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PLAYING SATELLITE EVENTS

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 06:09 PM
I am hoping to play Satellite quallies next year. Which s-llites can I get direct acceptance into quallies, without having to provide a ranking, or anything else? E.g open draw... Please pm me anyone who knows!

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 06:11 PM
The LTA have declined me opportunities at WCs as I was injured for a period, and I was dropped from training under them.
They are a poorly organised association, who need to rethink their principles. At the same time I trained, a girl left her home, a good grammar school and joined a poor comp, to practise with the LTA. She was out for 9 months with hamstring problems, and was dropped. She has had to give up playing, and now is in a shit school, her life a mess.

joeb_uk
11-13-2004, 06:57 PM
to be honest its a choice some people have to make, what happened to her parents. she is 9! didnt they advise her?
i mean, you have to take the risk of training for 10 years and end up not being good enough (in that time, you havent had an education)

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 07:08 PM
Yeah.. Entering Satellites anybody?

Fee
11-13-2004, 07:30 PM
You have two choices, get entry from the LTA or get entry from the local tournament sponsors. Find out who's in charge and start sucking up. Wouldn't hurt to start playing and beating every one you possibly can either.

There are four Futures tournaments near my home in June. The qualie draws for those events are full of local players aged 16 and up. They spend all year getting to know the tournament directors and making a case for getting a spot in the qualies. It seems to work, and the guys who are most deserving usually get in (and then they get spanked by the guys who have more experience).

(I left a message for you in the Aachen Challenger thread, but I don't think you ever saw it...)

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 07:38 PM
Fee = Legendo

Thank you so much!

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 07:53 PM
http://www.lta.org.uk/ReachTheTop/Competing/InformationSheet.htm --a very useful information sheet, giving me almost the same information as Fee the tennis encylopedia.
I have emailed a friend at the LTA, hopefully she will let me know. It looks like I can sign-in to qualifying, and if there is a space, I can play... Fingers crossed!

Horatio Caine
11-13-2004, 10:20 PM
You'll need an LTA rating of at least 4.2 to play the qualies as far as i know.

Horatio Caine
11-13-2004, 10:29 PM
Also, no offence, but you're a bit too young to be playing satellite tournaments...I doubt you'd be given a wildcard, if that is what you're relying on.

ae wowww
11-13-2004, 10:30 PM
I will let everyone know the truth(!), should have a reply from Sarah Wooding (Satellites @ LTA) on Monday....

Thanks all for contributions

ae wowww
11-15-2004, 07:26 PM
I have entered the entire quallies of what we call the Super Series over here. It's a string of Indoor tournaments, for 2005 -- hopefully this can help me get my rating up, and get even more confidence ready for the satellite!
Thanks to everyone who pmed me wishing me luck..

CooCooCachoo
11-15-2004, 07:29 PM
Good luck to you ;)

liptea
11-15-2004, 07:30 PM
Hey!

GOOD LUCK! :wavey: :wavey:

Horatio Caine
11-15-2004, 07:38 PM
I have entered the entire quallies of what we call the Super Series over here. It's a string of Indoor tournaments, for 2005 -- hopefully this can help me get my rating up, and get even more confidence ready for the satellite!

What do you mean? Is this the pre-qualifying?

CooCooCachoo
11-15-2004, 07:42 PM
BTW How old are you?

joeb_uk
11-15-2004, 07:59 PM
15

its nice to see you working hard andy! i remember that niketennis clown, he was hilarious

ae wowww
11-16-2004, 12:26 PM
Thanks for everyones good luck :D I am 15 (as of last Saturday).

loeliepoelie
11-16-2004, 02:18 PM
Let us know when your first match is!!! Best of luck!!! :hug:

SwissMister1
11-16-2004, 02:26 PM
Actually, if you had enough disposable cash lying around, you could have flown to Bolivia, and gotten into the qualies for this week's challenger:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2004/75/qs.pdf

Looks like plenty of spots were available ;)

CooCooCachoo
11-16-2004, 02:31 PM
Yeah :lol: I saw that too :)

15 is still a good age though you need to work hard :yeah:

SwissMister1
11-16-2004, 02:37 PM
I'm a little surprised, they couldn't find enough people around to fill out a qualy draw?

Horatio Caine
11-16-2004, 02:41 PM
If I'd known I'd have been out there in a shot! :eek: :eek: But, being nearly 20, a tennis career is no longer on the cards....!! :)

ae wowww
11-16-2004, 03:45 PM
Why didn't you tell me...! Lol... Here is an email I received from the LTA:

"The entry and sign-in criteria for Satellite and Futures events is currently as shown in your e-mail. However, the system is changing for 2005 and all players wishing to play ITF events must register for an IPIN. Details for registration are shown on the ITF website (www.itftennis.com)

It is true that only world ranked players are permitted to enter by the entry deadline and all players are able to sign-in for qualifying, by the sign-in deadline. However, once sign-in has closed, the Supervisor uses the ITF acceptance criteria to determine the cut-off, as follows :-

The first priority is given to ATP ranked players who have entered and signed-in.
Second priority is given to ATP ranked players who have not entered, but signed-in.
Third priority (and this is usually the cut-off at GB events) is Nationally Ranked players, who have signed in. These are players who appear on the list of their National Association's top 500 players as at the previous year-end. For information, the cut-off rating for the top 500 GB players in the 2003 year-end rankings was 3.2.
Fourth priority are all other players who have signed-in.

The above is just a general overview of the entry and acceptance procedure - more information may be found on the ITF Men's Tennis weblet."

[QUOTE]Let us know when your first match is!!! Best of luck!!! [/QUOTE/]

Fee
11-16-2004, 05:55 PM
We should all send drew a few dollars and force him to wear a 'menstennisforums' patch on his sleeve when he plays. He'll be the first player sponsored by a messageboard! :lol:

But, you can't play in an adidas skirt, despite the fact that you like them so much. Shorts would be more appropriate.

Horatio Caine
11-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Why didn't you tell me...! Lol... Here is an email I received from the LTA:

"The entry and sign-in criteria for Satellite and Futures events is currently as shown in your e-mail. However, the system is changing for 2005 and all players wishing to play ITF events must register for an IPIN. Details for registration are shown on the ITF website (www.itftennis.com)

It is true that only world ranked players are permitted to enter by the entry deadline and all players are able to sign-in for qualifying, by the sign-in deadline. However, once sign-in has closed, the Supervisor uses the ITF acceptance criteria to determine the cut-off, as follows :-

The first priority is given to ATP ranked players who have entered and signed-in.
Second priority is given to ATP ranked players who have not entered, but signed-in.
Third priority (and this is usually the cut-off at GB events) is Nationally Ranked players, who have signed in. These are players who appear on the list of their National Association's top 500 players as at the previous year-end. For information, the cut-off rating for the top 500 GB players in the 2003 year-end rankings was 3.2.
Fourth priority are all other players who have signed-in.

The above is just a general overview of the entry and acceptance procedure - more information may be found on the ITF Men's Tennis weblet."

[QUOTE]Let us know when your first match is!!! Best of luck!!! [/QUOTE/]


Are you the 4th priority guy or do you have an LTA rating higher than 3.2?

ae wowww
11-16-2004, 08:45 PM
4th priority ;)

CooCooCachoo
11-17-2004, 06:56 PM
Will be tough to get in, I suppose :( Good luck though :yeah:

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 11:32 AM
We should all send drew a few dollars and force him to wear a 'menstennisforums' patch on his sleeve when he plays. He'll be the first player sponsored by a messageboard! :lol:

But, you can't play in an adidas skirt, despite the fact that you like them so much. Shorts would be more appropriate.

LOL!!! I don't know how I missed this post, I was skimming through just now and saw it --Fee you make me laugh!

Any one got any designs for the patch ;)? There's the traditional design of MensTennisForums.com but if anyone designs a goodie, I am happy to get one made and wear it - I can take a picture and post it ;)!

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 12:05 PM
If no-one posts design ideas here, I will start another thread later for that :P

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 02:58 PM
Found this on the ATP's site (basically confirms aforementioned):

Satellite Circuits are four weeks in length, consisting of three separate tournaments and a Masters. The prize money listed is the total available on the circuit.

WHERE TO GET STARTED

The best possible way to start a professional career is to first gain computer ranking points at the Satellite or Futures level. In 2003, there were 29 Satellite Circuits played. Although direct acceptance into the main draw without a computer ranking point is uncommon, chances of being accepted into a Satellite's qualifying draw are good and, where there are "open" qualifying draws, guaranteed.

Players are not allowed to play an International Series, International Series Gold, Tennis Masters Series or Grand Slam event without a computer ranking point, except with a Wild Card from the tournament. At the Challenger level, direct acceptance into the main draw without a computer ranking point is very unusual. At a few of the geographically remote events, a handful of qualifying spots at Challenger tournaments went to players without points.

jole
11-21-2004, 06:15 PM
It isn't massively hard to get into many of the qualifying draws of Futures events, even with zero points. All it takes it paying the entry free of the tournament. Some of these qualifying draws are up to 128 as well. I know of people who play these qualifying tournaments left and right and almost never win anything, but they are in the qualifying every week.

Horatio Caine
11-21-2004, 06:35 PM
On average, how much does it cost to enter a qualifying draw?

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 06:42 PM
It isn't massively hard to get into many of the qualifying draws of Futures events, even with zero points. All it takes it paying the entry free of the tournament. Some of these qualifying draws are up to 128 as well. I know of people who play these qualifying tournaments left and right and almost never win anything, but they are in the qualifying every week.
If they didn't have any ATP points, they would've had a national ranking. They may get wildcards, or in America it may be easier, plus the draws should be bigger, over here I remember hearing they tend to be 32 max. I doubt they play Futures, you are probably thinking of Satellites.

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 06:47 PM
On average, how much does it cost to enter a qualifying draw?
I think between £5-10

Horatio Caine
11-21-2004, 06:52 PM
Good luck to you mate - you have to let me know how it goes!!! :)

By the way, what sort of standard are you at - county player or just a really good club player?

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 06:59 PM
Thanks man.. County standard pretty much.. I will be sure to let everyone know how it goes-- everyones been so supportive, I will start a thread in player forums about it maybe :D

jole
11-21-2004, 07:10 PM
Well, specifically I just mean American Future events, as opposed to Satellite. I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure the people that I know getting entry into the qualifying of futures left and right have about little to no credentials. They simply pay the entry fee (like around $50 US dollars), and they are set as long as tons of people with an ATP point or massive junior rankings aren't trying to get into the qualifying as well.

Horatio Caine
11-21-2004, 07:56 PM
Andy - which event(s) are you entering? The Satellite #1? Which leg of it?

ae wowww
11-21-2004, 08:27 PM
Totally unsure yet, I have emailed my friend who is director of satellites, she will recommend best for me to go, but I will update to let you all know... probably in player forums not on here..