehand side (DTL balls that are almost behind him) and is hitting them back very deep cross-court – literally turning a defensive shot into a very attacking move. I've seen him do it in a couple of matches recently and it's really effective. A few times today, Kyrgios just couldn't get across court quick enough to make a decent shot of it (and he's pretty quick for a big guy). Even though there weren't that many outright forehand winners from Richard in this match, his forehand did a lot of damage – setting up points and forcing errors.

It was annoying that I couldn't see Richard's serve speeds today, because I think they may have also improved. Great that he was holding serve so well again though, as the back injury had made that a real problem recently.

Jo played very well in his match against Hewitt too. Great start from France to be 2-0 up. :cheerleader:

By the way, Gael had a bandage on his right hand today. I don't think he will play doubles.
http://www.tennismagazine.fr/tennisMag_images/articles/multimedia/main-monfils.jpg

I wouldn't be surprised to see Richard play with Benny tomorrow, but then I just read a quote which said Tsonga also really wants to play. A nice problem for Clement to have!

Sorry Puschkin, the only highlights I've seen so far are shockingly bad. Very low quality and they somehow don't include the 2 best shots of the TB. :confused: I'm waiting until something at least a little better appears before I post it... hopefully soon.

DBR
02-01-2014, 09:11 AM
Wow - this article says Tsonga-Gasquet are playing the doubles today. Bold move from Clement if it's correct. France sending a message...

http://www.tennisactu.net/news-coupe-davis-tsonga-gasquet-pour-le-double-24725.html

Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard 4m
Tsonga et Gasquet en ce moment au training ensemble sur le central. #CoupeDavis

Carole Bouchard @ carole_bouchard 4 mins
Tsonga and Gasquet currently in training together on centre court. #CoupeDavis

EDIT:

NicoSport24 ‏@NicoSport24 (Journalist for Le Figaro) 2 mins
Alors que #Gasquet semble bien concentré, #Tsonga donne l'impression de jouer le sparring-partner de luxe. #DavisCup.

NicoSport24 @ NicoSport24 2 mins
While #Gasquet seems concentrated, #Tsonga gives the impression of being a luxury sparring partner. #DavisCup.

Court 2 is closed to the press so no-one knows which other French players (if any) are warming up. The doubles team will be announced at 13.00 French time, one hour before the match.

DBR
02-01-2014, 10:54 AM
Ok, Tsonga-Gasquet really seems to be happening... Allez!!!

http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/info/570937/gasquet-tsonga-alignes-double/

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 12:00 PM
It might be odd to say it with hindsight, but after the way things went yesterday, I am not surprised about this selection, but played well, seem confident and and in fact they complement each other well.

silverwhite
02-01-2014, 01:31 PM
Disappointing net play from him so far

silverwhite
02-01-2014, 03:20 PM
Fantastic play from the baseline in the second half of the match

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 03:24 PM
Fantastic play from the baseline in the second half of the match
It was much more than that. Richard carried Tsonga through his hole in the second set and was always solid, in the forth set he was outright brilliant. :worship:

T.C
02-01-2014, 03:25 PM
My stream was terrible and I eventually gave up, but I did see one point at the end of the second when Jo had to crouch down at the net as Richard hit a backhand then a spectacular swinging forehand volley. From reading the few Davis Cup live blog entries, it seems Gasquet was the one firing up the team specially in the first and second sets.

Edit: Last year all the rubbers were available on replay online. Would anyone have a link?

DBR
02-01-2014, 03:28 PM
Well that was a little stressful to say the least. But they showed a lot of fight and determination to come through it, albeit with some rough patches.

The win will give them a boost. Now let someone else play singles!

5-7, 7-6, 6-2, 7-5 :cheerleader:

Great to get that 4th set won... they had so many break points and chances, I was worried it might come back to haunt them.

:topic: Canal + have no class - they cut off the celebrations (just as Richard and Jo ran to the team on the sidelines) so that they could go back to the studio and link to handball.:mad:

By the way, Carole Bouchard mentioned that other journalists saw Benny wincing during his warm-up, so an injury may have had an effect on today's line-up... although you could tell both Jo and Richard really wanted to play after their matches yesterday.

And Germany beat Spain 3-0 too. Next opponents.

Allez France!!!!

Pratik
02-01-2014, 03:29 PM
Result aside, playing Jo and Richard was just plain stupid.

Pratik
02-01-2014, 03:32 PM
France vs Germany in France.

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 03:35 PM
Result aside, playing Jo and Richard was just plain stupid.
No, it wasn't. Already in theory they are a good combo, complementing each other. It was just Forget's love for Llodra who prevented them to Play together earlier.

It was a necessary experiment to give them confidence in each other which they hardly ever experienced together in Davis Cup.(The Czech Republic won DC twice with two players).

It is no secret that I dislike Tsonga but he was really nice about Richard in the post match interview. When asked about the match, he said it was important to stay focused AND RICHARD DID THE REST.

DBR
02-01-2014, 03:41 PM
It was much more than that. Richard carried Tsonga through his hole in the second set and was always solid, in the forth set he was outright brilliant. :worship:

That's a fair comment. It was like Jo forgot how to play for a while. He got very down. But he/ they came back strongly to win that 2nd set TB, after being 5-2 down (in games).

DBR
02-01-2014, 03:45 PM
Result aside, playing Jo and Richard was just plain stupid.

There's a theory Benny might be injured, which may have affected the choice... (from journo friends of Carole Bouchard - he was seen wincing during warm-up)

Besides, Richard and Jo were both energised after yesterday. They really wanted to play. Tough for Clement to ignore that.

It is no secret that I dislike Tsonga but he was really nice about Richard in the post match interview. When asked about the match, he said it was important to stay focused AND RICHARD DID THE REST.

Oh, I didn't see that. Did Richard say anything of interest?

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 03:56 PM
Did Richard say anything of interest?
Honestly, I don't remember,:o I was more into watching his face and body language, and he just looked very pleased and genuinely happy.

Pratik
02-01-2014, 04:06 PM
No, it wasn't. Already in theory they are a good combo, complementing each other. It was just Forget's love for Llodra who prevented them to Play together earlier.

It was a necessary experiment to give them confidence in each other which they hardly ever experienced together in Davis Cup.(The Czech Republic won DC twice with two players).

The Czech had an established doubles player in that team of two. Plus, they needed a two player team because their third best player was a flaky Rosol.

Trying to win with two players when you don't need to is basically showing off.
To be honest, I've never quite understood what you have against a two singles, two doubles players team like Jo, Richard, Llodra, Mahut. L/M would be a better double team than J/R on absolutely any surface. But lets put that aside for now since Clement agrees with you. I don't see Clement ever going for a team of 4 singles players: Jo, Richard, Simon, Monfils. One of the established doubles players will always be there. Why not make use of him? With the current team, Benneteau/Richard should have been the first choice with Benneteau/Jo the second. There is absolutely no need to give the pairing of Richard/Jo confidence because there is no need for them to be the doubles pairing.

The only way this decision makes any sense to me is if Benneteau was injured as DBR indicates.

DBR
02-01-2014, 04:20 PM
Well, they played together for whatever reasons but the important thing is that they got through it, got the win, and won the tie 3-0. I think the last couple of matches have really helped Richard sharpen up and I'm certain they'll give him a lot of confidence. I even saw him serve at 211kph! I thought I saw him serve (a fault) at 237kph, but I think that must have been the poor quality of my stream! Pretty sure he's never served that fast in his life...

I was never very keen on Richard playing DC as the season is so long and hard already, but I'm really glad he's played both of these matches. Two very good performances from him, which will hopefully give him a lot of confidence for Montpellier. I really hope France have someone else in the team who's fit enough for singles now though.

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 04:30 PM
L/M would be a better double team than J/R on absolutely any surface.

Llodra/Mahut on clay? :eek: Didnt the French(Llodra/Benneteau) lose all their last doubles on clay?
2011 against Austria
2012 against the US
2013 against Argentina

I was never very keen on Richard playing DC as the season is so long and hard already.
me neither, but he has put his heart into it, and if proof was needed, one could see it today.

Pratik
02-01-2014, 04:41 PM
Llodra/Mahut on clay? :eek: Didnt the French(Llodra/Benneteau) lose all their last doubles on clay?
2011 against Austria
2012 against the US
2013 against Argentina

2011 and 2012 were against great doubles teams. Last years one was a terrible loss :o
Incidentally, Llodra/Mahut were a few points away from wining the last grand slam on clay. ;)
I still stand the statement of mine you quoted.

silverwhite
02-01-2014, 04:44 PM
It was much more than that. Richard carried Tsonga through his hole in the second set and was always solid, in the forth set he was outright brilliant. :worship:

IMO, Richard was solid in the first two sets but really shone in the last two. Jo was awful at the start of the second set but played a string of inspired points to get the break back (although Richard won the crucial first point in that game by getting back a smash) ;)

There's a theory Benny might be injured, which may have affected the choice... (from journo friends of Carole Bouchard - he was seen wincing during warm-up)

Besides, Richard and Jo were both energised after yesterday. They really wanted to play. Tough for Clement to ignore that.



Oh, I didn't see that. Did Richard say anything of interest?

He seemed more businesslike than happy, and even seemed focused on the next tie already. I think he badly wants to win DC :lol:

Puschkin
02-01-2014, 04:52 PM
2011 and 2012 were against great doubles teams.
So, Austria was a great doubles team? ;)

I still stand the statement of mine you quoted.
No problem, let's agree to disagree. :)
My point has always been that France should not build a team around the doubles, as Forget did it for 10 years. There are 4 points to win in singles and 1 in doubles.

silverwhite
02-01-2014, 05:15 PM
According to Carole Bouchard, Monfils would have played against Hewitt if they had lost the doubles :lol:

Pratik
02-01-2014, 05:54 PM
So, Austria was a great doubles team? ;)


No problem, let's agree to disagree. :)
My point has always been that France should not build a team around the doubles, as Forget did it for 10 years. There are 4 points to win in singles and 1 in doubles.

Yes, Austria was. Both players had made the previous WTF, though with different partners, and one of them made the next one too. I'd say that makes for a great doubles team.

Okay.

Two strong singles players play 4 singles matches. Add to that one strong doubles team to make a great DC team. You still have two strong singles players, so i don't see how it qualifies as building a team around doubles. Having three strong singles players doesn't serve any purpose. It only helps if one of the other 2 get injured. So, it helps in some extreme cases for a maximum of one match. Where as the doubles match is always a benefit.

T.C
02-01-2014, 07:10 PM
I'll wade into the debate as I agree with Pratik; I don't think it is a good idea to play Richard & Jo in doubles in general. It worked out in this instance, but I think France has enough really excellent players that it's a mistake to rely only on two players. Using more people spreads the pressure around (even when the top two are willing to take it on), players are less fatigued (with a long season, matches add up), and it fosters more team spirit.

So, Austria was a great doubles team? ;)


No problem, let's agree to disagree. :)
My point has always been that France should not build a team around the doubles, as Forget did it for 10 years. There are 4 points to win in singles and 1 in doubles.

I don't think it's a mistake to have an established doubles team in the DC line-up because very often the doubles gets that crucial second point. Forget's mistake is not having enough confidence in his singles players. It showed in how he treated them and used them (or not as the case may be - i.e. not using Simon and going with Llodra) and it was the reason he couldn't get 100% out of all his players.

Two strong singles players play 4 singles matches. Add to that one strong doubles team to make a great DC team. You still have two strong singles players, so i don't see how it qualifies as building a team around doubles. Having three strong singles players doesn't serve any purpose. It only helps if one of the other 2 get injured. So, it helps in some extreme cases for a maximum of one match. Where as the doubles match is always a benefit.

Ideally a team would have 3 singles players and a doubles team (the third singles subbing in as needed).

DBR
02-01-2014, 08:34 PM
I think there were a lot of factors behind the choice of Jo/ Richard. I don't think it necessarily means Clement will always approach DC like the Czech's do, trying to win with just 2 players.

It's worth remembering Llodra and Mahut were still in the doubles in Australia when Clement named his team. It wasn't inconceivable they could reach the final or even win the thing, which would have caused a lot of problems for DC. Llodra had also suffered so badly after his singles loss (heat exhaustion) that he'd been excused press duties so he could receive medical treatment. So Clement may not have been sure Llodra would be 100% ready physically, after his doubles matches and the long trip home.

It sounds like Benny may have an injury and 5 sets is very tough to do if you're hurt. And Benny lost his last 3 DC doubles matches on clay. Richard and Jo had both played on this court yesterday, so were more familiar with the conditions. And they were both on highs from winning their singles matches too. From some of Tsonga's quotes it's clear this team has sat down together and talked honestly about individuals taking responsibility. When asked about playing singles, Gael repeatedly said, these guys (Jo and Richard) are ranked much higher than him, and didn't feel he'd earned his rank to play. What he was really saying is that, they're ranked much higher than him so it's their job to step up and take responsibility. I think that's partly what happened today. The no. 1 and 2 ranked singles players decided they wanted to play together to try to win for the team.

It worked in this case. Maybe wouldn't have every time. But I don't think they've lost anything by trying it. If Jo and Richard are forced to play DC doubles together again, for injury reasons or whatever, they now have this strong experience. (It was nearly 3 years since they last played doubles together before today.) And they've shown the whole team – and the French public – that they're 100% committed to this DC campaign. That may also spur Llodra etc on to try and win their places back.

But, you know, in all this doubles chat, we're really forgetting what's most important here. Richard played 2 great matches this weekend – he returned really well, is serving over 200kph again, his backhand's on fire, and he's playing with lots and lots of confidence. It really seems like he's gotten over his injury and I'm sure he now feels that he's put the ghost of Argentina behind him.

I couldn't have asked for more from this weekend. I think Richard will now be in a perfect state of mind to meet up with Sergi in Montpellier, and hopefully build on this momentum. :)

ImmzB
02-02-2014, 02:27 AM
Allez France!!

Richard played great and hit some tremendous shots!! Great for France to be in the QF, home tie against Germany. Germany have some good players.

Regarding the Benneteau issue, if he was fully fit he should have played as hes the doubles player in the team. I could have seen Clement changing Monfils as Jo and Richard are better doubles player than him.

I like the Richard and Jo partnership.... Jo with the massive FH and Richard with the massive BH when he unleashes!!!

Great 2 days for Richard, he must be feeling great and really hope he takes this confidence into Montpellier!!

ImmzB
02-02-2014, 02:29 AM
PLEASE: Richard I ask you to play aggressive from game 1 in Montpellier!! You have shown in Davis Cup this tie and before you can do it!! Allez!!

soulage
02-02-2014, 07:37 AM
I was there yesterday and He made my day with his backands and his game in the second part of the match. I was happy to see him in doubles :p. The surface was ideal for him not so fast witch gives him a bit of time to play. Gael spend all the match in the lockers rooms. No doubt about the fact it's him who would have against Hewitt today in case of loss.

Puschkin
02-02-2014, 08:05 AM
It worked in this case. Maybe wouldn't have every time. But I don't think they've lost anything by trying it. If Jo and Richard are forced to play DC doubles together again, for injury reasons or whatever, they now have this strong experience. (It was nearly 3 years since they last played doubles together before today.) And they've shown the whole team – and the French public – that they're 100% committed to this DC campaign.

You expressed much better than I did why I was so favourable about this doubles combination. It showed them that they can rely on each other - in a doubles match, but also in a general sense, implementing the famous mousquetaire spirit one for all, all for one. And this spirit has not really always reigned in the French DC-team in the past. That does not mean that they should play all doubles matches in the future together, even if tehy have huge potential together.


It was the first time they played together in DC. Before, it was just not possible, because Llodra was considered a certainty, and Llodra/Richard is not a good combination. Strangely enough, I don't remember Llodra with Tsonga in DC either. It was always Llodra-Benneteau - or Llodra/Clément in earlier days which limited the options for the team. But not everyone has to agree with me. ;)

kmaria28
02-02-2014, 08:29 AM
I wasn't able to watch the all match because of the quality of our stream . All in all I have to say, that Richard is a very very good doubles player.
Played 2 great matches this weekend – he returned really well, serving so good again, and he's playing with lots and lots of confidence. It seemed he's recoverd from the injury, and enjoyed the play.

So congrats , it was a great performance both of them.:wavey:

DBR
02-03-2014, 04:58 PM
From FFT facebook - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152202601843699&set=pb.200510388698.-2207520000.1391449978.&type=3&theater

L'équipe de France de Coupe Davis a choisi de recevoir l'Allemagne en quart de finale (4, 5 et 6 avril) à Nancy sur une surface en dur, une résine sur bois semblable à celle utilisée au Masters de Londres.

The France Davis Cup team has elected to receive Germany in the quarterfinals (4, 5 and 6 April) at Nancy on a hard surface, resin on wood similar to that used at the Masters in London.

T.C
02-03-2014, 07:33 PM
From FFT facebook - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152202601843699&set=pb.200510388698.-2207520000.1391449978.&type=3&theater

L'équipe de France de Coupe Davis a choisi de recevoir l'Allemagne en quart de finale (4, 5 et 6 avril) à Nancy sur une surface en dur, une résine sur bois semblable à celle utilisée au Masters de Londres.

The France Davis Cup team has elected to receive Germany in the quarterfinals (4, 5 and 6 April) at Nancy on a hard surface, resin on wood similar to that used at the Masters in London.

I can never understand the thinking behind surface choices: red clay right before the February indoor swing and indoor hard right before the main red clay swing. And it's not like Germany can't handle the speed; Kohli and Haas are good grass court players - although maybe they're targeting Funky Flo. But we know Richie doesn't like fast courts.

Puschkin
02-03-2014, 07:41 PM
I can never understand the thinking behind surface choices: red clay right before the February indoor swing and indoor hard right before the main red clay swing.
Against the Aussies clay was the right choice, definitely the worst surface for them. The Germans are like the French, polyvalent on all surfaces.

DBR
03-22-2014, 06:08 PM
Tommy Haas has pulled out of Miami and the DC QF against France with a shoulder injury.

Source: http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-davis/81417-haas-forfait-pour-france-allemagne

DBR
03-28-2014, 06:08 PM
So this is what happened to the top German players...

Josh Meiseles ‏@jmeistennis 38 mins
Rough times ahead of Germany's Davis Cup QF in France. Haas (shoulder), Kohlschreiber (elbow), Brands (mono), Mayer (groin) all out.

Don't like to see anyone injured but especially feel bad for Brands who has been diagnosed with mononucleosis. I saw him destroy Ferrer in January (when Ferrer was playing really well) and couldn't understand why the rest of his season has been so terrible. Explains a lot.

Kei Nishikori has also withdrawn from his Miami SF, so not sure if he will play DC against the Czech Rep. (If France beat Germany, they play the winner of that tie.)

DBR
03-30-2014, 01:21 PM
The French team are on their way to Nancy... Allez! :)

https://twitter.com/Gael_Monfils/status/450231611385454592/photo/1

DBR
03-31-2014, 09:31 AM
Oh crap - Richard has withdrawn from DC QF with a back injury which needs 8 days rest... Llodra and ERV are being called into the squad. I wondered why Richard didn't practice yesterday... :sad:

http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/coupe-davis-2/2014/richard-gasquet-forfait-pour-france-allemagne_sto4195589/story.shtml

kmaria28
03-31-2014, 10:19 AM
It's explain the Miami. :sad:
France should beat Germany without him. Hope, he will recover soon.:wavey:

Puschkin
03-31-2014, 12:01 PM
Oh crap - Richard has withdrawn from DC QF with a back injury

No! :sad: That's really sad for him when he put so much importance on DC this year.

soulage
03-31-2014, 05:33 PM
Pity it seems he wanted to stay but they said to him to go back in paris. he could come to cheer during the tie if he's OK.

DBR
03-31-2014, 08:05 PM
Pity it seems he wanted to stay but they said to him to go back in paris. he could come to cheer during the tie if he's OK.

Thanks for the news, soulage. :wavey:

It's very sad that he can't play, but maybe there is some treatment in Paris which can help.

T.C
04-01-2014, 12:33 AM
Oh crap - Richard has withdrawn from DC QF with a back injury which needs 8 days rest... Llodra and ERV are being called into the squad. I wondered why Richard didn't practice yesterday... :sad:

http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/coupe-davis-2/2014/richard-gasquet-forfait-pour-france-allemagne_sto4195589/story.shtml

Does he have sciatica or did he injure his back?

I was just telling my husband that I don't understand why Clement chose Monfils when ERV is playing so well...

DBR
04-01-2014, 01:45 AM
Does he have sciatica or did he injure his back?

According to Eric Salliot...

Eric Salliot ‏@ericsalliot 16 hrs
Le terme exact pour expliquer le forfait de @richardgasquet1 est lombosciatalgie.

Eric Salliot @ ericsalliot 16 hrs
The exact term to explain the withdrawal of @richardgasquet1 is Lumbosciatica.

I think Lumbosciatica is also known as lumbar sciatica in English, but I'm not medical. Richard's is apparently on the right, so he will have pain on the lower right hand side of his back, and maybe also pain down that leg. :sad:

The problem with sciatica (I have been googling!) is that it's a symptom - it's nerve pain - and you have to figure out what is irritating the root of the nerve and causing the pain, and then deal with that issue.

I was just telling my husband that I don't understand why Clement chose Monfils when ERV is playing so well...

I think Gael really wanted to play and it was good for his spirits to be included in the team. But ERV really deserves a chance, no doubt about that. Too bad the way it's happened though.

Puschkin
04-01-2014, 06:08 AM
I was just telling my husband that I don't understand why Clement chose Monfils when ERV is playing so well...
Gael - quite similar to Richard - needs to feel well to play well, having the confidence of Clément will certainly help him. Plus, Gael has a good DC record, 7 wins, 2 losses. He only lost twice, once to Djokovic and his very first match against de Bakker, and he has good wins like Ferrer, Nalbandian and Kohlschreiber twice.

T.C
04-01-2014, 01:52 PM
Clement's job is captain, coach and therapist. So nice for him to have such a deep
team to work with though. I wonder who his combinations will be. I assume Jo and Gael with Mika/Julien in doubles?

DBR, sometimes sciatica becomes chronic. My husband has it - came on out of the blue while on an Australian walkabout many many years ago and it rears it's ugly head once in a while. He gets acupuncture and massage when it's bad. According to my rheumatologist, it's a young person's issue as sciatica tends to improve with age when one's spinal discs deteriorate as it frees up the sciatic nerve. But then your discs are messed up. Old age is not for sissies.

DBR
04-01-2014, 05:55 PM
DBR, sometimes sciatica becomes chronic.

Yes, I don't think it's a good thing to have at all. L'Equipe sources say he's had it since Miami.

T.C
04-03-2014, 12:48 AM
Tennis Channel is actually showing all 3 rubbers of France v Australia. I recorded the doubles match :-D

DBR
04-03-2014, 11:10 AM
Tennis Channel is actually showing all 3 rubbers of France v Australia. I recorded the doubles match :-D

Awesome. :yeah:

DBR
04-03-2014, 11:14 AM
Is anyone else really surprised and confused by the nominations/ draw?

Other than Tsonga, I did not see any of this coming. I thought Gael would play singles and Benny/ ERV would play in the doubles.

FFT ‏@FFTennis 25 mins
#FRAvGER #DavisCup
1er simple : Benneteau-Kamke ; 2e simple : Tsonga-Gojowczyk

FFT ‏@FFTennis 19 mins
#FRAvGER #daviscup
Le double de samedi : Llodra/Monfils contre Kamke/Begemann

kmaria28
04-03-2014, 11:29 AM
I think Monfils wouldn't play doubles. It would happen like the previous DC vs Australie. There are 3 options for Clement.

:wavey:

Puschkin
04-03-2014, 11:51 AM
Is anyone else really surprised and confused by the nominations/ draw?
No, not really, Clémemt trying to outfox Tarpishev, too bad that he wasn't the French DC-captain at that time. ;)

DBR
04-03-2014, 01:56 PM
Well, Clement outfoxed me! I thought with this being a relatively "safe" tie that ERV would be given a chance.

Apparently Benny knew on Tuesday he would play. Gael told them quickly he wasn't going to play singles. Maybe he felt too much pressure after Richard withdrew?

scmom
04-04-2014, 11:05 PM
cannot believe that France is down 2-0 to Germany in this tie. Goes to show you that nothing is certain in sport.
The young Germans played out of their minds , from what i hear.
Hope that the French team can pull out the win though - but it is not going to be easy

ImmzB
04-04-2014, 11:18 PM
:sad: :sad:

Jo's loss was a blow but Germans played great! France are still in this, should win the doubles tomorrow and then day 3 will be massive!! Monfils will most likely play the 4th rubber!

COME ON FRANCE!! The Davis Cup this year was a goal!! ALLLEZ!!! COME ON REESHARD, PUMP THE TEAM UP!!!

:rocker2: :rocker2:

DBR
04-05-2014, 12:01 AM
cannot believe that France is down 2-0 to Germany in this tie. Goes to show you that nothing is certain in sport. The young Germans played out of their minds , from what i hear.


The Germans were outstanding, but Benny had a bad day. He was 4-0 up in the 1st set, then Kamke came back and Benny missed a few set points. After Benny lost that set in a TB (1 hr and 15 mins long), he fell away. It seemed like the pressure got to him.

Jo actually played the best I've seen him play for ages. He had a match point in the 4th set TB, and hit a volley which was oh so close, but just went wide. Gojowczyk then saved another MP in that TB with a big serve and FH winner combo and went onto win the set.

The German pulled up with cramp early in the 5th, but was gradually able to run it off. Jo saved 2 MP's against him in the 10th game with 2 aces. It was heroic stuff, both players really going for it, both hitting monster serves and forehands. The match was over 4 and 1/4 hours long. The game Jo was broken to lose was his 1st break of serve all day. I felt really sorry for him, he fought very, very hard, and was put under a lot of extra pressure by Benny's defeat. Gael and Richard looked really stressed out on the sidelines during Jo's match, as you can imagine.

The Germans played like they had nothing to lose - which they didn't, but it will be interesting to see how they play over the next couple of days, now that it looks like they have a real chance to win.

I really hope France can turn it around. As well as Richard's dream to win the Davis Cup, Clement is a good Captain and I'm not sure he would be kept on if France suffer a shock loss here.

Allez les bleus!!!

Schu
04-05-2014, 05:40 AM
Wow :eek: But Frenchies can still pull it out. Allez!

I'm sorry Richard didn't get to play because he seems to really want to play and win for France. But part of me is glad he's not playing because somehow the press would blame it all on Richard if France doesn't win - they still might given the unfair press he's received for just about anything concerned with Davis Cup.

BTW, I have a question for anyone following French press coverage of DC. Monfils basically did the same thing Richard did several years ago when Richard said he didn't feel he could play the DC match against Roddick in the U.S., someone else could play a better match and he got ripped to shreds by the press. I actually thought that was a rather noble and courageous thing to do but apparently not many in the press did. What is the press saying about Monfils "not being ready"?

Well it isn't over yet. France has several very good doubles options, all of which HAVE to be stronger than anything Germany can come up with. And the experience and home crowd should help france take the win on the last day.

T.C
04-05-2014, 07:18 AM
I'm shocked too. I went to the Davis Cup site to check scores and both France and Switzerland were down!

I don't know if the Frenchies can pull it off - they're all so emotionally fragile; being down 0 - 2 might be too much. Does anybody here know how well Llodra/Monfils play? If they're so-so, maybe Bene-Llodra would be better (Bene will have extra motivation).

I hope they don't get rid of Clement for this...It's a hard job.

DBR
04-05-2014, 04:08 PM
Great win for Benny and Llodra... amazing performance, great drama and huge crowd support. :woohoo:

If you didn't see it... you would be proud of Richard too. He was on his feet most of the 4th set, hitting the boards with his hands, cheering on the team and encouraging the crowd to make more noise.

Eric Salliot @ ericsalliot 53 mins
J'ai rarement vu Ritchie aussi impliqué sur un banc. Beau à voir

Eric Salliot @ ericsalliot 53 mins
I have rarely seen Ritchie also involved on a bench. Nice to see

Clémence Jacob ‏@Clemence_Jacob 48 mins
@richardgasquet1 metteur d'ambiance au palais des sports de Nancy ! #CoupeDavis

Clémence Jacob ‏@Clemence_Jacob 48 mins
@richardgasquet1 conductor of ambiance at the Palace of Sports, Nancy! # CoupeDavis

Daisy ‏@Daisy___ 52 mins
Hands up in the air a la Richard Gasquet

Céline Farese ‏@CelineFarese 52 mins
@richardgasquet1 qui chauffe le public ! �������� #CoupeDavis

Céline Farese ‏@CelineFarese 52 mins
@richardgasquet1 who ignites the public ! �������� #CoupeDavis

ImmzB
04-06-2014, 05:49 PM
France are through to the SF!!! Tsonga and Monfils complete the comeback!! WELL DONE FRANCE!! ALLEZ!!

ImmzB
04-06-2014, 05:51 PM
Hopefully this win gives Richard an extra bite going into the clay season. Even though he didn't play, you could see how motivated he was during the rubbers and he obviously stated this year is for the Davis Cup!!

Knowing that you're in the SF of DC and you want to cement your place!!! 3 Grand Slams left for that, 5 Masters series left!!

ALLEZ REESHARD!! BRING ON MONTE CARLO!!

DBR
04-06-2014, 06:28 PM
France have home advantage in the SF - French journalists are already suggesting Roland Garros as an option.

The only bad thing I saw today was Richard stretching and twisting his back a few times. Hopefully, just precautionary and he wasn't in a lot of pain. We really need to get going for clay season now.

Allez Richard!!!

Puschkin
04-08-2014, 05:48 AM
I was away over the weekend, but well done, Gael, to keep his nerves when it really mattered.

DBR
04-28-2014, 09:45 AM
SF venue is now confirmed. Philippe Chatrier court at Roland Garros in September.

Allez!!! :)

http://www.fft.fr/actualites/fil-d-infos/coupe-davis-france-republique-tcheque-roland-garros-0

DBR
09-04-2014, 12:59 PM
Richard and Benny practising at Roland Garros today... Allez! :)

https://vine.co/v/Ou5OdHtH1x6

soulage
09-04-2014, 05:42 PM
On Eurosport few minutes ago

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DBR
09-04-2014, 06:49 PM
On Eurosport few minutes ago

Thanks soulage. :wavey:

DBR
09-05-2014, 09:32 AM
Piccie from DC yesterday... :)

Not sure what shoes he's wearing - it could be Asics, Nike or Head at this point!

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10661112_1628022054091167_1445486326_n.jpg
Web source: http://iconosquare.com/p/802648651133849792_1297949579 (instagram: @jibfabre)

DBR
09-11-2014, 09:43 AM
Richard is playing Berdych on Friday... OMG!!!

FFT ‏@FFTennis 43 secs
#FRACZE #TeamFranceTennis #DavisCup Les simples de vendredi : Gasquet c. Berdych, suivi de Tsonga c. Rosol


Doubles will not stay like this... ;)

FFT ‏@FFTennis 43 secs
#FRACZE #TeamFranceTennis #DavisCup Le double de samedi : Benneteau / Monfils c. Stepanek / Vesely

Puschkin
09-11-2014, 10:48 AM
So apparently, Gael was not ready, but Clément can still change his mind, as can the Czech captain, for the moment the Czech doubles is Stepanek/Vessely. However, if Richard does play the first match tomorrow, it will be scoreboard for me. :mad:

Pratik
09-11-2014, 11:23 AM
Navratil is famous in thinking that he can fool people. His initial doubles team is never the one that plays. Czech doubles will be Bird-Steps.

Playing Gasquet in singles is really not the smartest decision. He is out of form, and has played exactly one clay tournament in the past 15 months and he was injured in that. Expect the h2h against T-Bird to drop.

I think Rosol should be beaten in both his matches, so it comes down to one win against the flowery bird-man or the doubles win. And Steps is in the worst form of his life. He has been really sloppy of late, in both singles and doubles. So the French should win the doubles rubber.

All in all, the French have no right to lose this, no matter who plays the rubbers.

DBR
09-11-2014, 12:08 PM
Playing Gasquet in singles is really not the smartest decision.

All the journalists said Gael seemed tired, after he got back late from the US. A match at 10.30am would not have been good for Gael either. He hates mornings!

Richard has pretty much lived on Chatrier for the past week, constantly practising. Clement must think he is fit and ready, and has adapted well to the surface. I really hope Richard can play well and win!

All in all, the French have no right to lose this, no matter who plays the rubbers.

I disagree. Rosol can be dangerous on his day, and Berdych-Steps are a very experienced doubles team. The Czechs aren't the champions for nothing. Even with home advantage, this could still be very hard for the French. Look at what happened against the German B team. France can't take anything for granted.

Allez!

Puschkin
09-11-2014, 12:17 PM
A match at 10.30am would not have been good for Gael either. He hates mornings! Good point, plus there were hints about Gael's tiredness throughout the week.

Pratik
09-11-2014, 12:29 PM
All the journalists said Gael seemed tired, after he got back late from the US. A match at 10.30am would not have been good for Gael either. He hates mornings!

Richard has pretty much lived on Chatrier for the past week, constantly practising. Clement must think he is fit and ready, and has adapted well to the surface. I really hope Richard can play well and win!

Ah, I see. Add to that this(from GM):

I heard he had a little warning yesterday in training (at the thigh). It doesn't seem serious, but I guess that Clement want to preserve him for sunday if the 5th rubber is a decisive one.

I also guess that they are confident with Gasquet on clay against Berdych. Remember Roma ;)

Maybe Gasquet on Day 1 isn't that bad an option.

I disagree. Rosol can be dangerous on his day, and Berdych-Steps are a very experienced doubles team. The Czechs aren't the champions for nothing. Even with home advantage, this could still be very hard for the French. Look at what happened against the German B team. France can't take anything for granted.

Allez!

Yes, Rosol has had some very good results this year, even on clay. But there is no way I can imagine him beating any of Tsonga/Richie/Monfils on RG clay in front of loud French supporters. Just not going to happen.

As for Bird-Steps, last two years Bird was on fire, which he isn't anymore. Much more importantly, Stepanek was playing very well the last two years. He also had the doubles and the occasional singles results to show for it. This year, Stepanek has been playing crap in singles other than one or two matches against big opponents. His doubles performance has been even worse(don't be fooled by his doubles W/L this year. He has been the worst of the 4 on court way too often this year). In fact ,several people on the doubles forum are of the opinion that now Stepanek is too old to be a good partner for Paes, despite being 6 years younger than him :p

Edit: Re: the German tie: That time Tsonga was in terrible form for several months. Tsonga has now rediscovered him form. Plus that time, Benny played the first rubber because Richie was injured and Monfils under-prepared.

DBR
09-11-2014, 04:49 PM
Edit: Re: the German tie: That time Tsonga was in terrible form for several months. Tsonga has now rediscovered him form. Plus that time, Benny played the first rubber because Richie was injured and Monfils under-prepared.

Tsonga actually played well in that match. But Gojo played really well. All I mean is that you just can't take these things for granted. Berdych is still a very powerful player and Rosol can still cause upsets. Soulage wrote on the DC thread that either team could be 2-0 at the end of day 1, and I really feel like that too. But obviously, I hope it's as one-sided as you think it will be for France.

Pratik
09-11-2014, 05:40 PM
Tsonga actually played well in that match. But Gojo played really well. All I mean is that you just can't take these things for granted. Berdych is still a very powerful player and Rosol can still cause upsets. Soulage wrote on the DC thread that either team could be 2-0 at the end of day 1, and I really feel like that too. But obviously, I hope it's as one-sided as you think it will be for France.

Didn't say anything about it being one-sided. I just identified 3 rubbers that IMO France should win, one of which is the 5th one. Which means it could very well come down to a deciding rubber(which IMO France should win if it comes to that).

Puschkin
09-12-2014, 10:53 AM
:bigclap::clap2::aparty: YES! Yes! Yes!

Too bad, I could not see it live, I really hope somebody puts the whole match on youtube and soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

T.C
09-12-2014, 11:01 AM
Geesh, that was a fast one - not that I'm complaining. Just goes to show what a motivated Gasquet can do!

DBR
09-12-2014, 11:02 AM
SO, so proud of him!!! :cheerleader: Playing under so much pressure. WOW, what a dream start for Richard and France. :yippee:

The crowd was really behind him, Gael and the Frenchies hardly sat down, Llodra, ERV, all there. Great scenes at the end, Richard really fired up in that last game. After all the team hugs and everything, he got down on his knees on the court and took the cheers from the crowd!

Berdych made a lot of mistakes but a lot of credit for that has to go to Richard. He used so much variety and Berdych never really got settled.

In his quotes Richard says he still has lots left for the doubles!!! ;)

kmaria28
09-12-2014, 11:10 AM
:)So solid win, his attitude was great. Congrats Richard, allez France !:worship:

DBR
09-12-2014, 11:10 AM
:worship:

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Web source:https://twitter.com/pierrereneworms/status/510383571761377281/photo/1

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Web source: https://twitter.com/francetvsport/status/510382391454883840/photo/1

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Pratik
09-12-2014, 11:39 AM
:woohoo:

I thought it was a 12.30 CET start. Thought that maybe a set and a half at max would be over right now :facepalm:
Dominating h2h vs T-bird now. Time to troll GM :p

Pratik
09-12-2014, 11:48 AM
I'd love to see Richie/Benny in action tomorrow. Richie and RG-champ should destroy BirdySteps

DBR
09-12-2014, 11:51 AM
I'd love to see Richie/Benny in action tomorrow. Richie and RG-champ should destroy BirdySteps

If France are 2-0 at the end of today, I think it will be Richard-Jo in doubles.

Pratik
09-12-2014, 11:59 AM
If France are 2-0 at the end of today, I think it will be Richard-Jo in doubles.

NO!!
Whatever the tie scoreline be, how can you have the current RG doubles champion sitting out the doubles rubber in RG :sobbing:

Puschkin
09-12-2014, 12:06 PM
After all the team hugs and everything, he got down on his knees on the court and took the cheers from the crowd!
I want a piccie of that, but from the front, not the back. Pleeeeeeeeease, DBR, find me one and I will change my avatar.

Pratik
09-12-2014, 01:26 PM
All in all, the French have no right to lose this, no matter who plays the rubbers.

:drive: ;)

ImmzB
09-12-2014, 01:35 PM
Alllllllezzzzzzzz!!

Good performance from Richard and it was great to see him so pumped!!

T.C
09-12-2014, 05:35 PM
I want a piccie of that, but from the front, not the back. Pleeeeeeeeease, DBR, find me one and I will change my avatar.

Not a picture, but there is a video. If you go to daviscup.com Live Blog, scroll down and they'll show the end of the match and a very emotional Richie.

Actually, it'll probably be in the Videos/Highlights section of the site.

Gasquetno.1
09-12-2014, 05:38 PM
Can't believe I'm in Paris and I don't have tickets to the Davis Cup :(

If anyone can help me out with getting tickets to Sunday's matches that would be much appreciated, they appear to be sold out on the official website *cries*

Puschkin
09-12-2014, 05:46 PM
Not a picture, but there is a video. If you go to daviscup.com Live Blog, scroll down and they'll show the end of the match and a very emotional Richie.
Thanks, meanwhile I got the piccie, I have seen the post-match interview in English and the 8 minutes highlightes. If there is more I will watch eagerly. Yep, I am greedy today. ;)

Edit: somebody is genreous today. :)

Richard Gasquet @richardgasquet1 1 Std.
Merci pour le soutien que le public m'a apporté! J'ai pris un vrai plaisir à jouer aujourd'hui @rolandgarros #happy #teamfrance @DavisCup

Puschkin
09-13-2014, 11:40 AM
Richard and Tsonga against Berdych/Stepanek, both teams changed as expected. Allez!

DBR
09-13-2014, 11:48 AM
Richard and Tsonga against Berdych/Stepanek, both teams changed as expected. Allez!

Exciting... Allez France!!!! :)

T.C
09-13-2014, 12:31 PM
Can't believe I'm in Paris and I don't have tickets to the Davis Cup :(

If anyone can help me out with getting tickets to Sunday's matches that would be much appreciated, they appear to be sold out on the official website *cries*

I hope you're able to get tickets!

Pratik
09-13-2014, 01:22 PM
crushing BH cross court winner from Richie to get the mini at *2-3 but good play by both Czechs to take both of Tsonga's serve which was enough for the set.

Gasquet and Steps by far the better players on court today. Benny could have made the difference.

T.C
09-13-2014, 03:25 PM
Nice backhand down the line from Richie to take the 3rd set! He's pumped!

Puschkin
09-13-2014, 03:55 PM
Stepanek injured at the end,but well done, Richard and Tsonga.

DBR
09-13-2014, 04:04 PM
A hard fought match, over 3 and a half hours. They didn't always play well at the same time, but they fought and came through. Richard was inspired at the end of the 3rd set. Great reactions from him. But he looked tired after this match ended.

Great effort - now get some rest!!! France are in the final. :cheerleader: Allez!!!


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Web source: https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/510822905648009216/photo/1 (twitter: @Sportsnet)

ImmzB
09-13-2014, 06:38 PM
Alllllezzzzzz France!!!!

Great to be in the Final!!

afterglows
09-14-2014, 12:16 AM
Just saw the result and that Richard was picked to play in singles.

I'm really happy that we're in final and that Richard's contribution to that win was very significant! Beating Berdych in 3 little sets is a really good result. Congrats to Clement for making the right choice and trusting Richard. I hope this tie will give him an extra boost for the rest of the season!
Now I need to watch the highlights to both his matches!

The good thing about having your country in the Davis Cup final is that it makes the off-season shorter.

afterglows
09-22-2014, 12:58 PM
Do you think they choose clay because they count on Richard or do they just hope the adaptation from indoor hard will be difficult to manage? Clay being the only surface on which Richard ever scored a win vs Federer. But it was BO2 sets matches both times.

If Richard play in single that means day 1 vs Roger in the ranking stay this way.

Then if it's 2-2, the last tie vs Wawa could be electrical.
But I guess that if Monfils is in form he will be chosen to play this one specially if Gasquet played the doubles the day before.

DBR
09-22-2014, 02:28 PM
Do you think they choose clay because they count on Richard or do they just hope the adaptation from indoor hard will be difficult to manage?

Clement is very democratic, he listens a lot to the team. I think most of the players thought clay was the right choice. I know Simon did, and I suspect Richard did too. Gael chose hard courts but said he was one of the only ones who wanted that. I think he chose hard because he has pain when he changes surfaces.

But I think clay is a good choice. They all play well on clay. And the French will definitely have more time to prepare and adapt to clay. But it will be a tough final no matter what surface they chose.

Puschkin
09-22-2014, 02:36 PM
Do you think they choose clay because they count on Richard or do they just hope the adaptation from indoor hard will be difficult to manage?

Choosing clay worked well gainst the Czechs, and as they all might be a little suspicious, the might have decided again for clay. The limited time for the Swiss to adapt is certainly an argument, even if many posters on GM deny this. Plus the French have more options as they have more depth. If Roger and Wawrinka play all matches, fatigue may play a part on Sunday. But DBR is right, it will be tough anyway, whatevere the surface, but the French have certainly their chances.

Pratik
09-22-2014, 02:38 PM
Clay has been confirmed.

Davis Cup ‏@DavisCup 14m

Davis Cup Final: France confirms a clay court surface (indoors under a retractable roof) to
receive Switzerland 21-23 Nov in Lille

IMO, Clay vs Hard was essentially Gasquet vs Monfils. Seems Clement has more faith in Gasquet.

Puschkin
09-22-2014, 02:45 PM
IMO, Clay vs Hard was essentially Gasquet vs Monfils. Seems Clement has more faith in Gasquet.
I don't think so. You underestiamte Tsonga's influence. He certainly had his say as well.

Pratik
09-22-2014, 02:53 PM
I don't think so. You underestiamte Tsonga's influence. He certainly had his say as well.

I didn't mean it in that way. Tsonga is clearly going to be the French main player irrespective of surface. On hard, Monfils would be #2, and on clay Gasquet would be #2.

Either way, I didn't take into account Monfils' new injury which is making him take 6 weeks off and he may be doubtful for the DC final. Considering that, clay was the obvious option.

DBR
09-22-2014, 07:14 PM
Either way, I didn't take into account Monfils' new injury which is making him take 6 weeks off and he may be doubtful for the DC final. Considering that, clay was the obvious option.

This injury of Gael's is uncertain, and the reporting on GM has not been very accurate. What Gael actually said is that he thinks his patellar tendon is a bit inflamed but hopes anything between a few days to a couple of weeks rest will be enough. But because of his history of knee problems, he's worried it may need longer. He said if it was 6 weeks off, for example, everything would be a lot harder. But until he has the MRI tomorrow, no-one really knows the situation. (Unless, of course, he had it today. ;))

Arnaud Clement has given an interview about the choice of clay, in French here - http://www.tennisactu.net/news-itw-clement-le-choix-s-est-fait-naturellement-daviscup-daviscup-clement-fftennis-31995.html

He said clay was a natural choice, which was thoughtfully and collectively made. They all talked on the Saturday after the DC doubles win, then again on the Sunday, and then again this week, so that they didn't rush into a decision. He said no player was opposed to the choice, but they all really weighed up the pros and cons before giving their opinion. They had group discussions about it, then individual reflection, then discussed together again.

He said he thinks the French are as strong on clay as hard, and that to choose hard courts risked giving the advantage to the Swiss, who will just have had a week of high level competition matches on that surface. But because he also thinks the Swiss play well on both hard and clay, he doesn't think the surface will be a decisive factor.

When asked if they planned to have the slowest clay possible, he said no, as that would not necessarily benefit his players either. He thinks the surface will be a bit faster than outdoor clay.

* One bad thing about Lille is that because of existing events in the stadium, the players will only be able to practice on the court three days before the final. I think the plan is to recreate something as close as possible to the conditions to practice on. After Bercy, the French team will have a few days off, then about 10 days to prepare.

Puschkin
09-22-2014, 09:04 PM
I didn't take into account Monfils' new injury which is making him take 6 weeks off and he may be doubtful for the DC final. Considering that, clay was the obvious option.

I wonder why so many people (also on GM) consider it already a given that Monfils is out for the final. Gael will have a test tomorrow and even if there turns out to be a problem, he has almost two months to deal with it.

Gael's H/H with Wawrinka is 2-2, all matches played on hard, last match in 2011.
Tsonga's H/H with Wawrinka is 3-2 for Tsonga, 4 matches played on clay, on clay it is 2 all.
Simon's H/H with Wawrinka is 2-1 for Wawrinka, Wawrinka won the only match on clay, Roland Garros 2012, 5 sets
Richard's H/H with Wawrinka is 1-1, Wawrinka won in Roland Garros 2013, five sets

Gael's H/H with Federer 8-2, 4 matches on clay, Federer won all of them, last match 2011
Tsonga's H/H with Federer 11-5, 3 matches on clay, Tsonga won in Roland Garros 2013
Simon's H/H versus Federer 4-2, 2 matches on clay, Federer won them all, Simon's wins date from 2008
Richard's H/H versus Federer 12-2, 4 matches on clay, Richard won 2 of them, the legendary win in MC in 2005 and 2011 in Rome

Pratik
09-22-2014, 09:22 PM
Best to leave GM out of this. Don't feel like posting there anymore(and I regret it most of the times that I do). Everyone in the DC GM thread is saying that the French have no chance in the Gasquet OR Monfils vs Wawrinka match :rolleyes:

Yes, it seems we won't know about Monfils till tomorrow (at least).

One bad thing about Lille is that because of existing events in the stadium, the players will only be able to practice on the court three days before the final. I think the plan is to recreate something as close as possible to the conditions to practice on. After Bercy, the French team will have a few days off, then about 10 days to prepare.

:mad:

Puschkin
09-22-2014, 09:38 PM
Best to leave GM out of this. Don't feel like posting there anymore(and I regret it most of the times that I do). Everyone in the DC GM thread is saying that the French have no chance in the Gasquet OR Monfils vs Wawrinka match.
They said the same about Berdych against Richard and they were wrong. They questioned Richard/Tsonga in doubles and they were wrong. Some people just don't have enough imagination. The Swiss playing MTF will be tired, nobody can convince me of the opposite. If the do not put up Roger /Wawrinka for the doubles they will lose it, I cannot imagine Chiudinelli being part of a doubles win on clay in France. And if they put up Roger and Wawrinka for the doubles and this might be a long match, I see good opportunities for the French team on Sunday.

DBR
09-22-2014, 09:40 PM
Best to leave GM out of this. Don't feel like posting there anymore(and I regret it most of the times that I do).

+1. Dreadful place. Although it does kind of make me laugh that a bunch of teenage/ 20-something armchair internet addicts think they know more about tennis and surface choices than a group of current and former players, with about 100 years worth of professional ATP experience between them. :rolleyes:

:mad:

Yes, that really is annoying me about Lille too. I worry it's more crucial than the surface choice. Feels like they're giving away part of the advantage they have to prepare more. I would have preferred they played the final somewhere else, where the Frenchies could practice on the actual court for 10 days, but I suppose all of these large venues have pre-existing commitments, arranged months in advance. :(

Pratik
09-22-2014, 09:44 PM
The Swiss playing MTF will be tired, nobody can convince me of the opposite. If the do not put up Roger /Wawrinka for the doubles they will lose it, I cannot imagine Chiudinelli being part of a doubles win on clay in France. And if they put up Roger and Wawrinka for the doubles and this might be a long match, I see good opportunities for the French team on Sunday.

Interesting typo there :lol:

I agree with everything quoted there. Not sure how that is possible. You and me agreeing on DC related matters! No way. Should probably check back again tomorrow morning to confirm.

Pratik
09-22-2014, 09:49 PM
Yes, that really is annoying me about Lille too. I worry it's more crucial than the surface choice. Feels like they're giving away part of the advantage they have to prepare more. I would have preferred they played the final somewhere else, where the Frenchies could practice on the actual court for 10 days, but I suppose all of these large venues have pre-existing commitments, arranged months in advance. :(

It's terrible. But they probably don't have much choice. The time of the year forces it to be indoor and you obviously want a large enough venue to give extra home crowd support. Plus it is less than two months before the final, so as you said, most venues would have pre-existing commitments.

Puschkin
09-22-2014, 09:50 PM
Interesting typo there :lol:
:lol:

I agree with everything quoted there. Not sure how that is possible. You and me agreeing on DC related matters!
Unless you come up with Benneteau/ERV for doubles. :p

DBR
09-22-2014, 09:54 PM
The Swiss playing WTF will be tired, nobody can convince me of the opposite.

Yes, I just realised WTF finishes on the 16th November. If the Swiss reach the late stages there, they really should be tired.

Pratik
09-22-2014, 10:00 PM
Unless you come up with Benneteau/ERV for doubles. :p

You had to spoil it, didn't you?

Actually, this time I may agree with you on this too. The option between Monfils and Gasquet could be very helpful. All the more so considering Swiss have a weak doubles team(I'm assuming Federer won't be playing doubles. After a reasonably heavy schedule ending at WTF, 3 Bo5 matches in 3 days is probably too much for him).

And since you insist on us disagreeing (:awww:), I'll give you this(again): It should be Benny/Gasquet in doubles. We need to save Jo for the Fed match. Can't afford him being tired there.

afterglows
09-22-2014, 10:12 PM
It's terrible. But they probably don't have much choice. The time of the year forces it to be indoor and you obviously want a large enough venue to give extra home crowd support. Plus it is less than two months before the final, so as you said, most venues would have pre-existing commitments.

I think the large enough venue is mandatory for a final in Davis Cup. The capacity must be of 12,000 seats minimum. Plus it has to be a major city of the country. Otherwise maybe it would have be interesting to play outside of the metropole adding jetlag and outdoor conditions to things the Swiss must adapt to...

It should be Benny/Gasquet in doubles. We need to save Jo for the Fed match. Can't afford him being tired there.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think Jo/Richie will only happen if France is 2-0 after friday. Not necessary the most probable outcome.
Jo will play both singles obviously.
Benny/Gasquet for the double.
Then it could be Monfils/Federer friday, Wawrinka/Gasquet sunday. Or the other way around...

But if Monfils really can't play. Then maybe ERV/Benny can be an option if Clement wants to make Gasquet plays both singles. Otherwise, Simon needs to play the first match vs Federer I guess.

T.C
09-23-2014, 01:33 AM
You had to spoil it, didn't you?

Actually, this time I may agree with you on this too. The option between Monfils and Gasquet could be very helpful. All the more so considering Swiss have a weak doubles team(I'm assuming Federer won't be playing doubles. After a reasonably heavy schedule ending at WTF, 3 Bo5 matches in 3 days is probably too much for him).

And since you insist on us disagreeing (:awww:), I'll give you this(again): It should be Benny/Gasquet in doubles. We need to save Jo for the Fed match. Can't afford him being tired there.

Fed will play doubles. He wants this win. But I agree it should be Benny/Gasquet for doubles (or Benny/ERV). Stan and Fed aren't a great doubles team and a good doubles team made up of strong singles players will have a good chance of beating them.

DBR
09-23-2014, 07:27 AM
Fed will play doubles. He wants this win.

I agree with that. But if everyone is fit I think it should be Jo/ Richard in doubles. Benny/ Richard don't have the serve-power for Stan/ Fed.

If France were 0-2 down after day 1, I think Tsonga would play doubles - France would be finished if they lose.
If it's 1-1, again I think Jo would play doubles - a win would mean they'd only have to win 1 of 2 singles on Sunday.
And if France were 2-0 up after day 1, I'm certain Jo and Richard would go for it to try and get the 3rd point in doubles.

T.C
09-23-2014, 11:26 AM
I agree with that. But if everyone is fit I think it should be Jo/ Richard in doubles. Benny/ Richard don't have the serve-power for Stan/ Fed.

If France were 0-2 down after day 1, I think Tsonga would play doubles - France would be finished if they lose.
If it's 1-1, again I think Jo would play doubles - a win would mean they'd only have to win 1 of 2 singles on Sunday.
And if France were 2-0 up after day 1, I'm certain Jo and Richard would go for it to try and get the 3rd point in doubles.

You don't need a lot of serve power in doubles - it's mostly placement - even in the pros. Most of these guys serve second serves in dubs and place the ball to get the return they want to set up their partners.

DBR
09-23-2014, 12:34 PM
You don't need a lot of serve power in doubles - it's mostly placement - even in the pros. Most of these guys serve second serves in dubs and place the ball to get the return they want to set up their partners.

I mean that Benny/ Richard wouldn't win enough cheap points on serve. Jo's big serve is very useful, and iirc he was the only one in the doubles v the Czechs who didn't lose serve. I think that would be very valuable and would ease pressure when playing Roger/ Stan.

scmom
09-23-2014, 02:55 PM
I have seen Richard / Benny play Stan / Fed in doubles. They lost although they held match points.( to be fair the crowd was a very partisan Fed crowd - and that will be different this time ) I think - if all healthy - Jo / Richard is a better choice . More fire power , with Jo's serve as DBR said , could earn them a few quick points . Even in dubs that is a useful thing when you are playing
against a good team. And make no mistake , Stan / Fed - gold medal winners in doubles at the Olympics - are a really good team.
Of course much of the doubles selection would depend on the score line from the singles - so that could play a major role in the choice.