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Jiri Novak def Nalbandian 5-7 6-3 6-4 1-6 6-2 to become Basel champion

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-31-2004, 04:37 PM
A very good match by both of them, but Jiri was too good and congratulations on winning Basel.

An all-round good guy and a very fair player.

Bilbo
10-31-2004, 04:40 PM
Jiri :yeah:

I never thought he would win that match in the middle of the 2nd set

Deboogle!.
10-31-2004, 04:40 PM
Very disappointing at the end from David. Too bad a good match had to end on a sour note with practically getting booed off court. I really thought he was going to finally take the title.

Aleksa's Laydee
10-31-2004, 04:41 PM
Basel Champ :D JIRI :woohoo:

Rostov61
10-31-2004, 04:42 PM
Well done Jiri!

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-31-2004, 04:43 PM
I am a Nalbandian fan, but he got told that if he didn't hurry up he'd get warned and that's what happened and deserved as well.

It was a high standard match, but Novak won the points that counted and David fought very hard, but it wasn't good enough.

Ballbuster
10-31-2004, 04:46 PM
now lose in Paris so tim gets to the masters.

ataptc
10-31-2004, 04:46 PM
wow a 5 setter! sounds like the match was really of high quality! I'd better tape the delayed ( :rolleyes: yet again) telecast!! :D

Anyways Jiri won! :dance:

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-31-2004, 04:47 PM
ata, you should tape this match it was worth watching.

Bibir
10-31-2004, 04:48 PM
Very disappointing at the end from David. Too bad a good match had to end on a sour note with practically getting booed off court.

I didn't see the match...What happened?? :confused:

Congrats Jiri! :D

ataptc
10-31-2004, 04:48 PM
okays I will! :cool:

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-31-2004, 04:49 PM
I didn't see the match...What happened?? :confused:

Layhani warned him for taking too much time and said if you don't quicken up he'll give him a point penalty for slow play.

David tried him and it was 0-15 before he served, then he deliberately mishit a ball in the next point and the crowd got on his case a bit.

Neely
10-31-2004, 04:50 PM
Nalbandian has had great weeks now with good results. Well, he fell short in this one, but Novak really played a good match and David didn't have enough to come through in the fifth set.

As for Novak... yes Mark, he is a very good and likeable guy. And one of the most inconspicuous as well.

If you told me after the beginning of this season that Novak wins two singles title at the end of the year, I probably wouldn't have believed that as Novak's form wasn't too impressive back then. But with this tournament win in Tokyo and now in Basel, he really stepped it up and had a few highlights at the end.

TennisLurker
10-31-2004, 04:51 PM
David should play some mickey mouse tournaments to win finals and get confidence.

I am happy for jiri anyway.

Bibir
10-31-2004, 04:53 PM
Layhani warned him for taking too much time and said if you don't quicken up he'll give him a point penalty for slow play.

David tried him and it was 0-15 before he served, then he deliberately mishit a ball in the next point and the crowd got on his case a bit.

ouch!

It's sad because he's playing well and deserves a title! :sad:

He must be tired now.

Action Jackson
10-31-2004, 04:56 PM
Congratulations Jiri on winning his first ever indoors title and he likes playing in Switzerland, it's his 3rd title there. It's good to see him have some success and he is a very decent guy who has made the best use of his talents and he plays everywhere.

Well played David in these last 2 weeks, but Lurker might be right, he might need to do a Roddick and play some lower level events, so he can actually win a title. It was a tough fight, and he got warned by Layhani who unlike Cryst is a very fair umpire.

David had chances, but smiling Jiri wasn't giving any presents today and deserves this title.

LiZpHaIr
10-31-2004, 05:08 PM
I hate you Jiri!

you suck....suck....suck you suck......I hate Novak.......Novak is BAD!!!......stupid stupid stupid Jiri.....DAMN YOU ALL!

LiZpHaIr
10-31-2004, 05:08 PM
I HATE NALBANDIAN TOO! I ALSO HATE PEANUT BUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DIE!!!!!!!!!!

Bibir
10-31-2004, 05:12 PM
I missed something Lizphair! :confused:

ataptc
10-31-2004, 05:18 PM
:lol: now wtf was that?

Fondueischguät
10-31-2004, 05:21 PM
I missed something Lizphair! :confused:

You didn't miss anything at all.

They probably don't like Novak or Nalbandian because they have good records against Henman.

Fondueischguät
10-31-2004, 05:23 PM
:bounce: Jiri

He had a top week and had some very good wins. This match was a very good one and Nalbandian has played well these past 2 weeks, but he had his chances in the 5th, but with the injuries and even more importantly he didn't take the chances on offer and Novak stepped up and duly won the title.

LiZpHaIr
10-31-2004, 05:33 PM
You didn't miss anything at all.

They probably don't like Novak or Nalbandian because they have good records against Henman.


Yes. I especially despise Jiri for this.

RPH
10-31-2004, 05:34 PM
Another final Nalbandian fails to win :rolleyes: it getting way too predictable :yawn:

Congrats Jiri been good since the US :)

Fondueischguät
10-31-2004, 05:35 PM
Yes. I especially despise Jiri for this.

Thanks for the quick answer.

crazillo
10-31-2004, 05:38 PM
Nice win Jiri. :D

I hope he will be consistent next year again.

Havok
10-31-2004, 05:41 PM
:D Nice going Jiri, good to see him doing well after his great 02 performance.
:( David, please get over the finals hump and win a title. Must suck for this guy:sad:

MisterQ
10-31-2004, 05:43 PM
Congrats Jiri!

LiZpHaIr
10-31-2004, 05:45 PM
Thanks for the quick answer.

Welcome :wavey:

Fondueischguät
10-31-2004, 05:45 PM
At least with this loss David competed very well, which is something that he hasn't done in his recent final appearances, it was that Jiri was too good on the day.

-ernie-
10-31-2004, 05:46 PM
DAVID!! AHH!

amethyst
10-31-2004, 06:31 PM
A very entertaining match with many great rallies and delicate drop shots :worship: It´s sad it had to end with the controversy about the point penalty for Nalbandian. Such a match deserves a better ending! Congrats Jiri for a great win :bounce:

merle
10-31-2004, 06:51 PM
David, David!!!!!!! :rolleyes: Yet another final lost! :sad: TennisLurker and GWH are right about David playing some Mickey Mouse tournaments to win some finals.

Crazy_Fool
10-31-2004, 06:55 PM
Oh Nalbandian :rolleyes:

When will he get it together in finals

Congrats to Novak :D

RonE
10-31-2004, 07:03 PM
I only saw the fifth set, but if the rest of the match was anything to go by, it was a cracker. :worship: Congrats to Jiri :yeah:- he hung tough in the fifth set and Nalbandian was the first to blink.

I do feel disappointed for Nalbandian, the nightmare losing streak in finals continue unfortunately. After he failed to convert that breakpoint he had at 2-2, he seemed to be in a state of shock and Novak had the bit between his teeth. After failing to break back at 4-2, it was pretty much a done deal with the racquet being smashed :(

Chloe le Bopper
10-31-2004, 07:47 PM
David should play some mickey mouse tournaments to win finals and get confidence.

I am happy for jiri anyway.
Probably :sad:

I'm also happy for Jiri. At least David keeps losing his finals to quality players ;)

Fergie
10-31-2004, 07:51 PM
Congrats Jiri, great week :yeah:

Also congrats David at least this time won some sets in the final :angel:

Sjengster
10-31-2004, 08:03 PM
I really didn't think Novak was going to challenge for this final because I thought Nalbandian would be a bad match-up for him, but he returned all the latter's best shots, played some good dropshots of his own and served well on big points. The point penalty was interesting, but once again the Eurosport commentators got it wrong - Lahyani gave it when they walked back for the changeovers at 2-5 because Nalbandian had smashed a second racket, not because he was taking too long to serve, but evidently neither Nalbandian or the crowd heard him the first time.

Nalbandian seems to reach a mental and physical breaking point in so many of these finals, beyond which he just can't put the effort in - he lost serve with worrying ease in the final set and though he threw his racket a lot of times in the match, there was a seeming acceptance of defeat when he got broken in that game. The scoreline as a whole was uncannily similar to Novak's win in the Gstaad final last year against Federer - something about Switzerland agrees with him, and I was suprised to hear that it was his first title indoors.

*Ljubica*
10-31-2004, 10:26 PM
I really didn't think Novak was going to challenge for this final because I thought Nalbandian would be a bad match-up for him, but he returned all the latter's best shots, played some good dropshots of his own and served well on big points. The point penalty was interesting, but once again the Eurosport commentators got it wrong - Lahyani gave it when they walked back for the changeovers at 2-5 because Nalbandian had smashed a second racket, not because he was taking too long to serve, but evidently neither Nalbandian or the crowd heard him the first time.

Nalbandian seems to reach a mental and physical breaking point in so many of these finals, beyond which he just can't put the effort in - he lost serve with worrying ease in the final set and though he threw his racket a lot of times in the match, there was a seeming acceptance of defeat when he got broken in that game. The scoreline as a whole was uncannily similar to Novak's win in the Gstaad final last year against Federer - something about Switzerland agrees with him, and I was suprised to hear that it was his first title indoors.

Yes Sjengster, you are right. The point penalty was for the broken racquet, nothing to do with wasting time - Lahyani announced it as soon as he broke the racquet, therefore before the change of ends prior to the final game. I was at the final and I didn`t here the first warning at all - as you say, none of the crowd did - neither did David. Of course, I am really sad about this result, but take nothing away from Jiri - he is a great guy and a fair player, and he deserves this title.

merle
10-31-2004, 10:37 PM
Oh Rosie, must have been really painful to watch David lose 2 finals in a row! :hug:

BTW, the Russian Eurosport commentator got the point penalty thing right immediately! :dance: Must be the long experience with Marat! ;) Actually he's a pretty good commentator, I like him!

*Ljubica*
10-31-2004, 10:41 PM
Oh Rosie, must have been really painful to watch David lose 2 finals in a row! :hug:

Yes Merle it was - especially remembering that I was there when he lost the Rome one this year as well :sad: This is the first one that actually made me cry though - pretty pathetic in front of all those people but I couldn`t help it, - I had to rush out before the presentations to compose myself. Stupid huh?

Neely
10-31-2004, 10:43 PM
Stupid huh?
No, it's not. I can imagine from my own similiar experiences how you might have felt in this situation :hug:

Rostov61
10-31-2004, 10:50 PM
Don't count him out for Paris! He will probably be tired from playing so much lately, but if he somehow plays at the same level as in Madrid, he can do well and challenge Roddick.

merle
10-31-2004, 11:08 PM
Yes Merle it was - especially remembering that I was there when he lost the Rome one this year as well :sad: This is the first one that actually made me cry though - pretty pathetic in front of all those people but I couldn`t help it, - I had to rush out before the presentations to compose myself. Stupid huh?

Awwwww baby, but I can soooooo understand you!! One more :hug: Today was especially hard indeed, I would have never thought he could lose this one too! With all respect Novak shouldn't have been THAT hard opponent but on a given day, well..... I know from experiences with Marat too well what can happen!

Billabong
11-01-2004, 12:47 AM
What a match:eek:! Congrats to Jiri:)!

PerezRoldan
11-01-2004, 03:01 AM
This was a very good match and credit to Jiri for taking his chances when they were on offer.

The thing with this final David was actually in the match, which hasn't been the case with the recent ones and he has been playing a lot lately, and he has done very well this season on such a bad preparation.

BlackSilver
11-01-2004, 03:42 AM
Nalbandian was playing on a level similar to the final on Madrid? And Jiri's game today was as good compared to his extraordinary semifinal against hewitt just a few weeks ago? :confused:

lsy
11-01-2004, 07:07 AM
:sad: :sad: David...looked really really disappointed. But was a hard fought final, only disappointment was his rather negavie body language in the last game but good match overall, crowd apparently appreciated that.

I thought David behaved so badly but after watching it myself, hardly? All he did was exchange few words with the umpire when he didn't realise he got point deducted, followed by this shot being hit high up which I couldn't tell being a mishit or deliberately. Despite losing, I thought was a great effort from him, especially coming right after Madrid final :yeah:

Novak is really pleasant, the interviewer said for the whole week they had seen his poker face but now he can put on a real smile, and Novak responded with childlike giggles, that was funny. He even mentioned he understand the crowd was disappointed Federer couldn't play but it's nice he showed up during matches and having a good time. So sweet also to see him gave his wife a big hug after winning, he said they drove 9 hours to see him in the final :)

Marc Rosset is Tall
11-01-2004, 07:52 AM
Isy, I am glad to see that you have gained some appreciation for Novak. He is a very genuine guy and makes the most of his talents.

lsy
11-01-2004, 08:15 AM
Isy, I am glad to see that you have gained some appreciation for Novak. He is a very genuine guy and makes the most of his talents.

Yes he certainly seems so and cute accent ;)

I can only form impression from matches I saw, I do like the quieter, down-to-earth and hardworking ones, of course doesn't mean quiet = down to earth = hardworking automatically ;)

He certainly seems like a genuine guy, his speech was great, save the heartbreak of watching Nalby looking so really disappointed.

Marc Rosset is Tall
11-01-2004, 08:27 AM
Yes he certainly seems so and cute accent ;)

I can only form impression from matches I saw, I do like the quieter, down-to-earth and hardworking ones, of course doesn't mean quiet = down to earth = hardworking automatically ;)

He certainly seems like a genuine guy, his speech was great, save the heartbreak of watching Nalby looking so really disappointed.

Yes, it was very disappointed that Nalle couldn't win the title after getting so close, but I am happy that Novak won as well, he is definitely one of the most underrated players on the tour.

novanora
11-01-2004, 08:33 AM
:sad: :sad: David...looked really really disappointed. But was a hard fought final, only disappointment was his rather negavie body language in the last game but good match overall, crowd apparently appreciated that.

I thought David behaved so badly but after watching it myself, hardly? All he did was exchange few words with the umpire when he didn't realise he got point deducted, followed by this shot being hit high up which I couldn't tell being a mishit or deliberately. Despite losing, I thought was a great effort from him, especially coming right after Madrid final :yeah:

Novak is really pleasant, the interviewer said for the whole week they had seen his poker face but now he can put on a real smile, and Novak responded with childlike giggles, that was funny. He even mentioned he understand the crowd was disappointed Federer couldn't play but it's nice he showed up during matches and having a good time. So sweet also to see him gave his wife a big hug after winning, he said they drove 9 hours to see him in the final :)

jiri is always a such a gentle guy :D his words for roger yesterday definitely won the swiss crowd's heart. i am happy he got his second title this year! althought he beated the one who i most don't want to be beaten :awww:

lsy, you watched this match just now on starsports? i have over-tortured it twice after the early morning one!! yeah, david's reaction to the deducted point is much better than what i thought before, especially compared to his US Open attitude this year. and i do think it's normal if someone wants to debate with the umpire when he was deducted such an important point in such an important final set. He did improved much in the final performance, maybe next time we can cheer for his breaking this damn final curse :)

lsy
11-01-2004, 08:43 AM
Yes Nov, I did catch it again coming back from lunch though bits and pieces. I felt much better after watching it. Good match and David didn't fold, he was fighting all throughout. For a guy who was considered "out of form" this whole year to have done rather consistenly well in most tournaments he entered, it's an achievement :yeah" He will win one soon, I'm sure, was close yesterday. I hope you're not too upset already?

Novak played well to win, that's for sure. He loves Switzerland, he won both Gstaad and Basel, something rogi didn't do yet ;)

Mrs. B
11-01-2004, 09:11 AM
i was treated to a good 5 setter yesterday, sat through it all but had to rush to the loo during David's time out. :lol: Great level of play from both, too bad David had mental lapses, but credit indeed to Novak, he really played well. He even acknowledged Roger's presence by applauding. (Roger sat with Mirka, Brennwald, & Hingis.)
Kudos to David for making it to the finals here 3 years in a row.

When Jiri lifted the golden trophy, i couldn't help but look at Roger at this moment, and he & Mirka were whispering... ;)

lsy, the commentator did ask Jiri if he was moving to Switzerland, but he said he'll stay in Czech. :lol:

novanora
11-01-2004, 09:30 AM
Yes Nov, I did catch it again coming back from lunch though bits and pieces. I felt much better after watching it. Good match and David didn't fold, he was fighting all throughout. For a guy who was considered "out of form" this whole year to have done rather consistenly well in most tournaments he entered, it's an achievement :yeah" He will win one soon, I'm sure, was close yesterday. I hope you're not too upset already?

Novak played well to win, that's for sure. He loves Switzerland, he won both Gstaad and Basel, something rogi didn't do yet ;)

wow!~~ that's why the reporter asked him if he will move to Switzerland in the future or not :woohoo:

yeah, first time when i watched the replay, it's really a torture, but second time, is much better. Not everyone can enter finals in a row after coming back from the injury, even some guy in the top 10. and it's really amazing, he still has the chance of houston ticket and Mac revenge after being absent of many important tourneys whatever how much slight the chance is :) this is another kind of achievement different from titles, which should also be honored.

as to his serving yesterday, it is not that crappy, right? ;) that's just what i want to see. his drops didn't work well to Jiri, the brilliant trick to massu. He did miss some break points, especially to Jiri's last two servings, which is really fatal to the final.

yeah, we are still waiting for his title, and sometimes waiting itself is a beautiful thing :) so i am not upset anymore!

lsy
11-01-2004, 09:31 AM
lsy, the commentator did ask Jiri if he was moving to Switzerland, but he said he'll stay in Czech. :lol:

:lol: yeah, he was caught a bit offguard for that, luckily the commentator moved on to say maybe should asked his wife :lol:

Hope you had a great time there, Mrs.B

novanora
11-01-2004, 09:35 AM
i was treated to a good 5 setter yesterday, sat through it all but had to rush to the loo during David's time out. :lol: Great level of play from both, too bad David had mental lapses, but credit indeed to Novak, he really played well. He even acknowledged Roger's presence by applauding. (Roger sat with Mirka, Brennwald, & Hingis.)
Kudos to David for making it to the finals here 3 years in a row.

When Jiri lifted the golden trophy, i couldn't help but look at Roger at this moment, and he & Mirka were whispering... ;)

lsy, the commentator did ask Jiri if he was moving to Switzerland, but he said he'll stay in Czech. :lol:
mmmmmmm, i guess you must have a great time there, even without the home local boy? ;)

Mrs. B
11-01-2004, 12:21 PM
it was fun watching the local boy sitting there as a spectator. ;) he was chatting with Martina & Mirka at times. he didn't applaud Nalby's shot, but he did Novak's. :lol: Nalby played so well before Roger came to watch the match. :devil:

novanora
11-01-2004, 01:38 PM
it was fun watching the local boy sitting there as a spectator. ;) he was chatting with Martina & Mirka at times. he didn't applaud Nalby's shot, but he did Novak's. :lol: Nalby played so well before Roger came to watch the match. :devil:
:fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:
Roger, i will never forget what u did yesterday!!!!! :mad:
Thanks for telling me that, Mrs. B, it really did change sth in my mind :mad:

Mrs. B
11-01-2004, 01:45 PM
LOL, nova! it's not Roger's fault. :lol: besides, he won the 4th set.

novanora
11-01-2004, 01:48 PM
but he didn't cheer for him as i wish! :mad:
4th set, maybe he is whispering with Mirka and Martina happily, and forget to curse sth, right? :(

Daniel
11-02-2004, 08:01 AM
Jiri :yeah: :D :clap2:

Alvarillo
11-02-2004, 11:19 AM
another final lost for David.....