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Cowboy Hats, Oil, Rednecks and Gaston in Houston cheering thread

Action Jackson
11-04-2004, 05:06 AM
Well this is the thread to cheer for Gaston in Houston. I don't expect him to win the title, but he is there playing against the best.

So Vamos El Gato.

Choupi
11-04-2004, 07:25 AM
Yeah.....not the title though it would be so great! But some matches at least. As there will only be the best players there, he will have the opportunity to show he deserves his top10 ranking.

So come on Gaston! We're all behind you! :yippee: :dance: :bounce:

PerezRoldan
11-04-2004, 07:33 AM
It will be interesting to see which group he will be drawn in, but that will be answered soon enough.

nenadeSergio
11-04-2004, 01:53 PM
Winning the tournament is not necessary, a huge achievement is heīll be there. But some nice victories would be a sweet bonus. :)

*Ljubica*
11-04-2004, 08:38 PM
Yes - buena suerte Gaston :)

User id 7816
11-04-2004, 09:19 PM
I'll be happy if he beats the midgets Hewitt and Coria ;) I know he can,I'm sure he can,he's 999 times better than them on any surface including Moon dust.
Lets not overrate his chances but lets not underrate them aswell. I think he's capable of making the semis, but I just hope he'll give his best because he himself said that it's an important tournament for him. So Gato.....:woohoo: .....HAVE FUN our dear Houston rocket!!!!! :bowdown: :aparty: :bounce:

Lee
11-04-2004, 10:37 PM
Good luck Gaudio! He's my #1 guy in Houston.

Action Jackson
11-05-2004, 05:14 AM
As long as he performs to his best, then that is good enough and hopefully he can get the midget Coria in his group, that would make things interesting.

*Ljubica*
11-05-2004, 11:41 AM
As long as he performs to his best, then that is good enough and hopefully he can get the midget Coria in his group, that would make things interesting.

I'm still hoping the "midget Coria" doesn't go to Houston :devil: :devil: But if he remains pig-headed and arrogant and insists on going - hope Gaston beats him 6-0, 6-0!!!!!

Choupi
11-05-2004, 12:22 PM
Yeah Rosie!!!!!!!!.........I'm with you! :bounce: :yeah: :banana:

Gaston will explode him! :armed:

Action Jackson
11-06-2004, 03:03 AM
I'm still hoping the "midget Coria" doesn't go to Houston :devil: :devil: But if he remains pig-headed and arrogant and insists on going - hope Gaston beats him 6-0, 6-0!!!!!

That scenario would be almost as good as the RG final, though you know for sure that midget will call for the trainer at some point.

Adri
11-06-2004, 03:20 AM
Vaaaaaamooooossss Gastón!!! Show the cowboys what you're capable of! :hatoff: <-- LOL! that's not a cowboy smilie but it's the one that looks the most like one...

Fedex
11-06-2004, 04:48 AM
I'm loving the title of this thread and Vamos Gaston! :) I hope he just plays good matches that's all. I am not expecting him to win this tournement, but if he plays Coria, I will expect him to beat him again. :)

Fedex
11-06-2004, 04:50 AM
I'm still hoping the "midget Coria" doesn't go to Houston :devil: :devil: But if he remains pig-headed and arrogant and insists on going - hope Gaston beats him 6-0, 6-0!!!!!
Never fear, Rosie. If its needed, Roger already has his bagels prepared for Coria, should he go to Houston. ;) Just ask Hewitt, but he needs some suggestions on flavors. Any suggestions, Rosie?

Zetlandsk
11-06-2004, 05:05 AM
Gaston is there and that's all that counts, but I hope he can win a match at least.

tommy_girl
11-06-2004, 11:01 AM
Vamos Gaston!!! :wavey:

just enjoy the moment and dont let too much pressure get into you.. ;)

Fondueischguät
11-07-2004, 02:18 PM
Good to see him there and I hope he can do well and shut up those ignorant arse clowns who think he has never won a match off clay.

*Ljubica*
11-07-2004, 05:17 PM
Now that David has said he will not accept an alternate's place in Houston because he isn't fit enough, I sincerely hope Canas can go there as alternate to keep Gaston company :) Can't leave poor Gaston with just the "evil midget" as GWH calls him - can we!

WyveN
11-08-2004, 11:51 AM
I think the surface will suit Gaston more then the indoor tournaments. Think he can definetly win a match but I am hoping he gets a easier draw. Coria would be great.

nenadeSergio
11-08-2004, 02:53 PM
I have no doubt! And if not....as Iīve already told, itīs great heīs there! :worship:

MissPovaFan
11-08-2004, 03:11 PM
I cant see Gaudio beating Roddick, Hewitt, Henman or Safin at TMC but he has chances against Coria, Federer, and Moya I think.

TennisLurker
11-08-2004, 07:25 PM
I can see him beating hewitt

Fedex
11-09-2004, 02:28 AM
I can see him beating hewitt
Possibly, and I defenitly think he has a great chance against Coria, so I hope he draws him.

Fedex
11-09-2004, 02:30 AM
By the way, I think I've discovered the indentity of our friend, hitchhiker. Read his posts in the thread about Gaston in GM, I believe he is really Jim. ;) Would not suprise me, as he has not ever once said an intelligent thing on MTF.

Action Jackson
11-09-2004, 06:19 AM
By the way, I think I've discovered the indentity of our friend, hitchhiker. Read his posts in the thread about Gaston in GM, I believe he is really Jim. ;) Would not suprise me, as he has not ever once said an intelligent thing on MTF.

He is a paid member of the Jim cheer squad, and of course this is the one who keep gloating that Roddick would beat Federer at Wimbledon.

Action Jackson
11-09-2004, 06:20 AM
Well done FB on starting the excuse thread in GM, it is important to laugh at some of the simpletons on this board.

Vale
11-09-2004, 02:18 PM
I wonder if in the end they'll all play in Houston. Eurosport said (dated Nov.8):

“It's generally accepted on the tour that when Safin is hot, he's unplayable --and the same could be said of Roger Federer in 2004.

Should the pair be drawn together at the Masters Cup expect a high-quality affair.

Federer flew into Houston on Friday evening to get further treatment for a thigh injury and begin his preparations alongside other fellow qualifiers, Andy Roddick, Carlos Moya, Gaston Gaudio, Henman and Hewitt.

Guillermo Coria may turn up, but the Argentine hasn't played since shoulder surgery in August and this factor will leave the door open for Agassi or Nalbandian”.

*Ljubica*
11-09-2004, 05:52 PM
I wonder if in the end they'll all play in Houston. Eurosport said (dated Nov.8):

“It's generally accepted on the tour that when Safin is hot, he's unplayable --and the same could be said of Roger Federer in 2004.

Should the pair be drawn together at the Masters Cup expect a high-quality affair.

Federer flew into Houston on Friday evening to get further treatment for a thigh injury and begin his preparations alongside other fellow qualifiers, Andy Roddick, Carlos Moya, Gaston Gaudio, Henman and Hewitt.

Guillermo Coria may turn up, but the Argentine hasn't played since shoulder surgery in August and this factor will leave the door open for Agassi or Nalbandian”.

David has already said he won't go to Houston as an alternate as he isn't fully fit after his latest injury. I'm really not sure whether Agassi would accept an alternate's place, and the rumour I hear at the moment is that Guillermo Canas will be the alternate because he is next down on the list.

Fedex
11-10-2004, 03:03 AM
He is a paid member of the Jim cheer squad, and of course this is the one who keep gloating that Roddick would beat Federer at Wimbledon.
:lol: I'll never forget the comments he made before the final, about him winning alot of money, and making us look like fools. I am interested to see what antics Jim will bring with him this year at Houston.

Fedex
11-10-2004, 03:05 AM
I wonder if in the end they'll all play in Houston. Eurosport said (dated Nov.8):

“It's generally accepted on the tour that when Safin is hot, he's unplayable --and the same could be said of Roger Federer in 2004.

Should the pair be drawn together at the Masters Cup expect a high-quality affair.

Federer flew into Houston on Friday evening to get further treatment for a thigh injury and begin his preparations alongside other fellow qualifiers, Andy Roddick, Carlos Moya, Gaston Gaudio, Henman and Hewitt.

Guillermo Coria may turn up, but the Argentine hasn't played since shoulder surgery in August and this factor will leave the door open for Agassi or Nalbandian”.
I hope the media doesnt hype up a possible Safin Federer showdown too much. They do that with Federer and Roddick, and it backfires everytime, and the match usually ends up very one sided. They need to learn when to draw the line.

Fedex
11-10-2004, 03:07 AM
Vamos Gaston. I am eagerly awaiting to see the draw. It'd be great if he could beat Roddick, but I suppose we should leave that up to Federer.

Action Jackson
11-10-2004, 03:43 AM
:lol: I'll never forget the comments he made before the final, about him winning alot of money, and making us look like fools. I am interested to see what antics Jim will bring with him this year at Houston.

Not long to go and we can find out. It's good to see the idiot factor on GM hasn't changed, there are some people that need ripping.

I never hype matches, it doesn't achieve anything.

joeb_uk
11-10-2004, 10:06 PM
RED GROUP
Federer
Hewitt
Moya
Gaudio

BLUE GROUP
Roddick
Safin
Coria
Henman

joeb_uk
11-10-2004, 10:07 PM
just some info i posted in gm
Thanks for that, not to bad draw for gaston actually!
He can trouble federer, and has done so before. I feel he can actually attack the federer backhand, one of the reasons he troubles federer. to be fair, federers backhand isnt as good as someone like gaudio.
Gaudio also has a winning record against hewitt, but all his wins have come on clay. so i feel gaston has a chance to beat hewitt.
Not to sure how he will match up against moya, but its a better matchup than if he was playing henman or roddick

I feel he does have a good chance against hewitt and federer, what do you guys think?

MissPovaFan
11-10-2004, 10:13 PM
If Federer and Moya arent 100% I reckon Gaudio can qualify! Im certainly not writing him off and feel he has as much a chance as any of qualifying! I feel Hewitt will top the group and that Gaudio v Federer will be the key match as to who qualifies.

Action Jackson
11-11-2004, 01:25 AM
I am dancing at this group. This is the one I would have wanted except maybe Coria for Moya.

Federer - Yes, he is a gun and has a 3-0 record against Gaston. What many people forget in the match at Montreal was that Gaudio was living with him and Federer couldn't break down the backhand and only won 7-5 in the 3rd, when the old Gaston nerve failed him. The same as in Hamburg, and I don't see why Gaston can't do quite well this match, if he actully believes he can win and that's the key.

Hewitt- These two have immense respect for each other and that's plain to say and even though Gaudio leads 3-2 on H2H, in reality it should be 4-1 after the Monte Carlo meltdown. Gaudio has the game to trouble Hewitt in a big way and Gaston took a set from him as well it was 7-6, 6-7 6-3 in Miami and this is supposed to be a slower court.

Moya is the great unknown actually, but at the same time I just want to see those clowns faces on MTF if he wins a set let alone a match.

Fedex
11-11-2004, 02:46 AM
I like his chances against Hewitt, and maybe Moya. We'll have to wait and see. Not sure how Federer will play. I hope he shows up and serves Hewitt some more bagels, but I fear his tremendous winning streak vs. Hewitt may end here. I dont think Roddick will make it alive, out of the blue group, with Safin and Henman in his draw.

Action Jackson
11-11-2004, 02:52 AM
If he wins a match, I will love it and rub into the people that deserve it.

Lee
11-11-2004, 05:07 AM
I have the insane feeling that Gaudio has a chance vs Federer and Hewitt but will easily be beaten by Moya. :eek:

Action Jackson
11-11-2004, 06:20 AM
I have the insane feeling that Gaudio has a chance vs Federer and Hewitt but will easily be beaten by Moya. :eek:

That would be typical though wouldn't it.

Marc Rosset is Tall
11-11-2004, 09:33 AM
I am not quite dancing at this group, but I am happy that Gaston got this group in many ways and he can't be passive and as long as he puts in and wins a match that will enough to shut up the lumpen on GM.

User id 7816
11-11-2004, 11:33 AM
Not much but it all depends on Gato's mindset towards and during each match.As GWH said, he's been able to walk rather closely with both Fed and Hewitt in their hardcourt matches, and in the end, it has come down the the mental strength and the belief, who'll end the match with 51% desire and who with 49%. I guess that's what happens with the likes of Fed or Hewitt-they are on top cause they hold the 2% when it matters.
Well the time that matters has come, and my deepest hope is that the confidence of being a GS champ has made a permanent mark on Gato's mind and will give him strengths in the toughest moments.I think you can't beat someone if you have the one-sided thought "he is better than me"...dont you?
GATO,YOU ARE AMONG THE BEST NOW, REMEMBER!

joeb_uk
11-11-2004, 12:46 PM
I really hope he does have the mindset, and treats the tournament as seriously as he can! but if he doesnt, i feel hes not gonna do well

Vale
11-11-2004, 01:17 PM
I agree with you, Alma. But I'm hoping that GG's humility might serve him in good stead this time, as he doesn't expect to win and has nothing to loose, therefore no pressure. I remember he said after his match against Hewitt in RG: "I thought I would be nervous but I wasn't nervous at all". Presumably he felt he was on borrowed time anyway and loosened-up, and that was his best match of the tournament.

User id 7816
11-11-2004, 02:20 PM
yeah but I guess as a no.8 seed he should be feeling least pressure anyway, I hope so....there's no place for pressure for him, his energy should be in the game...in any case, winning or not winning a match, i hope he gives his best. 8-)

Choupi
11-11-2004, 03:05 PM
Not much but it all depends on Gato's mindset towards and during each match.As GWH said, he's been able to walk rather closely with both Fed and Hewitt in their hardcourt matches, and in the end, it has come down the the mental strength and the belief, who'll end the match with 51% desire and who with 49%. I guess that's what happens with the likes of Fed or Hewitt-they are on top cause they hold the 2% when it matters.
Well the time that matters has come, and my deepest hope is that the confidence of being a GS champ has made a permanent mark on Gato's mind and will give him strengths in the toughest moments.I think you can't beat someone if you have the one-sided thought "he is better than me"...dont you?
GATO,YOU ARE AMONG THE BEST NOW, REMEMBER!

He Alma, this pic should sum up what you think, what many of us here think... ;)

Fedex
11-11-2004, 05:57 PM
:lol:

*Ljubica*
11-11-2004, 07:08 PM
He Alma, this pic should sum up what you think, what many of us here think... ;)

Awww Choupi - that picture is sooo cute!! That kitten looks just like my two ginger cats looked when they were really young - absolutely adorable :cat:

User id 7816
11-11-2004, 11:20 PM
luvly pic indeed!....Gaston should see it too;)....besides, not everyone sees a mighty image in the mirror...;).....shhhhhhh...http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/biggrin.gif

Adri
11-11-2004, 11:31 PM
Aww, cute picture... it reminds me of the interview ESPN did to Gastón just after he won RG [like half an hour later] where they told him he was no longer "the cat" but "the lion"! Gastón of course, was still so over the moon with everything going on that he just said "yeah, if you guys want to call me that way..." :toothy:

Adri
11-11-2004, 11:34 PM
luvly pic indeed!....Gaston should see it too;)....besides, not everyone sees a mighty image in the mirror...;).....shhhhhhh...http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/biggrin.gif

:rolls: :rolls: @ that pic...

Adri
11-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Hoooolaaa Sol! :bigwave:

Hey everyone, they've published the schedule for Monday and Tuesday and Gastón will play the 1st match this year, against Federer on Monday at 2pm ET :D

http://www.masters-cup.com/oncourt/2004.asp

Action Jackson
11-12-2004, 03:30 AM
Funny picture and what an opening match and I for one and am happy that Gaston got Federer first, as this is his best chance to trouble and to hopefully defeat him.

Choupi
11-12-2004, 05:19 AM
Oh Alma what have you done with my pic? :eek:

And where is my kitten? :awww: Is that a trick of the artist??????? :rolleyes:

taysbest
11-12-2004, 12:30 PM
Great Pics Choupi and Alma!! :D

nenadeSergio
11-12-2004, 01:58 PM
Cool pics!!!! I had a good laugh spesh over the second one. :haha: :haha: :haha:

Anyway, what a start of this yearīs Masters Cup!!!!! :clap2: I hope īll be able to watch it on Eurosport. Thatīd be cool!

*Ljubica*
11-12-2004, 03:51 PM
luvly pic indeed!....Gaston should see it too;)....besides, not everyone sees a mighty image in the mirror...;).....shhhhhhh...http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/biggrin.gif

That picture gave me a really good laugh on a really bad day!!! Thanks :)

User id 7816
11-12-2004, 05:08 PM
Is that a trick of the artist??????? :rolleyes:
yeah Choupi, it obviously is :angel:
thanx everyone for liking it http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/teufel/756.gif

Cant wait for the 1st match of Gaston with Roger, it will probably be the most interesting one of the 3, and yeah he's got the chance to do something there,a first match and Roger may not be on fire yet...Its at 8 pm CET time, just about perfect and I'm looking forward to the ES commentators' view on Gaston being in the MC, should be fun.http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/medien/whis_skype-ash-giggle01_30565.gif

Vamos Gato!!!
http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/huepfend/jump.gif

Tricky_Forehand
11-12-2004, 06:44 PM
I wanted to join in the cheering thread for Gaston in case I'm kept too busy next week to post. I've seen some not so positive posts about Gaston elsewhere so I wanted to post in the positive thread :). I really hope that Gaston won't be too nervous and he can play at his beat and win a few matches. If not make a SF ;)

Vale
11-12-2004, 08:03 PM
I read in the Argentine newspaper Clarin today that both Coria and Gaudio use # 13 court to practice. They greeted cordially, wished each other good luck, and then Gaudio went on training hard. "Gaudio, authentic and happy before his presentation in the Masters Cup", the article said.
Good luck Gaston!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fedex
11-13-2004, 01:22 AM
. I've seen some not so positive posts about Gaston elsewhere so I wanted to post in the positive thread :).
Any chance that CoriaFan4ever posted in that thread?

Action Jackson
11-13-2004, 04:43 AM
It looks like an early morning rise for myself to see this match, but it will be worth it and I will love it, if he wins a set, so I can have more ammo in dealing with clowns on GM.

MeluG
11-13-2004, 12:24 PM
Yes Vale but guess who did Gaston practice with? Yes!...Safin =O)

RogiFan88
11-13-2004, 09:07 PM
gaston and marat? cool!!

Action Jackson
11-14-2004, 04:12 AM
Gaston has great taste in practice partners and hopefully he will practice with Marat again.

Fedex
11-14-2004, 04:37 AM
Gaston has great taste in practice partners and hopefully he will practice with Marat again.
Yes he does, but I was so sure Gaston would atleast practice with his good pal Coria.

Action Jackson
11-14-2004, 04:43 AM
Yes he does, but I was so sure Gaston would atleast practice with his good pal Coria.

I love how everyone is writing Gaudio off and this clown still wouldn't answer my questions about him being a hypocrite.

Then that muppet hh tries to equate Roddick on clay as good as Gaudio on a hardcourt.

This who Gaston has beaten on hardcourts.

Novak
Schalken
Kafelnikov
Ferrero (twice)
Agassi
Canas
Clement
Schuettler
Grosjean
T.Martin
F.Lopez
Enqvist

Not bad for a dud. :)

Boludo
11-14-2004, 03:50 PM
I love how everyone is writing Gaudio off and this clown still wouldn't answer my questions about him being a hypocrite.

Then that muppet hh tries to equate Roddick on clay as good as Gaudio on a hardcourt.

This who Gaston has beaten on hardcourts.

Novak
Schalken
Kafelnikov
Ferrero (twice)
Agassi
Canas
Clement
Schuettler
Grosjean
T.Martin
F.Lopez
Enqvist

Not bad for a dud. :)

Yes, those are good wins for someone who can't play on hardcourts.

It was a good interview and he knows what he has to do to win. I am not sure if the cold conditions will help him, but he can only do his best.

Vladimir Poutine
11-15-2004, 02:54 AM
I have heard the weather forecast isn't meant to be great. If you are going to hold on outdoor tournament in November do it in a desert.

Enough of this, the conditions are the same for everyone and I am happy that Gaston has the first match, it will be his best chance to catch Roger out, he has nothing to lose, but he can't be too defensive as that isn't the best way, though I don't expect to see serve/volley points on second serves.

*Ljubica*
11-15-2004, 10:09 AM
Yes he does, but I was so sure Gaston would atleast practice with his good pal Coria.

:devil: :devil: David did it once - in Madrid - it broke my heart to watch :devil:

User id 7816
11-15-2004, 02:06 PM
I don't know about you ppl, but I'm gettin' nervooousss.... http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/rollsmile.gif

http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/rollsmile.gif http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/rollsmile.gif http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/froehlich/rollsmile.gif

Choupi
11-15-2004, 03:13 PM
Everything's quiet for the moment.... :yawn: :angel:

But I know how I'm working and believe me, in a few hours time it's gonna be

:bounce: :clap2: :yippee: :banana: :crazy: :woohoo: :banghead: :worship:

It's coming!!!!!!! The crazy attitude is back!!!!! Be careful!!!!! ;)

User id 7816
11-15-2004, 04:46 PM
:lol: thank god Im not working now :lol: ;)

Vale
11-15-2004, 05:22 PM
Does anybody feel ill like me?????????

User id 7816
11-15-2004, 05:49 PM
ill??......I feeel TENSE!!!!!!

aiwen_mei
11-16-2004, 12:50 AM
I'm so happy for Gaston. He made several amazing shots, played well especially in the second set. :dance:

I wish there was the third set. GG lost coz Federer is too good to beat.

Vamos Gaston!

Adri
11-16-2004, 01:23 AM
Haham I was anxous too... I had classes just before the match and then after the match, but I couldn't watch it live because of that stupid rain :rain:... I had to leave for class before they re-started the match [and it was raining cats and dogs here as well!]. So I left it recording to see it later... Yeah I'm upset but I think he played good [except the 1st set... he threw those games away] and it was a great match to watch, great points! :yeah: Looking forward to the next match...

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 01:23 AM
Gaston gave Rogi a hard time in the 2nd set, as he does... he looked particularly nervous at the beginning -- too bad he had to lose, but maybe he can beat Hewitt?? I hope so... VAMOS, GASTON, you lost to the #1 player, mi Rogi, but, there's no shame in that!

Gaston looked calmer and took his time in the 2nd whereas Rogi seemed visibly bothered -- making many UEs...

When they both play well, it is a match of beautiful strokes... you know, the more I see Hewitt and Roddick play, the more bored I get... you just don't get inventive, creative and artistic tennis from those guys, not the way you do w GG and RF [and MS too!].

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 01:25 AM
Well what I can I say about this match, except that considering that Roger hasn't played for a while and Gaston hasn't had much tennis it was quite a good match.
Gaston in the 1st set looked very overawed and was nervous and made too many errors and can't do that against the player who is clearly the best in the world.

The second set was very entertaining and I am happy that Gaston showed courage in fighting off all those break points, and there was some very nice moments in the match, in the first set when Gaston hit the passing shot, and Federer makes the volley, Gaston hits a good lob and then Federer hits the smash with the frame and it ends up being a back spinning winner and then when they crossed at the change of ends, they hit hands in a friendly gesture.

He has got the hardest match out of the way, he just needs to return better and cut down on the errors and he can win a match for sure. Hats off to Roger, he continues his undefeated record and will only improve from here and Gaston can build on that second set performance.

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 02:45 AM
hi George! I shall try to contribute to that GG thread but I'm catching up w stuff now that I'm back fr vac [have a few things to tell you too!]

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 02:57 AM
hi George! I shall try to contribute to that GG thread but I'm catching up w stuff now that I'm back fr vac [have a few things to tell you too!]

Thanks and I will answer you in the chat thread.

Adri
11-16-2004, 02:57 AM
Hehe, I drew this on one of my textbooks while I was at that boring class today and missing the match and didn't know what was going on. That class has got nothing to do with my career [Modern Lannguages] but I need to take it because it's mandatory for everyone. Anyway, it says "Come on Gastón, beat Federer" in Spanish and there's also a little cat sitting on a racquet and a tennis ball somewhere...

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 03:01 AM
Hehehe, cool drawing Adri.

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 03:11 AM
okey dokey, George!

*Ljubica*
11-16-2004, 06:24 AM
Well what I can I say about this match, except that considering that Roger hasn't played for a while and Gaston hasn't had much tennis it was quite a good match.
Gaston in the 1st set looked very overawed and was nervous and made too many errors and can't do that against the player who is clearly the best in the world.

The second set was very entertaining and I am happy that Gaston showed courage in fighting off all those break points, and there was some very nice moments in the match, in the first set when Gaston hit the passing shot, and Federer makes the volley, Gaston hits a good lob and then Federer hits the smash with the frame and it ends up being a back spinning winner and then when they crossed at the change of ends, they hit hands in a friendly gesture.

He has got the hardest match out of the way, he just needs to return better and cut down on the errors and he can win a match for sure. Hats off to Roger, he continues his undefeated record and will only improve from here and Gaston can build on that second set performance.

Thanks for the report GWH. I only saw the first two games, because Eurosport :devil: :devil: decided not to show it when it resumed live after the rain delay - it was evidently too late by that time and messed up their schedules too much :devil: :devil: I was really annoyed because following live scoring isn't the same, and although I followed the first set I was just too tired by then and had to go to bed - can't be asleep for my very exciting day at work today can I? Anyway - seems like Gaston played very well in the second set and was perhaps just over-awed in the first set. Roger is a great player - the best in the world at the moment - it is no disgrace to lose to him - especially to take a set to a tie-break.

Action Jackson
11-16-2004, 06:29 AM
Thanks for the report GWH. I only saw the first two games, because Eurosport :devil: :devil: decided not to show it when it resumed live after the rain delay - it was evidently too late by that time and messed up their schedules too much :devil: :devil: I was really annoyed because following live scoring isn't the same, and although I followed the first set I was just too tired by then and had to go to bed - can't be asleep for my very exciting day at work today can I? Anyway - seems like Gaston played very well in the second set and was perhaps just over-awed in the first set. Roger is a great player - the best in the world at the moment - it is no disgrace to lose to him - especially to take a set to a tie-break.

Sjengster had commented about the great Eurosport coverage, then again I had to put up with Simon Reed and Jason Goodall (the guy can pronounce Båstad correctly :) ) , which is much better than the American commentators except fro maybe Jimmy Arias.

Yes, he played quite well in the second set, especially when he was down in the break points and they weren't great conditions. I think Gaston can play with these guys and not be too passive, but he made some silly errors as well, though he made Rogi work for it in the 2nd set and showed he is not a joke, then again we knew that.

Federer is all class in everything he does, some of the volleys and his backhand was working very well, but I am proud that Gaston didn't give in at all.

Choupi
11-16-2004, 07:45 AM
I've seen the 2nd set live and I'm really proud of what Gaston's accomplished.
He's managed to trouble Federer till the end, pushed him to the tie break. Always with his back to the wall on his serve he always fought like a lion to come back and let Federer no chance to convert all his break balls. :worship:
Yes, I'm proud and I'm confident for the next matches. He's shown he can play against those top players. I'm looking forward to wednesday! :p

Adri, nice drawings!

And Vale and Alma, you were not the only ones to be ill coz of tension! I knew I could not watch the beginning of the match coz coverage was not scheduled that way so I needed to do sthg to help me from going and see the live scores. As I wanted to watch the rest of the match without knowing it. So I've chatted for a quite long time with Ataxie (she was mad too!) just to try to forget about it. Great match and great chat! :wavey:

joeb_uk
11-16-2004, 12:24 PM
goodall was the mc at eastbournes wta tournament, he also does some football coverage on sky sports

Adri
11-16-2004, 12:28 PM
in the first set when Gaston hit the passing shot, and Federer makes the volley, Gaston hits a good lob and then Federer hits the smash with the frame and it ends up being a back spinning winner and then when they crossed at the change of ends, they hit hands in a friendly gesture.

I noticed that, it was very nice! :cool: And I agree with the rest of your report, GWH :)

*Ljubica*
11-16-2004, 12:59 PM
By the way Adri - forgot to mention it before - I love your drawing :)

nenadeSergio
11-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Adri, I love the drawing!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

Unfortunately because of the rain I couldnīt see the match. I saw only the short part before it stars raining. But I was lucky to set my VCR for night coz they broadcasted it then when Hewitt and Moya couldnīt play coz of the rain aswell. So now Iīm running home to see it.

Pity Gaston didnīt win the second set, he was so close (according to the teletext results I was checking constantly) but well, Roger (by the way, finally he cut his hair!!!) is number 1 so....

Vale
11-16-2004, 04:14 PM
Choupi, I remembered your kitten/lion picture during the match yesterday. He started like the kitten, but became the lion in the second set.
Long life to the lion!!!! :wavey:

Choupi
11-16-2004, 05:25 PM
Yes Vale!

Do you understand now why I wrote that he had fought like a lion?.....
I only saw the 2nd set so I didn't see the kitten! :eek:
I knew my pic would be some kind of sign!!!!!!! Just hope that from now on he will leave the kitten out of the court!!!!!!!!! :angel:

User id 7816
11-16-2004, 07:16 PM
Guys!

I dont know what happened to me but I was all nerves when the match was starting...It was so unlucky with the rain,I was home and when ES stopped the live coverage I had no idea what was happening coz I dont have net there.Then when Hewitt-Moya was supposed to start, they showed the standings in the group,and I see Fed won 2 to 0, and the games 12-7..I thought ok, 63 64, thats normal. Then they started the recording of the match and I see Fed goin 4-1 then 5-1 then 6-1!!!!...I was shocked!...lol....instead of 13-7 they wrote 12-7 and it totally messed me up, gosh it was not good to my heart http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/janein/758.gif

Anyway, Roger played great,and yeah I guess Gaston was kinda overwhelmed in the 1st set as expected, but he managed to show his game in the 2nd and he fought, and came really close!...Roger is just amazing though. I'm sure Gaston will take this as a very good step for the next 2 matches. Really nice gesture between both of them on the change events!...

I just know one thing - GASTON CAN BEAT HEWITT, AND HE CAN BEAT MOYA.
If he plays like in the 2nd set yesterday, he can surely do it. He wants to win a match, why not win 2????
He just has to believe in himself!!!!...

p.s Adri, liked your pic, I also done that sometimes during lectures, haha;)

VAMOS GATO! :bounce:

RogiFan88
11-16-2004, 09:45 PM
Gaston, when you meet Lleyton, just beat him, por favor... as for Carlos, I think Gaston will win that one... pobre de Charly, he will be the sacrifical lamb but DC Final is more important for him to win.

User id 7816
11-16-2004, 11:52 PM
Yeah I suppose you're right RogiFan. Roger will beat Hewitt there's no doubt on that, but Gato also has to beat Carlos who had a much tougher match today and Gato had 1 day off unlike him. Then Gato will be able to fight with Hewitt for the 2nd place and he has a great chance. He just has to focus tomorrow. I just HOPE there will be no rain again.

Adri
11-17-2004, 12:02 AM
Thanks guys for the comments on my drawing :hug: :)

Fedex
11-17-2004, 02:58 AM
I just want to say, that I'm really proud of the way Gaston played yesterday, giving him a tough match, and forcing Federer to play great tennis, and if he plays like he did in the 2nd set of his match with Roger, I think he has an excellent chance of winning a set, or even a match. :) I would be ecstatic if he did that. :)

Fedex
11-17-2004, 03:02 AM
Well what I can I say about this match, except that considering that Roger hasn't played for a while and Gaston hasn't had much tennis it was quite a good match.
Gaston in the 1st set looked very overawed and was nervous and made too many errors and can't do that against the player who is clearly the best in the world.

The second set was very entertaining and I am happy that Gaston showed courage in fighting off all those break points, and there was some very nice moments in the match, in the first set when Gaston hit the passing shot, and Federer makes the volley, Gaston hits a good lob and then Federer hits the smash with the frame and it ends up being a back spinning winner and then when they crossed at the change of ends, they hit hands in a friendly gesture.

He has got the hardest match out of the way, he just needs to return better and cut down on the errors and he can win a match for sure. Hats off to Roger, he continues his undefeated record and will only improve from here and Gaston can build on that second set performance.
Yes, it was a great match, and there were some fantastic rallies, especially the backhand rallies. :)

*Ljubica*
11-17-2004, 06:25 AM
I just want to say, that I'm really proud of the way Gaston played yesterday, giving him a tough match, and forcing Federer to play great tennis, and if he plays like he did in the 2nd set of his match with Roger, I think he has an excellent chance of winning a set, or even a match. :) I would be ecstatic if he did that. :)

Thanks Fedex - hope there's no rain tonight so us poor British Gaston fans can actually see him play live this time!

Fedex
11-17-2004, 06:27 AM
I get to see him live too. :) I imagine the Hewitt Federer match will be taped, but oh well. We all know the winner of that match, anyway.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 06:28 AM
Thanks Fedex - hope there's no rain tonight so us poor British Gastion fans can actually see him play live this time!

:wavey:

Good for me that Gaston is playing first and I see the Americans really gave him no crowd support, but that's not surprising is it.

I hope Moya's mind is on other things the big prize the Davis Cup, so Gaston can sneak a win, but I hope Gaston isn't too passive.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 06:29 AM
Oh, and bad news Rosie. The Duck prevailed over Henman. But, alas, do not worry. He will get his dose of Federer soon enough.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 06:30 AM
Imagine the next time Roddick beats Federer, could you imagine the Ducks saying that this is the second coming of Woodduck.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 06:31 AM
:wavey:

Good for me that Gaston is playing first and I see the Americans really gave him no crowd support, but that's not surprising is it.

I hope Moya's mind is on other things the big prize the Davis Cup, so Gaston can sneak a win, but I hope Gaston isn't too passive.
Its good that he gets to play Moya next. I think his chances are pretty good in that one. Anyone know the head 2 head record, not like it makes a difference. (Henman lead Roddick 3-1 going into this match, and still lost)

Fedex
11-17-2004, 06:32 AM
Imagine the next time Roddick beats Federer, could you imagine the Ducks saying that this is the second coming of Woodduck.
That is, if there's a next time. I hope there isn't, but I suppose every 10-15 matches against the Duck, he'll throw in a total crap match like Montreal 03. ;) :p

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 06:33 AM
Moya vs Gaudio 2-2

The only time they have played on a hardcourt it was indoors in Madrid and it went to the 3 sets and Gaudio was serving for the match and choked sadly.

They know each other and Moya will have to serve well, but if he wants to hit off-forehands all day, then Gaudio can lap that up.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 06:34 AM
That is, if there's a next time. I hope there isn't, but I suppose every 10-15 matches against the Duck, he'll throw in a total crap match like Montreal 03. ;) :p

Stupid thing is that Federer should have never lost that match at all, but I am so happy that Gaston is playing and as long as he doesn't disgrace himself then that's all I can ask for.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 06:35 AM
Hopefully Gaston will attack Moya's backhand with his crosscourt backhand, and not give Moya the oppurtunity to blast forehands all day. I wouldn't mind seeing Moya win this match, he's another favourite of mine, but I want to see Gaston win a match. :)

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 06:38 AM
Gaudio really should change the height of his shots some flatter and others with more topspin and if his backhand up the line is working then Gaston could prosper.

The last time they played Gaudio only made 6 unforced errors in 2 sets of tennis, but he really needs to be that good again, but get the balance right between attack and defense.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 07:34 AM
Imaginative questions.

Q. How do you feel?

GAUDIO: Well, I'm happy to be here. I'm going to try to enjoy all the whole week. I hope to win a match and get into the second round.

But I'm happy to be here, yeah.

Q. What do you think about the Red Group?

GAUDIO: Yeah, the group is tough, but I think that we are playing the best players in the circuit, in the tour. For sure we are going to find a tough group anywhere, doesn't matter if you're playing in the Blue one, the Red one. It's all the same; they're all great players.

Q. Is the court slow?

GAUDIO: Yeah, was okay. For me, it's better. But for me, it was okay, yeah. It's all right.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 07:36 AM
This what Roger had to say about Gaston's chances.

Q. How do you see Gaudio's game? Do you think he has chances?

FEDERER: Yeah, I definitely think he's got a chance, you know. He beat Hewitt at the French Open . Obviously, it's clay, but, still, I think he's got a chance against him.

Carlos is also coming back from injury, so I think definitely Gaston still has a chance to beat them both actually.

Fedex
11-17-2004, 07:48 AM
Imaginative questions.

Q. How do you feel?

GAUDIO: Well, I'm happy to be here. I'm going to try to enjoy all the whole week. I hope to win a match and get into the second round.

But I'm happy to be here, yeah.

Q. What do you think about the Red Group?

GAUDIO: Yeah, the group is tough, but I think that we are playing the best players in the circuit, in the tour. For sure we are going to find a tough group anywhere, doesn't matter if you're playing in the Blue one, the Red one. It's all the same; they're all great players.

Q. Is the court slow?

GAUDIO: Yeah, was okay. For me, it's better. But for me, it was okay, yeah. It's all right.
:lol: I've read those already from the TMC website, and they could use a few more, and much better and colorful questioning than that load of garbage. But alas, you can expect simplistic questions, from moronic simpletons :)

Fedex
11-17-2004, 07:54 AM
Good to see that Roger at least has some sense, and knows that Gaston has a chance. The media sure likes to praise Federer, yet they themselves cant take after his example of class and common sense.

Action Jackson
11-17-2004, 08:04 AM
Good to see that Roger at least has some sense, and knows that Gaston has a chance. The media sure likes to praise Federer, yet they themselves cant take after his example of class and common sense.

This is so true and I have just ripped this clown on the Safin-Coria thread on GM, if you want a laugh go ahead and read it.

lsy
11-17-2004, 01:37 PM
Stupid thing is that Federer should have never lost that match at all, but I am so happy that Gaston is playing and as long as he doesn't disgrace himself then that's all I can ask for.

oh that Montreal match is like million years ago now, just like that DC Hewitt match ;)

I don't think Gaudio had disgraced himself at all so far. Yes that first set went past rather quickly but he picked it up in the second set and some of those shots with the angles he created was amazing, I think the crowd did appreciate his performance. I was all behind Rogi, that's for sure but I was actually glad to see Gaudio saving those breakpoints in second set, once it was from 0-40 down. Great match and some of the rallies were just really fun to watch.

I'm so hoping he's going to beat both Moya and Hewitt, really really hope so.

Here's what Rogi had to say about Gaudio's bh and how true that is ;)

Q. What do you say about Gaston's backhand down the line? Did he surprise you with those winners today?

FEDERER: Well, he hit much more against me in Hamburg , you know. So I knew that he's got one of the best backhand down the lines.

No, so I'm not surprised on that side.

User id 7816
11-17-2004, 01:37 PM
So nice to know that Fed actually sees chances for Gaston and he's hardly saying it just out of good manner, but I'm sure out of sense, as you say. :)

Moya running around his backhand to hit the in-to-out forehand but Gaston with his marvellous backhand returns it down the line to the empty court, just imagine - beauty:D

I think Gato will be much more secure of himself today than the 1st match, he knows what he is upto. Hope there will be no rain stopping it, so that it doesnt spoil the rythm of the match, it would be a huge shame:(...Does anyone know whats the forecast for tonight?....

Well today is such an important day for Gaston. BELIEF and WILL is what he'll need, and he can do it. All of our http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/liebe/coeuranime.gif will be with him.


P.S http://www.kurts-smilies.de/gg.gif

Adri
11-17-2004, 09:34 PM
:crying2: Booooo... stupid rain.... Forecast: unfortunately more rain (even some tornado warnings!) :rain: I hope it stops for a while at least so they can play...

Choupi
11-18-2004, 01:33 AM
:fiery: :shout: BOOOOOOOOOOOOO :mad:

I'm on the edge of committing some unforgiveable act.
I've just woke up on purpose in the middle of the night :zzz: to have a chance to see his match cancelled first coz of rain whereas it was scheduled for once live! And what have I learned? still raining with big risk that they might be obliged to play 2 matches on the same day! If I had those stupid organizers in front of me I would :armed:

Right now that's how I'm feeling

:mad: :fiery: :banghead: :shout: :boxing:

I HATE BEING AWAKEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!
Sorry about that but I had to let it all out! ;)

RogiFan88
11-18-2004, 04:24 AM
Pobre de Gaston lost... he was not a happy camper, don't blame him. Hope he can beat Lleyton and win a match.

Lee
11-18-2004, 04:33 AM
I watched the 2nd set. Gaudio played good but Moya played better, and better than vs Hewitt. It started to drizzle at the end of the match and both players had dangerous slip and when Gaudio was broken at 4-4 and Moya was serving for the matched. Being the great sportsman, Gaudio didn't try to stop the match but continued. It was really scarely watching the way he slipped and slided. And of course, he could hardly run down any ball.

Adri
11-18-2004, 04:33 AM
:crying2:

RogiFan88
11-18-2004, 05:34 AM
Aww... that was not a good idea to let them play when it was wet... so dangerous! Carlos s have beaten Lleyton...

WyveN
11-18-2004, 05:55 AM
Match was so much closer then the score line indicates but to his credit Moya really raised his game when he needed to, the forehand-backhand battle was very entertaining.

*Ljubica*
11-18-2004, 06:39 AM
Thanks for the reports guys. I didn't manage to stay up - so I've only just got up and caught up with the scores. Tough one Gaston - good luck against Hewitt. Got to rush off to work now :wavey:

lsy
11-18-2004, 07:12 AM
Match was so much closer then the score line indicates but to his credit Moya really raised his game when he needed to, the forehand-backhand battle was very entertaining.

I agree. I thought Gaudio started off the match really solid but he just missed those many bp chances he had, what a pity.

Hopefully he can beat Hewitt but Hewitt is serving very strong here, might be tough.

COME ON GAUDIO!

nenadeSergio
11-18-2004, 07:43 AM
It was a bad luck, very bad luck....and with the rain. I donīt think they should have let them play. But thatīs just it - they didnīt want to be "in delay" again so they forced all to play. Well, I donīt think that playing in Houston on a court that canīt be closed is a good idea. :confused:

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:12 AM
It was a bad luck, very bad luck....and with the rain. I donīt think they should have let them play. But thatīs just it - they didnīt want to be "in delay" again so they forced all to play. Well, I donīt think that playing in Houston on a court that canīt be closed is a good idea. :confused:

It's not good to make excuses, the conditions were the same for both players.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 09:21 AM
Well this wasn't a bad claycourt match on the hardcourts, both of them looked like they didn't want to be there moreso Carlos than Gaston after waiting around on site
for so long to play.

It was an enjoyable match considering the conditions, and there was very good use of the dropshot by both players. The battle between Moya's forehand and Gaston's backhand was intriguing.

Gaston had his chances, but if you don't convert them, you don't deserve to win and credit to Moya for lifting his game in the big moments. The thing was Moya had less break point chances than Gaudio but the conversion rate was so much better Moya was 3/5 on break points and Gaudio was 1/8.

The last turning point for me was at 3-3 in the second set and it was 0-15 on Moya's serve. Gaston has Moya on the defensive and Moya hits a running forehand and Gaston was all over the net to cover it, and gets a netcord and what becomes 15-15 in reality should have been 0-30.

The mishit return at 30-40 which led to the last break of serve for Moya summed up, the frustration for Gaston. It was a good fight, but the right man won today.

Though at the end of the match when it was raining, both players decided to play on, even though they were both slipping everywhere, which was a very good gesture of sportsmanship, though probably not the brightest.

I hope Gaston can play in the last match, as he was holding his leg as if there might be something wrong with it.

lsy
11-18-2004, 10:03 AM
I didn't notice the leg? I hope it's nothing? I still hope he will come out and give Hewitt a good match, or better still beat him :)

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:08 AM
I didn't notice the leg? I hope it's nothing? I still hope he will come out and give Hewitt a good match, or better still beat him :)

I don't care I just want him to win a set, but today he didn't convert the chances and that's why he got beaten.

lsy
11-18-2004, 10:16 AM
I don't care I just want him to win a set, but today he didn't convert the chances and that's why he got beaten.

How do you think he will do vs Hewitt here? Based on their respective form so far?

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:24 AM
How do you think he will do vs Hewitt here? Based on their respective form so far?

If he serves at least 60% and doesn't make as many stupid errors, then he has a chance and that clown hitchhiker is at it again on GM. :)

lsy
11-18-2004, 10:35 AM
If he serves at least 60% and doesn't make as many stupid errors, then he has a chance and that clown hitchhiker is at it again on GM. :)

Yeah but hewitt is really serving great past 2 matches, might be tough for Gaudio.

He's wears that clown suit perfectly well though honestly hardly that entertaining anymore.

WyveN
11-18-2004, 10:41 AM
Gaudio has a chance against Hewitt but as usual the big questions about Gaudio are mental and I am not sure how confident he will be after a tough loss against Moya.

Hopefully he still realises he has a chance to qualify but he does need to beat Hewitt in 2 sets for that to happen.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:43 AM
Yeah but hewitt is really serving great past 2 matches, might be tough for Gaudio.

He's wears that clown suit perfectly well though honestly hardly that entertaining anymore.

Gaudio's strength is that he can run for a long time and when he is on fire he is very hard to attack because of the length of his shots. He can trouble Hewitt with high backhands, but he has to serve well and it will be tough. I just hope plays, though if Caņas does then I won't be that disappointed.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:44 AM
WyveN, what did you think of the Moya match and my analysis? He needs a bit of luck as well, as he hasn't been getting the netcords going his way in this tournament so far, lol.

lsy
11-18-2004, 10:45 AM
Hopefully he still realises he has a chance to qualify but he does need to beat Hewitt in 2 sets for that to happen.

You're right, he still can qualify, I almost didn't realise that.

I wish he has that in mind, that means Rogi absolutely needs to beat Moya tomorrow, I'm sure he will and won't slow down only coz he already qualified.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 10:48 AM
You're right, he still can qualify, I almost didn't realise that.

I wish he has that in mind, that means Rogi absolutely needs to beat Moya tomorrow, I'm sure he will and won't slow down only coz he already qualified.

I don't see Rogi losing to Moya for some reason, though strange things have happened. Gaston is lucky I am not there, I would be having words with him, not abusive ones, just a few things. At times he has been too passive and that is very hard to do when on hardcourts, even ones this slow.

WyveN
11-18-2004, 11:17 AM
WyveN, what did you think of the Moya match and my analysis? He needs a bit of luck as well, as he hasn't been getting the netcords going his way in this tournament so far, lol.

I totally agree with that let cord point that meant 15-15 instead of 0-30.

Moya was beginning to look shaky but that point seemed to shift things back Carlos's way. As well as the beginning of the match, Gaudio was playing so well hitting the ball sweetly of both sides but when he failed to capitalise the opportunities eventually he started making more and more UE.

I was a bit surprised Gaudio showed so much emotion and smashed/threw his rackets. Haven't seen it all that often from him and it didn't really help his game.

Choupi
11-18-2004, 12:32 PM
I'm not so surprised! about the shattered racket I mean!

It must have been so frustrating to wait in the lockerrooms for 8 hours with only activity watching the rain pouring down. And losing in those conditions is much more frustrating I think. Coz he really wanted to show he could do sthg good and had to wait for so long to do so! I can perfectly understand the racket episode. Too much frustration accumulated.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 01:04 PM
I totally agree with that let cord point that meant 15-15 instead of 0-30.

Moya was beginning to look shaky but that point seemed to shift things back Carlos's way. As well as the beginning of the match, Gaudio was playing so well hitting the ball sweetly of both sides but when he failed to capitalise the opportunities eventually he started making more and more UE.

I was a bit surprised Gaudio showed so much emotion and smashed/threw his rackets. Haven't seen it all that often from him and it didn't really help his game.

Gaston was very frustrated for sure, a combination of his inability to convert on all of his break point chances, also Moya managed to get a lot of big serves in at these moments.

Yes, I know he talks to himself a lot and that is not surprising, but that was a major racquet smash and he even got a couple of bad calls as well, but as I said previously he has to take these chances, it's just the glimpses are only glimpses and not consistent enough, which is irritating in its own way.

User id 7816
11-18-2004, 02:17 PM
never saw the match, it looks like some of it has been played in hell, but anyway , one knows its hard matches in normal conditions, what is left for conditions like those, where u go out, play ONE POINT, and the play is suspended because the rain starts, how wonderful indeed.

im sure gaston played as good as he could in all the mess, and its good they were still able to have good ralleys, and sad to know he didn't use his b/p chances. I really hope he didn't hurt his leg and will be able to play!..
of course I don't expect him to beat or even win a set off Hewitt, not because he can't but because I'm afraid the motivation is different,and so is the belief.

I hope he'll take this a good experience. I'm awaiting the first round of the DC which surely he'll be in, and hopefully he can make this dream come true next year.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 02:24 PM
We''ll find out soon enough about whether he can play or not. I would like him to play and to win, but if he is not fit enough, then he shouldn't play.

User id 7816
11-18-2004, 02:51 PM
Hopefully he still realises he has a chance to qualify but he does need to beat Hewitt in 2 sets for that to happen.

yes if he magically becomes Moya's twin he might. otherwise the cruel mathematics say no.

whats important is he's fit and no pain.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 02:56 PM
I would love him to win a match and I just hope he can play with nothing to lose. It's great how everyone in that group respects each other. I know Roger and Gaston get along quite well, you can see that when they played, and the same goes for Carlos and he gets along with Hewitt.

RogiFan88
11-18-2004, 03:13 PM
Hopefully if Gaston can be mentally strong, his talent will prevail over the boring bashing of Lleyton... VAMOS, EL GATO!

So did Carlos look good or was it more that Gaston looked bad?

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 03:19 PM
Hopefully if Gaston can be mentally strong, his talent will prevail over the boring bashing of Lleyton... VAMOS, EL GATO!

So did Carlos look good or was it more that Gaston looked bad?

It was strange, you could tell they were pissed off at waiting around for so long, well that's the reason they finished the match when they did.

If you listen to the famous "star" this is someone who called this slow motion tennis, her view has as much value as the Russian rouble.

The match wasn't bad, it was more the battle of the forehand and the backhand. Gaston started better but he needed to break in the 1st game and had chances to do so, but failed.

Then the lucky net cord that I mentioned in the 2nd set was a major turning point, as Gaston had the impeccable length happening. It was close, but Moya played the big points better.

User id 7816
11-18-2004, 03:21 PM
well even in the best scenario for hewitt - Moya losing 0-2, hewitt will get thru only if he beats gaston, so u realise at best gaston can win a set, althought I'd really prefer to see Moya thru, but he might need to work for that himself tonight.

yes they get along quite well, and thats a great thing. it's really awful when you see disrespect between sportsmen, so its wonderful there's nothing like that there.

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 03:23 PM
Actually I don't mind a bit of disrepect now and then between sportspeople, it can add something special to the contest. Well one can see the effects of this now from the RG final.

Adri
11-18-2004, 04:16 PM
I saw the score first (accidentally) and then the match. I think it was definitely the break points chances not taken, because he had great shots and less unforced errors than Moyá. I think overall he played well given the circumstances and nopt knowing how to convert the break chances (that was the most frustrating thing). And yeah I'm worried too about his leg, and it started to hurt more when he slipped it seems... I hope he's OK. I want to see him play for the last time in this season!

Action Jackson
11-18-2004, 04:27 PM
Of course I want to see him play again, but if he can't play because of injury, then it sucks.

User id 7816
11-18-2004, 05:35 PM
If he's OK, he should go out and send Hewitt straight to the 4th place where he should be :fiery:

Fedex
11-19-2004, 01:46 AM
I saw the score first (accidentally) and then the match. I think it was definitely the break points chances not taken, because he had great shots and less unforced errors than Moyá. I think overall he played well given the circumstances and nopt knowing how to convert the break chances (that was the most frustrating thing). And yeah I'm worried too about his leg, and it started to hurt more when he slipped it seems... I hope he's OK. I want to see him play for the last time in this season!
Yes, despite the score not exactly showing it, they played a close match, yesterday. Gaston had Moya on a number of occasions yesterday, and didn't convert, and Moya came up with big serves and winners at key points. Moya just played the big points better.

Fedex
11-19-2004, 01:52 AM
It was strange, you could tell they were pissed off at waiting around for so long, well that's the reason they finished the match when they did.

If you listen to the famous "star" this is someone who called this slow motion tennis, her view has as much value as the Russian rouble.

The match wasn't bad, it was more the battle of the forehand and the backhand. Gaston started better but he needed to break in the 1st game and had chances to do so, but failed.

Then the lucky net cord that I mentioned in the 2nd set was a major turning point, as Gaston had the impeccable length happening. It was close, but Moya played the big points better.
Gaston's backhand worked pretty well yesterday, it was great early on. Then he made a few more unforced errors on that side as the match went on. But overall, he coulden't stop the Moya forehand enough to win, and his shots weren't directed to Moya's backhand enough.

RogiFan88
11-19-2004, 03:55 AM
so will Gaston beat Lleyton tomorrow? if he does, then Carlos moves up to 2nd spot... what a match betw Carlos and Rogi tonight... no I had no TV coverage, just the agony of watching the sb and comments on Eurosport... ay!

liptea
11-19-2004, 04:55 AM
Gosh, I hope Gaston wins his match tomorrow, not only because I'm a Moya fan, but because I really admire Gaudio's game. I really want him to salvage his pride, he does deserve to be there, and he should at least win one match and realize it.

Go Gaston!

Action Jackson
11-19-2004, 07:59 AM
so will Gaston beat Lleyton tomorrow? if he does, then Carlos moves up to 2nd spot... what a match betw Carlos and Rogi tonight... no I had no TV coverage, just the agony of watching the sb and comments on Eurosport... ay!

Yes, Gaston is on court first against the Potato. I hope he just comes out and thinks French Open quarter final and that result would be great as it would stop Hewitt making the semis and give Gaston a win.

He has nothing to lose and he wants to salvage some pride. I just hope he will take his place in this match.

Action Jackson
11-19-2004, 08:00 AM
Gosh, I hope Gaston wins his match tomorrow, not only because I'm a Moya fan, but because I really admire Gaudio's game. I really want him to salvage his pride, he does deserve to be there, and he should at least win one match and realize it.

Go Gaston!

:wavey: liptea

I would prefer Moya to go through than Hewitt, and I would love Gaston to win, but he will have to play better than he has and convert his break chances, plus if he wins a match it would be good for the reasons that you mention.

Action Jackson
11-19-2004, 09:22 AM
This will be a tough match for sure. I just hope Gaston will fight very hard, but be relaxed as possible, he has nothing to lose.

I hope he can remember all the matches where he has troubled Hewitt in the past, he better make plenty of returns and make the Potato attack him.

User id 7816
11-19-2004, 02:22 PM
Yes this will be the match of pride for Gaston, but he'll have to be fully commited cause for Hewitt its life or dead, so we guess how he will play.

C'mon Gaston, this match MATTERS!!!!!.........................

RogiFan88
11-19-2004, 03:12 PM
George, as much as I w like Gaston to win today, can Carlos beat Pandy? That's THE question!! I want Pandy OUT before the FINAL!

liptea
11-19-2004, 03:25 PM
:wavey: liptea

I would prefer Moya to go through than Hewitt, and I would love Gaston to win, but he will have to play better than he has and convert his break chances, plus if he wins a match it would be good for the reasons that you mention.

:wavey: Hi back! It's my first voyage into the Land of Gaudio, and I like it.

Gaudio's backhand is so pretty and pure that it makes me happy. Let's pray really hard that he wins!

liptea
11-19-2004, 03:27 PM
George, as much as I w like Gaston to win today, can Carlos beat Pandy? That's THE question!! I want Pandy OUT before the FINAL!

Moya's always come close. Last year, at this very tournament, he had triple break point in the third against Roddick and he's served for the match twice.

But then again, it's Carlos Moya...serving for the match. That mental picture is rather frightening. He's been playing better, so let's hope (providing...Gaudio pulls off a great match) that his form holds.

joeb_uk
11-19-2004, 05:06 PM
Its a shame that gaston is already out, i would have liked to see the match if gaston had a chance of going through, lets hope he is motivated enough to play as well as he can. Saying that, hewitt will really need it so it should be a good match

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 05:09 PM
:wavey: Hi back! It's my first voyage into the Land of Gaudio, and I like it.

Gaudio's backhand is so pretty and pure that it makes me happy. Let's pray really hard that he wins!

Nice to see you back in the land of Gaudio liptea :wavey: And glad you like it here - we try our best to keep this a happy, troll-free zone :)

liptea
11-19-2004, 06:11 PM
Nice to see you back in the land of Gaudio liptea :wavey: And glad you like it here - we try our best to keep this a happy, troll-free zone :)

Yo!

I've always liked Gaudio, I generally inhabit the Moya, Ferrero, Spanish Armada forums.

Troll-free zones are always good.

I'm watching Dirty Dancing and waiting for Gaston to take the court. I have -class from 1:30-3, so I won't know a lot of the match first-hand, but I'm excited anyway.

Somehow Dirty Dancing seems like a Gaston movie.

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 06:14 PM
Yo!

Somehow Dirty Dancing seems like a Gaston movie.

LOL - never thought of it like that! Well I'm just home from work - it's the week-end - YAY :banana: - so I'm just doing a few things in the house prior to sitting down and watching Gaston's match on good old Eurosport! I like Moya too btw - I think he'is a really classy guy - and very handsome too :)

sportyspice
11-19-2004, 06:17 PM
:bigclap: VAMOS !!!!!BELIEVE IT IS YOUR DAY TODAY!!!
countdown to the match....only half an hour to wait for the showdown. :)

RogiFan88
11-19-2004, 06:30 PM
yep, 20 mns to the showdown, indeed!! at least I get to see Gaston again...

Lee
11-19-2004, 08:12 PM
I'm really disappointed with Gaudio's play today. Double faults on 3 of the 4 breaks are really ugly, IMO.

Still, he didn't deserve what Mary Carillo and Pat McEnroe said.

joeb_uk
11-19-2004, 08:16 PM
its very sad to see, he plays some great points and really bossed hewitt on those FEW points, the commentators said it was federer like. But he doesnt do it consistently, which is the annoying thing (just the mental block). I wouldnt mind if he was that bad on hardcourts, but he has the potential and he shows the odd glimpses but cant put it together

boliviana
11-19-2004, 08:17 PM
Bullshit. He deserved everything they said about him. That was horrid. I would have preferred watching Federer Moya from last night.

Talk about playing out of your element! Well at least he proved conclusively that he has no class.

It was disgusting and do hope they fine him. Imagine if you'd paid to see that match. Those tickets are expensive.

And they bitch that Coria should have stayed home?

liptea
11-19-2004, 08:19 PM
Bullshit. He deserved everything they said about him. That was horrid. I would have preferred watching Federer Moya from last night.

Talk about playing out of your element! Well at least he proved conclusively that he has no class.

It was disgusting and do hope they fine him. Imagine if you'd paid to see that match. Those tickets are expensive.

And they bitch that Coria should have stayed home?

Wow. What happened?

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 08:21 PM
its very sad to see, he plays some great points and really bossed hewitt on those FEW points, the commentators said it was federer like. But he doesnt do it consistently, which is the annoying thing (just the mental block). I wouldnt mind if he was that bad on hardcourts, but he has the potential and he shows the odd glimpses but cant put it together

I agree joeb :sad: And isn't it strange that just when I said this Forum was troll free we seem to have one :devil: Still - no one can take away Gaston's great 2004 and his right to be at TMC - I am proud of him despite the bad result tonight. Vamos Gaston - rest well, enjoy the off-season, and good luck in 2005.

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 08:22 PM
Wow. What happened?

Gaston didn't play at his best liptea - he has an injured leg and wasn't moving so well - his serve was bad too. But as for Boliviana - I think she may be one of the trolls I said we never had here!

boliviana
11-19-2004, 08:24 PM
He stood there and watched the ball go one way and then the other . . . best rally was at the end of the second set . . . made hewitt hustle. Beyond that it was weird. Hewitt's drenched in sweat and Gaudio looks like he took a quick run around the block. He didn't move. I don't care for him much anyway but I had to see what people said here about him. And I think if you're fan of his, you'd have to really question why after today. You compare him to the rest of the top 15 or so and he doesn't fit in.

Lee
11-19-2004, 08:24 PM
Gaudio is a complete opposite of Hewitt. He's mentally fragile. Right from the start, his biggest weapon, backhand, was not working. His serve was terrible. And when playing against a player like Hewitt who never gives you an inch, Gaudio was totally lost on court. He did put in some effort and played some good points. That's why I said he's not tanking. Serving 3 dfs at 3 bps showed how he cracked under pressure from Hewitt.

boliviana
11-19-2004, 08:26 PM
Gaston didn't play at his best liptea - he has an injured leg and wasn't moving so well - his serve was bad too. But as for Boliviana - I think she may be one of the trolls I said we never had here!

1) I am not a troll dear so get over yourself.

2) if he was that hurt (no bandaging, no trainer called out) then he should have not played. He did nothing for anybody today. He already has a shaky reputation . . . he didn't do much to improve it.

3) it wasn't that he wasn't moving well. he wasn't moving. there's a difference.

Lee
11-19-2004, 08:27 PM
He stood there and watched the ball go one way and then the other . . . best rally was at the end of the second set . . . made hewitt hustle. Beyond that it was weird. Hewitt's drenched in sweat and Gaudio looks like he took a quick run around the block. He didn't move. I don't care for him much anyway but I had to see what people said here about him. And I think if you're fan of his, you'd have to really question why after today. You compare him to the rest of the top 15 or so and he doesn't fit in.

If you really want to understand how his fans see him, you should do a bit more reading on his threads before you jump the gun and yelling he should be fined in his forum.

*Ljubica*
11-19-2004, 08:28 PM
1) I am not a troll dear so get over yourself.

2) if he was that hurt (no bandaging, no trainer called out) then he should have not played. He did nothing for anybody today. He already has a shaky reputation . . . he didn't do much to improve it.

3) it wasn't that he wasn't moving well. he wasn't moving. there's a difference.

If you are not a troll coming in to cause trouble on a bad day for Gaudio fans - then how come we have never seen you here before? And as Lee said - you obviously haven't read many of the previous posts in this Forum - so please get over YOURSELF. :wavey:

User id 7816
11-19-2004, 09:35 PM
Ok, I really hope this all is because of some pain of Gaston that we couldn't see, to me he was moving ok although he didn't bother for some harder shots, and that's what was frustrating to me...there must be somethin more than met the eye, cause thats not a match I expected, but then he's not the guy who would start whining if there's something. I can understand his motivation might not have been great, but 62 61 is ouch. And it hurts more that he's hardly commited, when you can still see what kind of ralleys and shots he's capable of.

And oh yes, I'm eagerly waiting to see some interview of Gato.

User id 7816
11-19-2004, 10:30 PM
I forgot - did someone see the interview of Canas they showed after Gato's match?..
They asked him what is Gaudio like, and said he's a quite person and spends his time with family and friends, and that his personality is not of a typical argentine..??..I'm wondering now did he say he is or he is not a typical argentine, but as far as I heard he said not. Someone else heard?...lol

reiko
11-19-2004, 10:42 PM
According to this audio update, Gaston was
"apparently suffering with strain in groin muscle":
http://www.masters-cup.com/news/audio3.asp
(go to: Craig Gabriel: Update--Hewitt/Gaudio Match)

Alma, I saw the interview and thought Canas said that
Gaston was NOT a typical Argentine. Further, Canas mentioned
that Gaston did not change even after he won RG.

Btw, did you guys also see Gaston playing basketball,
though very briefly, on TV?

Fedex
11-19-2004, 11:14 PM
Unless Gaston was injured, this was a serious tank on his part. That was one of the most embarrassing matches all year. No effort at all from him, and if the ATP decides to give him a tanking fine, he would deserve it.

User id 7816
11-19-2004, 11:33 PM
gosh I cannot open that audio :( but hearing he really had a problem is half justifying the score I guess. I really don't think he could afford this otherwise.

yes Reiko i saw him playin basket yesterday they showed, he made one shot and he was enjoying. so u also heard the same as me from Canas, I wonder what he sees as non-typically argentinian about Gato, certainly not the hairstyle;)

Choupi
11-20-2004, 12:03 AM
Bullshit. He deserved everything they said about him. That was horrid. I would have preferred watching Federer Moya from last night.

Talk about playing out of your element! Well at least he proved conclusively that he has no class.

It was disgusting and do hope they fine him. Imagine if you'd paid to see that match. Those tickets are expensive.

And they bitch that Coria should have stayed home?

Dear Boliviana I'm not used to get into those kinds of consideration but you're forcing me to react.

Just one question. Have you read the entire title of this forum? It's written "for fans of Gaston". I'm a fan of his as everybody here has already noticed but I seriously doubt you are on your place here considering the title of the forum.
If you wanna let out all your bad feelings on Gaston just create a new forum for this and leave the real fans together here!

User id 7816
11-20-2004, 01:46 AM
Choupi I'm afraid that even a tree would have more sensitivity to what you, Rosie and the rest here are saying, than this person.

boliviana
11-20-2004, 01:50 AM
I probably shouldn't have written what I wrote in this forum but I was really angry about the match. It was such a poor display of sportsmanship. It wasn't fair to anybody - least of all Moya. Hewitt deserved better. The fans out there deserved better. He was granted an honor because of what he'd accomplished in May. And he pissed it away. If you have any feelings for the game itself, you feel anger for what he did. It was really bad. Not a little bad, really awful.

User id 7816
11-20-2004, 02:01 AM
...and whatever relatively fair reason there might be, the crap will always keep coming back.

liptea
11-20-2004, 02:02 AM
I probably shouldn't have written what I wrote in this forum but I was really angry about the match. It was such a poor display of sportsmanship. It wasn't fair to anybody - least of all Moya. Hewitt deserved better. The fans out there deserved better. He was granted an honor because of what he'd accomplished in May. And he pissed it away. If you have any feelings for the game itself, you feel anger for what he did. It was really bad. Not a little bad, really awful.

I highly doubt that whether Hewitt went on or whether Moya went on mattered to Gaudio.

I still do believe that he did his best, but the amount of pressure on him would have been incredible. People already believe that he doesn't deserve his GS title and his ranking is a fluke, if he went 0-3, they'd justhave more ammo against the poor guy. Problem is that we don't know what Gaudio was thinking, and we can shout our opinions until we're sick, we just don't know,

It seems to me that if we let Gaudio play in a secluded forest with no one watching him and no one commenting about him, he would an amazing tennis player,

boliviana
11-20-2004, 02:08 AM
I
It seems to me that if we let Gaudio play in a secluded forest with no one watching him and no one commenting about him, he would an amazing tennis player,


Wouldn't they all . . . the way they handle pressure is what separates the men from the boys (not to be sexist). No one has suffered more from freaking out than Coria. But the difference there is that Coria never stops fighting. I'll give you Gaudio in the French - he earned it. He played an amazing tournament. I would have liked to have seen Coria win the French because I felt he'd won the clay court season, but it wasn't meant to be this year. If Gaudio is meant to be more, then he will do what he must to pull himself together for next season.

User id 7816
11-20-2004, 02:18 AM
If there is his interview from today on the official site, can someone please post it cause I can't open the site and I'd love to know what he thinks and we would all love.

boliviana
11-20-2004, 02:30 AM
here is his interview . . .


An Interview with Gaston Gaudio
November 19, 2004


Q. Could you just talk about the match and the flow of things. It seemed like it was tough to get into things for a while.

GASTON GAUDIO: Yeah, of course, I was like a little bit disappointed, thinking I don't have any chance to get into the semis.

So I couldn't give my best, and I really leave this tournament a little bit disappointed, yeah.

Q. Physically, how are you, and kind of what do you do from now in preparation for the start of next season?

GASTON GAUDIO: Yeah, it was okay. It's good maybe to play against these great players. And maybe for the next year, it's going to give me a little bit of more confidence so when I play against them, I know that I can.

So hope to play a little bit better in the future.

Q. Could you look back at this Masters Cup . Is it big experience for you?

GASTON GAUDIO: Yeah, of course it was. It was a great experience. The first time that I'm here in a tournament like this, sure, it's like -- it was great. It was pretty good.

Adri
11-20-2004, 02:50 AM
I will say I'm disappointed about his performance today, yes I am, and it did make me question myself why I keep being his fan. But the main reason is that I know what he's capable of doing, I have seen it, we all have seen it, us the fans. I think we all agree it's hard to follow him because things like today's match happen, but we still keep supporting him. :) I read he said he lacked motivation for he had no chance of getting to the semis, and on the other hand Hewitt was extra-motivated to win because of that depended his spot in the semis. We know how his psicological part affects him on the way he plays; sometimes he's able to ignore that and sometimes he's not. That's just him.

Anyway, sorry if what I wrote doesn't mak much sense but I'm having a strong headache now :smash:

User id 7816
11-20-2004, 02:53 AM
Wouldn't they all . . . the way they handle pressure is what separates the men from the boys (not to be sexist). No one has suffered more from freaking out than Coria. But the difference there is that Coria never stops fighting. I'll give you Gaudio in the French - he earned it. He played an amazing tournament. I would have liked to have seen Coria win the French because I felt he'd won the clay court season, but it wasn't meant to be this year. If Gaudio is meant to be more, then he will do what he must to pull himself together for next season.

now that's a bit more sensible post. I agree with you on the fact that one should never stop fighting. sometimes the unwillingness for a fight makes me mad too, whoever is doing it. I wish gaston had the never-say-die personality, but he's not exactly this, and one has to accept that people are different. Gaudio played in a very different, positive and I think much more confident than usually frame of mind at the RG, and when he was able to do that the whole world saw what he's actually capable of. If he was like that most of the time, I'm sure he can achieve many more great things, and I believe that he will.

WyveN
11-20-2004, 03:00 AM
That was a disapointing performance, we all know Gaston can do much better especially after seeing him against Moya and Federer but Gaudio wasn't really interested in the match and maybe he was bothered by injury but I think he should have let Canas play the match in that case as he would at least fight until the last ball.

RogiFan88
11-20-2004, 03:09 AM
I didn't know Gaston was injured... perhaps he s not have played his match v. Hewitt... but Hewitt did defend him when pointedly asked if Gaston tanked... he said no... thanks, Lleyton, for being a good guy! Too bad... I was hoping for a somewhat competitive match, like the 2nd set he played v. Rogi... hope he rests up and is ready and fit for 2005! Still, I don't mind looking at him...

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 04:10 AM
I will address some of the stuff that was posted earlier later on, but I definitely have my own views on what went on.

To those who think he went out and tanked, it's obvious you have never seen the US Open match where he lost to Gambill 6-0, 6-2, 6-0.

Back to the main topic, yes I knew he had an injury problem before the match, as he had problems at the end of the Moya match and if anyone goes back and reads my posts I have stated that clearly. However this being the case, he decided to take the risk and play the match, and for that he has to take the consequences of his decision.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Caņas should have played, as he would have been able to perform better given the particular circumstances, but in reality there was a major difference between Hewitt and Gaudio today. Hewitt needed to win this match, and this showed, whereas Gaudio didn't have anything to play for and that clearly showed.

Fedex
11-20-2004, 04:19 AM
Geez losing to Gamble that badly must be a horrible tank. He should of never played this match, to save himself the humiliation and also keep the winning record he had against Hewitt going into the match.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 04:20 AM
Wouldn't they all . . . the way they handle pressure is what separates the men from the boys (not to be sexist). No one has suffered more from freaking out than Coria. But the difference there is that Coria never stops fighting. I'll give you Gaudio in the French - he earned it. He played an amazing tournament. I would have liked to have seen Coria win the French because I felt he'd won the clay court season, but it wasn't meant to be this year. If Gaudio is meant to be more, then he will do what he must to pull himself together for next season.

As for winning the clay season, there is only one event that counts and players have to peak for that event, so no Coria didn't deserve to win the French Open and the reasons have been stated too many times why.

Of course when a player is out on court they should do everything they can to fight like Caņas or Muster, but sadly not every player is in that league and that is not one of Gaston's greatest qualities, it seems he has to put his mind to it and in this particular circumstances, instead of going out, having fun and playing freely, he played worse than he had in the previous two matches.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 07:08 AM
I probably shouldn't have written what I wrote in this forum but I was really angry about the match. It was such a poor display of sportsmanship. It wasn't fair to anybody - least of all Moya. Hewitt deserved better. The fans out there deserved better. He was granted an honor because of what he'd accomplished in May. And he pissed it away. If you have any feelings for the game itself, you feel anger for what he did. It was really bad. Not a little bad, really awful.

Welcome Coria fan, and I don't go around to the Coria forum and start crap. If I want to say something about him I will do it in the GM section and not in Coria's forum.

lsy
11-20-2004, 07:37 AM
Of course when a player is out on court they should do everything they can to fight like Caņas or Muster, but sadly not every player is in that league and that is not one of Gaston's greatest qualities, it seems he has to put his mind to it and in this particular circumstances, instead of going out, having fun and playing freely, he played worse than he had in the previous two matches.

I think so.

I thought in this circumstance, he would have played better, just go out and have fun, enjoy his tennis but I guess he didn't and that's disappointing to watch especially after his previous 2 rather good performances.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 07:44 AM
I think so.

I thought in this circumstance, he would have played better, just go out and have fun, enjoy his tennis but I guess he didn't and that's disappointing to watch especially after his previous 2 rather good performances.

Did I watch all of the match? Yes, I did as you have to deal with the good and the bad, and this was not the worst I have seen either.

Certain situations effect people differently and in this case it was negatively for Gaston. The sad thing there were some very good points among all the shit.

Personally I think he shouldn't have played, but he did and that defeat is something that he has to live with.

The other performances were quite good, then again I get to see him in Jan, so I can't complain.

lsy
11-20-2004, 08:07 AM
Did I watch all of the match? Yes, I did as you have to deal with the good and the bad, and this was not the worst I have seen either.

I did too and to be worse, it's 3 in the morning ;)


Certain situations effect people differently and in this case it was negatively for Gaston. The sad thing there were some very good points among all the shit.

Very true and he actually had a chance to break hewitt right from the beginning, just like vs Moya as well but then everything went away after that.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 08:11 AM
I did too and to be worse, it's 3 in the morning ;)

Part of the fun.

Very true and he actually had a chance to break hewitt right from the beginning, just like vs Moya as well but then everything went away after that.

I do know what I am talking about when I watch Gaudio or any other matches.

GM is getting silly again our friend has got onto the fact that Roger will allegedly play in Houston in the future. Then there was the Coria fan that needed some facts thrown back in their faces.

What a great day.

Fedex
11-20-2004, 08:22 AM
Federer play in Houston? You mean the clay tournement? Oh, that would be a disgrace, not to mention very easy for him to win.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 08:24 AM
Federer play in Houston? You mean the clay tournement? Oh, that would be a disgrace, not to mention very easy for him to win.

Yes, that was allegedly said. Considering he is playing Monte Carlo, there would be no way unless he got 20 million appearance fee he would play.

If Gaston played in the Houston clay tournament, then I would lose a lot of respect as well.

Btw, the ATP game needs your points and committments soon. :)

lsy
11-20-2004, 08:36 AM
GM is getting silly again our friend has got onto the fact that Roger will allegedly play in Houston in the future. Then there was the Coria fan that needed some facts thrown back in their faces.

What a great day.

I did read somewhere he mentioned the facilities were good, they had improved and maybe one day he will. Sound more like the "polite" call to me than anything. Damn Rogi needs to be more aggressive sometimes, the way he "sucked up" his frustrations after a ridiculous treatment from that idiot Jim last year did have me :fiery: I understand his nature of disliking confrontations (I don't too) but I wish he could have shown some frustrations in his speech, instead he's just "nice" as usual :rolleyes: Then again, he showed it by win it all, guess it's most effective.

Just imagine how boring your day will be without them.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 08:39 AM
He or Gaston would be stupid to play in Houston or the clay championships. Why? Because there are much better playing standards in Europe during the claycourt season, if they played there, then I would for sure look at them as if they were taking the money and an easy title.

There is no point flying there and back just for one tournament and once the season starts in Europe they should stay here.

Gaston is good enough, not to play in Houston and that's the same for Rogi.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 08:40 AM
Just imagine how boring your day will be without them.

It's a welcome distraction and some people don't like being proven wrong. :)

lsy
11-20-2004, 08:46 AM
Imagine that day when Rogi or Gaudio turn up in Houston, then the "haters" can no longer laugh at Andy playing mickey mouse clay events :lol: :tape: I can't think of one valid reason why either of them will be there honestly, and i don't think they will unless for money like you said :tape:

I had no problem being distracted for another 2 days before back to normal life without tennis next week.

Action Jackson
11-20-2004, 08:50 AM
Imagine that day when Rogi or Gaudio turn up in Houston, then the "haters" can no longer laugh at Andy playing mickey mouse clay events :lol: :tape: I can't think of one valid reason why either of them will be there honestly, and i don't think they will unless for money like you said :tape:

I had no problem being distracted for another 2 days before back to normal life without tennis next week.

Andy, clay and mickey mouse together in the same sentence. There isn't anyway they will go there again to play unless it's Davis Cup or massive amounts of money.

As for being distracted, well I have the ATP game to run so that will keep me occupied, having to update the MTF awards, then laugh at the Davis Cup.

WyveN
11-20-2004, 09:03 AM
Roger did mention in the press conference that he might come back to Houston but I really dont think he will.

lsy
11-20-2004, 09:28 AM
yes, wyven you're right, I think he mentioned that in one of the pc.

GWH, you need to bump that award thread considering the big comeback of one of our favourite troll :lol: I try to understand that atp game rules, but seems complicated :o

I won't get DC final on tv, what a shame :(

Choupi
11-20-2004, 12:56 PM
Wouldn't they all . . . the way they handle pressure is what separates the men from the boys (not to be sexist). .

Sometimes the pressure doesn't come from where you expect it to! Everybody talks about the pressure of the event, I mean the tournament. But Gaston has had other kind of pressure so far, from a personal point of view, which I think might explain that the will to fight till the end may have deserted him against Hewitt. We don't know what has really happened on his mind. And of course we're all bitter about what and how it happened. Of course I felt angry yesterday against him :mad: coz I told myself that it was not that way we were gonna shut up all those who thought he didn't deserve his place in the TMC. But that's just the way the guy is! though it hurts sometimes, I accept him so!!!!! ;) And more, I appreciate him all the more coz it shows once again that he's human! so fallible! :D :p Just hope that all this is gonna help him grow stronger for the years to come.

aiwen_mei
11-20-2004, 02:08 PM
But that's just the way the guy is! though it hurts sometimes, I accept him so!!!!! ;) And more, I appreciate him all the more coz it shows once again that he's human! so fallible! :D :p Just hope that all this is gonna help him grow stronger for the years to come.

I totally agree with you! I feel sad for Gaston that he could not play well against Hewitt but I do believe that he did all he could eventhough it did not work.

Despite losing the match, he was so kind to give his autograph to the kids while walking off the court. How wonderful he is! :hearts:

aiwen_mei
11-20-2004, 02:18 PM
More pics from the last match in TMC.

boliviana
11-20-2004, 08:46 PM
Welcome Coria fan, and I don't go around to the Coria forum and start crap. If I want to say something about him I will do it in the GM section and not in Coria's forum.

For the record, I apologized if I was out of line . . . and I was really clear about why I was upset. It wasn't a personal attack on him but I really wanted to see what a fan of his would say after yesterday's match. I was really pissed. I was completely straight about it. Then I posted Gaudio's interview because someone couldn't open it on the Master's Cup site . . . to be nice. So maybe you can go scold someone else, okay?

Choupi
11-20-2004, 08:54 PM
Then I posted Gaudio's interview because someone couldn't open it on the Master's Cup site . . . to be nice.

Yes you did and yes it was nice so thank you for doing it. :D But don't forget that you've come here among Gaston's fans in saying very bad things, though they were true in a way. It's not what you said, it's how you said it that bothered. Well at least it was the case for me. ;)

User id 7816
11-20-2004, 11:35 PM
I can understand his last match was rather disappointing to most people who expect competitive matches at the MC, regardlessly of whether a player is fighting for the semi or has nothing to fight. I think part of the problem was that Gaston had expected lots from the match with Moya, expected to win it and then surely fight for the semi, and it must have been too disappointing for him.
I'm sure he did not go out thinking of such a scoreline. When the match finished, for a few mins I also felt deeply embarassed with what happened, but then I just realised that with him it's always more complicated than it seems.
He did move, if he didn't he wouldn't have created those few wonderful ralleys, but he didn't try to run down a few more difficult balls, and even the comentators said a few times that it's probably due to his strained muscle. It's just you can't be so harsh and say he pissed it away, he has no classand so on. This is in no way true. One thing he has to work is to try and stay positive even when points are not going his way, just try and be positive because otherwise he can be self-destructive.

If you want to know why I'll never stop supporting him - first of all, because he's a great person. Secondly, because he's full of emotions, all the emotions one can imagine and you can often see that on the court. I can never get bored watching him. Sometimes he makes you feel kinda masochistic, like the other day, it's still a part of it.
Then comes the tennis.I don't need to describe it, its there for all to see.
I guess that's basically it.

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 01:21 AM
For the record, I apologized if I was out of line . . . and I was really clear about why I was upset. It wasn't a personal attack on him but I really wanted to see what a fan of his would say after yesterday's match. I was really pissed. I was completely straight about it. Then I posted Gaudio's interview because someone couldn't open it on the Master's Cup site . . . to be nice. So maybe you can go scold someone else, okay?

Like I was thrilled about that Gaudio's performance, like anyone of his fans were happy about that Hewitt performance.

Ok, here is a scenario did I or any of the Gaudio fans go into the Coria forum after the French Open final and have a go at Coria for cramping or the pain he went through on losing that final.

I am always straight about things and this doesn't mean you deserve an award for it and that is vice-versa.

Anyway, if you want a debate, bring it on anytime and anywhere.

Lee
11-21-2004, 02:48 AM
For the record, I apologized if I was out of line . . . and I was really clear about why I was upset. It wasn't a personal attack on him but I really wanted to see what a fan of his would say after yesterday's match. I was really pissed. I was completely straight about it. Then I posted Gaudio's interview because someone couldn't open it on the Master's Cup site . . . to be nice. So maybe you can go scold someone else, okay?

Like I was thrilled about that Gaudio's performance, like anyone of his fans were happy about that Hewitt performance.

Ok, here is a scenario did I or any of the Gaudio fans go into the Coria forum after the French Open final and have a go at Coria for cramping or the pain he went through on losing that final.

I am always straight about things and this doesn't mean you deserve an award for it and that is vice-versa.

Anyway, if you want a debate, bring it on anytime and anywhere.

How about everyone just move on? I'm not telling anybody here what to do. Just a suggestion. :o

Action Jackson
11-21-2004, 02:55 AM
How about everyone just move on? I'm not telling anybody here what to do. Just a suggestion. :o

There is a difference between discussion and starting shit, and these needed to be addressed.

tommy_girl
11-21-2004, 07:57 AM
.....But that's just the way the guy is! though it hurts sometimes, I accept him so!!!!! ;) And more, I appreciate him all the more coz it shows once again that he's human! so fallible! :D :p Just hope that all this is gonna help him grow stronger for the years to come.

i agree with you choupi.. being a fan although it hurts sometimes, you've come to accept the person as a package, his triumphs and his defeats. and that's why we're here, to support him all the way.. to give the courage to move on.. this year he's achieved so much, so lets just hope that next year would be a good one also for him.. ;)