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Old Hewitt coming back? Potato sniffs out the Duck

Tennis Fool
11-20-2004, 11:42 PM
From his interview today:

Q. So much has been said and written about possibly Roger and Andy being 1 and 2, and having another rivalry up there. Is this a kind of "remember me" week? "Don't forget I'm still a decent player as well"?

LLEYTON HEWITT: I don't know. I heard Cliff Drysdale talking, he sounded like there was only two players playing the game.

I know there's been one stand out, you know, for the last year and a half. But if you look at the points, I think there's a couple of us right up Andy's butt at the moment. There's definitely been one stand out.

Q. What if it's Marat [instead of Roger] getting through? What are your thoughts there?

LLEYTON HEWITT: It's still not that much easier than if it was Roger, I think. Marat's obviously the form player over the last few months. I think he's looking extremely confident. In my mind he probably should have beaten Andy the other day. He looks ready at the moment, I think.

bad gambler
11-20-2004, 11:46 PM
i think it's too early too call....old hewitt was the no 1 player in the world and was a domincnat force

however if you take into account that federer has improved 10 fold since 2001 i'd say hewitt is playing pretty close to the way he did in 2001 & 2002. A solid performance at teh Aus open next year would confirm that

TennisLurker
11-20-2004, 11:50 PM
I think there's a couple of us right up Andy's butt at the moment. There's definitely been one stand out.



Right up Andy's butt??

Tennis Fool
11-20-2004, 11:50 PM
i think it's too early too call....old hewitt was the no 1 player in the world and was a domincnat force

however if you take into account that federer has improved 10 fold since 2001 i'd say hewitt is playing pretty close to the way he did in 2001 & 2002. A solid performance at teh Aus open next year would confirm that
You took the title too literally. I meant his brash, uncensored yaks. Which, with him, seems to be related to confidence. :banana:

Tennis Fool
11-20-2004, 11:52 PM
I think there's a couple of us right up Andy's butt at the moment. There's definitely been one stand out.



[quote] Right up Andy's butt??
Like I said, he's getting himself a sniff :haha:

Sjengster
11-20-2004, 11:52 PM
"Right up Andy's butt" - ah, that must surely go down as one of Hewitt's more memorable interview quotes.

With this emphatic win over Roddick, it goes to show that now the only obstacle holding Hewitt back on fast courts at least is Federer. That is a fairly big obstacle, of course, and Hewitt far more than Roddick has suffered at the hands of Federer in big events this year, but he has another shot at it tomorrow. He made a good point about Drysdale and the ESPN gang, Safin also showed today that there are at least 4 players challenging at the top of the game. Hopefully more, if Nalbandian and Ferrero (remember him?) can finally stop being walking crocks.

Tennis Fool
11-20-2004, 11:56 PM
"Right up Andy's butt" - ah, that must surely go down as one of Hewitt's more memorable interview quotes.

With this emphatic win over Roddick, it goes to show that now the only obstacle holding Hewitt back on fast courts at least is Federer. That is a fairly big obstacle, of course, and Hewitt far more than Roddick has suffered at the hands of Federer in big events this year, but he has another shot at it tomorrow. He made a good point about Drysdale and the ESPN gang, Safin also showed today that there are at least 4 players challenging at the top of the game. Hopefully more, if Nalbandian and Ferrero (remember him?) can finally stop being walking crocks.

Yeah, Hewitt doesn't want to go down as the player who got bagelled by Fed each time they played him in a year.

bad gambler
11-20-2004, 11:58 PM
You took the title too literally. I meant his brash, uncensored yaks. Which, with him, seems to be related to confidence. :banana:


LOL ok i get it :)

well he has always been shouting his c'mons! and yakking away even thru the tough times

TennisLurker
11-21-2004, 12:00 AM
why does he call himself rock???

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 12:02 AM
Surprise! Another anti-Roddick troll thread from one of his biggest fans, TF. :hearts:

Thanks for giving us yet another "Potato roasts Duck" thread, TF, as the other five threads clearly weren't sufficient enough to hold all the obsessed haters together. :rolls:

Tennis Fool
11-21-2004, 12:06 AM
Surprise! Another anti-Roddick troll thread from one of his biggest fans, TF. :hearts:

Thanks for giving us yet another "Potato roasts Duck" thread, TF, as the other five threads clearly weren't sufficient enough to hold all the obsessed haters together. :rolls:

When was the last time I saw Tangerinus...hummmm :scratch:

Ah yes, in the Master Cup thread biting at the bit that Safin was going to go down in flames to Fed, as a response that he's a better Fed rival than Duckboy.

Socket
11-21-2004, 12:08 AM
why does he call himself rock???
He's a big fan of the Rocky boxing films, and when he was a kid, used to watch them before matches to pump himself up.

Sjengster
11-21-2004, 12:08 AM
As far as trolling criteria go, you beat TF in that department by a country mile. At least this thread is trying to make a point about Hewitt instead of simply mocking out El Pato.

Lurker, it's to do with the Rocky movies - Hewitt watches them avidly, he used to have headphones on playing Eye of the Tiger on changeovers a few years ago. And to put it in the words of the song, he's the little man "standing up to the challenge of our rivals"... "The last lone survivor" who "stalks his prey in the night", indeed.

Socket
11-21-2004, 12:10 AM
there's a couple of us right up Andy's butt at the moment
That's gotta hurt . . . :eek:

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 12:14 AM
Ah yes, in the Master Cup thread biting at the bit that Safin was going to go down in flames to Fed, as a response that he's a better Fed rival than Duckboy.

Where did I ever say that Safin would "go down in flames" against Roger? Can you point that out to me? Thanks. :)

And seeing as how Roger has now confirmed his ownership of the Russian, I guess my theory holds true that absolutely nobody is Roger's rival these days, and that the Roddick-haters fantasies of Marat being a "better rival" for Roger have been sadly squashed once again. Poor you. :lol:

Iheartandy&roger
11-21-2004, 12:18 AM
:rolleyes: oh how u all wish Safin or somebody else was a better rival for Rogi than "Duckboy" too bad.

Tennis Fool
11-21-2004, 12:18 AM
Where did I ever say that Safin would "go down in flames" against Roger? Can you point that out to me? Thanks. :)
The lack of quote marks should mean something to you, if you know anything about grammar.

And seeing as how Roger has now confirmed his ownership of the Russian, I guess my theory holds true that absolutely nobody is Roger's rival these days, and that the Roddick-haters fantasies of Marat being a "better rival" for Roger have been sadly squashed once again. Poor you. :lol:
Yes, poor me :sad: Where is the rest of DN to back you up, Tangerinus? I can hear the wind around you.

star
11-21-2004, 12:20 AM
That's gotta hurt . . . :eek:

:haha: :haha:

No wonder Andy played so badly. :lol:

Good luck to Lleyton tomorrow!!! I love to see Lleyton on fire and playing well.

Sjengster
11-21-2004, 12:20 AM
True, Federer has ultimately won the big points against both Roddick and Safin, but anyone who isn't blinded by Duck-love could have seen today that Safin can push Federer much closer. As I said in the thread about the match itself, he returns serve better than Roddick and he is more damaging off both sides, and hits with greater depth - Federer's defence was stretched to its very limits, but he just managed to cope. Both men suffer from a lack of variety against him, but Safin has more potential at the moment to start beating him next year because with a stronger mentality, he has greater all-round weight of shot than Roddick. Obviously the question of who can rival Federer in 2004 is irrelevant, since he's beaten allcomers this year, no matter who they are and what their playing style is.

Iheartandy&roger
11-21-2004, 12:20 AM
Nobody is a rival for Rogi especially not Marat. Rogi really stomps him. :devil:

Fedex
11-21-2004, 12:20 AM
Well, atleast Safin is actually making these matches close, and is not losing 64 60 to Federer. :)

Fedex
11-21-2004, 12:21 AM
Nobody is a rival for Rogi especially not Marat. Rogi really stomps him. :devil:
And this was a stomping?? Hardly.

TennisLurker
11-21-2004, 12:22 AM
That's gotta hurt . . . :eek:

Indeed, I didnt know it could be done with a guy :eek:

TennisLurker
11-21-2004, 12:25 AM
Thanks for your explanation Sjengster

Sjengster
11-21-2004, 12:27 AM
Federer's played them both three times in 2004, and Roddick has won one set to Safin's none. But the key in the matches with Safin has been the tiebreaks - Federer is 4-0 this year vs Safin, and 5-0 overall in all the matches they've played. I'd suggest that both the AO and Bangkok finals aren't a true reflection of how the match-ups would normally go, because Safin was fatigued and Roddick injured in these matches (which is not to say Federer didn't play well in both of them).

The fact is, the one man who is the biggest threat to Federer because of his style of game has had too many injury problems this year to have another shot at him.

Iheartandy&roger
11-21-2004, 12:30 AM
Well i'm glad ur all lapping up Andy's lost and have fun making fun of him enjoy it while it lasts cuz what goes around comes around.

Auscon
11-21-2004, 12:32 AM
I think the old Hewitts been back a quite a few times this year....problem is that the new Federer has been around too

Fedex
11-21-2004, 12:34 AM
True. Had it not been for Federer, Hewitt would've probably won a slam this year. He's had a great year.

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 12:36 AM
I think the old Hewitts been back a quite a few times this year....problem is that the new Federer has been around too

Very good call and I have to give plenty of credit to Hewitt for the year he has had, and it showed what it took for Federer and Gaudio to win the Slams, they had to get through Hewitt to achieve these results.

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 12:40 AM
The lack of quote marks should mean something to you, if you know anything about grammar.

Thanks for the non-answer and proving that once again you're full of shit and can't back up any of your troll statements. :)

Yes, poor me :sad: Where is the rest of DN to back you up, Tangerinus? I can hear the wind around you.

Who is the rest of DN? :scratch: I don't need "back up" because I can defend myself from your stupidity quite well on my own, thanks. :lol:

Tennis Fool
11-21-2004, 12:42 AM
Thanks for the non-answer and proving that once again you're full of shit and can't back up any of your troll statements. :)


You're welcome :hatoff:

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 12:42 AM
Well, atleast Safin is actually making these matches close, and is not losing 64 60 to Federer. :)

If Safin had an injured serving arm like Roddick did at Shanghai, it's quite possible that he could've gone down with a bagel as well.

Try again, Fedex. You're not desperate enough. :)

star
11-21-2004, 12:43 AM
I think the old Hewitts been back a quite a few times this year....problem is that the new Federer has been around too

:)

Fedex
11-21-2004, 12:48 AM
If Safin had an injured serving arm like Roddick did at Shanghai, it's quite possible that he could've gone down with a bagel as well.

Try again, Fedex. You're not desperate enough. :)
Of course Safin doesn't need the serve as much as Roddick does, so even with an injury to his right arm, he would've still done better than Roddick. :) I'm not desperate, and I dont need to be, as my man is in the finals, and you're man isn't. :)

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 12:56 AM
I'm not desperate, and I dont need to be, as my man is in the finals, and you're man isn't. :)

Oooh. **insert hands shaking here** YOUR guy is in the finals but MY guy isn't? Oh, how second grade! :sobbing: Can I join in?

nyah-nyah, I have two of my guys are in the final, and you only have ONE. Haha. Only one! So there. I have TWO, you have ONE. I win! nyah-nyah! :nerner:

Mlashtok
11-21-2004, 01:25 AM
Well, tangerine,

Roger and Marat did play a heck of a tiebreak today. That's a much better set than the last set which Roger played against Rodduck, which was a bagel. :devil:

Mlashtok
11-21-2004, 01:29 AM
Who do you have in the final... Bob and Mike Brian? :haha: :haha:

Lalitha
11-21-2004, 09:59 AM
But if you look at the points, I think there's a couple of us right up Andy's butt at the moment. There's definitely been one stand out.



Could have used a bit of professional language here.

bad gambler
11-21-2004, 10:01 AM
well he has never been great with the media

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 10:02 AM
well he has never been great with the media

Better than he was and that's a start.

Satanic Pasteur
11-21-2004, 10:16 AM
Who do you have in the final... Bob and Mike Brian? Big LOL to this :worship:

Safin played at Federer level yesterday, a thing Roddick will always fail to achieve as he isn't enough talented so yes there is no rivalry for Federer nowadays but Marat may be able to build one latter whereas Duck has not even a glimpse of hope :devil:

Lol at all the Tangerine trolling attempts :rolleyes: the duck's fan in disguise :o ;)

Tennis Fool
11-21-2004, 10:16 PM
Could have used a bit of professional language here.
:lol:

tangerine_dream
11-21-2004, 10:44 PM
Well, tangerine,

Roger and Marat did play a heck of a tiebreak today. That's a much better set than the last set which Roger played against Rodduck, which was a bagel. :devil:

Hey, Fedex (or Sigmagirl, whichever one it is) I like your new troll name. :yeah:

Yes, their tb was great; never said it wasn't. But like your other village idiot persona, you also forget that the only reason Roger managed to bagel Andy was because Andy's arm was falling off it's sinews. Everybody knows this. Even the haters. And how convenient you all forget the excellent final they both played at Wimbledon this year.

Thanks anyways for playing. Try harder. You're almost there. :)

Oh, and Satanic Pasteur: you're attempt at trolling doesn't come anywhere near TennisFool's level.

Fedex
11-21-2004, 10:52 PM
Excellent Wimbledon final? Yes, if you enjoy Federer playing at 30% and 90% of his shots were short balls. Bangkok, Roddick had a minor sprain, and nothing more, and I love how the Roddick fans make such great excuses for his lost matches against Federer. The hypocrisy with the Roddick fans is incredible.

Havok
11-21-2004, 11:43 PM
"Right up Andy's butt" - ah, that must surely go down as one of Hewitt's more memorable interview quotes.

With this emphatic win over Roddick, it goes to show that now the only obstacle holding Hewitt back on fast courts at least is Federer. That is a fairly big obstacle, of course, and Hewitt far more than Roddick has suffered at the hands of Federer in big events this year, but he has another shot at it tomorrow. He made a good point about Drysdale and the ESPN gang, Safin also showed today that there are at least 4 players challenging at the top of the game. Hopefully more, if Nalbandian and Ferrero (remember him?) can finally stop being walking crocks.
Roddick beat Hewitt at Queens this year. Lleyton isn't out of the woods yet, and Safin beat him at Paris indoors, yet another fast surface. Agassi also beat him at the Cincy finals, a pretty fast surface. Lleyton doesn't only have trouble vs Federer on fast surfaces, he has trouble vs the whole lot.

Havok
11-21-2004, 11:45 PM
Excellent Wimbledon final? Yes, if you enjoy Federer playing at 30% and 90% of his shots were short balls. Bangkok, Roddick had a minor sprain, and nothing more, and I love how the Roddick fans make such great excuses for his lost matches against Federer. The hypocrisy with the Roddick fans is incredible.
Please stop talking out of your ass. Roger hit a crapload of winners and very minimal errors. That first set was insane tennis from Andy, there was nothing Federer was able to do. After the first set, he worked his magic more and got things going his way, but he still had to fight because Andy played well. Sheesh you're starting to sound like bandabou and what he says about Serena, now you're saying Roger was at 30% in the Wimbledon finals.:tape:

tennischick
11-21-2004, 11:46 PM
yeah but Potato is 4-1 lifetime against the Duck. :lol:

tennischick
11-21-2004, 11:47 PM
Please stop talking out of your ass. Roger hit a crapload of winners and very minimal errors. That first set was insane tennis from Andy, there was nothing Federer was able to do. After the first set, he worked his magic more and got things going his way, but he still had to fight because Andy played well. Sheesh you're starting to sound like bandabou and what he says about Serena, now you're saying Roger was at 30% in the Wimbledon finals.:tape:
and you tell me about my language :eek: :eek:

Havok
11-21-2004, 11:50 PM
He's 1-1 this year, stop living in the year 2001 when Lleyton was an established #1 player and it was Andy's 1st year on tour. Also one of the losses was a retirement so k. And oh golly gee I said ass, please shoot me. Note I didn't call fedex a name, just stated for him to stop saying stupidities.

Fedex
11-22-2004, 12:02 AM
Roddick beat Hewitt at Queens this year. Lleyton isn't out of the woods yet, and Safin beat him at Paris indoors, yet another fast surface. Agassi also beat him at the Cincy finals, a pretty fast surface. Lleyton doesn't only have trouble vs Federer on fast surfaces, he has trouble vs the whole lot.
He didn't seem to have much trouble with Roddick yesterday.

Fedex
11-22-2004, 12:07 AM
Please stop talking out of your ass. Roger hit a crapload of winners and very minimal errors. That first set was insane tennis from Andy, there was nothing Federer was able to do. After the first set, he worked his magic more and got things going his way, but he still had to fight because Andy played well. Sheesh you're starting to sound like bandabou and what he says about Serena, now you're saying Roger was at 30% in the Wimbledon finals.:tape:
Ah, Naldo, can you be more deluded? If you saw how many short balls Federer was hitting in that match, you would know he probably played his worse ever match against Roddick, besides Montreal. Rarely did Federer hit an agressive ground stroke, which is why Roddick was hitting all those winners in the 1st set. No he wasn't making errors, but he was hardly EVER agressive, and gave Roddick alot of easy shots to put away. His serve sucked badly that day; not enough 1st serves, plus lack of depth on the serve itself. Whereas if you compare the Wimby 03 Semis, you'll see that Roddick was playing at an equally high level in that match, yet Federer played one of his best matches ever.Federer didn't play near the level of tennis in this years Wimby match against Roddick, vs. last years. Naldo, if you've come to talk and debate about tennis, at least get somewhere near the truth.

Fedex
11-22-2004, 12:10 AM
Ok, Federer was at 32% in the Wimbledon Finals, and I'm being serious.

Havok
11-22-2004, 12:27 AM
Why are you bringing up Wimbledon 03? Yeah I know Fed's tennis that tournament was the best he's ever played, but still saying he was 30% at this year's Wimbledon finals is complete shit. And I don't remember Federer's serves being shit, I remember Roddick hitting some of the best returns he's ever hit. But of course to go along with your "Fed was at 30%" statement, then yes go ahead and state that his serve % wasn't as great and his lack of depth on serves. Although I agree that Federer at times didn't hit with much depth at the start of the match, but when Roddick was playing huge from both sides, it's kinda hard to be offensive. Though as I've said before, Federer was able to work his way and play offensive and work his magic more to come up with the win.

And just a sidenote, Andy couldn't have been playing the same level of tennis at this year's wimbledon and last year's. This year he has a much better backhand and return of serve, he volleyed much better and was fitter. Andy 2004 is a better player than Andy of 2003, even though he didn't accomplish as much.

haas'luv
11-22-2004, 01:49 AM
Nah,hewitt wont be back.lol.no chance for him when playing against roger.
C'mon,roger.:)

Sjengster
11-22-2004, 09:58 PM
Yes, other top players have beaten Hewitt this year, but none of them have beaten him at three of the four Slams, on all four GS surfaces and twice at the TMC like Federer has. Hewitt's also 1-1 with Safin and Roddick this year, and in the three matches he lost to Roddick, Agassi and Safin he had fairly major chances (served for the first set at Queens and had a setpoint in the tiebreak; took Agassi to three sets in Cincy; saved matchpoints, broke Safin back and wasted a couple of setpoints in Paris). He hasn't come that close against Federer, their tightest match was the Wimbledon one. Without Federer, Hewitt would have won a Slam and ended the year no. 2, so he must be the Aussie's biggest obstacle at the moment.

No point arguing endlessly about the Wimbledon final this year. Roddick played a far better match than in the semi last year, he could actually hit a return and backhand pass this time and made a number of them in the fourth set when Federer started serve-volleying more, that's why he had so many breakpoint chances in that set. At the same time Federer was nervous early on, was trying to find a rhythm from the baseline and was being denied it because Roddick was hitting with such all-out aggression. However, if he thinks that's the way to beat Federer consistently he's deluded - playing at that level took so much out of him that he went down 4-0 instantly in the second set and was fortunate that Federer let him back in. Moreover, as the match wore on the giant 130mph second serves that Federer couldn't handle early on were replaced with his usual kickers out wide which he can return without too much difficulty.

bandabou
11-22-2004, 11:31 PM
6-3 6-2 is QUITE a beating.....20 points in a row, in your hometown.....ouch, gotta hurt.

I think Hewitt does have a point....Roger is untouchable...but Roddick is beatable. Itīs simple: get him in a rally....if you can manage to get that serve back, you can beat him....look at his record against good returners: Agassi, Hewitt, Federer and even Marat...Marat was just a couple of loose points here or there.

I think if Andy doesnīt bring something new next year, itīs gonna be even more difficult year for him.

Leena
11-22-2004, 11:36 PM
Itīs simple: get him in a rally....if you can manage to get that serve back, you can beat him
I'm sure players have known that for quite a while... and it's not that simple. :p

bandabou
11-22-2004, 11:50 PM
:lol: No, it isnīt.....that serve is tough.

Tennis Fool
11-25-2004, 04:15 AM
I'm looking forward to more Potato/Duck confrontations in 2005. :)