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If you could have one weapon in pro tennis, what would it be?

tommyg6
06-18-2012, 12:09 AM
and lets say the rest of your game is futures level. Discuss. I will put up a poll.

leng jai
06-18-2012, 12:10 AM
Shinguards.

Filo V.
06-18-2012, 12:16 AM
Out of these, Monfils' athletic ability. Because I'd use my athleticism to cover my weak shots by running everything down.

Orka_n
06-18-2012, 12:20 AM
Steel balls.

Burrow
06-18-2012, 12:21 AM
Out of these, Monfils' athletic ability. Because I'd use my athleticism to cover my weak shots by running everything down.

You can get to the ball, but only if you haven't hit the ball mid-court waiting to be smacked for a winner, even Monfils isn't getting to that. If you can't hit the ball, athleticism means little.

I'd take the Raonic serve. Can end the point with one shot and if not, often an easy put-away.

abraxas21
06-18-2012, 12:23 AM
nadal's mafia support

then i'd become no 1 and win GS, regardless of how well i play

tommyg6
06-18-2012, 12:27 AM
I voted Rafael Nadal-like forehand.

duong
06-18-2012, 12:30 AM
Nadal's forehand and his footwork and steps too : a big bottom and thighs with so quick and agile legs is unbelievable.

Nadal's mental toughness is not as good as Djokovic's.

Besides, I would never want to be in Nadal's brain, I prefer being a happy man like Fed.

BauerAlmeida
06-18-2012, 12:34 AM
Federer's forehand and Stepanek's hability to pick up girls.

SheepleBuster
06-18-2012, 12:34 AM
Great ass to pick

Filo V.
06-18-2012, 12:42 AM
You can get to the ball, but only if you haven't hit the ball mid-court waiting to be smacked for a winner, even Monfils isn't getting to that. If you can't hit the ball, athleticism means little.

I'd take the Raonic serve. Can end the point with one shot and if not, often an easy put-away.I think a guy with mediocre groundstrokes but amazing speed can manage. You can make it work if you hit the ball with enough depth, as you said, if you have shitty groundstrokes, hitting them deep can somewhat hide that, make it harder to get attacked. It depends on how poor the groundstrokes are. Because Monfils hits some serious garbage balls but is able to get away with it because players are intimidated with his speed/acceleration.

rocketassist
06-18-2012, 12:43 AM
A big dick to impress the groupies.

duong
06-18-2012, 12:45 AM
I think a guy with mediocre groundstrokes but amazing speed can manage. You can make it work if you hit the ball with enough depth, as you said, if you have shitty groundstrokes, hitting them deep can somewhat hide that, make it harder to get attacked. It depends on how poor the groundstrokes are. Because Monfils hits some serious garbage balls but is able to get away with it because players are intimidated with his speed/acceleration.

yes but for athleticism, movement and footwork, Nadal should have been taken as the model, not Monfils :

I would take Nadal's athleticism 10 times over his so-called "mental toughness".

Even Ferrer has a great movement but with a light body it's far far less impressive than Nadal's movement who does that with strong legs and body.

SheepleBuster
06-18-2012, 12:48 AM
Perfect player for me would be Sampras' serve with Roger's forehand and Murray's backhand and Djokovic's mental toughness and movement and Andy Roddick's GF.

Filo V.
06-18-2012, 12:49 AM
yes but for athleticism, movement and footwork, Nadal should have been taken as the model, not Monfils :

I would take Nadal's athleticism 10 times over his so-called "mental toughness".

Even Ferrer has a great movement but with a light body it's far far less impressive than Nadal's movement who does that with strong legs and body.
Nadal is an elite mover, but Monfils is faster than him, accelerates quicker and has more athleticism. With that being said, Nadal does have way, way better footwork and athletic ability doesn't mean a lot if you don't use it properly. I'd still probably pick Monfils over Nadal and just train myself to be more technically sound.

Burrow
06-18-2012, 12:50 AM
I think a guy with mediocre groundstrokes but amazing speed can manage. You can make it work if you hit the ball with enough depth, as you said, if you have shitty groundstrokes, hitting them deep can somewhat hide that, make it harder to get attacked. It depends on how poor the groundstrokes are. Because Monfils hits some serious garbage balls but is able to get away with it because players are intimidated with his speed/acceleration.

Definitely but getting the ball deep enough consistently takes skill and is part of what makes ones groundstrokes sound. So if you're lacking power but can hit the ball deep enough, you can definitely give your opponents fits. The Safin match at Miami in 2009 is testament to that. I've literally never seen Monfils junk ball and push as much and after Safin squandered his two match points, it drove him over the edge. I'd rather not think about that much though :p

Depends on what you want to achieve. If the rest of the game is average, I think that a massive serve could score you a big win, against a quality opponent whereas if you have great athleticism and the rest of your game is average then it's more likely to work against lower ranked players and crumble when under stress from the big guns who generally have no problem finding ways through such opponents.

nellis_lv
06-18-2012, 12:51 AM
Nadal's mental toughness. The one most useful outside of tennis.

Mark Lenders
06-18-2012, 12:51 AM
Karlovic's first serve

Isner's second serve

Murray's blocked ROS

Djokovic's aggressive ROS

Nadal's top spin forehand

Del Potro's attacking/flat forehand

Nalbandian's two-hander top spin backhand

Wawrinka's one hander

Federer's slice backhand

Federer's smash

Federer's tennis IQ/court sense

Llodra's volleys

Murray's anticipation

Djokovic's movement


Reckon this would be enough to start my career.

JurajCrane
06-18-2012, 12:54 AM
Karlovic's first serve

Isner's second serve

Murray's blocked ROS

Djokovic's aggressive ROS

Nadal's top spin forehand

Del Potro's attacking/flat forehand

Nalbandian's two-hander top spin backhand

Wawrinka's one hander

Federer's slice backhand

Federer's smash

Federer's tennis IQ/court sense

Llodra's volleys

Murray's anticipation

Djokovic's movement


Reckon this would be enough to start my career.

Then you forgot Lendertards army :)

duong
06-18-2012, 12:56 AM
Nadal is an elite mover, but Monfils is faster than him, accelerates quicker and has more athleticism. With that being said, Nadal does have way, way better footwork and athletic ability doesn't mean a lot if you don't use it properly. I'd still probably pick Monfils over Nadal and just train myself to be more technically sound.

Monfils moves faster on longer distances but that's not the kind of athleticism which is most important/useful in tennis :

Nadal has way better footwork as you said, and with such a strong body it's unbelievable.

leng jai
06-18-2012, 12:58 AM
Clearly you'd want the serve. No chance of winning with any other attributes on the main tour.

stewietennis
06-18-2012, 01:00 AM
I would vote for movement but not Ferrer-like movement like the poll says. You'll need to be really fast like Chang or Hewitt during their peak years. Neither of those guys really had any other weapons – their servers weren't bullet-like, their groundstokes were adequate, their returns were very good but not great – but they still won because of their court coverage.

leng jai
06-18-2012, 01:02 AM
Yes but they didn't have futures level shots in their game, let alone for 90% of their game.

Burrow
06-18-2012, 01:02 AM
Monfils moves faster on longer distances but that's not the kind of athleticism which is most important/useful in tennis :

Nadal has way better footwork as you said, and with such a strong body it's unbelievable.

I'm not sure with what you mean by "strong body"?

Nadal is only around 85kg.

BauerAlmeida
06-18-2012, 01:02 AM
Sampras's serve
Agassi's return
Federer's forehand
Safin's/Nalbandian's backhand
Nadal's movement
McEnroe's volleys
Djokovic's mental strength

Johnny Groove
06-18-2012, 01:07 AM
If the rest of my game is futures level, I'll take the Raonic serve.

If the rest of my game is at least decent, I'll take Nadal's mental.

Filo V.
06-18-2012, 01:07 AM
Definitely but getting the ball deep enough consistently takes skill and is part of what makes ones groundstrokes sound. That's a great point, a lot of people (including me sometimes) tend to focus on pace of shot, weight of shot, direction, but getting consistently strong depth of shot takes a lot of skill indeed. It's what made Djokovic so tough last season. A guy without a lot of pace or sharpness to their groundstrokes definitely has to do whatever possible to get good depth to offset. Also adding in some slices would be good, and that too takes skill, variety. If I had mediocre shotmaking ability then I'd slice and loft balls, change pace pretty consistently, and hit down the middle a lot to make it harder for my opponent to create angles and push me off the court. I'd also stand closer to the baseline than Monfils does.

I remember that Safin-Monfils match, those slow courts in Miami really helped Gael. Marat had to hit so many clean shots to get Monfils out of position enough to create a winning shot or force an error. The homogenization of the courts today have helped players like Monfils or Simon in that regard.

I agree that having a big serve with a mediocre game off of it is the best way to achieve a big win in the game, being able to serve your way into holds consistently, and that pressure alone is enough to cause even the most mentally tough players to crack. But I don't see that as a sustainable way of winning matches. Not every first serve will be an ace, and there will be second serves you are forced to hit. Hitting first serves on second serves would be smart, but it's very risky. With the way the game has evolved I don't think those types of players are likely to succeed very much anymore.

leng jai
06-18-2012, 01:08 AM
With the criteria set by the OP no choice will give you much chance to win on the main tour.

Filo V.
06-18-2012, 01:10 AM
Monfils moves faster on longer distances but that's not the kind of athleticism which is most important/useful in tennis :

Nadal has way better footwork as you said, and with such a strong body it's unbelievable.

Footwork can be upgraded. Monfils-like athletic ability is something that can't be taught.

Topspindoctor
06-18-2012, 01:14 AM
Nadal forehand :yeah:

Looner
06-18-2012, 01:24 AM
Raonic serve obviously. Ivo Karlovic is a clear example. The rest of his game is not THAT awful but his serve is the standout shot and you can see he's done quite well for himself.

leng jai
06-18-2012, 01:26 AM
I'd like to have a futures' level mental strength. Whats that, Troicki?

Mjau!
06-18-2012, 01:28 AM
Dr. del Moral's "revolutionary" fitness program.

Aletheian
06-18-2012, 02:13 AM
Nadal has far more athleticism than Monfils in my opinion, and I am not even a fan of his.

Jimnik
06-18-2012, 03:17 AM
Other. Can't be bothered to specify.

BroTree123
06-18-2012, 03:30 AM
The serve :rocker2:

abraxas21
06-18-2012, 03:42 AM
Karlovic's first serve

Isner's second serve

Murray's blocked ROS

Djokovic's aggressive ROS

Nadal's top spin forehand

Del Potro's attacking/flat forehand

Nalbandian's two-hander top spin backhand

Wawrinka's one hander

Federer's slice backhand

Federer's smash

Federer's tennis IQ/court sense

Llodra's volleys

Murray's anticipation

Djokovic's movement


Reckon this would be enough to start my career.

overall good choices but i was a bit amazed at the bolded one. from the top 4 alone, murray is the most astute player, imo.

Topspindoctor
06-18-2012, 03:55 AM
overall good choices but i was a bit amazed at the bolded one. from the top 4 alone, murray is the most astute player, imo.

Is that why he's 0-9 sets won in slam finals? I'd like to borrow some of that "astuteness", I bet I'll be CEO of Microsoft in no time :rocker2:

n8
06-18-2012, 04:20 AM
I reckon if you surveyed the Futures tour, most would go for Nadal's forehand or Raonic's serve.

I would go for Nadal's forehand. A lot of lower ranked guys simply can't handle the spin, so a Futures level player will be able to work his way up the ranking pretty quickly. Plus a forehand weapon is more valuable than a backhand weapon. The reason for this is that it is a lot easier (physically) to run around your backhand and hit a forehand than vice versa. Plus forehands are generally much better at generating pace off slow balls. In rallies, after a few heavy shots, the put away is struck much more often with forehand than a backhand.

TheBaker
06-18-2012, 04:42 AM
Nalbandian's right boot.

Clay Death
06-18-2012, 04:46 AM
i am greedy so i will take 3 weapons:

1. world class movement

2. clay warrior`s forehand of death

3. nole`s return of serve

Doggy
06-18-2012, 04:52 AM
Federer serve and i don't even like the guy

Clay Death
06-18-2012, 04:59 AM
1 weapon is not good enough anymore if you aspire to be a top player.

AntiTennis
06-18-2012, 05:23 AM
Fed's magic :yeah:

SerialKillerToBe
06-18-2012, 05:58 AM
I'd take the Fog's ability to bullshit your way through matches.

Shinoj
06-18-2012, 05:59 AM
Friendship with Tournament Director. And a Good Fast First Serve... Not that i dont have it... But just mentioning it.

yesh222
06-18-2012, 06:05 AM
An Isner-like serve. It's the only weapon that can actually win you entire matches on its own.

tommyg6
06-18-2012, 06:43 AM
Nalbandian's right boot.

:haha::haha::haha:

I should've added that as an option but I'm sure the mods would've took the thread down immediately.

ahadabans
06-18-2012, 07:48 AM
Nadal's mental toughness. It's what I admire most about him and it has applications outside tennis. Because if I only had one great tennis attribute, I would be a tennis mug and wouldn't be making a lot of money playing it.

paseo
06-18-2012, 09:04 AM
Federer's BH.

Slam winning shot, that.

uxyzapenje
06-18-2012, 10:10 AM
No1 wants to be a Gulbis-like mug

ossie
06-18-2012, 10:23 AM
delpos forehand

Rafaspin
06-18-2012, 10:29 AM
Gasquet's good looks. Oh i already have them.

Chris Kuerten
06-18-2012, 10:30 AM
Imagine Karlovic without his serve and you have your answer.

Chris Kuerten
06-18-2012, 10:30 AM
Gasquet's good looks. Oh i already have them.
You are a balding cokehead too?

TBkeeper
06-18-2012, 10:31 AM
Davydenko's taking the ball on the rise

Rafaspin
06-18-2012, 10:32 AM
You are a balding cokehead too?

Harsh.

Hian-GOAT
06-18-2012, 10:36 AM
Fish's forehand.

Commander Data
06-18-2012, 11:00 AM
Nalbandians kick, better then Chuck Norris.

Wing Man Frank
06-18-2012, 11:02 AM
Anyone who said serve is correct.

Any other answer is completely wrong.

tripwires
06-18-2012, 11:06 AM
Isner's serve and Federer's forehand.

Chirag
06-18-2012, 11:07 AM
for current players the Raonic serve and Federer forehand

Federer in 2
06-18-2012, 01:48 PM
Djokovic's girlfriend.

Other weapons:
Federer's attacking forehand
Nadal's top-spin forehand
Delpo's flat forhand
Djokovic's two handed backhand
Federer's/Haas's one handed backhand
Nadal's ability to make passing shots
Raonic's serve
Murray's/Djokovic's return
Federer's intelligence
Federer's mental strength (at his peak)
Llodra's volley
Djokovic's lobs
Federer's slice
Haas's face

romismak
06-18-2012, 01:51 PM
From those options nothing else only Raonic´s serve, serve is most important shot in tennis, so if say i have may own skills - barely futures level:D add to that super serve and you can go play and maybe win challengers with Milos´s serve.

Orange Wombat
06-18-2012, 02:02 PM
Dodig's balls of steel.:worship:

Chase Visa
06-18-2012, 02:03 PM
Given how crap my athletic ability is, I'll take the serve.