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Taking a look at the boys French Open

green25814
06-05-2012, 10:26 AM
Top three seeds are

1) Luke Saville (Aus)
2) Gianluigi Quinzi (ITA)
3) Liam Broady (GBR)

If you follow the juniors at all, you'd know that all three are very talented. I think they all have a possibility of becoming a top player in the future, and it will be interesting to see which one prevails. My pick is Quinzi, the guy is a superstar in the making, provided his body continues to grow.

Chase Visa
06-05-2012, 10:27 AM
Quinzi being the 2nd seed when he's 16 is pretty h4x.

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 10:30 AM
Broady, because he will be the first Britain to win a Slam since Perry.

Nr 1 Fan
06-05-2012, 10:32 AM
There has been some talk about Quinzi lately, he must be good. Good to finally see GB have some talent too.

green25814
06-05-2012, 10:32 AM
Quinzi being the 2nd seed when he's 16 is pretty h4x.

Yeah, dude is like a mini Nadal. Whisper it quietly though.

Time Violation
06-05-2012, 10:36 AM
Quinzi being the 2nd seed when he's 16 is pretty h4x.

Lol, now that you mention it, didn't people say exactly the same about Tomic? :)

Nr 1 Fan
06-05-2012, 10:40 AM
Yeah, dude is like a mini Nadal. Whisper it quietly though.

Is he physyically ahead of his age like him? Cause Nadal was a beast at the age of 17 already.

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 10:41 AM
Noah Rubin (USA, 1996) made 1/8.. that's also great

Sorry for mistake

Li Ching Yuen
06-05-2012, 10:48 AM
Broady's got a monster lefty forehand.
Saville is rock solid, very good foundation of his game.
Quinzi is a clay-courter.

Super Djoker
06-05-2012, 10:50 AM
Just had a look at Quinzi,s Junior results ! WOW ! And only 16 ! It,s a big step from juniors to seniors thought ! Broady with all due respect has been hopeless since Wimbledon last year ! He needs to stop playing juniors ! I mean he,s 18 What,s the point ! He,s stiffling his own development !

Super Djoker
06-05-2012, 10:52 AM
Broady's got a monster lefty forehand.
Saville is rock solid, very good foundation of his game.
Quinzi is a clay-courter.

They said that about Nadal , look what happened there !

Dmitry Verdasco
06-05-2012, 10:58 AM
Saville is Australian he'll struggle to make TOP 100.

green25814
06-05-2012, 11:00 AM
Is he physyically ahead of his age like him? Cause Nadal was a beast at the age of 17 already.

No, I said mini-Nadal, I don't think anyone has been at Nadal's level by 17 before

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 11:01 AM
Don't forget about Thiago Monteiro.. he won Futures last year and one few weeks ago. He can take title too

lucyfur
06-05-2012, 11:12 AM
Whatever happened to last years champion?

Looner
06-05-2012, 11:13 AM
I'm sure they're very good but until they hit the male circuit, you can't really tell. I hope to see someone challenging the ND, RN and AM soon as it's getting quite boring.

Allez
06-05-2012, 11:13 AM
Broady, because he will be the first Britain to win a Slam since Perry.

Nasty

lucyfur
06-05-2012, 11:18 AM
Didn't Murray win a junior slam?

Allez
06-05-2012, 11:21 AM
Uso

MatchFederer
06-05-2012, 11:27 AM
Checking them out, eh? You naughty naughty boy.

MatchFederer
06-05-2012, 11:39 AM
Saville is a very smart player on the court. I certainly see a future in him as he seems so grounded and he's sure in his game - he almost always plays the right shot.

Broady is quite athletic and has a terrific forehand from the looks of things.

Johnny Groove
06-05-2012, 11:51 AM
Noah Rubin (USA, 1998) made 1/8.. that's amazing

Saw him at the USTA National Clay Courts in Delray in the finals of the 16's vs. Luca Corinteli. Rubin is undersized, but very crafty. Sneaky power, trains with John McEnroe in New York I believe.

Cocky like Fognini took, a very noticable strut.

Whatever happened to last years champion?

Bjorn Fratangelo is playing futures. Doing well too, for his first year on the circuit. One year ago he was ranked 1416 in the world and now he is up to 695 :yeah:

MachineGun
06-05-2012, 11:51 AM
Liam is a very talented dude. I hope he will do wonders when on the ATP.

Snowwy
06-05-2012, 11:54 AM
Nishioka lost today.

MatchFederer
06-05-2012, 11:55 AM
Nishioka lost today.

Is that the dude who hits reverse flip trick-shot backhands?

Chase Visa
06-05-2012, 12:07 PM
Nishioka was the guy that made a final at some Futures tournament last year - and it's worth noting he's 18 months younger than I am.

The guy who beat him - Peliwo - has some fans too.

DanaKz
06-05-2012, 12:08 PM
Whatever happened to last years champion?

Strugling.

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 12:11 PM
Didn't Murray win a junior slam?

So he HAS won a set in a slam final

Eat it haters :lol:

DanaKz
06-05-2012, 12:12 PM
So he HAS won a set in a slam final

Eat it haters :lol:

Well, Monfils won 3 Slams. GOAT :worship:

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 12:16 PM
Well, Monfils won 3 Slams. GOAT :worship:

Now that is skilled. Safin? Hewitt? Roddick? Eat your heart out bitches :haha:

DanaKz
06-05-2012, 12:16 PM
RG boys champions, last ten
2001 Carlos Cuadrado
2002 Richard Gasquet
2003 Stanislas Wawrinka
2004 Gaël Monfils
2005 Marin Čilić
2006 Martin Kližan
2007 Vladimir Ignatic
2008 Yang Tsung-hua
2009 Daniel Berta
2010 Agustín Velotti
2011 Bjorn Fratangelo

Funny list, since 2006 champions showed almost nothing on ATP level.

DanaKz
06-05-2012, 12:22 PM
AO
2001 Janko Tipsarević
2002 Clement Morel
2003 Marcos Baghdatis
2004 Gaël Monfils
2005 Donald Young
2006 Alexandre Sidorenko
2007 Brydan Klein
2008 Bernard Tomić
2009 Yuki Bhambri
2010 Tiago Fernandes
2011 Jiří Veselý
2012 Luke Saville

Wimbledon
2001 Roman Valent
2002 Todd Reid
2003 Florin Mergea
2004 Gaël Monfils
2005 Jérémy Chardy
2006 Thiemo de Bakker
2007 Donald Young
2008 Grigor Dimitrov
2009 Andrey Kuznetsov
2010 Márton Fucsovics
2011 Luke Saville

USO
2001 Gilles Müller
2002 Richard Gasquet
2003 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
2005 Ryan Sweeting
2006 Dušan Lojda
2007 Ričardas Berankis
2008 Grigor Dimitrov
2009 Bernard Tomic
2010 Jack Sock
2011 Oliver Golding

Chase Visa
06-05-2012, 12:24 PM
Lol, now that you mention it, didn't people say exactly the same about Tomic? :)

He's ranked in the top 30 (a lot better than his contemporaries) and has made a QF at a Slam....I don't see your point.

Chase Visa
06-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Apart from Monfils, Wimbledon winners have flopped big time.

Winners in the first half of the noughties weren't too bad.

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Wow Gael almost won the calendar slam as well. Novak who?

Nr 1 Fan
06-05-2012, 12:31 PM
Noah Rubin (USA, 1998) made 1/8.. that's amazing

Wow, is that true? That's just sick :eek:

Nr 1 Fan
06-05-2012, 12:34 PM
Did Rafa ever win a slam with the juniors? Probably not, he just directly went for the pro tournament.

Johnny Groove
06-05-2012, 12:35 PM
Did Rafa ever win a slam with the juniors? Probably not, he just directly went for the pro tournament.

Just one junior Wimbledon SF.

Allez
06-05-2012, 12:36 PM
I really like Liam Broady's bad ass attitude!

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01336/liambroady_1336854a.jpg

Nr 1 Fan
06-05-2012, 12:37 PM
Just one junior Wimbledon SF.

Thanks, must have been at the age of 15 or something then?

Johnny Groove
06-05-2012, 12:40 PM
Thanks, must have been at the age of 15 or something then?

He'd just turned 16 I believe. Lost to Lamine Ouahab.

Chase Visa
06-05-2012, 12:42 PM
Did Rafa ever win a slam with the juniors? Probably not, he just directly went for the pro tournament.

Yeah, he was like 15 when he started playing against men.

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 01:02 PM
Wow, is that true? That's just sick :eek:

Its impressive, no doubt. Last year only players born in 1993 and 1994 made 1/8 so this is really great

Roamed
06-05-2012, 01:07 PM
Noah Rubin (USA, 1998) made 1/8.. that's amazing

I saw on another website that he was 16 years old, not 14, don't know which is right but it's still impressive though.

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 01:11 PM
I saw on another website that he was 16 years old, not 14, don't know which is right but it's still impressive though.

No, for sure he is born in 1998. I mean, ITF is only source I can trust.. if they are wrong, we all are

Time Violation
06-05-2012, 01:22 PM
He's ranked in the top 30 (a lot better than his contemporaries) and has made a QF at a Slam....I don't see your point.

I meant about being too big for his age when he was 16 or so, together with a curiously lost birth certificate :)

Aardvark
06-05-2012, 02:03 PM
No, for sure he is born in 1998. I mean, ITF is only source I can trust.. if they are wrong, we all are

ITF site says he was born 21 Feb 1996. Maybe they've corrected their mistake

Asadinator
06-05-2012, 02:53 PM
I meant about being too big for his age when he was 16 or so, together with a curiously lost birth certificate :)

He won junior AO 2/3 months after turning 15, so that's very young for male standards, he beat Donal Young's record for youngest AO winner :) Tomic was a very very successful junior between 12 to 15 years old, he won heaps of junior tournaments including orange bowl in u/12, u/14 & u/16, which is a record.


None of these kids will turn out to be any good, Saville cannot win a single senior match and he's 18 already. They are all lacking the mental and physical strength to compete with the men.

If you think the current generation of youngsters is bad, just wait for the next one... if there will be a next one.

Li Ching Yuen
06-05-2012, 02:58 PM
He won junior AO 2/3 months after turning 15, so that's very young for male standards, he beat Donal Young's record for youngest AO winner :) Tomic was a very very successful junior between 12 to 15 years old, he won heaps of junior tournaments including orange bowl in u/12, u/14 & u/16, which is a record.


None of these kids will turn out to be any good, Saville cannot win a single senior match and he's 18 already. They are all lacking the mental and physical strength to compete with the men.

If you think the current generation of youngsters is bad, just wait for the next one... if there will be a next one.

:lol: What a troll.

There's always gonna be a next one, doesn't matter if for a sequence of years there's a lull, especially from a gloryhunter's perspective.

Remember this is an individual sport, they're not breeding chicken for mass consumption here.

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 02:59 PM
ITF site says he was born 21 Feb 1996. Maybe they've corrected their mistake

Not sure what I was looking for.. too much beer last night :eek:

He is born in 1996

misty1
06-05-2012, 03:51 PM
RG boys champions, last ten
2001 Carlos Cuadrado
2002 Richard Gasquet
2003 Stanislas Wawrinka
2004 Gaël Monfils
2005 Marin Čilić
2006 Martin Kližan
2007 Vladimir Ignatic
2008 Yang Tsung-hua
2009 Daniel Berta
2010 Agustín Velotti
2011 Bjorn Fratangelo

Funny list, since 2006 champions showed almost nothing on ATP level.



Berta is such a confusing story. He struggled big time with injuries arly and even at one point apparently considered not even trying to have a caer in tennis he was so frustrated. Then he made some progress late last year. Then he took forever to get his season started this year, he didnt show up anywhere until like 4 months in . I dont know if he was injured again or not

viruzzz
06-05-2012, 04:03 PM
Saville is a beast.
Also brody. I've never seem Quinzi play. But all MTF seems to think he can beat 2008/10 Rafa on a roland garros final, so he must be pretty good.

TennisOnWood
06-05-2012, 04:27 PM
All in all, winner of US Open 2005 is last Junior Major champion with ATP title.. that's sad

Hian-GOAT
06-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Broady's got a monster lefty forehand.
Saville is rock solid, very good foundation of his game.
Quinzi is a clay-courter.

No :spit: He has always declared his best tennis is on quick courts, but he adapted his game to clay, too, and is still better than 99 % of other juniors.

I like all three, hoping for a Broady-Quinzi if possible :angel:

Snowwy
06-06-2012, 11:36 AM
Quinzi did not look great this RG, maybe feeling some pressure?

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 11:40 AM
There has been some talk about Quinzi lately, he must be good. Good to finally see GB have some talent too.

:unsure:

Oliver Golding won US Open juniors last year.

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 11:44 AM
RG boys champions, last ten
2001 Carlos Cuadrado
2002 Richard Gasquet
2003 Stanislas Wawrinka
2004 Gaël Monfils
2005 Marin Čilić
2006 Martin Kližan
2007 Vladimir Ignatic
2008 Yang Tsung-hua
2009 Daniel Berta
2010 Agustín Velotti
2011 Bjorn Fratangelo

Funny list, since 2006 champions showed almost nothing on ATP level.

A lot of players these days are showing their best results after the age of 25. It's not surprising, as players need time for their bodies to mature, to settle into their game, and to have the experience necessary with dealing with life on tour. The game is a lot more physical than just five years ago. If you were to calculate the average age of the Top 100 players in 2000, 2005, 2010 and now, I think you would see a steady and significant increase.

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Berta is such a confusing story. He struggled big time with injuries arly and even at one point apparently considered not even trying to have a caer in tennis he was so frustrated. Then he made some progress late last year. Then he took forever to get his season started this year, he didnt show up anywhere until like 4 months in . I dont know if he was injured again or not

And he is having rather poor results too.

http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=100093976

Playing in Swedish Futures, which are generally among the weakest in Europe.

Hian-GOAT
06-06-2012, 11:46 AM
Quinzi did not look great this RG, maybe feeling some pressure?

First important tournament for her, and he lose 67 61 46 to Edmund.
Stats are all for him: winners, points, games won.. oh well, he is a year younger than Edmund, who has a good experience on futures, so not bad.

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 11:49 AM
Third Round:

Luke Saville AUS [1] beat Matteo Donati ITA 6-4 6-3
Adam Pavlasek CZE [11] beat Spencer Papa USA 6-4 6-3
Liam Broady GBR [3] vs. Noah Rubin USA
Thiago Monteiro BRA vs. Filip Peliwo CAN [5]

Mitchell Krueger USA [8] beat Quentin Halys FRA 7-6 6-4
Max De Vroome NED vs. Gabriel Friedrich BRA
Kimmer Coppejans BEL [6] beat Mateo Nicolas Martinez ARG [9] 6-1 6-3
Kyle Edmund GBR beat Gianluigi Quinzi ITA [2] 7-6 (1) 1-6 6-4

n8
06-06-2012, 11:49 AM
Lol, now that you mention it, didn't people say exactly the same about Tomic? :)

Yes but Tomic got the number two seed at a junior Grand Slam as a 15 year old, the US Open 2008. I think he was also a very high seed for Roland Garros and Wimbledon that year. I can't remember exactly, but I think he was seeded 2-4 for Wimbledon and the French Open.

Li Ching Yuen
06-06-2012, 11:57 AM
No :spit: He has always declared his best tennis is on quick courts, but he adapted his game to clay, too, and is still better than 99 % of other juniors.

I like all three, hoping for a Broady-Quinzi if possible :angel:

I'm confusing him with someone else then. Probably someone a bit older.

Hian-GOAT
06-06-2012, 11:59 AM
Liam about to get a breadstick by Rubin :spit:

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Third Round:

Luke Saville AUS [1] beat Matteo Donati ITA 6-4 6-3
Adam Pavlasek CZE [11] beat Spencer Papa USA 6-4 6-3
Noah Rubin USA beat Liam Broady GBR [3] 6-2 6-3
Filip Peliwo CAN [5] beat Thiago Monteiro BRA 6-3 6-2

Mitchell Krueger USA [8] beat Quentin Halys FRA 7-6 6-4
Max De Vroome NED beat Gabriel Friedrich BRA 6-4 6-3
Kimmer Coppejans BEL [6] beat Mateo Nicolas Martinez ARG [9] 6-1 6-3
Kyle Edmund GBR beat Gianluigi Quinzi ITA [2] 7-6 (1) 1-6 6-4

Quarter Finals:

Luke Saville AUS [1] vs. Adam Pavlasek CZE [11]
Noah Rubin USA vs. Filip Peliwo CAN [5]
Mitchell Krueger USA [8] vs. Max De Vroome NED
Kimmer Coppejans BEL [6] vs. Kyle Edmund GBR

Hian-GOAT
06-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Is Max Indy's brother?

Someone please stop Peliwo :tape: Please Luke :unsure:

Allez
06-06-2012, 05:09 PM
Liam :facepalm:

Leo
06-06-2012, 05:19 PM
What ever happened to Berankis? On Futures tour...to short to make it big? He has really dropped off when compared to his comrades on the junior circuit.

Vinceremo
06-06-2012, 05:38 PM
First important tournament for her, and he lose 67 61 46 to Edmund.
Stats are all for him: winners, points, games won.. oh well, he is a year younger than Edmund, who has a good experience on futures, so not bad.

You make a fair point there Hian, it's true that Quinzi is younger than a lot of the players in the draw and in some cases less experienced too but, IMO, coming in as second seed and losing this early is a bit disappointing at least! Close match regardless. I haven't seen a lot from him but thought he prefered clay courts, did he actually said the opposite? I know he did some training in Argentina and I've never seen him play on hard courts.

Well, he's got plenty of time ahead at just 16 so I just wish him the best and hope he keeps progressing. Don't want to hype him so much, time will tell! Remember a few years ago with Trevisan and Fabbiano cruising in juniors? :p I haven't lost all faith in them, they are huge underachievers IMO but it's a shame they are still struggling to settle themselves in the Challenger circuit. I'm not comparing, just saying that they also had good results at juniors, I guess Quinzi has more potential plus it's great to know he supports Juve too! :cool:

TennisOnWood
06-06-2012, 05:39 PM
What ever happened to Berankis? On Futures tour...to short to make it big? He has really dropped off when compared to his comrades on the junior circuit.

Just like the other talents.. nothing

156mphserve
06-06-2012, 05:47 PM
Filip doing well, beat Monteiro quite easily today:)

Clay isn't his best surface, but he seems to have adapted well.

Hian-GOAT
06-06-2012, 06:10 PM
You make a fair point there Hian, it's true that Quinzi is younger than a lot of the players in the draw and in some cases less experienced too but, IMO, coming in as second seed and losing this early is a bit disappointing at least! Close match regardless. I haven't seen a lot from him but thought he prefered clay courts, did he actually said the opposite? I know he did some training in Argentina and I've never seen him play on hard courts.

Well, he's got plenty of time ahead at just 16 so I just wish him the best and hope he keeps progressing. Don't want to hype him so much, time will tell! Remember a few years ago with Trevisan and Fabbiano cruising in juniors? :p I haven't lost all faith in them, they are huge underachievers IMO but it's a shame they are still struggling to settle themselves in the Challenger circuit. I'm not comparing, just saying that they also had good results at juniors, I guess Quinzi has more potential plus it's great to know he supports Juve too! :cool:

Yes he declared it ;) But Fabbiano is physically very limited, Quinzi is 16 and is already taller than him :lol: I am scared that Fabbiano's problem could affect Teo Donati :sad:

I don't remember Fabbiano or Trevisan achieving so much being just 16 like Squinzia is doing.
However, a bit disappoinment.. there is, but not too much. When Saville will end the year, Squinzia has good chances to be n.1 among juniors.

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 07:34 PM
Is Max Indy's brother?

Someone please stop Peliwo :tape: Please Luke :unsure:

Yes, her older brother.

What's wrong with Peliwo?

TigerTim
06-06-2012, 07:35 PM
come on Kyle Edmund :rock:

Hian-GOAT
06-06-2012, 07:44 PM
Yes, her older brother.

What's wrong with Peliwo?

I don't like him honestly :shrug:

Both De Vroome could have great careers. Indy already wins matches among seniors, and her brother seems good, too.

TennisOnWood
06-06-2012, 07:55 PM
Yes he declared it ;) But Fabbiano is physically very limited, Quinzi is 16 and is already taller than him :lol: I am scared that Fabbiano's problem could affect Teo Donati :sad:

I don't remember Fabbiano or Trevisan achieving so much being just 16 like Squinzia is doing.
However, a bit disappoinment.. there is, but not too much. When Saville will end the year, Squinzia has good chances to be n.1 among juniors.

Being Number 1 Junior doesn't mean anything this days.. we can hope he will get WC for some of Huly Challengers in Italy and maybe with luck in draw to score win, that would be huge. Of course, more wins in Futures this season and year end Top 1000 is imperative

CooCooCachoo
06-06-2012, 08:00 PM
I don't like him honestly :shrug:

Both De Vroome could have great careers. Indy already wins matches among seniors, and her brother seems good, too.

But what about him?

I haven't had the chance to see him play so I'm unsure as to what caused your antipathy.

Vinceremo
06-06-2012, 08:01 PM
Yes he declared it ;) But Fabbiano is physically very limited, Quinzi is 16 and is already taller than him :lol: I am scared that Fabbiano's problem could affect Teo Donati :sad:

I don't remember Fabbiano or Trevisan achieving so much being just 16 like Squinzia is doing.
However, a bit disappoinment.. there is, but not too much. When Saville will end the year, Squinzia has good chances to be n.1 among juniors.

Interesting, didn't know he actually said he prefered faster courts. And yes, Fabbiano is Cipolla sized :p and it is, in fact, quite a disadvantage in tennis specially nowadays. But don't give up on them (both Trevisan and Fabbiano)! Their ranking doesn't reflect their actual tennis level, both really have no business being outside the top 200 and I hope they can get back on track! Looking forward to Quinzi's progress.

misty1
06-06-2012, 08:04 PM
Just like the other talents.. nothing

he has suffered with consecutive injuries recently . He hade made top 100 but injuries have caused his ranking to tumble

misty1
06-06-2012, 08:04 PM
Is Max Indy's brother?

Someone please stop Peliwo :tape: Please Luke :unsure:

what do you have against filip?

misty1
06-06-2012, 08:05 PM
Filip doing well, beat Monteiro quite easily today:)

Clay isn't his best surface, but he seems to have adapted well.

his match tommorrow concerns me. I dont know much about this rubin kid..except that mcenroe loves him

Asadinator
06-07-2012, 02:19 AM
:lol: What a troll.

There's always gonna be a next one, doesn't matter if for a sequence of years there's a lull, especially from a gloryhunter's perspective.

Remember this is an individual sport, they're not breeding chicken for mass consumption here.

I didn't say the sport will die out... just the next generation is absolutely useless.

Just look at their senior records.

There is as much difference between Top 4 and current youngsters as there is between current youngsters and juniors.

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In comparison, the girls are doing much much better. Most of the top girls have started winning senior matches long time ago and they're all around 16.

rocketassist
06-07-2012, 02:23 AM
Broady is a working class Northerner from Manchester. Hope he makes it to the big time.

156mphserve
06-07-2012, 02:36 AM
I don't like him honestly :shrug:

Both De Vroome could have great careers. Indy already wins matches among seniors, and her brother seems good, too.

Unless you watched him when he played a couple futures, and junior tournaments in Italy this past month I'm not sure what you're basing that dislike on. I've only been able to watch him once, that was the junior AO final, and there was nothing he done in that match to make anyone dislike him imo.

Smoke944
06-07-2012, 02:42 AM
He won junior AO 2/3 months after turning 15, so that's very young for male standards, he beat Donal Young's record for youngest AO winner :) Tomic was a very very successful junior between 12 to 15 years old, he won heaps of junior tournaments including orange bowl in u/12, u/14 & u/16, which is a record.


None of these kids will turn out to be any good, Saville cannot win a single senior match and he's 18 already. They are all lacking the mental and physical strength to compete with the men.

If you think the current generation of youngsters is bad, just wait for the next one... if there will be a next one.

put down the crackpipe

Smoke944
06-07-2012, 02:43 AM
Unless you watched him when he played a couple futures, and junior tournaments in Italy this past month I'm not sure what you're basing that dislike on. I've only been able to watch him once, that was the junior AO final, and there was nothing he done in that match to make anyone dislike him imo.

You're forgetting that on MTF you don't need a reason to dislike a player :lol:

Henry Chinaski
06-07-2012, 03:53 AM
curious as to this explanation as well. it will probably come in the form of a nonsensical snow white gif or something.

peliwo seems a humble and likeable kid on twitter.

DanaKz
06-07-2012, 05:58 AM
What ever happened to Berankis? On Futures tour...to short to make it big? He has really dropped off when compared to his comrades on the junior circuit.

:eek:

You are kidding, aren't you??? Nice joke! :spit:

He was in top-100 in 2011, then he was out for almost 6 months because of injury, came back, got another injury and just coming back from another several months without tennis.

alansk
06-07-2012, 09:14 AM
First important tournament for her, and he lose 67 61 46 to Edmund.
Stats are all for him: winners, points, games won.. oh well, he is a year younger than Edmund, who has a good experience on futures, so not bad.

Quinzi hit zero winners according to RG site (http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day16/11308ms.html).

CooCooCachoo
06-07-2012, 09:16 AM
Quinzi hit zero winners according to RG site (http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day16/11308ms.html).

Clearly those stats are inaccurate.

Only 9 UEs and 7 winners between the two of them in a long three-set match. Are they trying to tell us almost all points were won with forced errors?

alansk
06-07-2012, 09:19 AM
Clearly those stats are inaccurate.

Only 9 UEs and 7 winners between the two of them in a long three-set match. Are they trying to tell us almost all points were won with forced errors?

:D It's possible, I guess...

TigerTim
06-07-2012, 09:22 AM
Broady is a working class Northerner from Manchester. Hope he makes it to the big time.

no doubt the Daily Mail will find a way to have a go at him as always :smash:. Still, good luck to the kid, maybe in 2018 he will win Wimbeldon :)

Tutu
06-07-2012, 09:34 AM
I hope Mr Kvitova can take out Saville today. They keep on playing each other.

TennisOnWood
06-07-2012, 11:33 AM
Peliwo and Coppejans are in 1/2.. waiting for 2 more

Wing Man Frank
06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Broady is a working class Northerner from Manchester. Hope he makes it to the big time.

Pathetic. His social status shouldn't make any sort of difference.

canuckfan
06-07-2012, 12:28 PM
Quinzi hit zero winners according to RG site (http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day16/11308ms.html).

Clearly those stats are inaccurate.

Only 9 UEs and 7 winners between the two of them in a long three-set match. Are they trying to tell us almost all points were won with forced errors?

:D It's possible, I guess...

They often don't count winners and UEs in junior matches (like in this case). You'll notice that the number of aces is the same as the number of winners and the number of double faults is the same as the number of UEs.

erickmartins
06-07-2012, 02:45 PM
Quinzi's game didn't impress me at all. I didn't see anything special on it to justify all the hype he's been receiving. I saw his match against Pollanen and couldn't really say which of the two was the best player.

On the other hand, I'd bet on Saville having a nice career. Smart, tactical game with the shotmaking ability to back it up. If he can man up and get stronger mentally, the talent is there to go very far.

Smoke944
06-07-2012, 02:55 PM
Quinzi's game didn't impress me at all. I didn't see anything special on it to justify all the hype he's been receiving. I saw his match against Pollanen and couldn't really say which of the two was the best player.

On the other hand, I'd bet on Saville having a nice career. Smart, tactical game with the shotmaking ability to back it up. If he can man up and get stronger mentally, the talent is there to go very far.

I completely disagree :lol:
Anyway Pavlasek d. Saville 6-3 6-3 to complete the semis

Adri89
06-07-2012, 02:55 PM
I agree on Saville. He impressed me and has the potential to have a nice career.
Quinzi's hype is logical considering he just turns 16. He has to grow up but he has time for this. You have to wait to say what his future may be.

rocketassist
06-07-2012, 03:06 PM
Pathetic. His social status shouldn't make any sort of difference.

As a working class socialist northern man from a similar town to Manchester it does to me, I identify with him.

Hian-GOAT
06-07-2012, 03:13 PM
Quinzi's game didn't impress me at all. I didn't see anything special on it to justify all the hype he's been receiving. I saw his match against Pollanen and couldn't really say which of the two was the best player.

On the other hand, I'd bet on Saville having a nice career. Smart, tactical game with the shotmaking ability to back it up. If he can man up and get stronger mentally, the talent is there to go very far.

But still he defeated him :p

Someone is jealous that France has no promising players :wavey:

Those stats are obviously wrong, dumbasses.

green25814
06-07-2012, 04:29 PM
All three lost before the semis?

Damn, I feel like Simon Reed

Deathless Mortal
06-07-2012, 05:18 PM
All three lost before the semis?

Damn, I feel like Simon Reed

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/967/13809906.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/13809906.jpg/)

CooCooCachoo
06-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Hian, how about backing up your dislike for Peliwo? We're all still waiting :p

CooCooCachoo
06-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Quarter Finals:

Adam Pavlasek CZE [11] beat Luke Saville AUS [1] 6-3 6-3
Filip Peliwo CAN [5] beat Noah Rubin USA 6-4 6-1
Mitchell Krueger USA [8] beat Max De Vroome NED 6-2 6-1
Kimmer Coppejans BEL [6] beat Kyle Edmund GBR 6-4 6-3

Smoke944
06-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Hian, how about backing up your dislike for Peliwo? We're all still waiting :p

There's nothing behind it. But this is MTF, so that's business as usual :cool:

CooCooCachoo
06-07-2012, 06:36 PM
Doubles | Semi Finals:

Couacaud & Favrot [FRA] vs. Harris & Kyrgios [AUS]
Monteiro & Quinzi [BRA/ITA] vs. Pavlasek & Safranek [CZE]

Sombrerero loco
06-07-2012, 06:38 PM
i hope peliwo and coppejans will make it into the final!

erickmartins
06-07-2012, 10:23 PM
But still he defeated him :p

Someone is jealous that France has no promising players :wavey:

Those stats are obviously wrong, dumbasses.


I'm not even french :haha:

Contrary to you who seems not to like players for no apparent reason, I have nothing against Quinzi, I was just stating what I saw watching him live.

Wing Man Frank
06-08-2012, 11:06 AM
As a working class socialist northern man from a similar town to Manchester it does to me, I identify with him.

You're saying then that were he from a middle-class family down sarf, you'd wouldn't care too much?

Again, pathetic.

Deathless Mortal
06-08-2012, 11:12 AM
Peliwo in the final :yeah:
Beat Pavlasek 2-6 7-6 6-0

tealeaves
06-08-2012, 11:18 AM
Kvitova's BF :facepalm:

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 11:28 AM
You're saying then that were he from a middle-class family down sarf, you'd wouldn't care too much?

Again, pathetic.

How is that pathetic? Players like Rubin, Ashe, Washington, the Williams Sisters did much to spark interest in tennis among African Americans. That is a good thing. Players that defy the odds by breaking out from marginalized communities become role models.

More basically, don't we all support players partly because we can relate to them? This could vary from someone's game, on-court attitude, personality or life story. I don't see how one of these is more valid (or less pathetic) than the others.

You must find the whole concept of Davis, Fed and Hopman Cup to be pathetic too, since there is no logic in supporting your country.

Wing Man Frank
06-08-2012, 11:37 AM
How is that pathetic? Players like Rubin, Ashe, Washington, the Williams Sisters did much to spark interest in tennis among African Americans. That is a good thing. Players that defy the odds by breaking out from marginalized communities become role models.

More basically, don't we all support players partly because we can relate to them? This could vary from someone's game, on-court attitude, personality or life story. I don't see how one of these is more valid (or less pathetic) than the others.

You must find the whole concept of Davis, Fed and Hopman Cup to be pathetic too, since there is no logic in supporting your country.

I support British tennis players regardless of where they are from.

I don't let social status or political views get in the way.

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 11:43 AM
I support British tennis players regardless of where they are from.

I don't let social status or political views get in the way.

How is nationality a more legitimate basis of support than social status?

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Coppejans up *3-1 against Krueger.

Wing Man Frank
06-08-2012, 11:52 AM
How is nationality a more legitimate basis of support than social status?

Your turning sport into a political and socio-economic issue when it is neither.

In effect you are saying that it's fine to dislike someone if they have a better social status to you. Sad, really.

Can't actually see what your point is either.

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 12:27 PM
pavlasek losing with a wta scoreline :spit:

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 12:32 PM
6-3 2-2 coppejans, play suspended

Hian-GOAT
06-08-2012, 12:34 PM
Krueger :lol:

Ashlar77
06-08-2012, 12:34 PM
Filip :yeah: :yeah:

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 12:36 PM
Krueger :lol:

what?

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 12:37 PM
oops you just edited it :lol:

petar_pan
06-08-2012, 12:53 PM
Borna Coric (1996, CRO) played semis at the Roland Garros 2 (same list ) last week.

Nr 1 Fan
06-08-2012, 12:58 PM
Would be great if Coppejans made final. Funny story: as a kid, he wasn't allowed into the biggest tennis center of Flanders, where all the young, very talented players train together, because he was too small back then.

Nr 1 Fan
06-08-2012, 01:01 PM
Pavlasek is Mr Kvitova, really?

TennisOnWood
06-08-2012, 01:03 PM
Pavlasek is Mr Kvitova, really?

Yeap

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 01:06 PM
poor guy :lol: he plays goot tennis. i think in a couple of years he will be top 200-300 or better

petar_pan
06-08-2012, 01:06 PM
Borna was 3 class better player 2 years ago than Quinzi and Rubin (he beated them for 2 times each, loosing just 5-6 games per set) but he don't have money for academy while they have and because of that they surpassed him. Besides that, he is almost one year younger.

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 01:07 PM
Would be great if Coppejans made final. Funny story: as a kid, he wasn't allowed into the biggest tennis center of Flanders, where all the young, very talented players train together, because he was too small back then.

no words on this. belgians should know small people can achieve things too(rochus, goffin)

Nr 1 Fan
06-08-2012, 01:16 PM
no words on this. belgians should know small people can achieve things too(rochus, goffin)

Exactly, but Flanders and Wallonie have separate schools. The tests to enter the academy are a joke here in Flanders: the very young children have do a lot of physicial tests, most of them without a racket. It's all about physical ability and coordination, and all that.

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 01:31 PM
coppejans to serve for the match at *5-4

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 01:41 PM
second chance to serve for the match, *6-5 now

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 01:44 PM
so it will be peliwo vs coppejans in the final

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Exactly, but Flanders and Wallonie have separate schools. The tests to enter the academy are a joke here in Flanders: the very young children have do a lot of physicial tests, most of them without a racket. It's all about physical ability and coordination, and all that.

It's funny how the Walloons are relatively tiny, and the Flemish are giants (Vliegen, Norman).

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 01:57 PM
Your turning sport into a political and socio-economic issue when it is neither.

In effect you are saying that it's fine to dislike someone if they have a better social status to you. Sad, really.

Can't actually see what your point is either.

How can you say sport is not a socioeconomic issue? That's a really uninformed statement to make, given the elitist image that tennis has had and is still in the process of shaking off.

I am not saying that it is fine to dislike someone of a different social status; I am saying that it is understandable that you can relate to someone from a low social standing who has had to overcome relatively more boundaries in the struggle to become a professional tennis player. The point is that someone becomes relatable to you, which is a normal basis for admiration. Don't twist my words; I am talking about a basis for affect; not a basis for disaffect.

You are born into a social class as much as you are born into a nationality. Both are not immutable, but changing the former requires more effort. By your logic, you would start supporting any player you currently don't support the moment they acquire British citizenship. Now that is nonsensical.

CooCooCachoo
06-08-2012, 01:59 PM
Krueger :lol:

Hian, we are still waiting for your explanation re: Peliwo.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but by now I am fully convinced it is just an irrational dislike of someone you have never seen play. Please prove me wrong.

Snowwy
06-08-2012, 04:54 PM
Hian, we are still waiting for your explanation re: Peliwo.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but by now I am fully convinced it is just an irrational dislike of someone you have never seen play. Please prove me wrong.

He hates all Canadian players.

Hian-GOAT
06-08-2012, 10:03 PM
He hates all Canadian players.

No, really.
Among women I like El Tabakh.
Among men.. ugh, Peliwo is by far the one I dislike less :lol: I'm watching some of his performances and I don't get how she is getting such good results (he is good, but there were better players here). No hate people, not even dislike :p

I hate the boring way 90 % of Canucks support their players: too obsessive.

Sombrerero loco
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
how could someone hate pospi, polansky and milos?they are SO lovely :)

156mphserve
06-08-2012, 11:40 PM
No, really.
Among women I like El Tabakh.
Among men.. ugh, Peliwo is by far the one I dislike less :lol: I'm watching some of his performances and I don't get how she is getting such good results (he is good, but there were better players here). No hate people, not even dislike :p

I hate the boring way 90 % of Canucks support their players: too obsessive.

When have you watched him?

Snowwy
06-09-2012, 02:30 AM
No, really.
Among women I like El Tabakh.
Among men.. ugh, Peliwo is by far the one I dislike less :lol: I'm watching some of his performances and I don't get how she is getting such good results (he is good, but there were better players here). No hate people, not even dislike :p

I hate the boring way 90 % of Canucks support their players: too obsessive.

:haha: Yet we all get a thread in GM about Quinzi, seems a little obsessive to me, not sure any Canadians did that for Peliwo or any other Canadian. :wavey:

It all depends what day you watch Peliwo, on a good day he is excellent but on his bad days, he is really bad.

CooCooCachoo
06-09-2012, 09:25 AM
how could someone hate pospi, polansky and milos?they are SO lovely :)

Peter is so great :worship: Haven't seen Vasek in real life yet, but from matches and videos he seems really likable too. Plus he has Fred Niemeyer as his coach, so he is bound to have a sense of humor and an upbeat personality.

I dislike Raonic's game so much that even his personality can't make up for my dislike though.

And on the women's side, I certainly hope that even Canadians don't support Wozniak :help: Although she may have become a bit more humble :unsure:

Hian-GOAT
06-09-2012, 10:03 AM
:haha: Yet we all get a thread in GM about Quinzi, seems a little obsessive to me, not sure any Canadians did that for Peliwo or any other Canadian. :wavey:

It all depends what day you watch Peliwo, on a good day he is excellent but on his bad days, he is really bad.

So, you want a full explained thing. Ok, I suppose :lol:

I've been watching Peliwo vs Saville at Australian Open this year, and he looks ok, I repeat it. Nothing exceptional, that's why I'm quite surprised that he gets such good results. I never said I hate him, I could even like him one day :lol:

I dislike almost all the Canadians, on the other side. Raonic is one of the players I dislike more, because he is good just to serve and is annoyinh like hell. Strip him away from his serve, and he is barely a Top 100 player. Plus, not even an emotion on court. I don't like him, stop :shrug:

Between the others.. some are boring, some are made boring by many Canadian fans, who celebrate every of them like something exceptional. I mean, it's great to cheer for a player, but some people are just too much.

Women. I like Heidi El Tabakh, she is a fantastic player and a funny girl. The others..
Wozniak is boring as the hell. She makes me fall asleep in her matches, it's like she tries to make her opponent become so bored that she deliberately loses the match to get rid of her :lol:
Marino is :shrug: Great potential, I'd like to see her again.
Fichman is the most annoying player ever :hysteric: Pathetic moonballer who screams like a crazy and firstumps at her opponent's errors (she doesn't even make any winners :lol:), she is the worst Canadian by far.
Pelletier is the same of Fichman, a bit less maybe.
Bouchard is overhpyed like the hell :shrug: She will be lucky to enter the Top 100 one day: except for a good forehand she has nothing. And, like some men players, she is celebrated like a diva :facepalm:

Anymore?

156mphserve
06-09-2012, 08:11 PM
Ok first off, judging how good someone is from watching 1 match is wrong. I don't think he played too well in that match, as much as I can remember anyway.

2nd, serve is part of tennis, get over it hater., I'd post a gif about it, but that's stupid, and weird as hell too, especially most of the ones you post. Take Nadal's FH away and he's not nearly as good either.

3rd, I don't think we celebrate others that much. They're rarely ever talked about in GM, besides for probably match threads, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

4th, if you get bored by the little to none amount of Vasek/Frank/Peter/Whoever talk in GM then I sure hope you dislike Fedalovic for the same reason:lol:

156mphserve
06-09-2012, 08:11 PM
They should put the boys final on PC. It would start 4 hours before the mens final, so they'd be long gone before Rafole starts.

Is there going to be any stream for the boys final?

Smoke944
06-09-2012, 08:57 PM
They should put the boys final on PC. It would start 4 hours before the mens final, so they'd be long gone before Rafole starts.

Is there going to be any stream for the boys final?

If I had to guess based on past years, no it unfortunately won't be streamed

edit: especially considering the final is on court 2, highly doubtful

CooCooCachoo
06-10-2012, 10:28 AM
Coppejans slighted Peliwo, 6-1 6-4.

misty1
06-10-2012, 12:03 PM
got to sting for filip to lose 2 finals in a row...and this one wasnt even close

TennisOnWood
06-10-2012, 12:16 PM
got to sting for filip to lose 2 finals in a row...and this one wasnt even close

Challenger 1/2 is far more important than this, Coppejans will probalby win his first ATP title in 5 or 6 years

misty1
06-10-2012, 12:18 PM
Challenger 1/2 is far more important than this, Coppejans will probalby win his first ATP title in 5 or 6 years

yeah but losing 2 grand slam finals in a row really has to suck.

and when you see his interview and posts on twitter..yeah

Ash86
06-10-2012, 12:24 PM
Filip's twitter posts were a bit too full of himself. Confidence is one thing but some perspective is good... Still, getting to the finals is still good and he can comfort himself by looking at the careers of some other Junior Slam champs (e.g. Wawrinka, Dimitrov etc.) vs those who lost earlier (e.g. Nadal) - not always the best predictor.

misty1
06-10-2012, 12:27 PM
his one twitter post that referred to the final was that he had a great practice and he thought it was going to be a good final for him

in what world is that being full of himself?

true be it that winning a junior slam isnt an indicator of success but im sure as a junior its still a valued achievment and a goal

TennisOnWood
06-10-2012, 12:28 PM
yeah but losing 2 grand slam finals in a row really has to suck.

and when you see his interview and posts on twitter..yeah

I think he will for sure get WC for Canada Open.. imagine some luck in the draw and one win, that will be better than Junior AO and RG titles together. Just look what Junior Grand Slam winners done after Monfils, Murray and Cilic

But I know what you want to say.. losing big matches can be frustrating

misty1
06-10-2012, 12:34 PM
I think he will for sure get WC for Canada Open.. imagine some luck in the draw and one win, that will be better than Junior AO and RG titles together. Just look what Junior Grand Slam winners done after Monfils, Murray and Cilic

But I know what you want to say.. losing big matches can be frustrating

he'd need a really freidnly draw to win one and the players you listed arent exactly the best examples, even if they havent won slams they've still had great careers.

Wing Man Frank
06-10-2012, 12:49 PM
he'd need a really freidnly draw to win one and the players you listed arent exactly the best examples, even if they havent won slams they've still had great careers.

Which is why he said AFTER those three.

misty1
06-10-2012, 12:51 PM
Which is why he said AFTER those three.

my mistake, i misread

as i said i understand winning a junior grand slam doesnt mean much for later on but he really wanted this one

CooCooCachoo
06-10-2012, 02:12 PM
Filip's twitter posts were a bit too full of himself. Confidence is one thing but some perspective is good... Still, getting to the finals is still good and he can comfort himself by looking at the careers of some other Junior Slam champs (e.g. Wawrinka, Dimitrov etc.) vs those who lost earlier (e.g. Nadal) - not always the best predictor.

Really? I read them as passionate rather than cocky.

Smoke944
06-10-2012, 03:25 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/tennis/story/2012/06/10/sp-filip-peliwo-kimmer-coopejans-french-open.html

B.C.'s Peliwo loses French Open junior tennis final
Long return leads to smashed racquet for angry Canadian

This will go down as one of the great trophy pictures of all time. Love the contrasting expressions
http://www.rolandgarros.com/images/pics/misc/f_06-10-Peliwo-Filip-23.jpg

CooCooCachoo
06-10-2012, 03:55 PM
He looks so dejected :awww:

It was a bit of a blow-out in the final. Disappointment is logical.

Sonja1989
06-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Oh poor guy seems so disappointed. :hug: Hopefully next time.
I just noticed he lost a final already, AO this year :hug:

Hian-GOAT
06-10-2012, 06:07 PM
Ok first off, judging how good someone is from watching 1 match is wrong. I don't think he played too well in that match, as much as I can remember anyway.

2nd, serve is part of tennis, get over it hater., I'd post a gif about it, but that's stupid, and weird as hell too, especially most of the ones you post. Take Nadal's FH away and he's not nearly as good either.

3rd, I don't think we celebrate others that much. They're rarely ever talked about in GM, besides for probably match threads, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

4th, if you get bored by the little to none amount of Vasek/Frank/Peter/Whoever talk in GM then I sure hope you dislike Fedalovic for the same reason:lol:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnvngghuQp1qhafj6.gif

raskolnikow
06-10-2012, 06:09 PM
his one twitter post that referred to the final was that he had a great practice and he thought it was going to be a good final for him

in what world is that being full of himself?

Maybe it's the header on his twitter page: "Canadian tennis player. If you knew what's best for you, you'd follow me."

misty1
06-10-2012, 06:13 PM
Maybe it's the header on his twitter page: "Canadian tennis player. If you knew what's best for you, you'd follow me."

grab a sense of humour

Nr 1 Fan
06-10-2012, 06:13 PM
Great effort from Coppejans in only his second slam! A shame every one here is talking about Peliwo, after all Coppjenas won it.

156mphserve
06-10-2012, 06:37 PM
talk about Coppejans then, nobody is stopping you :shrug:

misty1
06-10-2012, 06:51 PM
im only defending filip because he's been called arrogant, everything i have seen from him has shown that to be far from true

CooCooCachoo
06-10-2012, 07:21 PM
"I'll move on to Wimbledon as a champion! That will give me confidence," said Coppejans. "People are going to start to recognise me I guess, but this win doesn't change anything for me. I’m just going to keep on working."

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2012-06-10/201206101339334303741.html

CooCooCachoo
06-10-2012, 07:22 PM
Peliwo and Guga.

https://p.twimg.com/AvCPdt2CQAAyCKv.jpg

From Peliwo's Twitter.

The Canadian looks a little posh, largely because of Lacoste. It's a look I like, but I think it might contribute to why people think he is arrogant. Just speculating.

Sombrerero loco
06-11-2012, 08:40 AM
im only defending filip because he's been called arrogant, everything i have seen from him has shown that to be far from true

:unsure: he is arrogant indeed. and he has no reasons to be arrogant :)

Sombrerero loco
06-11-2012, 08:43 AM
Filip's twitter posts were a bit too full of himself. Confidence is one thing but some perspective is good... Still, getting to the finals is still good and he can comfort himself by looking at the careers of some other Junior Slam champs (e.g. Wawrinka, Dimitrov etc.) vs those who lost earlier (e.g. Nadal) - not always the best predictor.

true

jazar
06-11-2012, 08:48 AM
I was at the final yesterday and Coppejans seems like quite a complete and astute player.

Sombrerero loco
06-11-2012, 08:53 AM
do you have any pics?lots of people there supporting both players? :)

CooCooCachoo
06-11-2012, 02:24 PM
It wasn't just that one photo on which Peliwo looked dejected.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181891_317317215020622_675466741_n.jpg

Ouch.

Gonzil
06-11-2012, 02:52 PM
The poor boy was really, really disappointed:

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2012/06/10/filip-peliwo-the-most-disappointing-day-of-my-life/

Hian-GOAT
06-11-2012, 02:53 PM
I knew Peliwo was bad :hysteric:

You lost, gurl.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ial4yrHz1rpt3g0.gif

Mercury
06-11-2012, 03:34 PM
Those pics... :facepalm:

What a useless sore loser. You had your ass handed to you on clay, deal with it.

misty1
06-11-2012, 03:39 PM
:unsure: he is arrogant indeed. and he has no reasons to be arrogant :)

what evidence is there of that? and dont give me that crap about his twitter account

misty1
06-11-2012, 03:42 PM
The poor boy was really, really disappointed:

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2012/06/10/filip-peliwo-the-most-disappointing-day-of-my-life/

i cant believe some asshole actually stood there and shouted that at an 18 year old like that

Sombrerero loco
06-11-2012, 04:16 PM
what evidence is there of that? and dont give me that crap about his twitter account

girl, its just my opinion he is arrogant. and yeah, if you want to know, he was so arrogant to me on facebook. also, you lost a gs junior final come on its not the end of the world, you should come out at least and smile a little bit. dont like guys acting like so much drama when you were destroyed on the court :wavey:
http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2012/06/10/filip-peliwo-the-most-disappointing-day-of-my-life/
just read this lol

CooCooCachoo
06-11-2012, 11:07 PM
That article doesn't make him seem arrogant to me either :shrug: I like players who show emotion, and the one emotion I'm getting from him is passion for the game.

What a complete idiot to yell at a young boy who just lost a big match. That guy should be banned from tournaments for life. :help:

Really looking forward to seeing the kid play. Hopefully Wimbledon!

CooCooCachoo
06-11-2012, 11:09 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224819_4133409775479_1358383890_n.jpg

Awkward smile there, but it's an improvement.

CooCooCachoo
06-11-2012, 11:11 PM
girl, its just my opinion he is arrogant. and yeah, if you want to know, he was so arrogant to me on facebook. also, you lost a gs junior final come on its not the end of the world, you should come out at least and smile a little bit. dont like guys acting like so much drama when you were destroyed on the court :wavey:
http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2012/06/10/filip-peliwo-the-most-disappointing-day-of-my-life/
just read this lol

He rejected your friend request? :p

Sombrerero loco
06-12-2012, 08:48 AM
:haha: no, he did accept me. thats not the reason :lol:

TennisOnWood
06-12-2012, 09:03 AM
Guy is not even started with ATP matches.. this shood be fun in future :D

Houstonko
06-12-2012, 10:11 AM
Those who did very well in juniors usually choke in seniors. Eg. Hewitt, roddick, gasguet, monfils. Nadal and djokovic did nothing in juniors at all while Fed only have 1 junior wimbledon slam. There is correlation in this.

Sombrerero loco
06-12-2012, 12:33 PM
lol i bet both kimmer and filip would be happy to have a career similar to hewitt,roddick, gasquet or monfils

A_Skywalker
06-12-2012, 01:59 PM
Those who did very well in juniors usually choke in seniors. Eg. Hewitt, roddick, gasguet, monfils. Nadal and djokovic did nothing in juniors at all while Fed only have 1 junior wimbledon slam. There is correlation in this.

They started to play at professional level so young, never played juniors actually.

Asadinator
06-12-2012, 02:59 PM
Those who did very well in juniors usually choke in seniors. Eg. Hewitt, roddick, gasguet, monfils. Nadal and djokovic did nothing in juniors at all while Fed only have 1 junior wimbledon slam. There is correlation in this.

What nonsense.

Any junior would love to have a career of Hewitt/Roddick, even Gasquet/Monfils.

Federer was #1 in juniors as well, how can you say he did nothing? He took a long time to get used to seniors, lost heaps of futures/challenger matches before 17.

None of your examples have any correlation. Only correlation between juniors and seniors, is the age you have success in juniors. If you are a 18 year old successful junior, stats are against you at senior level.

But like Nadal, if you have early success at senior level, you can skip juniors altogether.