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How will Nadal's body be in 4-5 years time?

fsoica
05-31-2012, 04:46 PM
I am a member here, on MTF, for some time, almost 6 years...

I remember people saying even in '06-'07 that, by the age of 26 Rafa will be a physically finished player. Hewitt and/or Borg comparisons all over the place...

Here we are, a couple of days before Rafa's 26th birthday, and the Bull is stronger than ever, eager to win more than ever and with his 7th RG almost a lock.

People are saying Roger is a young 30 years old, but in my opinion Rafa will be also one, 4 and a half or 5 years from now, against all the odds.

Only if by then he would have won everything in sight and surpassed all the records (which is not at all a far-fetched scenario) I see him losing some of his concentration and will to win. And even in this scenario I am not so sure about that.

The guy is the ultimate will-to-win-and-concentration tennis-machine. I am not even sure if he is human :)

What do you think? Will Rafa be a young 30 years old 4 years from now or not? Will he win majors in his 30s?

Poirot123
05-31-2012, 04:54 PM
I am a member here, on MTF, for some time, almost 6 years...

I remember people saying even in '06-'07 that, by the age of 26 Rafa will be a physically finished player. Hewitt and/or Borg comparisons all over the place...

Here we are, a couple of days before Rafa's 26th birthday, and the Bull is stronger than ever, eager to win more than ever and with his 7th RG almost a lock.

People are saying Roger is a young 30 years old, but in my opinion Rafa will be also one, 4 and a half or 5 years from now, against all the odds.

Only if by then he would have won everything in sight and surpassed all the records (which is not at all a far-fetched scenario) I see him losing some of his concentration and will to win. And even in this scenario I am not so sure about that.

The guy is the ultimate will-to-win-and-concentration tennis-machine. I am not even sure if he is human :)

What do you think? Will Rafa be a young 30 years old 4 years from now or not?

Couple of things to bear in mind:

1. As far as I remember, Nadal hasn't won a title off of clay since May 2011.

2. Nadal had to retire from his hard court semifinal in Miami this year because of injury worries.

Is it therefore fair to say, on clay Nadal will remain an absolute beast. But off clay (with the possible exception of grass), Nadal's body might not be able to hold up to the level necessary to get the job done against the best of the best, unless he changes his style of play(*).

(*) I saw Nadal come to the net a lot today V Istomin, shortening the points. Maybe, there is a slow evolution in his game. And maybe, his playing doubles a lot recently was all part of this plan, sharpening up on those volleys.

Kiedis
05-31-2012, 05:51 PM
Couple of things to bear in mind:

1. As far as I remember, Nadal hasn't won a title off of clay since May 2011.

2. Nadal had to retire from his hard court semifinal in Miami this year because of injury worries.

Is it therefore fair to say, on clay Nadal will remain an absolute beast. But off clay (with the possible exception of grass), Nadal's body might not be able to hold up to the level necessary to get the job done against the best of the best, unless he changes his style of play(*).

(*) I saw Nadal come to the net a lot today V Istomin, shortening the points. Maybe, there is a slow evolution in his game. And maybe, his playing doubles a lot recently was all part of this plan, sharpening up on those volleys.

No Djkovic, and 2 o 3 slams more.

Leo
05-31-2012, 05:54 PM
I don't know about 4-5 years, but could be struggling in 10 yrs when retired. Djokovic too.

tektonac
05-31-2012, 05:57 PM
genetic engineering will be in a pretty good shape in 4-5 years, so i expect nadal to get brand new babolat knees.

Roger the Dodger
05-31-2012, 06:00 PM
Nadal will continue to win on clay for 4 more years and be a threat to anyone at RG. But outside of clay, the better opponents can get the better of him.

Fumus
05-31-2012, 06:01 PM
Not like a rose.

TigerTim
05-31-2012, 06:04 PM
in a wheelchair

Telegram Sam
05-31-2012, 06:08 PM
Couple of things to bear in mind:

1. As far as I remember, Nadal hasn't won a title off of clay since May 2011.

But also, in a Major, he wasn't out before the final since January 2011. And he'd been losing finals (8 of them!) to the same guy (except Tokyo), who was better than him -- and everybody else. I don't think Nadal is playing any worse than he did in the past. It's just that there was a larger force out there, and hopefully that started to shift this season.

2. Nadal had to retire from his hard court semifinal in Miami this year because of injury worries.

Injury worries or taking some rest? Just like Nole was injured at MC 2011. They're all actors. (And it pays off.)

martinatreue
05-31-2012, 06:16 PM
he will be healthier than ever even after driving a stake through his heart repeatedly. He is a zombie and vampirish demon. All kidding aside, I do think that people are exaggerating how bad his health will be/has been in order to make us all bow down to how amazing he is. It's all part of the drama :rolleyes:

buzz
05-31-2012, 06:20 PM
I was one of the guys who thought he would get more injuries than he had. Not that I thought he wouldn't be succesfull! Hope he can keep his fitness up, for me he is an absolute retrieving/fitness/topspin legend! But 85+kg very movement reliant, playing long rallies and knees that have been hurting him from his early twenties. Also his muscle development began at a very early age(at 18 he probably had the biggest biceps on tour) and in general those guys they decline physically earlier. So I don't think he will keep up more than 3 years at top3 level.

Roger the Dodger
05-31-2012, 06:25 PM
Nadal is a full-time actor. His injuries are pretensions to get the tour to notice how physical his game is. If he thinks people can't see how often he fakes it, and the record books are going to totally ignore his lack of ethics so that he goes down in history as "one-of-the-greatest" without scrutiny into his lack of ethics, he should know that there are those who observe critically and will live to tell the truth about "Humbalitos".

He will skip and bounce after retiring and show the world he took them for a ride!

Telegram Sam
05-31-2012, 06:33 PM
Nadal is a full-time actor. His injuries are pretensions to get the tour to notice how physical his game is. If he thinks people can't see how often he fakes it, and the record books are going to totally ignore his lack of ethics so that he goes down in history as "one-of-the-greatest" without scrutiny into his lack of ethics, he should know that there are those who observe critically and will live to tell the truth about "Humbalitos"

Maybe. Same with Novak. But this is something you can never prove, and that's why you sound like a hater now. Ethics? Please.

If you want to be objective, talk about facts. Numbers, statistics. Tears.

Nadal seems like a great fellow.

sammy01
05-31-2012, 07:23 PM
probably still ripped and still hot

born_on_clay
05-31-2012, 07:44 PM
he will be still a force but only on clay

Super Djoker
05-31-2012, 11:17 PM
Withdrew from Miami this year ! Missed Wimbledon 2009 ! Retired 2010 Aussie Open v Murray ! Allways has his knees taped up ! And fingers ! He is turning 26 and I am sure by 30 he will be a wreck ! Even before then maybe !

Sillyrabbit
05-31-2012, 11:20 PM
Bionic legs

Looner
05-31-2012, 11:27 PM
I've given up on predicting with regards to Nadal's "injuries". I believe it when he retires injured from the sport. As for now, I think he's carefully saving himself (like in Miami) for the important events. Watch him steamroll everyone at RG and win Wimbey as well.

Not like a rose.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

SaFed2005
06-01-2012, 01:09 AM
He will continue having "career threatening knee injuries" but winning easily and running like a bunny regardless.

SaFed2005
06-01-2012, 01:28 AM
I've given up on predicting with regards to Nadal's "injuries". I believe it when he retires injured from the sport. As for now, I think he's carefully saving himself (like in Miami) for the important events. Watch him steamroll everyone at RG and win Wimbey as well.



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


Exactly, I could not have put it any better. The keyword here is "injuries"

BroTree123
06-01-2012, 01:36 AM
Even stronger than before.

Topspindoctor
06-01-2012, 01:42 AM
Haters hoping for Nadal to wear himself out. NID.

duchuy89
06-01-2012, 02:37 AM
I love Nadal. He is the best!

Mountaindewslave
06-01-2012, 04:10 AM
obviously in 4-5 years all of the current top players will have sufficiently degraded physically so this is strange to ask.

however it's true that people on this board have for years thought Nadal would start to suffer much much earlier in his career.

let's be honest in probably 2-3 years Nadal will just begin to do a Serena Williams like career where he skips/doesn't care about most tour events and saves his best for slams.

his body will hold up probably because he is likely to not care outside of slams and the clay season which if he succeeds at he can still stay on top

Topspindoctor
06-01-2012, 04:14 AM
obviously in 4-5 years all of the current top players will have sufficiently degraded physically so this is strange to ask.

however it's true that people on this board have for years thought Nadal would start to suffer much much earlier in his career.

let's be honest in probably 2-3 years Nadal will just begin to do a Serena Williams like career where he skips/doesn't care about most tour events and saves his best for slams.

his body will hold up probably because he is likely to not care outside of slams and the clay season which if he succeeds at he can still stay on top

Nadal will never disrespect the sport and his fans like that. I'd rather he retired with honor, rather than mug around and tank everywhere except the 4 events per year.

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 06:14 AM
I am a member here, on MTF, for some time, almost 6 years...

I remember people saying even in '06-'07 that, by the age of 26 Rafa will be a physically finished player. Hewitt and/or Borg comparisons all over the place...

Here we are, a couple of days before Rafa's 26th birthday, and the Bull is stronger than ever, eager to win more than ever and with his 7th RG almost a lock.

People are saying Roger is a young 30 years old, but in my opinion Rafa will be also one, 4 and a half or 5 years from now, against all the odds.

Only if by then he would have won everything in sight and surpassed all the records (which is not at all a far-fetched scenario) I see him losing some of his concentration and will to win. And even in this scenario I am not so sure about that.

The guy is the ultimate will-to-win-and-concentration tennis-machine. I am not even sure if he is human :)

What do you think? Will Rafa be a young 30 years old 4 years from now or not? Will he win majors in his 30s?

Yes people thought there would be a physical decline in Nadal's game when he got older, but I don't think anyone said at 26. He is just turning 26, most tennis players physical prime is from 21-27. I think people expect Rafa to hit a wall at 28. That could still easily happen.

Stronger than ever? More eager to win than ever? Based on what? Good for him that he got revenge on Nole in MC and Rome but RG is no lock and even if it is it means nothing. He might be unlocking the domination that Nole has him on clay but that doesn't mean that it will translate on grass and on HC.

If Rafa isn't human whoever created him deserves to give a refund. Anyone who loses to another player 7 straight times in a final has much to prove.

delpiero7
06-01-2012, 09:18 AM
I seem to remember MTF saying he was done in mid 2009 when he lost to Soderling, missed Wimbledon and got blown off the court by Delpo in the US Open.

acionescu
06-01-2012, 10:39 AM
Still awesome :drool:

Sophocles
06-01-2012, 11:07 AM
Perfectly designed for fishing.

duarte_a
06-01-2012, 12:01 PM
I've given up on predicting with regards to Nadal's "injuries". I believe it when he retires injured from the sport. As for now, I think he's carefully saving himself (like in Miami) for the important events. Watch him steamroll everyone at RG and win Wimbey as well.



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

C'mon looner... We all know RG is a lock for nadull but wimbledon is not. Even though Wimbledon now plays like clay Roger still has a chance.

On topic, nadull fakes a lot so I don't know what to believe. His PR team is very good and maybe all the stories like the knee one in this year's AO (which nadal almost won) are just made up to make nadal look like a spartan warrior/hero.

All those stories make some blind obssessive nadull fans say things like "nadal never loses when he is healthy" (on another tennis related website)... :rolleyes:

Commander Data
06-01-2012, 12:35 PM
in 5 years it will be like he says it is now.

tyruk14
06-01-2012, 01:20 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WSIWExR72CM/R1_6LTEZmOI/AAAAAAAAAFo/RfSLQlYL76k/s400/fat-guy-seat.jpg

swebright
06-01-2012, 01:36 PM
I think his body has stabilized. It was very critical back in 08,09 but it looks like he can keep on playing at high level for next 10 years. Not what it used to be, but still nobody can beat him.

I am not even sure his body will break down more. He seems very refreshed since the beginning of the year! If Roger keeps playing till 35, Rafa could follow easily and win 20 more slams? That would be a disaster ........ or a absolute triumph.

zeleni
06-01-2012, 01:39 PM
he still will be excellent player, but not better than nole who will be even better than fed is now.

TigerTim
06-01-2012, 02:18 PM
http://www.itftennis.com/media/119711/119711_BigPicture.jpg

Telegram Sam
06-01-2012, 02:25 PM
I love Nadal. He is the best!

Me too! He's my favorite sportsperson ever. Also a huge role model.

Let's hope he'll stay healthy and competitive for many years to come. It's a pleasure (and honor) watching him play!

Nadal: :cool:

Fed(tards): :scared:

Fumus
06-01-2012, 02:36 PM
I seem to remember MTF saying he was done in mid 2009 when he lost to Soderling, missed Wimbledon and got blown off the court by Delpo in the US Open.

MTF has never missed a prediction in the history of tennis. I remember when many said Roger wouldn't be the next top tennis star and that he couldn't win the US Open because of the hustle and bustle of the city.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=7015

SERBINATOR
06-01-2012, 06:14 PM
Retired or Hospitalised

tribalfusion
06-01-2012, 06:15 PM
http://www.itftennis.com/media/119711/119711_BigPicture.jpg

Is this supposed to be humorous?

Howard
06-01-2012, 06:35 PM
He'll be rich enough to replace worn out parts wholesale