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Does Fed's have a new coach??

Teemuh
10-29-2004, 10:52 PM
According to one source Roger pulled out of Paris and is secretly practicing with Australian Tony Roche..

RonE
10-29-2004, 11:44 PM
What does this source base that statement on?

Teemuh
10-30-2004, 12:00 AM
This appeared in The Times Online.co. UK. They were talking about Henman and then had this: " For the second week in a row, they were calling this a championship designed for Henman to win. He had been left as the top seed in Madrid and when Roger Federer — the world No 1 who has been practising behind closed doors with Tony Roche, the Australian who guided Ivan Lendl and Pat Rafter to Wimbledon finals — pulled out of Basle with a thigh injury, all seemed set fair. "

Daniel
10-30-2004, 07:10 AM
mm i dont know, but if it true then lets hope he improves his game and wins more GS :D

lsy
10-30-2004, 08:14 AM
He had been left as the top seed in Madrid and when Roger Federer — the world No 1 who has been practising behind closed doors with Tony Roche, the Australian who guided Ivan Lendl and Pat Rafter to Wimbledon finals — pulled out of Basle with a thigh injury, all seemed set fair. "

That's interesting, when all were speculating Darren is who Rogi had his eyes on. I read somewhere Roche achieved much more as a double player than single? But he won in French Open?

Rogi seems to take a liking on the Aussie coaches.

This is probably not confirmed, but anybody can comment what's Tony Roche's style like? Who's a better coach? Tony or Darren?

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-30-2004, 08:19 AM
Tony Roche is a very good coach and a very affable guy. As for his coaching he is understated in style, but very meticulous as for past players.

Well I am not sure about anyone here but Ivan Lendl and Pat Rafter aren't exactly bad former pupils.

lsy
10-30-2004, 08:30 AM
Tony Roche is a very good coach and a very affable guy. As for his coaching he is understated in style, but very meticulous as for past players.

Good to hear. I don't r'ber where I heard this before, but I remembered some commentators saying Rogi plays and acts more of the styles of older generation of Aussie players than the current Aussie players.


Well I am not sure about anyone here but Ivan Lendl and Pat Rafter aren't exactly bad former pupils.

So Rafter was the last one he coached?

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-30-2004, 08:43 AM
Rafter was the last one, but he was a co-captain of the Davis Cup team with Newcombe.

Teemuh
10-30-2004, 03:28 PM
Federer woos Roche
By LEO SCHLINK
31oct04

TONY Roche has been linked again to the most coveted job in tennis – coaching world No. 1 Roger Federer.

Roche, the modest Sydneysider who guided Pat Rafter and Ivan Lendl to the peaks of the game, was first targeted by the Federer camp during the Australian summer season.
But the former Davis Cup great and Grand Slam singles champion was unable to give the Swiss stylist a commitment to return full-time to the circuit.

Federer, however, has persuaded Roche to be involved in a series of private practice sessions recently and there are increasingly strong suggestions from Switzerland Federer might have snared the former Australian Davis Cup coach.

Federer, 23, has been playing without a coach since he split from Swede Pete Lundgren – now working with Russian Marat Safin – after winning the Tennis Masters Cup in Houston last year.

His form has not suffered, with the right-hander compiling a 69-6 record with 10 singles titles this season, crowned by triumphs at the Australian Open, Wimbledon and US Open.

Federer is believed to have sounded out Roche in January as he sought a return to the Australian coaching system. He was originally groomed by South Australian Peter Carter, who was killed in a road accident in South Africa two years ago.

jtipson
10-30-2004, 09:50 PM
According to his lawyer, Roger has trained with Tony in Dubai, and may train again with him, but he says that Tony is not a candidate for the coach position because he does not want travel on tour.

http://www.baz.ch/news/index.cfm?keyID=9B7028F5-6C87-491F-94F1A5F9B1B10C8B

Teemuh
10-31-2004, 01:20 AM
According to his lawyer, Roger has trained with Tony in Dubai, and may train again with him, but he says that Tony is not a candidate for the coach position because he does not want travel on tour.

http://www.baz.ch/news/index.cfm?keyID=9B7028F5-6C87-491F-94F1A5F9B1B10C8B


Does anyone else find it ironic that the best player in the world can't find a coach because the handful of eligible candidates are either already working with other top players or are older and don't want to travel?

Daniel
10-31-2004, 06:17 AM
but i tohught Roger did not want a coach right now , since he fired last coach he won 3 more GS , but if he really needs one i am sure there are many coaches that would love to coach the best player in the world :)

WyveN
10-31-2004, 10:30 AM
I think even if Roach were to join Federer for the slams it would be benefitial, don't think he travelled full time with Rafter either.

The reason Roger likes the old style Australian players is that they all believe in a all court game and would definetly help Roger with volley tactics/strategies.

Cahill is also a coach like that and even the baseline bound Agassi has began to volley a tiny bit more since working with Darren, still think Cahill is the better long term solution then Roach but lets face it, doesn't seem like Agassi is letting him go anytime soon.

Dana
10-31-2004, 02:48 PM
According to his lawyer, Roger has trained with Tony in Dubai, and may train again with him, but he says that Tony is not a candidate for the coach position because he does not want travel on tour.

http://www.baz.ch/news/index.cfm?keyID=9B7028F5-6C87-491F-94F1A5F9B1B10C8B
From

http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nwmatinheadsport/sport_divers/tony_roche_avec_federer.html
According to the same lawyer, Roger will work part time with Roche. In that article, they said too that Roger and Roche met in Dubai.

lsy
10-31-2004, 02:50 PM
From

http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nwmatinheadsport/sport_divers/tony_roche_avec_federer.html
According to the same lawyer, Roger will work part time with Roche. In that article, they said too that Roger and Roche met in Dubai.

Dana thanks! So that's confirmed now? Rogi will work with Roche, part time?

Dana
10-31-2004, 02:58 PM
Dana thanks! So that's confirmed now? Rogi will work with Roche, part time?
According to Roger Jaunin from Le Matin, it seems so! But it will be a part time collaboration and Roche doesn't intend to travail much with Roger on the tour (as reported by Roger Jaunin). Hope we will have official news soon from Roger's website!

lsy
10-31-2004, 03:06 PM
According to Roger Jaunin from Le Matin, it seems so! But it will be a part time collaboration and Roche doesn't intend to travail much with Roger on the tour (as reported by Roger Jaunin). Hope we will have official news soon from Roger's website!

Thanks Dana. You're the best for latest Rogi's news :hug:

Might be for the better to try that out for part time and see how it works.

yanchr
10-31-2004, 04:18 PM
Thanks all for the information :hug:

Brilliant Roger, make a brilliant choice, always like he is :)

mitalidas
11-01-2004, 12:11 AM
Mmmm, nice.

Rocher Federer ;)

Daniel
11-01-2004, 06:33 AM
so it is confirmed then, it would be good to see how much it benefits Roger :clap2: :D

babsi
11-01-2004, 07:22 AM
Thanks to all for the information :)

Mrs. B
11-01-2004, 12:30 PM
good choice...see how this duo works. :)

Fondueischguät
11-02-2004, 07:26 AM
Good choice for Roger and yes WyveN he didn't travel around much with Rafter, just the major events and that could be the same for Roger and it's a very god choice.

Puschkin
11-02-2004, 10:35 AM
but i tohught Roger did not want a coach right now , since he fired last coach he won 3 more GS , but if he really needs one i am sure there are many coaches that would love to coach the best player in the world :)

I am not so sure about this. On one hand it must be a great challenge for any coach to work with Roger, but what happens if things go wrong, if Roger starts losing or is simply less successful than in 2004 (and the stakes are VERY VERY high), all blame would fall on the coach and the guy wouldn't get a new job easily. Therfore, coaching Roger is a high-risk assignment.

I think that Roche might be a good choice, if it is true. Old enough that he doesn't have to prove himself anymore and there is certainly some truth and value in the Australian tradition of an all-court game and a part-time arrangement also has its advantages, as it can be ended without losing face.
Sooner or later, Roger needs a coach and he seems to know that.

Without getting gossipy, I always thought that Mirka's role in Roger's success was highly underestimated, without taking anything away from Roger himself, of course.

babsi
11-02-2004, 12:50 PM
You are right Puschkin,
Mirka does have a great deal to do with Rogers success.
Roger once mentioned in an interview,that Mirka likes to do everything right away,while he himself likes to put things off.So if Mirka gets things done quickly,that means a free mind and more time to focus on the more importend things.
For her just to be there and patiently waiting around for him is great:)
Once she wasen´t with him - remember...ATHENS

Daniel
11-03-2004, 07:14 AM
I am not so sure about this. On one hand it must be a great challenge for any coach to work with Roger, but what happens if things go wrong, if Roger starts losing or is simply less successful than in 2004 (and the stakes are VERY VERY high), all blame would fall on the coach and the guy wouldn't get a new job easily. Therfore, coaching Roger is a high-risk assignment.

I think that Roche might be a good choice, if it is true. Old enough that he doesn't have to prove himself anymore and there is certainly some truth and value in the Australian tradition of an all-court game and a part-time arrangement also has its advantages, as it can be ended without losing face.
Sooner or later, Roger needs a coach and he seems to know that.

Without getting gossipy, I always thought that Mirka's role in Roger's success was highly underestimated, without taking anything away from Roger himself, of course.


I agree with you. I was thinknig about it too, it will be hard for Roche to handle the pressure if Roger starts losing and badly, but if Roger gets to win more titles, people will say he is good for Roger, etc, etc.

In my opinion, it is a good move as long as Roger gets better, and i mean keeps winning more Grand Slams. Lets see how it goes, i guess Roches will coach Roger in houston, if Roger plays there.

Fergie
11-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Thanks for all th news :yeah:

Good choice Roger and good luck :hug:

mitalidas
11-24-2004, 02:35 PM
no new coach, yet. I read:


It is remarkable that Lendl’s coach at the time, Mr Tony Roche, the Australian, was asked by Federer a month ago if he might consider helping the Swiss along. Mr Roche politely declined, saying that he did not want to travel the circuit again, but that he would treasure the offer. Who would not?

Daniel
11-25-2004, 08:34 AM
yeah no news or maybe the coach is asecret and will only show up in some crucial matches :p