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What are your expectations from Andy Roddick at Wimbledon?

Federer in 2
06-02-2012, 11:17 PM
He is reaching a new low every week now, losing to challenger level players on clay and showing generally poor Tennis. It's obvious that his retirement is very close, but now that the tournaments on his best surface are coming, can Andy achieve a decent result in Wimby 2012?

I must say I can definitely see him losing at Round 2, sadly :sad:

Say Hey Kid
06-02-2012, 11:19 PM
Roddick needs to focus on his decaying marriage before focusing on Tennis. He'll probably lose R1 unless he draws someone like Volandri

Mark Lenders
06-02-2012, 11:24 PM
He'll replicate Ivanisevic 2001 :D

Realistically tho, he should lose to the first top 10 player he faces :sad:

Johnny Groove
06-02-2012, 11:27 PM
Roddick needs to focus on his decaying marriage before focusing on Tennis. He'll probably lose R1 unless he draws someone like Volandri

Are you hearing things?

If Roddick gets rid of Decker, maybe his game will improve ala Agassi getting rid of Brooke Shields.

I want to see him at Queens, and Eastbourne if he plays. Realistically, with a nice draw, he can maybe make the 2nd week.

156mphserve
06-02-2012, 11:30 PM
probably round 3 or something

Corey Feldman
06-02-2012, 11:31 PM
i think he'll get to the 1st round

Jamoz
06-02-2012, 11:32 PM
What do i expect? Pain.

SVK
06-02-2012, 11:32 PM
He will probably lose to Ramirez Hidalgo in R1.

tommyg6
06-02-2012, 11:32 PM
I love reading these Andy Roddick threads, the amount of ridicule and hate he gets is hilarious.

ossie
06-02-2012, 11:39 PM
he will lose before he even gets to a top 10 player.

KarlyM
06-03-2012, 12:44 AM
Show up, win 1 match, not get bageled in R2.

Topspindoctor
06-03-2012, 12:46 AM
None, he's washed up. Time to retire and spend his time banging his trophy wife.

Slade
06-03-2012, 12:46 AM
Unfortunately I see him going out in R2 or R3.

Certinfy
06-03-2012, 12:46 AM
Lets be honest, anything other than taking the title would be a disappointment in his own mind.

Given a good draw I'm just going to go ahead and say QF.

Filo V.
06-03-2012, 12:48 AM
Somewhere in the R3-QF range.

misty1
06-03-2012, 12:51 AM
everyone bases their answer off of what he did on clay. Completely ignoring the fact that its his worst surface and he cam in having played hardly any time at all

with the right draw a 4th round i think is possible and maybe a QF

uxyzapenje
06-03-2012, 12:52 AM
It would be funny if he could beat Fed (like in Miami) in R3 and then lose to Lu

BauerAlmeida
06-03-2012, 01:37 AM
Qf

Looner
06-03-2012, 01:39 AM
Firstly, depends largely on the draw. He could easily be put in the top 3's R3 which means he's OUT. Then again he might get an easy one. I still expect to hear commentators talking how he'll surely win SW19 one day :rolleyes:.

Mark Lenders
06-03-2012, 02:17 AM
Firstly, depends largely on the draw. He could easily be put in the top 3's R3 which means he's OUT. Then again he might get an easy one. I still expect to hear commentators talking how he'll surely win SW19 one day :rolleyes:.

If he can somehow roll back the years with his serve, he could potentially upset Nadal or Djokovic in week 1 imo. The grass is way faster in week 1 than in the final weekend, if he could serve at his best he could do some major damage. Big if though.

And he won't win SW19 one day bar a miracle, but he kind of deserved one, even more so that his USO title imo. 2009 was probably his last chance though.

Topspindoctor
06-03-2012, 02:18 AM
If he can somehow roll back the years with his serve, he could potentially upset Nadal or Djokovic in week 1 imo. The grass is way faster in week 1 than in the final weekend, if he could serve at his best he could do some major damage. Big if though.

And he won't win SW19 one day bar a miracle, but he kind of deserved one, even more so that his USO title imo. 2009 was probably his last chance though.

:rolleyes:

Your delusions know no end.

Mark Lenders
06-03-2012, 02:21 AM
:rolleyes:

Your delusions know no end.

I'm pretty sure that, if serving his best, he's better and essentially mentally stronger than some players who have stretched Nadal and Djokovic to the limits (5 sets) in the first week of Wimbledon in recent years and only failed to close it out due to their mental weakness (Haase, Petzchner, etc...).

Topspindoctor
06-03-2012, 02:25 AM
Mentally stronger? Just like he was mentally strong in 2009 final?

Nadal (and Djokovic) raise their game when it matters. There is no way Roddick could beat either of them, especially Nadal on grass.

Nadal thrashed Roddick in 2011 USO, effortlessly. Stop living in the past, Roddick is a joke, serve or not. If you feel so confident, bet some money on him, should he meet Nadal in early rounds instead of constructing wild "what if" scenarios on message boards. I have a feeling you won't be doing that because you know Roddick is BYE for any top player on any surface these days.

Mark Lenders
06-03-2012, 02:39 AM
Mentally stronger? Just like he was mentally strong in 2009 final?

Nadal (and Djokovic) raise their game when it matters. There is no way Roddick could beat either of them, especially Nadal on grass.

Nadal thrashed Roddick in 2011 USO, effortlessly. Stop living in the past, Roddick is a joke, serve or not. If you feel so confident, bet some money on him, should he meet Nadal in early rounds instead of constructing wild "what if" scenarios on message boards. I have a feeling you won't be doing that because you know Roddick is BYE for any top player on any surface these days.

Yes. If he wasn't mentally strong, he'd have crumbled after losing two tiebreaks in such close fashion and not taken Federer to the very limit. Not to mention he'd not have even made the final competitive after all the beatdowns he got over the years.

And yes, I will not be putting any money on Roddick because he's not the favorite or particularly likely to beat any top player. But it can happen; he's in decline but his talent hasn't left, he can play a great match at any time. No one could see washed-up Safin oust in-form Djokovic gunning for #1 back in Wimbledon 2008, yet he did it. And Roddick has always been better on grass and he's not as washed up as Safin back then (wasn't even seeded).

Not to mention no one expected guys like Haase, Petzchner, Kendrick, Rochus... to cause those two any trouble, yet they did. Wimbledon is really fast in week 1, conditions in which Nadal and Djokovic are more vulnerable than usual.

I'm pretty sure Roddick is not a guy any of the top 8 players want to see in their quarter of the draw at Wimbledon.

Mountaindewslave
06-03-2012, 02:51 AM
i would say QF because it's Roddick and grass and this is assuming he gets back into shape and isn't tired after 1 set like he has been of late...

however I would love if his form came together and he won the tournament, so much heartache for Roddick at WImbledon

mooncreek
06-03-2012, 03:18 AM
It's going to depend a lot on Queens. If he loses first round, I'm not even sure he'll be in the Top 32 (you have to be that high for grass results to factor in the seeding) and the confidence would be shot to hell. Last year he got to the semis and all was good - then Murray trounced him and he was a lost cause at Wimbledon.

If he's a seed, he'll lose R3. Won't even get that far if he's unseeded.

Busterovic
06-03-2012, 03:21 AM
I didn't see Roddick's last 3 matches vs. Birdman Soeda or Mahut, but I'm guessing he's really out of shape (?). That, along with either a bum shoulder or a lacking fitness routine are combining for the reasons for the struggles of ARod.

As far as Wimby goes, theres a few guys that play well there and some guys that don't. It seems like Hewitt, Roddick, Gasquet, Nalbandian and even Fish when he was pretty terrible. Then theres other guys that just suck on the surface no matter how good they are. Davydenko, Ferrer, Monfils are Isner. Its a unique surface and Andy knows how to play there.

Its tough to say what the realistic expectations are since, at least I, don't know what his health status is but lets just say you can bet that Nole and Rafa don't wanna see him in the 3rd round during the first week when the ball flies. He does, at the end of the day, still own a winning record against Djokovic.

Mountaindewslave
06-03-2012, 04:25 AM
I didn't see Roddick's last 3 matches vs. Birdman Soeda or Mahut, but I'm guessing he's really out of shape (?). That, along with either a bum shoulder or a lacking fitness routine are combining for the reasons for the struggles of ARod.

As far as Wimby goes, theres a few guys that play well there and some guys that don't. It seems like Hewitt, Roddick, Gasquet, Nalbandian and even Fish when he was pretty terrible. Then theres other guys that just suck on the surface no matter how good they are. Davydenko, Ferrer, Monfils are Isner. Its a unique surface and Andy knows how to play there.

Its tough to say what the realistic expectations are since, at least I, don't know what his health status is but lets just say you can bet that Nole and Rafa don't wanna see him in the 3rd round during the first week when the ball flies. He does, at the end of the day, still own a winning record against Djokovic.

yeah his stamina has been horrible lately that's really his big problem

BroTree123
06-03-2012, 04:33 AM
Sadly for him this is 2012. First round exit IMO.

dodo
06-03-2012, 05:36 AM
It would be funny if he could beat Fed (like in Miami) in R3 and then lose to Lu

It would be (kind of?) funny if he drew Fed, but not in the way you're thinking.

Dougie
06-03-2012, 06:50 AM
Itīs weird how people still think that a different surface will suddenly turn it all around for Roddick. His serve is far from what is used to be, it lacks pace and all the top guys can read it easily. His groundstrokes are powder puffs, so what exactly will be his weapons on grass? He is overweight, obviously doesnīt have much motivation ( if he did, youīd think he would have played a bit more on clay instead of coming to Europe completely unprepared).

And then thereīs the grass. Weīre not talking about the same grass that Ivanisevic made his famous run on. This is slow grass. You have to play baseline rallies, and Roddick gets his ass kicked in those. You need a HUGE serve if youīre going to compensate all the other areas with it. Thatīs something he doesnīt have. Even Karlovic hasnīt made a significant run at WImbledon with his serve, that should tell something about the surface.

With a lucky draw he could make the 2nd round, maybe even 3rd ( if he draws the likes of VOlandri or something). But thatīs abut it, I canīt see winning more than two matches, and even thatīs pushing it.

henke007
06-03-2012, 06:51 AM
R2 or 3 tops

TigerTim
06-03-2012, 07:11 AM
Duck has to be the most hated man on MTF. I guess all non Fed fans are butthurt like duck by the way he bent over to Rodger since 1842. Fair enough I say, duck needs luck; R3 IMO.

Chirag
06-03-2012, 07:15 AM
Replicate wimbledon 2001 where the stars lineup for him and he wins :rocker2:

tripwires
06-03-2012, 07:21 AM
It'd be nice if he didn't lose in the first round.

Li Ching Yuen
06-03-2012, 07:30 AM
It'd be nice if he didn't lose in the first round.

:lol:

heya
06-03-2012, 07:34 AM
no, most don't like the narcissistic queens federer & duck.

it's not about fed; it's duck demanding free money for his weaponless presense.
it got bad in 2005 when rodduck refused mental help
for his pathetic behavior (sycophant obsession with going to the media to beg for money, constant yelling at lines judges, giving up serious technique on court, avoiding slow courts. getting fat, sick and then choking matches)

Busterovic
06-03-2012, 09:01 AM
Sadly for him this is 2012. First round exit IMO.

Comeon, do you really believe that? If he draws a similar player to what he drew at RG (which ironically is Mahut who is a good grass court player), you have to expect him to pull the W.

Do you really believe Roddick is going to lose in the first round to a guy like Starace, Matosevic, Jaziri or Sela at Wimbledon? Its one thing to lose in the first round of Wimbledon but this guy has made the final 3 times, the semis 4 times, and the quarters 5 times.

Like others noted Queens Club is the true test for him. We'll see where he's at at that point.

Also as someone noted I think he SHOULD play the Aegeon tournament. Its nice to have the week before a GS off and at this stage of his career Roddick is probably only playing for deep GS runs let alone winning an ATP250 but if he gets bounced early at Queens he should definitely play in Eastbourne the following week.

Dougie
06-03-2012, 09:07 AM
Comeon, do you really believe that? If he draws a similar player to what he drew at RG (which ironically is Mahut who is a good grass court player), you have to expect him to pull the W.

Do you really believe Roddick is going to lose in the first round to a guy like Starace, Matosevic, Jaziri or Sela at Wimbledon? Its one thing to lose in the first round of Wimbledon but this guy has made the final 3 times, the semis 4 times, and the quarters 5 times.

Like others noted Queens Club is the true test for him. We'll see where he's at at that point.

Also as someone noted I think he SHOULD play the Aegeon tournament. Its nice to have the week before a GS off and at this stage of his career Roddick is probably only playing for deep GS runs let alone winning an ATP250 but if he gets bounced early at Queens he should definitely play in Eastbourne the following week.

If thatīs the case, he might as well retire.

Johnny Groove
06-03-2012, 10:50 AM
Will he even be seeded?

Ace-Rod
06-03-2012, 10:53 AM
Maybe QF in the best-case scenario :)

zeleni
06-03-2012, 11:01 AM
don't think roddick can beak through to second week, but it will hilarious if he draws and somehow beats federer like in miami.:D

Blue Heart24
06-03-2012, 11:53 AM
Some people just don't realise that Roddick is completely done.He keeps showing it tournament after tournament and some still don't see it.QF at Wimbledon? :spit: Seriously? :spit: What shit are you smoking? Even his serve is very far from what it's been.Depending on the draw,he can win a match maybe,considering he's seeded,and 2 if he is incredibly lucky with the draw.First semi decent ATP player who he faces,he'll go out.

Chase Visa
06-03-2012, 12:22 PM
He did beat Fed at Miami.

But yeah, Roddick is probably done :sad:

Might not even be Top 50 by the end of the year.

timafi
06-03-2012, 01:12 PM
hopefully he goes out in the FIRST week to the worst player he finds who is NOT a grass court player :angel:

Busterovic
06-03-2012, 01:22 PM
If thatīs the case, he might as well retire.

Couldn't agree more. He SHOULD retire.

It won't be this year, but I do think Roddick will retire pretty quickly.

He won't be like those guys that are finished that hold on forever.

Speaking of which how pathetic is it that James Blake and Tommy Haas haven't retired yet?

Good for Haas qualifying and making the round of 32 but these guys must be REALLY, REALLY broke to still be playing.

They've both had injury problems and they're both really old for tennis standards.

Just pathetic that they're taking wild cards from much more deserving players and playing challengers which are definitely not for them.

Dougie
06-03-2012, 01:40 PM
Couldn't agree more. He SHOULD retire.

It won't be this year, but I do think Roddick will retire pretty quickly.

He won't be like those guys that are finished that hold on forever.

Speaking of which how pathetic is it that James Blake and Tommy Haas haven't retired yet?

Good for Haas qualifying and making the round of 32 but these guys must be REALLY, REALLY broke to still be playing.

They've both had injury problems and they're both really old for tennis standards.

Just pathetic that they're taking wild cards from much more deserving players and playing challengers which are definitely not for them.

Actually, I didnīt mean that he should retire, Iīm sure he knows himself when itīs time to call it a day. What I meant was that if he really is playing for deep runs in slams, then he might as well retire, because it seems like that train has already passed. Itīs safe to say he isnīt a threat in slams anymore. If he wants to keep playing, thatīs fine, but he should be realistic about his chances. And he should work a lot harder than he does.

Take Haas, for example; Iīm sure he doesnīt dream of winning slams anymore, but he still enjoys the game and the competition, and he wants to play so his daughter can see him play. Nothing wrong with that. And heīs worked really hard to get back to the tour ( much harder than ROddick has recently, Im sure). Not every player past 30 is pathetic. But if you keep hanging around, not putting in the effort, letting your gut grow, and just wait for the grass season and expect to make a sudden deep run, then it might be time to consider your options.

Snowwy
06-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Couldn't agree more. He SHOULD retire.

It won't be this year, but I do think Roddick will retire pretty quickly.

He won't be like those guys that are finished that hold on forever.

Speaking of which how pathetic is it that James Blake and Tommy Haas haven't retired yet?

Good for Haas qualifying and making the round of 32 but these guys must be REALLY, REALLY broke to still be playing.

They've both had injury problems and they're both really old for tennis standards.

Just pathetic that they're taking wild cards from much more deserving players and playing challengers which are definitely not for them.

I'm not sure you understand what a wildcard is for. Why should they retire if they still enjoy playing?

Burrow
06-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Couldn't agree more. He SHOULD retire.

It won't be this year, but I do think Roddick will retire pretty quickly.

He won't be like those guys that are finished that hold on forever.

Speaking of which how pathetic is it that James Blake and Tommy Haas haven't retired yet?

Good for Haas qualifying and making the round of 32 but these guys must be REALLY, REALLY broke to still be playing.

They've both had injury problems and they're both really old for tennis standards.

Just pathetic that they're taking wild cards from much more deserving players and playing challengers which are definitely not for them.

How pathetic is it that you could even contemplating saying something so ridiculous?

You obviously have no passion for any particular thing. As you've said, these men have had many injury problems. James Blake had scoliosis and you can still see the result of this today and had to wear a full body brace for most of the day as a boy. And 7 or 8 years ago, he broke his neck. Haas has had countless surgeries on his shoulder amongst other things. I'm pretty sure these men are very driven and both are in the top 100, so why should they retire if they're enjoying what they're doing?

Plus, they haven't "kept" taking wildcards, both men have played challengers and gone through qualifying. I don't see why giving a younger player a wildcard is any more beneficial to the tournament. They haven't proven themselves if they don't get entry. At least these men have been top 5 in the world and will draw in the crowds. These guys had to build their way up through challengers and qualifying in the 90's, so why should this generation be any different? Should they be like Donald Young and milk wildcards like he did for a while and lose constantly in the first round? I don't think that's the right way to do things, at all.

If you think money is the only incentive to play post 30 years old, then you're a bit oblivious.

Johnny Groove
06-03-2012, 02:00 PM
Burrow is back to MTF? :eek:

Haven't seen you posting since Safin retired, mate. Welcome back :wavey:

Busterovic
06-03-2012, 02:14 PM
Actually, I didnīt mean that he should retire, Iīm sure he knows himself when itīs time to call it a day. What I meant was that if he really is playing for deep runs in slams, then he might as well retire, because it seems like that train has already passed. Itīs safe to say he isnīt a threat in slams anymore. If he wants to keep playing, thatīs fine, but he should be realistic about his chances. And he should work a lot harder than he does.

Take Haas, for example; Iīm sure he doesnīt dream of winning slams anymore, but he still enjoys the game and the competition, and he wants to play so his daughter can see him play. Nothing wrong with that. And heīs worked really hard to get back to the tour ( much harder than ROddick has recently, Im sure). Not every player past 30 is pathetic. But if you keep hanging around, not putting in the effort, letting your gut grow, and just wait for the grass season and expect to make a sudden deep run, then it might be time to consider your options.

If you ask Roddick why he's still playing, he'll tell you its only to make deep runs in Grand Slams. Trust me, Andy Roddick isn't playing this game to win anymore 250 titles. Not to say that when he signs up for one of those things he doesn't want to win, but thats not his objective.

He also really isn't playing to make the quarters of an AMS1000 event.

Again, I'm sure its up their on his priority list but the ENTIRE reason Roddick is playing is so that he can possibly replicate what he did that 2 week period in 2009 when he almost shocked the world.

Or maybe he can do what he did last fall in Flushing Meadows where he gets a favorable draw with players in his draw upsetting guys he has difficulty with (Benneteau last USO) and drawing a higher seed he matches up well with (Ferrer last USO).

Roddick lost 2,1,3 to Nadal last year. He kept grabbing his quad and called the trainer out. I'm sure he thinks that if is wasn't for the bum quad he would've beaten Nadal before and gotten to the SF. Thats how these guys think..

But again, Roddick isn't playing so that he can win Delray Beach. His only major goal is to get a good draw and get deep at a GS. Thats it.

Priam
06-03-2012, 02:19 PM
Not much.

Horatio Caine
06-03-2012, 02:59 PM
R3 is a realistic expectation for Roddick at the moment. He should still be favoured against the majority of unseeded players but, at the moment, it is hard to see him beating anyone ranked much higher than him.

R4 is his limit imo, unless the draw opens out for him. Yes, he has done well at Wimbledon in the past. But these days his serve alone won't get him through matches against the top drawer. Once a rally develops, he looks weaker than ever.

bavaria100
06-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Comeon, do you really believe that? If he draws a similar player to what he drew at RG (which ironically is Mahut who is a good grass court player), you have to expect him to pull the W.

Do you really believe Roddick is going to lose in the first round to a guy like Starace, Matosevic, Jaziri or Sela at Wimbledon? Its one thing to lose in the first round of Wimbledon but this guy has made the final 3 times, the semis 4 times, and the quarters 5 times.

Like others noted Queens Club is the true test for him. We'll see where he's at at that point.

Also as someone noted I think he SHOULD play the Aegeon tournament. Its nice to have the week before a GS off and at this stage of his career Roddick is probably only playing for deep GS runs let alone winning an ATP250 but if he gets bounced early at Queens he should definitely play in Eastbourne the following week.

Actually, Roddick has lost to Sela on grass before and he was in much better shape then than he is now.

Some people just don't realise that Roddick is completely done.He keeps showing it tournament after tournament and some still don't see it.QF at Wimbledon? :spit: Seriously? :spit: What shit are you smoking? Even his serve is very far from what it's been.Depending on the draw,he can win a match maybe,considering he's seeded,and 2 if he is incredibly lucky with the draw.First semi decent ATP player who he faces,he'll go out.

Word. :lol: I can only assume that all those people haven't seen Roddick play lately. As if Roddick is magically going to lose 10-15 pounds in the next 2 weeks when he couldn't be bothered to do it for the past 6 months. The man is in absolutely no shape to be on a tennis court at the moment.

motorhead
06-03-2012, 03:28 PM
What do i expect? Pain.

:haha:

tennisfan856
06-03-2012, 05:02 PM
I expect Larry Stefanki to keep laughing to the bank as he further destroys this man's career while collecting the paycheck.

reery
06-03-2012, 05:15 PM
Early loss.

asmazif
06-03-2012, 05:24 PM
Powers through to the final where he loses to Ferrero in 3 humiliating sets.

heya
06-03-2012, 10:33 PM
But again, Roddick isn't playing so that he can win Delray Beach. His only major goal is to get a good draw and get deep at a GS. Thats it.
so he shows up to overstay his welcome, then repeatedly loses with unconverted match point in sj & delray beach & 4 set points at wimbledon?

or, maybe he wants free tennis money for stealing spots in the draws, have children with the rich trophy ditz girl then use the children to make more millions.

Freak3yman84
06-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Yes, Roddick is way past his prime, but grass is arguably his best surface and he does do well at Wimbledon. Yet, in his current form I see him getting to the 3rd round and possibly the 4th round if he gets a good draw and plays well.

heya
06-03-2012, 11:55 PM
wrong, he'll face tsonga, berdych or fed in the 2nd round; it'll be fun when he binges on coffee/steak/cheeseburgers and gets sick after the loss.

Federer in 2
06-13-2012, 03:20 PM
How about now...?

dencod16
06-13-2012, 03:38 PM
Couldn't agree more. He SHOULD retire.

It won't be this year, but I do think Roddick will retire pretty quickly.

He won't be like those guys that are finished that hold on forever.

Speaking of which how pathetic is it that James Blake and Tommy Haas haven't retired yet?

Good for Haas qualifying and making the round of 32 but these guys must be REALLY, REALLY broke to still be playing.

They've both had injury problems and they're both really old for tennis standards.

Just pathetic that they're taking wild cards from much more deserving players and playing challengers which are definitely not for them.

I think if Roddick will be needing Wild Cards he should retire, You cannot compare him to Haas and Blake because he is in a different league, he has been top 10 for a long time unlike Haas and Blake who jumps in and out. His career is better than anyone on tour right now maybe except the top 4.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-13-2012, 03:41 PM
needs to retire

enjoy watching his matches + stare at the tatas on the trophy trashy bimbo of his

ossie
06-13-2012, 03:43 PM
i hope he plays federer again :haha:

Sapeod
06-13-2012, 03:44 PM
I don't expect anything from Roddick. Ever.

Wing Man Frank
06-13-2012, 03:46 PM
On today's horror showing if he makes it past the first round he deserves a lot of credit.

Federer in 2
06-30-2012, 12:39 PM
R3 it is. Ferrer will prevail.