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Will Ancic ever win a grand slam???

coria-fan04
10-28-2004, 08:19 PM
Everyone knows that Mario has an incredible amount of talent.He showed it at Wimbledon against Tim Henman and Roger Federer in the past that he can beat the best players when under pressure.I have him marked down as a future Wimbledon champion certainly.I think Mario will make the top 10 within 2 years if he remains comitted

Purple Rainbow
10-28-2004, 08:20 PM
If he is going to win a Slam it will be Wimbledon. But that won't happen anytime soon. I'd say that he should first just win an ATP title, something he still hasn't achieved.

Roger-No.1
10-28-2004, 08:56 PM
Definitely Purple Rainbow. First, ATP title, then Grand Slam. And Wimbledon is the best bet right now

Bilbo
10-28-2004, 08:58 PM
of course not

bad gambler
10-28-2004, 08:59 PM
simple answer to the thread question is...no

RaVeR
10-28-2004, 09:00 PM
of course not

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Bilbo
10-28-2004, 09:31 PM
2 professional gamblers who know everything about tennis say 'no', what more do you want Bl@de???

Crazy_Fool
10-28-2004, 09:33 PM
yeah i think he'll win wimbledon like his fellow croat, but i doubt he will win multiple slams or anything.

roisin
10-28-2004, 10:15 PM
yeah i dont reckon he'll win a heap of them. wimby maybe. he's definitely got the potential.

Horatio Caine
10-28-2004, 10:22 PM
If he wins one it will be a one - off when the draw is quite open - see Thomas Johansson in Aus 2002 or if he plays like a madman for 2 weeks (Gaudio and Costa). However, most probably he won't win one. As Roger - No.1 says, he has to win an ATP title first and he has only been in 1 final so far. Still, not as bad as poor Xavier!

Havok
10-28-2004, 10:24 PM
If he can't even win a singles title, let alone a TMS title, how on earth will he win a Slam?

Neely
10-28-2004, 10:27 PM
2 professional gamblers who know everything about tennis say 'no', what more do you want Bl@de???
If I had to vote and decide between "yes" or "no", I would also vote for "no", but I couldn't be so sure like you. Your "professional gamblers" reasoning doesn't work here as gambling means nothing here and this is an enormous long time what we are talking about.

Did you predict Grand Slam wins for Gaudio, Johansson or Roddick a few years ago?

We are not talking about "who wins tomorrow?" or "who wins this week?", we are talking about several years in this case which can include several windfalls of all kind.

roisin
10-28-2004, 10:27 PM
in time, in time. i think he's been getting some crappy draws of late.

Bilbo
10-28-2004, 10:41 PM
You know better than that, Neely. You will remember my words in 10 years.

Neely
10-28-2004, 10:49 PM
You know better than that, Neely. You will remember my words in 10 years.
With my vote, I am on your side, mate.
But I don't tend to ignore the chances of the Gaudios and Johanssons for that most of all people probably would have never predicted a Grand Slam win a few years ago either.

Satanic Pasteur
10-28-2004, 10:51 PM
Don't forget he's still young, as a very offensive player his game takes longer to mature than some players his age...
He as potential for sure but he has to improve his mental and fitness first.

LiZpHaIr
10-28-2004, 11:38 PM
Hes still young, he's got time to win a slam.

BaselineSmash
10-28-2004, 11:40 PM
Ancic has all the goods when it comes to pure shotmaking, namely his drop volleys, which I think are the best in the game at the moment. He is a powerhouse player with good mobility, and is talented and able in both the forecourt and backcourt. Here comes the "but"...injuries notwithstanding, his results of late reflect a certain immaturity and I think he has effectively given himself a holiday since bagging a small pot of gold during the Superset tennis event in London. He needs to be more motivated week to week.

As for winning a slam, I think the odds are in his favour, and Wimbledon will probably be won by him at some stage. I think whether or not he has even won a small title isn't as important as some are making out. Gaudio had only won two lower tier ATP events before taking RG. And Ancic displayed little if any indications of mental fragility during Wimbledon this year, and was only one match (one in which he pushed Roddick to the limit) away from the final. That is the only evidence I need to know that he can do it, and whether he or not takes a more minor tournament beforehand needn't necessarily be factored in that significantly. He seems to already have sufficient belief in himself, which the Wimbledon fortnight amply proved.

Havok
10-28-2004, 11:41 PM
How young is he anyways?

LiZpHaIr
10-28-2004, 11:46 PM
How young is he anyways?


19? I think....

Roger-No.1
10-28-2004, 11:47 PM
No Signature - I'm in mourning after Yankees committ the greatest choke in baseball history

bad gambler.... :sad:

Next year will be better.

for-sure
10-29-2004, 12:30 AM
I wonder what people would have said in 2000 had the same question been asked about Guodio, Costa and Johansson (spelling?? LOL)

Roger-No.1
10-29-2004, 12:50 AM
I don't tend to ignore the chances of the Gaudios and Johanssons for that most of all people probably would have never predicted a Grand Slam win a few years ago either.
For some of those Johanssons and Gaudios, How can "most of all people" probably predict a Grand Slam win if the actual question is never made: Will they win?

It's easier talking about how people "tend to ignore the chances of the Gaudios" now, when everyone knows he won.

There are a lot of possible surprise winners, but only one prevails in thousands. That's where gamblers take their chances. :)

I wonder what people would have said in 2000 had the same question been asked about Guodio, Costa and Johansson (spelling?? LOL)
YES/NO/DEPENDS

The debate never ends.

Bilbo
10-29-2004, 01:09 AM
I wonder what people would have said in 2000 had the same question been asked about Guodio, Costa and Johansson (spelling?? LOL)

In 2000 Gaudio was on of the best 3 claycourters and Costa a veteran on clay too. So obviously it was predictable.

Roger-No.1
10-29-2004, 01:19 AM
In 2000 Gaudio was on of the best 3 claycourters and Costa a veteran on clay too. So obviously it was predictable.

Yeah,

bad gambler should know, What were the odds in 2004, bg?

Mario is considered a Wimbledon favorite. If Roger & Co. lose, he could win

But if Roger & Co. keep winning, he'll have to wait a la Goran Ivanisevic.

Mario could win an ATP title first. It's not a requirement, but it improves his odds (more confidence in his game, etc).

It's all a game of probabilities.

Fedex
10-29-2004, 01:41 AM
If he can't even win a singles title, let alone a TMS title, how on earth will he win a Slam?
Well you could give him some time to win a title, you know.

WyveN
10-29-2004, 04:41 AM
I think Ancic will win Wimbledon one day, so much potential there.

MisterQ
10-29-2004, 05:10 AM
Will probably be good enough to contend for a slam, but he's not a shoo-in either.

Yonge
10-29-2004, 05:22 AM
I don't think anyone would be surprised if he wins Wimbledon. He's got the talent.

Action Jackson
10-29-2004, 07:50 AM
In 2000 Gaudio was on of the best 3 claycourters and Costa a veteran on clay too. So obviously it was predictable.

Bilbo profession gambler who claims to know everything, there is one big mistake you have made in the post above. I know you haven't spotted it, and since you claim to know everything I am sad you missed it.

Gaudio was not in the top 3 of claycourters in 2000. Why? Very simply he was playing qualies in 99 and make only semi final in the year of 2000, that doesn't qualify as one of the best in that year.

The year was 2002 and not 2000 a major difference, where he won Barcelona and Mallorca in succession and made the 4th round of RG.

For someone who knows everything, you shouldn't overlook those details.

Action Jackson
10-29-2004, 07:51 AM
Ancic has the ability and potential to win a Slam, he just needs some more time to develop and if he wins one it will more than likely be at Wimbledon.

Lee
10-29-2004, 07:54 AM
If he can't even win a singles title, let alone a TMS title, how on earth will he win a Slam?

Guga won RG in 1997 without any single title under his belt :p

I'm not saying Ancic has/has not a talent like Guga. :)

Black Adam
10-29-2004, 08:09 AM
ancic will a tournament like queens or halle in his carreer but will probably have to wait towards the end of his carreer to win wimby

coriafan01
10-29-2004, 08:31 AM
yes

Aleksa's Laydee
10-29-2004, 10:09 AM
If he is going to win a Slam it will be Wimbledon. But that won't happen anytime soon. I'd say that he should first just win an ATP title, something he still hasn't achieved.

Give him to or three years and the wimbledon crown will be his :D :worship:

RaVeR
10-29-2004, 10:18 AM
i hope so Bjorkfish!

Space Cowgirl
10-29-2004, 11:09 AM
Bilbo profession gambler who claims to know everything, there is one big mistake you have made in the post above. I know you haven't spotted it, and since you claim to know everything I am sad you missed it.

Gaudio was not in the top 3 of claycourters in 2000. Why? Very simply he was playing qualies in 99 and make only semi final in the year of 2000, that doesn't qualify as one of the best in that year.

The year was 2002 and not 2000 a major difference, where he won Barcelona and Mallorca in succession and made the 4th round of RG.

For someone who knows everything, you shouldn't overlook those details.


George: :worship:
:D
Bilbo probably lost a bet on Mario and hasn't liked him ever since ;)

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-29-2004, 11:15 AM
bilbo, you don't love the game of tennis, you like the money making aspect of it, and I remember your great Lleyton Hewitt is going to thrash Federer at the US Open comment.

Next time you proclaim something, try getting the facts correct, it adds more credibility.

Back to the topic I would love to see Ancic win a Slam, and he has the tools to do so, the next 2 years are very important for his development and 2005/2006 he needs to win a big event and make a permanent statement.

Daniel
10-29-2004, 11:22 AM
No he wont

pepsipin
10-29-2004, 11:32 AM
How young is he anyways?
He's 20 and his birthday is in march i think.
I think he can do it!! :bowdown:

jrm
10-29-2004, 12:57 PM
No, i don't see it happening ...

Roger-No.1
10-29-2004, 04:44 PM
If he wins one it will be a one - off when the draw is quite open - see Thomas Johansson in Aus 2002 or if he plays like a madman for 2 weeks (Gaudio and Costa). However, most probably he won't win one.

The Naked Truth

croat123
10-29-2004, 10:08 PM
he's only 20...he's got over 10 years left to play...ajmo mario!! he just needs to get his head straight.

RonE
10-29-2004, 11:40 PM
He may possibly, but I only see him doing so at Wimbledon.

I think he might be a Richard Krajicek or Goran Ivanisevic type of Wimbledon champion i.e. will win it once but probably not more. I base this solely on what I have seen from him thus far, although if he continues to develop his game and gets his head together he may very well prove me wrong and exceed that.

I definitely think he has good tools- talent, power and athleticism. He just needs to combine them and back it up with a strong mind.

alex.2812
10-30-2004, 07:10 AM
he can win but he has to improve his game!