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4 One-Handed backhand players in Halle semis.

viruzzz
06-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Federer - Youzhny
Kohlschreiber - Haas

Considering this era has a 1/5 (probably less) players with a one handed backhand over the ones with two-handed BH, that's pretty unexpected.

Andresito
06-15-2012, 07:19 PM
All 4 players with single handers.

You just got to love grass.

When was the last time it happened on a tournament?

samanosuke
06-15-2012, 07:20 PM
Even on slower grass tennis wins. One dimensional dirt ballers should suffer every week like this one

Allez
06-15-2012, 07:20 PM
Has this ever happened. We're in for a real treat.

MuzzahLovah
06-15-2012, 07:22 PM
Lol you and Andresito having the same thought.

1 handed players seem to have better slices and those work more on grass, so yeah good to see.

kiriri***
06-15-2012, 07:22 PM
That's amazing:eek:

Federer in 2
06-15-2012, 07:23 PM
Justice is served.

leng jai
06-15-2012, 07:23 PM
Four singlehanded serves as well. This tournament is amazing.

STUHL
06-15-2012, 07:25 PM
Tennis wins!

Mae
06-15-2012, 07:26 PM
I love watching Matches with both players having one-handed backhands :hearts: Go Tommy :bigclap:

Slice Winner
06-15-2012, 07:26 PM
Fast grass is no place for pushers ;)

70-68
06-15-2012, 07:27 PM
hmmm smells like real grass

Clashcityrocker
06-15-2012, 07:28 PM
backhand porn !!!
let's ban the doublehanders :angel:

TigerTim
06-15-2012, 07:29 PM
:worship: grass :cool::)

Lugburz
06-15-2012, 07:31 PM
:devil::devil::devil::devil::worship:

No words needed :p

Slice Winner
06-15-2012, 07:32 PM
Sad thing is that the youngest of them is 28.

Hian-GOAT
06-15-2012, 07:34 PM
:worship: And all good players.

No Nadal, no Murray, no Simon, no Tipsarevic, no Raonic, no Karlovic.

Grass tennis :woohoo:

Sjengster
06-15-2012, 07:37 PM
No idea when this last happened in a regular tournament, but the last major it happened in was also on grass - Wimbledon 1997, where the semis were Sampras v Woodbridge and Pioline v Stich. Interestingly, 7 of the 8 quarterfinalists were one-handers too, with Kiefer being the odd man out.

Clashcityrocker
06-15-2012, 07:39 PM
No idea when this last happened in a regular tournament, but the last major it happened in was also on grass - Wimbledon 1997, where the semis were Sampras v Woodbridge and Pioline v Stich. Interestingly, 7 of the 8 quarterfinalists were one-handers too, with Kiefer being the odd man out.

the last great Wimbledon edition then ;)

Nirjhor
06-15-2012, 07:40 PM
Oh yeah..!! :worship:

Clashcityrocker
06-15-2012, 07:41 PM
a wise man once said : why use 2 when one hand does the job too :)

JayR
06-15-2012, 07:44 PM
Savour the absolute pleasure of pure, unadulterated backhand porn, people...:cool:

Clashcityrocker
06-15-2012, 07:46 PM
hear hear, best siggy on mtf

Jimnik
06-15-2012, 07:47 PM
They should all play with left hands tied behind their backs.

arm
06-15-2012, 07:50 PM
:rolls: single handed bh fans having a party in here.

Clashcityrocker
06-15-2012, 07:51 PM
:rolls: single handed bh fans having a party in here.

Raquel, a player with a one hander is like a man dressed in a great suit, classy !! ;)

arm
06-15-2012, 07:54 PM
Raquel, a player with a one hander is like a man dressed in a great suit, classy !! ;)

:lol: yeah I agree it's more visually appealing. :p

I do disagree with other stuff, but I shall not be a party pooper, so I leave you all here celebrating. :D :aparty:

Timariot
06-15-2012, 07:56 PM
Even on slower grass tennis wins. One dimensional dirt ballers should suffer every week like this one

It's funny how people nowadays equate 2h backhand = clay and 1h backhand = grass. Once upon a time, it was thought that 1h backhand was superior on clay. Many all-time great claycourters had 1h backhands. 2h backhand was a freak shot which worked only in producing flat shots on fast courts.

ciprianned
06-15-2012, 08:03 PM
for 250 isn't strange ...

Johnny Groove
06-15-2012, 08:13 PM
a wise man once said : why use 2 when one hand does the job too :)

Talking about tennis? :scratch:

It's funny how people nowadays equate 2h backhand = clay and 1h backhand = grass. Once upon a time, it was thought that 1h backhand was superior on clay. Many all-time great claycourters had 1h backhands. 2h backhand was a freak shot which worked only in producing flat shots on fast courts.

Guga owned RG with a one hander :yeah:

JayR
06-15-2012, 08:32 PM
:rolls: single handed bh fans having a party in here.

We're entitled. :lol:

hear hear, best siggy on mtf

*Curtseys prettily*

Lugburz
06-15-2012, 08:35 PM
party party party

*M*
06-16-2012, 03:52 AM
party party party

Add me to the party too :bounce:-- love the one-handed backhand. I enjoy watching these four guys play anyway, so I'm really happy to see them all make it to the semis.

Fedex
06-16-2012, 03:57 AM
This is really cool. Savor the moment, because it'll probably be a long time before we see it again.

156mphserve
06-16-2012, 04:22 AM
HALLElujah

Mark Lenders
06-16-2012, 04:45 AM
Hate to be a buzzkill guys but single-handed backhands are on their way out. There is only one in the top 10.



Don't live in the past. Embrace the present. Go double-handed.

1.5.

Tsonga can hit a one hander and does so a few times, namely on passing shots

Caesar1844
06-16-2012, 05:30 AM
It's funny how people nowadays equate 2h backhand = clay and 1h backhand = grass. Once upon a time, it was thought that 1h backhand was superior on clay. Many all-time great claycourters had 1h backhands. 2h backhand was a freak shot which worked only in producing flat shots on fast courts.
One-handed has always been better than two on genuinely quick surfaces for a lot of reasons.

It didn't used to be a massive disadvantage on clay, because players used to produce a lot less topspin than they do now. Muster (and even Guga) were hitting balls that bounced a lot lower than the ones players face at RG these days.

LeChuck
06-16-2012, 08:40 AM
The last time this happened at an ATP tournament was at Viņa del Mar in 2009, when the semi-finalists were González, Acasuso, Cuevas and Robredo.

It's nice to see this happening again. I do have a preference for the one handed backhand (I have one myself). I much preferred it when there was more of a balanced mix of one handers and two handers on the tour, then the current two-handed backhand dominated tour. More variety always equalled more fun and enjoyment for me.

However as we know adopting the one handed backhand is far riskier, as there is a lot of pressure on many juniors to achieve good results at an early stage, and the one hander can be a disadvantage on the return of serve and with dealing with high balls. Plus the one hander places greater demands on having effective footwork and movement.

Generally IMO a beautiful one hander like those of Edberg, Gaudio, Stich, Pavel etc, is more aesthetically pleasing and even nicer to watch than a beautiful two hander like those of Ríos, Nalbandian, Arazi, Kafelnikov etc.

Pirata.
06-16-2012, 08:58 AM
Sad thing is that the youngest of them is 28.

:sad:

Mystique
06-16-2012, 09:05 AM
::drool: We are in for such a treat today! Whoever wins, tennis is the big winner this tournament :worship:

:woohoo:Halle Grass!:woohoo:

All 4 players with single handers.

You just got to love TRUE grass.

When was the last time it happened on a tournament?

FIXED IT.

barbadosan
06-16-2012, 09:17 AM
HALLElujah

Nice! :worship::D

Action Jackson
06-16-2012, 09:33 AM
The last time this happened at an ATP tournament was at Viņa del Mar in 2009, when the semi-finalists were González, Acasuso, Cuevas and Robredo.

It's nice to see this happening again. I do have a preference for the one handed backhand (I have one myself). I much preferred it when there was more of a balanced mix of one handers and two handers on the tour, then the current two-handed backhand dominated tour. More variety always equalled more fun and enjoyment for me.

However as we know adopting the one handed backhand is far riskier, as there is a lot of pressure on many juniors to achieve good results at an early stage, and the one hander can be a disadvantage on the return of serve and with dealing with high balls. Plus the one hander places greater demands on having effective footwork and movement.

Generally IMO a beautiful one hander like those of Edberg, Gaudio, Stich, Pavel etc, is more aesthetically pleasing and even nicer to watch than a beautiful two hander like those of Ríos, Nalbandian, Arazi, Kafelnikov etc.

Well said except Arazi was a single hander.

Dougie
06-16-2012, 09:36 AM
The last time this happened at an ATP tournament was at Viņa del Mar in 2009, when the semi-finalists were González, Acasuso, Cuevas and Robredo.

It's nice to see this happening again. I do have a preference for the one handed backhand (I have one myself). I much preferred it when there was more of a balanced mix of one handers and two handers on the tour, then the current two-handed backhand dominated tour. More variety always equalled more fun and enjoyment for me.

However as we know adopting the one handed backhand is far riskier, as there is a lot of pressure on many juniors to achieve good results at an early stage, and the one hander can be a disadvantage on the return of serve and with dealing with high balls. Plus the one hander places greater demands on having effective footwork and movement.

Generally IMO a beautiful one hander like those of Edberg, Gaudio, Stich, Pavel etc, is more aesthetically pleasing and even nicer to watch than a beautiful two hander like those of Ríos, Nalbandian, Arazi, Kafelnikov etc.

Very good post. Itīs almost impossible to say objectively which one is better, one-hander or two-hander, but I prefer the one-hander, pretty much due to the reasons listed here. I have one myself, and itīs such a beautiful shot.

leng jai
06-16-2012, 09:50 AM
The single handed backhand is an extremely tough shot to learn when you're just starting unless you have a strong wrist. It's no wonder a lot of juniors give up on it and most coaches don't even try.

LeChuck
06-16-2012, 10:01 AM
Well said except Arazi was a single hander.

My bad I meant to include Arazi in that list of one handers and put Kucera in the list of two handers. A pretty bad typo there :lol:.

I was a pretty big fanboy of the three Moroccan legends.

Very good post. Itīs almost impossible to say objectively which one is better, one-hander or two-hander, but I prefer the one-hander, pretty much due to the reasons listed here. I have one myself, and itīs such a beautiful shot.

Yes there is nothing wrong with two hander and it has its place on the tour of course. If the vast majority of the tour had one handers I would also be wishing more of a balance between one handers and two handers as well. A one hander executed properly is beautiful to watch, and ripping winners with a one hander is such a great feeling.

The single handed backhand is an extremely tough shot to learn when you're just starting unless you have a strong wrist. It's no wonder a lot of juniors give up on it and most coaches don't even try.

Yes many coaches and juniors don't really have the patience to teach/learn the technique, positioning and footwork patterns required, and risk getting poor results for a while before the aspiring player becomes more comfortable with it.

That is understandable of course because players are under so much pressure to win matches and gain sponsorship money as early as they can to make a decent living in a cut-throat individual sport.

For me personally the one hander just feels more natural. If I tried to play with a two hander I would probably hit 80% of shots into the fence.

Dougie
06-16-2012, 10:09 AM
The single handed backhand is an extremely tough shot to learn when you're just starting unless you have a strong wrist. It's no wonder a lot of juniors give up on it and most coaches don't even try.

All true, itīs very rare to see a junior player with a single handed backhand these days. I switched from a two-handed shot to a single handed backhand when I was 14 years old, my coach encouraged me to switch, since I had terrible trouble with weight transfer and rhythm when hitting with two hands. My coach said heīd seen similar issues with a lot of players, and thought it would be better to switch while you still can, rather than keep struggling. Anyway, the switch worked for me, Iīve been hitting a single handed shot ever since, and I love it. Obviously, when youīre 14, you already have some required strengh so youīre able to hit with one hand, but itīs really difficult when youīre starting out. Itīs still a shame to see so few of them nowadays.

Caesar1844
06-16-2012, 10:13 AM
It doesn't really pay to play with a one-hander in the modern game. The advantages that come with the two-hander in terms of ability to deal with high bouncing topspin and solidity on return are massive, the second being perhaps the most important factor of all. Quicker preparation helps too. At the same time, several of the traditional advantages of the one-hander are a lot less useful than they used to be. Better striking of low-bouncing balls and better transition to the net are of limited value to modern players.

Why spend more time to develop a harder stroke that is realistically probably going to benefit you less than the alternative?

That said, I love the one-hander. Being ambidextrous my coach always wanted me to play a two-hander, but since my idols were Edberg and Cash there was no way he was ever going to convince me. Growing up in the early 90s, the 2HBH was still a shot for girls.

leng jai
06-16-2012, 10:17 AM
All true, itīs very rare to see a junior player with a single handed backhand these days. I switched from a two-handed shot to a single handed backhand when I was 14 years old, my coach encouraged me to switch, since I had terrible trouble with weight transfer and rhythm when hitting with two hands. My coach said heīd seen similar issues with a lot of players, and thought it would be better to switch while you still can, rather than keep struggling. Anyway, the switch worked for me, Iīve been hitting a single handed shot ever since, and I love it. Obviously, when youīre 14, you already have some required strengh so youīre able to hit with one hand, but itīs really difficult when youīre starting out. Itīs still a shame to see so few of them nowadays.

I didn't even have a coach so it was even harder for me when I started when I was 12. Pretty much taught myself watching tapes of Kuerten/Corretja/Haas and even then I pretty much only had a slice backhand. I'm 24 now and play regularly but everytime I have an extended break from the sport it takes me a few weeks to get my backhand to a consistent level. High balls are still a nightmare and that will never be fixed unless I grow 8 inches.

Dougie
06-16-2012, 10:51 AM
I didn't even have a coach so it was even harder for me when I started when I was 12. Pretty much taught myself watching tapes of Kuerten/Corretja/Haas and even then I pretty much only had a slice backhand. I'm 24 now and play regularly but everytime I have an extended break from the sport it takes me a few weeks to get my backhand to a consistent level. High balls are still a nightmare and that will never be fixed unless I grow 8 inches.

I have the same problem, and I donīt think itīll ever get fixed. Every time I hit my backhand shoulder height, I end up hitting it short. I canīt even imagine what it must be like to try hitting it against someone like Nadalīs high topspin forehand...

Filo V.
06-16-2012, 11:20 AM
One handed BH's are good on grass because you have more variety and racquet head speed with the shot, and the ability to hit low shots and still get the ball on the sweet spot of the racquet.

buzz
06-16-2012, 11:32 AM
I have the same problem, and I donīt think itīll ever get fixed. Every time I hit my backhand shoulder height, I end up hitting it short. I canīt even imagine what it must be like to try hitting it against someone like Nadalīs high topspin forehand...

I just slice when I get a ball at shoulderheight.

Burrow
06-16-2012, 12:02 PM
One handed BH's are good on grass because you have more variety and racquet head speed with the shot, and the ability to hit low shots and still get the ball on the sweet spot of the racquet.

You're good at memorising statistics, players and the like of the ATP tour but as for your understanding of the technical side of the game and biomechanics and what not...

How do you have more variety? Because single handed players sometimes have better slices?

And you don't automatically get more racket head speed with a single handed backhand, you can however achieve further extension on the follow through to maximise power.

And the ability to use your non-dominant hand in low shots is actually very important in hitting low balls because it enables you to create further whip of the wrist to allow for more top spin, which is crucial on low balls. This allows you to balance out the power through both both arms where as if you're a one handed player, you have to create the whip and power with a single arm which is extremely strenuous on your wrist and rotator cuff. Easier control is far more achievable with a double handed backhand in today's gruelling game, when you may have to hit 5 or more backhands in every third rally in a best of 5 set match. It takes its toll.

And I don't know where to even begin with the sweet spot part, since when did using two hands disable you from achieving a central contact?

Dougie
06-16-2012, 12:19 PM
I just slice when I get a ball at shoulderheight.

I do that too, when the opponentīs shot has enough pace I like to slice it back, but when its just a high ball with not much pace, itīs difficult slice it, since slice bh ( at least mine) doesnīt really generate that much pace on itīs own, but relies more on the pace generated by the opponentīs shot. Thatīs when I need to hit it with topspin, and thatīs when the trouble starts...

leng jai
06-16-2012, 12:21 PM
I do that too, when the opponentīs shot has enough pace I like to slice it back, but when its just a high ball with not much pace, itīs difficult slice it, since slice bh ( at least mine) doesnīt really generate that much pace on itīs own, but relies more on the pace generated by the opponentīs shot. Thatīs when I need to hit it with topspin, and thatīs when the trouble starts...

High ball with no pace = run around and hit a forehand.

cocrcici
06-16-2012, 12:25 PM
boring...

Dougie
06-16-2012, 12:32 PM
High ball with no pace = run around and hit a forehand.

Not with my speed, Iīd have a hard time getting back to position! :lol:

tripwires
06-16-2012, 12:32 PM
boring...

Buzz off.

leng jai
06-16-2012, 12:33 PM
Not with my speed, Iīd have a hard time getting back to position! :lol:

Are you nimble enough to take a few steps back and wait for the ball to drop to waist height then? :)

zdravkelja
06-16-2012, 12:33 PM
Tennis won this week :)

Johnny Groove
06-16-2012, 12:52 PM
I had a 2 handed backhand for many years and only switched to a 1 hander last year. My, what an improvement! Number 1 is mentally. Before, with my 2 hander, whenever I had to hit a backhand, it was like: "Dammit, another BH, can't run around this one." Now, with the 1 hander, it is: "Yes, I get to hit a backhand now!"

A 1 hander is just more fun to play with :lol: On return, it can be a bit of an issue, until you get the timing with it. After that, I think its actually EASIER to return with 1 hand than 2. Plus the slice comes more naturally with a 1 hander.

As for the high balls, you just gotta be quick, and take it on the rise. In cases where that is impossible, the jumping one handed backhand must come into play. Actually, I try to get enough force from my legs into the shot that I naturally leave the ground at least a few inches, both FH and BH. So nearly every shot, I am exploding off the ground.

Overall, 1 handed backhand is the shit.

LeChuck
06-16-2012, 03:08 PM
I agree that the one hander is far more fun to play and hit the ball with. Also without wishing to sound snobbish, but I enjoy being part of a more 'exclusive' club of people who play with one handed backhands, rather than being just another two hander.

With regards to the return of serve, it's true that the two hander is far more reliable and even when one handers were more common on the tour most of the best returners had two handed backhands.

The two best one handed backhand return of serves I've seen belonged to the Germans Becker and Stich. Becker of course was an incredibly strong and powerful guy which helped, and his backhand return of serve was very effective against Edberg's kick serve and a major reason why he won 25 out of their 35 matches.

Stich's backhand return was a huge weapon as well and in the 1991 Wimbledon final against Becker the commentators were mentioning how it was one of his favourite shots.

TigerTim
06-16-2012, 03:12 PM
One hander is the boss (I play with it), though I do envy the two handers when they smash the ball after it sits up on their backhand side, I can't quite manage that.

Lugburz
06-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Here we go again :worship:

Rychu
06-14-2013, 03:34 PM
:worship:

Fat Camel
06-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Grass is so much better than other surfaces :)

JarkaFish
06-14-2013, 03:36 PM
Grass :hearts:

:woohoo:

MuzzahLovah
06-14-2013, 03:39 PM
Eh I like 1 handed backhands but I'd take Murray and Hewitt over mos of these guys.

pascal'rG
06-14-2013, 03:40 PM
5 with Gasquet !

Atp really need a bigger grass season...

motorhead
06-14-2013, 03:49 PM
spot on bump :worship:

afterglows
06-14-2013, 04:20 PM
5 with Gasquet !


:lol: come on...

Viva Halle!!

Htom Sirveaux
06-14-2013, 06:28 PM
Fast court tards are so fucking petty. Try appreciating your favorite surface/tennis style without shitting on others. It IS possible.

And that this has happened in Halle this year isn't very surprising. Seven of the top eight didn't show and they all happen to be two-handers. Federer always does well here; Gasquet is the two seed and has had a good year; Haas is three, in good form and is the defending champ; and Youzhny found some form during the clay season and had a pretty comfortable quarter.

Kyle_Johansen
06-14-2013, 06:35 PM
I never realized how awesome a one-hander Mikhail has.

latso
06-14-2013, 07:59 PM
Lol you and Andresito having the same thought.

1 handed players seem to have better slices and those work more on grass, so yeah good to see.

ditto :yeah:

latso
06-14-2013, 08:04 PM
I agree that the one hander is far more fun to play and hit the ball with. Also without wishing to sound snobbish, but I enjoy being part of a more 'exclusive' club of people who play with one handed backhands, rather than being just another two hander.

With regards to the return of serve, it's true that the two hander is far more reliable and even when one handers were more common on the tour most of the best returners had two handed backhands.

The two best one handed backhand return of serves I've seen belonged to the Germans Becker and Stich. Becker of course was an incredibly strong and powerful guy which helped, and his backhand return of serve was very effective against Edberg's kick serve and a major reason why he won 25 out of their 35 matches.

Stich's backhand return was a huge weapon as well and in the 1991 Wimbledon final against Becker the commentators were mentioning how it was one of his favourite shots.
i don't think there's any advantage in ROS between the two styles at all whatsoever.

With one of them you have more reach and develop an eventually better, more precise slice, with the other you have more stability when taking the ball on the rise.

It's been a long, long time since kick serves stopped being any problem for anyone.

One handers have problems against high bouncing topspin lift on clay, on sunny days. That's it.

GSMnadal
06-14-2013, 08:08 PM
Are we going to have a thread like this EVERY time guys with one handers reach the latter stage of a tournament?

http://ajikaslafma.wikispaces.com/file/view/OMG,+Who+the+Hell+Cares.gif

ProdigyEng
06-14-2013, 08:19 PM
Real Tennis is being played at Queens. All these mugs would be out before the Semi Final stages of Queens if they played.

latso
06-14-2013, 08:21 PM
Are we going to have a thread like this EVERY time guys with one handers reach the latter stage of a tournament?

http://ajikaslafma.wikispaces.com/file/view/OMG,+Who+the+Hell+Cares.gif

you're not obliged to participate.

Some of us enjoy that beauty and we like to share it with each other.

I do appreciate the Rafa - Nole battles, so i'm not anti-2HBH, just very pro 1HBHs

I believe it's a fact that there are much, much less (if any) one handed BH pushers, so it's an epitome of attacking tennis, which most should normally enjoy.

Burrow
06-14-2013, 08:27 PM
you're not obliged to participate.

Some of us enjoy that beauty and we like to share it with each other.

I do appreciate the Rafa - Nole battles, so i'm not anti-2HBH, just very pro 1HBHs

I believe it's a fact that there are much, much less (if any) one handed BH pushers, so it's an epitome of attacking tennis, which most should normally enjoy.


Grigor Dimitrov (BUL)

latso
06-14-2013, 08:45 PM
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL)
yeah, right... :rolleyes:

the closest to pusher could be Robredo and Youzhny i guess, and they're like miles away from the least pushing 2hbh pusher

but that's obviously not a base to even discuss, as it's very obvious anyway

Puschkin
06-14-2013, 08:52 PM
Sad thing is that the youngest of them is 28.
27 next week!

Ouragan
06-14-2013, 09:07 PM
27 next week!

It took me a while too, but that post was written last year when Kohlschreiber was in the semis instead of Gasquet.

Puschkin
06-14-2013, 09:14 PM
It took me a while too, but that post was written last year when Kohlschreiber was in the semis instead of Gasquet.

:o my mistake.

JayR
06-14-2013, 09:15 PM
backhand porn !!!
let's ban the doublehanders :angel:

Should be mandatory viewing. :rocker2:
That should be on a t-shirt somewhere. :angel:

Lugburz
06-14-2013, 09:54 PM
yeah, right... :rolleyes:

the closest to pusher could be Robredo and Youzhny i guess, and they're like miles away from the least pushing 2hbh pusher

but that's obviously not a base to even discuss, as it's very obvious anyway

Youzhny definitely doesn't belong here. He's sometimes even too offensive.
Dimitrov also doesn't belong there.

Closest ones could include Robredo, Gasquet and Rochus.

Burrow
06-14-2013, 10:30 PM
Youzhny definitely doesn't belong here. He's sometimes even too offensive.
Dimitrov also doesn't belong there.

Closest ones could include Robredo, Gasquet and Rochus.

Rochus is more aggressive than both Youzhny and Dimitrov, especially in his younger years during around 2002-2005.

Lugburz
06-14-2013, 10:36 PM
Rochus is more aggressive than both Youzhny and Dimitrov, especially in his younger years during around 2002-2005.

Probably you're right, I don't remember him from back then.

Burrow
06-14-2013, 10:40 PM
Rochus played a lot of good matches against Marat Safin and defeated him at Wimbledon in 2002. Because Safin hit the ball so flat, Rochus didn't have to hit as many high balls as he normally would and I couldn't believe the power he could generate. He used to be listed as 163cm (I think it is more accurate than this new 2006+ listing of 168cm) and I think if he were 180+ he could have been a big title challenger.

Lugburz
06-14-2013, 10:42 PM
Rochus played a lot of good matches against Marat Safin and defeated him at Wimbledon in 2002. Because Safin hit the ball so flat, Rochus didn't have to hit as many high balls as he normally would and I couldn't believe the power he could generate. He used to be listed as 163cm (I think it is more accurate than this new 2006+ listing of 168cm) and I think if he were 180+ he could have been a big title challenger.

Yep I like his game

Juz78
06-15-2013, 12:51 AM
backhand porn !!!
let's ban the doublehanders :angel:

:worship:

Houstonko
06-15-2013, 01:18 AM
Halle is real grass, ace bots survive easily there. Nadal & djoker will lose Wimbledon every year on such a grass. Too bad the slam is clay.

Lugburz
06-15-2013, 01:33 AM
Halle is real grass, ace bots survive easily there. Nadal & djoker will lose Wimbledon every year on such a grass. Too bad the slam is clay.

name one servebot who won Halle or even got to the semis in say last 10 years, without trolling.

atennisfan
06-15-2013, 02:31 AM
So the semifinalists:

Fed, Haas, Youzhny, Gasquet.

With the exception of Gasquet, the other three are well over 30.

emotion
08-09-2013, 03:44 PM
There were 0/16 one handed backhands in the Rogers Cup RO16

Serverer
08-09-2013, 03:47 PM
This was the real wimbledon