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2005 Tournaments

jazz_girl
11-10-2004, 07:18 PM
2005 Calendar:
01/12 Kooyong (exhibition)
01/17 Australian Open (Grand Slam)
02/07 Marseille (IS) (confirmed)
02/14 Rotterdam (ISG) (confirmed)
02/21 Dubai (ISG) (?)
03/07 Indian Wells (TMS)
03/21 NASDAQ-100 Open (TMS)
04/11 Monte Carlo (TMS)
04/18 Barcelona (ISG) (confirmed)
05/02 Rome (TMS)
05/09 Hamburg (TMS)
05/23 Roland Garros (Grand Slam)
06/06 Halle (IS)
06/15 Stoke Park Exhibition
06/20 Wimbledon (Grand Slam)
08/08 Montreal (TMS)
08/15 Cincinnati (TMS)
08/29 US Open (Grand Slam)
10/10 Vienna (ISG) (?)
10/17 Madrid (TMS)
10/24 Basel (IS) (?)
10/31 Paris (TMS)

*Ljubica*
11-10-2004, 08:13 PM
:eek: :eek: I was waiting for this to be a problem - I've been wondering for a while how he planned to play Bs As AND Rotterdam in consecutive weeks - and I'm going to say David - you had better play Rotterdam because I know loads of people who have already bought their tickets and I tentatively booked my leave from work today!!! :) I've also heard a rumour (not confirmed yet which is why I haven't said anything before), that he has been offered to play Milan the same week as Bs As. This is a really hard one - as far as the hard-court surface and the financial side of things - he is much better off career-wise playing in Europe, - huge sponsorship, endorsements, Eurosport TV, advertising etc, plus more prize money and higher ranking points (and more chance to progress further than he would playing against all the clay court specialists in Bs As).........but I do see the dilemma of needing to play at home. Whichever way he chooses (although I guess ultimately Eduardo and his management company make the decision and not him)- someone will be unhappy....and it better not be me :devil:

jazz_girl
11-10-2004, 09:38 PM
Well, he has tons of tournaments to play in Europe and there's just one in Argentina. I can't believe he's even considering playing somewhere else!!! :mad:
Even players like Moya, Coria and Guga are coming!!!

sigmagirl91
11-10-2004, 11:44 PM
Jazz, considering the media circus he's encountered there recently, the Bs As may be more of a distraction for him than it's worth. Maybe playing in Europe is his best bet, even though you guys down there will be disappointed.

novanora
11-11-2004, 04:33 AM
Apparently David is doubting about the ATP Bs As, he doesn't know if he'll play here or in Europe.
David, you better be here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

:eek: :eek: :eek: i can't believe this will be his choice if he really finally decided not to play Bs AS!! :eek:

Won't he bear much critics from Argentina media if he really does so? :eek:

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 06:31 AM
Well, he has tons of tournaments to play in Europe and there's just one in Argentina. I can't believe he's even considering playing somewhere else!!! :mad:
Even players like Moya, Coria and Guga are coming!!!

Moya, Coria and Guga are all clay court players who gain most (if not all) of their points from going far in clay court events. David is not - he admits it.........he prefers hard court surfaces such as US Open, Basel etc. Bs As is just before the major American hard court Masters' tournaments of Miami and Indian Wells, where he needs to gain big points for a good start to the season, and in many ways it doesn't make much sense to play on hard courts in Australia and then switch to clay for one week with these important US tournaments coming up. At the end of the day, David has to focus on what is best for him and his future career - not on what he may sentimentally prefer to do. This is why, after Wimbledon, he ignores the European clay court tournaments that all the other South Americans play (like Kitzbuehal and Stuttgart), to concentrate on the hard courts in America prior to the US Open. I would obviously prefer him to stay in Europe, but it would be to his detriment and I accept that and respect his choices. By playing in Bs As (where he is unlikely to beat clay-court specialsts like Coria and Moya) he could adversely affect his chances to rise in the rankings by playing tourneys with more points like Rotterdam, where the surface is more suitable to his game. Also, unfortunately, in the great world of tennis, Bs As is not considered to be a major tournament, which is why the likes of Federer, Hewitt, Ferrero, Roddick, Agassi etc do not play, and at the end of the day - David is trying to compete with those elite players on their level and must act accordingly.That is just my opinion anyway. Hope I have not offended by my comments.

Action Jackson
11-11-2004, 06:36 AM
I understand your point Rosie, but it's not often that he gets to play in Buenos Aires. I am not sure if Rios never played the Chilean Open when he was fit, he would have been hanged.

David has to be prepared to be grilled very badly by the media if he turns his back on this event.

Roddick wouldn't have the guts to come to South America and if the GWH calendar is in place, then B.A would be a bigger tournament, and it's not as if it's going to be a weak tournament.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 06:55 AM
I understand your point Rosie, but it's not often that he gets to play in Buenos Aires. I am not sure if Rios never played the Chilean Open when he was fit, he would have been hanged.

David has to be prepared to be grilled very badly by the media if he turns his back on this event.

Roddick wouldn't have the guts to come to South America and if the GWH calendar is in place, then B.A would be a bigger tournament, and it's not as if it's going to be a weak tournament.

I understand yours too GWH - but I don't agree - if people grill David badly over this, then so be it - if they looked at the wider picture and put his interests first, then maybe they wouldn't. I remember a few years ago, there used to be a clay court tourney here in England (you'll remember it - in Bournemouth). To the best of my knowledge and memory, Henman and Rusedski never played there because they don't like clay and it didn't fit in with their career plans or schedules. They were never harangued about it though - people just accepted they were doing what was best for them and accepted their choices.

Action Jackson
11-11-2004, 07:00 AM
I understand yours too GWH - but I don't agree - if people grill David badly over this, then so be it - if they looked at the wider picture and put his interests first, then maybe they wouldn't.

That won't happen as you are well aware of how proud they are in Argentina, and I think if a player of David's calibre doesn't play, then they will be insulted. I mean obviously it's his choice and has to take the consequences for that, but I think he should play the tournament, but if not it's understandable.

I remember a few years ago, there used to be a clay court tourney here in England (you'll remember it - in Bournemouth). To the best of my knowledge and memory, Henman and Rusedski never played there because they don't like clay and it didn't fit in with their career plans or schedules. They were never harangued about it though - people just accepted they were doing what was best for them and accepted their choices.

How could I forget the Bournemouth tournament the one Captain Charisma Felix Mantilla dominated and Costa won as well, as for Henman and Rusedski not being there, well they have more opportunities to play in their country, especially at that toffee club not far from you, which has a tournament called Wimbledon.

bovenbuuf
11-11-2004, 07:40 AM
well I can see both sides, just 1 tounement in Argentina, and well David is Argentinian. SO then why not play in your home country.

But well we all know he had a tough year, and its also a fact that he loves to play on Hardcourt and not clay, and like Rosie is saying, there are a lot of clayspecialist, so it will be hard to win it.

So yes, maybe it would be a good decision for him not to play BS AS, so that he can play another tournement, where he just can win more points,and what isn't an clay tournement so that he doesn't need to switch surfaces and reach the goal he wants get being number 1 of the world.

1NightStandsRule
11-11-2004, 07:42 AM
He has to win title to become number 1 in the world, and as for missing B.A, it's a tough decision. He is talented enough to handle the change in surfaces very quickly, though I remember Gonzo winning Vina Del Mar, then flying to Rotterdam and losing in the 1st round.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 10:46 AM
He has to win title to become number 1 in the world, and as for missing B.A, it's a tough decision. He is talented enough to handle the change in surfaces very quickly, though I remember Gonzo winning Vina Del Mar, then flying to Rotterdam and losing in the 1st round.

There is no way he can reach the latter stages of Bs As, and then cope with a long journey and jet lag to give a good account of himself in Rotterdam. I know I'm probably in the minority here and making myself very unpopular, but I don't see what the big deal is missing Bs As if it is the right decision for him and his chosen career. As 1NightStandRule says - he has to win titles to become Number 1 and he has more chance of winning a hardcourt one than a clay court one, and he isn't going to learn how to combat the dreaded Roddick serve (which is lethal on hardcourts) by playing on clay.

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 10:55 AM
And I have a feeling that David, as diverse as his game is, will not allow himself to be considered "just another South American clay courter", like many of his compatriots. He, like his fellow top tenners, is looking to expand his game and increase his exposure, so why not? Why not compete with the best for the best?

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 11:08 AM
And I have a feeling that David, as diverse as his game is, will not allow himself to be considered "just another South American clay courter", like many of his compatriots. He, like his fellow top tenners, is looking to expand his game and increase his exposure, so why not? Why not compete with the best for the best?

I totally agree Sigma. To be considered "the best" you have to compete with the best and prove you are worthy to complete with them and and beat them too. David's results in Madrid and Basel (and previously at Wimbledon and US Open) have proved he is not another clay court specialist but a more well-rounded player and I think this is an incredilby sensible and brave decision by him and his advisers. To risk success in Miami and Indian Wells by messing up his hardcourt prepartion with a week on clay is sheer madness in my opinion. With the possible exception of Moya, none of the other players playing the South American circuit are likely to get as far on hardcourts as David, and he must consider that. Even J-C Ferrero and Tommy Robredo have opted for European indoor hard tournaments at that time of year instead of clay because they feel it will be better preparation for the Masters - don't see why David should be treated any differently for his purely business decision. The clay court season is between April and June in the run-up to Roland Garros - and there is a strong feeling here in Europe that people only play on it at other times because they don't think they'll get sufficient points on any other surface. David obviously has the strength of mind and belief in his ability to do what he believes in. Good Luck to him!

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 11:15 AM
Exactly, Rosie. As much as it would mean to the general public in Argentina to see him compete in Bs As, would it serve the "greater good" for him? I don't think so.

Maybe this decision is a result of the intense media scrutiny he's been subject to in Argentina? It wouldn't be a surprise to me if that were part of the reason to skip Bs As., as that would certainly prove to be a greater distraction than the tournament itself.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 11:20 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: i can't believe this will be his choice if he really finally decided not to play Bs AS!! :eek:

Won't he bear much critics from Argentina media if he really does so? :eek:
The press will kill him! I can assure you that.
This tourament is very hard to make, and everyone is counting on the local players, especially on Coria and David...

bovenbuuf
11-11-2004, 11:23 AM
I agree with you sig and Rosie. It wouldn't do him a great good for him if he plays there.

But Sig not sure about taht the decision is result of the media scrutiny. Just an overlook at his results, where did he score points, where did he felt happy to play and most relaxed. And well he did had a lot injuries this year, so maybe he and his team try to make now a more balenced scedule....

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 11:24 AM
Exactly, Rosie. As much as it would mean to the general public in Argentina to see him compete in Bs As, would it serve the "greater good" for him? I don't think so.

Maybe this decision is a result of the intense media scrutiny he's been subject to in Argentina? It wouldn't be a surprise to me if that were part of the reason to skip Bs As., as that would certainly prove to be a greater distraction than the tournament itself.

Quite possibly. I always thought the British tabloid media was bad (and it is!), but from what I have read/heard of the Argentine one it is far worse. Coria and Gaudio have both suffered terribly over the years because the Press attacked them for "failing their country" etc - whether it was Coria not playing DC or Gaston playing and losing badly. They should wake up and get a grip - these people are individuals with a very short time to play tennis and make their money, - and they shouldn't be forced into doing something that could adversely effect their physical/mental/emotional well-being just for some bizarre sense of patriotism. I don't remember Agassi and Sampras being attacked for refusing DC over the years because it didn't aid their health or fit in with their schedules, do you? As bovenbuuf says, his Team have to look at what is best for him - the most balanced schedule and the places where he is likely to get most success - can't see the dreaded Press being kind to him if he loses in the 1st round of Miami and IW because his preparation was wrong - can you?

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 11:27 AM
The press will kill him! I can assure you that.
This tourament is very hard to make, and everyone is counting on the local players, especially on Coria and David...

The press wouldn't do any more to him than they've already done. I'm sure that David has enough backbone and sense of humor to deal with them by now.

bovenbuuf
11-11-2004, 11:28 AM
well here in Holland they don't get attacked either, when Sjeng announced that he prefered not to play doubles anymore for the DC, they all understood, they gave him telly time to explain his decision and later they all agreed on that it was sorry for Holland but a good decision for Sjeng as an individual player.

bovenbuuf
11-11-2004, 11:28 AM
The press wouldn't do anymore to him than they've already done. I'm sure that David has enough backbone and sense of humor to deal with them by now.
he did had some moments already to practise this year...

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 11:29 AM
Quite possibly. I always thought the British tabloid media was bad (and it is!), but from what I have read/heard of the Argentine one it is far worse. Coria and Gaudio have both suffered terribly over the years because the Press attacked them for "failing their country" etc - whether it was Coria not playing DC or Gaston playing and losing badly. They should wake up and get a grip - these people are individuals with a very short time to play tennis and make their money, - and they shouldn't be forced into doing something that could adversely effect their physical/mental/emotional well-being just for some bizarre sense of patriotism. I don't remember Agassi and Sampras being attacked for refusing DC over the years because it didn't aid their health or fit in with their schedules, do you?

Not that I could ever recall.

You're right. At the end of the day, it's the players' commitment to the game that matters more than "points" with the media and the fans. I would respect him more if he played where he'd be more effective and would get to where he needs to go in his career, than to cater to the "special interests".

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 11:30 AM
David hasn't said no yet, he just said that he's doubting cause there have been offers from Europe and he's not sure about what to do.

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 11:31 AM
Again, at the end of the day-one way or the other-it's his decision. Someone's always gonna get short-changed.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 11:36 AM
I hope he doesn't get "cornered" into agreeing to do something that isn't right for him - although I doubt Eduardo would let that happen. And I'm sure the Rotterdam tournament would be less than happy if he withdrew now, seeing as they are already naming him as one of their "star" players on their web-site, and ticket sales have been ongoing for a month or so now. By pleasing Bs As he could well end up getting a bad name and a bad reputation in the rest of the world - people would call him a "coward" for pulling out of Rotterdam after signing up for it, because he was scared to face the really big players like Federer :sad:

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 11:48 AM
I can´t believe it!!! Even when he´s a player of a hard courts, this is the only event that we have, and is a good way to preparer the DC, cause in the first round we´re local and we´ll play in clay courts.......
And i know everything what you´re saying, but is just to much for me, sorry, i can´t supporting him on this.....
And I know that the press, and players will say everything about it!!!!!
Sorry, maybe i´m just to sad......

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 11:49 AM
I can´t believe it!!! Even when he´s a player of a hard courts, this is the only event that we have, and is a good way to preparer the DC, cause in the first round we´re local and we´ll play in clay courts.......
And i know everything what you´re saying, but is just to much for me, sorry, i can´t supporting him on this.....
And I know that the press, and players will say everything about it!!!!!
Sorry, maybe i´m just to sad......
I was thinking about the DC as well!!! It's just a week after it...I guess he's made things easier to Mancini now.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 11:52 AM
I understand your differents points of view, but I can't agree with you.
Argentina only has one tournament a year, and it's very hard to make it possible. They don't get any profits from it, just some debts, so it's very important to have our players there. It's more than a simple tournament here, that's why Cañas chose to play it, even though, as David, he's better in hard courts. But whatever, we'll see what he decides.

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 11:52 AM
Are you telling me that he is thinking in not play the DC?????
Dam it!!!! That´s to hard to understand......

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 11:59 AM
No, that's not what I said. But Manicini has to choose a team, and it's very hard to do considering the good players we have. So I think he'd choose:Cañas, Gaudio, Cañas, all we match practise in clay courts and maybe Calleri or Chela, depending how they do in the Bs As tournament...David won't be prepared for a clay court match after playing indoors in Europe, but that's just my guess. Nothing's been said yet.

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 12:06 PM
I can´t believe it!!! Even when he´s a player of a hard courts, this is the only event that we have, and is a good way to preparer the DC, cause in the first round we´re local and we´ll play in clay courts.......
And i know everything what you´re saying, but is just to much for me, sorry, i can´t supporting him on this.....
And I know that the press, and players will say everything about it!!!!!
Sorry, maybe i´m just to sad......

Which players? I've never known David-or his team-to renege on a decision because of something the media or other players said. He has more integrity than that, and I'm sure he's not going to make this decision on a whim.

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 12:10 PM
Dam it!!!! This is so sad!!!!But still with David in Europe i´ll be there for the Dc, that´s for sure!!!!!

VAMOS ARGENTINA TODAVIA!!!!!

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 12:14 PM
Dam it!!!! This is so sad!!!!But still with David in Europe i´ll be there for the Dc, that´s for sure!!!!!

VAMOS ARGENTINA TODAVIA!!!!!
Me too!!! Maybe we can meet!!! I'll go to the ATP Bs As as well, I guess I'll cheer for Moyá like last year...
hey, I just remember other thing, Jiri Novak we'll be here playing the ATP Bs As as a preparation for the DC tie.

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 12:37 PM
Me too!!! Maybe we can meet!!! I'll go to the ATP Bs As as well, I guess I'll cheer for Moyá like last year...
hey, I just remember other thing, Jiri Novak we'll be here playing the ATP Bs As as a preparation for the DC tie.

OHHH I don´t like that!!!!! Jiri will prepare for the match :mad: , well the good thing that we have is Coria and Gaudio to play in that round.....So Mancini has a lot of options to choose!!!!! :D
Well, i guess I´ll bethere in the sf and fnal of the Bs As ATP, so I´ll see you there for sure!!!!
And of course on the Dc, or maybe earlier ;)
Tiff, I´m not saying that David will listen to the others players, but they always taulk about the others player´s desitions, so the always has an opinion, like in the olympics...

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 12:42 PM
Tiff, I´m not saying that David will listen to the others players, but they always taulk about the others player´s desitions, so the always has an opinion, like in the olympics...

They're entitled to their opinions, as David is entitled to his choice. David should not be made to play in any tournament out of false obligation.

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 12:51 PM
But I don´t think that Bs As is a false abligation, and David is not that kind of person, i guess if he plays here is becuse he wants and is a good chance to preparer the Dc and start play doubles with Coria.....

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 12:59 PM
But I don´t think that Bs As is a false abligation, and David is not that kind of person, i guess if he plays here is becuse he wants and is a good chance to preparer the Dc and start play doubles with Coria.....

As it is, he's considering not playing Bs As. And if he decides not to, the press will let him have it, but at the end of the day, he has to live with the decision. I'm sure you fans down there will live with it too.

crigazzio
11-11-2004, 01:11 PM
ey i saw the groups for the Master, Sorry Gaudio, but he hasn´t chance to pass the first match.....not in a hard court, he ´s with Roggie, Moyá, and Hewitt.....

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 01:15 PM
Have you viewed the threads on GM? They have no less than three devoted to Gaudio's predicted result at TMC.

novanora
11-11-2004, 02:10 PM
well here in Holland they don't get attacked either, when Sjeng announced that he prefered not to play doubles anymore for the DC, they all understood, they gave him telly time to explain his decision and later they all agreed on that it was sorry for Holland but a good decision for Sjeng as an individual player.
bov, it seems give me such an impression that Argentina is such country that consider their nation honor much heavier than many European countries. just we can see that from their much attention on Olympic medals and some big soccer matches. So their people want so much their local tennis stars can play their ONLY tournament. Maybe European fans won't pay much attention on this absent of a small tournament, they have enough already, and can wait for the next. But for most Argentine fans, they have rare chance of watching live tourneys. Thus, perhaps it does good to his schedule, but still i can't be for his decision if he finally really doesn't play BS AS.

I understand your differents points of view, but I can't agree with you.
Argentina only has one tournament a year, and it's very hard to make it possible. They don't get any profits from it, just some debts, so it's very important to have our players there. It's more than a simple tournament here, that's why Cañas chose to play it, even though, as David, he's better in hard courts. But whatever, we'll see what he decides.
Jazz, i am not Argentine, but i totally support you this time, coz i can understand you when our tournament once also got the same situation, no profit, even on debt. but for the fans, the orgnization make huge efforts to keep those big players coming. That's why i got so mad when Agassi was out in the first round in Shanghai several years ago :mad:
And David is your local star, so maybe it is even worse for the local fans can't watch their player. Big disappointment to the Argie fans.

As to DC, i am not worried if he can be chosen to play the first round or not, i think Argentina can beat Czech on clay even without david. He still can play the second, show his talent when playing Aussies on grass, right? ;) but i know, you don't won't miss any chance to see him playing live, BS AS and DC, whatever.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 03:28 PM
bov, it seems give me such an impression that Argentina is such country that consider their nation honor much heavier than many European countries. just we can see that from their much attention on Olympic medals and some big soccer matches. So their people want so much their local tennis stars can play their ONLY tournament. Maybe European fans won't pay much attention on this absent of a small tournament, they have enough already, and can wait for the next. But for most Argentine fans, they have rare chance of watching live tourneys. Thus, perhaps it does good to his schedule, but still i can't be for his decision if he finally really doesn't play BS AS.


Jazz, i am not Argentine, but i totally support you this time, coz i can understand you when our tournament once also got the same situation, no profit, even on debt. but for the fans, the orgnization make huge efforts to keep those big players coming. That's why i got so mad when Agassi was out in the first round in Shanghai several years ago :mad:
And David is your local star, so maybe it is even worse for the local fans can't watch their player. Big disappointment to the Argie fans.

As to DC, i am not worried if he can be chosen to play the first round or not, i think Argentina can beat Czech on clay even without david. He still can play the second, show his talent when playing Aussies on grass, right? ;) but i know, you don't won't miss any chance to see him playing live, BS AS and DC, whatever.
Thanks Nova :hug:
I can totally relate on what you just said :yeah:

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 03:48 PM
They're entitled to their opinions, as David is entitled to his choice. David should not be made to play in any tournament out of false obligation.

Absolutely, totally agree. If the Press let him have it - so be it - from what I've heard the Argentine Press are not so knowledgable about tennis anyway -so who cares what they think :devil: David should not be cajoled or bullied into doing something that is detrimental to his career, just to appease some mouthy journalists who will find someone else to attack within a week. And sorry to offend anyone, - but in the big scheme of things DC is not so important - and with great clay court players like Gaudio and Coria, Argentina will probably win anyway! If he wants to play DC, then David should be preparing for the proposed second round away in Australia, where fast, hard court players like him will be needed.

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 04:30 PM
David should not be cajoled or bullied into doing something that is detrimental to his career, just to appease some mouthy journalists who will find someone else to attack within a week.

And, for my money, David could care less about the cesspool of incredi-bullshit that is the press. He's already had his fair share of exposure to them, so it should bother him none if they do decide to malign him one more time for not showing up to Bs As.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 04:33 PM
This is not about the press, is about the fans.

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 04:50 PM
David has fans all over the world; ultimately, the decision must be made to support his best interests and his long-range goals. If Bs As is not part of his long-range plans, then so be it.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 04:59 PM
David has fans all over the world; ultimately, the decision must be made to support his best interests and his long-range goals. If Bs As is not part of his long-range plans, then so be it.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 06:18 PM
So far, I have "BFD" hanging from my forehead.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 06:31 PM
What's "BFD"?

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 06:34 PM
What's "BFD"?

It means "Big Fuckin' Deal"....sorry, I feel that way right now.... :o

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 06:37 PM
Sorry, I'm kind of slow today LOL! What do you mean with that?

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 06:45 PM
It's another way of saying "so what". That's my feeling for today....

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 06:46 PM
Ok

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 07:00 PM
Going back to the subject of this thread: Do you know in which tournaments david has already confirmed his presence?

sigmagirl91
11-11-2004, 07:11 PM
Nah. I hope that his team releases a full schedule soon.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 07:15 PM
Going back to the subject of this thread: Do you know in which tournaments david has already confirmed his presence?

Apart from the obvious ones - ie. the four Grand Slams and 9 Masters' Series events (Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Hamburg, Rome, Montreal, Cinci, Madrid and Paris), - the only ones I know for sure are:-

Rotterdam - February 2005
Halle - June 2005
Stoke Park Exhibition - June 2005
Basel - October 2005
Vienna - October 2005

There are very strong rumours about Barcelona (April), Dubai (March) and Milan (February) too, but as far as I'm aware these are not 100% confirmed yet - just about 90%. I guess he will have to play Japan in September again too because of the Yonex sponsorshop deal.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 07:17 PM
Thanks Rosie.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 07:23 PM
I guess he'll probably play Kooyong too - the exhibition in Australia that he won last year just prior to the Australian Open.

jazz_girl
11-11-2004, 07:25 PM
I was thinking about that too...is that in the same week as Adelaide?

Björki
11-11-2004, 07:27 PM
Thanks Rosie :)

Any idea about World Team Cup? It would be great if he would play there too.

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 07:34 PM
Thanks Rosie :)

Any idea about World Team Cup? It would be great if he would play there too.

I have no idea Bjorki - he won't make his mind up until much nearer the time. If he has a bad Hamburg and Rome then he'll probably go to WTC to get some match practice before Roland Garros, but if he has a good Rome/Hamburg then he'll probably take that week off to relax. He played there in 2003 but not in 2004 and he doesn't know about 2005 himself yet..............but watch this space! I'll be there if he is - at least for the last few days! Maybe see you there.

Björki
11-11-2004, 07:52 PM
I have no idea Bjorki - he won't make his mind up until much nearer the time. If he has a bad Hamburg and Rome then he'll probably go to WTC to get some match practice before Roland Garros, but if he has a good Rome/Hamburg then he'll probably take that week off to relax. He played there in 2003 but not in 2004 and he doesn't know about 2005 himself yet..............but watch this space! I'll be there if he is - at least for the last few days! Maybe see you there.
thanks for info. :worship: It's good to hear that it's possible he'd play the WTC.
And of course it would be great to meet u there. :)

Action Jackson
11-12-2004, 03:06 AM
He shoudn't bother about Milan, it would make more sense for him to play in Dubai.

As for DC, well if I was Mancini I wouldn't consider him for the 1st round not because he mightn't play in B.A, as it's on clay and there are other players in Argentina if fit can do the job in the 1st round at best I would only pick him for the doubles.

I feel bad for the fans that someone like David is having doubts about playing, he should play here, it's not like he has the regular opportunity of playing in his home country. At the same there are enough places for him to pick up points during the season, but he really needs to peak for the 4 big ones.

bovenbuuf
11-12-2004, 08:47 AM
yeah well I guess it will be a hard decision for David. But well he just has to make what he and his team think is best.

bovenbuuf
11-12-2004, 09:47 AM
Apart from the obvious ones - ie. the four Grand Slams and 9 Masters' Series events (Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Hamburg, Rome, Montreal, Cinci, Madrid and Paris), - the only ones I know for sure are:-
Rotterdam - February 2005
Halle - June 2005
Stoke Park Exhibition - June 2005
Basel - October 2005
Vienna - October 2005
There are very strong rumours about Barcelona (April), Dubai (March) and Milan (February) too, but as far as I'm aware these are not 100% confirmed yet - just about 90%. I guess he will have to play Japan in September again too because of the Yonex sponsorshop deal.
this will be the scedule with dates then:
1/17/05 Australian Open Hard
1/31/05 Milan-not confirmed yet Hard
2/14/05 Rotterdam Hard
2/21/05 Dubai -not confirmed yet Hard
3/7/05 Indian Wells (Master) Hard
3/21/05 Miami (master) hard
4/11/05 Monte Carlo (master) clay
4/18/05 Barcalona-not confirmed yet clay
5/2/05 Rome clay
5/9/05 Hamburg clay
5/16/05 World team championships-not confirmed yet clay
5/23/05 Roland Garros clay
6/6/05 Halle gras
6/20/05 Wimbledon gras
8/8/05 Montreal (master) hard
8/15/05 Cincinetti (master) hard
8/29/05 US Open hard
10/3/05 Tokyo-not confirmed yet hard
10/10/05 Vienna hard
10/17/05 Madrid (master) hard
10/24/05 Basel carpet
10/31/05 Paris( master) carpet

*Ljubica*
11-12-2004, 11:47 AM
He shoudn't bother about Milan, it would make more sense for him to play in Dubai.

As for DC, well if I was Mancini I wouldn't consider him for the 1st round not because he mightn't play in B.A, as it's on clay and there are other players in Argentina if fit can do the job in the 1st round at best I would only pick him for the doubles.

I feel bad for the fans that someone like David is having doubts about playing, he should play here, it's not like he has the regular opportunity of playing in his home country. At the same there are enough places for him to pick up points during the season, but he really needs to peak for the 4 big ones.

I actually agree about Milan and he isn't confirmed for that anyway - just rumour. I also agree about DC - there are other Argentines more qualified to play on clay and David's recent loss to Jiri Novak in the Basel final could put him at a psychological disadvantage. I still don't see the big deal about playing at home though - sorry - I know a lot of people don't agree but it's my opinion - Sigma's words from yesterday of "BFD" come to mind!

bovenbuuf
11-12-2004, 12:18 PM
yeah agree Rosie, with Novak in Basel and well if its at clay not sure if David would be best to play dc aswell

sigmagirl91
11-12-2004, 12:34 PM
I actually agree about Milan and he isn't confirmed for that anyway - just rumour. I also agree about DC - there are other Argentines more qualified to play on clay and David's recent loss to Jiri Novak in the Basel final could put him at a psychological disadvantage. I still don't see the big deal about playing at home though - sorry - I know a lot of people don't agree but it's my opinion - Sigma's words from yesterday of "BFD" come to mind!

Rosie, check your pm. Thanks a lot for your response to my e-mail. And I still have the BFD sign hanging on my forehead.

novanora
11-12-2004, 02:31 PM
this will be the scedule with dates then:
1/17/05 Australian Open Hard
1/31/05 Milan-not confirmed yet Hard
2/14/05 Rotterdam Hard
2/21/05 Dubai -not confirmed yet Hard
3/7/05 Indian Wells (Master) Hard
3/21/05 Miami (master) hard
4/11/05 Monte Carlo (master) clay
4/18/05 Barcalona-not confirmed yet clay
5/2/05 Rome clay
5/9/05 Hamburg clay
5/16/05 World team championships-not confirmed yet clay
5/23/05 Roland Garros clay
6/6/05 Halle gras
6/20/05 Wimbledon gras
8/8/05 Montreal (master) hard
8/15/05 Cincinetti (master) hard
8/29/05 US Open hard
10/3/05 Tokyo-not confirmed yet hard
10/10/05 Vienna hard
10/17/05 Madrid (master) hard
10/24/05 Basel carpet
10/31/05 Paris( master) carpet
thanks, bov for the schedule :worship: except Milan and rotterdam, not much different from this year's schedule. no Adelaide though?

*Ljubica*
11-12-2004, 02:33 PM
thanks, bov for the schedule :worship: except Milan and rotterdam, not much different from this year's schedule. no Adelaide though?

This is not the complete schedule at all Nova - just what we know so far - and some of these aren't confirmed (Milan, Barca etc). Guess we should know more in the next couple of weeks. I know the Adelaide tournament won't officially announce their acceptance list til 24th November.

novanora
11-12-2004, 03:25 PM
thanks, rose, a reasonable schedule for an injury-free David should be considered over.
and you can also arrange your 2005 tennis journey schedule according to it now.;)

*Ljubica*
11-12-2004, 04:01 PM
thanks, rose, a reasonable schedule for an injury-free David should be considered over.
and you can also arrange your 2005 tennis journey schedule according to it now.;)

I pretty much have already! Rotterdam, Monte Carlo, Rome, first week of Roland Garros and Basel are definate - and then whatever else takes my fancy nearer the time even if it's only for a day or two at the week-end :)

bovenbuuf
11-12-2004, 04:03 PM
yes its a nice scedule, and well I did put a lot of not confirmed yet in it.. a free july and september, although in those months are DC matches

Action Jackson
11-13-2004, 03:16 AM
I actually agree about Milan and he isn't confirmed for that anyway - just rumour. I also agree about DC - there are other Argentines more qualified to play on clay and David's recent loss to Jiri Novak in the Basel final could put him at a psychological disadvantage. I still don't see the big deal about playing at home though - sorry - I know a lot of people don't agree but it's my opinion - Sigma's words from yesterday of "BFD" come to mind!

The not playing at home thing. Here is something you mightn't be able to understand, for one you live in the UK, which is one of the establishment nations, two that there are more than enough tournaments in your own nation.

This is something I have experienced and a very good friend of mine has as well in slightly different ways. When you are from a small forgotten about country and if there is an opportunity to show it in a positive light or particpate in an event that will make the local fans who hardly ever get to see him play, it would be good if he played.

I would put it like this, if I was a top player and they had an event in my country, there wouldn't be any question of myelf playing in it barring serious injuries. Sure it's not as important as the Slams, but it would be the first one that would be on the schedule.

Whatever David's decision is it has to be respected.

bovenbuuf
11-13-2004, 10:03 AM
I pretty much have already! Rotterdam, Monte Carlo, Rome, first week of Roland Garros and Basel are definate - and then whatever else takes my fancy nearer the time even if it's only for a day or two at the week-end :)
well seems you will visit a lot of tournements again. So hopefully David has an more injuryfree year.

I am still not certain what I will do, so far I will go to Rotterdam

novanora
11-13-2004, 11:09 AM
This is something I have experienced and a very good friend of mine has as well in slightly different ways. When you are from a small forgotten about country and if there is an opportunity to show it in a positive light or particpate in an event that will make the local fans who hardly ever get to see him play, it would be good if he played.

I would put it like this, if I was a top player and they had an event in my country, there wouldn't be any question of myelf playing in it barring serious injuries. Sure it's not as important as the Slams, but it would be the first one that would be on the schedule.

Whatever David's decision is it has to be respected.

exactly, GWH, can't agree more :yeah:

jazz_girl
11-13-2004, 11:52 AM
The not playing at home thing. Here is something you mightn't be able to understand, for one you live in the UK, which is one of the establishment nations, two that there are more than enough tournaments in your own nation.

This is something I have experienced and a very good friend of mine has as well in slightly different ways. When you are from a small forgotten about country and if there is an opportunity to show it in a positive light or particpate in an event that will make the local fans who hardly ever get to see him play, it would be good if he played.

I would put it like this, if I was a top player and they had an event in my country, there wouldn't be any question of myelf playing in it barring serious injuries. Sure it's not as important as the Slams, but it would be the first one that would be on the schedule.

Whatever David's decision is it has to be respected.
Me too :yeah:

*Ljubica*
11-13-2004, 12:57 PM
Sorry GWH, Jazz and Novanora - don't agree and never will :( Argentina has so many brilliant clay court players who will play in the Bs As tournament - it's not as though David is the only one and he is taking away the fans' only chance to see top Argentine players in action. Though if I'm being really cynical I'm not sure whether the others' reasoning will be because it's their "local" tournament or just because they're likely to get more points there than they will in MIlan and Rotterdam, which is in fact the same reasoning as David but in reverse!! And actually, it's interesting to note that even Coria hasn't committed to Bs As yet even though he is the holder - maybe with a non-Argentine coach and a need to "prove himself" as a Top 10 player on all surfaces - he may feel some pressure to play in Europe too. I don't like Coria as you know - but I did respect his decisions last year to play in Marseille and on grass at Queens to help him move beyond his comfort zone and be accepted and respected worldwide. And I also wonder what would happen if David capitulated and played Bs As, but then lost in the first round? How many fans and Press in Argentina would sneer and attack him for "tanking" so he could get to Europe and play Rotterdam? And if he then lost in the 1st round there due to exhaustion and jet lag - well, he would get attacked again - so he can't win.

jazz_girl
11-13-2004, 01:21 PM
Let's just agree to disagree...

jazz_girl
11-19-2004, 02:39 PM
David has confirmed his presence in Kooyong. Apparently Agassi, Federer, Roddick, Gaudio, Srichaphan, Henman and Massu will go as well.

bovenbuuf
11-19-2004, 02:59 PM
Thanks Jazz. hope it will be a good start for next year.

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 03:11 PM
David has confirmed his presence in Kooyong. Apparently Agassi, Federer, Roddick, Gaudio, Srichaphan, Henman and Massu will go as well.

That's a great line-up.

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 01:11 PM
That's a great line-up.

It looks like I will have to be there earlier than usual.

*Ljubica*
11-21-2004, 01:32 PM
I would if I were you :)

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 01:37 PM
I would if I were you :)

It seems that I have more responsibilities than usual this time around.

*Ljubica*
11-21-2004, 01:42 PM
It seems that I have more responsibilities than usual this time around.

And I'm sure you will carry them out admirably!!!

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 01:44 PM
And I'm sure you will carry them out admirably!!!

Message boy, writing reports, parties, and seeing some tennis it won't be easy. :)

*Ljubica*
11-21-2004, 01:48 PM
Message boy, writing reports, parties, and seeing some tennis it won't be easy. :)

Just make sure you don't miss the parties............they are the most important!!!!

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 02:04 PM
Just make sure you don't miss the parties............they are the most important!!!!

Yes, of course they are the most important.

Tricky_Forehand
11-21-2004, 06:02 PM
It's way too early for me to be thinking about the Los Angeles tournament but I'm really hoping that David will committ to play. If it hadn't been for those damn injuries he probably would have played. I know that the organizers claimed that David said he would play in 2005 but I trust them as far as I can throw them :rolleyes:

Even if he shows up in the committment list I won't believe he's here till he's in the draw and I see him play his 1st round :D

*Ljubica*
11-23-2004, 08:00 PM
Btw - there is a fairly strong rumour going around that David's first tournament of the year will be in Doha starting on January 3rd rather than Adelaide! This has not been offically confirmed yet, but it comes from a reliable source ;) I understand that Roddick and Federer will also be playing there before the Kooyong Exhibition and then onto the Australian Open. As soon as I get definate confirmation I will post it here.

jazz_girl
11-23-2004, 09:17 PM
Thanks a lot Rosie!!! That's great news!
he has nothing to defend till the AO, so it's a nice way to start the season :)

*Ljubica*
11-24-2004, 04:58 AM
Thanks a lot Rosie!!! That's great news!
he has nothing to defend till the AO, so it's a nice way to start the season :)

Well - like I said - this hasn't been confirmed yet - it's just a rumour at this stage - but I think it would be good.

bovenbuuf
11-24-2004, 06:32 AM
Thanks Rose, well guess its a good thing if he starts in Doha, would give him some extra matches before the AO.

novanora
11-24-2004, 12:17 PM
Btw - there is a fairly strong rumour going around that David's first tournament of the year will be in Doha starting on January 3rd rather than Adelaide! This has not been offically confirmed yet, but it comes from a reliable source ;) I understand that Roddick and Federer will also be playing there before the Kooyong Exhibition and then onto the Australian Open. As soon as I get definate confirmation I will post it here.
thanks, rosie!~ :hug:
Doha has the most :eek: trophee in all tourneys.

Imagine what will david be like if he hold this trophee :lol:

http://www.qatartennis.org/men/gallery/galleries/2004/Presentation%20of%20the%20Trophy/trophy-7104.jpg
http://www.qatartennis.org/men/gallery/galleries/2004/Presentation%20of%20the%20Trophy/trophy-7088.jpg

jazz_girl
11-24-2004, 12:33 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!! I'd love to see it!!! :haha:

novanora
11-24-2004, 01:01 PM
Think the bright side, those gold sculpture can match his golden hair well ;) but if he got another finalist, i hope he won't use the golden dagger like the one in Ljubic's hand to stab himself!

*Ljubica*
11-24-2004, 05:05 PM
Sorry to disappoint you Nova, but despite the rumours it looks like Doha isn't going to happen now :devil: Guess a guy has the right to change his mind! So at the moment it looks like David will do the same as last year and not play any ranking tournaments prior to the Australian Open - just the Kooyong Exhibition which is the same as Roddick and Agassi also seem to be doing. Guess they all want to pace themselves as they all hope to go well into the second week in Australia.

jazz_girl
11-24-2004, 05:35 PM
I guess the Doha organizors are not too happy, right :devil:

gravity
11-24-2004, 05:38 PM
Has there been any news on whether David will play the ATP tournament in Buenos Aires yet? Also for Jazzita: is David playing in an exhibition here next month? I could swear this was being discussed on tv but my Spanish is very bad. :)

jazz_girl
11-24-2004, 05:48 PM
Are you here in Argentina Gravity?
Yes, David is scheduled to play in an Exhibition in Dicember (I'll buy the tickets with my friend this saturday!). It will be in hardcourts as a preparation for the AO.
And about the ATP tourney, there's nothing new. David is still negotiating it, and so is Coria now. Apparently Coria is going to Marseilles (sp?), even though he had said he was gonna play here :rolleyes:

*Ljubica*
11-24-2004, 05:57 PM
I guess the Doha organizors are not too happy, right :devil:

Well to my knowledge nothing was ever officially signed with Doha, so I should think they're fine about it - it was only a rumour after all. It's once the paperwork is signed (like Rotterdam next year), that organisers start getting upset when people pull out.... and rightly so I guess because they may have already spent money advertising the tournament with specific players mentioned, and then they look daft and could even be sued for false advertising. And guess Coria must like Marseilles because he played there last year too didn't he?

gravity
11-24-2004, 06:46 PM
Are you here in Argentina Gravity?
Yes, David is scheduled to play in an Exhibition in Dicember (I'll buy the tickets with my friend this saturday!). It will be in hardcourts as a preparation for the AO.
And about the ATP tourney, there's nothing new. David is still negotiating it, and so is Coria now. Apparently Coria is going to Marseilles (sp?), even though he had said he was gonna play here :rolleyes:

Yeah I am. :D I have a really cool apartment in Palermo Viejo and loving every minute of the lifestyle in this great city. Portenos are mostly very friendly and seem to be charmed by my badly broken Spanish. :lol:

I hope David plays the ATP tournament here next year - really would like to see him at home playing a competitive event; as I'm sure all his fans in Argentina do too! Anyway how can I get tickets for the exhibition? Is there a phone number or do you need to queue up in person at a ticket office?

jazz_girl
11-24-2004, 08:06 PM
You can buy them online. Here's the link: http://www.ticketek.com.ar/show.asp?code=CADT04
I'll buy them on saturday with a friend. It's a small stadium, so you can see the match well from every part of it. I've been in 4 completly different seats, and the view was great from everywhere :yeah:

gravity
11-24-2004, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the information and link :worship: I'm definitely going to this event - should be alot of fun. I just hope David doesn't pull out a few days before it starts. :)

jazz_girl
11-24-2004, 09:32 PM
I hope so too...I wouldn't be the first time he does that :rolleyes:

novanora
11-25-2004, 11:42 AM
Sorry to disappoint you Nova, but despite the rumours it looks like Doha isn't going to happen now :devil: Guess a guy has the right to change his mind! So at the moment it looks like David will do the same as last year and not play any ranking tournaments prior to the Australian Open - just the Kooyong Exhibition which is the same as Roddick and Agassi also seem to be doing. Guess they all want to pace themselves as they all hope to go well into the second week in Australia.
ehh.....ok, if the Doha man wants to change his idea, i won't object. Actually i am not disappointed with this, Kooyong can also be a good warming for Australia. I am just very curious to watch he holds those strange trophees..... :p

jazz_girl
11-25-2004, 11:43 AM
He'll have time in the future ;)

novanora
11-25-2004, 11:51 AM
WE WANT THE TROPHEE!!!~ no! no dish anymore, no plate again!! otherwise, i strongly suggest him to open a kitchenware shop!!

jazz_girl
11-25-2004, 12:02 PM
LMAO!!!! :haha:
I was thinking the same thing the other day!!!! Does he have enough walls to put up all those plates??? ;)

novanora
11-25-2004, 12:23 PM
actually, he put all his plates and dishes won in ATP in his kitchen cupboard. He use these to serve his own dinner and lunch. The Rome dish is for a roast duck. The Basel plate is for fried potatos. And the Madrid one.....eh....i want him to serve a delicious and very precious boiled hippo :lick:, but you see...... we can wait for the next year. :)

Carlita270876
11-25-2004, 07:07 PM
actually, he put all his plates and dishes won in ATP in his kitchen cupboard. He use these to serve his own dinner and lunch. The Rome dish is for a roast duck. The Basel plate is for fried potatos. And the Madrid one.....eh....i want him to serve a delicious and very precious boiled hippo :lick:, but you see...... we can wait for the next year. :)


Hahaha ! :lol: Well, as an Edberg fan, I remember a time when Stefan only got dishes too, it was becoming quite alarming to me, and yet it didn't stop him from being the great champ we all know he was, and he won so many tourneys and was such a brilliant number one ! That's all I wish for David, and I know he can achieve it : he's got all it takes...and more !
:inlove:

sigmagirl91
11-25-2004, 07:09 PM
Hahaha ! :lol: Well, as an Edberg fan, I remember a time when Stefan only got dishes too, it was becoming quite alarming to me, and yet it didn't stop him from being the great champ we all know he was, and he won so many tourneys and was such a brilliant number one ! That's all I wish for David, and I know he can achieve it : he's got all it takes...and more !
:inlove:

Ah, yes, that was indeed a distressing time. And, as we know, Edberg came back and proved that he had what it took. David can do the same.

jazz_girl
11-25-2004, 07:13 PM
Hahaha ! :lol: Well, as an Edberg fan, I remember a time when Stefan only got dishes too, it was becoming quite alarming to me, and yet it didn't stop him from being the great champ we all know he was, and he won so many tourneys and was such a brilliant number one ! That's all I wish for David, and I know he can achieve it : he's got all it takes...and more !
:inlove:
Thanks a lot for this post! I love it! :yeah:

*Ljubica*
11-25-2004, 07:27 PM
Hahaha ! :lol: Well, as an Edberg fan, I remember a time when Stefan only got dishes too, it was becoming quite alarming to me, and yet it didn't stop him from being the great champ we all know he was, and he won so many tourneys and was such a brilliant number one ! That's all I wish for David, and I know he can achieve it : he's got all it takes...and more !
:inlove:

Well said Carlita :) David will soon find a way to win those titles - and once he starts .... he just won't stop winning.

*Ljubica*
11-26-2004, 09:21 PM
OK guys - well I don't like to be the purveyor of bad news (although it's in fact very GOOD NEWS for me!), but remember what Jazz was saying the other day about Coria playing in Marseilles which is the same week as the Bs As tournament? Well if you go to their web-site http:www.open13.org/ you will see that they are advertising both Coria AND David as their star players for that week ......along with Henman and Safin, which seems to indicate that both of them have committed to that tourney instead of Bs As. Seems like their site isn't totally up-dated yet, as they still have mostly 2004 details when you enter it, - but I guess both David and Guillermo must have signed something to enable them to be advertising in this way. It's too late to do anything here now, but I plan to make some phone calls in the morning (both to the Marseilles tournament and some other people that I know) to see if I can verify this one way or the other. So - if it IS true - then of course I am very sorry for those of you in Bs As, but very happy for me as Marseilles is very VERY near to me and I can easily get there for a week-end before Rotterdam with no problem. Will keep you posted.

jazz_girl
11-26-2004, 09:50 PM
Thanks Rosie

jazz_girl
12-01-2004, 08:32 PM
Well, I just heard that all the players for the Exhibition have been confirmed, even Massu who just had a surgery said he'll be ready to play :confused: So as long as there's no last minute withdrawal or David doesn't win at least one match, I'll be able to see him play! :)

Tricky_Forehand
12-01-2004, 11:18 PM
Well, I just heard that all the players for the Exhibition have been confirmed, even Massu who just had a surgery said he'll be ready to play :confused:

That's insane!! :rolleyes: My mom had a hernia surgery years ago and it took her 6 weeks to heal back to "normal." Maybe bein an athlete helps to heal quicker :shrug:

So as long as there's no last minute withdrawal or David doesn't win at least one match, I'll be able to see him play! :)

Lucky girl!! Have fun!!

BTW...loving the avatar :drool:

jazz_girl
12-01-2004, 11:20 PM
Thanks :hug:

novanora
12-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Well, I just heard that all the players for the Exhibition have been confirmed, even Massu who just had a surgery said he'll be ready to play :confused: So as long as there's no last minute withdrawal or David doesn't win at least one match, I'll be able to see him play! :)
good, at least the good news hasn't turned to be a bad one! Enjoy it, dear! ;)

gravity
12-03-2004, 01:11 AM
Well, I just heard that all the players for the Exhibition have been confirmed, even Massu who just had a surgery said he'll be ready to play :confused: So as long as there's no last minute withdrawal or David doesn't win at least one match, I'll be able to see him play! :)

Thanks for the good news. :wavey:

*Ljubica*
12-08-2004, 05:29 PM
I know some people here won't be happy that it seems David has chosen to play in Europe over the Buenos Aires tourney next year, but I couldn't help but be proud that the Marseilles tournament have used David's image to promote and advertise their 2005 event. True it is a faily hideous picture :p but I think it's great that they are using his picture over and above those of Coria, Henman and Safin. Proves just how much respect he is gaining throughout the world especially in Europe where he has had most of his best results so far in his career. I personally can't wait til this tournament :) Sorry if that appears insensitive.

novanora
12-09-2004, 03:00 AM
thanks, Rosie! it's not hideous to me actually, very special, and different from the other pics.......let me think of "Mercury Man" or else :lol: especially that racquet

i think they will change the page pic to promote other players, like Madrid TMS, but it's so nice to see him first ;)

*Ljubica*
12-09-2004, 05:14 AM
thanks, Rosie! it's not hideous to me actually, very special, and different from the other pics.......let me think of "Mercury Man" or else :lol: especially that racquet

i think they will change the page pic to promote other players, like Madrid TMS, but it's so nice to see him first ;)

I'm glad you like it Nova :) Guess it's just a matter of personal taste - they had a huge version of that picture in Madrid on the wall between the entrance and the main court, and I hated it there as well! All the other players seemed to have quite flattering pics - but David's is far from flattering!!!! It's still nice that he is there though,- but as you say - they will probably rotate their photos to promote all the players.

Action Jackson
12-09-2004, 05:16 AM
You can always find ways for David to be flattering.

jazz_girl
12-09-2004, 09:39 AM
I agree, it's not the best drawing, but it's something...

*Ljubica*
12-16-2004, 05:55 PM
I know this has been mentioned here before, but it's now official that David will play in the lovely Stoke Park Exhibition here in England the week before Wimbledon :) After he played there last year (when he had to withdraw injured half way through his match with Nicolas Massu), he announced to the crowd that he loved it here so much and would definately be back in 2005, and it's good to see that he will always keep to his word. Andy Roddick is coming back too - and we have a new player entered for 2005 in Marat Safin :) I am REALLY excited about this - it isn't every day I have people like David and Marat at my local Club :) If anyone wants to look at the web-site-I know it's early - but it is http://www.theboodles.com

novanora
12-16-2004, 06:27 PM
I know this has been mentioned here before, but it's now official that David will play in the lovely Stoke Park Exhibition here in England the week before Wimbledon :) After he played there last year (when he had to withdraw injured half way through his match with Nicolas Massu), he announced to the crowd that he loved it here so much and would definately be back in 2005, and it's good to see that he will always keep to his word. Andy Roddick is coming back too - and we have a new player entered for 2005 in Marat Safin :) I am REALLY excited about this - it isn't every day I have people like David and Marat at my local Club :) If anyone wants to look at the web-site-I know it's early - but it is http://www.theboodles.com
Thanks rosie for the information. I have already rushed over the site provided by you, a good exhibition for sure. yeah, i still remember David withdraw this year because of his injury caused in RG, and also the duck's complaining about noisy music band there, if my memory is right.

jazz_girl
12-16-2004, 06:49 PM
That's great news Rosie!!! :yeah:

*Ljubica*
12-16-2004, 07:41 PM
Thanks rosie for the information. I have already rushed over the site provided by you, a good exhibition for sure. yeah, i still remember David withdraw this year because of his injury caused in RG, and also the duck's complaining about noisy music band there, if my memory is right.

Yes - Nova - your memory is right! The Duck complained about the jazz band - but he must have liked something about the exhibition or he wouldn't be going back! Maybe the food - or the glamourous hostesses who work there - or just the chance to be so near me - his greatest fan :eek:

sigmagirl91
12-16-2004, 07:42 PM
Yes - Nova - your memory is right! The Duck complained about the jazz band - but he must have liked something about the exhibition or he wouldn't be going back! Maybe the food - or the glamourous hostesses who work there - or just the chance to be so near me - his greatest fan

:haha: :haha: :haha:

novanora
12-16-2004, 07:55 PM
Yes - Nova - your memory is right! The Duck complained about the jazz band - but he must have liked something about the exhibition or he wouldn't be going back! Maybe the food - or the glamourous hostesses who work there - or just the chance to be so near me - his greatest fan :eek:
:haha::haha: As being his greatest fan, Rosie, you should bring a Rock Band to him instead of the jazz band this year, less noisy, isn't it?

-ernie-
12-16-2004, 07:55 PM
I hope he plays Indian Wells, ill get to watch him if he does :)

jazz_girl
12-16-2004, 08:20 PM
I hope he plays Indian Wells, ill get to watch him if he does :)
I'm sure he'll play there next year, in recent interviews he said he regretted not being able to play that tournament because of his injury ;)

*Ljubica*
12-16-2004, 08:40 PM
I'm sure he'll play there next year, in recent interviews he said he regretted not being able to play that tournament because of his injury ;)

Yes - I'm sure he will. Indian Wells is a Masters; and a very prestigious tournament - it he is fit - he will be there for sure :)

-ernie-
12-17-2004, 03:37 AM
I'm sure he'll play there next year, in recent interviews he said he regretted not being able to play that tournament because of his injury ;)
thanks 4 that! :D

Iza
12-20-2004, 05:24 PM
i'm sure I won't see him cos he won't play a crappy clay tournie like Bucharest Open when there's the China Open :rolleyes:

*Ljubica*
12-23-2004, 07:51 AM
Here is a copy of the article from Clarns confirming that David will not appear in the Buenos Aires tournament next year because he is playing in Marseille and Rotterdam instead. Sorry guys from Argentina - but obviously I am happy because I can start making definate arrangements to go :) Coria will also be in Marseille and Rotterdam, - they say Gaudio has not yet definately made up his mind. Can't do a translation now as I'm at work, but his is the gist of the article. It says David agreed to play Marseilles before he definately knew the dates of the Buenos Aires tournament. Here is the link:-

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=892441


Coria y Nalbandian no jugarán el ATP argentino de febrero porque esa misma semana estarán en Marsella, certamen que les asegura dinero.


David pone la cara para el torneo marsellés. Una ilustración de Nalbandian es la imagen principal del afiche que promociona el certamen en la página web oficial. Al lado se lee la lista de otras figuras como Coria, Henman, Grosjean —el local— y Safin. El torneo se disputará del 7 al 13 de febrero en el Palais des Sports, bajo techo y sobre cemento, y repartirá 600.000 euros en premios.


Primero, la noticia. Los pibes maravilla, Guillermo Coria (defensor del título) y David Nalbandian, faltarán al ATP de Buenos Aires, que por estos días define su lista de jugadores y la posibilidad de un sponsor principal. En el caso de David, será su segunda ausencia consecutiva, ya que este año no pudo estar por una lesión de tobillo. En dicha semana, del 7 al 13 de febrero, ambos top ten jugarán en el cemento de Marsella, torneo que ofrece garantías (tema tabú en otra época, hoy abiertamente discutido: es el dinero que les pagan a los buenos para presentarse). El mismo Nalbandian confirmó ayer la noticia en el diario cordobés La Voz del Interior. En cuanto al Mago, ya había tomado el compromiso con sponsors en Francia antes de que el ATP argentino se corriera de fecha (se suele realizar en la tercera semana de febrero, no en la segunda). Martín Jaite, director del torneo, no hablará hasta el martes, en la presentación oficial de la lista de inscriptos. Una rápida navegación por Internet permite ubicar el afiche del torneo marsellés, adjunto en esta página. Allí se puede ver la imagen de David, elegido por sobre Safin y el local Grosjean. Guillermo y David también figuran en Rotterdam, la semana siguiente.

Luego, el análisis. Es cierto que el tenis es el trabajo de ambos y que pueden elegir los lugares donde sean mejor retribuidos. También, que son top ten y deben seleccionar cuidadosamente el calendario para optimizar los esfuerzos y soñar con el top cinco, luego aspirar al primer lugar. Además, Coria ahora reside en Barcelona y está a una hora de avión, y David se mueve mejor en canchas rápidas. Pero, sin pretender ofrecer una mirada populista, con lo que cuesta tener un torneo en la Argentina es un pecado que el público no disfrute de sus estrellas (Gastón Gaudio, ahora con ese status por Roland Garros, por ahora jugará). Es cierto que, por caso, Roger Federer cobra por presentarse en Gstaad o Basilea, torneos suizos. Pero también que la diferencia que puedan hacer en esas semanas no influirá decisivamente en las cuentas de fin de año. Podía esperarse un gesto de grandeza para contentar a un público que deberá aguardar hasta la Davis en marzo para verlos en vivo.

bovenbuuf
12-23-2004, 08:02 AM
wow also Coria will be in Rotterdam? That is not even on the site yet or on the mailinglist..But well could be fun.

*Ljubica*
12-23-2004, 08:23 AM
wow also Coria will be in Rotterdam? That is not even on the site yet or on the mailinglist..But well could be fun.

Guess he feels he might as well as he is Europe anyway.

jazz_girl
12-23-2004, 10:31 AM
Guess he feels he might as well as he is Europe anyway.
He's scared Gastón beats him at home as well :devil:

*Ljubica*
12-23-2004, 11:29 AM
He's scared Gastón beats him at home as well :devil:

:haha:

novanora
12-23-2004, 12:03 PM
i'm sure I won't see him cos he won't play a crappy clay tournie like Bucharest Open when there's the China Open :rolleyes:
eh.......I don't think he will play CO this year......again :p

novanora
12-23-2004, 12:08 PM
wow also Coria will be in Rotterdam? That is not even on the site yet or on the mailinglist..But well could be fun.
bov, donkey will be happy for this ;)

crigazzio
12-23-2004, 01:23 PM
Well.....There is nothing we can do...If is better for them.....
But since now Olé is doing coments no so nice of this.....I don´t like the articule they says that David and Coria are doing this for money, but is not the only reason.....
And Moya, Massú, Gonzalez say YES to Bs As, so.....

jazz_girl
12-23-2004, 01:31 PM
Ceci, are you listening to all of the mess that the journalists ar doing now because Gaudio didn't get the gold Olimpia? I have to say I agree, if they could give it to two people in the first time, they should given it to three!

bovenbuuf
12-23-2004, 05:46 PM
bov, donkey will be happy for this ;)
Yes I know.. when I read it, I text here imidiatly.. I knew she was on the train.. and well she was really happy to read it.. so she will certainly come!

Björki
01-06-2005, 05:46 PM
Jazz maybe you can put Davids schedule for 2005 in
the first messages of this thread? Would be great. :worship:
You posted the first one that's why I ask you :)

jazz_girl
01-06-2005, 06:09 PM
Sure, I'll do it! If I forget some, just let me know :)

jazz_girl
01-06-2005, 06:34 PM
Let me know if I made any mistakes, if some tournament is missing, or if he has confirmed his presence in another tournament :)

*Ljubica*
01-06-2005, 06:43 PM
Thanks Jazz :) But you forgot ATP Halle (Germany) which starts June 6th, and also the infamous Stoke Park Exhibition which starts the week after on Wednesday 15th June. Also- I'm pretty sure Milan won't happen now unless he loses early in AO and gets a wild card, so I would delete that if I were you.

jazz_girl
01-06-2005, 06:48 PM
When does Kooyong start?

jazz_girl
01-06-2005, 06:49 PM
Thanks Rosie

*Ljubica*
01-06-2005, 06:59 PM
You're welcome :) And Kooyong starts next Wednesday 12th January.

jazz_girl
01-06-2005, 07:01 PM
Thanks!

jazz_girl
01-13-2005, 12:55 PM
David is now confirmed for Barcelona :)
Other players confirmed are: Hewitt, Gaudio, Coria, Moya and Safin.

*Ljubica*
01-13-2005, 01:25 PM
David is now confirmed for Barcelona :)
Other players confirmed are: Hewitt, Gaudio, Coria, Moya and Safin.

That's a great line-up - I was thinking about going for a few days towards the end of the week - may make that definate now!!

jazz_girl
01-13-2005, 01:43 PM
There's a list with all the players that will go there and till now, David is the only one confirmed by the tournament :) Maybe you should go!

jazz_girl
01-13-2005, 01:45 PM
These are the players till now:
Lleyton Hewitt Australia 3 Designación
Marat Safin Rusia 4 Designación
Carlos Moyá España 5 Designación
Guillermo Coria Argentina 6 Designación
David Nalbandian Argentina 9 Confirmado por el torneo
Gastón Gaudio Argentina 10 Designación
Guillermo Cañas Argentina 12 Designación
Tommy Robredo España 13 Designación
Feliciano López España 24 Designación
Juan Ignacio Chela Argentina 26 Designación
Fernando Verdasco España 36 Designación
Xavier Malisse Bélgica 47 Designación
Rafael Nadal España 50 Designación
David Ferrer España 51 Designación
Michael Llodra Francia 52 Designación
Igor Andreev Rusia 53 Designación
Cyril Saulnier Francia 55 Designación

*Ljubica*
01-13-2005, 02:03 PM
There's a list with all the players that will go there and till now, David is the only one confirmed by the tournament :) Maybe you should go!

Yes I know - but I'm off the week afterwards to go to Rome for my birthday, and I don't think I can get two consecutive weeKs off work at this short notice :sad: Maybe I'll go sick :devil:

jazz_girl
01-13-2005, 02:04 PM
Well, Rome is even better, he has finals to defend and who knows, maybe he wins it :)
You know he likes big tournaments ;)

*Ljubica*
01-13-2005, 02:14 PM
Well, Rome is even better, he has finals to defend and who knows, maybe he wins it :)
You know he likes big tournaments ;)

Both would be better :devil: Rome is already organised and paid for, but I enjoyed Barca for the 2 days I went there last year. A friend of mine from the States is thinking about going - maybe I'll just have to accompany her!!!

jazz_girl
01-13-2005, 02:16 PM
Maybe you should ;)