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His future is bright, his future is orange!!!

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 11:24 AM
:haha: GWH - this should get your taste buds going again!

What can we expect of Tim Henman in 2005? Will he remain British number 1?

Greg Rusedski stated yesterday that his aim next year is to return to the top 20 and hopefully the top 10 - will he make it?

Discuss!!!! :haha:

CooCooCachoo
11-08-2004, 11:24 AM
Tim :bigclap:

Greg :rolleyes: Top 10 :tape:

Neely
11-08-2004, 11:26 AM
Apart from the doping issues that were raised against him at the beginning of the year, Greg had a good year and I can see him improving his ranking very much, but as long as Henman is healthy, he won't be ranked in front of Henman and I personally can't see Rusedski in the top 20, let alone in the top 10 :tape:

WyveN
11-08-2004, 11:27 AM
top 30 is the best greggy can hope for........got a feeling age may catch up with Tim next year as his game is very physically demanding

bad gambler
11-08-2004, 11:27 AM
yeah rusedksi is too old....at best a top 50 player

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 11:29 AM
Henman is quite capable of finally reaching a Grand Slam final and if he is going to do it i feel it will have to be the Aussie Open which commentators say is the GRand Slam which most favours his game. Tim has a lot of points falling off from Indian Wells, Monte Carlo and Roland Garros which, if he has a poor start to next year, will put him out of the top 10 by Wimbledon - not good for being a title contender.

If he can get some consistency into his results next year, at a good level, then he can reach the elusive top 3, but he needs a good run at the Masters Cup to be able to give himself a flying start (Safin and Roddick defend a lot of points in Aussie Open and Hewitt defends a lot in the first 3 months).

Greg Rusedski - he has demonstrated how well he can play when he is injury-free and free of all mental tortures and is quite capable of reaching the top 20 next year - top 10 may be out of his reach. Much will depend on his results in the Masters and Grand Slams as he has little extra to gain from the smaller tournaments.

What do you guys think? :)

bad gambler
11-08-2004, 11:31 AM
can't see him getting to AO final...it's just going to be dominated by baseliners

theoretically his best chance is at wimbledon, but he has had that many chances that yiu have to question whether his best chances are behind him

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 11:56 AM
can't see him getting to AO final...it's just going to be dominated by baseliners

theoretically his best chance is at wimbledon, but he has had that many chances that yiu have to question whether his best chances are behind him

The Australian Open is wide open anyway because at the start of the year a lot of players that are favourites aren't ready either because they have been lazy in the off-season, injured or just plain exhausted from an excellent last season. Anybody can win it and I'd rate Henman and Rusedski in the top 20 of favourites because they work hard in the off-season and in the past have started their years off well.

Wimbledon? His chances came around 2000/2001 when the grass was faster. If the grass were the same speed now as then, then he would have won it by now.

BaselineSmash
11-08-2004, 12:14 PM
Henman has been going the way of Alex Corretja since the US Open, in that he doesn't really seem to care whether he loses a set 6-1 or 7-6. He even said that he wasn't too concerned about getting to the Masters or not. :tape: That said, he could just be playing it safe with his shoulder. And out of the four slams, RG seems to favour him most, bizarrely, provided many of the top claycourters are injured as they were this season.

Rusedski has had a decent end to the year, and he'll be in the year-end top 50 in 2005 if he's as motivated as he claims to be. As for breaking the top 20, there's no harm in being delusionally unrealistic I reckon...

Wulfram
11-08-2004, 12:54 PM
Henman has been going the way of Alex Corretja since the US Open, in that he doesn't really seem to care whether he loses a set 6-1 or 7-6. He even said that he wasn't too concerned about getting to the Masters or not. :tape: That said, he could just be playing it safe with his shoulder. And out of the four slams, RG seems to favour him most, bizarrely, provided many of the top claycourters are injured as they were this season.

Rusedski has had a decent end to the year, and he'll be in the year-end top 50 in 2005 if he's as motivated as he claims to be. As for breaking the top 20, there's no harm in being delusionally unrealistic I reckon...

Not being bothered about the masters was mainly an attempt to relieve pressure and avoid suffering his patented choke at the last moment, I suspect. This is what he said after his place was confirmed, according to the Times.

"Paul (Annacone, his coach) said I have had a great year regardless of making it to Houston, but deep down I thought, ‘Bugger it, I want to qualify this time.’ ”

I do think his form has gone down pretty significantly since RG, though. The US Open was a bright spot, but even there he got through on guts rather than particularly good tennis, and other than that it's been all rather mediocre.

For Greg, Top 20 seems to me a reasonable target to aim at, though it'll be tough to achieve. Top 10 isn't going to happen.

TennisLurker
11-08-2004, 02:32 PM
I dont like greg, but I think he is a very underrated player, he is not as awful as some people think.

I think he will end next year in the top 30

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 02:35 PM
I dont like greg, but I think he is a very underrated player, he is not as awful as some people think.

I think he will end next year in the top 30

so do i - if he doesn't get injured or get diagnosed positive for taking some illegal hair dye or cold remedy or get banned for wearing an alice band that goes 1mm over the legal width.

MissPovaFan
11-08-2004, 02:55 PM
I also feel that if Tim is going to win a Grand Slam then it will be at Roland Garros - Tim's game has changed and isnt working as good nowadays on the grass or fast hard courts. As for the main question I feel Tim will still be top 10 come the end of next year and Greg will be top 40.

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 02:58 PM
I also feel that if Tim is going to win a Grand Slam then it will be at Roland Garros - Tim's game has changed and isnt working as good nowadays on the grass or fast hard courts. As for the main question I feel Tim will still be top 10 come the end of next year and Greg will be top 40.

Roland Garros???? He won't have a run like that again I'm afraid. He will do the same as Pistol Pete - apper in RG semi once but never get close again.

His best chance is the Aussie Open. US Open doesn't suit him much and Wimbledon - each year he reacts worse and worse to the pressure and i see that great run (not being beaten before R4 in 10 years) being ended soon unfortunately.

RPH
11-08-2004, 04:22 PM
While I like Greg I think top 10 is very unrealistic instead of highly realistic

Top 30 and an excellent masters/slam is what he should be aiming for :)

Sjengster
11-08-2004, 06:40 PM
Rusedski has always talked a good game, but he does have the drive and determination to back it up a lot of the time - I certainly thought he was dead and buried after Wimbledon this year and never believed his suggestions of making a comeback, but he worked his way methodically back to the Top 50. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he made it into the Top 30 and the Slam seedings next year, but come on - Top 20? Top 10? That requires Grand Slam QFs and Masters Series semis, and he hasn't achieved those in this millennium, never mind since his injuries and drug scandals of the last two years.

As for the ongoing saga of Henman... first things first, thank goodness he made it to the TMC this time, but it's rather worrying that he got there because his challengers pulled out of the Race rather than because he made the points up himself. A lot depends on the group he's in, but just a couple of match wins or maybe even one would make him Top 5 at the end of the year if Coria and Moya can't defend their one RR victory from last year (highly possible, given their injury concerns); in short, his highest ever year-end ranking. Then he needs to gain some points at the AO, make the quarters there for the first time hopefully, so there's a points cushion before IW and RG especially.

He's not going to defend that semifinal in Paris, the draw was handy even though it was indeed the last time so far this year that he played really excellent tennis - the matches against Blanco and Chela in particular were superb. I do think clay is one of the best surfaces for his serve nowadays, but you can't suggest it's the best for his overall game, I direct you to the 13-game losing streak in the semifinal against Coria for evidence of that. More worryingly, since then he's had a cold during the grass season, a back problem during the hardcourt season and now a magnesium deficiency during the indoor season.

I actually think the US Open is the best surface for his game at the moment, but a route through that doesn't involve playing 22 and a half sets and then meeting Federer in the semis is needed if he's to actually win the title. Wimbledon... when statistics flat-out tell you that "playing to your strengths" is losing you sets and matches, I don't know what the answer is. I find it hard to see him winning there unless his serve gets more accurate, more reliable and more varied. Pace is not a problem, he doesn't serve any slower than Federer on average, but the difference in disguise and consistency is like night and day.

Horatio Caine
11-08-2004, 11:58 PM
Sjengster - I love reading your posts. They're so accurate and well-written and informative at the same time! Like poetry! :worship: :worship:

Corey Feldman
11-09-2004, 04:05 AM
Tim will win 2 titles next year ....

2 of his celebrity golf pro-ams :rolls: :p

Billabong
11-09-2004, 04:06 AM
;)

Horatio Caine
11-09-2004, 09:50 AM
Tim will win 2 titles next year ....

2 of his celebrity golf pro-ams :rolls: :p

:haha: :haha:

FryslanBoppe
11-09-2004, 09:58 AM
Tim will win 2 titles next year ....

2 of his celebrity golf pro-ams :rolls: :p

:haha:

But Henman will finish higher than Rusedski next year, but for Greg well he should be able to get into most of the Masters events, and if he wants to have a good year, he should just skip the clay season.

Horatio Caine
11-09-2004, 10:08 AM
and if he wants to have a good year, he should just skip the clay season.

Don't agree with that - if he is able to get into the clay masters by right then he should play them - it is not as if he can't win good matches on clay. If he has to qualify which is unlikely then yes he shouldn't bother. Clay helps a player home in their skills and if Greg were to miss 3 months of the tour because of clay he will miss match sharpness by Wimbledon.

He should do what Henman does - play all the clay Masters and that's it. He should maybe play Barcelona as well where he has a realistic chance of the making the QF.

Besides, if he skipped clay, what would happen if we draw Spain away in the World Group qualifying next September???

FryslanBoppe
11-09-2004, 10:11 AM
Don't agree with that - if he is able to get into the clay masters by right then he should play them - it is not as if he can't win good matches on clay. If he has to qualify which is unlikely then yes he shouldn't bother. Clay helps a player home in their skills and if Greg were to miss 3 months of the tour because of clay he will miss match sharpness by Wimbledon.

For my own amusement he should play these events, because I like watching the Horse play on clay, then again he is not as funny as the Duck. It's just Rusedski is Srichaphan like on the surface and it might not give him any confidence losing all those matches in a row.

He should do what Henman does - play all the clay Masters and that's it. He should maybe play Barcelona as well where he has a realistic chance of the making the QF.

Henman does have more ability on clay, and he did make a conscious effort to improve his results, unlike some other fastcourt players.

Besides, if he skipped clay, what would happen if we draw Spain away in the World Group qualifying next September???

Wouldn't you play Andres Murray in that tie.