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Roger won't participate in Davis Cup 1st round

Dana
11-03-2004, 02:41 PM
That's confirmed... Roger won't play the 1st Davis Cup round against The Netherlands, as reported in Le Matin (Sorry, in French but we'll have soon I think info in English about that...
http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nwmatinnewsdetail.html?newsaction=detailcateg&idnews=ats.ch%3A20041103%3Abrg505&newscateg=2&newssubcateg=0&newsnb=

jtipson
11-03-2004, 04:51 PM
Thanks Dana :)

So, basically he is focusing on staying number one. He won't play the first round (it will be indoors straight after several large outdoor tournaments), but will be there (whether he can play or not) for the second tie, be it the quarter-final or the play-off.

lsy
11-03-2004, 05:01 PM
This decision gave me the impression that finally Rogi realise at this moment, he and his "team" basically has no chance to win DC, they can try their best to make it to QF, SF but they will not win the Cup.

Not going to be a popular decision but probably sensible one. Certainly show his determination to retain his form next year.

Might be better for his team mates too, never thought the Swiss DC team was very healthy anyway, for both Rogi and his team mates. Wonder what Marc Rosset (the real one not the one in MTF though i like to hear what he has to say too ;) ) and his teams mates has to say about this?

speedracer
11-03-2004, 05:09 PM
Good. He learns how to say "no". Swiss press most likely will send him to hell, but he has to be selfish to stay number1.

hemagirl
11-03-2004, 07:37 PM
mmm im very happy that Roger did not play!! sorry for swiss fans and fans of him. I'm dutch and now they have a great chance to win of the swiss!! I hope they can win then we have the chance to see the dutch team play in holland against Spain I think. Thats a long time ago :D

mitalidas
11-03-2004, 07:46 PM
i'm so glad he does this. as much as i respect DC, the tour obviously does not --no points, fitted in between tight schedules, affects your body, mind, scheduling, and tennis for the rest of the year.

I don't think the swiss press will take it to him --they are so protective of him (they hated Hingis)

Fergie
11-03-2004, 11:50 PM
Good decision Roger, you need to center in your career ;)

lunahielo
11-04-2004, 01:31 AM
From speedracer~
he has to be selfish to stay number1.
I don't think it's selfish. I think it's sensible. :)

Marc Rosset is Tall
11-04-2004, 01:38 AM
I wrote this GM, so I will write it here as well.

It's clear that Federer has not turned his back on Switzerland forever when it comes to Davis Cup, he is only missing the first tie and will be playing in the QF or relegation tie to get them back in the World Group. It's obvious that the change in scheduling was the main reason for this decision.

It's not like Federer, is like Sampras who whined about Davis Cup and wanted it played every 2 years and there isn't a problem these days with the top players participating in the event.

I don't know Wilander got a place in history and he was everything but selfish and still holds records today and didn't have a problem playing Davis Cup.

Yes, there is an overcrowded calendar, but at the same time these players need to manage it well. DC is only a few weeks a year, and if it's going to effect them so badly, then why fly all the way from the other side of the world to play an optional, it's the guarantee.

mita have you ever been to a Davis Cup tie personally? Actually it wouldn't be ideal for two reasons they have tournaments already with high points and that hasn't stopped players withdrawing from these events.

The second what points are you going to put on something that doesn't have a value as it's intangible. It's not about the points, it's not about just playing for yourself, playing within a team environment and if there were points, then there would be situation that they would be only turning up for the points and not totally concentrated on playing for their country, which is something that doesn't have a monetary price on.

The Olympics in tennis lack credibility, whereas the DC doesn't and unlike the Olympics has been a constant feature in the tennis calendar for years.

Billabong
11-04-2004, 02:56 AM
Thanks guys!

Daniel
11-04-2004, 08:16 AM
like most of you guys i think it the best decision atm. Roger :hug:

Puschkin
11-04-2004, 09:37 AM
Although it may be difficult to swallow, in particular for fans ( and probably more for the media) in Switzerland, I do admire him for this decision, which certainly was not an easy one. It proves, however, that Roger does not shy way from setting clear priorities and this is also a quality of a real champion.

WyveN
11-04-2004, 11:10 AM
It's clear that Federer has not turned his back on Switzerland forever when it comes to Davis Cup, he is only missing the first tie and will be playing in the QF or relegation tie to get them back in the World Group. It's obvious that the change in scheduling was the main reason for this decision.


I am not sure he will be back in the short term, doesn't make much sense to skip a winnable Switzerland tie on a favourable surface with no slam in site only to then play who knows where in the middle of the year.



there isn't a problem these days with the top players participating in the event.


Obviously there is.
A lot of people will be disapointed by his decision, a very difficult decision for Roger but perhaps the correct one.

tschaeggy
11-04-2004, 11:32 AM
Good decision, Roger! Must be very hard to decide against the Daviscup, first round! It needs a lot of courage to say no!! Roger has learnt of his injury, listens now on his body!
for those who understand german, i post the article from the newspaper basel: "baz", sorry that i cannot translate it :shrug: it's too difficult for me!
Federer verzichtet auf Daviscup gegen Holland


Roger Federer. Foto Keystone


Basel/Oberwil. Si/baz. Roger Federer will 2005 unbedingt die Nummer 1 im Ranking bleiben. Diesem Ziel ordnet er die ganze Planung unter. Aus diesem Grund verzichtet der vierfache Sieger von Grand-Slam-Turnieren auch auf die Davis-Cup-Startpartie gegen Holland (4. bis 6. März).

«Das Hauptziel ist klar: Ich will die Nummer 1 bleiben», sagte Federer in Basel vor einigen Schweizer Medien. «Das steht über allem.» Um die Position, die er in diesem Jahr am Australian Open durch den Halbfinalsieg gegen Juan Carlos Ferrero erlangte und seither scheinbar mühelos verteidigt, zu behalten, hat er bis Ende Juni zwölf Turniere im Programm. Er beginnt die Saison in Doha und spielt dann (nach dem Exhibition-Turnier in Kooyong) das Australian Open. Die weiteren Stationen sind Rotterdam, Dubai, Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, Monte Carlo, Rom, Hamburg, Roland Garros, Halle und Wimbledon.

Die zweite Saisonhälfte steht erst in den Grundzügen fest. Neben den Masters-Series-Turnieren (Montreal, Cincinnati, Madrid und Paris-Bercy sowie hoffentlich dem Masters in Shanghai) und dem US Open ist bislang erst Basel sicher. Noch nicht klar ist, ob Federer seinen Titel in Gstaad verteidigen wird: «Ich habe die Organisatoren gefragt, ob ich mich kurzfristig entscheiden kann. Sie sind einverstanden. Wir werden im Frühling sehen.»

Übrige Turniere nicht nur Beigemüse

Viele Spieler sehen im Rankingthron einen Bonus, der sich mit starken Leistungen bei den wichtigen Turnieren automatisch ergibt. Nicht so Federer, der natürlich die Major-Turniere auch weiter gewinnen will. Die anderen Turniere bezeichnet er aber nicht einfach als «Beigemüse»: «Natürlich werde ich alles daran setzen, meine grossen Titel zu verteidigen, und werde auch meine Planung darauf ausrichten. Ich finde es aber falsch, wenn alles an den Grand Slams gemessen wird, denn dann wäre ja die Bedeutung der anderen Turniere gleich null.»

Die Verletzungen in den letzten Wochen und der damit verbundene Verzicht auf die Turniere in Madrid, Basel und Paris-Bercy brachten den zehnfachen Turniersieger des Jahres, der 75 Einzel absolviert hat, zum Umdisponieren punkto Davis Cup: «Ich habe den Preis für meine vielen Spiele bezahlen müssen. Aber es war nicht möglich, ein solches Jahr zu planen. Wir mussten sehr viel improvisieren und anstatt Aufbau zu betreiben, musste ich Ferien machen, um mich zu erholen.»

Zusätzlich ins Gewicht fällt, dass der Davis Cup 2005 einen Monat später als üblich beginnt und damit für Federer in eine Zeit fällt, in der er viele Turniere bestreiten will. Deshalb verzichtet er schweren Herzens auf die Partie gegen Holland, die er unmittelbar in die Phase nach Dubai und vor Indian Wells und Key Biscayne hätte zwängen müssen: «Das war ein happiger Entscheid für mich, da ich den Davis Cup sehr gerne spiele und auch, weil wir zuhause antreten. Er hat mich in den letzten Jahren aber auch sehr viel Energie gekostet», so Federer, der für 2005 bei den Masters-Series grosses Potenzial ortet - nicht zuletzt deshalb, weil er heuer drei «Nuller» verzeichnete. Für die weiteren Runden will er die Situation nach dem ersten Spiel analysieren. Eines ist aber fast hundertprozentig klar: «Wenn wir das Abstiegsspiel bestreiten müssten, wäre ich sehr wahrscheinlich dabei.»
Hoffen auf zweite Garde

Ohne Federer ist die Schweiz natürlich um einiges schwächer als mit ihm. Seit seiner Premiere in Neuenburg gegen Italien im März 1999 war er in 13 Partien stets dabei und bildete in den letzten Jahren praktisch ein «Einmann-Team». Federer gewann 14 seiner 15 letzten Davis-Cup-Einzel und rettete Swiss Tennis damit jeweils nicht nur die Weltgruppen-Zugehörigkeit, sondern liess die Fans sogar vom Erreichen ganz hoher Ziele träumen. Nun hofft Federer, der Captain Marc Rosset und die Teamkollegen persönlich informiert hat, dass die zweite Garde aus dem Schatten tritt: «Einzelne waren überrascht und auch etwas enttäuscht, aber sie verstehen meinen Entscheid. Ich denke aber, dass das für meine Kollegen auch eine Chance sein kann.»

Ähnlich sieht es auch Teammanager Daniel Monnin: «Es ist für jedes Team ein Verlust, die Nummer 1 zu verlieren, noch mehr natürlich, wenn es sich um die Nummer 1 der Welt handelt. Man muss den Entscheid aber akzeptieren. Ich sehe es ebenfalls als Chance für das Team.» Die Partie gegen die Holländer, bei denen Martin Verkerk verletzungsbedingt fehlen wird, wird wahrscheinlich im Forum von Fribourg stattfinden, das von der Kapazität her einen Rahmen zwischen 4500 und 7000 Zuschauern bietet.

Konditionstrainer Pierre Paganini, der ab 2005 noch intensiver mit Federer zusammenarbeiten wird und ihn auch beim ersten Aufbaublock begleitet, lobt ihn für diesen Schritt: «Ich kann ihm zu diesem mutigen Entscheid nur gratulieren. Vor allem deshalb, weil ich weiss, wie sehr er diesen Wettbewerb liebt.» Auch der andere wichtige Eckpfeiler für den physischen Bereich, Physiotherapeut Pavel Kovac, bleibt 2005 beim Team.

Vermehrter Einsatz für die Stiftung

Federer geht heuer neue Wege. Er wird bereits in der zweiten Dezember-Hälfte in Australien mit dem Aufbau beginnen; es ist möglich, dass er dort wie unlängst in Dubai mit Tony Roche trainiert, der aber für eine längerfristige Trainertätigkeit nicht in Frage kommt. Anschliessend fliegt der Baselbieter nach Katar, wo er ab 3. Januar in Doha spielt. Ein zweiter Vorbereitungsblock steht vor Beginn der Sandsaison im Programm.

Federer reist am Donnerstag nach New York, wo er am Freitag bei den Vereinten Nationen zusammen mit Generalsekretär Kofi Annan und Adolf Ogi das UNO-Jahr des Sports lancieren wird. Am Sonntag oder Montag fliegt er nach Houston, wo ihm vor Beginn des Masters noch eine Woche Trainingszeit auf dem Platz bleibt. Federer befindet sich weiterhin in täglicher Therapie und hat erst leichtere Konditionseinheiten hinter sich, hat aber am Montag bei einer MRI-Untersuchung sehr positive Resultate erzielt: «Ich bin sehr optimistisch. Es wäre eine Überraschung, wenn ich in Houston nicht spielen könnte.»

Federer will sich 2005 zudem vermehrt um seine Stiftung kümmern, die sich zum Ziel gesetzt hat, mittellosen Kindern in Südafrika zu helfen und den Jugendsport zu fördern. Ein Benefiz-Anlass anlässlich der Davidoff Swiss Indoors generierte 110'000 Franken und animiert ihn nun dazu, bereits im ersten Quartal 2005 nach Südafrika zu reisen und einen Augenschein zu nehmen.

Puschkin
11-04-2004, 01:05 PM
I'll translate the direct quotes from Roger. The translation might not always sound elegant, but I tried to stick a close as possible to the German original.

About his decision not to play DC: The main objective is clear. I want to stay number 1. This is most important (literally: above all).

Gstaad: I asked the organisers If I could decide on a short notice. They agreed. We'll see in spring.

Other tourneys: of course, I will do everything to defend my big titles and I'll do my planning accordingly. I think it is wrong to measure everthing along the grand slams as this would imply that the other tourneys were of no meaning at all.

Injury: I had to pay the price for my many matches. But it was impossible to plan a year like this one. We had to improvise a lot and instead of doing a build-up I had to go on holiday to rest.

DC again: It was a tough decision as I like to play DC and also because we play at home. But DC costed me a lot of enegy in the past years, If we had to play the rlegation round I would very likely take part.

Houston: I am very optimistic. It would be a surprise if I could not play Houston.

lsy
11-04-2004, 03:30 PM
Thanks for the article and translation.

Rogi probably feels like most of us (well me at least) here, on one hand thinks is a sensible decision, and then next minute can't help feeling might be a let down to his team mates and home fans. Not playing this home tie certainly is going to make him look kind of "selfish" but did seem like was spurred on the bad timing (why did they change the dates?) and also his recent injuries (or maybe just finally convinced he and "the team" just won't win this cup at this moment)

Having said that, I think he will play the next tie, be it the play off to stay in world group or if miracles exists...the QF. Didn't seem like he's about to "abandon" DC in all.

I'm really curious how does his team mates feel about this?

lsy
11-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Just wondering, how come there's no one word mentioning about his new coach in this press conference?

Dana
11-04-2004, 03:39 PM
I'm really curious how does his team mates feel about this?
You have some comments from Rosset, Allegro, Paganini and Chiudinelli in Le Matin (In French - sorry, I don't have time for the moment to translate it nor give a little summary...). But everybody agrees and undertands Roger's decision. And of course, Roger talked to them before making that decision.

http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nwmatinheadsport/sport_divers/041104_-_reactions.html

Dana
11-04-2004, 03:43 PM
Having said that, I think he will play the next tie, be it the play off to stay in world group or if miracles exists...the QF. Didn't seem like he's about to "abandon" DC in all.
Yep, Roger made it very clear! In an interview give in French given to Roger Jaunin.... http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nwmatinheadsport/sport_divers/_je_ne_renie_rien.html

He just skips a turn, that's it! He doesn't quit Davis Cup! And if it turns that other players are doing so well, Roger even offers to come back as a sparring partner! :)

jtipson
11-04-2004, 03:48 PM
Just wondering, how come there's no one word mentioning about his new coach in this press conference?

There was some mention of it in some articles I think, but only as far as saying that Roger would be going to practice in Australia in December, and at least one report said that would possibly be to train with Tony. There was no official coach announcement that I know of.

lsy
11-04-2004, 03:52 PM
Thank you so much, Dana!

That's comforting to hear. I didn't think he will quit alltogether as well :)

I just read some pretty harsh comments left in his site so just want to know how does his team mates and Marc think about that, if they can understand , at least show Roger had communicated his decision well.

lsy
11-04-2004, 04:17 PM
There was some mention of it in some articles I think, but only as far as saying that Roger would be going to practice in Australia in December, and at least one report said that would possibly be to train with Tony. There was no official coach announcement that I know of.

Once again, thanks. I didn't know he will be going to practice in Australia in December :)

I feel much better reading Marc and his team mates comments, they all seem very supportive and actually see this as positive. That's really great, who knows it might actually turns out to be healthier and we can finally see how other Swiss players step up on court :yeah:

Action Jackson
11-05-2004, 01:50 AM
I am not sure he will be back in the short term, doesn't make much sense to skip a winnable Switzerland tie on a favourable surface with no slam in site only to then play who knows where in the middle of the year.

Same, but I will take his word for it when he said he would be available for either a QF or a relegation play off tie. So I am not convinced as of yet, whether he has totally given up on DC.

I remember one occasion when Muster did the same thing for Austria, that there were a few ties where he wouldn't play, but he ended up coming back into the fold and played in a team where they could always have WG status, but never win the thing.

Obviously there is.
A lot of people will be disapointed by his decision, a very difficult decision for Roger but perhaps the correct one.

Roger has been playing for Switzerland for a while, but there haven't been any of the other top players pull out of their DC ties, and the ones that have it's been more of an injury problem e.g Nalbandian and Coria, but the other top players have played it recently, then again their teams usually have better chances of winning.

For some reason they have been stupid and decided to change the schedule by making it later in the year and closer to Indian Wells, which is moronic.

lsy
11-05-2004, 08:59 AM
I don't get the DC format but of course I don't know much of its history and such. In badminton, they have Thomas/Uber Cup, held every 2 years, played with 3 singles (no players can play repeat matches) and 2 doubles. No countries without decent share of good players will be deluded to think they can win the cup (rightfully so, after all it's a team event).

DC format does seem to make it possible an individual can win it all. Of course fair enough, the Swiss hasn't managed to so far but will be a fat lie if we say we didn't sort of "expect" and hope Rogi and his "team" can ;) (thanks to the format). I will be surprise if at the back of Rogi's mind, he's not thinking the same all these while.

If the Swiss actually manage to win the Cup with their current "team", words can't describe how happy I would be but I will be seriously doubting the meaning of this "team" event.

WyveN
11-05-2004, 09:53 AM
If the Swiss actually manage to win the Cup with their current "team", words can't describe how happy I would be but I will be seriously doubting the meaning of this "team" event.

I agree, would love to see Switzerland win DC but it would raise questions if they did it all thanks to 1 player.

Switzerland can still beat Netherlands without Roger and as others have mentioned perhaps the extra responsibility on Heuberger, Wawrinka and Kratochvil will make them raise their game.

lsy
11-06-2004, 11:30 AM
Switzerland can still beat Netherlands without Roger and as others have mentioned perhaps the extra responsibility on Heuberger, Wawrinka and Kratochvil will make them raise their game.

Like how WyveN?? :unsure:

I only remembered those stats you threw to us when we were cheering for the Swiss early in the year vs France :scared: Have there been any improvement since then?

But I'm glad his team mates actually took this positively, perharps it really is better for them too. I really really hope they will put up a good fight vs the Netherlands.

Nymeria
11-06-2004, 01:04 PM
It'll be an intresting match vs. the Netherlands. No Roger for Switserland, but no Verkerk for Holland.
Actually I don't mind anymore who'll win. I would cheer for Switserland because of Roger, but now Roger isn't playing I could cheer for my own country. So let the best team win.

WyveN
11-06-2004, 01:06 PM
Like how WyveN?? :unsure:

I only remembered those stats you threw to us when we were cheering for the Swiss early in the year vs France :scared: Have there been any improvement since then?


Netherlands are weaker then France. Schalken, Verkerk and Sluiter are playing terribly. Also their best doubles player retired.

They might play better because they cant rely on Roger, I remember Heuberger virtually tanked the first rubber against France

Fedex
11-06-2004, 01:07 PM
I think this is a wise decsion on Roger's part. He need not spend the energy on something, where he has a slim chance of winning. Lets say Switzerland somehow gets through the 1st rd, would Roger skip the DC QF too??

Fedex
11-06-2004, 01:11 PM
Netherlands are weaker then France. Schalken, Verkerk and Sluiter are playing terribly. Also their best doubles player retired.

They might play better because they cant rely on Roger, I remember Heuberger virtually tanked the first rubber against France
I would'nt count on it, though. That team of Schalken, Verkerk and Sluiter are certainly capable of playing great, and that team would have an advantage over a Roger-less swiss team, player wise. I still hope Switzerland can win DC, but it looks highly unlikely.