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How hard is Federer's draw up to the QFs of RG 2012

Looner
05-30-2012, 07:26 PM
So how hard is it? Go on, have a say.

Certinfy
05-30-2012, 07:27 PM
As hard as it gets really, don't think I've ever seen a harder draw. If anything only Nadal's Wimbledon 2010 draws comes close to being this hard.

Looner
05-30-2012, 07:28 PM
As hard as it gets really, don't think I've ever seen a harder draw. If anything only Nadal's Wimbledon 2010 draws comes close to being this hard.

I completely agree. You can vote now.

asmazif
05-30-2012, 07:33 PM
went for the middle two

Looner
05-30-2012, 07:34 PM
Flukerer got a cakewalk again. Is that really a surprise?

Negative. N/A. Please see the poll.

tangerine_dream
05-30-2012, 07:36 PM
Looner, I'm in Ur Federer thread, being Ur tard.

Say Hey Kid
05-30-2012, 07:38 PM
Kamke - Hard first rnd opponent for sure, up and coming. Not a nightmare first round opponent for Federer, there could have been worst draws, but drawing Kamke first round will make any veteran upset.

Ungur - Claycourt specialist who in the first round just defeated the most talented player to ever pick up a racquet (next to Donald Young). On hardcourt perhaps this would be a easy matchup, but in RG meeting Ungur before the 4th rnd/QF is just a flat out tough draw.

Mahut - In the form of his life routining former grand champion and world #1. On top of that he is a frenchman so he has the crowd behind him. Very possible if Mahut beats Federer he could be playing on the final Sunday of Roland Garros. With the way Mahut is playing, meeting him before the QF is harsh.

Kubot/Goffin/Clement - All three will be tough 4R opponents. Kubot a veteran who does notoriously well in slams. Goffin up and coming star, not someone who you want to face in 4R. Clement, he has played on the final Sunday of a slam before, so meeting Clement before the QF or perhaps even the SF is not easy. Yes, Clement has aged, but he knows how to win the big matches in the big grand slams. Nightmare opponent.

Is this the hardest draw I've ever seen? No, but it sure is pretty damn close.

MaxPower
05-30-2012, 07:41 PM
It's hard. Hard as a rock. The weenies draw are soft, soft as their fans

Looner
05-30-2012, 08:21 PM
I mean I cannot imagine how Fed has won these two matches. He'll barely have enough strength to lift that RG trophy after he beats the mugs at the tail-end of the tournament following these exhausting clay grind contests. Mahut will be hell.

Raferminator
05-30-2012, 08:30 PM
Muger, you got to be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes and when you're on the ATP Council you've got to be able to pick out the cupcake draws with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, you've got to lie when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style; like the man's purse, and the dull all-serve game and a certain look in the eye and the phony smile. You have to be trusted by the Fedtards that you lie to so that when they turn their backs on you you'll get the chance to put the knife in. :mad:

Muger, you gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder. You know, it's starting to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older. Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south and hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man all alone and dying of envy.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and you lose to Rafole and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around!!! :mad: So have a good drown, Muger, as you go down all alone, DRAGGED down by Rafole !!!

Mark Lenders
05-30-2012, 08:36 PM
Muger, you got to be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes and when you're on the ATP Council you've got to be able to pick out the cupcake draws with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, you've got to lie when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style; like the man's purse, and the dull all-serve game and a certain look in the eye and the phony smile. You have to be trusted by the Fedtards that you lie to so that when they turn their backs on you you'll get the chance to put the knife in. :mad:

Muger, you gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder. You know, it's starting to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older. Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south and hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man all alone and dying of envy.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and you lose to Rafole and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around!!! :mad: So have a good drown, Muger, as you go down all alone, DRAGGED down by Rafole !!!

Someone has had one too many, eh?

SimaoPancao
05-30-2012, 08:41 PM
This is a horrible draw. Kamke in 1st round is effortless, Ungur surprised me today, but is a simple win for Federer, Mahut is a decent player and Kubot/Goffin/Clement he should be at home if he can`t beat those guys. He will reach QF without playing a single seeded. The problem with Federer is that sometimes he tends to complicate what is simple.

BauerAlmeida
05-30-2012, 09:07 PM
Muger, you got to be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes and when you're on the ATP Council you've got to be able to pick out the cupcake draws with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, you've got to lie when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style; like the man's purse, and the dull all-serve game and a certain look in the eye and the phony smile. You have to be trusted by the Fedtards that you lie to so that when they turn their backs on you you'll get the chance to put the knife in. :mad:

Muger, you gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder. You know, it's starting to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older. Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south and hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man all alone and dying of envy.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and you lose to Rafole and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around!!! :mad: So have a good drown, Muger, as you go down all alone, DRAGGED down by Rafole !!!


:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship::wors hip:

EliSter
05-30-2012, 09:09 PM
Muger, you got to be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes and when you're on the ATP Council you've got to be able to pick out the cupcake draws with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, you've got to lie when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style; like the man's purse, and the dull all-serve game and a certain look in the eye and the phony smile. You have to be trusted by the Fedtards that you lie to so that when they turn their backs on you you'll get the chance to put the knife in. :mad:

Muger, you gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder. You know, it's starting to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older. Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south and hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man all alone and dying of envy.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and you lose to Rafole and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around!!! :mad: So have a good drown, Muger, as you go down all alone, DRAGGED down by Rafole !!!

U never fail to deliver :bowdown:

PiggyGotRoasted
05-30-2012, 09:10 PM
Harder than nadals

Li Ching Yuen
05-30-2012, 09:18 PM
Tougher than nails.

reery
05-30-2012, 09:30 PM
It's ok.

It will be really yummy after that, specially in the final:

Federer defeats Ferrer in 3.:wavey:

Mountaindewslave
05-30-2012, 10:58 PM
Kamke - Hard first rnd opponent for sure, up and coming. Not a nightmare first round opponent for Federer, there could have been worst draws, but drawing Kamke first round will make any veteran upset.

Ungur - Claycourt specialist who in the first round just defeated the most talented player to ever pick up a racquet (next to Donald Young). On hardcourt perhaps this would be a easy matchup, but in RG meeting Ungur before the 4th rnd/QF is just a flat out tough draw.

Mahut - In the form of his life routining former grand champion and world #1. On top of that he is a frenchman so he has the crowd behind him. Very possible if Mahut beats Federer he could be playing on the final Sunday of Roland Garros. With the way Mahut is playing, meeting him before the QF is harsh.

Kubot/Goffin/Clement - All three will be tough 4R opponents. Kubot a veteran who does notoriously well in slams. Goffin up and coming star, not someone who you want to face in 4R. Clement, he has played on the final Sunday of a slam before, so meeting Clement before the QF or perhaps even the SF is not easy. Yes, Clement has aged, but he knows how to win the big matches in the big grand slams. Nightmare opponent.

Is this the hardest draw I've ever seen? No, but it sure is pretty damn close.

difficult at sensing sarcasm or not??................ :o

oh you were definitely being sarcastic now after re-read, awesome :)

2003
05-30-2012, 10:59 PM
Muger, you got to be crazy, you gotta have a real need. You gotta sleep on your toes and when you're on the ATP Council you've got to be able to pick out the cupcake draws with your eyes closed. And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight, you've got to lie when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style; like the man's purse, and the dull all-serve game and a certain look in the eye and the phony smile. You have to be trusted by the Fedtards that you lie to so that when they turn their backs on you you'll get the chance to put the knife in. :mad:

Muger, you gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder. You know, it's starting to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older. Yeah, and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south and hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man all alone and dying of envy.

And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and you lose to Rafole and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around!!! :mad: So have a good drown, Muger, as you go down all alone, DRAGGED down by Rafole !!!

Animals really is an under rated album

viruzzz
05-30-2012, 11:02 PM
Easy until QF.
Then, the worst.

All big 4 should reach QF easily... Then, Federer is in danger. On clay: Berdych > Simon + Tsonga + Tipsarevic + Almagro.

rocketassist
05-30-2012, 11:13 PM
Almugro is the easiest QF by default as he will bend for his idol.

Say what you like about Murray but he'd be a far tougher opponent for Rafito in the SF than either him or Ferrer. Last year's SF he played well but couldn't convert a catalogue of break points that would have made it a close affair.

Certinfy
05-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Totally agreed about Murray being the hardest SF for Nadal. Like you said last year he played well but didn't play well on the big points, I also remember the serve being on and off at times during that match which cost him too. He can hurt Nadal on clay regardless of what anyone here says, Ferrer/Gasquet etc. can't!

Looner
05-30-2012, 11:40 PM
A healthy Murray in good form. Here we have a Murray in crap form with a possible back injury. Yup, hard indeed.

Mark Lenders
05-30-2012, 11:55 PM
No 'version' of Murray will beat Nadal on clay. He has no weapons to hit through Nadal and he sure as well is not outlasting/outgrinding Nadal on clay. Simply won't happen.

Considering Almagro's mentality, there's only one guy who could take Rafa out/make him work: Isner. And that'd depend on a lot of factors, most of all him getting to Rafa and serving at his best. In all likelihood, we'll see Rafa in the final. Few players can trouble him on this surface and none are in his half.

rocketassist
05-31-2012, 01:19 AM
No 'version' of Murray will beat Nadal on clay. He has no weapons to hit through Nadal and he sure as well is not outlasting/outgrinding Nadal on clay. Simply won't happen.

Considering Almagro's mentality, there's only one guy who could take Rafa out/make him work: Isner. And that'd depend on a lot of factors, most of all him getting to Rafa and serving at his best. In all likelihood, we'll see Rafa in the final. Few players can trouble him on this surface and none are in his half.

He probably wouldn't have beaten him but if he'd converted a few of his BPs last year then he'd have bagged a set/two or at least pushed Nadal a few hours out there.

Topspindoctor
05-31-2012, 01:20 AM
Absolute Nightmare. Puts those Hewitt and Roddick slam finals to shame :(:(

duchuy89
05-31-2012, 02:42 AM
I think Nadal will win.

r2473
05-31-2012, 04:36 AM
Kamke - Hard first rnd opponent for sure, up and coming. Not a nightmare first round opponent for Federer, there could have been worst draws, but drawing Kamke first round will make any veteran upset.

Ungur - Claycourt specialist who in the first round just defeated the most talented player to ever pick up a racquet (next to Donald Young). On hardcourt perhaps this would be a easy matchup, but in RG meeting Ungur before the 4th rnd/QF is just a flat out tough draw.

Mahut - In the form of his life routining former grand champion and world #1. On top of that he is a frenchman so he has the crowd behind him. Very possible if Mahut beats Federer he could be playing on the final Sunday of Roland Garros. With the way Mahut is playing, meeting him before the QF is harsh.

Kubot/Goffin/Clement - All three will be tough 4R opponents. Kubot a veteran who does notoriously well in slams. Goffin up and coming star, not someone who you want to face in 4R. Clement, he has played on the final Sunday of a slam before, so meeting Clement before the QF or perhaps even the SF is not easy. Yes, Clement has aged, but he knows how to win the big matches in the big grand slams. Nightmare opponent.

Is this the hardest draw I've ever seen? No, but it sure is pretty damn close.

This is pretty funny.

BroTree123
05-31-2012, 05:09 AM
Really, really tough.

MIMIC
05-31-2012, 08:27 AM
Dunno if this is a serious thread or not, but he won't face a single seed until the QF (and that's when it gets harder for EVERYONE)

heya
05-31-2012, 08:52 AM
according to fed pigeon number 1 roddick, french open 2009 made federer the greatest ever.

JanKowalski
05-31-2012, 10:12 AM
First 4 rounds are easy, but it doesn't matter that much, because there is no player from outside the top8, that can beat him in a slam. It's good though that he won't be tired, when he reaches the QF (no Simon like in AO 2011).

From the QF it's the hardest draw possible though.

Ben.
05-31-2012, 10:59 AM
His draw is a paradox. It is staggering such a draw can occur in this weak era.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2012, 07:05 PM
Totally agreed about Murray being the hardest SF for Nadal. Like you said last year he played well but didn't play well on the big points, I also remember the serve being on and off at times during that match which cost him too. He can hurt Nadal on clay regardless of what anyone here says, Ferrer/Gasquet etc. can't!stop the crack

just say No.

Corey Feldman
06-01-2012, 07:06 PM
according to fed pigeon number 1 roddick, french open 2009 made federer the greatest ever.well first sensible thing that clown's ever said

when will you break your duck?

Certinfy
06-01-2012, 07:08 PM
stop the crack

just say No.
If you offer to pay for the help required I will. :awww:

GSMnadal
06-01-2012, 07:09 PM
I would rate it between a 9/10 and 9,5/10

156mphserve
06-01-2012, 07:09 PM
I voted for all the answers because I can :)

Gillezzz
06-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Quite an easy draw. Nothing, nothing difficult at all up to Berdie/Delpo. And even they are not too tough for him, really good match-ups. So he got lucky with that kind of draw.

masterclass
06-01-2012, 10:48 PM
The toughest part of his draw might be getting a withdrawal in the quarters before having to face Mr. Djokovic in the semifinal. :shrug:

Respectfully,
masterclass

tektonac
06-01-2012, 10:51 PM
one of the hardest ever in the history of modern tennis (and before).

Looner
06-01-2012, 10:51 PM
The toughest part of his draw might be getting a withdrawal in the quarters before having to face Mr. Djokovic in the semifinal. :shrug:

Respectfully,
masterclass

True, Mr masterclass. Byes have been known to be tricky opponents as they substantially hinder one's chances further down in the tournament. See Novak Djokovic in the 2011 RG for example ;).

Sunset of Age
06-01-2012, 10:55 PM
Is it soooo hard to realize that for none of the top 1-4,5,6, any a GS tournament only starts of for them in the second week?
Early rounds are just walk-overs to any fav top-4 (or top5, 6 whatever). It's been that way for years, if not decades by now, why the 'surprise'?

masterclass
06-01-2012, 11:07 PM
True, Mr masterclass. Byes have been known to be tricky opponent as they substantially hinder one's chances further down in the tournament. See Novak Djokovic in the 2011 RG for example ;).

Very tricky... But at least Mr. Federer would have the opportunity to be with his daughters more during the break. :cool:
"You see, as king, you must find the good in any situation." - Braveheart ;) :cool:

Respectfully,
masterclass

MIMIC
06-02-2012, 12:44 AM
The toughest part of his draw might be getting a withdrawal in the quarters before having to face Mr. Djokovic in the semifinal. :shrug:

Respectfully,
masterclass

True, Mr masterclass. Byes have been known to be tricky opponents as they substantially hinder one's chances further down in the tournament. See Novak Djokovic in the 2011 RG for example ;).

Very tricky... But at least Mr. Federer would have the opportunity to be with his daughters more during the break. :cool:
"You see, as king, you must find the good in any situation." - Braveheart ;) :cool:

Respectfully,
masterclass

You two having fun?

Nole fan
06-02-2012, 02:03 AM
Looner trying to infuse some humour in his posts. Fail. :facepalm:

leng jai
06-02-2012, 02:14 AM
Looner trying to infuse some humour in his posts. Fail. :facepalm:

He's been reading my posts too much :facepalm:

heya
06-02-2012, 02:39 AM
fedtards & anti-djokovic tards were afraid of a mahut win.
after all, the victim of mahut in the 1st match begged for federer love in miami.

fedtards say they love fed & nadal, but they hate, hate, hate just like fed does.... heehee actions speak louder.

leng jai
06-02-2012, 02:43 AM
Why are you such a mega babe heya?

rocketassist
06-02-2012, 02:45 AM
I definitely would. I think she'd be uncontrollable in the sack. I'd be worried for my sack if I got on her bad side though.

Mr. Oracle
06-03-2012, 05:56 AM
Why are you such a mega babe heya?

Pics please, and why not?

evilmindbulgaria
06-03-2012, 07:02 AM
Looner trying to infuse some humour in his posts. Fail. :facepalm:

Looner fails at anything he attempts on MTF :cool:

Mr. Oracle
06-04-2012, 02:50 AM
Looner trying to infuse some humour in his posts. Fail. :facepalm:

He's a brit, cut him some slack !!
:haha::rain:

Clay Death
06-04-2012, 02:56 AM
its just the right draw.

fed vs d-pot showdown could be on which is just the right preparation moving forward.

somebody is going to get killed by Fed in the semis.

FedvsNole
06-04-2012, 03:00 AM
If fed manages to get by berd/delpo and nole get through tsonga/wawa they should theoretically be playing the first early semi on Friday and nadal should be playing the second semi right?

Im just asking bc im in the process of moving and won't be able to watch the second semi and hope they don't switch everything and make the nole-fed match if fed gets there surprisingly the second semifinal which is not how it works but i feel since nbc broadcasts the later final in the united states that somehow that is when that final will get aired. I guess they could always tape delay air it right? But then why did they switch the order last year?


Thanks to all the knowledgeable on here.

Chirag
06-04-2012, 03:23 AM
its just the right draw.

fed vs d-pot showdown could be on which is just the right preparation moving forward.

somebody is going to get killed by Fed in the semis.

you mean somebody is gonna kill Fed in the semis :o

Chirag
06-04-2012, 03:25 AM
If fed manages to get by berd/delpo and nole get through tsonga/wawa they should theoretically be playing the first early semi on Friday and nadal should be playing the second semi right?

Im just asking bc im in the process of moving and won't be able to watch the second semi and hope they don't switch everything and make the nole-fed match if fed gets there surprisingly the second semifinal which is not how it works but i feel since nbc broadcasts the later final in the united states that somehow that is when that final will get aired. I guess they could always tape delay air it right? But then why did they switch the order last year?


Thanks to all the knowledgeable on here.

its based on popularity of the names only ,there is no idea which will be the first or second semi right now :) But Federer-Djokovic will be more popular than Nadal-Ferrer and the former should be the second semi

tripwires
06-04-2012, 03:28 AM
you mean somebody is gonna kill Fed in the semis :o

Way to have faith.

Chirag
06-04-2012, 03:31 AM
Way to have faith.

I have faith during the match not before that :o

dencod16
06-04-2012, 05:03 AM
LOL.. Most stupid thread here... Fed fans admit it he sucked so far, being pushed by easy opponents. For everyone sakes he should improve and play better. Cause he is playing to the level of his opponents.

duchuy89
06-04-2012, 05:48 AM
Difficult.