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Who Will Be The Next Player To Win 4 Career Grand Slam Titles?

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 11:16 AM
The easiest answer here is Delpo. He's already got 1, he's creeped back into the top 10, and he's only 23.

But for me Delpo hasn't really improved at all since his US Open crown. In fact, I think he's gotten worse.

Andy Murray is my second favorite player on tour but for him I just don't see it happening. His record against Fed, Nadal and Nole in Grand Slams is terrible.

So who will it be? With Federer turning 31, Nadal turning 26 and Nole's recent struggles, someone has to win them when these guys inevitably slow down. As the old saying goes, father time is unbeaten.

Will it be a veteran like Berdych, Tsonga or Delpo who finally put it altogether and go on a rampage while taking advantage of the big 3+ Murray going through a downswing?

Or will it be one of the dangerous guns under the age of 22 that have shown loads and loads of signs?

Someone has to do it eventually . . .

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 11:20 AM
And I completely forgot to add Andy Murray on the list of options. Whoops

ServeVolley
06-01-2012, 11:23 AM
And I completely forgot to add Andy Murray on the list of options. Whoops

Sure you did. :p

Out of those options, I believe Raonic has the most promise (particularly as Nadal will be gone while he's still in his prime, and therefore winning RG shouldn't be so difficult). But remember Djokovic hasn't done it yet either, and there's a strong possibility he might be next.

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 11:28 AM
Sure you did. :p

Out of those options, I believe Raonic has the most promise (particularly as Nadal will be gone while he's still in his prime, and therefore RG shouldn't be a difficult as it was for Federer). But remember Djokovic hasn't done it yet either, and there's a possibility he might be the next.

No I really did :)

I agree completely. Something about that guy just has stardom written all over it.

Beating Muzza on clay really, really impressed me. Muzza sucks on clay but the way their games translate I figured Andy would routine him in Barcelona.

Instead Milos knocked him off in 2.

Taking Federer to 3 LONG sets in tournaments that the GOAT eventually ended up winning speaks for itself.

He's only 21 and has 3 career titles already.

Again, superstar written all over him

PedroMarquess
06-01-2012, 11:48 AM
Juan Carlos Ferrero? LOL Isner? LOL Brian Baker? Hewitt? C'mon dude. You must keep in mind that Nadal has 26 and Djokovic is even younger than most of the players you put on the list, they'll keep winning for 4 or 5 years and Federer problaly for more 2 or 3 years since he is in good shape. Only Delpo, Raonic and maybe Tomic have the potencial to do it, but I don't believe it.

Time Violation
06-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Let's see them get 1 slam first (or in Delpo's case one more)

bouncer7
06-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Sergio Ramos or Patrice Evra

Looner
06-01-2012, 12:23 PM
:facepalm:.

EliSter
06-01-2012, 12:30 PM
:facepalm:.

This. Idk are u plain stupid or know nothing abut tennis, Djokovic still have to do it...and he and Federer and Nadal are light milion years away infront of field, Olderer who is GOAT candidate bearly got 1 FO, same goes for Nadal USO. So answer is no, prolly in many years we wont see player getting 3 different GS let alone 4 :o

Time Violation
06-01-2012, 12:38 PM
This. Idk are u plain stupid or know nothing abut tennis, Djokovic still have to do it...and he and Federer and Nadal are light milion years away infront of field, Olderer who is GOAT candidate bearly got 1 FO, same goes for Nadal USO. So answer is no, prolly in many years we wont see player getting 3 different GS let alone 4 :o

I thought he meant totally 4, not career GS. Doesn't change much though.

Gagsquet
06-01-2012, 12:38 PM
Brian Baker lol :facepalm:

BauerAlmeida
06-01-2012, 12:40 PM
This. Idk are u plain stupid or know nothing abut tennis, Djokovic still have to do it...and he and Federer and Nadal are light milion years away infront of field, Olderer who is GOAT candidate bearly got 1 FO, same goes for Nadal USO. So answer is no, prolly in many years we wont see player getting 3 different GS let alone 4 :o

He never said different. And Ddjokovic already did it because he has 5.


I say Del Potro. In 2014/2015.

BauerAlmeida
06-01-2012, 12:40 PM
This. Idk are u plain stupid or know nothing abut tennis, Djokovic still have to do it...and he and Federer and Nadal are light milion years away infront of field, Olderer who is GOAT candidate bearly got 1 FO, same goes for Nadal USO. So answer is no, prolly in many years we wont see player getting 3 different GS let alone 4 :o

He never said different. And Ddjokovic already did it because he has 5.


I say Del Potro. In 2014/2015.

Chase Visa
06-01-2012, 12:45 PM
He means GS by the GS titles.

The only real answer is Raonic. Who voted Hewitt? :lol:

EliSter
06-01-2012, 12:50 PM
I see, my bad...maybe Raonic but that is doubtfull.

Looner
06-01-2012, 12:58 PM
Ah, so it was a number of GSs... Could have been clearer. I don't think any of the ones there can win 4. The next generation is bound to show up by the time the Top 3 leave and they can't be as bad as this one. So I am expecting a lot of 2-3 (max) GS winners.

Burrow
06-01-2012, 12:58 PM
No I really did :)

I agree completely. Something about that guy just has stardom written all over it.

Beating Muzza on clay really, really impressed me. Muzza sucks on clay but the way their games translate I figured Andy would routine him in Barcelona.

Instead Milos knocked him off in 2.

Taking Federer to 3 LONG sets in tournaments that the GOAT eventually ended up winning speaks for itself.

He's only 21 and has 3 career titles already.

Again, superstar written all over him

You know that the current generation of youngsters are weak when people are predicting superstardom over winning 3 250 events, beating Murray on clay and losing in 3 sets to Federer twice.

It's very difficult to give an accurate prediction. The current generation have showed very little promise. The only one to win a title is Raonic and even he hasn't managed to reach a quarter-final at a Slam or a Masters 1000. Then there's Tomic who is 2 years younger and hasn't done much. Had he beaten Djokovic at Wimbledon last year, where he had an excellent chance to go 2 sets to 1 up, I think his career would've really taken off. Instead, it's been quite miserable since. He's only 19 though, so it would be wrong to be too harsh on him considering he's performed well at 2 of the slams. Those two are by far the best of their generation, in my opinion. I'm not sure whether in a couple of years it'll be a case of them taking out the current top 3 or whether in 5-6 years time, they will be the best of a bad bunch.

I'd guess that it would be one of those two but I can't say that with any certainty.

In the late 90's and early 2000's youngsters (Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, Roddick) showed promise on a much wider scale, in slams and by winning big titles. And they showed they were physically ready by outlasting more accomplished opponents in best of 5 set formats which also showed a certain degree of mental strength.

The lack of dedication to strength and conditioning is a bit frustrating amongst these younger players. They're losing matches on just that when their tennis ability is more than good enough to progress up the rankings. They're essentially wasting time. I think they need to go and have a chat with Andy Murray, who finished the 2007 season looking physically under par and quickly progressed after the off season and the following months. He completely transformed himself and now the physical aspect of his game is arguably his main strength.

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 01:07 PM
Juan Carlos Ferrero? LOL Isner? LOL Brian Baker? Hewitt? C'mon dude. You must keep in mind that Nadal has 26 and Djokovic is even younger than most of the players you put on the list, they'll keep winning for 4 or 5 years and Federer problaly for more 2 or 3 years since he is in good shape. Only Delpo, Raonic and maybe Tomic have the potencial to do it, but I don't believe it.

Ferrero and Hewitt are only on the list because they're way way closer to 5 than anyone else including the likes of Del Potro and Murray

Why is Isner so laughable? On the list of people outside the big 3+Murray who have a chance to win a GS he has to be right near the top.

Brian Baker was clearly on as a joke.

Lighten up people. Its a poll for fun on a message board. No need to be so critical.

Time Violation
06-01-2012, 01:15 PM
Ferrero and Hewitt are only on the list because they're way way closer to 5 than anyone else including the likes of Del Potro and Murray

Why is Isner so laughable? On the list of people outside the big 3+Murray who have a chance to win a GS he has to be right near the top.

They are not closer, they have more slams at the moment, but 0% chance of winning more. Isner is 27 and hasn't performed that well in slams so far

AsianSensation
06-01-2012, 01:23 PM
I'm so fucking confused at the topic title....

Gagsquet
06-01-2012, 01:24 PM
The OP should be judged in La Haye.

Chirag
06-01-2012, 01:30 PM
Raonic maybe :p

tripwires
06-01-2012, 01:43 PM
Clearly it's Isner. :hearts:

Mark Lenders
06-01-2012, 01:51 PM
Of the current established players, only Del Potro has the potential to win that many Slams. And he is so injury prone and had so many setbacks that it probably won't happen, definitely wouldn't put my money on it.

Murray, Berdych, Tsonga... can potentially win one Slam, but never four - at least I can't see it happen. In all likelihood, it will be someone yet to break through, from the new generation.

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 02:05 PM
Of the current established players, only Del Potro has the potential to win that many Slams. And he is so injury prone and had so many setbacks that it probably won't happen, definitely wouldn't put my money on it.

Murray, Berdych, Tsonga... can potentially win one Slam, but never four - at least I can't see it happen. In all likelihood, it will be someone yet to break through, from the new generation.

Theres four every year so someone has to win them.

We're looking at the tail end of the career of the greatest player ever.

Nadal and Djokovic are still in their prime but what about when they start to regress a little?

Someone's gotta win them.

Johnny Groove
06-01-2012, 02:54 PM
None.

People acting like its so easy to win the Career Grand Slam cause Fed and Nadal and Agassi and almost Djokovic have done it.

I'm telling you, we won't see another Career Grand Slam after possibly Djokovic for another 20-30 years.

If we are talking 4 total slams, then yeah, it could happen. Delpo I guess, he's the closest and youngest. Berdych 2nd.

rocketassist
06-01-2012, 02:59 PM
None.

People acting like its so easy to win the Career Grand Slam cause Fed and Nadal and Agassi and almost Djokovic have done it.

I'm telling you, we won't see another Career Grand Slam after possibly Djokovic for another 20-30 years.

If we are talking 4 total slams, then yeah, it could happen. Delpo I guess, he's the closest and youngest. Berdych 2nd.

Call me biased but Murray would probably have AO, W and USO in the bag and he's reached one RG semi already if you took those three players out of the equation. Would he have done a CGS? Very possibly. That to me is concrete evidence about how much easier it is to win it.

Johnny Groove
06-01-2012, 03:09 PM
Call me biased but Murray would probably have AO, W and USO in the bag and he's reached one RG semi already if you took those three players out of the equation. Would he have done a CGS? Very possibly. That to me is concrete evidence about how much easier it is to win it.

If my aunt had balls and didn't fuck my uncle, I wouldn't have cousins.

We can do this all day. Reality is, Murray has ZERO slams, and the top 3 DO exist. And even if they didn't, what is to say Murray wouldn't lose to guys like Delpo or Berdych or Tsonga? This is the same guy losing to Cilic, Verdasco, and Wawrinka in slams. It is never and has never been "easy" to win a CGS. Biased fans talk shit left and right, the smart thing is to disregard at least 95% of what you read on here.

Given that, I do not believe we will see another CGS in decades.

hiperborejac
06-01-2012, 03:10 PM
Nobody from the list I say... Till some new wunderkind emerges on the scene...

AncicCilic
06-01-2012, 03:17 PM
Andy Murray. I have a feeling that once he wins his first slam the psichological barrier that currently exists will be lifted.

Also, it will happen if he can stay consistent enough up to the time when Roger retires and Nadal gets closer to retirement.

I can see him winning 2 AO, 1-2 Wimby and 1-2 USO, no RG.

TigerTim
06-01-2012, 03:19 PM
if Murray wins a slam this year than he can get 4. Del Potro maybe in between this era and the next. some bloke we've never heard of most likely.

rocketassist
06-01-2012, 03:47 PM
If my aunt had balls and didn't fuck my uncle, I wouldn't have cousins.

We can do this all day. Reality is, Murray has ZERO slams, and the top 3 DO exist. And even if they didn't, what is to say Murray wouldn't lose to guys like Delpo or Berdych or Tsonga? This is the same guy losing to Cilic, Verdasco, and Wawrinka in slams. It is never and has never been "easy" to win a CGS. Biased fans talk shit left and right, the smart thing is to disregard at least 95% of what you read on here.

Given that, I do not believe we will see another CGS in decades.

You can't disregard the similarity in surface speeds has made it easier than it was though, even Federer admits it.

Leo
06-01-2012, 03:54 PM
Um. Is this a serious thread? None of these.

I would give best chance to Tomic in the future, second best to Raonic. Maybe Murray if he wins one and becomes a mental giant one day (and Nadal/Djok/Fed are used goods). But seriously, I don't think any of these crew. Maybe someone waiting in the wings, though.

Johnny Groove
06-01-2012, 05:06 PM
You can't disregard the similarity in surface speeds has made it easier than it was though, even Federer admits it.

I still think surface homogenization reaction has been far overblown, especially here. Yeah the surfaces are more similar now than they were before, but it isn't all the same as some mugs on here would like to think. I think some on here, you included, whine about surface speeds because Nadal and now Djokovic are getting closer and closer to your beloved Federer's records.

For example, if it is Lopez vs. Almagro on grass, Lopez will win. If it is Lopez vs. Almagro on clay, Almagro will win. If Roddick plays on hard or grass, he may have a chance to win a match or two. On clay? ZERO. What about Tomic? He can't play to well on clay, but made 4th round at the AO, and QF at Wimbledon last year. And so on, with every player outside the top 3/4. Why do you think Tsonga has a SF at Wimbledon and a F at AO, but has never made the 2nd week in Paris? Why do you think Karlovic has a QF at Wimbledon, but never past R16 elsewhere? Do you think Isner and Mahut would go 70-68 at the AO or RG? Point is, surface homogenization has occurred, yes. But the extent of the homogenization is WAAAAY overrated on MTF.

Maybe the guys at the top today are all time greats and we should appreciate this era we have now instead of denigrating their achievements?

duchuy89
06-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Juan Martin Del Potro.

green25814
06-01-2012, 05:22 PM
Raonic has the most potential out of the youngsters, but I don't see him winning FO or AO. The answer is probably some kid we don't know about yet.

rocketassist
06-01-2012, 05:27 PM
I still think surface homogenization reaction has been far overblown, especially here. Yeah the surfaces are more similar now than they were before, but it isn't all the same as some mugs on here would like to think. I think some on here, you included, whine about surface speeds because Nadal and now Djokovic are getting closer and closer to your beloved Federer's records.

For example, if it is Lopez vs. Almagro on grass, Lopez will win. If it is Lopez vs. Almagro on clay, Almagro will win. If Roddick plays on hard or grass, he may have a chance to win a match or two. On clay? ZERO. What about Tomic? He can't play to well on clay, but made 4th round at the AO, and QF at Wimbledon last year. And so on, with every player outside the top 3/4. Why do you think Tsonga has a SF at Wimbledon and a F at AO, but has never made the 2nd week in Paris? Why do you think Karlovic has a QF at Wimbledon, but never past R16 elsewhere? Do you think Isner and Mahut would go 70-68 at the AO or RG? Point is, surface homogenization has occurred, yes. But the extent of the homogenization is WAAAAY overrated on MTF.

Maybe the guys at the top today are all time greats and we should appreciate this era we have now instead of denigrating their achievements?

Dent against DGT on grass?
Almagro against Isner on grass?

As for Isner-Mahut if it had been played on Centre or Court 1 (far slower) then 70-68 would have been a pipedream. Wimbledon's outside courts are much quicker and they never suffer wear and tear as they don't use them in the 2nd week.

Yeah the achievements are good, but they're not as good as if they had been achieved in the past (Agassi's CGS is the most impressive for sure)

Federer isn't my beloved and never will be either. He's alright as the slam record holder, but I even prefer Sampras as a player to him. He took advantage of sped up clay the way the other two have feasted on ultra slow grass (on the main courts) and slowed down hard.

Chris Kuerten
06-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Fognini or Dolgopolov.

LastRocket
06-01-2012, 06:04 PM
None in the list
Career Grand Slam is an anomaly.

ChampionshipPoints
06-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Raonic has the most potential out of the youngsters, but I don't see him winning FO or AO. The answer is probably some kid we don't know about yet.

:smash:How old would this kid be today? 11/12? And he would start winning slams by the age of 16/17 before the big guys retire? Do you see how much sense you are making?