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Is it a suprise that Isner hasn't passed 2nd round at Wimbledon?

jrm
05-31-2012, 05:32 PM
I know he hasn't come very far but when i went to see the results i expected a few 4th, 3rd rounds to be honest :shrug:

viruzzz
05-31-2012, 05:33 PM
Well... 2010 wasn't a very good chance, don't you think?

Johnny Groove
05-31-2012, 05:35 PM
He's only played Wimbledon 3 times :shrug:

08, he was more one dimensional, and lost a slug fest with Gulbis in 4. Missed in 09, in 2010 had the epic with Mahut and was dead the next round, and in 2011 lost another slug fest with Almugro in the 2nd round in 4.

His returns and movement are the biggest issues.

bjurra
05-31-2012, 05:36 PM
Obviously yes even though low bouncing surfaces don't suit him.

156mphserve
05-31-2012, 05:36 PM
give him a break. He played 5 matches in 1 in 2010. I consider that at least a SF

Action Jackson
05-31-2012, 05:37 PM
The lack of returning skills.

rocketassist
05-31-2012, 05:37 PM
He'll be better this year.

Mark Lenders
05-31-2012, 05:39 PM
No.

Fast, low bouncing surface gives him no time to set up his shots. He's basically Karlovic in such surfaces, relies on serve and little else. Can't be even minimally competitive from the baseline and his return is terrible.

Not to mention he played the longest match ever in the 2010 edition with Mahut. But we should never expect great results from him on grass imo. He needs slow/medium and high bouncing surfaces to set up his shots.

deyaT87
05-31-2012, 07:22 PM
really? I didn't know this.
maybe this year he will have more luck ;)

kiriri***
05-31-2012, 07:36 PM
No. Isner has played on grass only a few times.
I think grass is his worst surface for him. Low bounce and slipy balls.

born_on_clay
05-31-2012, 08:28 PM
He's nothing but a serve
I'm not surprised on this one

mooncreek
05-31-2012, 09:31 PM
In 2011, there was the hype of Isner-Mahut: The Sequel, which may not have been a physical match but was a mental issue in preparing for the event. If you keep Mahut out of it, I do think he'll do a bit better this year.

hipolymer
05-31-2012, 09:46 PM
2010 is no excuse, He should be beating Mahut in straights.

LleytonMonfils
05-31-2012, 10:10 PM
The lack of returning skills.

Shocked this wasn't the first post. The guy can't break anyone consistently so he gets dragged into these marathon matches. He's Roddick in his prime except wayyyyyyy taller and that's not a good thing.

misty1
05-31-2012, 10:24 PM
not really. Yes he has only played a few and we can take 2010 out of the equation. However he's not very good on the surface for the reasons that other posters have mentioned.

but he's not really a slam player. In 17 slam main draw appearances he's only made 1 QF and been to the 4th round just twice

Gagsquet
05-31-2012, 10:27 PM
Aesthete of the game. Always looking for epic five setter, he doesn't care about going through rounds :shrug:

jrm
05-31-2012, 11:36 PM
He's nothing but a serve
I'm not surprised on this one

:confused:

you don't get in top10 with serve only :o

Topspindoctor
06-01-2012, 01:40 AM
Considering Isner couldn't break a 12 year old girl, his Wimbledon results aren't a surprise at all.

tripwires
06-01-2012, 03:42 AM
Considering Isner couldn't break a 12 year old girl, his Wimbledon results aren't a surprise at all.

Who's this 12 year old girl that you speak of?

Topspindoctor
06-01-2012, 03:48 AM
Who's this 12 year old girl that you speak of?

It's an exaggeration, obviously. His return games won is 11% for this year, below Karlovic, which is utterly pathetic. He's a pure definition of a serve bot with absolutely no game.

tripwires
06-01-2012, 03:51 AM
It's an exaggeration, obviously. His return games won is 11% for this year, below Karlovic, which is utterly pathetic. He's a pure definition of a serve bot with absolutely no game.

I thought you were referring to his recent results considering your use of "couldn't".

As to the rest of your post: :zzz:

Edda
06-01-2012, 03:59 AM
No surprise considering all of those freak ultramarathon matches he plays. How does he even stay standing up after that?

GSMnadal
06-01-2012, 07:41 AM
He should've beaten De Bakker after that Mahut match, come on, it's De Bakker :p

born_on_clay
06-01-2012, 08:38 AM
It's an exaggeration, obviously. His return games won is 11% for this year, below Karlovic, which is utterly pathetic. He's a pure definition of a serve bot with absolutely no game.

this
:hatoff:

Busterovic
06-01-2012, 08:38 AM
No.

Fast, low bouncing surface gives him no time to set up his shots. He's basically Karlovic in such surfaces, relies on serve and little else. Can't be even minimally competitive from the baseline and his return is terrible.

Not to mention he played the longest match ever in the 2010 edition with Mahut. But we should never expect great results from him on grass imo. He needs slow/medium and high bouncing surfaces to set up his shots.

While this is all true he did win Rhode Island last year on grass.

The level of competition there was elementary compared to what he'll face face at Wimbledon but it goes to show he's not a complete dunce on the surface.

I think the first week of the tournament the surface is so, so fast that he'll be a factor this year.

But its the same story for Isner at a GS again. He can't put opponents away in straight sets (or even 4 sets) without playing a marathon match with draining tiebreakers.

His only real shot to advance deep at a GS is at the USO but any kind of decent performance at Wimby is a bonus.

duchuy89
06-01-2012, 09:08 AM
Fighting Isner.

BroTree123
06-01-2012, 09:09 AM
:confused:

you don't get in top10 with serve only :o

You can with the help of a weak era :o

tripwires
06-01-2012, 10:14 AM
You can with the help of a weak era :o

Huh? Isn't this the strongest era of all-time? I thought Federer's era was the weak era.

Sophocles
06-01-2012, 12:03 PM
No I'm not surprised. Without a better return he will inevitably end up in marathons early in slams & he doesn't have the physical conditioning to play several marathons in a row.

romismak
06-01-2012, 12:11 PM
No, it is no surprise, i don´t think Isner will ever make it to R4 at Wimby, simply he is playing when grass is fastest-lower bounce and grass is clearly his worst surface, his great kick serve is less effective here, his time for movement, set up shots, go for big FH and everything is more difficult for him - i am sure Wimbledon will be his worst slam in his career, already he was pretty succesfull at USO - QF there, and i think he will be in his career more succesfull at both AO and RG than WImbledon

Wing Man Frank
06-01-2012, 12:59 PM
No, because he's an unfit lazy fucker.

People go on and on about his match vs Mahut, but it wasn't exactly grueling rallies, was it?

He'll never achieve anything in the slams as his body can't handle 5 sets. Utterly pathetic.

swebright
06-01-2012, 02:06 PM
Yes and No. Wimbledon is second clay slam in recent years.:devil:

timafi
06-01-2012, 02:36 PM
if you can put your racket on that fucker's serve and hold on to yours,good chance he will lose and that's what Paulo did to his ass yesterday