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Why does everyone doubt Gaudio?

LiZpHaIr
11-17-2004, 12:18 AM
He's the French Open Champion, beating very good players along the way to his win, He and Coria are probably the best claycourt players in the world, and he has one of(if not) the best backhands in the game.

People shouldn't underestimate him. :)

Chloe le Bopper
11-17-2004, 12:21 AM
Apparently it's the "in" thing to do around here.

LiZpHaIr
11-17-2004, 12:25 AM
Roddick bashing is what's "in"!!!!

Chloe le Bopper
11-17-2004, 12:34 AM
Roddick bashing is ALWAYS "in". I believe that this Gaudio thing is a passing phase.

Neely
11-17-2004, 12:55 AM
Sure, Coria and Gaudio absolutely rule on clay, but I only "doubt" Gaudio when playing on non-clay surfaces. You want to know why? Because he is posting negative records over the last few years on non-clay and because, away from clay, he couldn't win two matches in a row against anybody at any tournament the whole current season long.

cartmancop
11-17-2004, 01:14 AM
Yeh I think on clay that Gaudio can play with anyone. However he is yet to show that he can compete with the best on any other surface, which is what Coria was beginning to do b4 he got injured.

WyveN
11-17-2004, 01:27 AM
Because Gaudio is on hardcourt against the very best players in the world and given his results and lack of any consistency on fast courts it is no surprise most people doubt him. There is a difference between doubting and expecting him to lose each match 6-0 6-0 though.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 01:54 AM
He's the French Open Champion, beating very good players along the way to his win, He and Coria are probably the best claycourt players in the world, and he has one of(if not) the best backhands in the game.

People shouldn't underestimate him. :)
Very true. :)

haas'luv
11-17-2004, 02:25 AM
he rules on claycourt instead of hard one,so i dont expect him too much in the masters cup.anyway,as long as he plays 100%.:)

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 02:38 AM
It's an easy thing to do so that's why people do it.

He is not great on hardcourts and anyone with a half a brain would know that, but he can play very well at times on the surface, he is just inconsistent and is honest enough about his own abilities, but he is not going to lose 6-0 6-0 all the time on the surface.

Choupi
11-17-2004, 07:16 AM
Why does anyone doubt Gaudio?

Coz they don't know him very well

Coz he hasn't a good record on hard surfaces

Coz it's always easier to stand with what you consider to be a majority!

Coz they're too much biased !!!!!!!! ;)

*Ljubica*
11-17-2004, 07:40 AM
Why does anyone doubt Gaudio?

Coz they don't know him very well

Coz he hasn't a good record on hard surfaces

Coz it's always easier to stand with what you consider to be a majority!

Coz they're too much biased !!!!!!!! ;)

I agree. Though would also say a lot of the problem comes from the fact that Gaston sometimes doubts himself instead of believing in his own ability.

Choupi
11-17-2004, 12:02 PM
Yes Rosie, that's sure! But he's working on it! ;) And what he showed in the 2nd set against Federer encourages me to think so all the more. :worship:

User id 7816
11-17-2004, 01:36 PM
I say now's the time to string 2 wins in a row :devil:

Neely
11-17-2004, 03:09 PM
When I always read "Gaudio doubts himself", I'm really wondering what else he wants?! Maybe he should look at his Grand Slam trophy at home and repeat the words "I won a Grand Slam", "I won a Grand Slam", "I won a Grand Slam"....

Horatio Caine
11-17-2004, 04:03 PM
Why does everyone doubt him?.....because the guy at the MC is Glaudio! :)

Choupi
11-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Why does everyone doubt him?.....because the guy at the MC is Glaudio! :)

Come on! Is this really so difficult to type his name properly? Or do you suffer some particular and rare kind of inability with your fingers? :D ;)

Lala186
11-17-2004, 09:48 PM
One day ALEX CORRETJA TOLD GAUDIO THAT IF HE BELIEVED IN HIMSELF HE WOULD WIN ALL, BECAUSE HE HAD(OR HAS) A BIG TALENT.

It was said by a tennis journalist.

LiZpHaIr
11-17-2004, 09:53 PM
One day ALEX CORRETJA TOLD GAUDIO THAT IF HE BELIEVED IN HIMSELF HE WOULD WIN ALL, BECAUSE HE HAD(OR HAS) A BIG TALENT.

It was said by a tennis journalist.

Caps lock bastard. :(

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 08:35 AM
When I always read "Gaudio doubts himself", I'm really wondering what else he wants?! Maybe he should look at his Grand Slam trophy at home and repeat the words "I won a Grand Slam", "I won a Grand Slam", "I won a Grand Slam"....

Then again you might have never suffered from a massive lack of self confidence in your own abilities, if you had then it might be easier to comprehend.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 08:36 AM
Come on! Is this really so difficult to type his name properly? Or do you suffer some particular and rare kind of inability with your fingers? :D ;)

Come on have a sense of humor, jez is doing what is known as taking the piss by calling him Glaudio and there was a big smile to indicate this, and I will call him Glaudio on occasion.

hitchhiker
11-18-2004, 09:15 AM
all i need is for hewitt to beat this clay court clown in 2 sets and i am rich. hope everyone heard the boos when the clay man called Gaudio broke his racket because it was me.

why did gaudio have to ruin the group, agassi against these guys would be far better and he would at least be able to win a set.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:23 AM
:yawn:

WyveN
11-18-2004, 09:25 AM
If Agassi won a slam like Gaudio he would be at Houston, simple really.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Hewitt and Gaudio who won more games in their matches against Federer?

hitchhiker
11-18-2004, 09:31 AM
Hewitt and Gaudio who won more games in their matches against Federer?

Gaudio fans are getting desperate. winning sets/matches looks out of the question so we are doing a count back of games to "prove" that Gaudio was a worthy competitor at the championships :haha: :haha:

who won more games vs Moya?

baghdatis won more games against federer then hewitt does that mean we make baghdatis us open runner up?

me and my friends laughed at gaudios socks as he was walking off and he looked like he was ready to murder us :haha: :lol:

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:33 AM
He won a Slam, he is there and no amount of booing from you is going to stop that, and you need to boo louder as I was looking for you in the crowd.

Who is desparate? Just remember who didn't face the music after the Wimbledon final?

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:33 AM
Come on hitchhiker I know you have much better potential for humour, these are disappointing efforts.

*Ljubica*
11-18-2004, 09:45 AM
Brilliant answers GWH and WyveN. I was tempted to get involved, but I'm at work, and arguing with trolls like HH takes too much time and energy when I'm working. You guys are so great though - you don't need me!

Mrs. B
11-18-2004, 09:57 AM
hh's in Houston and has put up a pie stand. :lol:

what's your prediction this time, dude? ;)

hitchhiker
11-18-2004, 10:00 AM
hh's in Houston and has put up a pie stand. :lol:

what's your prediction this time, dude? ;)


no pies for houston. need extra supplies so i can have more pies for davis cup final where a lot of posters on mtf will be experiencing my cuisine up close and personal but more on that later.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:04 AM
so hitchhiker what odds do you have on the US winning the Davis Cup, what did they give you at the bookmakers?

hitchhiker
11-18-2004, 10:07 AM
so hitchhiker what odds do you have on the US winning the Davis Cup, what did they give you at the bookmakers?

best odds are on mtf. 50 pies thrown at face for every American set won.
USA USA USA

i will be announcing my actual betting closer to final once i cash in with gaudio.

hitchhiker
11-18-2004, 10:08 AM
i got a feeling davis cup final will end up like rocky 4 where spanish crowd gets inspired by americans and start cheering for them

WyveN
11-18-2004, 10:09 AM
i got a feeling davis cup final will end up like rocky 4 where spanish crowd gets inspired by americans and start cheering for them

:tape: That is definetly worth a bet at the bookies dont you think?

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 10:14 AM
.... but he is not going to lose 6-0 6-0 all the time on the surface.

Of course not! Those are special treatments mostly honored in finals. ;)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:15 AM
best odds are on mtf. 50 pies thrown at face for every American set won.
USA USA USA

i will be announcing my actual betting closer to final once i cash in with gaudio.

I am talking about the US winning the Davis Cup are willing to put your mouth on the line for that one.

As for the Spanish crowd cheering the Americans, now that would be very good odds.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:16 AM
Of course not! That's a special treatment mostly honored in finals. ;)

Well I wouldn't know he has never been bageled by Federer unlike some more illustrious players. :)

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 10:22 AM
Guess those still called illustrious players had to win many matches against others untill bageled by God Fed. At least they are there in finals.

sparkus8
11-18-2004, 10:22 AM
Well I wouldn't know he has never been bageled by Federer unlike some more illustrious players. :)

Well if Gaudio ever made a final outside of the claycourt season he might gain that honour! ;)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:24 AM
Guess those still called illustrious players had to win many matches against others untill bageled by God Fed. At least they are there in finals.

You do know there is a difference between 4th round, quarter finals, semi finals and finals don't you? Yes, I thought so.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 10:31 AM
You do know there is a difference between 4th round, quarter finals, semi finals and finals don't you? Yes, I thought so.

Oh dear, the best record he had on hard court was 3rd round this year (the 1st round bye) in Indian Wells. So the answer is no. I haven't got chance to learn quater, semi or final finals from that records yet. :)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:32 AM
Oh dear, the best record he had on hard court was 3rd round this year (the 1st round bye) in Indian Wells. So the answer is no. I haven't got chance to learn quater, semi or final finals from that records yet. :)

Oh, thanks for taking the bait.

sparkus8
11-18-2004, 10:48 AM
I dont know about you guys, but how do you manage to win a grand slam tournament and still not be able to get into the top 8 of the points race.

Has this ever happened before??

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 10:48 AM
Oh, thanks for taking the bait.

I hope you have sth in your little bucket after some hard work. ;) It's a false comparison if you want to make point here. A valid comparison will be in next two days a match between potato vs. Gaudio, and we will see soon. :)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:50 AM
I dont know about you guys, but how do you manage to win a grand slam tournament and still not be able to get into the top 8 of the points race.

Has this ever happened before??

Cool for your benefit I will repeat this. The year was 2002 and both Thomas Johansson who won the Aus Open and Albert Costa who won the French Open, both managed to finish outside the top 8.

Johansson was ranked higher and got into the field, and Costa was the alternate.

So the answer is yes.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:52 AM
I hope you have sth in your little bucket after some hard work. ;) It's a false comparison if you want to make point here. A valid comparison will be in next two days a match between potato vs. Gaudio, and we will see soon. :)

You've got nothing on me and it's not my fault you can't see that I am not exactly being serious in this thread. What were you doing before Federer started dominating the tour?

jtipson
11-18-2004, 10:54 AM
Cool for your benefit I will repeat this. The year was 2002 and both Thomas Johansson who won the Aus Open and Albert Costa who won the French Open, both managed to finish outside the top 8.

Johansson was ranked higher and got into the field, and Costa was the alternate.

So the answer is yes.

Pete Sampras also finished outside the top 8, so in fact in 2002 there was only one slam winner (Hewitt) of the four who managed to make the TMC field by qualifying in the top 8. I think Sampras didn't fancy being the alternate, which was why Johansson was offered it.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:58 AM
Pete Sampras also finished outside the top 8, so in fact in 2002 there was only one slam winner (Hewitt) of the four who managed to make the TMC field by qualifying in the top 8. I think Sampras didn't fancy being the alternate, which was why Johansson was offered it.

Thanks for that jtip I didn't think Sampras would have been too keen on going to Shanghai, then again neither was Agassi, but your alternate theory sounds very good.

btw, how was Norway?

sparkus8
11-18-2004, 11:00 AM
Cool for your benefit I will repeat this. The year was 2002 and both Thomas Johansson who won the Aus Open and Albert Costa who won the French Open, both managed to finish outside the top 8.

Johansson was ranked higher and got into the field, and Costa was the alternate.

So the answer is yes.

I was thinking of Costa, totally forgot about Tojo.

How come Costa wasn't in the main field, I thought if you won a grand slam you were straight in?? Or have they changed that since then??

bad gambler
11-18-2004, 11:02 AM
sparky it's the best finshed grand slam winner outside the top 8 - i believe tojo was the one that year

good to see u in the GM threads ;)

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:04 AM
You've got nothing on me and it's not my fault you can't see that I am not exactly being serious in this thread. What were you doing before Federer started dominating the tour?

I though you are not into fishing for nothing. :sad:

sparkus8
11-18-2004, 11:08 AM
Thanks for clearing that up BG.

Figured I would have a look in here to see what was going on and I stumbled upon a lively debate - quite interesting!

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:10 AM
I was thinking of Costa, totally forgot about Tojo.

How come Costa wasn't in the main field, I thought if you won a grand slam you were straight in?? Or have they changed that since then??

Because they both won Slams and Johansson was ranked higher and jtipson said Sampras was actually ranked higher than Johansson, but didn't take his place, and then Costa was next in line after Tojo.

The rule is the same, it's just what happened when there was a different scenario like that. It's like if Nalbandian won a Slam, he would have been in instead of Gaudio.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:11 AM
I though you are not into fishing for nothing. :sad:

Difference between fishing and observing.

Choupi
11-18-2004, 11:12 AM
Come on have a sense of humor, jez is doing what is known as taking the piss by calling him Glaudio and there was a big smile to indicate this, and I will call him Glaudio on occasion.

I do have sense of humour! I've also put some smile and wink after my remark!
I'm surprised you haven't pointed it out! :D ;)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:14 AM
I do have sense of humour! I also put some smile and wink after my remark!
I'm surprised you haven't pointed it out! :D ;)

I am being very silly and Glaudio actually doesn't sound that bad.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:16 AM
[QUOTE=federer_roar]using bait to observe? what a fishy way to observe. :eek:

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:16 AM
using bait to observe? :eek:

Is it my fault that you fawn over Federer? No. I happen to love the way he plays, and how he conducts himself on and off court and he is a great example for children to look up to, but this does not mean he is a God.

Choupi
11-18-2004, 11:18 AM
I am being very silly and Glaudio actually doesn't sound that bad.

Oh no GWH, don't feel that silly way! Of course Glaudio sounds fun but I doubt every poster using it to have the same intentions as you and me. ;)

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:19 AM
Is it my fault that you fawn over Federer? No. I happen to love the way he plays, and how he conducts himself on and off court and he is a great example for children to look up to, but this does not mean he is a God.

Great observation this time.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:22 AM
Great observation this time.

Yes, you are a fawner that's obvious. If you want to talk to me about tennis topics, please feel free and we'll see how good your observation skills really are.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:29 AM
Yes, you are a fawner that's obvious. If you want to talk to me about tennis topics, please feel free and we'll see how good your observation skills really are.
It's you trying to observe, not me. Is this time my fault again? :mad: I am having my fish soup. em, yummy. :D

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:33 AM
It's you trying to observe, not me. Is this time my fault again? :mad: I am having my fish soup. em, yummy. :D

Yes, I blame you for the US election result.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:34 AM
Yes, you are a fawner that's obvious. If you want to talk to me about tennis topics, please feel free and we'll see how good your observation skills really are.

A bad start. :confused: If discussions like this off topic miles away, I wonder where're your general observation skills. :eek:

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:36 AM
Yes, I blame you for the US election result.
:topic:

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:43 AM
A bad start. :confused: If discussions like this off topic miles away, I wonder where're your general observation skills. :eek:

You are making me laugh so just keep entertaining me and that's fine. Go and read some of my posts on tennis topics and in the Federer forum and you'll see how much of a clown I am.

Back to the original subject, no one thought Gaudio was going to win this event, and the other thread was a joke about the excuses, and he hasn't been a joke at this tournament and all it has shown that he wasn't good enough to win these matches on the given day and was never going to beat Federer.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 11:54 AM
Well I wouldn't know he has never been bageled by Federer unlike some more illustrious players. :)

This is where you left. BTW, I wouldn't bother to check your posts. Obviously you are a clown as you yourself said. A mean one. ;)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 11:58 AM
This is where you left. BTW, I wouldn't bother to check your posts. Obviously you are a clown as you yourself said. A mean one. ;)

I am actually onto the topic of Gaudio's performances in this tournament, you have missed the program.

To address that previous point, he has never lost 6-0 to Federer and no matter what is said this is a fact.

Mean, you have the wrong person.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 12:02 PM
I am actually onto the topic of Gaudio's performances in this tournament, you have missed the program.

To address that previous point, he has never lost 6-0 to Federer and no matter what is said this is a fact.

Mean, you have the wrong person.

and I was suggesting he should have at least got into finals to get bagels.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 12:07 PM
and I was suggesting he should have at least got into finals to get bagels.

I think you might have noticed that it's easier to hand out bagels in the early rounds, and it doesn't matter what round players reach a bagel is a bagel and it's embarassing for the bagelled player.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 12:09 PM
I am actually onto the topic of Gaudio's performances in this tournament, you have missed the program.

To address that previous point, he has never lost 6-0 to Federer and no matter what is said this is a fact.

Mean, you have the wrong person.
of course I don't expect you agree. It's like Coria would not agree if others call him a weasel.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 12:14 PM
I think you might have noticed that it's easier to hand out bagels in the early rounds, and it doesn't matter what round players reach a bagel is a bagel and it's embarassing for the bagelled player.

Don't force me to find out among 12 bagels Roger sent this year, how many were during finals and how many in the early rounds.

You got to do some work. And I thought it's less embrassing to be bagelled by the best player at the moment in a final than in early rounds.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 12:23 PM
Don't force me to find out among 12 bagels Roger sent this year, how many were during finals and how many in the early rounds.

You got to do some work. And I thought it's less embrassing to be bagelled by the best player at the moment in a final than in early rounds.

You should know that if you are a Federer fan who his victims were and yes I do know them.

No, you have work to do and it's obvious to someone reasonably well rounded that any player getting a bagel is embarassing no matter the situation, though it is magnified if there are more people at that match.

Coria is still a weasel.

federer_roar
11-18-2004, 12:36 PM
You should know that if you are a Federer fan who his victims were and yes I do know them.

No, you have work to do and it's obvious to someone reasonably well rounded that any player getting a bagel is embarassing no matter the situation, though it is magnified if there are more people at that match.

Coria is still a weasel.

Is it my fault again that you missed the "less than" comparison in my sentence?

Just to cut the crap, wait untill Gaudio into hard court finals then talk about bagels record.

Yep, you are still a mean clown.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 12:43 PM
Is it my fault again that you missed the "less than" comparison in my sentence?

Just to cut the crap, wait untill Gaudio into hard court finals then talk about bagels record.

Yep, you are still a mean clown.

A bagel is a bagel and whoever gets it, it's embarassing for them. Yes, even the player you fawn so much over has been bagelled before.

Is it not my fault you are great amusement value, please keep it up. Since when has this been about Gaudio making hardcourt finals?

Chloe le Bopper
11-18-2004, 01:15 PM
Gaudio got as many games from Roger as Lleyton did ;)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 01:17 PM
Gaudio got as many games from Roger as Lleyton did ;)

Congratulations for the right answer. :)

Chloe le Bopper
11-18-2004, 01:19 PM
Did somebody already mention that? I didn't read the last page :D

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 01:20 PM
Did somebody alread mention that? I didn't read the last page :D

I knew the answer to the question, and I actually asked the question, but I am glad you didn't read the last page, it was only excrement.

Chloe le Bopper
11-18-2004, 01:21 PM
I'll keep that in mind and not bother :D

Chloe le Bopper
11-18-2004, 01:21 PM
Time to catch the buuuuus. Enjoy the tennis today, if you get to!

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 01:25 PM
I will be watching the Hippo mauling Duck.

Lee
11-18-2004, 05:16 PM
Cool for your benefit I will repeat this. The year was 2002 and both Thomas Johansson who won the Aus Open and Albert Costa who won the French Open, both managed to finish outside the top 8.

Johansson was ranked higher and got into the field, and Costa was the alternate.

So the answer is yes.

I think Costa was in and Johansson was the alternate. Johansson played one match in RR after Agassi run out of the tournament :o

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 05:19 PM
I think Costa was in and Johansson was the alternate. Johansson played one match in RR after Agassi run out of the tournament :o

You are probably right I was out travelling when that tournament was on, but the principles are exactly the same and whoever had the higher ranking got into the field, then the next one was the alternate.