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Maximum number of ranking points

RonE
11-27-2004, 07:49 PM
What is the maximum amount of race/entry points a player can accrue?

According to the ATP website, the year end race points are the points received from the 4 Grand Slams, the 9 Masters Series, the TMC and 5 best performances at optional tournaments.

Let's take a hypothetical situation where a player wins all 4 Grand Slams, all 9 TMS, the TMC (without losing any round robin matches) and 5 Int'l Series Gold (the optional events with the most ranking points)- what would be that player's point tally at the end of the year?

If winners receive 200 race points for a GS, 100 for a TMS, 150 for TMC (all RR matches won) and 60 for Int'l Series Gold then I calculate that player will have:

4x200 + 9x100 + 150 + 5x60 = 2,150.

Also, at year's end the race points multiplied by 5 give the year end entry points so they will be 5x2,150 = 10,750.

In short- 2,150 race points or 10,750 entry points.

Is this correct or am I missing something (bonus points for beating higher ranked players etc.)?

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/points.asp#entry

Deboogle!.
11-27-2004, 08:05 PM
are there 5 IS/ISG tournaments that offer 60 points? (I don't know the answer, just wondering out loud)

Ron, I know I've said this before, but you have too much time on your hands oy gevalt! :p;)

ae wowww
11-27-2004, 08:08 PM
Far too much!!

RonE
11-27-2004, 08:16 PM
are there 5 IS/ISG tournaments that offer 60 points? (I don't know the answer, just wondering out loud)


Yes there are ;)

http://www.atptennis.com/en/tournaments/fullcalendar/


Ron, I know I've said this before, but you have too much time on your hands oy gevalt! :p;)

Oy vey zmir, you are right I do have too much time :p :p :p

Domino
11-27-2004, 08:29 PM
The only 60 points ones that I know are Barcelona, Dubai, and Kitzbühel

RonE
11-27-2004, 09:11 PM
The only 60 points ones that I know are Barcelona, Dubai, and Kitzbühel

OK, so let's say 3 60 point events and 2 50 point events. That would add up to 2,130 race points or 10,650 entry points.

Where is Nitzan when we need him?

Deboogle!.
11-28-2004, 01:26 AM
Oy vey zmir, you are right I do have too much time :p :p :p

It's ok I love you anyway :hug: :smooch:

J. Corwin
11-28-2004, 02:50 AM
Ah I have always wondered what's the maximum amount of points a player can get! Just was too lazy to really calculate it. ;) Thanks. :cool:

Leena
11-28-2004, 02:56 AM
Try figuring it out for the WTA ranking system, and I'll give you a cookie.

Billabong
11-28-2004, 04:37 AM
It would be incredible:eek:

RonE
11-28-2004, 09:27 AM
Try figuring it out for the WTA ranking system, and I'll give you a cookie.

Cookies are fattening :p

RonE
11-28-2004, 09:29 AM
Ah I have always wondered what's the maximum amount of points a player can get! Just was too lazy to really calculate it. ;) Thanks. :cool:

You're welcome, but I'm not sure if it is 100% accurate- eg are bonus points taken into account? That is why I wanted one of the experts *cough* Nitsan *cough* to confirm/correct.

PennyThePenguin
11-28-2004, 09:43 AM
ron.... u're seriously waaaayyy too free. interesting though. would be even more interesting if someone actually managed to achieve that

novanora
11-28-2004, 01:30 PM
You're welcome, but I'm not sure if it is 100% accurate- eg are bonus points taken into account? That is why I wanted one of the experts *cough* Nitsan *cough* to confirm/correct.
From Rick Vach, 3/19/2004

Under the pre-2000 ranking system, players received bonus points for beating other players ranked in the Top 200. But the ATP removed bonus points from the rankings last year (2000), citing "less relevancy" and the fact it makes the rankings "complicated."

"Research has shown that the bonus points are less relevant now than they were in the past," according to an ATP release. "In the days where fewer top players dominated the game, a win over a higher ranked player was more significant and worthy of a bonus. However with the dramatic increase in depth and equality in the men's game now, bonus points are less appropriate. In addition, within the new simple-to-understand annual ATP Champions Race, bonus points would have made it more complicated."

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-19-2001-2710.asp

RonE
11-28-2004, 09:37 PM
Thanks Novanora :yeah: :hug:

Whistleway
11-29-2004, 01:51 PM
What is the maximum amount of race/entry points a player can accrue?

Nice question.. Thanks for your calculations.. would come in handy prob. next year when roger gonna step a gear or two ;)

Since when is the race/entry points being calculated? 1969?

thanks

Horatio Caine
11-29-2004, 01:55 PM
4 Grand Slams = 4,000
9 Masters Series = 4,500
5 Optionals = 600 + 250x3 = 1,300
Masters Cup = 750

Total = 10,600 or 2120.

That is - every 4th year the Olympics makes the total larger by 30 Race Points and 150 entry points.

Hope that helps :)

Leena
11-29-2004, 03:11 PM
Roger got 6800+ out of a possible 10750.

That's only about 64%.

Roger fails.

Wulfram
11-29-2004, 03:16 PM
Qualifying could theoretically add some more points, I guess.

liptea
11-29-2004, 03:17 PM
Roger got 6800+ out of a possible 10750.

That's only about 64%.

Roger fails.

DAMMIT, Roger, you are such a loser.

RonE
11-29-2004, 05:32 PM
Roger got 6800+ out of a possible 10750.

That's only about 64%.

Roger fails.

That's higher than a couple of my grades in computer science (not surprisingly).

liptea
11-29-2004, 07:21 PM
DAMMIT, Roger, you are such a loser.

For the person that badrepped me for this....was it not obvious that I was joking?