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Nadal will now steamroll the slams...

tests
06-13-2012, 05:52 AM
I used to be a nadal hater... but man, does this guy deserve respect. After losing 3 straight grand slam finals to djokovic, he came out with the goods and beat the djoker in the french open. As we all know, the AUS open could have gone nadal's way.... same with the USO..

To be honest, i can see nadal racking up 4-5 slams from here onward. He will win wimbledon (djokovic doesn't seem to be the monster he was last year), and the USO is up for grabs between him and djokovic. Djokovic is the only player that can stop him (federer is hopeless, potro is injured..) and djokovic might start to slightly decline (he has shown signs of it). Murray is basically just another turkey to nadal.

Nadal is going to have 13-14 slams by next july. He will most likely come within one slam of roger (maybe even tying him). There is literally NO ONE in the horizon who is going to stop this domination between djokovic/nadal (and used to be federer).

I know that nadal has won a majority of his slams at the FO (7/11)... but with his new found confidence, i can see him STEAMROLLING through the remaining grand slams.

uxyzapenje
06-13-2012, 06:00 AM
Whut? God, this site has so many gloryhunters and bandwagoners. OMG he has won RG (like he never did it before) he will win next 5 Slams for shure. And just a huge fing :facepalm: at 'Djokovic is starting to decline'. Guy entered FIRST RG FINAL IN HIS CAREER and he is in decline? And Tsonga or Berdych could beat Nadal (as well as Novak) on grass, Delpo could beat him at USO or someone else could have a great run. Go watch Nadal lose in Halle to Berdych or Fed

tests
06-13-2012, 06:04 AM
Whut? God, this site has so many gloryhunters and bandwagoners. OMG he has won RG (like he never did it before) he will win next 5 Slams for shure. And just a huge fing :facepalm: at 'Djokovic is starting to decline'. Guy entered FIRST RG FINAL IN HIS CAREER and he is in decline? And Tsonga or Berdych could beat Nadal (as well as Novak) on grass, Delpo could beat him at USO or someone else could have a great run. Go watch Nadal lose in Halle to Berdych or Fed

Maybe you are right that the novak starting to decline comment was an exaggeration... but novak would not have lost to nadal in the FO last year is what i was trying to say.


Anyhow, berdych/tsonga won't beat nadal on grass. Djokovic can (and he has), but i believe his performance last year was an anomaly (lets see if he can prove me wrong ;))

Nadal won't lose to federer ever again.

Topspindoctor
06-13-2012, 06:11 AM
Gloryhunting at its finest

moon language
06-13-2012, 06:13 AM
Whut? God, this site has so many gloryhunters and bandwagoners. OMG he has won RG (like he never did it before) he will win next 5 Slams for shure. And just a huge fing :facepalm: at 'Djokovic is starting to decline'. Guy entered FIRST RG FINAL IN HIS CAREER and he is in decline? And Tsonga or Berdych could beat Nadal (as well as Novak) on grass, Delpo could beat him at USO or someone else could have a great run. Go watch Nadal lose in Halle to Berdych or Fed

Nadal will probably lose to someone like that or even someone lower ranked at Halle. It won't be indicative of much just as his Queens results never were, it's a tuneup.

uxyzapenje
06-13-2012, 06:16 AM
Maybe you are right that the novak starting to decline comment was an exaggeration... but novak would not have lost to nadal in the FO last year is what i was trying to say.


Anyhow, berdych/tsonga won't beat nadal on grass. Djokovic can (and he has), but i believe his performance last year was an anomaly (lets see if he can prove me wrong ;))

Nadal won't lose to federer ever again.

And why won't he lose to Fed? As i remember, Fed beat him 2 out the last 3 times they played.
Nadal and Djokovic are the guys to beat, but they will for sure lose some matches to other guys. It may be on a slam as well. They can have an off day or someone can have a huge day, Isner serving lights out (IW comes to mind). Fed can beat Rafa when Rafa is not in form and he is. In form Rafa beats him, yes, but you never know what can happen, I just hate people saying things based on 1 match or 1 tournament. What if Novak won the RG, could you garantee that Rafa won't win W or USO? Any form has to stop sooner or later, and I can't imagine Rafa playing whole season in top form, bcs, well, he never could do that. He allways had eather a slow start to the season or bad season ending

Nr 1 Fan
06-13-2012, 06:20 AM
Maybe you are right that the novak starting to decline comment was an exaggeration... but novak would not have lost to nadal in the FO last year is what i was trying to say.


Anyhow, berdych/tsonga won't beat nadal on grass. Djokovic can (and he has), but i believe his performance last year was an anomaly (lets see if he can prove me wrong ;))

Nadal won't lose to federer ever again.

He can still lose to Federer as proven in IW this year , but just not in slams. I am sure that's what you meant though.

stewietennis
06-13-2012, 06:26 AM
I used to be a nadal hater...

This may be a troll post

MariaV
06-13-2012, 06:37 AM
A huge :facepalm: indeed.
Now watch until Nadal loses in Halle, then "he'll never win a tennis match in his life and should retire immediately" etc etc. :help: :help:

tripwires
06-13-2012, 06:44 AM
Nadal will win 20 slams before he retires.

bokehlicious
06-13-2012, 06:45 AM
Nadal should retire for his fans...

MariaV
06-13-2012, 06:51 AM
Nadal should retire for his fans...

You know your stuff! :yeah: :kiss:

tests
06-13-2012, 06:52 AM
He can still lose to Federer as proven in IW this year , but just not in slams. I am sure that's what you meant though.

yes this is exactly what i meant

ballbasher101
06-13-2012, 07:32 AM
Tests you traitor. Nadal does not deserve respect. The man is bad for tennis. His game is not attractive to watch, he will smash the slam record but I will never be a fan of that man. He and Toni have tarnished the sport in my view. Their win at all cost policy sucks big time.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 07:33 AM
I can see at least 3 or 4 guys who are favorites against Rafa in USO. Besides he would be death after the Olympics this year. My hopes are that he can survive the first week at Wimbledon and then anything can happens there.

henke007
06-13-2012, 07:39 AM
Its a long time now untill next Monte Carlo

GSMnadal
06-13-2012, 07:45 AM
I can see at least 3 or 4 guys who are favorites against Rafa in USO. Besides he would be death after the Olympics this year. My hopes are that he can survive the first week at Wimbledon and then anything can happens there.

Favourites is a big word, 3 or 4 have a chance to beat him, but it's not bigger than 50%

Only one should be Djokovic

mikkemus23
06-13-2012, 07:47 AM
No.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 08:29 AM
Favourites is a big word, 3 or 4 have a chance to beat him, but it's not bigger than 50%

Only one should be Djokovic

Federer, Djkovic, Del Potro are favourites against Nadal for me in USO, and more this year. Murray, Tsonga, Berdych or even Isner/Raonic can give him an upset too. Even Ferrer, Roddick or Verdasco can beat him if they play one of the matches of their live. I assume Solderling would not be in shape.

delboy
06-13-2012, 08:58 AM
Nadal should retire for his fans...

/thread

ServeVolley
06-13-2012, 09:16 AM
Lulz. Nadal wins one slam (for all we know he might have beaten Djokovic there last year too), and it's all, "He'll break Roger's record!", "Wimbledon and US Open are a lock!", "Calendar slam next year!"

Back in reality, he's yet to beat Djokovic off clay (or for that matter win a title off clay since October 2010), and there's still this dude called Federer who, prior to Rome, looked set to reclaim his #1 ranking.

Let's just wait and see what happens, eh? ;)

Foxy
06-13-2012, 09:42 AM
Lulz. Nadal wins one slam (for all we know he might have beaten Djokovic there last year too), and it's all, "He'll break Roger's record!", "Wimbledon and US Open are a lock!", "Calendar slam next year!"

Back in reality, he's yet to beat Djokovic off clay (or for that matter win a title off clay since October 2010), and there's still this dude called Federer who, prior to Rome, looked set to reclaim his #1 ranking.

Let's just wait and see what happens, eh? ;)

First let Djokovic reaches a final off clay again then we will have a conversation. Thanks.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 09:43 AM
Federer, Djkovic, Del Potro are favourites against Nadal for me in USO, and more this year. Murray, Tsonga, Berdych or even Isner/Raonic can give him an upset too. Even Ferrer, Roddick or Verdasco can beat him if they play one of the matches of their live. I assume Solderling would not be in shape.

This. US Open is not a Nadal friendly tournament. I don't think Ferrer, Roddick, or Verdasco can touch him there anymore. But the other guys you mentioned are threats. Djokovic and Del Potro are favorites against him. Federer I don't think can beat him now though. Not at a slam. Those days are over.

Sophocles
06-13-2012, 10:10 AM
Nadal won't lose to federer ever again.

When have I heard that before?

ServeVolley
06-13-2012, 10:14 AM
This. US Open is not a Nadal friendly tournament. I don't think Ferrer, Roddick, or Verdasco can touch him there anymore. But the other guys you mentioned are threats. Djokovic and Del Potro are favorites against him. Federer I don't think can beat him now though. Not at a slam. Those days are over.

They've only played at AO and RG since 2009. I'd favour Nadal on those courts, certainly, but Wimby and USO are a different story...

Sophocles
06-13-2012, 10:15 AM
Over-excited Nadulltards need to remember that Nadull did in fact win R.G. last year before going on to lose 3 consecutive slam finals to Djokovic. In fact Nadull has won R.G. every year but one since 2005 and only once has he gone on to win the next 2 slams - & that was back when Djoker had never beaten Nadal in a slam. The idea that this routine clay victory portends dazzling success elsewhere is preposterous.

Matt01
06-13-2012, 01:06 PM
Nadal should retire for his fans...


For his haters you mean? He won't do you that favor since he will keep winning and make your fave cry again.

Fireballer
06-13-2012, 01:11 PM
Federer, Djkovic, Del Potro are favourites against Nadal for me in USO, and more this year. Murray, Tsonga, Berdych or even Isner/Raonic can give him an upset too. Even Ferrer, Roddick or Verdasco can beat him if they play one of the matches of their live. I assume Solderling would not be in shape.

LOL no they are not.Nadal is better than both of them and at Slams they have no chances.Djoker is the only favorite against Nadal on hardcourts

First let Djokovic reaches a final off clay again then we will have a conversation. Thanks.

what?fist let Nadal win something off Clay you mug.Djoker is reaching finals and winning titles on every surface like the real number 1

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 01:18 PM
LOL no they are not.Nadal is better than both of them and at Slams they have no chances.Djoker is the only favorite against Nadal on hardcourts



what?fist let Nadal win something off Clay you mug.Djoker is reaching finals and winning titles on every surface like the real number 1

I want to see your boy in his 2012 version facing Del Pony & Olderer at USO this year badly :devil:

Wing Man Frank
06-13-2012, 01:24 PM
People must have been watching a different final to me.

The moment Djokovic gets Nadal on any sort of court with a bit of speed, Nadal hasn't got a hope.

Johnny Groove
06-13-2012, 01:32 PM
I doubt he will steamroll. He is the favorite for Wimbledon as of right now, actually Djokovic is, but things can change in tennis very quickly.

It all depends on the draw at Wimbledon, Rafa is most vulnerable actually in the first week when the grass is still there.

Looner
06-13-2012, 01:37 PM
I doubt he will steamroll. He is the favorite for Wimbledon as of right now, actually Djokovic is, but things can change in tennis very quickly.

It all depends on the draw at Wimbledon, Rafa is most vulnerable actually in the first week when the grass is still there.

Classic :haha:.

RagingLamb
06-13-2012, 01:50 PM
For a while there (right before the second rain delay) everyone was convinced Djokovic was going to beat Nadal at RG, and the question was whether Nadal will win another slam, now it's who's even going to stop this guy??

Now that they won't be playing on Nadal's favourite surface anymore, Djokovic will regain the advantage.

I favour him to take Wimbledon and the USO.

Caesar1844
06-13-2012, 02:13 PM
I doubt he will steamroll. He is the favorite for Wimbledon as of right now, actually Djokovic is, but things can change in tennis very quickly.

It all depends on the draw at Wimbledon, Rafa is most vulnerable actually in the first week when the grass is still there.
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rafa_maniac
06-13-2012, 02:14 PM
People must have been watching a different final to me.

The moment Djokovic gets Nadal on any sort of court with a bit of speed, Nadal hasn't got a hope.

Eh? Nole only got the edge on Rafa in the RG final when the court slowed to a pulp.

Quadruple Tree
06-13-2012, 02:26 PM
For a while there (right before the second rain delay) everyone was convinced Djokovic was going to beat Nadal at RG, and the question was whether Nadal will win another slam, now it's who's even going to stop this guy??

Now that they won't be playing on Nadal's favourite surface anymore, Djokovic will regain the advantage.

I favour him to take Wimbledon and the USO.

Nadal beat Djokovic on clay. Therefore, Nadal will now be able to beat Djokovic on every surface. How can you argue with this airtight logic?

peribsen
06-13-2012, 02:51 PM
Last year I said that people were reading too much out of Nole's successive wins over Rafa (all deserved and all great, to be sure, but hardly the end to Rafa). This year the hyperbole seems to be heading in the opposite direction.

What RG 2012 has shown is that Rafa has won RG 2012; all posters who thought Rafa was dead meat have been proven wrong. But whatever happens next is up for grabs. The fact that Rafa can beat Nole in a slam, and may do so again, is a far cry from expecting him to simply bulldoze Nole in any future slam. Nole is not going anywhere, and he has the game to be a very dangerous rival for Nadal.

Relax, and enjoy.

BauerAlmeida
06-13-2012, 03:01 PM
LOL, he beat him in Nadal's best slam. Nadal stil hasn't beat beat Djokovic outisde clay in the last year and half and he is supposed to be the favorite in the USO??

Wimbledon is 50/50 but Djokovic will be the favorite in the USO and Australia probably (and Nadal in RG, of course)

Wing Man Frank
06-13-2012, 03:03 PM
Eh? Nole only got the edge on Rafa in the RG final when the court slowed to a pulp.

Only because Rafa's sole tactic of using heavy spin disappeared.

In the previous two sets Djokovic hit about 20 shots that would have been winners on a hard court. Once he's been on a quicker surface and serves a bit better Nadal will go back to being his bitch once again.

GOAT = Fed
06-13-2012, 03:06 PM
brb Nadal wins one slam in 12 months and now he's on target for 20+
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evilmindbulgaria
06-13-2012, 03:35 PM
brb Nadal wins one slam in 12 months and now he's on target for 20+
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Is that Jackie Chan :lol:

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 05:13 PM
Nadal beat Djokovic on clay. Therefore, Nadal will now be able to beat Djokovic on every surface. How can you argue with this airtight logic?

Well, to hear some people on those boards tell it. All the surfaces play the same now because everything has been slowed down to RG speeds... blah blah blah... court homogenization... blah blah blah. So using their logic, this statement is accurate and logical.

Back in reality where the rest of us live however, Djokovic is the favorite on hard courts by a wide margin IMO. On grass, I actually think this could favor Nadal right now given Djokovic's current form and Nadal's recent victory. But we'll see what happens. I am hoping to see these two face off in the final as I think it will be a tight and competitive match.

nick the greek
06-13-2012, 05:18 PM
I used to be a nadal hater... but man, does this guy deserve respect. After losing 3 straight grand slam finals to djokovic, he came out with the goods and beat the djoker in the french open. As we all know, the AUS open could have gone nadal's way.... same with the USO..

To be honest, i can see nadal racking up 4-5 slams from here onward. He will win wimbledon (djokovic doesn't seem to be the monster he was last year), and the USO is up for grabs between him and djokovic. Djokovic is the only player that can stop him (federer is hopeless, potro is injured..) and djokovic might start to slightly decline (he has shown signs of it). Murray is basically just another turkey to nadal.

Nadal is going to have 13-14 slams by next july. He will most likely come within one slam of roger (maybe even tying him). There is literally NO ONE in the horizon who is going to stop this domination between djokovic/nadal (and used to be federer).

I know that nadal has won a majority of his slams at the FO (7/11)... but with his new found confidence, i can see him STEAMROLLING through the remaining grand slams.

Cool story bro.Throw in a fat guy,a tree and you got a Xmas.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 05:19 PM
Nole dominated Nadal in that third set. For some unknown reason he gave away the first and second sets, and then gave away the 4th set as well. The FACT remains is that when Djokovic plays his best tennis, Nadal has no hope.

tests
06-13-2012, 05:21 PM
Nole dominated Nadal in that third set. For some unknown reason he gave away the first and second sets, and then gave away the 4th set as well. The FACT remains is that when Djokovic plays his best tennis, Nadal has no hope.

I completely, wholeheartedly, agree with this statement. When djokovic is playing his A+ game, he will beat nadal on all hardcourts.

For wimbledon, however, i think djokovics A+ game vs Nadals A+ game is 50/50.

For clay, id probably give an edge to nadal.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 05:27 PM
Nole dominated Nadal in that third set. For some unknown reason he gave away the first and second sets, and then gave away the 4th set as well. The FACT remains is that when Djokovic plays his best tennis, Nadal has no hope.

When the court was clay Nadal work over Nole. When the rain turned clay in mud Nole flat strokes were more effective while Rafa's spin vanished. When the court on Monday turned clay again match back on track. It's not difficult to understand if you actually have eyes.

tektonac
06-13-2012, 05:29 PM
Eh? Nole only got the edge on Rafa in the RG final when the court slowed to a pulp.

nole had most of his winners during that period. i had a feeling he was able to hit through nadal with more ease.

BauerAlmeida
06-13-2012, 05:31 PM
I completely, wholeheartedly, agree with this statement. When djokovic is playing his A+ game, he will beat nadal on all hardcourts.

For wimbledon, however, i think djokovics A+ game vs Nadals A+ game is 50/50.

For clay, id probably give an edge to nadal.

I think Djokovic is the favorite anywhere outside clay (he beat him easily in Wimby last year) and Nadal is the favorite on clay.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 05:32 PM
When the court was clay Nadal work over Nole. When the rain turned clay in mud Nole flat strokes were more effective while Rafa's spin vanished. When the court on Monday turned clay again match back on track. It's not difficult to understand if you actually have eyes.

I might be mistaken, but was it raining last year during Rome final? :confused:

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 05:34 PM
nole had most of his winners during that period. i had a feeling he was able to hit through nadal with more ease.

Yes, Nole's flat strokes made the ball slip very well in the mud and difficult Nadal defense because the surface was slippery. Rafa topspin though became harmless.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 05:35 PM
I might be mistaken, but was it raining last year during Rome final? :confused:

When Nole won?

Leo
06-13-2012, 05:39 PM
First let Djokovic reaches a final off clay again then we will have a conversation. Thanks.

:confused: What? I don't get it, he won his last non-clay tournament: Miami.

Leo
06-13-2012, 05:41 PM
Nole dominated Nadal in that third set. For some unknown reason he gave away the first and second sets, and then gave away the 4th set as well. The FACT remains is that when Djokovic plays his best tennis, Nadal has no hope.

This.

When Nole won?

To answer: NO, it did not rain.

Corey Feldman
06-13-2012, 05:41 PM
well the surfaces and draws sure wont slow his chances down

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 05:44 PM
^^ True, rain delay in Roma was this year. I guess I begin to suffer Alzheimer's.

But the fact remains. When Nole and Rafa played over clay in RG, the later was clearly better

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 06:11 PM
Nole dominated Nadal in that third set. For some unknown reason he gave away the first and second sets, and then gave away the 4th set as well. The FACT remains is that when Djokovic plays his best tennis, Nadal has no hope.

That is complete and utter fan boy rubbish.

Nadal is a better clay court player than Novak. If you think otherwise, you're a biased fool who knows nothing about tennis. I suppose Nadal is a better grass court player than Federer because he won their last encounter at Wimbledon? Ridiculous.

The only semblance of truth in what you just wrote is on hard courts where I do in fact believe that Novak's best is better than Nadal's best.

And as a previous sane poster mentioned, on grass I believe they are closer to 50/50.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 06:16 PM
That is complete and utter fan boy rubbish.

Nadal is a better clay court player than Novak. If you think otherwise, you're a biased fool who knows nothing about tennis. I suppose Nadal is a better grass court player than Federer because he won their last encounter at Wimbledon? Ridiculous.

The only semblance of truth in what you just wrote is on hard courts where I do in fact believe that Novak's best is better than Nadal's best.

And as a previous sane poster mentioned, on grass I believe they are closer to 50/50.

Nadal currently IS better than Federer, even on grass. Federer is not at his peak, just as Nadal isn't at his peak. I laughed when people suggested Nadal was playing peak tennis after getting to the final of RG this year.

Novak played one of his worst matches this year and still took Nadal to 4 sets.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 06:24 PM
Nadal currently IS better than Federer, even on grass. Federer is not at his peak, just as Nadal isn't at his peak. I laughed when people suggested Nadal was playing peak tennis after getting to the final of RG this year.

Novak played one of his worst matches this year and still took Nadal to 4 sets.


Nadal is 26. Novak is 25. Same generation. This isn't a case of Nadal being old and Novak being young. Age is not an issue here. They are both in the prime of their careers.

Novak is a very good clay court player. But Nadal is probably the best clay courter of all time. There's not a snowballs chance in hell that Novak's best clay game is better than Nadal's best clay court game.

And to think otherwise is to simply ignore reality.

It would be like me saying Nadal has a better hard court game than Novak the next time Nadal beats him on a hard court. It's silly.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Nadal certainly isn't in the prime of his career. It will be apparent after another year of only getting one slam. His prime was 2008 and 2010. That is over.

Clay Death
06-13-2012, 06:43 PM
clay warrior does not move well enough on hard courts. give others the edge there folks.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 06:44 PM
Nadal currently IS better than Federer, even on grass. Federer is not at his peak, just as Nadal isn't at his peak. I laughed when people suggested Nadal was playing peak tennis after getting to the final of RG this year.

Novak played one of his worst matches this year and still took Nadal to 4 sets.

Nadal won in Montecarlo, Roma and Roland Garros this year. He won on clay against Nole always except Roma 2011 but how Nole got this final we must forget all his other defeats. What a fangirl :o

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 06:46 PM
Nadal certainly isn't in the prime of his career. It will be apparent after another year of only getting one slam. His prime was 2008 and 2010. That is over.

And you can argue Novak's prime was 2011. And it will be apparent that is over and done with when he doesn't win Wimbledon and the US Open both this year. He's already lost 6 times this year and he's losing the ATP point race to Nadal.

So what's your point exactly? Because you aren't making a good case here that Novak is in his prime while Nadal is past his prime.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 06:58 PM
Of course Novak isn't playing his best tennis this year. I never claimed he was playing peak tennis this RG (as evidenced by being taken to 5 sets against Tsonga). My point was that if Nole played his 2011 tennis we would have a new RG champion.

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 07:03 PM
No way Nadal is winning anything till clay next year.
Although, Davis Cup, maybe :)
Nadaltards are getting excited after Nadal won on French Open:haha:

Do you just created a second account just to say this? Man, oh man.

Fireballer
06-13-2012, 07:04 PM
And you can argue Novak's prime was 2011. And it will be apparent that is over and done with when he doesn't win Wimbledon and the US Open both this year. He's already lost 6 times this year and he's losing the ATP point race to Nadal.

So what's your point exactly? Because you aren't making a good case here that Novak is in his prime while Nadal is past his prime.

every player has the same prime.since the age of 23-27.That's when you are the best.Now players peaks differ.Some peak at 19 some at 26.But prime is always the same

Kiedis
06-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Of course Novak isn't playing his best tennis this year. I never claimed he was playing peak tennis this RG (as evidenced by being taken to 5 sets against Tsonga). My point was that if Nole played his 2011 tennis we would have a new RG champion.

Sure mate. Are you referring to the splendid game that your boy gave us in the 2011 edition of Roland Garros?

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Of course Novak isn't playing his best tennis this year. I never claimed he was playing peak tennis this RG (as evidenced by being taken to 5 sets against Tsonga). My point was that if Nole played his 2011 tennis we would have a new RG champion.

And if Nadal hadn't missed that backhand at 4-2 and 30-15 in the Australian open, Nadal would be shooting for the calendar year grand slam this year. Blah blah blah.

You can "what-if" yourself to the moon but it doesn't change what actually happened WHICH IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

Novak beat Nadal at the Australian Open because he was the better player. Nadal beat Novak at the French because he was the better player. End of story. It's not rocket science.

hipolymer
06-13-2012, 07:13 PM
Sure mate. Are you referring to the splendid game that your boy gave us in the 2011 edition of Roland Garros?

At least he served above 50% at times. :shrug:

Nadal beat Novak at the French because he was the better player.

And because he was the better complainer. ;)

Jamoz
06-13-2012, 07:14 PM
True Steamroller this Nadal, one slam per year and that too in clay.

ahadabans
06-13-2012, 07:23 PM
And because he was the better complainer. ;)

I don't get it dude. I've given plenty of props to Novak. Yet you refuse to concede anything to Nadal. Do you hate him that much?

The guy has won 7 frikin RG titles and yet you disrespect him on that surface. It's moronic.

It's equivalent to me calling Federer a grass court mug back in 2009 after he won 6 Wimbledon titles. I mean, who does that?

Clay Death
06-13-2012, 07:41 PM
every player has the same prime.since the age of 23-27.That's when you are the best.Now players peaks differ.Some peak at 19 some at 26.But prime is always the same



bullshit.

duarte_a
12-27-2012, 12:34 PM
I used to be a nadal hater... but man, does this guy deserve respect. After losing 3 straight grand slam finals to djokovic, he came out with the goods and beat the djoker in the french open. As we all know, the AUS open could have gone nadal's way.... same with the USO..

To be honest, i can see nadal racking up 4-5 slams from here onward. He will win wimbledon (djokovic doesn't seem to be the monster he was last year), and the USO is up for grabs between him and djokovic. Djokovic is the only player that can stop him (federer is hopeless, potro is injured..) and djokovic might start to slightly decline (he has shown signs of it). Murray is basically just another turkey to nadal.

Nadal is going to have 13-14 slams by next july. He will most likely come within one slam of roger (maybe even tying him). There is literally NO ONE in the horizon who is going to stop this domination between djokovic/nadal (and used to be federer).

I know that nadal has won a majority of his slams at the FO (7/11)... but with his new found confidence, i can see him STEAMROLLING through the remaining grand slams.

:haha:

GSMnadal
12-27-2012, 12:39 PM
This only didn't happen because of injury, completely reasonable prediction

Federer in 2
12-27-2012, 12:58 PM
This only didn't happen because of injury, completely reasonable prediction

Stop, it's sad..

Corey Feldman
12-27-2012, 01:13 PM
Kiedis has been nowhere to be seen since Wimbledon

Sri
12-27-2012, 01:18 PM
This only didn't happen because of injury, completely reasonable prediction
Humblito can't lose unless injured. ;-)

General Suburbia
12-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Nadal is the king of clay, not tennis. And even then, did you see the final? You could definitely see the fear in Nadal's eyes when Djokovic started to claw his way back into the match. That double fault on match point was SUCH a blessing for Nadal.

Mountaindewslave
12-27-2012, 04:11 PM
Nadal is the king of clay, not tennis. And even then, did you see the final? You could definitely see the fear in Nadal's eyes when Djokovic started to claw his way back into the match. That double fault on match point was SUCH a blessing for Nadal.

could see the nerves in his eyes because the court was playing horribly, you can't play clay court tennis when it's wet :facepalm: there's nothing Nadal has to fear when playing any player on clay, however the weather is a different story
he's definitely not the 'king' of tennis, but he has been for brief periods of times. people seem to scoff off his Wimbledon titles and Australian and US but it's not like they were imaginary wins
this thread in retrospect does seem pretty ironic but who knows what will happen in 2013 and beyond :devil:

Mark Lenders
12-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Although obviously fanboyish, not that unreasonable a prediction at least if we consider the Wimbledon final was contested by Murray and Federer and the USO won by Murray, two players Nadal has thoroughly owned at Grand Slams throughout the years and has a solid mental stranglehold against in the biggest matches.

TigerTim
12-27-2012, 05:56 PM
Its a long time now untill next Monte Carlo

The correct answer.

Mr. Oracle
12-28-2012, 06:02 AM
Wow, Djoker's chances of snagging his first RG are looking a lot better now, considering how long it will take Nadal to get back into top form. While I really want him back healthy and fired up, hopefully he'll postpone this until after RG :drink:. With him out of the way, I predict another comfortable straight sets victory over Roger. Can't see Mandy troubling anyone at this tourney. Leave your finger at home Rogee.

Alex999
12-28-2012, 07:27 AM
don't know. what if Nadal comes back fresh and wins all slams next year? 2009 he was injured ... then in 2010 he comes back winning 3 slams, beating Djokovic at the USO (NOT in a million years I could have seen this happening) ... Nadal serving like a monster(serving one match like he never served and probably never will serve again in his life)...

MTwEeZi
12-28-2012, 07:32 AM
don't know. what if Nadal comes back fresh and wins all slams next year? 2009 he was injured ... then in 2010 he comes back winning 3 slams, beating Djokovic at the USO (NOT in a million years I could have seen this happening) ... Nadal serving like a monster(serving one match like he never served and probably never will serve again in his life)...

He served like that at Wimbledon last year.

viruzzz
12-28-2012, 07:33 AM
don't know. what if Nadal comes back fresh and wins all slams next year? 2009 he was injured ... then in 2010 he comes back winning 3 slams, beating Djokovic at the USO (NOT in a million years I could have seen this happening) ... Nadal serving like a monster(serving one match like he never served and probably never will serve again in his life)...

This. I'd NEVER had imagined Nadal could serve like that.
He isn't a good server, his serve is one of the worst in the top 10, just next to Ferrer.

That tournment he served REALLY GOOD.

I can't understand why he couldn't do it again, I mean... If you did it before, that means you can do it... Or not, it seems.

GSMnadal
12-28-2012, 07:34 AM
He served like that at Wimbledon last year.

Say what now? He served ok to good, but nowhere near USO 10. His 2nd serve was non existent

MTwEeZi
12-28-2012, 07:36 AM
Say what now? He served ok to good, but nowhere near USO 10. His 2nd serve was non existent

I remember it being pretty good :confused: Best I've seen in a while

Mr. Oracle
12-28-2012, 10:06 AM
don't know. what if Nadal comes back fresh and wins all slams next year? 2009 he was injured ... then in 2010 he comes back winning 3 slams, beating Djokovic at the USO (NOT in a million years I could have seen this happening) ... Nadal serving like a monster(serving one match like he never served and probably never will serve again in his life)...

That would definitely make for an exciting and dramatic year of tennis, kind of what like Rocky did except no russians or black dudes to beat !

Roy Emerson
12-28-2012, 10:09 AM
The only slam he might win from now on is RG.