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Red Group, Match 1 : Roger Federer d. Gaston Gaudio 6-1, 7-6(4)

Raquel
11-15-2004, 10:53 PM
Well done Roger - good win on your comeback :yeah:

lina_seta
11-15-2004, 10:59 PM
uhh.. the match would have ended 30 mins earlier if he had converted any more breakpoints... 2/14 BP!....
but anyway! the statistics show there can be no comparison between them...
well done ROGER!!! at least he confirms that he is in good shape

for those skeptics.. GAUDIO???! (hehehe!)

David Kenzie
11-15-2004, 10:59 PM
Well done Roger !
he didn't face a single break point :yeah:

Mrs. B
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
:bounce:

Domino
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
Gaudio was actually brilliant in saving those breakpoints. I give credit to Federer to being able to finish the match when he did. Gaudio showed some glimpse of ability to win today, and he could very well beat Hewitt and Moya with this kind of form, but then again, he'll probably choke. Who knows; good win Roger. This is the kind of match he needed to polish his game for later.

lucashg
11-15-2004, 11:01 PM
Great match by both. Federer showed off a great performance, although he did waste a lot of opportunities to break Gaudio's serve. But let's not discredit Gaudio because his showing of good mentality and game in delicated moments was the reason of the tie-break in the second set.

I'm glad Federer won, now he gets more confidence for his next matches. Keep it up, Rogi!

Havok
11-15-2004, 11:03 PM
Was expected.:) Nice win

jazz_girl
11-15-2004, 11:04 PM
Congratulations Federer!!!
And I was happy to watch Gaudio playing so well :yeah: I think he can win some matches if he keeps up this level!

Roger-No.1
11-15-2004, 11:05 PM
Bravo Rogi!!!! :bounce:

Roger-No.1
11-15-2004, 11:06 PM
And I was happy to watch Gaudio playing so well :yeah: I think he can win some matches if he keeps up this level!

That would be great. :yeah:

RonE
11-15-2004, 11:08 PM
Well, as was to be expected it was a tough tussle in the end- from the matches I have seen between them it always took Gaudio a set to settle down and then when he does that is when he really starts to trouble Rogi.

As was mentioned on a vast majority of the BPs Federer didn't give them away, rather Gaudio won them.

The thing that baffles me the most about Gaudio is that he looks so mediocre and incompetent for a few points in succession, and then when his back is to the wall he suddenly transforms himself and starts playing unbelievable tennis. If only he could play the way he did when he saved the BPs during the entire match he would be top 5 material. But then again, there is no point in getting into 'what ifs'.

I am glad that Roger got through and by doing so has hopefully shaken off the rust from not playing for so long. I am optimistic he will improve in his next matches- and of course to walk away with the win under his belt takes off a lot of the pressure and gives him more margin for error for the rest of his group stage matches. Well done :D :yeah: :bounce: :banana:

Jorge
11-15-2004, 11:13 PM
Phase one, accomplished :yeah:

Neely
11-15-2004, 11:14 PM
Except the 2nd set tiebreak which was only decided by one single mini-break, there was no chance for Gaudio in the whole match even though score-wise he was able to make it look close in the 2nd set. Gaudio didn't have a break point in the whole match but did a brilliant job on fighting to hold own serve saving all those break points of Federer in the 2nd set. At the end it was a bit too tough for Gaudio to overcome the fact that he could get almost no points on Roger's serve whereas Roger breezed through in his service games most of the time. With circumstances like that it's hard to win a tiebreak. But if Gaudio can play like in the 2nd set again, his chances are increasing against Moya and/or Hewitt.

Fergie
11-15-2004, 11:15 PM
Rogi played very good, great comeback :worship:

RonE
11-15-2004, 11:17 PM
Except the 2nd set tiebreak which was only decided by one single mini-break, there was no chance for Gaudio in the whole match even though score-wise he was able to make it look close in the 2nd set. Gaudio didn't have a break point in the whole match but did a brilliant job on fighting to hold own serve saving all those break points of Federer in the 2nd set. At the end it was a bit too tough for Gaudio to overcome the fact that he could get almost no points on Roger's serve whereas Roger breezed through in his service games most of the time. With circumstances like that it's hard to win a tiebreak. But if Gaudio can play like in the 2nd set again, his chances are increasing against Moya and/or Hewitt.

Yes, but if Gaudio would have somehow won the tie-break, even if you are Roger Federer and you are holding serve easily, the knowledge that you had so many missed chances can catch up with you and then Gaudio might have grown in confidence and made the breakthrough on Federer's serve in set #3. Therefore, it was imperative that Federer finished him off in that tie-break.

Neely
11-15-2004, 11:29 PM
Yes, but if Gaudio would have somehow won the tie-break, even if you are Roger Federer and you are holding serve easily, the knowledge that you had so many missed chances can catch up with you and then Gaudio might have grown in confidence and made the breakthrough on Federer's serve in set #3. Therefore, it was imperative that Federer finished him off in that tie-break.
Sure, we've seen it thousands of times that it doesn't necessarily mean much for the tie-break if player A was holding serve the whole set long quite comfortably without facing a break point and player B could get just a hand full of receiving points and always had to fight hard to hold his own service games. Then, it suddendly changed in the tiebreak and B wins the breaker.

Adam Thirnis
11-15-2004, 11:30 PM
I don't like Federer's hair flopping everywhere. I prefer to see a neat and tidy Fed moving smoothly around the court. At the moment he looks a bit mad like Kuerten.

yanchr
11-15-2004, 11:30 PM
You see that's why I love watching these two guys play against each other. So much fun and enjoyment! Great job Roger! I never have expected such performance from Roger after the long break. Brilliant:worship: though those loads of waste BP chances, but you have to give all credit to Gaudio for playing so well on those points. Gaudio, I never write him off against Roger. Today he showed what he is capable of. Thanks Gaudio and the also brilliant perfomance:yeah:, bringing the match longer so that I can watch Roger longer ;) Roger was in full control of the match, so I never for a minute got into the nerves ;) Now I'm quite sure about his health condition.:bounce:

I hope Gaudio can keep up his form of the 2nd set along into his next matches.

RonE
11-15-2004, 11:35 PM
Sure, we've seen it thousands of times that it doesn't necessarily mean much for the tie-break if player A was holding serve the whole set long quite comfortably without facing a break point and player B could get just a hand full of receiving points and always had to fight hard to hold his own service games. Then, it suddendly changed in the tiebreak and B wins the breaker.

Yes thats right.

In a way I had a sinking feeling of 'deja-vu' when Federer lost all those break-points. Reminded me a lot of his match against Hrbaty in Cincinnati this year where he got off to a flyer as a result of Hrbaty being less than himself (6-1 first set to Roger). And then he had ample chances to break in set #2, didn't take them, match went to a tb, Hrbaty squeaked through the tb and went on to wear Roger down to take the third set and the match with it.

yanchr
11-15-2004, 11:37 PM
I don't like Federer's hair flopping everywhere. I prefer to see a neat and tidy Fed moving smoothly around the court. At the moment he looks a bit mad like Kuerten.
I'm just the opposite. I think I won't miss his ponytail much often now seeing him play in the new image. I love the flying hair, so much vividness and energy, and look much younger, matching well with his agressiveness. Though I also agree his neat image with the ponytail matches well with his cool look and the elegance on court :lol:

tennischick
11-15-2004, 11:41 PM
what? no excuses for Gaudio winning a few games? :p :p

WyveN
11-15-2004, 11:53 PM
Very good performance from Roger considering the break, could have been easier in the second set but as others have said Gaudio really raised his game on the break points.

Gaudio can certainly trouble Hewitt and Moya if he can keep this level of play up but perhaps it will be difficult as in this match he had absolutely nothing to lose and he played like that especially during the break points.

naiwen
11-16-2004, 12:19 AM
I don't like Federer's hair flopping everywhere. I prefer to see a neat and tidy Fed moving smoothly around the court. At the moment he looks a bit mad like Kuerten.

Errr, but he looked like a right-handed Lopez before TMS Toronto. :eek:

BlackSilver
11-16-2004, 12:21 AM
but perhaps it will be difficult as in this match he had absolutely nothing to lose and he played like that especially during the break points.

Perhaps, but not necessarily, Gaudio may be thinking like this: " I don't like of playing on this surface. I am the underdog here and don't have any obligation"
With this kind of thought, he can stay calm during the matches and keep playing well

Chloe le Bopper
11-16-2004, 12:52 AM
what? no excuses for Gaudio winning a few games? :p :p
:lol:

Good job Roger, I hope he wins the tournament. There are a couple players that I like better than him there, but it would be most "fitting" for 2004 if he won it again.

I'm also glad to see that Gaston kept it tight in the second set :)

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 01:45 AM
what? no excuses for Gaudio winning a few games? :p :p

:)

It was when he wins a set, that the excuses will come out and if he played like he did in the second set, there is a greater chance of that happening. :)

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 01:59 AM
I always enjoy when these two guys play each other I enjoy the play of these two, though I am not always keen on the results.

Well what I can I say about this match, except that considering that Roger hasn't played for a while and Gaston hasn't had much tennis recently it was quite a good match considering the conditions.

Gaston in the 1st set looked very overawed and was nervous and made too many errors and can't do that against the player who is clearly the best in the world. Roger was hitting some very good shots and he was keeping Gaston off balance. One thing Roger did very well was the use of the dropshot, which for him was is his weakest shot, but used them at the right time.

The second set was very entertaining and I am happy that Gaston showed courage in fighting off all those break points, and there was some very nice moments in the match, in the first set when Gaston hit the passing shot, and Federer makes the volley, Gaston hits a good lob and then Federer hits the smash with the frame and it ends up being a back spinning winner and then when they crossed at the change of ends, they hit hands in a friendly gesture.

Sure Roger's break point conversion rate wasn't great, but Gaudio did lift his game numerous times and there were some great angles, and strategy shown and no brainless tennis out there, which made me appreciate it more.

Another thing I noticed was that Gaston when he had the chance to pass Roger, he didn't vary them enough and on the backhand side he hit too many down the line, and should have mixed it up more, but Roger pulled out some great volleys, especially a drop half volley off an excellent viciously spun crosscourt forehand by Gaudio.

Hats off to Roger, he continues his undefeated record and will only improve from here and that is only bad news for his future opponents. His serving was outstanding just put them in the right positions and moved around well, plus Gaston didn't do enough with the returns he did get in.

Gaston showed what he is capable of in that second set, and if he can cut down the errors, then he has some chances to win one of his next two matches, and for him the most difficult opponent is gone.

Denise
11-16-2004, 02:09 AM
it's nice roggi played quite well after long time without playin' !
7-6 :eek:

Denise
11-16-2004, 02:18 AM
more pics ;)

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 02:29 AM
Errr, but he looked like a right-handed Lopez before TMS Toronto. :eek:

Excuse me?? This is an insult to Rogi... not that I don't like Feli, I do, but he's a mere % of Rogi... if you're talking about his looks, well, you can be excused to a certain extent... :p ;)

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 02:31 AM
Excuse me?? This is an insult to Rogi... not that I don't like Feli, I do, but he's a mere % of Rogi... if you're talking about his looks, well, you can be excused to a certain extent... :p ;)

Rogi has a backhand that's the main difference.

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 03:05 AM
true, true, George... but I am glad that Feli finally won his first tourney in Vienna this year... note that Rogi was NOT there...

federer_roar
11-16-2004, 03:11 AM
Errr, but he looked like a right-handed Lopez before TMS Toronto. :eek:

Sorry i don't buy it! Roger is way more stylish than Lopez. :mad:

Billabong
11-16-2004, 03:45 AM
WOW Rogi:worship:! Keep it up:yeah:!

Neely
11-16-2004, 05:16 AM
The match featured lots of unbelievable rallies, great shots by both players. I'm actually quite impressed by Gaudio's good performance, definitely his best non-clay match I have seen this year. The 6-1 in the 1st set sounds too one-sided; but the games were very intense. It's going to be interesting if Gaudio can deliver the same performance in one of his next two remaining matches.

Concerning Federer: scratch and forget all excuses of the famous "excuse thread" for Federer ;) Somebody who plays such unbelievable rallies and somebody who moves as smoothly as he did in this match, does have no excuse...

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 05:20 AM
So is Gaudio the big dud that nearly everyone thinks he is going to be in this tournament?

RonE
11-16-2004, 06:10 AM
So is Gaudio the big dud that nearly everyone thinks he is going to be in this tournament?

Far from it- I think had he won the 2nd set Roger would have been in deep trouble.

His problem is (and always has been) that he is too 'in and out' in his matches. He plays a few nothing points in succession and then suddenly when he is break point down he turns the screw. If he can find a way to play consistently the way he played many of the bp's in the Federer match, I can definitely see him winning against Moya and perhaps even Lleyton- if not win then at least push him really hard :)

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 06:16 AM
Far from it- I think had he won the 2nd set Roger would have been in deep trouble.

Actually I never expected Gaston to win this match at all or even win that 2nd set, but the way some people and commentators went on, like he was going to lose 6-0 6-0 in every match.

His problem is (and always has been) that he is too 'in and out' in his matches. He plays a few nothing points in succession and then suddenly when he is break point down he turns the screw. If he can find a way to play consistently the way he played many of the bp's in the Federer match, I can definitely see him winning against Moya and perhaps even Lleyton- if not win then at least push him really hard :)

The problem is called a lack of a belief in his own ability, that's what it comes down to. I mean it was posted another thread the wins he has had on hardcourts, so it's not a question of whether he can play on the surface or not, it's whether he can believe he can play well on it consistently.

While Federer was serving very well and high percentage of 1st serves, Gaudio didn't get enough returns into court.

The way it sounds it would be the biggest upset of all time if he beat Moya or Hewitt. :)

liptea
11-16-2004, 06:18 AM
Good job, Roger! :worship:

And, Gaston, we love you because you put up a fight. :D

J. Corwin
11-16-2004, 06:21 AM
I'm watchin the match now :)..good play from both guys. Ah! Just saw a nice drop from Fed. ;)

RonE
11-16-2004, 06:21 AM
The problem is called a lack of a belief in his own ability, that's what it comes down to. I mean it was posted another thread the wins he has had on hardcourts, so it's not a question of whether he can play on the surface or not, it's whether he can believe he can play well on it consistently.



Yes that's what I meant by 'in and out'. Seems at times he forgets he can play good tennis. I think the point at 4-3 to Federer in the tie-break was a pretty good illustration of that. He fought so hard to stay on serve with Federer, was already a mini-break down in the tie-break but got it back to get back on serve. Then serving at 3-4 he just dumps a crosscourt backhand into the net to give Federer the mini-break lead again.

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 06:41 AM
I'm watchin the match now :)..good play from both guys. Ah! Just saw a nice drop from Fed. ;)

Enjoy the second set. I am going to watch the replay again later on tonight.

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 06:44 AM
Yes that's what I meant by 'in and out'. Seems at times he forgets he can play good tennis. I think the point at 4-3 to Federer in the tie-break was a pretty good illustration of that. He fought so hard to stay on serve with Federer, was already a mini-break down in the tie-break but got it back to get back on serve. Then serving at 3-4 he just dumps a crosscourt backhand into the net to give Federer the mini-break lead again.

Don't forget the opponent, most players know that when they are playing Federer that they feel they have to hit even better shots, but even in the tiebreaker I had the feeling that he wasn't going to win it.

You are not a hardened Gaudio fan RonE, it takes a lot for me to be surprised from what I see from him on a tennis court good or bad.

His best shot broke down and that was a feature of the Federer game at how well his backhand stood up in the 2nd set, but I do wish Gaudio did vary the direction of his passing shots more.

Daniel
11-16-2004, 06:44 AM
well done Roger :D

RonE
11-16-2004, 06:50 AM
His best shot broke down and that was a feature of the Federer game at how well his backhand stood up in the 2nd set, but I do wish Gaudio did vary the direction of his passing shots more.

Yes, I did find it surprising because he can make some dazzling passes especially on the B/H. Then again Roger showed great athletic abilties and reflexes at the net so maybe that added to the pressure.

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 06:54 AM
Yes, I did find it surprising because he can make some dazzling passes especially on the B/H. Then again Roger showed great athletic abilties and reflexes at the net so maybe that added to the pressure.

Of course Roger was very good at the net in this match and you can see Gaudio shaking his head, but he was outplayed by a better player and the better player deserved to win. It's Roger's anticipation that is better than anyone else on the tour, so the backhand dtl wasn't working as often, so Gaston could have done some sharp crosscourt rolls to mix it up.

The second set was what a TMC should have, and credit to Gaudio for not making as many errors and making Roger earn the win.

hitchhiker
11-16-2004, 06:55 AM
with the form hewitt and moya are in my bets are looking good

RPH
11-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Roger :worship:

Although losing 7 games to Gaudio :o but 1st match in a while so :)

jtipson
11-16-2004, 05:41 PM
Roger :worship:

Although losing 7 games to Gaudio :o but 1st match in a while so :)

I wouldn't be surprised if Moya and Hewitt lose rather more than seven games to Gaudio.

Fernando Borda
11-16-2004, 06:00 PM
Good game Roger!.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 01:46 AM
This was a fun match; alot of fun points. :) I am glad at how Gaston really fought hard in the 2nd set, and pushed Federer, almost taking it to a 3rd. :)

Fedex
11-17-2004, 01:52 AM
Don't forget the opponent, most players know that when they are playing Federer that they feel they have to hit even better shots, but even in the tiebreaker I had the feeling that he wasn't going to win it.

You are not a hardened Gaudio fan RonE, it takes a lot for me to be surprised from what I see from him on a tennis court good or bad.

His best shot broke down and that was a feature of the Federer game at how well his backhand stood up in the 2nd set, but I do wish Gaudio did vary the direction of his passing shots more.
I really enjoyed the backhand exchanges in here, between 2 of the prettiest one handed backhands in tennis. :) It seemed to me, that both had difficulty breaking down the other's backhand, so the majority of the backhand winners in this match, were down the line shots. I really like watching these two play, great stuff. :)