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MissMoJo
11-25-2004, 05:26 AM
Hey tennis fans just joined the forum. Are there any players you initially supported, but recently you've been turned off by? how come? For me(an alteration of a post i made on the federer fan site forum)

Roddick-when he was the underdog and because he was american i liked him.......then he won the U.S Open and the #1 ranking(briefly, thank God) and started walking around with this self important swagger and yelling at the umpire for practically every point he doesn't win when he's losing, really lame .....NEWSFLASH: YOU ARE NOT JOHN MCENROE AND IT IS NOT 1982

Safin- really dug him, then the 'head case' emerged....lumbering around the court, abusing the umpire and breaking racquets, and when does he not look pissed?....from his demeanor you can't tell if he's winning or losing.Yet, I support him if he's playing anyone other than Rog

Nalbandian- great player, but where's the personality? his facial expressions range from scowl to blank stare to angry scowl (pretty much indistinguishable from the former). It's hard to be excited by someone so 'droidlike'. Peanut Butter is gross

:worship: :worship: ROGI ROCKS :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Ferrero Forever
11-25-2004, 05:30 AM
not really, because i got to learn more about the players, so i kinda picked who i liked and who i didn't like after i got into tennis. I used to be more tolerant of Hewitt and Phillippoussis though, but i never really liked them

liptea
11-25-2004, 05:41 AM
I really like Coria until he kept chronically beating Carlos. Same with Hewitt. I don't hate either, I just don't really care for them.

Domino
11-25-2004, 05:41 AM
I used to like Ferrero, and then Madrid 2003, well, that explains everything.

Fedex
11-25-2004, 05:46 AM
I used to like Ferrero, and then Madrid 2003, well, that explains everything.
What about Madrid 03??

Ferrero Forever
11-25-2004, 05:47 AM
yeah madrid 03 was awesome

Domino
11-25-2004, 05:52 AM
What about Madrid 03??

His conduct against Ferreira told me a lot about his character and disposition to gamesmanship, something that still sticks in my mind today, as with Robredo's incident with Gaudio in Barcelona this year.

Aurora
11-25-2004, 08:44 AM
Safin- really dug him, then the 'head case' emerged....lumbering around the court
:lol: the lumberjack-walk can indeed be a great source of annoyance!

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2004, 09:32 AM
It usually goes the other way for me. Like with Roddick. I didn't like him, now I think he's :cool:

RonE
11-25-2004, 09:33 AM
Not really- for me it was the other way around.

I used to hate Agassi when he was in his mid-twenties with all his self importance and arrogance and his on-court tirades. Plus I was a huge Sampras fan so that didn't help too much either :armed:

But as he got older after his amazing re-habilitation and run to the top of the game I slowly started to warm up to him. Now I really enjoy watching his matches and I savour any second I can get of watching him play :)

Experimentee
11-27-2004, 02:54 PM
I used to like Ferrero, now I dont really care about him. I dunno why, I think he starting winning a lot and i just got bored of him.

Neely
11-27-2004, 03:00 PM
It usually goes the other way for me. Like with Roddick. I didn't like him, now I think he's :cool:
cool, thanks for telling me. I will convert you soon that you begin to like Kiefer ;) :p :angel:

Scotso
11-27-2004, 03:08 PM
I don't really change my mind that often.

I used to like Roddick when he was first starting out, but then he got super-arrogant and I can't stand him now.

Conversely, I used to absolutely hate Hewitt, but now he's one of my favorites.

*Ljubica*
11-27-2004, 03:51 PM
I used to quite like Coria because of his clay court abilities until I met him - then my mind changed VERY fast :devil: Conversely - I never liked Hewitt too much because of his on-court antics (I still hate all the C'mons!), but once I had met him a few times I thought he was a really sweet guy.

Vass
11-27-2004, 05:09 PM
lately i'm only turning to the liking side....

federer express
11-27-2004, 05:13 PM
used to support leconte but he ate too much, got fat and then retired...all years ago of course. now can find something to like in most players.

RPH
11-27-2004, 05:19 PM
I used to quite like Coria because of his clay court abilities until I met him - then my mind changed VERY fast :devil: Conversely - I never liked Hewitt too much because of his on-court antics (I still hate all the C'mons!), but once I had met him a few times I thought he was a really sweet guy.

You once liked Coria Rosie :eek: :rolleyes: ;)

Glad you changed your mind about him :lol: :lol: :lol:

federer express
11-27-2004, 05:20 PM
nobody likes coria but his play atthe back is amazing and u can only feel sorry for him over the final at the french

*Ljubica*
11-27-2004, 05:21 PM
You once liked Coria Rosie :eek: :rolleyes: ;)

Glad you changed your mind about him :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes - and I'm honest enough to admit it too :devil: Like I said - thought he was OK until I met him - and he didn't whine quite so much when he was younger either!!! And sorry Federer Express - I don't feel sorry for him over the French at all - just so happy for Gaston :)

RPH
11-27-2004, 05:22 PM
nobody likes coria but his play atthe back is amazing and u can only feel sorry for him over the final at the french

His play isn't amazing - boring Yes amazing No :)
I didn't feel sorry for him due to the French I was ectactsic that he lost :D

superpinkone37
11-27-2004, 05:23 PM
lots of players may not have been my favorites, but i had grown to like them, and then a certain incident put me off of them comepletely. it goes the other way as well, and from hearing about or seeing some player and something they did or said or whatever then i grew to like them and now look forward to seeing them play and keep up with their results. i think thats how it works with a lot of us.

Pea
11-27-2004, 06:46 PM
I really liked Mardy Fish, because he had the game different from the other americans. But then I just like everyone else found out how much of an asshole he is.:rolleyes:

Carito_90
11-27-2004, 06:59 PM
nobody likes coria

I do, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I used to love Lleyton but now I'm not liking him as much as I did before... the "c'mons" are starting to get very annoying :rolleyes:

Ballbuster
11-27-2004, 07:05 PM
I used to be a huge Clijsters fan until I saw all of her pathetic fans on WTAHell, and yes, I am talking about you Hagar.

that's why its better to stay away from WTAHell.

Deboogle!.
11-27-2004, 07:05 PM
I'm with CooCoo, most of the time it's the other way around for me. there were lots of players I didn't really like but they grew on me :)

But yea, I agree with Carito - since early this summer, Lleyton's "c'mons" - only when he does them to an opponent's error or DF or something - are really really obnoxious. It's about the worst on-court behavior towards the opponent that I remember seeing in a long time.

gurseal
11-27-2004, 07:06 PM
I remember that snarl Roddick wore. In that tournament in Florida against Sampras several years ago when Roddick was relatively new to the pros. Roddick blasted a serve to Sampras' body in that final. That snarl--whether Roddick could help having it and whether it had any relevance to his game--did not endear me to Roddick's personality. I don't see any evidence of the ruffled lips anymore; so I don't hold the snarl against him. I'm trying to grow up. Hope Roddick is, too.

Pea
11-27-2004, 07:12 PM
I used to be a huge Clijsters fan until I saw all of her pathetic fans on WTAHell, and yes, I am talking about you Hagar.

that's why its better to stay away from WTAHell.

It's not like you're welcomed there anyways.:haha:

Nymeria
11-27-2004, 07:27 PM
nobody likes coria


So I am nobody :cool:

Nymeria
11-27-2004, 07:31 PM
I don't think I used to cheer for some players and dislike them now.

Fedex
11-27-2004, 08:04 PM
I used to quite like Coria because of his clay court abilities until I met him - then my mind changed VERY fast :devil: Conversely - I never liked Hewitt too much because of his on-court antics (I still hate all the C'mons!), but once I had met him a few times I thought he was a really sweet guy.
Yes, Rosie, didn't you used to have Coria in you're signature, and avatar?? :devil:

Fedex
11-27-2004, 08:07 PM
I really liked Mardy Fish, because he had the game different from the other americans. But then I just like everyone else found out how much of an asshole he is.:rolleyes:
I actually think Fish has an interesting game, well better than the other american's anyway, but his asshole antics have made me root against him at all costs.

Pea
11-27-2004, 08:17 PM
Yes, Rosie, didn't you used to have Coria in you're signature, and avatar?? :devil:

I believe she did. :devil: ;)

gogo_guga
11-27-2004, 08:20 PM
I used to be a huge Roddick fan until he became ridiculously cocky!!

radics
11-27-2004, 08:34 PM
I thought Haas was a really nice player untill i met him in Germany... Good god, he was so arrogant and acted just like an asshole (not only to me, to everyone there). This was before hes injury break, maybe it's better now (i don't know) but i really can't stand him anymore.

Leena
11-27-2004, 08:38 PM
I was really getting into Nalbandian, until Roland Garros this year, where he grew man boobs. He was always a bit hefty, but it got too much there.

I was liking Roddick, until 2003 Wimbledon when ESPN sucked his dick non-stop... they even pre-empted matches at 7-7 in the 3rd set, to show replays of Andy serving 50 aces against Rusedski, and P-Mac proclaiming him God.

Tennis Fool
11-27-2004, 08:39 PM
Rosie, what's the Coria story? (You met him and...?)

*Ljubica*
11-27-2004, 09:02 PM
Rosie, what's the Coria story? (You met him and...?)

I will PM you ;) ! And just to be awkward - am I the only person who thinks Tommy Haas is a real sweetie? Whenever I've met him he is always poilte and friendly - he always achnowledges me, and although I've seen him get angry with his coach during matches, they seem to be really good mates off court and I've never seen him behave badly at any of the tournaments I've been to.

Space Cowgirl
11-27-2004, 09:28 PM
Rosie, are you a groupie or something? Just wondering, not trying to be offensive

*Ljubica*
11-27-2004, 09:32 PM
[QUOTE=Space Cowgirl]Rosie, are you a groupie

Well actually I do find it offensive - but no I'm not - just happen to have some very old friends involved in the tennis world.

MissMoJo
11-27-2004, 10:54 PM
leena, i agree with the worship of Roddick. that may have contributed to my further disliking him. cliff, pat and the others all sounded like they were having multiple orgasms just talking about his serve during wimbledon, showing replay after replay.....

i also wasn't into Agassi, but lately he's grown on me

Carito_90
11-27-2004, 11:28 PM
Rosie, are you a groupie or something? Just wondering, not trying to be offensive

:tape:

trulliscorpion
11-27-2004, 11:34 PM
Roddick. I liked him when I knew him, he was really cool. Then I noticed how much of an asshole he really is.

Ferrero. His behavior vs Zib disappointed me big time.

savesthedizzle
11-28-2004, 12:20 AM
I used to like Roddick, right when he came out on the tour, I was a fan of his. And then the swarms of girls started obsessing over him and I got sucked into their world for a little while. Because of this I immediately disliked Federer for absolutely no reason besides jealousy. Now I must say that Federer is one of my favorite players because of a certain friend of mine that made me see the light... I don't particularly like Roddick anymore. His personality off the court really annoys me, and his game is not all that special.

Jennay
11-28-2004, 12:37 AM
I don't think I remember liking someone then disliking them.

I used to not like Marat, but over the past few months he has really grown on me and I like him a lot ;)

knight_ley
11-28-2004, 01:41 AM
Now I must say that Federer is one of my favorite players because of a certain friend of mine that made me see the light...
:) I wonder who that was ;)



I must say that I'm gonna sound pretty cliche when I say this cuz it's the same reason the majority of people are saying, but it's Roddick for me too. I liked him when he first came out, but between how overrated he is here in the States and his arrogant personality, I cannot stand him anymore. I also used to be a Lleyton fan, but now he just annoys me.


And ironically, like Jennay, I used to hate Marat Safin, and now he is one of my fave players... :angel:

savesthedizzle
11-28-2004, 01:47 AM
:) I wonder who that was ;)


lol. I do not know, but whoever it was, opened my eyes to the wonderful world of Kiefer as well :worship:

knight_ley
11-28-2004, 01:53 AM
hehehee... hmm.... *looks around*... i think that one might be a bit obvious!

Havok
11-28-2004, 03:39 AM
Non applicable.

Leena
11-28-2004, 03:46 AM
Non applicable.
You have to be starting to like Tankic less. :p

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2004, 03:53 AM
So I am nobody :cool:
Me too :)

Ferrero Forever
11-28-2004, 04:00 AM
Roddick. I liked him when I knew him, he was really cool. Then I noticed how much of an asshole he really is.

Ferrero. His behavior vs Zib disappointed me big time.

I see where your coming from about Ferrero, but i felt sorry for him, because he was having such a hard time during that match, and if he was in good form it probably wouldn't have gone over 3 sets, so i don't blame him for getting angry, but he should have had more control over his actions, but i liked seeing him show a lot of emotion on the court, even if it was negative.

Ferrero Forever
11-28-2004, 04:04 AM
I used to like Ferrero, now I dont really care about him. I dunno why, I think he starting winning a lot and i just got bored of him.
That must have been a while ago, but you can go back to liking him now (only for a couple of months though) because he ain't winning very much any more :sad:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-28-2004, 04:36 AM
I admire you for supporting Juan so much even though he played so terrible during this year,Jaunqui Lover! :worship:

And players first impressions on me decide everything,I think I haven't obviously support someone and then don't like them now! :)

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2004, 05:33 AM
I liked Andy when he first was coming onto the scene. I started paying attention to him during RG Juniors his last year as a Junior because I was curious. Sort of like how I started with Nadal, although he was already in futures and challengers when I started following him. I even used to post on a Roddick yahoo club. I'm probably still a member there, come to think of it. He used to post in it, once in a blue moon. Some girl named "Jenn" ran it. Probably nobody knows what I'm talking about :p

Anyways, I tired of him after the extensive media coverage, usually at the expense of better matches. Not to mention the disgustingly biased commentary in his favour. His game isn't that pretty either, but if I didn't have to see it every round of every tournament he ever plays plus replays, I probably could have dealt with that.

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2004, 05:34 AM
^^I should add that the first mens tennis tournament I went to was Montreal 2001, and went to both his matches against Lapentti and Moya. I think that I even cheered for him over Moya :p

Leena
11-28-2004, 06:19 AM
I find it weird that you like going to yahoo groups, which are usually the home of n00bs. Well, that and anything to do with AOL.

LiZpHaIr
11-28-2004, 08:18 AM
Kafelnikov used to be my favorite player (about 2000-2001) but he started to do the whole "If I don't win this match or if I don't win this tournament I'm gonna retire" thing all the time and it really started to aggrivate me.

Ferrero Forever
11-28-2004, 08:44 AM
I admire you for supporting Juan so much even though he played so terrible during this year,Jaunqui Lover! :worship:

And players first impressions on me decide everything,I think I haven't obviously support someone and then don't like them now! :)

Thanks, and first impressions are important to me too, my decisions on most players are based on the matches i've seen them play, so if i only see one of their matches, then that decides if i like them or not, but i'm ashamed to say this, but i saw one of ferrero's matches in 2002 i think, and i thought to myself, this guy is nothing special. I wasn't really into tennis then so that could be the reason, and i don't even think i watched the whole match, i can't even remember who he was playing, but i really didn't care about him, then i saw him in the australian open this year, and need i say more :)

Shadow
11-28-2004, 11:07 AM
I thought Haas was a really nice player untill i met him in Germany... Good god, he was so arrogant and acted just like an asshole (not only to me, to everyone there). This was before hes injury break, maybe it's better now (i don't know) but i really can't stand him anymore.

yep, i had the same experience with him.

Action Jackson
03-04-2008, 01:58 AM
Bump

Wonder how many Federer fans will jump ship, now he isn't winning as much.

TankingTheSet
03-04-2008, 02:45 AM
I am checking every day to see when ClayBuzza (now Muzza = Fed Killer) will dump Federer and Nadal, I think the day is very near.

Merton
03-04-2008, 02:58 AM
With bandwagons it is Last In, First Out, those who were Roger's fans before 2003 will continue even when he is not winning slams any more. But I doubt we are there yet.

Sunset of Age
03-04-2008, 03:10 AM
I am checking every day to see when ClayBuzza (now Muzza = Fed Killer) will dump Federer and Nadal, I think the day is very near.

Let's make a bet on that day, my dear? :angel:

EDIT: why do you think so? I'd really like to hear that. :ras:

Snowwy
03-04-2008, 03:14 AM
I am checking every day to see when ClayBuzza (now Muzza = Fed Killer) will dump Federer and Nadal, I think the day is very near.

I dont think so, I disagree.

For me. Djokovic is one, I use to want him to win, but now that he is and hes a jerk, Im tired of it already. Also, Andreev.

TankingTheSet
03-04-2008, 03:26 AM
Let's make a bet on that day, my dear? :angel:

EDIT: why do you think so? I'd really like to hear that. :ras:

Well, I just thought it was no coincedence that you were a fan of these two players as they absolutely dominated men's tennis for the last few years. When they no longer are (and that time looks near), I thought you might move on and get on Muzza for example if he starts to be a top dog.

Sunset of Age
03-04-2008, 03:28 AM
Well, I just thought it was no coincedence that you were a fan of these two players as they absolutely dominated men's tennis for the last few years. When they no longer are (and that time looks near), I thought you might move on and get on Muzza for example if he starts to be a top dog.

I have to laugh. Fell in love with Rogi some seven years ago, and well, there appeared Rafa, some five years ago... and I just thought that both of them where truly lovely, and GREAT players just as much!

Hey, there are many other players whose games I truly admire just as much, but in the end... it's Rafa & Rogi for me, anytime, anywhere! :D

TankingTheSet
03-04-2008, 03:30 AM
I was also a bit of a fan of Andreev a few years ago, but he has lost most of his appeal. The guys hasn't reached a SF for two years!

TankingTheSet
03-04-2008, 03:33 AM
I have to laugh.
Hey, there are many other players who's games I truly admire just as much, but in the end... it's Rafa & Rogi for me, anytime, anywhere! :D

Of course I was a little bit sarcastic, you are allowed to dump them if you wish are maybe add Murray for a three-some :devil:

Sunset of Age
03-04-2008, 03:36 AM
Of course I was a little bit sarcastic, you are allowed to dump them if you wish are maybe add Murray for a three-some :devil:

:lol:

Got that alright.
No way. I admit I quite like Mr. Muzza, but never ever I'll choose him over my dearest Mr. R.N. or Mr. R.F. :D

joyk
03-04-2008, 06:20 AM
So I am nobody :cool:
Me too.

juninhOH
03-04-2008, 09:45 AM
well I like players based on their personality and also independant of their results. So I like a small number of players, but my favourite is Federer. He is disappointing me lately tho, not because of results but because of behaviour.

lucindia
03-04-2008, 09:54 AM
Based on personality :
I was a huge fan of the Duck....he's such a jerk now that i hate him!
I liked Tipsarevic a lot as well for years, but i had to deal with him during a tournament i'm working for....Such a big jerk as well...

Base on the game :
My biggest deception is Paul Henri Mathieu, i guess....He just hit the ball, not really a smart game...Same for Tursunov, i still like him, but don't enjoy that much watching him play anymore

scarecrows
03-04-2008, 10:34 AM
Now I must say that Federer is one of my favorite players because of a certain friend of mine that made me see the light...

lol

tripb19
03-04-2008, 10:39 AM
I used to like Djokovic at the start but he's a certified wanker, same with Blake, well he's not so much a wanker but his game is truly stupid.

I've gone the other way with Hewitt, used to hate him, kinda like him now.

adee-gee
03-04-2008, 10:50 AM
I used to be a big Federer fan but his recent behaviour has changed my opinion on him :(

scoobs
03-04-2008, 10:54 AM
I used to be a big Federer fan but his recent behaviour has changed my opinion on him :(
:lol:

savesthedizzle
03-04-2008, 01:29 PM
I used to like Roddick, right when he came out on the tour, I was a fan of his. And then the swarms of girls started obsessing over him and I got sucked into their world for a little while. Because of this I immediately disliked Federer for absolutely no reason besides jealousy. Now I must say that Federer is one of my favorite players because of a certain friend of mine that made me see the light... I don't particularly like Roddick anymore. His personality off the court really annoys me, and his game is not all that special.

:spit: !!!! :rolls: :rolls: My tennis likings 2004 and before were very strange. I cannot even defend this post.

elessar
03-04-2008, 01:35 PM
I used to be a big Federer fan but his recent behaviour has changed my opinion on him :(

Exactly the same, there are many thing I can tolerate but never attacks on my beautiful scot :inlove:(and this time I don't mean you Adam)

elessar
03-04-2008, 01:36 PM
:spit: !!!! :rolls: :rolls: My tennis likings 2004 and before were very strange. I cannot even defend this post.

I don't see any problem with it Jess :shrug:

Heavenseventeen
03-04-2008, 02:02 PM
-Roddick: I do still support him, but his play is starting to agitate me e.g. he seems to only be good at serving, so when that falls apart, he falls apart.

-Safin: I supported him against Hewitt in the AO final yrs ago, but now he seems to have given up so I gave up too. If he can't be bothered then why should I?

-Federer: Really liked, but he started winning practically EVERYTHING so I just got bored so if he does lose, it spices things up a bit. I do like him but things are more interesting if he loses.

-Robredo: He did that naked photo spread, and it wasn't a pretty sight...

rocketassist
03-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Liked Safin in 2002-04. Liked his game, still do if he played decent tennis. However, his fans piss me off and overrate him far higher than what he is.

Djokovic I was a big fan of when he burst on the scene, but gamesmanship and the rivalry with Murray (who I obviously support) has lessened it. I like him to beat Federer and Nadal, but he's not a top fave.

Roddick, liked his intensity and his FH (what it was once) but now his intensity just seems to be trying to intimidate the opponent and his FH is a crap loopy moonball shot.

The reverse applies to Hewitt and Gaudio, didn't like them at first, now they're ok, and Gaudio is great to watch and a cool guy.

bokehlicious
03-04-2008, 02:36 PM
I do like him but things are more interesting if he loses.


That makes sense :yeah: :lol:

Sunset of Age
03-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I used to be a big Federer fan but his recent behaviour has changed my opinion on him :(

:lol:

Burrow
03-04-2008, 02:52 PM
-Roddick: I do still support him, but his play is starting to agitate me e.g. he seems to only be good at serving, so when that falls apart, he falls apart.

-Safin: I supported him against Hewitt in the AO final yrs ago, but now he seems to have given up so I gave up too. If he can't be bothered then why should I?

-Federer: Really liked, but he started winning practically EVERYTHING so I just got bored so if he does lose, it spices things up a bit. I do like him but things are more interesting if he loses.

-Robredo: He did that naked photo spread, and it wasn't a pretty sight...

Safin has been injured you dick jockey. :lol:

cobalt60
03-04-2008, 03:00 PM
This was a fun read. And a Leena post.
As for me :angel: Things change;)

khyber
03-04-2008, 03:03 PM
Kiefer - even with all the whining and pouting I liked him until he threw that racket at Grosjean and never owned up to the deliberate interference.

Burrow
03-04-2008, 03:03 PM
I just like anybody from the 2004 and prior era these days, I think todays players are so bland.

nisha
03-04-2008, 08:09 PM
i used to like roddick
it was more a fancying thing im ashamed to say :o
so i started to get interested in tennis more and realised i was bored of his play, as i watched other players, the fast serves can only amaze you so much :rolleyes: esp when they isnt much else.
the super arrogance didnt help much too:rolleyes:

Jelena
03-04-2008, 10:39 PM
I was a huge Philippoussis fan, but when I experienced his father once at a tournament (though Mark acted super correct towards me in that moment) my support slowly decreased. Mark's constant injuries didn't really help to get again my concern again.

Andi-M
03-04-2008, 11:08 PM
Roddick - I used to love his fresh attitude,and personality,never was too excited by his game but i used to be able to sit through an A-Rod match no probs!

Since Connors really Ive been slowly going off him. He has one weapon which makes him dull to watch. His game hasn't progressed in the last 3 years its actually declined imo.

His attitude sucks now when he loses he acts like such a bigcry baby its almost embarrassing.

Ferrero Forever
03-05-2008, 05:51 AM
-Robredo: He did that naked photo spread, and it wasn't a pretty sight...

Sorry, but you're blind!

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 03:10 AM
I was also a bit of a fan of Andreev a few years ago, but he has lost most of his appeal. The guys hasn't reached a SF for two years!

He made the semis in Gstaad last year losing to Seppi in a 3rd set TB.

leng jai
04-17-2008, 03:32 AM
I used to be a Haas fan, but since Clown Death has enlightened me about double handed backhands I've realised that Haas is useless.

helgagonzalez
04-17-2008, 12:34 PM
i used to support djokovic, but not anymore... :banghead:

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 12:35 PM
Safin. Used to love him, now I doubt he can win 2 matches in a row.

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 12:36 PM
Roddick - I used to love his fresh attitude,and personality,never was too excited by his game but i used to be able to sit through an A-Rod match no probs!

Since Connors really Ive been slowly going off him. He has one weapon which makes him dull to watch. His game hasn't progressed in the last 3 years its actually declined imo.

His attitude sucks now when he loses he acts like such a bigcry baby its almost embarrassing.
That is completely wrong.

The Pro
04-17-2008, 01:02 PM
Normally I dislike players and then warm to them.

I didn't like Hewitt but now I feel that the dumbass is a little persecuted. He seems alright.

However I used to think RodDick was funny, but now I'm just tired of his whole attitude. And GimelGob's whole fratboy hero worship of him is just nauseating. Ick. Like when he called Gasguet the anti-roddick. Oh puke. So his buddy's his frame of reference for other players? Riiight.

I used to find Djokervic tollerable, but now when he's on the TV I just want to throw food and faeces at him. :mad:

jasmin
04-17-2008, 01:05 PM
I use to love Roddick. I use to go to bat for him when people thought he was stuck up. I just thought he was just really excited and enjoyed the fans. I didn't really notice his one sided game and didn't care if he lost. Then as he got older he seem angry. He seemed a little bitter. I don't if it's because he started losing more, Nadal became the #2 or thought his game was just as good or close to someone like Federer.

Djokovic seem cool at first but now....

Burrow
04-17-2008, 01:15 PM
Safin. Used to love him, now I doubt he can win 2 matches in a row.

Why is that? Maybe cause he suffered a serious knee injury in 2005 which has ruined his career?

:rolls: What a noob.

leng jai
04-17-2008, 01:16 PM
Why is that? Maybe cause he suffered a serious knee injury in 2005 which has ruined his career?

:rolls: What a noob.

No need to have a cry everytime anyone says something negative about Safin.

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 01:20 PM
Why is that? Maybe cause he suffered a serious knee injury in 2005 which has ruined his career?

:rolls: What a noob.
I've followed Safin since 2000. :wavey:

scarecrows
04-17-2008, 01:31 PM
I've followed Safin since 2000. :wavey:

and this is why you shouldnt stop supporting him only because he's not winning matches

Burrow
04-17-2008, 01:31 PM
Yes, even more to my point. You followed him all those years where he played good, then threw him to the kerb after he gets injured.

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 01:33 PM
and this is why you shouldnt stop supporting him only because he's not winning matches
I still watch his matches and I'm still disappointed when he loses, I just don't have the dedication and support for him anymore.

Yes, even more to my point. You followed him all those years where he played good, then threw him to the kerb after he gets injured.
I still support him, I don't say "SAFIN SUCKS", I want him to win matches.. he just can't do it.

Burrow
04-17-2008, 01:35 PM
So because he doesn't win you don't support him as much, cool. :wavey:

Safin, Verkerk and Puerta are still among my favourite players, once I become attached to a player I can't just throw them to the kerb if they start losing, I am not a glory seeker.

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 01:42 PM
I've followed Safin since 2000. :wavey:

Cheer for Federer, Nadal and Djokovic then, if winning matches was the sole reason.

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 01:48 PM
So because he doesn't win you don't support him as much, cool. :wavey:

Safin, Verkerk and Puerta are still among my favourite players, once I become attached to a player I can't just throw them to the kerb if they start losing, I am not a glory seeker.
No, I support him a lot, I want him to beat ever player he comes up against, especially Federer, but I just don't see it happening.

stebs
04-17-2008, 02:10 PM
So funny seeing all these elitists getting all angry about when ditching players because they start losing. I mean I don't do it myself but we watch sport to enjoy ourselves, if someone wants to watch high quality tennis why shouldn't they watch the top players? Yes there is better tennis on display there so if that's your aim it's those guys you should be watching. I mean I am no fan of Nalbandian but when he's playing good I love to watch the guy because he can play amazing tennis.

I don't see why someone should be criticised if they used to enjoy watching Safin when he could play great stuff but now that many of his matches are UE fests they find their fun elsewhere. I mean obviously there is a difference between supporting someone because they are winning and because they are playing great tennis but the result is the same because great tennis = great results.

My opinion on this subject is that I don't think I ever fully lose my support for a player but it will grow and shrink depending on a variety of things. It is hard to support a player when you see them play tennis once a year for example.

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 02:18 PM
Not a question of elitism at all stebney. I am not going to stop supporting a player, just because they are losing more than they used to, that's just weak. If they have been personally rude to you, then I can understand why a person would stop supporting them or other behavioural patterns might piss off an individual.

To stop supporting them because of their results, that is a form of bandwagoning, he is losing, therefore is crap. I am not going to support them.

Puschkin
04-17-2008, 02:22 PM
To stop supporting them because of their results, that is a form bandwagoning, he is losing, therefore is crap.

:yeah:

Jimnik
04-17-2008, 02:25 PM
I don't think it's happened to me yet. Loyalty is a virtue. :angel:

martine2
04-17-2008, 02:25 PM
So funny seeing all these elitists getting all angry about when ditching players because they start losing. I mean I don't do it myself but we watch sport to enjoy ourselves, if someone wants to watch high quality tennis why shouldn't they watch the top players? Yes there is better tennis on display there so if that's your aim it's those guys you should be watching. I mean I am no fan of Nalbandian but when he's playing good I love to watch the guy because he can play amazing tennis.



True, but there is a difference in watching a player and supporting him.
I also like to watch good players even when I don't like them that much as a person.

But supporting them needs other reasons then results (and no, I don't mean looks :p )

stebs
04-17-2008, 02:29 PM
I am not going to stop supporting a player, just because they are losing more than they used to, that's just weak.
That you are not going to stop supporting a player that's fine but what does it matter to you if someone else does?

To stop supporting them because of their results, that is a form of bandwagoning, he is losing, therefore is crap. I am not going to support them.
He is losing therefore he is crap, yes maybe I can see why that is off but look at it this way:

Man X enjoys watching great tennis
Player Y begins to play great tennis
Man X begins to enjoy Player Y
Man X develops support for Player Y
Player Y begins to decline
Player Y no longer plays good tennis

Why should Man X continue to support player Y? The reason he was enjoying watching and supporting him was the good tennis nothing else and since that is gone why should he feel a need to give support to something he no longer enjoys? Yes, some of us make bonds with players that go further than the tennis such as enjoying their interviews or whatever but some of us don't.

stebs
04-17-2008, 02:30 PM
True, but there is a difference in watching a player and supporting him.
I also like to watch good players even when I don't like them that much as a person.

Watching a player a lot often is how we develop support for a player. Yes there is a difference and I watch Nadal matches often and don't support him but there is certainly a correlation there.

stebs
04-17-2008, 02:39 PM
All I am trying to say is that most of us are watching tennis to enjoy it and as far as I am concerned people can support who they want, when they want, why they want. There may be a few exceptions but basically watching tennis is recreation, it is not our job to support these guys.

You can enjoy sticking by your player from start to finish and that's fine, I tend toward that way of doing things myself. There is just no need to look down on bandwagoners, do you think you are superior to them because you have greater loyalty to sports stars?

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 02:43 PM
That you are not going to stop supporting a player that's fine but what does it matter to you if someone else does?

It's pretty simple actually. Anyone can support a player when they are doing well, it's when they are being criticised or lacking form either mentally or coming back from injury, when they really need the support from fans.

I don't like bandwagoners or fairweather fans in any context.

He is losing therefore he is crap, yes maybe I can see why that is off but look at it this way:

Man X enjoys watching great tennis
Player Y begins to play great tennis
Man X begins to enjoy Player Y
Man X develops support for Player Y
Player Y begins to decline
Player Y no longer plays good tennis

Why should Man X continue to support player Y? The reason he was enjoying watching and supporting him was the good tennis nothing else and since that is gone why should he feel a need to give support to something he no longer enjoys? Yes, some of us make bonds with players that go further than the tennis such as enjoying their interviews or whatever but some of us don't.

This means you were never a fan of the particular player in the first place. It's really not that hard to fathom. Coria at his peak, I liked his tennis, but didn't like him. There is an example of appreciating someone's tennis and not liking the individual.

Example. After what happened to Gaudio in Malaga with the 2003 Davis Cup, when he played very poorly and got roundly criticised by the press. Laughed at in the street, booed by his own public. Because he choked some matches away and didn't win before, and then had that negative experience in Malaga. I should have stopped supporting him?

Why, should I have done that? Because he was struggling at the time, he wasn't winning, he was having mental and motivational problems. No, not good enough reasons to stop supporting the guy. The case is still the same now, since his career is in decline, until he retires I am not going to stop cheering him on, irrespective of result.

It's not a question of a bond, just the fact that is feeble to bandwagon, because the wins aren't coming for that respective player.

jhappy
04-17-2008, 02:49 PM
based on game-Nalbandian, Gonzo and Blake. I'm iffy on Tipsarevic. There are parts of his game I don't like and yes,lucindia sometimes he is a jerk. Normally a wonderful guy, I've seen Tipsy be a bad boy a few times and not in a nice way;) But eh, I've noticed he's usually a ass when someone is being rude to him. Not saying that was the case with you but... this lady was telling him off for insulting tennis with his tatts and piercings so he gave her the finger and stalked off glaring at anybody who saw that spectacle.

Boarder35m
04-17-2008, 02:49 PM
That you are not going to stop supporting a player that's fine but what does it matter to you if someone else does?


He is losing therefore he is crap, yes maybe I can see why that is off but look at it this way:

Man X enjoys watching great tennis
Player Y begins to play great tennis
Man X begins to enjoy Player Y
Man X develops support for Player Y
Player Y begins to decline
Player Y no longer plays good tennis

Why should Man X continue to support player Y? The reason he was enjoying watching and supporting him was the good tennis nothing else and since that is gone why should he feel a need to give support to something he no longer enjoys? Yes, some of us make bonds with players that go further than the tennis such as enjoying their interviews or whatever but some of us don't.

I would agree to you! To be a fan of a tennis player means following his or her actons around the world. But only if he or she plays really good you are able to see him or her. Like when the tennis player plays in America, you can only see the matches when a certain number of people will turn on the TV.

I guess being a soccer or basketball-fan and committing to a team is much easier than commmitting to a tennis player. The teams will play at their local stadiums were you can watch them, even if they play very bad. They might fall to a lower league but you can allways see them at their stadium. But the average tennis fan will have problems to even see some matches of his favourite tennis player if he looses for some times and falls in the ranking. A lot of minor atp tournaments and a lot of challenger tournaments don´t have tv coverage so you can´t see your favourite player. Maybe you don´t hear from your favourite for a while and you´ve got nowhere to go to to see him or her.

Of course you are happy when he or she recovers in the ranking but as long as you can´t see him or her play, it is quite difficult to stay a tennis fan from a certain player during periods of weakness.

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 02:49 PM
You can enjoy sticking by your player from start to finish and that's fine, I tend toward that way of doing things myself. There is just no need to look down on bandwagoners, do you think you are superior to them because you have greater loyalty to sports stars?

I am sorry call me old fashioned, but I tend to have a greater respect for people who are loyal in general and aren't influenced by the latest fad.

Bernard Black
04-17-2008, 03:01 PM
All I am trying to say is that most of us are watching tennis to enjoy it and as far as I am concerned people can support who they want, when they want, why they want. There may be a few exceptions but basically watching tennis is recreation, it is not our job to support these guys.

You can enjoy sticking by your player from start to finish and that's fine, I tend toward that way of doing things myself. There is just no need to look down on bandwagoners, do you think you are superior to them because you have greater loyalty to sports stars?

I can see the point you're trying to make, but there is a difference between enjoying someone's tennis and supporting them.

Let's apply this to football. I enjoy watching, say, Brazil play, because they play such attractive football. However I support England, despite their often ugly football and not even qualifying for this summer's European Cup. I do so out of pure loyalty.

Do you see the difference?

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 03:04 PM
I can see the point you're trying to make, but there is a difference between enjoying someone's tennis and supporting them.

Let's apply this to football. I enjoy watching, say, Brazil play, because they play such attractive football. However I support England, despite their often ugly football and not even qualifying for this summer's European Cup. I do so out of pure loyalty.

Do you see the difference?

It would be like the Liverpool fans of the 80s, changing over to Man Utd in the 90s, because they became the dominant and best team.

BIGMARAT
04-17-2008, 03:47 PM
Blake- I think I already saw the best of him and he wont win a slam!

Gasquet- He's attitude is in question.

Federer- Cuz I love Nole now.

arm
04-17-2008, 03:56 PM
Blake- I think I already saw the best of him and he wont win a slam!

Gasquet- He's attitude is in question.

Federer- Cuz I love Nole now.

I do understand your reasonf for "loving" djokovic, as I like him too. However, you didn't have to stop liking Federer. No reason for that. The same person can be a fan of both players.


In my case, Murray. I used to like him, But, I dont know why, now I just cant stand him.

stebs
04-17-2008, 04:12 PM
I can see the point you're trying to make, but there is a difference between enjoying someone's tennis and supporting them.

Let's apply this to football. I enjoy watching, say, Brazil play, because they play such attractive football. However I support England, despite their often ugly football and not even qualifying for this summer's European Cup. I do so out of pure loyalty.

Do you see the difference?

Perhaps so but football and tennis shouldn't be compared when it comes to fandom. In football where you come from tends to be who you support and I would say loyalty is far more important.

In tennis nationalism is far less important apart from DC and people support guys from all over. That being the case, support often derives from enjoyment of a players game. Also, differences in playing style are FAR more defined in tennis, it is easy to see from one match how a player plays for the most part whereas with football it's harder to quantify.

stebs
04-17-2008, 04:22 PM
I tend to have a greater respect for people who are loyal in general and aren't influenced by the latest fad.

You hold your respect for people who are loyal in general, that's fine. I don't think someone being a fairweather fan has any correlation with being a loyal person in general apart from the fact that young people tend to be more likely to hop on bandwagons.

How about I put a new spin on things, this is something you posted earlier in argument against my example of someone liking the tennis a player was playing:

This means you were never a fan of the particular player in the first place. It's really not that hard to fathom. Coria at his peak, I liked his tennis, but didn't like him. There is an example of appreciating someone's tennis and not liking the individual.

Okay, so they were never a fan of the player. The player was simply the medium through which the tennis was enjoyed. Simply put, the player was the face through which the tennis could be supported. So when that tennis isn't being played, what's to support? Yes you can like a guys tennis and be indifferent to the individual but still support the player because the tennis they are playing is the tennis you would like to see triumph.

I will say this again; people can support who they want, when they want, why they want. It doesn't make a difference of have an effect on you. I can see where you are coming from but realistically there is no actual reason behind your ridiculing of bandwagoners. Furthermore, bandwagons usually form during a great run and new fans get slaughtered by you and others for being such bandwagoners. Well of course you are going to get new fans at these times, this is when people are getting the most exposure and there is a chance to see them playing well which is attractive from the point of view of tennis. I jumped on the Baghdatis bandwagon during AO '06 because it was the first time I had seen him, do you have a problem with that? Is it my fault none of his previous tournaments had been broadcast for me to watch or that I enjoyed watching him?

FerrersLinda
04-17-2008, 04:22 PM
I don't see why someone should be criticised if they used to enjoy watching Safin when he could play great stuff but now that many of his matches are UE fests they find their fun elsewhere. I mean obviously there is a difference between supporting someone because they are winning and because they are playing great tennis but the result is the same because great tennis = great results.

:yeah:

I love Marat and I do still support him but I have to say his attitude at times is getting on my nerves so I'm hanging on with the tips of my nails atm. The last say 6 matches I've witnessed of him just made me want to smack him.:shrug:

FluffyYellowBall
04-17-2008, 04:36 PM
I think Djokovic is one of the players who has lost fans as fast as he gained them. He used to be one of my favorites but its not the same now. I dont hate any players. I just dislike him now that he knows he has the "power" to get anything. And he admits that so i dont like him very much.

platinum
04-17-2008, 04:50 PM
I used to be a Djokovic fan, not anymore. :eek:

Alex999
04-17-2008, 05:05 PM
I used to be a Djokovic fan, not anymore. :eek:
lies, you still like Djoko :)

Burrow
04-17-2008, 05:10 PM
lies, you still like Djoko :)

He said Djokovic, not Djoko.

Slasher
04-17-2008, 05:13 PM
I used to like Andy Roddick.

haha kidding, I never liked Roddick.

stebs
04-17-2008, 05:17 PM
He said Djokovic, not Djoko.

What is your issue with people using nicknames? I see you constantly posting about it when really it doesn't matter.

maria_marie
04-17-2008, 05:34 PM
I used to like
-roddick
-ferrero
-gasquet
-djoko to a certain extend

but now I really don't

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 06:28 PM
I've always hated Djokovic.

Gldngrl
04-17-2008, 06:42 PM
I used to like Malisse for his pretty shotmaking abilities, but one year at IW he was extremely rude to a ballgirl and it put me off him. Started out hating Hewitt, and still donít really support him, but how can you not love a guy who fights with all heís got. Blake seems like a nice guy, but something about his on-court mannerisms makes my stomach turn. Plus, he seems one-dimensional. He was much more tolerable with the dreads. Tried and tried to support Davenport, but jeez she gets down on herself and itís so unappealing. I love to see positive attitude out there. Clijsters was another I liked watching and supporting, but got nauseated with her uncanny ability to choke in finals. And I resented Nadal when he burst on the scene and began dominating on clay, because I was still hoping for Kuertenís return. Now I can't get enough:D

FluffyYellowBall
04-17-2008, 11:38 PM
I used to like Malisse for his pretty shotmaking abilities, but one year at IW he was extremely rude to a ballgirl and it put me off him. Started out hating Hewitt, and still donít really support him, but how can you not love a guy who fights with all heís got. Blake seems like a nice guy, but something about his on-court mannerisms makes my stomach turn. Plus, he seems one-dimensional. He was much more tolerable with the dreads. Tried and tried to support Davenport, but jeez she gets down on herself and itís so unappealing. I love to see positive attitude out there. Clijsters was another I liked watching and supporting, but got nauseated with her uncanny ability to choke in finals. And I resented Nadal when he burst on the scene and began dominating on clay, because I was still hoping for Kuertenís return. Now I can't get enough:D

I have the same reasons u have that make me like/dislike a player.
When theyre rude to ball kids or umpires that just makes me dislike them straight away. I used to like Melzer and in IW this year he got a bad call, lost the match and had a loooong convo with the lineswoman. Get over yourself. You lost the match.

I dont like players who dont fight. Thats y i dislike Djokovic. When hes not in the mood he just hangs his head down and its not fun to watch. I liked Clijsters but i feel she could have fought more at the end of her career.

Hewitt..Ive only started him when he played Nadal in AO 07(i think it was 07) and he smiled a lot in that match. I think he chooses to be nice when he likes his opponents!

Tursunov really disgusted me when he didnt shake Lahyanis hand. I dont like him as much as i did. Especially Lahyani out of all people!
I never disliked Nadal or Federer or Baghdatis. And i will never dislike them!

How players conduct themselves in interviews also tells A LOT about them. You can tell when theyre TRYING to be nice :rolleyes:

Acer
04-17-2008, 11:59 PM
... and not even qualifying for this summer's European Cup.

Ugh : (

To answer the question, I've followed Djokovic even since the 2005 FO when he to retire against Coria... up until this year.

Lee
04-18-2008, 12:33 AM
So funny seeing all these elitists getting all angry about when ditching players because they start losing. I mean I don't do it myself but we watch sport to enjoy ourselves, if someone wants to watch high quality tennis why shouldn't they watch the top players? Yes there is better tennis on display there so if that's your aim it's those guys you should be watching. I mean I am no fan of Nalbandian but when he's playing good I love to watch the guy because he can play amazing tennis.

I don't see why someone should be criticised if they used to enjoy watching Safin when he could play great stuff but now that many of his matches are UE fests they find their fun elsewhere. I mean obviously there is a difference between supporting someone because they are winning and because they are playing great tennis but the result is the same because great tennis = great results.

My opinion on this subject is that I don't think I ever fully lose my support for a player but it will grow and shrink depending on a variety of things. It is hard to support a player when you see them play tennis once a year for example.

I agree with most of your points here but I have to disagree with the bold part. I hardly see Guga play for most of his career and he hardly played for the last few years but I still support him, a lot.

stebs
04-18-2008, 11:07 AM
I agree with most of your points here but I have to disagree with the bold part. I hardly see Guga play for most of his career and he hardly played for the last few years but I still support him, a lot.

I kind of mean with a player who languishes for an entire career between 75-100 in the rankings and you only see them once a year EVERY year. With Guga you have seen him often in the past and developed a strong tie to that player which has never broken.

Action Jackson
04-18-2008, 11:12 AM
I kind of mean with a player who languishes for an entire career between 75-100 in the rankings and you only see them once a year EVERY year. With Guga you have seen him often in the past and developed a strong tie to that player which has never broken.

For you maybe, but not really. It's just easier now than it was previously to follow them with the technological advancements.

Action Jackson
04-18-2008, 11:46 AM
You hold your respect for people who are loyal in general, that's fine. I don't think someone being a fairweather fan has any correlation with being a loyal person in general apart from the fact that young people tend to be more likely to hop on bandwagons.

It pretty much means that they aren't going to stick around, when times are difficult for these players. Fan loyalty is important in any sport, not just football.

In other words I don't have my define own being and time on this planet, by whether a players result are favourable or not.

Okay, so they were never a fan of the player. The player was simply the medium through which the tennis was enjoyed. Simply put, the player was the face through which the tennis could be supported. So when that tennis isn't being played, what's to support? Yes you can like a guys tennis and be indifferent to the individual but still support the player because the tennis they are playing is the tennis you would like to see triumph.

Then the whole to be a winner, it must be important to support one philosphy kicks in.

I will say this again; people can support who they want, when they want, why they want. It doesn't make a difference of have an effect on you. I can see where you are coming from but realistically there is no actual reason behind your ridiculing of bandwagoners. Furthermore, bandwagons usually form during a great run and new fans get slaughtered by you and others for being such bandwagoners. Well of course you are going to get new fans at these times, this is when people are getting the most exposure and there is a chance to see them playing well which is attractive from the point of view of tennis. I jumped on the Baghdatis bandwagon during AO '06 because it was the first time I had seen him, do you have a problem with that? Is it my fault none of his previous tournaments had been broadcast for me to watch or that I enjoyed watching him?

I have my reasons for ridiculing bandwagoners and will continue to do so, yes it's an easy target. I don't appreciate people coming along for the ride and proclaiming fandom when going well, then jump off because there are more losses. The second sentence is the key right there and addresses the point about joining bandwagons.

So do you not cheer for Baghdatis now, he isn't the fresh face and hasn't won or made a GS final again?

Then there is other side of it, the over the top, hypersensitive, obsessive freaks which are scary in their own way.

Did you see the Gaudio example I posted before, as an example not to desert a player, when things are going well. If you did, then you will realise why and a significant amount of people have no time or contempt for bandwagoners. Malaga 2003 Gaudio was a dickhead, loser, disgrace, mocked and then he wins RG 2004 all of a sudden he is a hero and many of these same idiots where the ones that were giving him crap just a few months before.

Another example of it. Kieran Perkins the Aussie 1500m swimmer, who was in very poor form before 96 Olympics, he wasn't best Aussie anymore, his time had passed. Just makes the final, but even then it's like he won't win it. Comes out and wins the gold, the same bandwagoners that were telling him to retire, get lost, all of a sudden love the guy again because he won.

Two examples of classic bandwagoning at its best, which deserve to be ridiculed.

stebs
04-18-2008, 11:47 AM
For you maybe, but not really. It's just easier now than it was previously to follow them with the technological advancements.

So you don't think it makes a difference whether you can watch someone play 50 times a year or just once? I am a fan of Gabashvili for sure and that will remain the truth bu I haven't watched him hit a ball since his defeat to Federer at Wimbledon last year. I have followed his results and I still wish him well but it makes a big difference.

stebs
04-18-2008, 11:54 AM
Then the whole to be a winner, it must be important to support one philosphy kicks in.

I don't understand what you are saying here, sorry.

I have my reasons for ridiculing bandwagoners and will continue to do so, yes it's an easy target.
:shrug: I do think it's childish to do so and it is a form of elitism but it's for you to decide what to do.

So do you not cheer for Baghdatis now, he isn't the fresh face and hasn't won or made a GS final again?
I still cheer for Baghdatis now.

Did you see the Gaudio example I posted before, as an example not to desert a player, when things are going well. If you did, then you will realise why and a significant amount of people have no time or contempt for bandwagoners. Malaga 2003 Gaudio was a dickhead, loser, disgrace, mocked and then he wins RG 2004 all of a sudden he is a hero and many of these same idiots where the ones that were giving him crap just a few months before.
Here is one place we can agree. There is a huge difference between gradually losing your support for a player because his best tennis is in the past and losing your suppiort because of one bad performance.

Two examples of classic bandwagoning at its best, which deserve to be ridiculed.
Why? What enjoyment are you getting out of being rude to these people because of who they choose to support, who they choose to watch etc... If someone is ridiculing a player they supported previously because of a bad performance ala Gaudio example then fine but if someone just started supporting a player when he started being more succesful then it's just you being rude and nasty for the sake of it basically.

Ferrero Forever
04-18-2008, 11:56 AM
PMK is innocent is so right here. I live in Australia, we get virtually no coverage. I see Ferrero on TV about once a year if i'm lucky, yet bloody hell theres more to supporting a player than how often you can watch them on TV or see them live. I get excited logging into the ATP site as soon as I wake up to see if Ferrero won during the night. And I enjoy the satisfation on the rare occasions the score is pleasing, but the disappointment is also necessary. There is no point supporting a player if they win all the time, it takes the fun out of it. Most of my fave players have confirmed for me that I've chosen the right player to support by being really lovely when I've met them, but I can understand that sometimes theres an asshole that you've supported and you might change your mind. I did that with Coria. I couldn't bring myself to keep supporting him after I saw him disappoint so many kids.

I suppose everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but thats my 2 cents

stebs
04-18-2008, 12:04 PM
PMK is innocent is so right here. I live in Australia, we get virtually no coverage. I see Ferrero on TV about once a year if i'm lucky, yet bloody hell theres more to supporting a player than how often you can watch them on TV or see them live. I get excited logging into the ATP site as soon as I wake up to see if Ferrero won during the night. And I enjoy the satisfation on the rare occasions the score is pleasing, but the disappointment is also necessary. There is no point supporting a player if they win all the time, it takes the fun out of it. Most of my fave players have confirmed for me that I've chosen the right player to support by being really lovely when I've met them, but I can understand that sometimes theres an asshole that you've supported and you might change your mind. I did that with Coria. I couldn't bring myself to keep supporting him after I saw him disappoint so many kids.
Different strokes for different folks. I think this is a fine opinion to have. I just don't think that there is a need to insult people who do things differently.

krystlel
04-18-2008, 12:06 PM
But I think GWH reads too much into the bandwagoning. There's a difference between being a fan and enjoying a player when they play well. There are a large number of players that I like to watch when they play well but I don't consider myself a fan. Naturally people get excited and interested by the good level of play and it's always nice to see someone to do well when you know that it's not often that they achieve that level of results. The worst thing about the bandwagoning are the prediction threads that take place, but the enthusiasm in general is okay. I wouldn't consider them fans in the first place, but that doesn't make them bad fans, that makes them not very big fans.

Ferrero Forever
04-18-2008, 12:10 PM
But I think GWH reads too much into the bandwagoning. There's a difference between being a fan and enjoying a player when they play well. There are a large number of players that I like to watch when they play well but I don't consider myself a fan. Naturally people get excited and interested by the good level of play and it's always nice to see someone to do well when you know that it's not often that they achieve that level of results. Sure some people go overboard with the predictions, but the enthusiasm in general is okay. I wouldn't consider them fans in the first place, but that doesn't make them bad fans, that makes them not very big fans.

Yeah thats a good point. It's possible to enjoy tennis without liking the players. I can enjoy watching Hewitt's lob for example, but I'm never going to be a fan. I just thought this thread was more about fans changing their minds about supporting a player, not just casually enjoying a player who's playing well for the moment.

krystlel
04-18-2008, 12:12 PM
Yeah thats a good point. It's possible to enjoy tennis without liking the players. I can enjoy watching Hewitt's lob for example, but I'm never going to be a fan. I just thought this thread was more about fans changing their minds about supporting a player, not just casually enjoying a player who's playing well for the moment.
Yes, I agree if you supported a player and changed your mind then that is dumb. I can see how your interest might lessen slightly from time to time but can't see how they could move that far down from your favourites list.

Action Jackson
04-18-2008, 12:29 PM
So you don't think it makes a difference whether you can watch someone play 50 times a year or just once? I am a fan of Gabashvili for sure and that will remain the truth bu I haven't watched him hit a ball since his defeat to Federer at Wimbledon last year. I have followed his results and I still wish him well but it makes a big difference.

Well I did watch tennis before the internet came around, it was a lot harder to follow. I was lucky that I was able to have excellent coverage of small events, so I was able to see players, find out what ones I liked and the ones I didn't.

Once I established that, then I did what I can to follow their results and used as many resources as possible. Guess what it didn't change my perception either way, even if I didn't get the events they were playing.

I don't understand what you are saying here, sorry.

Bandwagoning supporting winners for the sake of it. Changing from Liverpool in the 80s to Man Utd in the 90s.

Here is one place we can agree. There is a huge difference between gradually losing your support for a player because his best tennis is in the past and losing your suppiort because of one bad performance.

His performances were shit before and they were pretty much shit for the 7 months after Malaga, so that lead to the lessoning fans who didn't want to know because he was sucking. All changed after RG.

Why? What enjoyment are you getting out of being rude to these people because of who they choose to support, who they choose to watch etc... If someone is ridiculing a player they supported previously because of a bad performance ala Gaudio example then fine but if someone just started supporting a player when he started being more succesful then it's just you being rude and nasty for the sake of it basically.

Like I said, if they join once a player had a big event and got noticed, then that's fine, but don't get off that horse, because he is losing.

I actually don't care who people support, they can choose whoever they like, but don't be so feeble minded to get off, because they aren't winning as much.

chris.chan92
04-18-2008, 12:32 PM
I think Mark Phillipousis. U now why. No need for explanation.

Kristen
04-18-2008, 01:38 PM
Well I did watch tennis before the internet came around, it was a lot harder to follow.WOW!!! You must be like 100 years old! :p

Hmm let me think. I don't dislike the guy because of it as it involves two guys I like. However, when I heard 'PLAYER A' thought 'PLAYER B' was a bit of a 'mamas boy', it actually ticked me off more about PLAYER A. I just thought, who are you to make that kind of judgement. Having said that, I have seen 'A' at 'Bs' matches from time to time, but maybe he was cheering the opponent *ooooh* snickers.

I can understand why people would go off a player, if for example the player is Pashanski, [in his case I have fond memories of him, though his comments were way out of line - but he was never a favourite anyway].

wow Chris Chan...you un-fan Mark so much that you mess up his name really well :p;)

Henry Chinaski
04-18-2008, 01:47 PM
Sometimes I like a player because I feel they've got a lot of talent but haven't really lived up to their potential. Once they get the results I felt they were capable of I might not care as much then.
Gonzalez is an example of this. I still like the guy but don't care as much as I did pre Aus Open 2007.

And I have to admit that winning me a lot of money and then losing me a lot of money can sometimes have an impact too.

Lee
04-18-2008, 04:21 PM
I kind of mean with a player who languishes for an entire career between 75-100 in the rankings and you only see them once a year EVERY year. With Guga you have seen him often in the past and developed a strong tie to that player which has never broken.

I started following Almagro when he's in the 75-100 rankings. Even now he's at a higher ranking, I still can't see him play unless he draws a US player. So, I don't have the chance to watch him for an average of once/year. :shrug:

Anyway, I think it's just different for different people.

And for bandwagoners, as long as they silently leave the bandwagons when players are not performing well, I don't really care.

Snowwy
04-18-2008, 04:27 PM
Djokovic..his fans :retard:
Baghdatis..his fans :retard:
Canas..doper :retard:

maria_marie
04-18-2008, 04:27 PM
Yes, I agree if you supported a player and changed your mind then that is dumb. I can see how your interest might lessen slightly from time to time but can't see how they could move that far down from your favourites list.

it's kinda easy-one unsportsmanlike action (Roddick swearing at Tsonga fist round of AO 2007), Gasquet's lack of ability to live up to his potential and about Novak-let's just say I didn't really know what hw was like and now that I know I don't like it

FiBeR
04-18-2008, 06:03 PM
Djokovic..his fans :retard:
Baghdatis..his fans :retard:
Canas..doper :retard:

I used to like snowwy.. until this post :angel:

*snowflake*
04-18-2008, 06:08 PM
Baghdatis - I was reading his AO blog and didn't like the person who wrote it at all; then came the whole "patriotic hoopla"...

Tsonga - His genuine moments of happyness on court have turned into frantic antics probably inspired by the lookalike Ali. It's disappointing how sheding a lil more light on a person can easily push them over the confident line to annoyingly cocky...

The Pro
04-19-2008, 09:54 AM
I never read Baghdatis' blog. Why didn't you like it? :confused:

Rumour
04-19-2008, 12:30 PM
My feelings about a player are often based almost entirely on their play and behaviour on the court, not off it. Since I've never been to a live tennis tournament or personally met any pro (and probably won't in future unless my present circumstances change), that's not likely to ever be a significant factor for me. Also, though I generally follow the circuit gossip here and pop into player forums once in a while, I rarely go out of my way to follow the off-court activities or personal lives of even my favourites. (Usually it's the side result of me searching online for a match report/score or avatar/interesting picture).

So to me, suddenly disliking a player one used to enjoy watching and following on the tennis court after meeting him in person is not much different from not liking him because he is no longer winning. If it was the quality and style of play along with his on-court personality that drew someone to a specific player, why should one brief personal encounter override all the other factors that sparked the initial attraction? Maybe it is because I grew up in a place where the chance of ever meeting any of the celebrities I liked was remote that I tend to draw a stronger boundary between what they do when they're performing vs. when they are not.

Also, I don't agree that a player's recent match results or record being a factor in an observer's reduced liking for him automatically makes one a bandwagon or fairweather fan. If he or she liked Federer, for example, only or mainly because of his phenomenal winning record over the last few years and is now ready to jump ship just because he hasn't won a tournament yet this year then yes, I agree. However, if someone's admiration for him has faded based on a combination of factors that one believes have caused or contributed to his losses e.g. changed on-court style/tactics, lack of a coach (until recently), off-court distractions etc. then that is an entirely different and more understandable situation in my view.

zicofirol
04-19-2008, 01:10 PM
massu, cause ive seen him in 3 or 4 tournaments and he acts like a bigger asshole everytime...

platinum
04-19-2008, 01:16 PM
lies, you still like Djoko :)

No, I don't. Djokovic biting the IW trophy was what made me stop being his fan. :rolleyes:

finishingmove
04-19-2008, 01:40 PM
No, I don't. Djokovic biting the IW trophy was what made me stop being his fan. :rolleyes:

:confused:

? <=> ?

elessar
04-19-2008, 01:41 PM
:confused:

? <=> ?

Plantinum is a troll, never expect anything she/he says to make sense

l_mac
04-19-2008, 02:02 PM
It's never happened to me. I'm very loyal.

Nalbandian is testing this though. :mad: :retard:

*snowflake*
04-19-2008, 07:40 PM
I never read Baghdatis' blog. Why didn't you like it? :confused:

Just the way he was talking about his opponents, relationships with ppl and stuff like that. The whole thing threw me off and i used to really like him :shrug:

arm
04-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Just the way he was talking about his opponents, relationships with ppl and stuff like that. The whole thing threw me off and i used to really like him :shrug:

that's awkward.

I, myself, dont like the "messages" federer leaves to his fans in his website. The news and all that stuff that is writen in the 1st person. But I dont actually think he is the one who writes it so..

*snowflake*
04-19-2008, 08:28 PM
that's awkward.

I, myself, dont like the "messages" federer leaves to his fans in his website. The news and all that stuff that is writen in the 1st person. But I dont actually think he is the one who writes it so..

This was the blog that ATP asked him to do, and it didn't even cross my mind that he'd get someone to write it for him. I mean, if someone is writing it for you at least let it be a person with a lil talent and the ability to not make you look bad.
The blog was just a big disappointment, but what sealed the deal was that patriotic or however you want to call it video.

alfonsojose
04-20-2008, 01:20 AM
Rainer ... i got tired of him losing wek after week :sad:

Action Jackson
07-12-2008, 10:38 AM
I was also a bit of a fan of Andreev a few years ago, but he has lost most of his appeal. The guys hasn't reached a SF for two years!

What he made the semis in Gstaad 2007, that is well within 2 years. You were probably never a fan of the guy in the first place.

Action Jackson
07-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Rainer ... i got tired of him losing wek after week :sad:

What a surprise that has changed now Schuettler made the semis of Wimbledon.

T2KN
07-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I used to really like Hewitt. When he started playing like shit and occassionally also disappeared, I somewhat lost my interest in men's tennis and became a bigger fan of Kim Clijsters bc she's Belgian and so am I, and she won a lot. :p A bit simple but yeah. That phase was over quite quickly. Then I saw Nadal in the RG semi-finals and kind of noticed the same intensity with him Hewitt also had, only he was/is a better player, even more passionate and classier as he doesn't yell 'vamos' at unforced errors LOL.

But still, when Lleyton plays, I root for him. Just not as much as I used to.

GuiroNl
07-12-2008, 11:46 AM
I used to dislike Hewitt but now I like the guy.
I used to dislike Gasquet but now I like him.
I used to dislike Roddick and now I dislike him even more, same thing with Murray.

Never happened to me the other way though.

Ivanatis
07-12-2008, 11:49 AM
James Blake was one of my favourites some time ago. But with all this De-Villiers-supporting, being pro Round Robin etc. he lost pretty much all my support.

A player, with whom it's practically the other way around, is Lleyton Hewitt. I really couldn't stand him when he was at his prime. But now he's a guy I like to see winning.

michellej
07-12-2008, 12:17 PM
:lol: the lumberjack-walk can indeed be a great source of annoyance!


Dinara Safina walks the same way. i think it's a family thing, although I noticed thta he didn't walk like that at Wimbledon this year.

michellej
07-12-2008, 12:19 PM
Rainer ... i got tired of him losing wek after week :sad:


So do you like him again now that he got to the Wimbledon semi's? If so , that makes you a fair weather fan ..like a lot of fans are.

HeretiC
07-12-2008, 02:15 PM
Something huge should happen for me to start disliking a player I already like. But I still have no clue what that "huge" thing might be.

Action Jackson
07-13-2008, 08:48 AM
Something huge should happen for me to start disliking a player I already like. But I still have no clue what that "huge" thing might be.

I understand where you are coming from, though you will know it when you see it.

Or Levy
07-13-2008, 09:17 AM
that's awkward.

I, myself, dont like the "messages" federer leaves to his fans in his website. The news and all that stuff that is writen in the 1st person. But I dont actually think he is the one who writes it so..

I don't know about that. Mirka thanked the fans on the webpage for her birthday wishes a few months ago, that's definitly, you know - something that most likely came from her or from Roger. Whether the exact phrasing is exactly hers, it is impossible to say, but I imagine the idea of writing the fans something (which doesn't happen that often) must come from either Roger or Mirka.

Sheepy
07-13-2008, 09:47 AM
Only one I can think of is Roddick. I never supported him, but I was indifferent until I saw him shake his fist practically in Bracciali's face during their match in the 2nd round of Wimby in '05. No call for that.

And the other way round, I never liked Hewitt but now don't mind if he wins and Ljubo is growing on me for some reason.

sheeter
07-13-2008, 03:49 PM
i used to like Roddick as well, when i began to gte into tennis, but not so much now. I also like Hewitt more.
I've noticed a lot of people used to like Roddick.

stebs
07-13-2008, 03:54 PM
My feelings which I expressed earlier in this thread remain true. I tend to stick by players, can't actually name an example of going from support to dislike although the level of support changes with time. I continue to find it hugely elitist to criticise people for switching alliances and I see it as personal opinion to choose who you support so no need to condemn somebody for a particular allegiance.

HeretiC
07-13-2008, 03:58 PM
I understand where you are coming from, though you will know it when you see it.

I guess I will know, although I prefer that thing is not going to happen (disliking a player after liking him) . There has been over 30 years for me following tennis and that never happened, but never say never.

rocketassist
07-13-2008, 04:29 PM
Liked Safin in 2002-04. Liked his game, still do if he played decent tennis. However, his fans piss me off and overrate him far higher than what he is.

Djokovic I was a big fan of when he burst on the scene, but gamesmanship and the rivalry with Murray (who I obviously support) has lessened it. I like him to beat Federer and Nadal, but he's not a top fave.

Roddick, liked his intensity and his FH (what it was once) but now his intensity just seems to be trying to intimidate the opponent and his FH is a crap loopy moonball shot.

The reverse applies to Hewitt and Gaudio, didn't like them at first, now they're ok, and Gaudio is great to watch and a cool guy.

lol.

Monte Carlo was when I really had enough of the Faker.

He's a cock now. I wanted him to make it competitive with the top two at first, but now I realise them two have class, and he is an ass. :shrug:

Action Jackson
07-14-2008, 03:40 AM
My feelings which I expressed earlier in this thread remain true. I tend to stick by players, can't actually name an example of going from support to dislike although the level of support changes with time. I continue to find it hugely elitist to criticise people for switching alliances and I see it as personal opinion to choose who you support so no need to condemn somebody for a particular allegiance.

I definitely stand by the comments expressed about bandwagoning buffoons. It's not elitist at all to criticise fickle people who only give a crap if their particular player is doing well at that moment and jump off the horse when it's not.

shotgun
07-14-2008, 03:53 AM
Gonzalez - was a fan until I met him. He wasn't very nice. I still like his game though.

Tursunov - just grew tired of his personality and his attention-seeking antics, and his ballbashing game doesn't cause me as much excitement as it used to.

I don't dislike any of them, just not a fan anymore.

Johnny Groove
07-14-2008, 04:01 AM
Something huge should happen for me to start disliking a player I already like. But I still have no clue what that "huge" thing might be.

Dima and Djokovic both this year have pissed me off

casabe
07-14-2008, 04:18 AM
djokovic ......reason? us open 2007 match Vs monaco

soraya
07-14-2008, 04:29 AM
I used to like Hewitt until he came up with that racist remark at US.
Djoko, he was one of my favorite players, but again his on and off court manners put him in my dislike list.
Tursunov, I enjoyed his blogs and his humour, I don't appreciate the way he talks to umpires.

Exodus
07-14-2008, 04:39 AM
federer after getting owned by nadal...

Knightmace
07-14-2008, 07:11 AM
I use to support Ferrero alot.

bokehlicious
07-14-2008, 07:21 AM
federer after getting owned by nadal...

Ditto :o :angel: :D

drf716
07-14-2008, 08:20 AM
i used to like federer but only because he beat sampras who was always winning then
but then he became one like him so i have a not-so-secret grudge on him.

Naina
07-14-2008, 04:22 PM
I liked djoko (he wasnt a big fave though) before he started winning and his head started to inflate like a balloon. Now i cant stand him. retirements taken when he is losing and the infinite ball bouncing grate on my nerves.
he is the only one that springs to mind.

Manon
07-14-2008, 04:51 PM
1. Nadal it was. Can't stant any more this peasant attitude.
2. Gasquet. I didn't know he has no balls.
3. F.Lopez. Too girlish for me.
4. Monfils. ........................
5. Gicquel. Trabant guy.

Should be vice versa thread - you didn't support them, now you do....y?

Pfloyd
02-09-2009, 03:53 PM
I used to like James Blake when he plays good tennis, his hard hitting was really amazing to watch, but as I saw him playing opponents that could manage his onslaught, all he does is the same gameplay harder and ends up losing.

Really frustrating.

Djokovic at the beggening was interesting to watch, but as his career has progressed, I think his attitude really hurts his like-ability.

Which players did you once like, but no longer do, and why?

Certinfy
02-09-2009, 03:55 PM
Nadal used to be my fave player until the start of the 07 season. Now he's the player i hate the most.

~*BGT*~
02-09-2009, 04:26 PM
I used to like Tommy Haas. Now... I'm pretty neutral.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Blake

many others I cbb remembering. Henman, Nole, Feds a little bit.

ad-out
02-09-2009, 04:42 PM
Andy Roddick.

jcreback
02-09-2009, 04:47 PM
Djokovic. When I first heard about him in 2003, I was so excited to see how he would turn out. Then he looked poised to be such a great one, and already seems like his best is behind him. I don't get it. His whiny attitude doesn't help either.

SushiMinimal
02-09-2009, 04:50 PM
gonzalez and gasquet

Voo de Mar
02-09-2009, 05:04 PM
I used to like more for example Federer and Nadal when they were youngsters. I don't like hegemony so usually I cheer against of them but it doesn't mean I don't like them anymore. Simply I like surprises :angel:

brief
02-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Djokovic was quite exciting once upon a time.

Albop
02-09-2009, 05:29 PM
Ancic.

brazuca5copas
02-09-2009, 05:30 PM
David Nalbandian, I just give up to believe that he can win a Grand Slam.

TankingTheSet
02-09-2009, 05:35 PM
Nadal used to be my fave player until the start of the 07 season. Now he's the player i hate the most.

That reminds me that I was following Nadal intensely at the beginning of 2005 just before he broke through and probably supporting him. I don't remember when that changed maybe after 2006 because he just won everything on clay.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 05:38 PM
Harm, I had the same thing happen to me with my support for Federer. Once he beat Flip at Wimbly in '03, my opinion of him changed and has never been the same since.

Not even when Nadal was owning him everywhere did my like for him return fully. I liked him best when I was a kid and saw his 5 set epic with Haas at the AO.

Dini
02-09-2009, 05:46 PM
Djokovic. 2008 changed it forever, and well I started disliking him.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 06:15 PM
BUMP

Mods do your job.

MERGE :p

reggie1
02-09-2009, 07:03 PM
I was always a really big Roddick fan but not so much now. There is a fine line between confidence and self belief and arrogance and over the last few years I have found Roddick's on court attitude to be arrogant. I know plenty of people will disagree with me but it's just my personal opinion based on what I have seen on t.v, admittedly never live. Also, an acquaintance of mine met him in a bar in Austin and said he acted like he was god's gift. She had been a fan previously too.

My main tennis love is Gasquet. I have always liked him but found myself even more drawn to him as a fan when he was in his slump (I'm hoping this phase has passed!) last year. It just made me want to support him even more and prompted me to join MTF. Oh no, everyone says, something else to dislike Gasquet over :lol:

FluffyYellowBall
02-09-2009, 07:20 PM
Im not familiar with the RObredo/Gaudio incident in Barcelona 03. What happened there?And why is fish an asshole?
It surprised me that some of the non assholes are friends with the assholes! And I walways judge players pesonality based on their friends which I should stop doing
Like Blake and Roddick.. Ass (Roddick) and non ass(Blake) :D

Clement is one that I used to cheer for and now Ive turned against him after I heard how fll of himself he is and how he treats ball kids.

Andi-M
02-09-2009, 08:48 PM
Djokovic.
In 2006/7 I'd call myself a fan, but now I'd call myself a hater.

HattonWBA
02-09-2009, 08:51 PM
Yh used to like Novak aswell but dont like him as much know, dont mind him but hate how he always retires and fakes injury timeouts, unblelievable player tho

Tankman
02-09-2009, 08:53 PM
MODS

MERGE THIS THREAD. NAO :p

Ivanatis
02-09-2009, 08:54 PM
Monfils maybe, I don't dislike him now, but he used to be among my favourites some years ago.
apart from that Canas and Moya as well and probably some more I cannot think of right now

Action Jackson
02-09-2009, 08:56 PM
BUMP

Mods do your job.

MERGE :p

They probably had to wait too long for the server to work.

l_mac
02-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Djokovic.
In 2006/7 I'd call myself a fan, but now I'd call myself a hater.

:lol:

You liked him nearly all last year too :retard:

Yeah I know Poor Nole....this impression thing has really gone out of hand.

I think he's hilarious guy with a fantastic personsality whether he's doing impressions or just being himself.
But the Roddick impression will never get old for me :D

Expected result. But scoreline is more routine than i would have thought.

Phenomenal soo pleased!!!

Djokovic is the real deal i cant wait for him to win...although i love tsonga too so im happy. :)

I hope your talking about personality. Because tennis achievements wise he will out-do Hewitt by this time next year easy.
This was a FAIL btw :wavey: :D
1. Murray
2. Nadal
3. Tsonga
4. Tipsarevic
5. Djokovic
6. Moya
7. Nalbandian
8. Youznhy
9. Kohlscheriber
10. Blake

Ozone
02-09-2009, 09:01 PM
I used to like Roddick, because I was unaware of his smart assness and he wasnt yet coached by Jimmy Connors and he wasnt that spoiled yet.
Now, he is an arrogant jerk that has terrible athleticism and only has a serve and a forehand.

star_of_dusk
02-09-2009, 09:02 PM
NADAL!!!

I used to like him, but now something just kind of turns me off, something about the way he speaks or something I don't know??

Anyway, when I used to like Rafa I kind of liked Davydenko but then as my dislike of Rafa grew, my love for Davydenko grew as well

...weird

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:03 PM
They probably had to wait too long for the server to work.

:haha:

You should make me a mod then. The servers are in BRISBANE. There is afaik one network cable to Asia. And one to the US. No wonder you guys have trouble with the site :p

simplet
02-09-2009, 09:07 PM
:lol:

You liked him nearly all last year too :retard:


This was a FAIL btw :wavey: :D

I'm sorry to single you out like that, it's pretty rude, but are you always that annoying? Did you go through his entire post history from last year just to prove him that he liked Djokovic? What the hell? All your posts in GM are really aggravating.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:09 PM
I'm sorry to single you out like that, it's pretty rude, but are you always that annoying? Did you go through his entire post history from last year just to prove him that he liked Djokovic? What the hell? All your posts in GM are really aggravating.

:haha:

POST OF THE YEAR :rocker2:

Linda :hug:

NoFroz
02-09-2009, 09:13 PM
I use to like Del Potro when he played worse, dont know why. Now I find him boring as hell, probably like most people

Erica86
02-09-2009, 09:17 PM
NADAL!!!

I used to like him, but now something just kind of turns me off, something about the way he speaks or something I don't know??

Anyway, when I used to like Rafa I kind of liked Davydenko but then as my dislike of Rafa grew, my love for Davydenko grew as well

...weird

Perhaps you have realised that you prefer bald skinny guys to hairy muscular guys?

l_mac
02-09-2009, 09:18 PM
I'm sorry to single you out like that, it's pretty rude, but are you always that annoying? Did you go through his entire post history from last year just to prove him that he liked Djokovic?

Yes, yes I did :D I remember him/her when he was called I like Murray and every post was about how awesome Nole was.

And, yeah, I'm always this annoying. Sometimes more :wavey:

What the hell? All your posts in GM are really aggravating.

I will try to change :tears:

scarecrows
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
I will try to change :tears:

don't :tears:

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
:awww:

Linda :rocker2:

case
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
MODS

MERGE THIS THREAD. NAO :p


they are too busy deleting my threads!

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:24 PM
they are too busy deleting my threads!

:lol:

I know.

Didn't even move them to NT :lol:

RL I KNOW IT WAS YOU. You were online 2 seconds ago :p

Don't try to deny it. And if you ban/suspend my acct everyone will know. Plus TT Ro'dam players will lynch you :p

Try and delete this thread :nerner:

simplet
02-09-2009, 09:27 PM
Yes, yes I did :D I remember him/her when he was called I like Murray and every post was about how awesome Nole was.

And, yeah, I'm always this annoying. Sometimes more :wavey:



I will try to change :tears:

Well then, I guess I'll just have to ignore it. :lol: I don't want you to disappoint all your fans for me.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:28 PM
:(

don't say that simplet

she needs to change :armed: :haha: :haha:

case
02-09-2009, 09:30 PM
:lol:

I know.

Didn't even move them to NT :lol:

RL I KNOW IT WAS YOU. You were online 2 seconds ago :p

Don't try to deny it. And if you ban/suspend my acct everyone will know. Plus TT Ro'dam players will lynch you :p

Try and delete this thread :nerner:

:haha: it was RL!

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:31 PM
you should change your SIG

"RL COME FORTH AND CONFESS YOUR CRIMES"

....but then that'll get you and I both banned so forget I said that :o

case
02-09-2009, 09:33 PM
you should change your SIG

"RL COME FORTH AND CONFESS YOUR CRIMES"

....but then that'll get you and I both banned so forget I said that :o

tankman dont get banned-you are just too funny:D
btw-say hi to sydney for me

Andi-M
02-09-2009, 09:33 PM
:lol:

You liked him nearly all last year too :retard:






This was a FAIL btw :wavey: :D

What are you trying to prove exactly. I really liked Nole I got over it. So should you.

l_mac
02-09-2009, 09:35 PM
What are you trying to prove exactly. I really liked Nole I got over it. So should you.

You seemed to like him all last year, until he stopped winning :D

Anyway, I am glad you have changed your mind. I don't much enjoy Nole fans.

l_mac
02-09-2009, 09:36 PM
don't :tears:

:ras:

Tankman
02-09-2009, 09:39 PM
tankman dont get banned-you are just too funny:D
btw-say hi to sydney for me

:lol: okay then

I will. You been there? For the Obama campaign?

:ras:

:haha:

we agree???????? :eek:

star
02-09-2009, 10:27 PM
You seemed to like him all last year, until he stopped winning :D

Anyway, I am glad you have changed your mind. I don't much enjoy Nole fans.

:tears: :tears:

l_mac
02-09-2009, 10:31 PM
:tears: :tears:

The exception that proves the rule :hug:

Also there are some other exceptions.

Actually, I have nothing against Nole fans.

OMG my whole MTF life is a SHAM :bigcry: :bigcry:

Bad Religion
02-09-2009, 10:47 PM
The brother of Dinara as I can´t stand her tennis , face , family, anything related to the current number 2 . Reason enough to hate Safin for me. In addition Marat is playing like a pansy since 2005, even Gasquet seems a 100% guts player compared to that idiot

cobalt60
02-09-2009, 10:56 PM
The exception that proves the rule :hug:

Also there are some other exceptions.

Actually, I have nothing against Nole fans.

OMG my whole MTF life is a SHAM :bigcry: :bigcry:

There is still hope for you Linda:hug: You could emulate your favorite player. Can you do it? Yes you can!!!

Action Jackson
02-09-2009, 11:02 PM
There is still hope for you Linda:hug: You could emulate your favorite player. Can you do it? Yes you can!!!

Kumbaya.

Tankman
02-09-2009, 11:03 PM
YES

A MERGE

okay own up

who did this? :devil: :p

l_mac
02-09-2009, 11:05 PM
There is still hope for you Linda:hug:

Is there :awww:

You could emulate your favorite player. Can you do it? Yes you can!!!

Your faith in me is touching :sobbing:

cobalt60
02-09-2009, 11:13 PM
Well Rafa is pure class. Rarely says anything incorrect at all. And has a sense of humility about him; at least to the public. That is a nice trait for me to see as many players don't have it.

But I digress. To answer the question-I have stopped caring about support;)

l_mac
02-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Well Rafa is pure class. Rarely says anything incorrect at all. And has a sense of humility about him; at least to the public.

Seems like I am already very like him ;)

cobalt60
02-09-2009, 11:23 PM
Seems like I am already very like him ;)

:spit: Ok you got me there. :hug:

Tankman
02-09-2009, 11:25 PM
oh don't say that Sue

she is very much like Rafa..... well at least for the past hour yes :p

Clydey
02-09-2009, 11:48 PM
oh don't say that Sue

she is very much like Rafa..... well at least for the past hour yes :p

I have been trying to think of a solitary similarity shared by Linda and Rafa so that I could make a witty joke about the similarites beginning and ending with some dull feature, such as hair colour. I quite genuinely cannot think of one thing they have in common, though. Nadal is politically correct and respectful, whereas Linda's mouth constantly gets her in trouble. I suppose she's a lot like Djokovic in that sense.