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Roland Garos R4:Murray def. Gasquet 1-6 6-4 6-1 6-2(Clinical Destruction)

Shinoj
06-04-2012, 07:09 PM
One of the best Performance in the RG so far.

Drop shots, Forehand Winners,Service Returns,Controlling the Rally like a Rodeo.. You name it.


:clap2:

GrantOz44
06-04-2012, 07:09 PM
Dat crowd

Certinfy
06-04-2012, 07:09 PM
Andy :yeah: Was fucking awesome in the last 2 sets! :worship:

Gasquet never had any chance here, don't even know why people thought he was going to win this routinely. :stupid:

People can say all they want about his easy draw last year, but fact is he's probably still going to make the semis this year with one of the hardest draws of any player.

Fiberlight1
06-04-2012, 07:10 PM
Oscar worthy performance from Murray.

RagingLamb
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
Murray took needed a bit of time to adjust to the conditions. But as soon as he did, the winner was NID.

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
The last two sets were absolutely amazing from Andy. He just toyed around with Gasquet and destroyed him. Everything was amazing. His lobs, his slice, his dropshots, his forehand, his backhand and his consistency was all amazing. His serve was rather mediocre but that didn't really matter with a ground game as good as that.

chammer44
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
Rude handshake by Gasquet.

HeretiC
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
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Orka_n
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
lol. Hype while you can. He'll get taken out by Ferrer.

Jozie
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
Vile character, this Murray :no:

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 07:11 PM
Murray was godawful in the first set, last two brilliant. Winner/errors tell the story...

Set1: 6 12
Set2: 17 11
Set3: 14 2
Set4: 22 4

Regenbogen
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
Damn :eek: Murray really upped his game the last two sets, fun for me to watch although apparently not for the crowd.

RIboy
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
hell yes, that's the way Andrew.... :yeah:

misty1
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
Andy :yeah: Was fucking awesome in the last 2 sets! :worship:

Gasquet never had any chance here, don't even know why people thought he was going to win this routinely. :stupid:

People can say all they want about his easy draw last year, but fact is he's probably still going to make the semis this year with one of the hardest draws of any player.

ferrer has never lost to murray on clay so in all likelihood andy will go down in the QF

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
lol. Hype while you can. He'll get taken out by Ferrer.
Still whining, Orka? :baby: :lol:

Ferrer will have a lot to deal with if Andy plays like he did in the last two sets :wavey:

GrantOz44
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
Anyway, that was clinical indeed. Such variety. Raw power. Murray was a joy to watch.

green25814
06-04-2012, 07:12 PM
Dedicated to that moron Gagsquet

NID

rocketassist
06-04-2012, 07:13 PM
#heel.

Murray those last two sets was sickeningly good. Winner machine.

Pics-Andy QF. Whatever you do lads, don't knacker each other too much. The winner needs to be able to bring it on Friday.

Certinfy
06-04-2012, 07:13 PM
The Murray of the last 2 sets will not only beat Ferrer, but destroy him! :drool:

Action Jackson
06-04-2012, 07:13 PM
Good showing there by Thick Legs.

Fireballer
06-04-2012, 07:13 PM
#heel.

Murray those last two sets was sickeningly good. Winner machine.

Pics-Andy QF. Whatever you do lads, don't knacker each other too much. The winner needs to be able to bring it on Friday.

two grinders...yeah it will be short.

sdtoot
06-04-2012, 07:14 PM
Don't you just love this French crowd when one of theirs gets taken apart at RG.

green25814
06-04-2012, 07:14 PM
#heel.

Murray those last two sets was sickeningly good. Winner machine.

Pics-Andy QF. Whatever you do lads, don't knacker each other too much. The winner needs to be able to bring it on Friday.

Thats my worry. No five set epic please. Someone's gotta fucking test Nadal. This is ridiculous

rocketassist
06-04-2012, 07:14 PM
two grinders...yeah it will be short.

I know. It'll be a long gruelling battle, but ah well.

Burrow
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Can someone explain to me why Murray only has a sore back when he's losing points? (whilst being engaged in a close match, earlier on)

This is just one of the reasons why I will never like this person, despite playing as well as he did later on.

SheepleBuster
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
I don't like to see Gasquet ever again. A loser like Mugdasco. Mentally lost it after he gifted Murray the 2nd set. But let's be honest folks. Murray just clowned that guy's ass.

iriraz
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Could u imagine a top player losing the match after beating Murray 6-1 in the first set?Against any top player he probably would have lost second set too(which was a complete gift) and i wouldn`t see him turning it around.
Obviously getting a donation at end of the set and start of the third,got Murray back in the driver seat and things changed.
Gasquet is the kind of player who can start well,and then lose momentum all of a sudden and never get it back

Timariot
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Andy didn't want to write a new script so he decided to go with "Winning With Back Injury II - Now It's Gasquet". Like is often case with sequels, it was exact same as the first part, and did not get very good reviews.

GrantOz44
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
two grinders...yeah it will be short.

Grinder Murray is becoming a thing of the past

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
The Murray of the last 2 sets will not only beat Ferrer, but destroy him! :drool:
If he plays like that right away then Ferrer doesn't stand much chance unless he brings his best as well. Hopefully, it'll be a great match.

zlaja777
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
A man from Scotland toyed with the French boy.

shadows
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Gasquet's joke of a career continues. Pathetic collapse

At least the French have Tsonga, he might clown around but he's got a bit of fight in him

Allez
06-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Gasquet destroyed. This is for all those arrogant gastards who were anticipating a beatdown :haha:

Orka_n
06-04-2012, 07:16 PM
The Murray of the last 2 sets will not only beat Ferrer, but destroy him! :drool:Yes because Ferrer is at the same level as gasquet. :haha:

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:16 PM
Fantastic last two sets from andy, blowing winners from every position. Disgusting crowd.
Gasquet laughed his ass off, good to see he was having fun on court.

ImmzB
06-04-2012, 07:16 PM
Richard! :sad: :sad:

He played a good 1st set to take it 6/1 and in the 2nd Murray started to play better. Richard had BP to serve for the 2nd but couldn't convert.

It was all Murray in set 3 and 4.

It's been a good tournament for Richard, making the 4th round but still can't reach the QF! :(

green25814
06-04-2012, 07:17 PM
Fantastic last two sets from andy, blowing winners from every position. Disgusting crowd.
Gasquet laughed his ass off, good to see he was having fun on court.

Richard seemed embarrassed by the crowd, he's a genuinely nice guy. Too nice, unfortunately for him.

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
Yes because Ferrer is at the same level as gasquet. :haha:
Ferrer's not going to be smashing the ball around and getting winners left and right so Andy will be able to dictate pretty easily if he plays like that.

RNW
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
The last two sets were absolutely amazing from Andy. He just toyed around with Gasquet and destroyed him. Everything was amazing. His lobs, his slice, his dropshots, his forehand, his backhand and his consistency was all amazing. His serve was rather mediocre but that didn't really matter with a ground game as good as that.

True.

Wonderful performance, the last two sets were so endlessly good.
Good tournament from Murray.

In Rome/Madrid in 2011 it looks like he could win against anyone on clay. This year wasn't that well.

But he can beat Ferrer although Ferrer is in great shape.

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
two grinders...yeah it will be short.

Murray was doing anything but grinding today, he played agressive and hit a lot of winners.

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
One of the best Performance in the RG so far.

Drop shots, Forehand Winners,Service Returns,Controlling the Rally like a Rodeo.. You name it.


:clap2:

Rodeo is right- he was riding Richie for all he was worth. :hearts:

Mark Lenders
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
Gasquet's joke of a career continues. Pathetic collapse

At least the French have Tsonga, he might clown around but he's got a bit of fight in him

Yeah. Amazing how Frances produces some of the most awesome and exciting players on tour like Tsonga and Monfils and some of the most mindnumbingly boring like Gasquet and Simon.

Puschkin
06-04-2012, 07:19 PM
Murray simply too good today. In the last two sets he made hardly any errors, served at 70% throught the match which he rarely does. But please, stop talking about an injury.

Richard is normally a good smasher, but Murray's incredible gets harmed his confidence and the DFs at bad moments did not help either. He still seemed to have enjoyed the match, he seems to know well that there is nothing you can do when your opponent is on a roll. He did not stop trying, but today it was not to be.

tennishero
06-04-2012, 07:19 PM
Ferrer's not going to be smashing the ball around and getting winners left and right so Andy will be able to dictate pretty easily if he plays like that.

lol, you think murray has a chance? :haha: :haha:

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:20 PM
Ferrer's not going to be smashing the ball around and getting winners left and right so Andy will be able to dictate pretty easily if he plays like that.

Exactly. He will have to be agressive, but today he already showed very good signs that he is capable of that, even dictating play with some big FH's.

ServeVolley
06-04-2012, 07:20 PM
Last two sets were basically him playing to full potential, and if he does that in the next match he'll get through Ferrer no problem. :)

TigerTim
06-04-2012, 07:20 PM
Last two sets were BEAST. Gasquet collapsed like a cheat pack of cards - as usual. Muzza however was unreal. The movements, tactics and hands were beast and his return, BOOM - "your fucked Richy" he should have roared. Ferrer will be a good match though I think muzza will lose it should be close.

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 07:21 PM
Thats my worry. No five set epic please. Someone's gotta fucking test Nadal. This is ridiculous

With Nadal's luck it will be 15-13 in the fifth. :sad:

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:21 PM
lol, you think murray has a chance? :haha: :haha:

You obviously think that's funny. Let's talk again afterwards.

Sillyrabbit
06-04-2012, 07:21 PM
Murray was doing anything but grinding today, he played agressive and hit a lot of winners.

Sheesh, because it was against Gasquet who had checked out after the 2nd set, though Murray was still really good no doubt. If Ferrer turns up and Murray plays this amazing against him, I'll gladly applaud him.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 07:22 PM
Last two sets were basically him playing to full potential, and if he does that in the next match he'll get through Ferrer no problem. :)

Yes. The "If" is key though.

Murray seems not to have access to that level except at random. He was unbelievably useless in the first set today, then gets on top, but immediately donates the break back.

Do that against Ferrer and he'd have lost the match before he found top gear.

Moozza
06-04-2012, 07:22 PM
How good were those last two sets? The lack of 'pushray' or 'mugray' comments on this thread tells the story.

The forehand, backhand, return, serve, dropshots were all very good.

fast_clay
06-04-2012, 07:23 PM
like any great Sith Lord, using extreme negativity in feigning injury to get under the goat of wannabe jedi and his poncy legion of followers in crowd...

it worked...

and when The Tradesman opens up the tool box and opts for Troll The French, the result is a big http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm320whiteflag.gif

masterful from the scot

homogenius
06-04-2012, 07:23 PM
Richard lost his mind at the end of the 2nd set and never recovered.anti-climatic match really

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:24 PM
lol, you think murray has a chance? :haha: :haha:
If Murray plays like he did in those last two sets, Ferrer is the one who won't stand much chance.

NJ88
06-04-2012, 07:24 PM
Murray started very slowly which is something he needs to cut out, he tends to do it a lot. He takes more time than others to get used to conditions. That's what happened in the first set, Gasquet started quickly, Murray very slowly. Second set was very even with Murray pulling out some great shots towards the end of it to take it.

Last two sets though...wow. Murray was pretty much unstoppable. THAT is how he needs to play. He was going for shots and was making them, he was hitting all the shots you know he can, the dropshot, lob, big forehand, backhand but with so much more conviction than he often does. He played so, so well. I'd like to see more of that. Gasquet being a mental midget helped Murray but it woud be naive to put Murrays play down to Gasquet playing badly.

The Murray from the last two sets will beat Ferrer, the Murray from the first set won't.

NID
06-04-2012, 07:25 PM
watched only the last two sets, murray was awesome.
let's hope he gets to the semi.

muxiu
06-04-2012, 07:25 PM
someone is so disgusting

tangerine_dream
06-04-2012, 07:27 PM
The Drama Queen at it again.

Richie :explode:

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:27 PM
Today was actually a display of how good Murray can play and how he has to play to be up there with top three, a fine combination of tactics, feel, good accelerations and almost no UE's.

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 07:27 PM
I really hope their are HQ highlights from this match- He had like 3 lobs in the last set that were unbelievable.

prezidont
06-04-2012, 07:27 PM
Does Murray have any fans outside of the UK :lol:

I don't care for either player but did he do a shit on the back of his leg?!?

Johnbert
06-04-2012, 07:28 PM
whats up with murray? another 1-6 in 1st set, just to trash the player in the following 3 sets... :confused:

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:28 PM
someone is so disgusting
Keep whining :baby: :baby:

So many babies on this forum :baby:

Li Ching Yuen
06-04-2012, 07:28 PM
Legs just too thick from Murray.

out_grinder
06-04-2012, 07:29 PM
The reception Murray got from the French crowd was the reception he should get from EVERY crowd: applauding his service faults, booing when he comes onto the court, booing if he wins, booing throughout the interview, hissing if he makes a winner...etc...

That was great!! Keep it up, France

out_grinder
06-04-2012, 07:29 PM
Does Murray have any fans outside of the UK :lol:

I don't care for either player but did he do a shit on the back of his leg?!?

Nope, and most people in the UK either hate him or don't know who he is

prezidont
06-04-2012, 07:30 PM
Nope, and most people in the UK either hate him or don't know who he is

bullshit, I've been in the uk during wimbledon and can't seem to watch a match without seeing his face creep in every 2-3 minutes.

probably hate him due to this...

fivebargate
06-04-2012, 07:31 PM
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Alex999
06-04-2012, 07:31 PM
Murray played a really good match. I thought there was something wrong with him in the first set because he kept touching his back. and then, he was just amazing ... lol ... poor Richie, feel bad for him tho.

Sunset of Age
06-04-2012, 07:31 PM
Dominating performance in the last two sets by Murray but I cannot help but get a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth from this talk about him having an injury.
Back spasms? Strange they only occur when he's 'losing'. Most usually back troubles affect a player's ability to serve - unless I've missed something (which I admit may have been the case), I've seen nothing of the kind later on in the match...

That said, might Gasquet have fallen into the same trap as Nieminen did earlier on? That leaves a lot of questions about his mental fortitude but hey, that's nothing new... :rolleyes:

Hmmm. Sorry Muzza-fans, but I'm hoping for Ferrer to reach the semis. No hard feelings though. :wavey:

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:33 PM
The reception Murray got from the French crowd was the reception he should get from EVERY crowd: applauding his service faults, booing when he comes onto the court, booing if he wins, booing throughout the interview, hissing if he makes a winner...etc...

That was great!! Keep it up, France
The amazing performance must've been too much for you to handle.

"Murray's career is over" :lol:

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 07:34 PM
Dominating performance in the last two sets by Murray but I cannot help but get a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth from this talk about him having an injury.
Back spasms? Strange they only occur when he's 'losing'. Most usually back troubles affect a player's ability to serve - unless I've missed something (which I admit may have been the case), I've seen nothing of the kind later on in the match...



He's said that was a one-off against Nieminen. It was pretty dramatically different from anythbing before or since: he could barely move, served at 60mph etc.

He's had back _pain_, a niggle only, since the end of last year. That's separate from the spasms. He's also said that's not serious, ie that it's just a little pain rather than an injury, and doesn't affect his performance.

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:35 PM
He's said that was a one-off against Nieminen. It was pretty dramatically different from anythbing before or since: he could barely move, served at 60mph etc.

He's had back _pain_, a niggle only, since the end of last year. That's separate from the spasms. He's also said that's not serious, ie that it's just a little pain rather than an injury, and doesn't affect his performance.

This is it. Everybody accusing Murray of faking should read this post first.

green25814
06-04-2012, 07:36 PM
Does Murray have any fans outside of the UK :lol:

I don't care for either player but did he do a shit on the back of his leg?!?

I'm a fan of his :bigclap:

Could care less about a player's personality. Not that I think Murray has a bad one, he seems quite a boring man, like most sportsmen. I only care about the game.

Schu
06-04-2012, 07:36 PM
Some things never change - RIchard let the "injured only when I miss a point" Scot get under his skin and completely lost the plot letting Murray get on a roll that left Richard once again in the dust.

Gasquet is just too nice a guy to compete with a @#$# like Murray. About the meanest thing I've seen Richard do was that handshake at the end but it was deserved. No Murray didn't cheat and there is nothing "wrong" with what he did and yes Gasquet was a mental midget for letting it bother him but it was and always will be a classless act by Murray.

But hey it's not how you play the game - it's whether you win or loose...

Sapeod
06-04-2012, 07:36 PM
Really, the only part of Murray's game that was anything but amazing was his serve which was good, but not great. It just started the points most of the time, but since Gasquet returns about 400 metres behind the baseline it didn't matter if it was good or not.

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:39 PM
I'm a fan of his :bigclap:

Could care less about a player's personality. Not that I think Murray has a bad one, he seems quite a boring man, like most sportsmen. I only care about the game.

More people should do that. Everybody here is always going on about faking, cheating and all that, which is dominating the debates about the actual matches and players. There should be more tennis talk here, less crap from haters hating on the players they don't like and fanboys drooling all over their favs, not enough objective people.

Moozza
06-04-2012, 07:41 PM
Dominating performance in the last two sets by Murray but I cannot help but get a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth from this talk about him having an injury.
Back spasms? Strange they only occur when he's 'losing'. Most usually back troubles affect a player's ability to serve - unless I've missed something (which I admit may have been the case), I've seen nothing of the kind later on in the match...

That said, might Gasquet have fallen into the same trap as Nieminen did earlier on? That leaves a lot of questions about his mental fortitude but hey, that's nothing new... :rolleyes:

Hmmm. Sorry Muzza-fans, but I'm hoping for Ferrer to reach the semis. No hard feelings though. :wavey:

The back spasms have gone, they were separate from the long term injury.

TigerTim
06-04-2012, 07:41 PM
I find Murray to have quite a good sense of humour on occasion. he just seems a bit shy.

Clydey
06-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Dominating performance in the last two sets by Murray but I cannot help but get a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth from this talk about him having an injury.
Back spasms? Strange they only occur when he's 'losing'. Most usually back troubles affect a player's ability to serve - unless I've missed something (which I admit may have been the case), I've seen nothing of the kind later on in the match...

That said, might Gasquet have fallen into the same trap as Nieminen did earlier on? That leaves a lot of questions about his mental fortitude but hey, that's nothing new... :rolleyes:

Hmmm. Sorry Muzza-fans, but I'm hoping for Ferrer to reach the semis. No hard feelings though. :wavey:

They don't only occur when he's losing. He had them against Niemenen and hasn't had them since. Courier got it spot on. Murray always touches body parts during matches. Why do people act surprised when he does it? You know he's injured when he calls the trainer. When he clutches a body part? That's just a reflex. He never, ever claims he's injured when he does that.

How often do you see him actually call for the trainer, though? Only Federer calls for the trainer less often than Andy.

Jade Fox
06-04-2012, 07:44 PM
the mentally tougher player won. Once again Richard started hot against Andy, but shot his load early.

Note to self: Never have sex with Gasquet if the opportunity presents itself.

Roadmap
06-04-2012, 07:44 PM
:spit: French Open should give tickets to local school children and they would get a more mature crowd. Murray puts on a display like that, with such quality and variety, and all they can do is moan. :o

pascal'rG
06-04-2012, 07:44 PM
What a clown this murray....simulating to break the focus of the opponent....be a man and play without all the mental shit !

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 07:45 PM
I don't get it- Murray didn't take a MTO while Gasquet was serving to stay in the set or something Nadalesque right? I don't know why everyone is freaking out. And for the record I've seen Murray clutch himself when winning comfortably and losing a blow out and everything in between- it doesn't seem to help him more often than not, so if it's a tactic it's a pretty shitty one. It's hardly a strategic MTO.

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 07:46 PM
I find Murray to have quite a good sense of humour on occasion. he just seems a bit shy.

Yeah he had fun with the Aussie crowd. It is a bit much to expect him to be Mr. bubbly with the French crowd booing him.

rocketassist
06-04-2012, 07:46 PM
I find Murray to have quite a good sense of humour on occasion. he just seems a bit shy.

He's very working class 'Northern'- that's why I don't think he gets full support at Wimbledon because them down south would rather a little Englander with an upper class tone was representing them.

Alex999
06-04-2012, 07:47 PM
Some things never change - RIchard let the "injured only when I miss a point" Scot get under his skin and completely lost the plot letting Murray get on a roll that left Richard once again in the dust.

Gasquet is just too nice a guy to compete with a @#$# like Murray. About the meanest thing I've seen Richard do was that handshake at the end but it was deserved. No Murray didn't cheat and there is nothing "wrong" with what he did and yes Gasquet was a mental midget for letting it bother him but it was and always will be a classless act by Murray.

But hey it's not how you play the game - it's whether you win or loose...
lol, good post, that's how I felt too. I love both players btw, but Murray was something today. I didn't think he was going to finish the match because of his back, and then suddenly he is running out of his mind, hitting winners, lol ...

Nr 1 Fan
06-04-2012, 07:47 PM
I find Murray to have quite a good sense of humour on occasion. he just seems a bit shy.

Of course he has :p you know the 'go out and get hammered quote', right? :D

born_on_clay
06-04-2012, 07:48 PM
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rocketassist
06-04-2012, 07:49 PM
Murray the #heel. Should come out on Wednesday to this:

iH62Mydu_bQ

ballbasher101
06-04-2012, 07:50 PM
Murray was on fire at the end. Keep it up future champ :worship:.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 07:51 PM
lol, good post, that's how I felt too. I love both players btw, but Murray was something today. I didn't think he was going to finish the match because of his back....

Seriously? It was obvious it was nothing.

This is a guy who's retired once in his career, five years ago, and that was when he was thrashing Volandri - he snapped wrist ligaments that made it impossible to hold a racket, and left him out for several months.

If a player wants to distract the opponent, they take a tactical MTO. Murray never does that, unlike several other players (eg Nadal, who does it every time he's losing in a slam).

pascal'rG
06-04-2012, 07:52 PM
He just exasperate everyone with his really bad and immature attitude....now i lost all respect i had for him and the crowd too....
He will regret it when the crowd will push Ferrer to punish him !

Fireballer
06-04-2012, 07:52 PM
Murray was on fire at the end. Keep it up future champ :worship:.

LOL

Sunset of Age
06-04-2012, 07:52 PM
They don't only occur when he's losing. He had them against Niemenen and hasn't had them since. Courier got it spot on. Murray always touches body parts during matches. Why do people act surprised when he does it? You know he's injured when he calls the trainer. When he clutches a body part? That's just a reflex. He never, ever claims he's injured when he does that.
Okay, you have a point - indeed he's always clutching body parts, looks like a 'tic' just like other players feel the need to put their hair behind their ears, touch their noses, dig in certain other body parts and ask for the towel after every point played, even when it's barely 10 degrees C above zero. :p

I may just have heard/read a few commentators, blogs & newspapers mention his 'injury' a mite too often... and to be honest in the first set against both Nieminen and Gasquet today it looked like it indeed may have been the case. At least Murray tricked me just as much he did his opponents in those matches I sort-of believed those reports, which looked like rather genuine judging on what I witnessed myself. :o
For now I just hope that IF he happens to lose his match against Ferrer, noone will bring it up again!

Talking about commentators - I had the 'pleasure' to listen to British Eurosport commies on my livestream and :help: :tape: :help:

How often do you see him actually call for the trainer, though? Only Federer calls for the trainer less often than Andy.

That's true indeed.

Roger the Dodger
06-04-2012, 07:56 PM
If a player wants to distract the opponent, they take a tactical MTO. Murray never does that, unlike several other players (eg Nadal, who does it every time he's losing in a slam).

Quoted for Truth. :worship:

Alex999
06-04-2012, 08:18 PM
Seriously? It was obvious it was nothing.

This is a guy who's retired once in his career, five years ago, and that was when he was thrashing Volandri - he snapped wrist ligaments that made it impossible to hold a racket, and left him out for several months.

If a player wants to distract the opponent, they take a tactical MTO. Murray never does that, unlike several other players (eg Nadal, who does it every time he's losing in a slam).
it was not obvious at all ... I guess you and I have a different perception about the whole thing ... I was really worried about Murray. I hate injuries. He was touching/holding his back after almost every point in the first set. I've never seen him doing that before. considering the fact that he skipped Madrid because of his back injury, I thought something was really wrong.

abraxas21
06-04-2012, 08:21 PM
keep going, andy.

GSMnadal
06-04-2012, 08:23 PM
Wow, just saw that point Andy won at 2-0 40-15 :eek:

That was something I've never seen before :bowdown:

Alex999
06-04-2012, 08:26 PM
Wow, just saw that point Andy won at 2-0 40-15 :eek:

That was something I've never seen before :bowdown:
Murray played some fantastic tennis today. I've never seen him playing so well on clay. Honestly, I'm kinda shocked.

samanosuke
06-04-2012, 08:29 PM
murray finally put his shits together but now has to face ferrer. tio winning again

Horatio Caine
06-04-2012, 08:32 PM
Didn't see the match, but the scoreline and text commentary says it all. That is why Gasquet is in the lower end of the top 20, and unable to challenge for any decent title; and why Murray has spent as long as he has in the very top tier.

Murray said it himself yesterday - keep Gasquet out and wear him down. He broke the man, mentally, in the 9th game of the second set, and the rest was history.

Good job, and he gets a nice challenge in playing Ferrer on Wednesday.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 08:32 PM
it was not obvious at all ... I guess you and I have a different perception about the whole thing ... I was really worried about Murray. I hate injuries. He was touching/holding his back after almost every point in the first set.

Oh ok, I get you.

He's done that a lot this season (used to be the knee), but just the TV was focusing on it today because of all the media fuss, both in Britain and France. It really wasn't a problem at all afaics - we'll see based on what he says in the interview of course, but I got the impression early in the 2nd he was pretty confident.

He's already said the spasms of the Nieminen match were something else entirely, and unrelated to the longer term issue.


For me, all this "faker" nonsense really misunderstand Murray - if anything, he's always been far too expressive on court, so everything you see in his body language is exactly what he's feeling inside. When he's up, it's obvious, bouncing around, light on the toes etc. When he's down, he mopes, droops around court, feels his knee/back/whatever, gives huge hope to the opponent. Just so, so self-destructive, but then perhaps also the same perfectionist element of his character that drives him to train so hard.

From what I've heard, they're trying to get him to disguise his emotions better, even to level out the internal rollercoaster a bit. Maybe a bit late in the career for that, who knows.

Allez
06-04-2012, 08:34 PM
I have to say it was painful witnessing Gasquet's mental collapse. Murray was just relentless. Inventing shots and dragging Richie's ass all over the place :lol:

Filo V.
06-04-2012, 08:34 PM
Time for David to handle his business in the quarters.

Certinfy
06-04-2012, 08:36 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/34o3fah.jpg

Whoever wrote that needs to be shot. Gasquet wasn't even that good in the first set, Murray was just awful. :facepalm:

Allez
06-04-2012, 08:39 PM
Richie watching big screen replays of Murray clutching his back and then getting upset by it :haha: Obviously no one has bothered teaching Gasquet that your focus determines your reality :rolleyes:

*Jean*
06-04-2012, 08:40 PM
Murray being the drama queen again, touching his back when he loses points.

Vamos, David.

Il Primo Uomo
06-04-2012, 08:42 PM
Hope he destroys Pics now. Go on Andrew.

Tutu
06-04-2012, 08:44 PM
This is it. Everybody accusing Murray of faking should read this post first.
Regardless of whether it's a tic or whatever, he was clearly only clutching his back after losing points, so much so that it became hilarious. He did it through the first two sets, including that final game of set two where it got to a point where he was literally alternating between sprinting around the court and fistpumping the points he won, then leaning over and holding his back while grimacing on the points he lost. There was not a peep from him in set 3, but then when Gasquet tried the shock 'n' awe tactics at the beginning of set 4 and he lost that deuce point, he clutched it again.

The RG crowd are generally disgusting, but he brought all the booing on himself. :shrug:

Just like heaven
06-04-2012, 08:44 PM
It might be just my imagination but I think he enjoyed having the crowd cheer against him.

Allez
06-04-2012, 08:46 PM
Murray thrived on the booing. Loved it, so bring it on :yeah:

Looner
06-04-2012, 08:48 PM
It might be just my imagination but I think he enjoyed having the crowd cheer against him.

Might this be why Lendl's sticking with him. Is he actually starting to develop some tennis balls? Or will he falter in the SF against RN once again? I'd really like to see that. I hope Muzz gets some aggression lessons from Lendl - no way can he beat Nadal by admiring him so much.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 08:49 PM
It might be just my imagination but I think he enjoyed having the crowd cheer against him.

No doubt, he loves that. When he played an injured Simon in Monte Carlo, dropshotted him once, Simon struggled to get to it, crowd booed. Murray grins, does it again, taunts the crowd, booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Then again, and again, and again. Clearly drew some strength from it, the expression on his face was like a fatty with a chocolate cake.

Found my screencap at the time:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=10939068&postcount=109

Ashlar77
06-04-2012, 08:53 PM
Andy dominating the last two and a half sets like a boss. :armed: The Forehand! :hearts: Shitty handshake from Richie, disappointing. :(

Nole fan
06-04-2012, 08:55 PM
One of the best Performance in the RG so far.

Drop shots, Forehand Winners,Service Returns,Controlling the Rally like a Rodeo.. You name it.


:clap2:

And how do you explain a 1-6? I wouldn't call that a clinical destruction.

Sunset of Age
06-04-2012, 08:56 PM
It might be just my imagination but I think he enjoyed having the crowd cheer against him.

It wasn't your imagination. He actually did. ;)
I daresay it's one of his more likeable treats. :devil: :angel:

Puschkin
06-04-2012, 08:56 PM
Richie watching big screen replays of Murray clutching his back and then getting upset by it :haha: Obviously no one has bothered teaching Gasquet that your focus determines your reality :rolleyes:

Like Berdych and del Potro's knee? :p

Allez
06-04-2012, 08:56 PM
Andy dominating the last two and a half sets like a boss. :armed: The Forehand! :hearts: Shitty handshake from Richie, disappointing. :(

Yeah that was disappointing to see. He's usually a classy loser.

shadows
06-04-2012, 09:00 PM
And how do you explain a 1-6? I wouldn't call that a clinical destruction.

The first set was a clinical destruction too! =p

Shame about the catastrophic implosion after...

Nole fan
06-04-2012, 09:04 PM
The problem with Murray is that he can play a match like this, absolutely brilliant, and play shit next. I don't have any expectations for him in this tournament.

decrepitude
06-04-2012, 09:07 PM
I'm really, truly baffled by all the talk of back clutching in the first set (didn't see the second). As a long term and fervid Murray fan, I was really worried about his back, but watching the first set I could see no sign of problems and very few occasions of him clutching it. Despite him playing dreadfully, hitting everything long, wide or in the net, I totally relaxed health-wise. It was completely different to the Nieminen match where a dedicated Murray-watcher could tell from the way he walked on court, holding himself stiffly and taking shorter steps than usual, that there was a problem - and that was before it got really bad and he could hardly stand, was patting first serves over at 60mph.

Few of you must ever have suffered from back spasms. I have, and I can confirm that they are excruciating for a while, and then they ease. Today there was no sign that he had any problem other than mild niggles.

Anyway as others have said, and as commentators frequently say, he is always clutching at something (and yes, he DOES do it after winning shots as well). I say he is not doing it to put the opponent off, others say he is, but in either case it is up to the opponent to take care of his own business. If anything, it should encourage them!

latso
06-04-2012, 09:07 PM
Murray touching his back, Rafa touching his arse...excuses, excuses..

This match can be described in 2 words - brains > talent

Perfect tactics from the Brit, dunno how much has Lendl to do with that, but this drop-lob-passing-winner-moonball variety terrorized Richy so much he was close to retire from tennis.

Excellent and beauiful to watch, kinda old school technical tennis.

But that won't work against Ferru and i just can't see what in Muzza's arsenal could actually work against this guy.

I just can't imagine how on Earth could Murray win his next match, looks impossible to me, call me crazy...

He'll have to use full power serving, agressive, attacking tennis and i fear this ain't working against Ferru. The drop-lob thing is doomed for sure, so it will have to be attacking tennis.

I believe Muzza will just retire in the middle of the second or third set because of touching his bakc too many times, smth like 4-6 1-3 and retire.

Can't wait for Rafa - Ferru semi, this could be an epic one.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 09:08 PM
The problem with Murray is that he can play a match like this, absolutely brilliant, and play shit next.

Yup.

In a sense, what happened in the 3rd/4th sets wasn't real tennis, not really representative of anything. It's just a once a season exception that occurs out of nowhere, where a better player hits a perfect equilibrium in their game and duffs up a weaker one. Gasquet even had the same thing against Haas in the latter sets, didn't do him much good today.

Lopez
06-04-2012, 09:08 PM
Murray played amazing the last two sets. People are talking about the handshake being cold, what happened exactly? The Finnish commentator said that the French commentator overheard Gasquet calling Murray a "great actor" during the match :lol:. Not sure if it's true.

I was hoping Ferrer could reach his first RG SF but now I'm not so sure. If Murray plays to the best of his capabilities, he could give even Nadal a tough match. Still, hope Ferrer wins on Wednesday :p

Corey Feldman
06-04-2012, 09:08 PM
Muzza :D

now i'm finally over that beating Gasquet gave Murray in Bercy 2007

Corey Feldman
06-04-2012, 09:09 PM
The problem with Murray is that he can play a match like this, absolutely brilliant, and play shit next. I don't have any expectations for him in this tournament.did you see him smile at the end, what a smile you will agree

Nole fan
06-04-2012, 09:12 PM
did you see him smile at the end, what a smile you will agree

What? :lol:

Corey Feldman
06-04-2012, 09:20 PM
and next time give Murray a proper handshake Gascoke you yellow belly, dont blame anyone else for your wimpish cop outs in the middle of matches - you've been doing it for 7 years

timafi
06-04-2012, 09:20 PM
and the winner of the Academy Award in Lead Actor For Drama goes to? Andy Murray

Moozza
06-04-2012, 09:25 PM
Yup.

In a sense, what happened in the 3rd/4th sets wasn't real tennis, not really representative of anything. It's just a once a season exception that occurs out of nowhere, where a better player hits a perfect equilibrium in their game and duffs up a weaker one. Gasquet even had the same thing against Haas in the latter sets, didn't do him much good today.

This.

I do think Murray has a chance against Ferrer but I'm not basing that too much on those last 2 sets today.

MuzzahLovah
06-04-2012, 09:31 PM
The problem with Murray is that he can play a match like this, absolutely brilliant, and play shit next. I don't have any expectations for him in this tournament.

I love your sig pic. :hearts:

Schu
06-04-2012, 09:35 PM
Yeah that was disappointing to see. He's usually a classy loser.

Richard usually is - he's had lots of practice at that (sorry Richie, love ya, but true). However hard to be a classy looser when your opponent has NO class as a winner - I rather liked that from Richard today - it was the appropriate response to the show from Murray.

nole_no1
06-04-2012, 09:36 PM
Ferrer to take out the trash

MurrayMagic1
06-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Why does everyone feel that Ferrer will take out Murray LOL. In straights hahaha Sure Ferrer is a great player and competitor but so far in this tournament he hasn't been tested once. Andy is more match hardened and I think he'll beat Ferrer in 3. Andy is a different player in a GS event.As long as Andy serves well.. he will win. He has too much variety in his game. Ferrer might cause him trouble and it might be a tough match. Andy to win in 3 :) CMON!! Muzza! Great performance by Andy today I was very impressed particularly with his forehand and his great attitude towards the disrespectful and disgusting French Crowd. They would boo at anything..

reery
06-04-2012, 09:58 PM
Nid.

out_grinder
06-04-2012, 10:05 PM
Mugray matches always result in the weirdest scorelines

Nole fan
06-04-2012, 10:07 PM
I think Murray will take Ferrer but will fall in straight sets against Nadal. Anyway, strong tournament for Andy. :yeah:

TigerTim
06-04-2012, 10:08 PM
Mugray matches always result in the weirdest scorelines

looks like a WTA score to me :lol:

1-6, 6-4, 6-1

scoobs
06-04-2012, 10:15 PM
I think Murray loved it out there. He came out, was announced, and the crowd booed him like he had a nerve even showing up against Gasquet - and he grinned, just a little. He loves that - it gives him a bit of a boxing vibe and he feeds off it - he doesn't mind playing the heel on court.

When they booed him later at one point in the second set for putting his hand to his back, he turned back to get his towel, and this grin lit up his face again. I was in hysterics, I find this so hilarious when it happens. Like when he dropshotted Simon on Monte Carlo and was booed for that - I laughed like a drain.

Murray played an awful first set, with Gasquet pulling him around and Murray missing the most extraordinarily simple forehands. But he got into it in the second with better play, was able to snatch it as Gasquet faltered, then it was one way traffic. Murray played some very good tennis in sets 3 and 4, but it doesn't seem like Gasquet was thinking out there any longer and that does make it easier.

As for his back touching - it's been said many times, in many matches - he is ALWAYS clutching at something or other - it's almost like a reflex action - an "are you still there, still okay?" type response after a point. It means nothing - if he's injured he will call a trainer and not before. If a player (or the fans) want to read more into it and get themselves all distracted or wound up by it - its THEIR problem, not his. Most players have tics and habits - Rafa's bottles, butt-picking and Djokovic's ball-bouncing, grunting, injury timeouts, etc. Some accuse them of using it for gamesmanship too but in the end as the player you have to be responsible for keeping your shit together and not letting things distract you. Gamesmanship is very easy to accuse people of and very hard to prove, and in the end you have to shut up and deal with it.

As for the next match, Murray's gonna need his set 3 and 4 form, he's gonna need it early, and he's gonna need it to stick around for 3 or 4 hours or more, if he wants to win. Murray has never beaten a top 8 guy on clay and he's going to have to work like a bitch to earn his first one. It won't be easy, Ferrer has to be the favourite, but he handled Gasquet like a boss so he's in at least a good shape to give it a go.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-04-2012, 10:17 PM
anti tennis wins again

fuckin shame but what can u do

Jade Fox
06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
I think Murray loved it out there. He came out, was announced, and the crowd booed him like he had a nerve even showing up against Gasquet - and he grinned, just a little. He loves that - it gives him a bit of a boxing vibe and he feeds off it - he doesn't mind playing the heel on court.

When they booed him later at one point in the second set for putting his hand to his back, he turned back to get his towel, and this grin lit up his face again. I was in hysterics, I find this so hilarious when it happens. Like when he dropshotted Simon on Monte Carlo and was booed for that - I laughed like a drain.

Murray played an awful first set, with Gasquet pulling him around and Murray missing the most extraordinarily simple forehands. But he got into it in the second with better play, was able to snatch it as Gasquet faltered, then it was one way traffic. Murray played some very good tennis in sets 3 and 4, but it doesn't seem like Gasquet was thinking out there any longer and that does make it easier.

As for his back touching - it's been said many times, in many matches - he is ALWAYS clutching at something or other - it's almost like a reflex action - an "are you still there, still okay?" type response after a point. It means nothing - if he's injured he will call a trainer and not before. If a player (or the fans) want to read more into it and get themselves all distracted or wound up by it - its THEIR problem, not his. Most players have tics and habits - Rafa's bottles, butt-picking and Djokovic's ball-bouncing, grunting, injury timeouts, etc. Some accuse them of using it for gamesmanship too but in the end as the player you have to be responsible for keeping your shit together and not letting things distract you. Gamesmanship is very easy to accuse people of and very hard to prove, and in the end you have to shut up and deal with it.

As for the next match, Murray's gonna need his set 3 and 4 form, he's gonna need it early, and he's gonna need it to stick around for 3 or 4 hours or more, if he wants to win. Murray has never beaten a top 8 guy on clay and he's going to have to work like a bitch to earn his first one. It won't be easy, Ferrer has to be the favourite, but he handled Gasquet like a boss so he's in at least a good shape to give it a go.


This post, I want to marry it.

I especially agree about the accusations of gamesmanship. You know the one thing the top four players have in common despite having different games and personalities? Ruthlessness. Whenever they see an opponent down for the count do they let up? Hell no! They finish him off so whatever hope the opponent has in getting back into the match is crushed. Rafa did it today and so did Andy. I've seen them all do it on a regular basis.

Is it nice? Not really, but if you want to be a top player on the ATP these days you need some steel and little empathy for your opponents while on court. And you sure as hell can't let whatever your opponent does on the other side of the net bother you. You gotta focus on your own game. That's just the reality of tennis today.

TigerTim
06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
I think Murray loved it out there. He came out, was announced, and the crowd booed him like he had a nerve even showing up against Gasquet - and he grinned, just a little. He loves that - it gives him a bit of a boxing vibe and he feeds off it - he doesn't mind playing the heel on court.

When they booed him later at one point in the second set for putting his hand to his back, he turned back to get his towel, and this grin lit up his face again. I was in hysterics, I find this so hilarious when it happens. Like when he dropshotted Simon on Monte Carlo and was booed for that - I laughed like a drain.

Murray played an awful first set, with Gasquet pulling him around and Murray missing the most extraordinarily simple forehands. But he got into it in the second with better play, was able to snatch it as Gasquet faltered, then it was one way traffic. Murray played some very good tennis in sets 3 and 4, but it doesn't seem like Gasquet was thinking out there any longer and that does make it easier.

As for his back touching - it's been said many times, in many matches - he is ALWAYS clutching at something or other - it's almost like a reflex action - an "are you still there, still okay?" type response after a point. It means nothing - if he's injured he will call a trainer and not before. If a player (or the fans) want to read more into it and get themselves all distracted or wound up by it - its THEIR problem, not his. Most players have tics and habits - Rafa's bottles, butt-picking and Djokovic's ball-bouncing, grunting, injury timeouts, etc. Some accuse them of using it for gamesmanship too but in the end as the player you have to be responsible for keeping your shit together and not letting things distract you. Gamesmanship is very easy to accuse people of and very hard to prove, and in the end you have to shut up and deal with it.

As for the next match, Murray's gonna need his set 3 and 4 form, he's gonna need it early, and he's gonna need it to stick around for 3 or 4 hours or more, if he wants to win. Murray has never beaten a top 8 guy on clay and he's going to have to work like a bitch to earn his first one. It won't be easy, Ferrer has to be the favourite, but he handled Gasquet like a boss so he's in at least a good shape to give it a go.

:eek: an intelligent posting regarding Murray. Well done sir, there have been a few today but none more true that this. :)

SerialKillerToBe
06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
whats up with murray? another 1-6 in 1st set, just to trash the player in the following 3 sets... :confused:

Murray's strategy has always been lowering his opponent's quality to his own.

Smoke944
06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
Nothing better than Nadal fans accusing Murray of embellishing an injury :lol:

Nole fan
06-04-2012, 10:29 PM
Great posts scoobs and jade fox. :D

I don't know how people can say that Murray has no personality or that he's dull. He's one of the most entertaining and humorous guys on the tour. I guess not everyone gets British humor (sorry, i mean Scottish). :p

star
06-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Why do people get their panties in a twist when anyone mentions that Murray indulges in gamesmanship? Murray loves to get in a player’s head and loves to wind them up. It’s something that sometimes costs him matches because the way he likes to play and likes to win is to toy with a player. Sometimes this gets him in trouble. So much of how a people play tennis is an extension of their personality. Murray loved sticking it to the fan today.

Some find this hilarious and appreciate this form of humor.

philosophicalarf
06-04-2012, 10:50 PM
anti tennis wins again


Except ...... Murray hit twice the number of winners Gasquet did.

By comparison with the other quarter finalists:

Murray 59 winners in 32 games
Federer 59 in 42
Tsonga 49 in 51
Djokovic 45 in 53
Almagro 43 in 30
Ferrer 41 in 23
Del Potro 35 in 41
Nadal 23 in 20


Winners/game:

Murray 1.84
Ferrer 1.78
Almagro 1.43
Federer 1.40
Nadal 1.15
Tsonga 0.96
Del Potro 0.85
Djokovic 0.85

TigerTim
06-04-2012, 10:51 PM
Murray 59 winners, Gasquet 31 winners ... and these are short sets too, only 32 games, and in very cold/damp conditions. By comparison with the other quarter finalists....

Murray 59 winners in 32 games
Federer 59 in 42
Tsonga 49 in 51
Djokovic 45 in 53
Almagro 43 in 30
Ferrer 41 in 23
Del Potro 35 in 41
Nadal 23 in 20


Winners/game:

Murray 1.84
Ferrer 1.78
Almagro 1.43
Federer 1.40
Nadal 1.15
Tsonga 0.96
Del Potro 0.85
Djokovic 0.85
no no, you must be wrong, you see murray is a pusher who is incapable of attack (i am a Nadull fan btw) :rolleyes:

EDIT: BTW, this was Andy's 12th straight victory over the French in slams!

Singularity
06-04-2012, 11:21 PM
Surprising how low Nadal's winner ratio is, given the score.

Moozza
06-04-2012, 11:23 PM
Same score as nieminem match

Wing Man Frank
06-04-2012, 11:28 PM
Impossible to read anything into this match.

Gasquet was an absolute disgrace. He's unfit and an embarrassment to the sport. For any of you capable of re-watching the match, look at the difference in their body language at the changeover in the first set with Gasquet 4-1 up. He sits down and is blowing out of his arse looking extremely tired whereas Murray is as comfortable as can be.

Gasquet's clearly far too busy worrying about how pretty his backhand looks rather than bothering to put in the hard yards off-court.

Jimnik
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
Never in doubt. The (slightly) mentally stronger player came through. Gasquet did well to make it this far with his French nerve.

duong
06-04-2012, 11:46 PM
Very impressed about Murray's performance in last two sets :eek:

Congrats Andy :clap2:

doublebackhand
06-04-2012, 11:53 PM
The moment of truth in two days.

StevoTG
06-04-2012, 11:58 PM
Murray looked very good in the last two sets. Ferrer should be a much tougher ask but today was certainly the best Murray has played on clay this year.

EddceLLent
06-05-2012, 12:05 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/eddcassels/muzgas.jpg

He obviously started the match well but I started to use the energy from the crowd in a positive way and obviously turned it around and played very well the last few sets.

It's the most fun I've had on the court in a while, so I wasn't shying away from the fact that the crowd wanted me to lose.

AndyUK
06-05-2012, 12:11 AM
Great last couple of sets from Murray, he showed that he is the better player. Really looking forward to his match with Ferrer, should be good.

Gagsquet
06-05-2012, 01:38 AM
First set was wonderful from Gasquet. Classic tennis, he just outplayed Murray in all the departments.
Murray was playing average. Not enough to challenge Goatsquet.
Then Murray played better and started winning his service games.
At 4-4 in the 2nd, Gasquet did a Gasquet and was not able to take advantage of three break points. Then obviously Murray made the break next game. Turning point of the match.
In the next sets, Murray was awesome, just awesome and Gasquet was pretty average. Same situation reversed than first set. At this point, the outcome was predictable and no miracle saved the Frenchie.
Kudos to Murray for his insane level of play from the third set. Gasquet's inability to broke at 4-4 helps too.

Oh I forgot :devil: FUCK YOU IDIOT SCOT FOR TOUCHING YOUR BACK ONLY WHEN YOU WERE LOSING POINTS. CHEATER.

Gagsquet
06-05-2012, 01:53 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ss6cgTXN1r7r6x5.gif

Topspindoctor
06-05-2012, 01:54 AM
Pushray looking well on course for another SF spanking :yeah:

Tennis-Life
06-05-2012, 01:54 AM
I just turned off TV after 1-set, Murray was horrible (pushing, waiting errors). How he managed to win I have no idea. :superlol:

MuzzahLovah
06-05-2012, 01:59 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ss6cgTXN1r7r6x5.gif

:haha:
Finally this happens and I'm rooting for Gasquet's opponent. It's a good feeling. Usually I'm crying with you at him pulling a Gasquet.

Mimi
06-05-2012, 02:35 AM
oh, i am very surprised, only saw the first set and gasquet was playing very well, can't believe murray made such a comeback

fast_clay
06-05-2012, 02:50 AM
They don't only occur when he's losing. He had them against Niemenen and hasn't had them since. Courier got it spot on. Murray always touches body parts during matches. Why do people act surprised when he does it? You know he's injured when he calls the trainer. When he clutches a body part? That's just a reflex. He never, ever claims he's injured when he does that.

How often do you see him actually call for the trainer, though? Only Federer calls for the trainer less often than Andy.

f**k yeah... you can't twist these facts you c***s so shove it where the sun don't shine...


Might this be why Lendl's sticking with him. Is he actually starting to develop some tennis balls? Or will he falter in the SF against RN once again? I'd really like to see that. I hope Muzz gets some aggression lessons from Lendl - no way can he beat Nadal by admiring him so much.

:confused: murray is playing almagro in semis

Gagsquet
06-05-2012, 03:04 AM
Clydey's explanation is such a joke. Murray was sending clear signals that his back was painful (and only when he was losing points :rolleyes:)
Your stupid theory about him touching his body (with a painful look :rolleyes: ) as a reflex is pure shit. I poop on your shitty theory. Murray deserves the victory but this faking attitude is shameful.

fast_clay
06-05-2012, 04:30 AM
Found my screencap at the time:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=10939068&postcount=109

study this picture and tell me murray is not in communication with the dark side of the force... if i am not mistaken that is sheer f**king delight on the face of the sick scot bastard... looks very much like a mad scientist creating a hundred snakes with wings and throwing them out the window as a gift to everyone... disturbing and also wonderful at the same time...

finishingmove
06-05-2012, 06:02 AM
what is this new sorcery ?

Shinoj
06-05-2012, 07:06 AM
Murray gave a good Reason to why i like Tennis. Those Drop shots, those Powerful Winners off both Flanks. Tactically Outsmarting the opponent by pure Brain.

There is a reason why Nadull,s Physical game looks dull,boring and the reason is Players like Murray still exist, who create a point from their own power and creativeness and not from Opponents Mistakes. And i have to say that even Djokovic's game looks Mechanical,Dull and Physical if you compare the Way Murray Plays.

Only Federer could match Murray when he is in Full Flight.

Pure tennis Skill Wise

Tier 1 Roger Federer, Andy Murray
Tier 2 Rafael Nadal,Novak Djokovic

tektonac
06-05-2012, 07:21 AM
Murray gave a good Reason to why i like Tennis. Those Drop shots, those Powerful Winners off both Flanks. Tactically Outsmarting the opponent by pure Brain.

There is a reason why Nadull,s Physical game looks dull,boring and the reason is Players like Murray still exist, who create a point from their own power and creativeness and not from Opponents Mistakes. And i have to say that even Djokovic's game looks Mechanical,Dull and Physical if you compare the Way Murray Plays.

Only Federer could match Murray when he is in Full Flight.

Pure tennis Skill Wise

Tier 1 Roger Federer, Andy Murray
Tier 2 Rafael Nadal,Novak Djokovic

nonsense. murray's game is very physical + it doesn't yield results.

MuzzahLovah
06-05-2012, 07:28 AM
Murray gave a good Reason to why i like Tennis. Those Drop shots, those Powerful Winners off both Flanks. Tactically Outsmarting the opponent by pure Brain.

There is a reason why Nadull,s Physical game looks dull,boring and the reason is Players like Murray still exist, who create a point from their own power and creativeness and not from Opponents Mistakes. And i have to say that even Djokovic's game looks Mechanical,Dull and Physical if you compare the Way Murray Plays.

Only Federer could match Murray when he is in Full Flight.

Pure tennis Skill Wise

Tier 1 Roger Federer, Andy Murray
Tier 2 Rafael Nadal,Novak Djokovic


Well I wouldn't exactly equate Djokovic and Nadal. Djokovic is aggressive an uses dropshot a fair amount. Nadal is just ugh. But yep, Fed and Murray can really put on a show when the juices are flowing and today was a joy to watch from Muzzah.

delpiero7
06-05-2012, 07:28 AM
LMAO @ Murray holding his lower back and wincing with "pain" at points in the second set.

Was NID that Gasquet would collapse at some point in the match.

Absolute Anthropoid
06-05-2012, 07:31 AM
What a shame. I thought Gasquet would shine here.

Shinoj
06-05-2012, 07:32 AM
Well I wouldn't exactly equate Djokovic and Nadal. Djokovic is aggressive an uses dropshot a fair amount. Nadal is just ugh. But yep, Fed and Murray can really put on a show when the juices are flowing and today was a joy to watch from Muzzah.


Thats right Nadal is actually a Tier Down to Djokovic

This would be my Final

Tier 1 Roger Federer Andy Murray
Tier 2 Novak Djokovic ( Djokovic has a real good game but for some reason he goes on defensive. Its more so recently. It was not in 2011
Tier 3 Nadal (Nadal doesnt have a peak game. He has a stable consistent retrieving,moonballing game that preys on Opponents mistake. If you have a look at Nadals Game in 2005 and in 2012 there is absolutely no difference. He doesnt have a Peak Game.

Allez
06-05-2012, 09:18 AM
Gasquet in 3 in less than 1H30. 6-0 6-1 6-0

That might be the easiest match of the tournament so far for Richie.

The biggest Gasquet jinxer on MTF strikes again :lol: I see those Simon Reed lessons are going really well :facepalm:

duong
06-05-2012, 09:45 AM
I think Murray loved it out there. He came out, was announced, and the crowd booed him like he had a nerve even showing up against Gasquet - and he grinned, just a little. He loves that - it gives him a bit of a boxing vibe and he feeds off it - he doesn't mind playing the heel on court.

I agree with what you say about the boxing vibe but the reason why Murray was booed by some of the public before the match was because of the match against Nieminen ... I strongly disapprove that of course :shrug:

But anyway that doesn't explain why Murray played so well in 3rd and 4th sets while he played bad in first set especially.

He just want into a "zone", which was great watching :worship:

duong
06-05-2012, 09:47 AM
First set was wonderful from Gasquet. Classic tennis, he just outplayed Murray in all the departments.
Murray was playing average. Not enough to challenge Goatsquet.

I've heard things like that in the French media, but actually Murray played much better in 3rd and 4th sets than Gasquet did in first set, it can't be put at the same level as some did.

Gasquet played better against Murray in 2010, but the conditions were not good for him yesterday contrary to their match in 2010 : it was heavy, more for powerful players like Murray and even more Nadal than for him.

scoobs
06-05-2012, 09:52 AM
I agree with what you say about the boxing vibe but the reason why Murray was booed by some of the public before the match was because of the match against Nieminen ... I strongly disapprove that of course :shrug:

But anyway that doesn't explain why Murray played so well in 3rd and 4th sets while he played bad in first set especially.

He just want into a "zone", which was great watching :worship:

But they didn't boo him against Giraldo.

So why would they boo him for what happened with Nieminen 2 matches later?

scoobs
06-05-2012, 09:54 AM
First set was wonderful from Gasquet. Classic tennis, he just outplayed Murray in all the departments.
Murray was playing average. Not enough to challenge Goatsquet.
Then Murray played better and started winning his service games.
At 4-4 in the 2nd, Gasquet did a Gasquet and was not able to take advantage of three break points. Then obviously Murray made the break next game. Turning point of the match.
In the next sets, Murray was awesome, just awesome and Gasquet was pretty average. Same situation reversed than first set. At this point, the outcome was predictable and no miracle saved the Frenchie.
Kudos to Murray for his insane level of play from the third set. Gasquet's inability to broke at 4-4 helps too.

Oh I forgot :devil: FUCK YOU IDIOT SCOT FOR TOUCHING YOUR BACK ONLY WHEN YOU WERE LOSING POINTS. CHEATER.

Right.

So please tell me which rule in the ATP / ITF code he broke.

duong
06-05-2012, 09:59 AM
But they didn't boo him against Giraldo.

So why would they boo him for what happened with Nieminen 2 matches later?

I think before the match against Giraldo, people still expected him to have problems with his back ... like people on MTF :shrug:

After the match against Giraldo he looked fine :shrug:

(of course it's very possible physically but you know, people are suspicious : from what I've heard the British press has been harsh with him about that)

Besides, it was not the same people in the public, and it's possible that the fact he playeds Gasquet played a role as well. But I don't remember players being booed before a match against a French player in the past, during the match it's different.

Jade Fox
06-05-2012, 10:00 AM
But they didn't boo him against Giraldo.

So why would they boo him for what happened with Nieminen 2 matches later?

Maybe they found out about his great record against Frenchmen? :shrug:

I mean, it can't be about Nieminen so it could be that they know how much of a threat Andy is against Frenchmen.

duong
06-05-2012, 10:06 AM
Maybe they found out about his great record against Frenchmen? :shrug:

I mean, it can't be about Nieminen so it could be that they know how much of a threat Andy is against Frenchmen.

the French public is bad but passionate, not opportunistic as some would think in other countries

scoobs
06-05-2012, 10:28 AM
I think before the match against Giraldo, people still expected him to have problems with his back ... like people on MTF :shrug:

After the match against Giraldo he looked fine :shrug:

(of course it's very possible physically but you know, people are suspicious : from what I've heard the British press has been harsh with him about that)

Besides, it was not the same people in the public, and it's possible that the fact he playeds Gasquet played a role as well. But I don't remember players being booed before a match against a French player in the past, during the match it's different.

People are remarkably suspicious - and also, apparently, infallible. They never have aches that come and go. Lucky them, I say. I get twinges here and there from time to time. Sometimes they're there, sometimes they're not.

Sometimes my back is a little stiff and I even find myself touching it - in public. I dare say some people think I'm faking it and I'm cheating at walking, and life, and stuff, but then, people will tell themselves and believe the most stupid things.

canbera
06-05-2012, 11:00 AM
Gasquet would've been demolished by Ferrer anyways, so at least we get an interesting Quarterfinal to watch.

But the way Gasquet lost was quite sad - double faulted at 4:5 in the 2nd set to lose the set, double faulted again in his first service game in the third, and he never recovered from that.

Murray just too solid, and those drop-shots, often followed by a lob hurt Gasquet so much.

Pretty much everything he did right against Tommy Haas in sets 3 & 4, yesterday nothing worked in his favor anymore.

decrepitude
06-05-2012, 11:21 AM
I just turned off TV after 1-set, Murray was horrible (pushing, waiting errors). How he managed to win I have no idea. :superlol:
That's *because* you didn't watch after the first set. He is often a slow starter.

Hian-GOAT
06-05-2012, 11:44 AM
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg633/FORZAPENNETTA/tumblr_lzq2diTAon1r066zfo1_500.gif

Allez
06-05-2012, 11:46 AM
The word is out. Murray's in for some serious booing at Wimbledon. Murray Mound/ Mount Murray goes back into being Henman Hill. I've got a few eggs stashed away just in case he gets a little complacent out there :yeah: Let's do this!

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 11:54 AM
The word is out. Murray's in for some serious booing at Wimbledon. Murray Mound/ Mount Murray goes back into being Henman Hill. I've got a few eggs stashed away just in case he gets a little complacent out there :yeah: Let's do this!

all he has to do is say "anyone but England for the Euro's" on twitter and its on! :devil:

Gagsquet
06-05-2012, 12:53 PM
Right.

So please tell me which rule in the ATP / ITF code he broke.

None.
But he broke the code of honor. He is a sly person. Your fanboyism prevents you from seeing the truth. That was not correct from Murray.

decrepitude
06-05-2012, 01:00 PM
None.
But he broke the code of honor. He is a sly person. Your fanboyism prevents you from seeing the truth. That was not correct from Murray.

He broke the code of honour, because he touched his back - which has been giving him some niggly problems for months? Weird code of honour.

Looner
06-05-2012, 01:06 PM
None.
But he broke the code of honor. He is a sly person. Your fanboyism prevents you from seeing the truth. That was not correct from Murray.

Not really sly but he was definitely being obnoxious. The same people who defend him also point out he was smiling. Obviously, he was not trying to provoke neither his opponent or the crowd. NOT. So if you want to praise him for his badassery in fighting a passionate crowd which dislikes dishonesty on court, then you should acknowledge he was playing mind games and that is not to everyone's taste. Certainly not to mine so I hope he loses in the next round.

TigerTim
06-05-2012, 01:07 PM
He broke the code of honour, because he touched his back - which has been giving him some niggly problems for months? Weird code of honour.

No no, he did not follow the French example, which is when at risk of losing do not make a comeback but surrender and collapse in a heap often leaving your allies in the lurch :shrug:

Gagsquet
06-05-2012, 01:22 PM
How can someone defend this faking is beyond me. He would have lost, he would have accused the back in his presser.
In the middle of the second set, French media were wondering if Murray was going to give up. Such a faker, disgusting. Unrelated to the loss of course, Murray deserves all the credit for the win with such a fantastic level of play from the third.

philosophicalarf
06-05-2012, 02:52 PM
Clearly he was faking when he withdrew from Madrid. With a back injury.

Or when he's been saying all season it's been a problem since end of last year.

decrepitude
06-05-2012, 02:58 PM
In the middle of the second set, French media were wondering if Murray was going to give up.

You mean they were hoping he would, as it was the only way Gasquet would win?

Now in the Nieminen match, yes, everybody was expecting him to give up, because at that time we knew he had withdrawn from Madrid with a back injury and he did look in real trouble: the explanation that it was not the same problem, but a back spasm, cleared that point up.

Sapeod
06-05-2012, 04:44 PM
How can someone defend this faking is beyond me. He would have lost, he would have accused the back in his presser.
In the middle of the second set, French media were wondering if Murray was going to give up. Such a faker, disgusting. Unrelated to the loss of course, Murray deserves all the credit for the win with such a fantastic level of play from the third.
Keep crying, Gagsquet. It's not going to bring Gasquet back into the draw. Murray's back was fine, there was nothing wrong with it today. The first set was just bad by his standards. After the second set he destroyed Gasquet because he was on fire and he was superior. Suck it up and get used to it. Murray has beaten Gasquet 4 times now in slams. He's just the far superior player. Get over it.

Murraylicious
06-05-2012, 04:59 PM
Can't find Highlights