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World Group play-off: Israel at Japan (September 14-16, 2012)

guyha4
09-13-2012, 09:37 AM
Venue: Ariake Coliseum, Tokyo, Japan (Hard court)

Teams
Japan:
Kei Nishkori(#16)
Go Soeda (#53)
Tatsuma Ito (#67)
Yuichi Sugita (#141)
Captain: Toshiro Sakai

Israel:
Dudi Sela(#98)
Amir weintraub (#223)
Jonathan Erlich (doubles #52)
Andy Ram (doubles #53)
Captain: Eyal Ran

OOP:
Go Soeda vs. Dudi Sela (13:00 Local time)
Kei Nishkori vs. Amir Weintraub

Ito/Sugita vs. Erlich/Ram (13:00 Local time)

Kei Nishkori vs. Dudi Sela (13:00 Local time)
Go Soeda vs. Amir Weintraub

Sombrerero loco
09-13-2012, 06:55 PM
go japan :bowdown:

*Jean*
09-14-2012, 10:08 AM
Soeda d Sela 62 64 36 64 :sad:

Weintraud leads Ito 63 62

*Jean*
09-14-2012, 10:33 AM
Weintraub d Ito 63 62 64 :eek: :yeah:

guyha4
09-14-2012, 12:30 PM
Sela didnt play his best and he could win it.. (he had 3-0 head to head against his opponent)
Weintraub showed great charcter .. he played well and deserve that match (he won a match aginst a top 100 player after 8 straight loses)
till now the underdogs won the matches hope tommorow wont be the same

Sombrerero loco
09-14-2012, 04:22 PM
bad decition not chosing nishikori against weintraub, he would have won for sure

willoughby
09-15-2012, 05:05 AM
bad decition not chosing nishikori against weintraub, he would have won for sure

Kei has a shoulder injury :sad:

Seeing Ito's poor level from yesterday, hopefully Sugita will play the 4th rubber against Sela tomorrow.

Doubles rubber is about to start. Not expecting much from the Japanese pair here, but I hope they can make the upset.

Dead Net Cord
09-15-2012, 08:23 AM
Erlich/Ram def. Ito/Sugita 5/7 6/3 6/3 6/1
Ram had some health issues, he was not 100%.

Israel 2:1 Japan

Sombrerero loco
09-15-2012, 08:53 AM
japanese need to win both matches tomorrow, they can do it indeed but ito please dont screw it up again :o

Honzicekkk
09-15-2012, 08:58 AM
I suppose Sela will overcome Ito tomorrow. Ito was playing like crap yesterday against Weintraub and in doubles, too. He is in a real poor form.

Sombrerero loco
09-15-2012, 09:23 AM
just replace him for kei

Honzicekkk
09-15-2012, 10:08 AM
just replace him for kei

He still has his shoulder problems, doesn't he? He would't play if he's not 100% fit I guess.

willoughby
09-15-2012, 11:11 AM
He still has his shoulder problems, doesn't he? He would't play if he's not 100% fit I guess.

Yeah, I don't think Kei will play at all. It would be awful to go on court and then having to retire with injury, literally gifting the tie to Israel. That would be worse than just seeing Ito or Sugita losing fair and square against Sela.

willoughby
09-16-2012, 04:39 AM
Looks like Kei will play against Sela. I hope he's 100% and can play his best today. Good luck Japan!

willoughby
09-16-2012, 07:39 AM
Kei 63 36 46 *00

Dudi is playing really well today. Much better than against Soeda. He's always been a great DC player, and he's showing that today after his disappointing performance from Friday. It won't be easy for Kei :sad:

willoughby
09-16-2012, 09:50 AM
Kei won 63 36 46 64 75 :woohoo: Highly entertaining match. Good luck to Soeda now. He already lost the decisive rubber against Croatia this year. Hopefully it won't be the same today!

Sombrerero loco
09-16-2012, 10:25 AM
told ya kei would play and save this tie. no one trusted me though :hysteric:

Dead Net Cord
09-16-2012, 10:57 AM
Weintraub - Soeda 6/3

Soeda looks like he's going to squander Kei's win.

willoughby
09-16-2012, 11:20 AM
Soeda is screwing it up. Blows a 0-40 on return and then gets broken in the next game. 3-6 2-3*

How can Weintraub be ranked 223 btw? He's playing awesome tennis this weekend.

Dead Net Cord
09-16-2012, 02:14 PM
Weintraub def. Soeda 6/3 7/6(5) 4/6 6/3
Soeda couldn't deal with the pressure.

Israel 3:2 Japan

Guy_American
09-16-2012, 02:53 PM
How can Weintraub be ranked 223 btw? He's playing awesome tennis this weekend.

Yeah, I was surprised by his level too! I was 100% sure that if Soeda won match against Sela, then he will make it easy over Weintraub. I was wrong :)

TalTennis
09-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Wow, what an amazing win! I couldn't believe my eyes!
Did it ever happen that a player ranked as low as Weintraub won two live rubbers in a world group playoff?
i think this is Israel's most surprising davis cup win ever. More than Chile 2006 and Russia 2009. Those were at home, with Israeli players in good form and one of the best doubles teams in the world. This one was an away tie, against a much better team on paper, with all of Israel's players in bad form in the circuit and Japan's tennis having its best year.
I'm still in shock we won this, Israel is such a davis cup over-achiever. The greatest team Israel has ever had in any sport.

TalTennis
09-16-2012, 04:33 PM
How can Weintraub be ranked 223 btw? He's playing awesome tennis this weekend.

He lacks a lot in his game. Not good enough forehand, bad volley, some bad shot selection and lack of variety, reaction not quick enough, and big lack in speed.
But this weekend he had the biggest heart...

nole_no1
09-16-2012, 04:39 PM
Japan would've won this if Nishikori would've played against Weintraub. But i don't want to get anything away from the israelians especially from Weintraub who probably had the week of his life. Congrats :yeah:

appleGirl
09-16-2012, 11:07 PM
Soeda is screwing it up. Blows a 0-40 on return and then gets broken in the next game. 3-6 2-3*

How can Weintraub be ranked 223 btw? He's playing awesome tennis this weekend.

The answer is simple - no coach/physio/team to support him. When he's on tour he has to travel alone. This is 90% of what stops him from... top 100, I guess is his potential level.

TalTennis
10-03-2012, 09:59 AM
Not really an excuse, it's pretty much the situation with all the players ranked around where he is. Still some break out while others don't.
This year in particular he is being practically endorsed by Shlomo Tzoref (non-Israelis may not know him, but he is a top veteran tennis coach in Israel), he has a clothing sponsor and an equipment sponsor, he plays WTT and gets payment and coach/medical package when he's there. In addition to that, the amount of future tournaments in Israel has grown considerably (12 this year, 15 next year) so he has more opportunities to play relatively easy tournaments at home, get some easy ranking points and save on expenses.

Now, what's left is to win games on the tour. Like I said, there are many lacks in his game, and at age 26 bad habits are harder to shake than at age 16. I hope for the best for him, he is now a Davis Cup hero with amazing accomplishments now. But please - now win games on the tour instead of whining...