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Roland Garros R3 : Murray routines Giraldo 6-3 6-4 6-4

MuzzahLovah
06-02-2012, 02:38 PM
no drama

Voo de Mar
06-02-2012, 02:39 PM
Useless match-up, Giraldo is too primitive tennis player to make a match with Murray a competitive one.

Ashlar77
06-02-2012, 02:40 PM
Much better today Andy, much better indeed. :banana:

BroTree123
06-02-2012, 02:40 PM
A bye to the SF pretty much.

Nr 1 Fan
06-02-2012, 02:43 PM
Will beat Haas as well, or else a revenge versus Gasquet.

Moozza
06-02-2012, 02:43 PM
A bye to the SF pretty much.

Ferrer?

LastRocket
06-02-2012, 02:44 PM
Easy for Drama queen

Moozza
06-02-2012, 02:44 PM
Very good from Andy, 31 W- 20 U/E is a nice ratio.

green25814
06-02-2012, 02:45 PM
A bye to the SF pretty much.

Ferrer will beat him

Voo de Mar
06-02-2012, 02:46 PM
A bye to the SF pretty much.

You're saying about Murray's last year's road in Paris. He may be ousted by Gasquet in the 4th round (not by Haas though), and he isn't a favorite in probable meeting with Pics.

Sapeod
06-02-2012, 02:46 PM
Giraldo never stood a chance. Good to see Andy's back is better. He can easily beat his next opponent if his back stays fine. Ferrer will be hard but he can do it. Will he do it is the question.

Sapeod
06-02-2012, 02:47 PM
Easy for Drama queen
Please explain how he's a drama queen. You better not be meaning his match against Nieminen :facepalm:

MuzzahLovah
06-02-2012, 02:47 PM
Also, I liked the way he was playing. It would be easy to wait for Giraldo to miss, but Andy was being aggressive, moving forward and finishing a lot of points at net. I was watching this and the gasquet match, and compared too richie Andy was playing like Fed.

iriraz
06-02-2012, 02:48 PM
Way to many gifts by Giraldo in this one.Against Murray if u make lots of mistakes u got no shot.
Against Ferrer on the other hand,Murray has to be the aggressive player and he will have to play lots of long rallies.U wonder if he will hold up in a long,grinding match.

Mark Lenders
06-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Another cakewalk draw for Murray: Gasquet cannot beat him in best of five even if he gets 2-0 up and Haas, while he has the game, has played so many matches he's likely to get fatigued pretty soon against such a good defensive player as Murray.

Another semifinal for Murray, even while not fully healthy.

rocketassist
06-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Best clay match Andy's played this season. Controlled, aggressive, no dips.

Another cakewalk draw for Murray: Gasquet cannot beat him in best of five even if he gets 2-0 up and Haas, while he has the game, has played so many matches he's likely to get fatigued pretty soon against such a good defensive player as Murray.

Another semifinal for Murray, even while not fully healthy.

He won't beat Ferrer.

piksi
06-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Quick healer or pathetic faker - hard to tell which one is Murray.

Nr 1 Fan
06-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Another cakewalk draw for Murray: Gasquet cannot beat him in best of five even if he gets 2-0 up and Haas, while he has the game, has played so many matches he's likely to get fatigued pretty soon against such a good defensive player as Murray.

Another semifinal for Murray, even while not fully healthy.

No.

Third round: Giraldo > Mayer > Mahut > Devilder
Fourth round: Haas/Qasquet > tired Seppi > Goffin
QF: Ferrer > injured Delpo/tired Berdych > Wawrinka/Tsonga

70-68
06-02-2012, 03:02 PM
Another cakewalk draw for Murray: Gasquet cannot beat him in best of five even if he gets 2-0 up and Haas, while he has the game, has played so many matches he's likely to get fatigued pretty soon against such a good defensive player as Murray.

Another semifinal for Murray, even while not fully healthy.

None of the Top 4 got a harder draw than this until the QF (maybe Nadal if he gets Raonic next, but Raonic won't beat him), so just stop the BS


and Murray never beat Ferrer on clay

green25814
06-02-2012, 03:03 PM
Quick healer or pathetic faker - hard to tell which one is Murray.

Minor back spasms can come and go, so its understandable. Murray doesn't have a history of faking or retiring so I believe him.

GSMnadal
06-02-2012, 03:04 PM
Minor back spasms can come and go, so its understandable. Murray doesn't have a history of faking or retiring so I believe him.

Being down 6-1 2-0 against Niemienen on clay also adds to his case

Mark Lenders
06-02-2012, 03:07 PM
No.

Third round: Giraldo > Mayer > Mahut > Devilder
Fourth round: Haas/Qasquet > tired Seppi > Goffin
QF: Ferrer > injured Delpo/tired Berdych > Wawrinka/Tsonga

This is unfortunately kind of true. Kind of bizarre how there seem to be no genuine/obvious threats in the draw for the top players. I guess Raonic could be a tough opponent for Nadal if he makes it through (Monaco would just a lamb to the slaughter).

piksi
06-02-2012, 03:07 PM
Minor back spasms can come and go, so its understandable. Murray doesn't have a history of faking or retiring so I believe him.

I have not seen a Murray match in which he wasn't playing hurt one way or the other. It is a hamstring, or ankle or shoulder or something. It always happens when he is behind.

Certinfy
06-02-2012, 03:09 PM
No.

Third round: Giraldo > Mayer > Mahut > Devilder
Fourth round: Haas/Qasquet > tired Seppi > Goffin
QF: Ferrer > injured Delpo/tired Berdych > Wawrinka/Tsonga
Not saying a fully fit Ferrer isn't better than an injured Del Potro or tired Berdych, but i'm definitely sure the top 4 would rather play him than the other 2 regardless.

Sapeod
06-02-2012, 03:10 PM
Another cakewalk draw for Murray
It's not like the other members of the top 4 have had a harder draw. In fact, Murray has had the hardest opponents and with his back in the last round, has had the toughest road through. Stop whining.
Gasquet cannot beat him in best of five even if he gets 2-0 up and Haas, while he has the game, has played so many matches he's likely to get fatigued pretty soon against such a good defensive player as Murray.
Too bad.
Another semifinal for Murray, even while not fully healthy.
It shows how good he is that he can fight through to the latter stages of a slam while not fully fit. All of the top players can do that.

You'd have no problems if this draw belonged to Del Potro or someone you like.

Also, Ferrer is still in his quarter unless you think Ferrer is an easy match too. In fact, Ferrer is the hardest quarter-final opponent :stupid:
Quick healer or pathetic faker - hard to tell which one is Murray.
Are you stupid? If you had watched the match against Nieminen, you would know the answer :stupid:

hiperborejac
06-02-2012, 03:13 PM
I watched match at moments... Didn't notice Murray was so offensive like other posters say but he did defend extremely well. Some incredible cc fh winners from Giraldo. Good serving and serve % from Murray

Sapeod
06-02-2012, 03:13 PM
I have not seen a Murray match in which he wasn't playing hurt one way or the other. It is a hamstring, or ankle or shoulder or something. It always happens when he is behind.
If you had watched any Murray matches (like you say, lol) you will have noticed that even when winning Murray is always grabbing something, even after winning points.
Not saying a fully fit Ferrer isn't better than an injured Del Potro or tired Berdych, but i'm definitely sure the top 4 would rather play him than the other 2 regardless.
Ferrer is always there fighting. Del Potro and Berdych could have bad days and start throwing errors around everywhere. Ferrer doesn't do that and even when he's not at his best, he is still running around retrieving balls and grinding away. That said, it's easier to play Ferrer because he doesn't hit as hard, but he's more consistent and harder to hit winners against.

AndyUK
06-02-2012, 03:13 PM
Routine win for Murray and a good performance. The back didn't seem to be troubling him, which was a good sign.

I know people will be doubting the credibility of the injury but again, I really don't see what the point would be in faking an injury in that particular match at that time in a Grand Slam.

green25814
06-02-2012, 03:20 PM
I have not seen a Murray match in which he wasn't playing hurt one way or the other. It is a hamstring, or ankle or shoulder or something. It always happens when he is behind.

Yeah, I know, thats more just a habit for him though, I don't think he consciously does any of that. Its like Nadal and his rituals, or Roddick tugging his shirt.

Nr 1 Fan
06-02-2012, 03:20 PM
Not saying a fully fit Ferrer isn't better than an injured Del Potro or tired Berdych, but i'm definitely sure the top 4 would rather play him than the other 2 regardless.

Yeah that's why I said injured/tired. I agree fit Delpotro/Berdych are bigger threats than Ferrer, especially Berdych, because Delpo kinda bends over to Federer this year.

green25814
06-02-2012, 03:25 PM
Yeah that's why I said injured/tired. I agree fit Delpotro/Berdych are bigger threats than Ferrer, especially Berdych, because Delpo kinda bends over to Federer this year.

Fit Ferrer on clay > tired Berdych or Del Potro, easily. Even for the top 3

Nr 1 Fan
06-02-2012, 03:27 PM
Fit Ferrer on clay > tired Berdych or Del Potro, easily. Even for the top 3

Yes that's what I said in my first post. But if Berdych/Del Potro were fit they are a bigger threat as they can actually beat top three. Ferrer always pushes top three, but never beats them in the end.

*Jean*
06-02-2012, 04:10 PM
Santiago :sad:

henke007
06-02-2012, 05:04 PM
Murray's Draw :haha:

TigerTim
06-02-2012, 05:07 PM
Murray's Draw :haha:

The fact that the other Top 3 have had easier draws shows the opening week of this tourney for what it really is :o

Horatio Caine
06-02-2012, 06:57 PM
Watched the first two sets, and really enjoyed what I was seeing. :yeah:

Murray played very positively, which was a good sign. Also no sign of any back problems. That game of aces was awesome. Some big hitting by both guys, and nice winners. Fine tempo to the match, which I sensed the crowd was appreciating.

guga2120
06-02-2012, 07:26 PM
A bye to the SF pretty much.

If he was 100% he would be 50/50 with Ferrer at best. The ways he playing right now he would be lucky to get a set off him.

EddceLLent
06-02-2012, 07:30 PM
I have not seen a Murray match in which he wasn't playing hurt one way or the other. It is a hamstring, or ankle or shoulder or something. It always happens when he is behind.

That you say it "always happens when he's behind" rather than he's behind because he's suffering from some kind of physical problem only serves to highlight the inherent bias you have when considering the issue. What kind of rational person assumes the player is faking ahead of considering that they're behind because they're not at their best physically?

You sad sad individual, I honestly don't know how you sleep at night.

Allez
06-02-2012, 07:32 PM
An injury free Murray is a joy to watch. Best of luck against the talented Gasquet on Monday :yeah:

Horatio Caine
06-02-2012, 07:34 PM
If he was 100% he would be 50/50 with Ferrer at best. The ways he playing right now he would be lucky to get a set off him.

Even at 100%, he wouldn't be 50/50 with Ferrer on clay. More like 30/70.

When the draw came out, a QF would have been an acceptable result for Murray. Impossible to look any further, and we knew that a R16 with Gasquet would be very tough anyway.

NJ88
06-02-2012, 11:47 PM
Really good match from Murray. He had no dips, played aggressively, consistantly and with conviction. Really good performance, not really any signs of his back issues with is positive for him. He should certainly get through to the quater finals, but will face a bit of an issue with Ferrer in the quaters.

FlameOn
06-03-2012, 12:33 AM
Santi played really well I thought. A lot of really good rallies. I don't think Santi's quite used to (or able to handle) rallies that long where so many balls come back.

VolandriFan
06-03-2012, 03:27 AM
Santi played really well I thought. A lot of really good rallies. I don't think Santi's quite used to (or able to handle) rallies that long where so many balls come back.

Yes, that's a major issue. He can't match that intensity where he'd need to hit his best balls as consistent shots over all of those long rallies. He was never 'in' the match at all.

Busterovic
06-03-2012, 03:28 AM
Ferrer?

Gasquet?