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Lleyton's future??

The_Aussie17
06-19-2012, 02:38 PM
Obviously Hewitt has gone passed his prime and peak, and honestly even if he had injuries to come i dont think he'd retire any time soon, but say if he played on for another 3 seasons without any injuries where could Lleyton get his ranking up to?

I think its safe too say he will never return to the 10 or even top 20 but i think he can still beat plenty of players in the top 10 on his day, i think he has one more GS run in him, personally im hoping its at the Aus Open, but also could be Wimbledon, i reckon injury free he will easily return to top 75 by the end of the year!

Hewitt =Legend
06-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Honestly, I think he can make it back to the top 5 without any more injuries.

Backhand_Maestro
06-19-2012, 02:41 PM
He was past it in 2004 . .

Deathless Mortal
06-19-2012, 02:42 PM
#83 and not a place higher.

Absolute Anthropoid
06-19-2012, 02:42 PM
Well unfortunately I think Hewitt will be done very soon. Maybe this years AO was his last slam run.

leng jai
06-19-2012, 02:43 PM
He has a good lob. IMO he should employ that for every shot and carve his niche as the real GOAT moonballer.

SheepleBuster
06-19-2012, 02:53 PM
dancing with the stars

Hewitt =Legend
06-19-2012, 02:55 PM
dancing with the stars

Why yes, I'd love to see him slow dance with Nole and B-Nard.

Hypnotize
06-19-2012, 03:00 PM
Honestly, I think he can make it back to the top 5 without any more injuries.
If you are talking about the junior rankings, I think he's a little too old.

outrider
06-19-2012, 03:02 PM
Top 100 if he can play a year without a long injury time off, otherwise he will be ranked between 200 and 400 until it's over in the next 2-3 years.

Hewitt =Legend
06-19-2012, 03:03 PM
If you are talking about the junior rankings, I think he's a little too old.

Why would I be talking about the junior rankings? Although he could teach the youngsters how to correctly don the hat backwards + ponytail combination.

BroTree123
06-19-2012, 03:03 PM
One more grand slam title :rocker2:

RIboy
06-19-2012, 03:09 PM
Australia's Got Talent

yesh222
06-19-2012, 03:18 PM
Honestly, Hewitt is never injury-free now. You can even see it in the way he walks. His body has just given up. But if he could get through one entire season (8 Masters and 4 Slams) without a single injury at all, I think he could still be top 20, maybe even top 10. But his body will never last that long again.

viruzzz
06-19-2012, 05:52 PM
After this:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=203274

Comes this:
This year, he will fall into a big depression, tennis and life isn't what it was.

(Please, read the following statment with some sad music in the background)
"I used to be big, y'know?... I used to be the best. I was young, I was in love, I had everything.
But look at me now. I'm lost, hopeless, young europeans taking the lead. This isn't the world I dreamt of. This isn't what I deserve. Nobody deserves this.
Life can be a bitch sometimes, dude.
I just gave tennis a new road to follow... Some hope.
Hopes you can just dream about, but without her, I... I just can't do it anymore.
I don't want a plastic bitch, I want the girl that saved my life once, to keep dreams alive."

The world seems hopeless for Hewitt, he dissapears from the world. People start talking about retirement, one last exhibition match with Roddick and all will end quickly, no more pain.

But nobody knows where he is. Some people start to get worried. Rumors of his disappearance reached Kim's ears, and she remember that time, in the early 2000s...

"If you ever want to talk to me, I'd be in our special place".

So Kim went there, to that abandoned locker in Melbourne Park, and there he was.
An unrecognizable Lleyton, with a big hobo-beard, and 4 empty bottles of cheap booze, staring off... Into the deep void.

Kim took her hand, their eyes met again.
Lleyton thought he died and it was the last infinite dream, but not...

Life suddenly is worth living again.


That will be Lleyton's future, my friends.
I predict gold, diamonds, beeing top 10 again, finding his A-form.
But the most important thing... I predict love.

Do not say no to love.

viruzzz
06-19-2012, 09:26 PM
Now on topic (but I prefer my off-topic post).
Since when he didn't play a whole year without injuries?

I really believe he could be top 30, this AO proves it. It's difficult to win a ser over Nole and put him on the chords so many times.

COME ON! Rock it, Lleyton. QF in Wimbledon this year!

Caesar1844
06-19-2012, 10:34 PM
When he's fit and firing he still consistently makes the 3rd or 4th rounds of Slams without seeding and is a threat to anyone bar the top 4. Based on that, I'd think that after an injury-free season he'd be ranked top 40 at least.

Never going to happen though.

daddy
06-20-2012, 01:12 AM
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1829/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1829-25532.jpg

Topspindoctor
06-20-2012, 01:13 AM
To plague channel 7 with his annoying commentary.

Caesar1844
06-20-2012, 02:06 AM
I actually think he's one of the better commentators. Generally adds to what you're seeing with a player's perspective, rather than just describing it.

leng jai
06-20-2012, 02:10 AM
What has happened to John Alexander these days? I used to enjoy his commentary even though it was the same 10 lines over and over again.

Caesar1844
06-20-2012, 02:13 AM
He became a politician. Was elected to federal parliament in 2010, will probably be reelected next year. Presumably will go back to commentating whenever he gets booted out.

leng jai
06-20-2012, 02:16 AM
Hopefully. I miss the days when he would say something outlandish and Courier would give him a timeout.

ogre
06-20-2012, 03:52 AM
You forgot to include a surname....so Lleyton who?


Ok, jokes aside. It takes more than just an ability to win matches to build up a ranking from where Lleyton is now. It takes going into challengers and competing week after week.

Even if he is still good enough to match it with the top 20 if his ranking magically rose to that level. But it will not rise by magic and putting in the effort in the futures to bring it back just does not make sense.

Ranking is number 202, with 245 ranking points. 180 From the Australian Open, 45 from Wimbledon and 20 from Atlanta.

If he makes the QF in this Wimbledon he reaches around the 100th ranking, making the semis would bring him to around 50.

Any lower result than QF and it is hard to see him continuing other than one final retirement grand slam with another wild card.

Topspindoctor
06-20-2012, 03:55 AM
He doesn't need to worry. He'll always get AO WC until he's at least 50, not to mention evening time slot on Rod Laver arena.

Caesar1844
06-20-2012, 04:19 AM
Re WCs, let's be realistic. He's a beloved Australian player, former USO and Wimby champ, former long-term #1 and he still has a reputation of being able to upset almost anyone in the draw on a good day. No matter how far his ranking slips he can probably count on WCs at 3 out of 4 Slams until whenever he decides to retire.

I have thought for a long time that his last tournament would be the 2013 AO. He was never going to retire before the Olympics, and he also desperately wants to get Australia back into the DC World Group. A Melbourne farewell after that makes a lot of sense.

His recent surgery has made me wonder about that assessment though.

The_Aussie17
06-20-2012, 07:29 AM
Im amazed that the majority of people think he will be between 101-175 thats shocking he is way too good for a ranking that bad!

ogre
06-20-2012, 09:28 AM
Im amazed that the majority of people think he will be between 101-175 thats shocking he is way too good for a ranking that bad!

It is not a matter of how good he is. What rank he is equal to in playing ability when fit is very different from how high he will climb in the rankings.

It takes time, fitness, and a dedication that must be a challenge to find right now. Hewitt has achieved so much, to go back to challengers and play the rankings game is demeaning to his achievements. Wild cards in grand slams will only be enough if he makes QF or better, so there is a lot riding on this tournament.

His playing ability could be top 10 in the world, but his ranking doesn't climb to match the ability without week in week out grind for over 1 year.

Face that his ranking will not again return to reflect his ability.

coluta
06-20-2012, 09:44 AM
Hewitt has achieved so much, to go back to challengers and play the rankings game is demeaning to his achievements.

I know the two situations are way different, but demeaning? It was not demeaning for Agassi. In fact, having the courage to go back to challengers is one of the reasons Agassi is liked as a human being (among other things). It shows lack of arrogance.

Caesar1844
06-20-2012, 10:00 AM
Ranking is not important to Hewitt at this point in his career. He has achieved enough to be offered WCs into any event he wishes to play.

The most important thing is that he keeps his body fit for the events he does want to play in, and you don't do that by slogging it out in Challengers.

coluta
06-20-2012, 10:03 AM
Totally agree! It would be a bad choice for him, but not demeaning.

Hypnotize
06-20-2012, 10:54 AM
Ranking is not important to Hewitt at this point in his career. He has achieved enough to be offered WCs into any event he wishes to play.

The most important thing is that he keeps his body fit for the events he does want to play in, and you don't do that by slogging it out in Challengers.
He has pissed off so many people in the past, I don't think it is true to say he will be offered WCs to every event but he will certainly get quite a few. It also depends on how well he plays when he gets these WCs. If he keeps on losing in the 1st round, tournament directors aren't going to keep throwing WCs at him.

Caesar1844
06-20-2012, 11:14 AM
I don't think him pissing people off will affect things too much. As an Australian great he will get WCs to the AO for as long as he wants them. As a former Wimbledon and USO champion, together with being a former long-term #1, the same is probably true for both those tournaments. Even if he loses first round, the publicity for that match is worth it.

Again, due to his name and former tournament wins, getting WCs into warm-ups for the Slams will be easy. He might have to settle for the less glamourous ones (like Winston-Salem last year before the USO), but he'll never be short of match practice.

He will struggle to get into the FO, Masters Series, ATP 500s he's never won, etc. but at this point I doubt he cares much about them anyway.

Beat
06-20-2012, 02:34 PM
Honestly, I think he can make it back to the top 5 without any more injuries.

:spit:

Hewitt =Legend
06-20-2012, 03:58 PM
^ Might want to get the old sarcasm detector out there mate.

jrm
06-20-2012, 04:01 PM
done, for years now

The_Aussie17
08-03-2012, 07:49 AM
So Lleyton is back up to 159 in the world then he just picked up 70 points at the Olympics. With a great win over Cilic and an amazing performance for two sets against Novak i think its fair too say on grass Lleyton can still be a real tough opponent for the top 4! But not every tournament is played on grass i think it will be very interesting to see how he goes in his next tournament which im not sure where that is guessing Cincinnati cause i doubt very much he'd go into the US Open without some sort of warm up event! My oppinion has changed i think he can get his ranking up between 11-25 now c'mon Hewitt become the number 1 aussie again like you were for all those years, Tomic dosent belong there yet!

shumpy
08-03-2012, 08:16 AM
If he could keep his wife out of those crappy magazines back home his ranking might improve.

hewitt2002
08-03-2012, 08:50 AM
So Lleyton is back up to 159 in the world then he just picked up 70 points at the Olympics. With a great win over Cilic and an amazing performance for two sets against Novak i think its fair too say on grass Lleyton can still be a real tough opponent for the top 4! But not every tournament is played on grass i think it will be very interesting to see how he goes in his next tournament which im not sure where that is guessing Cincinnati cause i doubt very much he'd go into the US Open without some sort of warm up event! My oppinion has changed i think he can get his ranking up between 11-25 now c'mon Hewitt become the number 1 aussie again like you were for all those years, Tomic dosent belong there yet!

It all depends weather he can stay injury free. A number of times in the last 4 years he has been injury free and had a great run like reaching Q/final of Wimbledon in 09, and beating Federer in Halle in 2010, but just when you think hes going to get his ranking back into the top 20 he gets another injury and needs yet another surgery.

Hopefully this latest surgery has sorted his toe problem out for good, but there has been other injuries, 2 hip surgeries, a problem with his knee etc. He defiantly needs a wild card in to Cinncinnati to get some matches on hard court before the US open.

Lazyking
08-03-2012, 01:12 PM
I think he can be top 50 by end of the year. is he gonna get WC at USO?

Johnny Groove
08-03-2012, 01:31 PM
He still clearly has the game and the fire to easily be top 50, if not top 30.

The question is if the body can hold up.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
08-03-2012, 01:49 PM
Honestly, I think he can make it back to the top 5 without any more injuries.

in this mug era thats not an achivement
hewitt could be world number 1 if he doesnt get injured again
sadly federer wont let hi have number 1 and nole is too good for number 2
i think hewitt could be number 3 in the world

Kooyong
08-03-2012, 03:20 PM
If Lleyton was to be injury free for three years which sadly is unlikely but lets pretend.

I image he would get back to the top 50, he has the game and on court attitude that enabled him to beat most guys but he now lacks the fire power to regularly beat the top guys.

Although he would be considered a dangerous player that everyone would know that they had to be on their game against him.

At the slams he might make a few round of 16s but his peak is behind him although he did show plenty against Novak for two sets.

cutesteve22
08-04-2012, 08:17 AM
Just don't retire.

The_Aussie17
03-10-2013, 12:32 AM
He's still got it after today's win over big John Isner...

He's back in fact

Kyle_Johansen
03-10-2013, 12:37 AM
I think he could win a 250 event this year and get back in the top 70. That would be a great accomplishment.

Ziggy B
03-10-2013, 01:07 AM
Would love to see him make one last charge at a GS, win a few 250 events and a semi-final at the Aus Open or something. He was THE best for the 2 years prior to Fed's emergence IMO

james82
03-10-2013, 03:44 AM
He's still got it after today's win over big John Isner...

He's back in fact

too hard to tell if he beats wawrinka he still got it,beating isner in the form hes shown this year isnt impressive

Honestly
03-10-2013, 03:48 AM
Honestly, I think he can make it back to the top 5 without any more injuries.

Not sure why this is addressed to me but since it is I will answer. That is hard to imagine but he is a strong era legend so anything is possible for him.

rleatherman
08-05-2013, 08:59 AM
WTS... Hewitt is no where near done yet.

ProdigyEng
08-05-2013, 09:03 AM
LOL @ Deathless Mortal.