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ESPN should give up all tennis coverage

tennisphan
11-15-2004, 07:04 PM
I'm sorry, but when there is a LIVE MAJOR event going on, WHY does ESPN show programs such as "NFL MONDAY QUARTERBACK" and "NFL FILMS PRESENTS", which can be aired anytime. WE WANT OUR LIVE TENNIS!!!

This is absolutely crazy!!!


The USTA and every tennis playing American wants tennis to be a bigger part of the sporting scene in America, but without the LIVE coverage, how can this be done?

The Tennis channel has to make themselves available to all homes with cable FOR FREE (just like the F'ing GOLF channel). I donít know if thatís a network decision, a cable decision, or what, but without coverage, the game will not grow popularity among the youth (future)

Obviously a great solution would be to have tennis channel cover all tennis around the world, which they do an EXCELLENT job doing the weeks they have the rights, but not everyone has tennis channel. In fact, i'd be VERY surprised if 5% of households in America even have the tennis channel.

The tennis channel has done an AMAZING job in its first couple of years, and in order for the sport to grow in the US, the coverage must be made more readily available. Once, and if, and that 'if' is a maybe, this happens, maybe then we can get tennis on the TENNIS CHANNEL and away from ESPN and let them play re-runs of whatever football programs, hunting shows, or billiards, as they see fit.

(not to mention that the tennis channel commentators are FAR SUPERIOR to ESPN, esp Mal Washington who insults everything and everyone, most likely because heís bitter he didnít have such a great career).

<<end rant>>

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:07 PM
I'm sorry, but when there is a LIVE MAJOR event going on, WHY does ESPN show programs such as "NFL MONDAY QUARTERBACK" and "NFL FILMS PRESENTS", which can be aired anytime. WE WANT OUR LIVE TENNIS!!!

This is absolutely crazy!!!


The USTA and every tennis playing American wants tennis to be a bigger part of the sporting scene in America, but without the LIVE coverage, how can this be done?

The Tennis channel has to make themselves available to all homes with cable FOR FREE (just like the F'ing GOLF channel). I donít know if thatís a network decision, a cable decision, or what, but without coverage, the game will not grow popularity among the youth (future)

Obviously a great solution would be to have tennis channel cover all tennis around the world, which they do an EXCELLENT job doing the weeks they have the rights, but not everyone has tennis channel. In fact, i'd be VERY surprised if 5% of households in America even have the tennis channel.

The tennis channel has done an AMAZING job in its first couple of years, and in order for the sport to grow in the US, the coverage must be made more readily available. Once, and if, and that 'if' is a maybe, this happens, maybe then we can get tennis on the TENNIS CHANNEL and away from ESPN and let them play re-runs of whatever football programs, hunting shows, or billiards, as they see fit.

(not to mention that the tennis channel commentators are FAR SUPERIOR to ESPN, esp Mal Washington who insults everything and everyone, most likely because heís bitter he didnít have such a great career).

<<end rant>>

Hello! :wavey:

The problem is that the Tennis Channel is not available on regular cable or dish sateillite (sp?), I think it's only availible on certain types of cable providers that isn't available to a lot of people.

The fact that we're even getting tennis coverage is a huge step forward for ESPN, I remember when we used to get next to nothing at crap times.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 07:15 PM
I get the tennis channel and they are only covering the doubles. ESPN has the rights to all the good stuff...like singles matches of the majors.

Mrs. B
11-15-2004, 07:17 PM
you should have Eurosport in the States. ;)

tennisphan
11-15-2004, 07:21 PM
I get the tennis channel and they are only covering the doubles. ESPN has the rights to all the good stuff...like singles matches of the majors.

Yes, I know. This is waht I'm saying they should give up. ESPN does not even play the matches live. Do they really get more $ for the advertising slots during sportfishing?

Whats the deal here?

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:21 PM
you should have Eurosport in the States. ;)


I wish!

They have Moya-Hewitt on at midnight, which means that it's being played live at 11:00 at night. Which it's not.

And midnight is after curfew in the dorms, so I can't even SEE Moya. :sad:

knight_ley
11-15-2004, 07:27 PM
I wish!

They have Moya-Hewitt on at midnight, which means that it's being played live at 11:00 at night. Which it's not.

And midnight is after curfew in the dorms, so I can't even SEE Moya. :sad:


wait it's hewitt / moya tonight? i thought they were showing Federer's match tonight...?? how do you know its hewitt/moya?? :confused:

Lee
11-15-2004, 07:31 PM
wait it's hewitt / moya tonight? i thought they were showing Federer's match tonight...?? how do you know its hewitt/moya?? :confused:

It's announced in ESPN web site today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvlistings/scheduleSport?date=20041116&sport=TN

Fumus
11-15-2004, 07:32 PM
Yes, I know. This is waht I'm saying they should give up. ESPN does not even play the matches live. Do they really get more $ for the advertising slots during sportfishing?

Whats the deal here?

Well you guys want this to change become Andy fans and root for him to be number 1. You will see alot more tennis at that point on ESPN. As long as the number 1 is either a robot or non-american you can expect ESPN or any other American broadcaster not to care about the smaller events. It's really bad right now because the number 1 is super dominant, he's a robot, and he's not American. Amount of tennis coverage by everyone....*falling**falling*..

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:35 PM
Well you guys want this to change become Andy fans and root for him to be number 1. You will see alot more tennis at that point on ESPN. As long as the number 1 is either a robot or non-american you can expect ESPN or any other American broadcaster not to care about the smaller events. It's really bad right now because the number 1 is super dominant, he's a robot, and he's not American. Amount of tennis coverage by everyone....*falling**falling*..

Problem is that most Americans ONLY know Roddick. And if he's not playing, no one watches. So if the only player that is marketed in America is Roddick, tennis is in woeful shape in this fine country.

If ESPN would show commercials with Federer, like they did with Roddick and all the others, commercials with Safin, Moya, Gaudio, Henman, Coria and all the other talented guys, they'd make a lot more money off tennis. Those guys aren't all morons that don't deserve a TV spot :rolleyes: , some of those guys are massively entertaining (Can we say Marat?) or very good-looking (Moya, Safin, that's personal taste...).

It's kinda of a chicken-and-egg thing: If ESPN shows more tennis, more people become familiar with players. But ESPN won't make tennis more accessible until more people start watching.

The solution should be to advertise tennis in a spectrum outside of Roddick and Agassi, who are NOT the center of the sport's universe.

Fee
11-15-2004, 07:37 PM
Nice rant tennisphan, but you should do a little bit more research or at least read the threads here that have discussed this already. (and the interview with Steve Bellamy at tennis-x.com). Everything you complained about is a matter of money. It takes money to start a new cable channel, it takes money to buy a slot on each cable system's channel lineup, it takes money to buy the rights to broadcast tournaments, to fly crews to each tournament, etc, etc, etc. I fully support the Tennis Channel and what they are trying to do and I call my cable company every once in a while to request it. Hopefully, Comcast will add it before the 2005 season begins. I would love for it to be part of the basic lineup, but I don't think there is space.

ESPN has been screwing up tennis coverage for ages and they have repeatedly said that they are not considering the serious tennis fan in their decisions, they are going after the 'casual' tennis fan and trying to convert them. Feel free to send them a feedback form every day of this week about their coverage of the Masters Cup. None of the powers that be believe there is significant interest in tennis, it just doesn't get the ratings they want unless Andre or a Williams sister is playing.

RogiFan88
11-15-2004, 07:38 PM
I'd like Eurosport

Fumus
11-15-2004, 07:41 PM
Actually Agassi is the most marketed tennis player in tennis history (mens history) and besides Mac has been one of the few to transend the sport. Andy Roddick is very similar with the endorsements and commerical choices he has made. Tennis will become more popular in the states when sport becomes more interesting...period. This means rivalries and interesting personalities. When people start tuning in to see characters for entertainment, they will start to take notice of the play. I have to admit I started watching only womens tennis because I found them very attractive. As I watched more and more I respected the mens game and found it much more interesting and fun to watch.

Lee
11-15-2004, 07:42 PM
Cox in my region will drop ESPNews, ESPN Classic and Fox Sports World from the Variety tier and put them in a new tier called Sports & Info. I just hope Cox may add TTC into the tier later to attract more suscribtion, then I will subsribe for it.

*M*
11-15-2004, 07:43 PM
It's announced in ESPN web site today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvlistings/scheduleSport?date=20041116&sport=TNThat's for Tuesday, Nov. 16.

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:45 PM
Actually Agassi is the most marketed tennis player in tennis history (mens history) and besides Mac has been one of the few to transend the sport. Andy Roddick is very similar with the endorsements and commerical choices he has made. Tennis will become more popular in the states when sport becomes more interesting...period. This means rivalries and interesting personalities. When people start tuning in to see characters for entertainment, they will start to take notice of the play. I have to admit I started watching only womens tennis because I found them very attractive. As I watched more and more I respected the mens game and found it much more interesting and fun to watch.

I started watching women's tennis because I thought Martina Hingis was so cool. And then I really got into men's, because Goran Ivanisevic was so funny. ;)

I'm trying to figure out if we agree. I think that the sport is interesting already, it just needs to be shown to the Americans in that light.

Lee
11-15-2004, 07:45 PM
That's for Tuesday, Nov. 16.

Emmm! Look carefully, the time slot for ESPN2 at midnight Tuesday. And that's eastern time.

Whistleway
11-15-2004, 07:49 PM
I was hoping to see federer on Espn2... Arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

Now it's Hewitt/Moya.

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 07:49 PM
It has nothing to do with Americans, it has to do with who's popular. At least twice this week, live coverage of the WTA Champs was given to Sharapova instead of Serena or Lindsay. It just so happens that the top American male players are also popular with the tv audience. ESPN is showing Roger more and more and they at least seem to be trying. But there is still the point that there are 29047029470980 other sports that are more popular than tennis in this country. Obviously ESPN feels that fly fishing or drag racing is more lucrative. We've had this discussion a million times, and we all agree that it sucks that a wonderful sport like tennis is not more popular here right now, but it's the way it is.

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:52 PM
It has nothing to do with Americans, it has to do with who's popular. At least twice this week, live coverage of the WTA Champs was given to Sharapova instead of Serena or Lindsay. It just so happens that the top American male players are also popular with the tv audience. ESPN is showing Roger more and more and they at least seem to be trying. But there is still the point that there are 29047029470980 other sports that are more popular than tennis in this country. Obviously ESPN feels that fly fishing or drag racing is more lucrative. We've had this discussion a million times, and we all agree that it sucks that a wonderful sport like tennis is not more popular here right now, but it's the way it is.

:sad: This thread is making me feel yucky.

Space Cowgirl
11-15-2004, 07:56 PM
I'd like Eurosport


Eurosport is good but this year it showed much more womens' tennis than mens' :(

Fumus
11-15-2004, 07:59 PM
Well I guess we just have to hope for the Tennis channel to pick up more and more events whiles at the sametime reaching more and more households.

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 08:01 PM
:sad: This thread is making me feel yucky.

awwwwww:hug: well business in general is kinda yucky. It's sort of depressing that everything revolves around money. It seems unfair - it should be about the sport and the fact that tennis is so unique and great and international and whatnot but from ESPN's perspective it's just how to make money. Showing the pretty girl Maria even instead of Serena must, in their minds, make them money. Showing Andy and Andre, whom they have proof draw more viewers than other players, makes them money. They don't care that we want to see all the other players too, but to be fair to them, it's not really their business to care. As Fee said, ESPN is geared to the general sports fan, and the general sports fan in this country doesn't love tennis like we do. Damn them!!!! :p

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 08:02 PM
Well I guess we just have to hope for the Tennis channel to pick up more and more events whiles at the sametime reaching more and more households.

:rolleyes: so calmly says he who already HAS TTC :o ;):p


and anyway, today's the only day this week that doesn't have live coverage of the afternoon match. It's live at 1pm every day the rest of the week. and what's funny is that it's actually the NIGHT matches, when people bitch about when Andy gets to play, that are shown way tape-delayed at crappy hours.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:03 PM
Chair Umpire Fumus: Correction ESPN is geared to suck

Point to Martin.
Black's serve.

tangerine_dream
11-15-2004, 08:03 PM
Yet another dreadful ESPN sucks thread. Tennis is not one of the most popular sports in the US, so be glad that they show tennis at all, otherwise we'd have zip coverage.

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 08:03 PM
Players don't get to be their own umps in the pros, dear Fumigator ;)

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:05 PM
:rolleyes: so calmly says he who already HAS TTC

I know..I know...well when you are the King. :)

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:06 PM
Players don't get to be their own umps in the pros, dear Fumigator ;)

lol...Fumus was the umpire.

Ryan Martin was the player :)

TheBoiledEgg
11-15-2004, 08:07 PM
Yet another dreadful ESPN sucks thread. Tennis is not one of the most popular sports in the US, so be glad that they show tennis at all, otherwise we'd have zip coverage.


tennis hardly registers in UK either
99% of Brits think tennis is only Wimbledon :lol: and we get plenty of coverage.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:07 PM
Yet another dreadful ESPN sucks thread. Tennis is not one of the most popular sports in the US, so be glad that they show tennis at all, otherwise we'd have zip coverage.


Correction: If ESPN didn't show it someone else maybe better would.

Just think about when USA covers the open... :o

liptea
11-15-2004, 08:10 PM
I will say this for ESPN: They're getting better.

And nothing will be worse than NBC covering the Ljbucic (I NEVER spell that right...) and Roddick match where it was half live and half taped and they fast forwarded and rewound... :mad:

tangerine_dream
11-15-2004, 08:12 PM
Fumus, I wouldn't mind if TTC got the rights to broadcast many tournaments, except that I'd never see any of them because the majority of Americans do not have access to TTC! :fiery: USA Network is ok but they don't have the bucks that ESPN does to show as many matches and besides, I give props to ESPN for not cutting matches short just because the match has gone on longer than its alloted timeslot (which I've seen other broadcasters do).

Socket
11-15-2004, 08:13 PM
Correction: If ESPN didn't show it someone else maybe better would.

Just think about when USA covers the open... :o
I doubt if anybody would pick up the slack if ESPN didn't show tennis. There's just not enough advertisting revenue in it. USA network has said in the past it has no interest in expanding its tenns coverage beyond the two weeks of the US Open. To me, the only real solution is for the Tennis Network to sign deals with the major cable and satellite systems, and that doesn't seem ready to happen anytime soon.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:14 PM
I will say this for ESPN: They're getting better.

And nothing will be worse than NBC covering the Ljbucic (I NEVER spell that right...) and Roddick match where it was half live and half taped and they fast forwarded and rewound... :mad:

That was screwed up..lol..they wanted to see if Andy won, and when he did they kept showing it..lol..typical Americans.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:16 PM
Fumus, I wouldn't mind if TTC got the rights to broadcast many tournaments, except that I'd never see any of them because the majority of Americans do not have access to TTC! :fiery: USA Network is ok but they don't have the bucks that ESPN does to show as many matches and besides, I give props to ESPN for not cutting matches short just because the match has gone on longer than its alloted timeslot (which I've seen other broadcasters do).

Well...I don't care..ESPN drop your coverage. The analysis and coverage by the Skysports team is superb. I will just broadcast it via webcam for everyone at MTF to see, good plan right? :)

loret
11-15-2004, 08:16 PM
[QUOTE=Fee]Nice rant tennisphan, but you should do a little bit more research or at least read the threads here that have discussed this already. (and the interview with Steve Bellamy at tennis-x.com).

Well that's a nice way to welcome a new member :rolleyes:

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:17 PM
I doubt if anybody would pick up the slack if ESPN didn't show tennis. There's just not enough advertisting revenue in it. USA network has said in the past it has no interest in expanding its tenns coverage beyond the two weeks of the US Open. To me, the only real solution is for the Tennis Network to sign deals with the major cable and satellite systems, and that doesn't seem ready to happen anytime soon.

again, I think someone would pick up the tennis there is enough money it for it to be covered by another station be it Fox Sport Net etc.

liptea
11-15-2004, 08:18 PM
[QUOTE=Fee]Nice rant tennisphan, but you should do a little bit more research or at least read the threads here that have discussed this already. (and the interview with Steve Bellamy at tennis-x.com).

Well that's a nice way to welcome a new member :rolleyes:


:wavey: :D New members will quickly learn that MTF posters are very emphatic. ;)

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 08:21 PM
lol...Fumus was the umpire.

Ryan Martin was the player :)

:rolleyes: He who has dissociative identity disorder also does not get to call his own lines :p

I like the idea about broadcasting over your webcam thuogh ;)

*M*
11-15-2004, 08:23 PM
Emmm! Look carefully, the time slot for ESPN2 at midnight Tuesday. And that's eastern time.Oops, sorry. I too would prefer to see Roger. I wonder if they would show his match if he was playing someone other than Gaudio. Hewitt and Moya are better known; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the ESPN honchos think Hewitt is American. ;)

USA Network is ok but they don't have the bucks that ESPN does to show as many matches and besides, I give props to ESPN for not cutting matches short just because the match has gone on longer than its alloted timeslot (which I've seen other broadcasters do).I heard that they cut away from the Sharapova/Myskina semifinal during the third set to go to a football program (program, not game). While I understand that there are a lot of other, more popular sports to cover, they seem to fill a lot of their programming schedule with hours and hours of guys yakking about sports. Maybe they could show more sports if they spent less time talking about it.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:26 PM
:rolleyes: He who has dissociative identity disorder also does not get to call his own lines :p

I like the idea about broadcasting over your webcam thuogh ;)

Well yea, it's not like I ever use it *sarcasm*!! :)

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 08:26 PM
I heard that they cut away from the Sharapova/Myskina semifinal during the third set to go to a football program (program, not game).

This is true, BUT!! They went 90 minutes over their allotted time to begin with. It was supposed to end at 3 pacific and they finally went off at 4:30. So yeah...

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:27 PM
Oops, sorry. I too would prefer to see Roger. I wonder if they would show his match if he was playing someone other than Gaudio. Hewitt and Moya are better known; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the ESPN honchos think Hewitt is American. ;)

I heard that they cut away from the Sharapova/Myskina semifinal during the third set to go to a football program (program, not game). While I understand that there are a lot of other, more popular sports to cover, they seem to fill a lot of their programming schedule with hours and hours of guys yakking about sports. Maybe they could show more sports if they spent less time talking about it.

Well yea isn't that the best thing about sports..watching and yacking? I mean look at you, yakking away ;)

naiwen
11-15-2004, 08:32 PM
I was hoping to see federer on Espn2... Arrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

Now it's Hewitt/Moya.

Let's hope it starts raining cats and dogs after Federer and gLaudio finish their match (if they have a chance to resume the match), and then ESPN has to air Federer tonight.
:devil:

tennisphan
11-15-2004, 08:33 PM
Well that's a nice way to welcome a new member :rolleyes:

I know, right Loret. I spent a good week reading back posts all over this board before I even posted a thing, but I guess I should stay in the sandbox until I'm ready to come and hit with the big boys.


(for a subject that has been 'talked to death', and I 'should know about' its funny how 43 people replied and 130+ looked in an hour and a half.)



...god, i HATE discussion on a messageboard :rolleyes:

Fumus
11-15-2004, 08:36 PM
awww it's ok Tennisphan we will argue the same things over an over again forever, infact some times we switch sides for fun.

tennisphan
11-15-2004, 08:49 PM
awww it's ok Tennisphan we will argue the same things over an over again forever, infact some times we switch sides for fun.

This is something i am very familiar with :rocker:

Socket
11-15-2004, 08:52 PM
again, I think someone would pick up the tennis there is enough money it for it to be covered by another station be it Fox Sport Net etc.
Fox Sport Net has only submitted bids for the SFs and final of a few small events that ESPN hasn't already contracted for; they've shown no interest in competing with the big guys.

Fee
11-15-2004, 08:53 PM
Loret and tennisphan, please. I didn't call anyone mean names or anything else. I've seen newbies get much worse treatment on this board than my mild comment that you do a little bit more research. As for the length of this thread, we LOVE to complain about ESPN here, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

Lee
11-15-2004, 08:56 PM
Loret and tennisphan, please. I didn't call anyone mean names or anything else. I've seen newbies get much worse treatment on this board than my mild comment that you do a little bit more research. As for the length of this thread, we LOVE to complain about ESPN here, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

I agree.

tennisphan
11-15-2004, 08:58 PM
its all good, really.

play on.

Fumus
11-15-2004, 09:08 PM
Fox Sport Net has only submitted bids for the SFs and final of a few small events that ESPN hasn't already contracted for; they've shown no interest in competing with the big guys.

Socket keep plugging away...;) Seriously, if ESPN dropped it's tennis coverage..which it never would. "The self-appointed Grand Slam Network" I assure you channels would rise up from the depths of hell to cover it. There is enough of a market for it. Although ESPN shows poker, fly fishing, bowling, gymnastics, jump roping, table tennis, etc etc. They don't carry as many hours of coverage for those as they do for tennis. ESPN will show things like that spuratically. Tennis however, especially durning the summer it seemed was on every week. My point is, there is enough of an interest in Tennis that if ESPN dropped it someone would definitly pick up their coverage.

Socket
11-15-2004, 09:11 PM
Socket keep plugging away...;) Seriously, if ESPN dropped it's tennis coverage..which it never would. "The self-appointed Grand Slam Network" I assure you channels would rise up from the depths of hell to cover it. There is enough of a market for it. Although ESPN shows poker, fly fishing, bowling, gymnastics, jump roping, table tennis, etc etc. They don't carry as many hours of coverage for those as they do for tennis. ESPN will show things like that spuratically. Tennis however, especially durning the summer it seemed was on every week. My point is, there is enough of an interest in Tennis that if ESPN dropped it someone would definitly pick up their coverage.
Then, why didn't anybody except the Tennis Channel pick up the European clay masters series after ESPN dropped them in favor of basketball? ESPN dropped their coverage, and ONE network, with coverage in something like 5% of US homes, submitted a bid.

Racket88
11-15-2004, 09:18 PM
Let's hope it starts raining cats and dogs after Federer and gLaudio finish their match (if they have a chance to resume the match), and then ESPN has to air Federer tonight.
:devil:


I think Hewitt-Moya would be a more entertaining match to watch than Federer-Gaudio.

RonE
11-15-2004, 10:12 PM
Funnily enough- Eurosport didn't show the Federer-Gaudio match since it was delayed by rain, I saw the match on ESPN- but admittedly, this is a different ESPN than the one you guys in the States have.

tennisguru
11-15-2004, 10:18 PM
ESPN is making mess such a great event, I badly wanted to see Rogi in action and now I will have to stay awake till midnight to watch a recorded match between Moya and Hewitt

David Kenzie
11-15-2004, 10:25 PM
One thing I don't understand is why in the States don't you have satellite TV packages like we do in europe. Satellite reaches much more people (especially in a huge country like the USA). Here in France you have Canalsatellite with the sport+ channel. In the UK you have Sky with SkySports. And in the US some people can't get to see live tennis matches even if they have the money ...

Deboogle!.
11-15-2004, 10:29 PM
We have all kinds of satellite options here in the US. But it's the same ESPN stations on there. We don't have the equivalent of SkySports or Eurosport that shows a lot of tennis. The Tennis Channel hasn't yet made a deal with any of the major satellite providers like Dish Network or DirecTV. So getting one of those wouldn't be any kind of improvement in terms of what tennis we got.

Roger-No.1
11-15-2004, 10:46 PM
I'd like Eurosport

We could expect Eurosport to steal the US market very soon.

ESPN is making bad decisions and it's only a matter of time.

That's why Tennis Channel was brought to life.

Some smart people thought Americans want to see foreign people play tennis. Who knew?

You can try and ask for ESPN International.

Socket
11-15-2004, 11:22 PM
One thing I don't understand is why in the States don't you have satellite TV packages like we do in europe. Satellite reaches much more people (especially in a huge country like the USA). Here in France you have Canalsatellite with the sport+ channel. In the UK you have Sky with SkySports. And in the US some people can't get to see live tennis matches even if they have the money ...
I don't have satellite myself, but from seeing ads, I think the only sports packages on US satellites are for basketball and football. The only satellite that has Tennis Channel is Zoom, which is a start up company.

Fee
11-15-2004, 11:30 PM
its all good, really.

play on.


Thank you. And can I just say your post is the best way I think I have ever seen on this board to clear up a minor misunderstanding and move on. In your honor, we should all make regular use of it. :D

sprinterluck
11-16-2004, 12:04 AM
Does anyone here have the Tennis Channel? The website says Tennis Channel would show live coverage at 4pm and 10pm Eastern of singles, but there was no coverage of Federer's match today?? :confused: anybody know what's going on?

naiwen
11-16-2004, 12:24 AM
I think Hewitt-Moya would be a more entertaining match to watch than Federer-Gaudio.

You're right, but it's raining again.
:rolleyes:

gurseal
11-16-2004, 12:39 AM
It's 7:35pm central, and the ESPN boo-ya guy has just presented a segment on why football players spike the ball, during a worthless show called "Monday Night Countdown." ESPN2 is showing a beginning-of-the-season Wake-GW basketball game.

Not even a hint of tape-delayed tennis, not to mention live tennis, from the end-of-year championship event for which ESPN is to provide coverage.

Life is a humbler.

Anybody know the heads of T-Mobile, Energizer, Levi's, Serius, Verizon, Bacardi, Pizza Hut, State Farm, etc.? Can you get in touch with them and get them to make heads roll until they change into tennis balls? Or do they not have any influence on the editorial content of ESPN? Oh, wait. Maybe the CEOs are big tennis fans. You can use that angle.

Roger-No.1
11-16-2004, 12:47 AM
ESPN is making mess such a great event, I badly wanted to see Rogi in action and now I will have to stay awake till midnight to watch a recorded match between Moya and Hewitt

That's so ESPN.

tennyfan
11-16-2004, 01:04 AM
In the US, we get The Tennis Channel on a new satellite dish called "Voom". Voom specializes in high definition TV, although TTC isn't in high def. Voom also carries Bravo HD which carried tennis during the Olympics and is currently showing reruns in high definition of the 2004 US Open. Voom is a new satellite company (a year old) so we took advantage of a special deal with free equipment and free installation of hi-def box and local antenna. The cost right now is basically the same as Comcast Cable. TTC coverage during Paris and Madrid was basically 100% coverage of all center court match from day 1 and then they reran the same matches at night in prime time. Unfortunately, they only got the rights to the Houston doubles since ESPN has exclusive coverage of the Houston singles.

I recently read an article that Comcast was working out a nationwide deal with TTC. In the same article, TTC Execs said they wanted to push the Latin men and the Russian Women because they thought they were "It" right now. Here's a link to the article:

http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2004-10-25/c.php

Socket
11-16-2004, 01:07 AM
I'm a Comcast subscriber, and I truly hope the deal goes through, but they've been working on a deal for a couple of years now, so I can't say I'm optimistic.

tennyfan
11-16-2004, 01:14 AM
Sprinter luck,

TTC didn't show any of the scheduled doubles tennis today. I guess none of the doubles matches were played because of rain? They definitely did NOT show the Federer match, but my schedule shows only doubles is scheduled and it would really surprise me if they showed a singles match if ESPN has the broadcast rights.

mitalidas
11-16-2004, 01:20 AM
ESPN SUX

Carito_90
11-16-2004, 01:58 AM
Our ESPN coverage of tennis is AWESOME. We get all the TMS + TMC of course, and GSs. Everything live.
Then foxsports is great too cos u get the coverage of all the small tourneys there.
Its very unusual to have a week without live tennis on tv here :D
I really can't complain.

Billabong
11-16-2004, 02:46 AM
;)

lunahielo
11-16-2004, 02:46 AM
This may already have been mentioned..I haven't read the whole thread..
ESPN2 is now covering the WTA..S.Williams-M.Sharapova final and they said ATP tennis would start at midnight. I guess they will have to show the Federer-Gaudio
match...since there hasn't been any other!

Also, I have the Tennis Channel and they are showing something about the beginning of Davis Cup from around 1902.

liS@
11-16-2004, 04:07 AM
It's 4-3 Hewitt and ESPN2 is now going to cover Federer-Gaudio instead... after Sharapova's trophy ceremony finishes...

buddyholly
11-16-2004, 01:22 PM
ESPNdeportes is showing almost every singles match live. Yesterday they waited hours to bring the continuation of Federer-Gaudio after the rain, showing matches from last year while they waited. So it is not right to blame ESPN. If there are not enough people interested inside the US they will not put tennis on there, but their coverage for South America is just fine, thank you.
BRAVO ESPN

SwissMister1
11-16-2004, 02:36 PM
For those who have DirecTV - I know that the package in espanol shows the tournaments in Latin/South America. For example, one of the stations (I believe it is called TYC) right now is showing reruns of the tournament in Buenos Aires from earlier this year. That doesn't really help for this week, though.

Socket
11-16-2004, 02:53 PM
ESPNdeportes is showing almost every singles match live. Yesterday they waited hours to bring the continuation of Federer-Gaudio after the rain, showing matches from last year while they waited. So it is not right to blame ESPN. If there are not enough people interested inside the US they will not put tennis on there, but their coverage for South America is just fine, thank you.
BRAVO ESPN
Yeah, I think this sums up the situation nicely. ESPN-US is simply responding to the market, and the market for tennis in the US is small. It's a chicken-and-the-egg situation, where the lack of televised tennis is one factor in preventing a larger market from developing. If enough cable and satellite systems pick up the Tennis Channel, the situation may change, but that's a big "if."

buddyholly
11-16-2004, 08:15 PM
What a feast!!! ESPNdeportes had an hour and a half planned for this afternoon, but thay have just covered two hours of the delayed Hewitt-Moya match and are going to stay for the entire Safin-Coria blow-out AND be back for Henman plucking the duck tonight.
I love ESPN.

tennisphan
11-19-2004, 06:56 AM
...this has got to be the most strange thing to date about ESPN and thir spotty coverage:

I was just randomly awoken in the middle of the night, and while fliping through the channels, on ESPN2 they were showing roger and carlos were warming up (by this point they are mid-1st set). Two strange things; 1, its not on the program guide (on screen channel display), and its ONLY ON ONE TV, just the one in my living room, but NOT the one in my bedroom....

Oh well, I guess ill be in the living room for the next several hours, and then quite sleepy at wrk tomorrow...

MisterQ
11-19-2004, 05:30 PM
an old thread with therapeutic value: ;)

http://menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=8066

RonE
11-19-2004, 05:37 PM
an old thread with therapeutic value: ;)

http://menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=8066

:lol: Add "and Eurosport" to that thread title and you're bang on :yeah:

Rogiman
11-19-2004, 05:49 PM
:lol: Add "and Eurosport" to that thread title and you're bang on :yeah:

What's wrong with Eurosport...? :rolleyes:

Roger-No.1
03-21-2005, 10:18 AM
Problem is that most Americans ONLY know Roddick. And if he's not playing, no one watches. So if the only player that is marketed in America is Roddick, tennis is in woeful shape in this fine country.

If ESPN would show commercials with Federer, like they did with Roddick and all the others, commercials with Safin, Moya, Gaudio, Henman, Coria and all the other talented guys, they'd make a lot more money off tennis. Those guys aren't all morons that don't deserve a TV spot :rolleyes: , some of those guys are massively entertaining (Can we say Marat?) or very good-looking (Moya, Safin, that's personal taste...).

It's kinda of a chicken-and-egg thing: If ESPN shows more tennis, more people become familiar with players. But ESPN won't make tennis more accessible until more people start watching.

The solution should be to advertise tennis in a spectrum outside of Roddick and Agassi, who are NOT the center of the sport's universe.
:worship:

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 10:30 AM
liptea, you will get banned for making contributions like the above post quoted.