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The Novak Slam: Can he do it?

Nole fan
05-26-2012, 07:46 PM
I believe this is Djokovic's moment. I have faith in him. He's been preparing for this all season. The Novak Slam. Federer and Nadal failed before him, but who says he can't do it? Surely, it's one of the most difficult things to achieve in tennis and that's why a victory here in RG would cement Novak's status as legendary. Do you think he will be able to match Laver's career achievement? I do. :cool:


CHASING LAVER
DEUCE (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/DEUCE-Tennis/DEUCE-Roland-Garros-Wimbledon-2012/Novak-Djokovic.aspx)
by Jason Goodall | 24.05.2012


Following his triumphs at Wimbledon, the US Open and Australian Open, Novak Djokovic will look to write himself into history books with victory at Roland Garros.
Will Novak Djokovic succeed where Pete Sampras, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal all fell just short? The World No. 1 goes into Roland Garros aiming to become the first man to hold all four major titles since the great Rod Laver in 1969.

While Novak Djokovic managed to get his hands on the trophy at the Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships in early 2010, the quality of his tennis at times left a lot to be desired. His serving in particular was woeful; the Serb delivered 10 double faults in the semi-finals and 12 more in the final before eventually prevailing.

When I asked him earlier that week why he was attempting to make wholesale changes to his serve at such a relatively late stage in his career, he said that if there was even the slightest chance of an improvement, then the risk was worth taking. Though his resolve must have been severely tested by week’s end with each miscued serve, he joked after the final, “If I can serve like this and still win tournaments, just wait until I start serving well.”

“Djokovic has an opportunity to elevate himself to an even higher plane”

Patience is a virtue and a little over two years later, Djokovic now stands on the brink of becoming the first player in 42 years to hold all four Grand Slam titles at one time. Incredibly, the serve is now a major weapon and arguably his most improved shot. And although the technical changes he tried a couple of years ago ultimately didn’t work out and he eventually returned to his original service motion, he is now being rewarded for his pursuit of excellence and also for his seismic shift in attitude. He has gone from being a player who didn’t want to lose, who relied upon mistakes from opponents to grind out victories, to a player who is now prepared to control his own destiny. His new mantra is obvious: to be the best you have to be able to beat the best.

“In big matches the winner is decided by small margins, a couple of points,” said Djokovic after his 2011 US Open triumph. “The last couple of years I guess it’s just clicked in my head - I’m going for it more. I’m more aggressive.”

But that isn’t the only enhancement he has made to his overall game, many experts believe. “The improvements in his serve - getting back to his old action - have been well documented and that has made a major difference,” former US Open semi-finalist Darren Cahill tells DEUCE.

“Most of his other improvement has centered around that fact that physically he now knows that he can go the distance against anyone. He used to struggle with his breathing, the heat, and with the belief he could stay in long points without it hurting his chances of winning. Now that he’s overcome those issues his shot selection is more controlled. He’s not looking to finish points too quickly from poor positions in the court, his defensive game has improved and he’s finding parts of the court that were eluding him before because he’s playing with better court position and more spin off the forehand.

“His backhand has always been world class. Probably the most important thing he’s improved, though, is his mental strength and belief against [Roger] Federer and [Rafael] Nadal.”

And he’s going to need that in spades. Nadal is aiming for a seventh crown at Roland Garros, which would eclipse Bjorn Borg’s record haul from the ‘70s and early ‘80s when he was the doyen of the dirt. The Spaniard has the best career winning percentage of any player in the Open Era on his favourite surface, winning just over 93 per cent of his matches - a statistic that rises to over 96 per cent if you only take into account the opponents he has encountered since 2005. He has only suffered one defeat at the French Open since making his debut in that very same season, when Robin Soderling got the better of him in 2009.

“For so long it seemed a near impossible task”
“The toughest opponent on clay is Nadal, there’s no question about it,” Djokovic insists. “Physically he’s the strongest player on the tour and clay demands the most physical effort from the players out of all the surfaces. Your endurance has to be on a very high level, because all the long rallies that you play on hard courts, it’s double that on clay. Mentally he has this incredible ability to stay focused from the first point to the last.”

However, Djokovic can take heart from the fact that he was able to snap Nadal’s 37-match clay court winning streak in Madrid last spring, and then backed that up by beating him again the following week in Rome, a feat that had hitherto been regarded as virtually impossible. Adding to the intrigue of a possible dream final showdown between Djokovic and Nadal at Roland Garros are the Spaniard's two victories over Djokovic in ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals this clay-court season in Monte-Carlo and Rome, the first of which snapped Djokovic's seven-match winning streak against Rafa.

And Djokovic will surely appreciate that Roland Garros has previously been the battleground for similar highly significant exploits.

“When I won the Grand Slam it changed my career and my life,” Andre Agassi said in 2009, looking back on that famous final against Andrei Medvedev. “It was the most profound moment, having to overcome all of the self-doubt and all of the obstacles it takes to win [in Paris]. It’s something that I’m so proud of because every surface, and all the different conditions, demand so much of you mentally and physically. To win on all four surfaces in your career is one of the greatest achievements in sport.”

And Cahill, who coached Agassi, concurs. “Andre was the first player in quite some time to achieve that feat so it certainly was a special moment. Considering that was the event that looked like being his first major win, and to then suffer the disappointment of losing it again and again, meant he’d been through everything emotionally before finally winning.

“It also was a point of separation from his peers through the generations that he’d competed against. His journey through life and sport has always been fascinating but he would tell you that the moment [Andrei] Medvedev missed that final forehand was the most special moment of his career. The sense of relief after all the years of trying, getting so close, and then finally succeeding was every emotion wrapped up into one glorious day.”

A career Grand Slam is undoubtedly an accomplishment worthy of greatness, but nobody since the legendary Rod Laver in 1969 has been able to hold all four titles at the same time, so Djokovic has an opportunity to elevate himself to an even higher plane than his illustrious peers and in doing so create a legacy that will live on forever. And if he is successful, the fact that he’s been able to do it while competing against some of the greatest competitors ever to assemble at the same time speaks volumes.

“You have to be a complete player to win all four majors,” explains Cahill. “It says a lot about our current generation that Federer and Nadal have done it, and now possibly Djokovic will do it too. For so long it seemed a near impossible task and then in the space of a few years these three players have taken the game to a whole new level. They have no weaknesses, they can win on any surface, they thrive on new challenges and they are making the next generation of player better by the standard they are setting.”

“I’ve been dreaming of that moment and I still have a lot to prove to myself”
So history beckons for Serbia’s favourite son, but his legion of fans will be well aware that other truly outstanding players have also had the opportunity to seize the moment and achieve true greatness only to then fail when destiny came calling.

Federer and Nadal have both held three major titles at the same time, but they were both unable to win their fourth in succession. Nadal was beaten at the Australian Open in 2011 by David Ferrer, and Federer was twice denied by losses to Nadal in the 2006 and 2007 Roland Garros finals. Pete Sampras also held three majors going into the French Open in 1994, only to be beaten in the quarter-finals by Jim Courier.

But Nole remains undaunted.

“Of course I want to win more majors and it would be unbelievable to complete the Grand Slam,” he says. “I’ve been dreaming of that moment and I still have a lot to prove to myself.

“Everything is possible.”

viruzzz
05-26-2012, 07:48 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/14c4ol0.png

Sorry Nole Fan, i'mma let you finish.
Your post is amazing. But that slam is called the "Serena Slam", she named it first.
And she made one of the best videos of all time!

Yeah!


EDIT:

I was refering to this video:
6KxG9stU3J4

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 07:48 PM
he will fail, hope he does

he had his moment in 2011

but now, without the illegal egg pod, he's normal again.

RIboy
05-26-2012, 07:52 PM
don't care as long as he makes the final...

BauerAlmeida
05-26-2012, 07:55 PM
I think he will.

guga2120
05-26-2012, 07:56 PM
Yes he can do it. The only player I see beating him is Rafa. If he did do it and then went on to win wimbldeon as well, his place in tennis history would hugely elevated.

Nole fan
05-26-2012, 07:56 PM
don't care as long as he makes the final...

Why?

RIboy
05-26-2012, 07:59 PM
Why?

some arrogant dude is in his half of draw...:secret:

MIMIC
05-26-2012, 08:00 PM
Hopefully.

I'm less sure he will now, though. But I still give him the 2nd best chance. But if he doesn't at least make the final, I might cut myself :mad:

Fireballer
05-26-2012, 08:07 PM
Unless he ups his game he wont beat Nadal...right now he will beat anyone not named Nadal but Rafa is a beast.Novak is still better than him on hard but clay is his kingdom

tektonac
05-26-2012, 08:07 PM
this prospect has a potential to crush federer.

DrJules
05-26-2012, 08:08 PM
Picking answer 2 which should be the clear winner of this poll.

Djokovic is rightly very much second favourite to win in Roland Garros and I expect Nadal to beat him in 3/4 sets in the final.

superslam77
05-26-2012, 08:08 PM
some arrogant dude is in his half of draw...:secret:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YkwWstWNnoU/R0_4e1p-9vI/AAAAAAAAAJs/RqBuhstE-KA/s320/20070826-nadal_reuters%5B1%5D.jpg

the arrogant dude is on the other side of the draw :wavey:

comesbackatlast
05-26-2012, 08:09 PM
some arrogant dude is in his half of draw...:secret:

Why do you have so much hatred, but still call others tards when they show even less degrees of it?

I'm seriously curious.

Mark Lenders
05-26-2012, 08:11 PM
Of course he can. The question is: will he?

Rafa, Federer and some other potential spoilers won't just hand it to him. But he definitely has a very good chance to do it.

If it comes down to the top 3, I'll definitely be rooting for him, would be amazing to see Novak being the first man since Rod Laver to hold all 4 Slams.

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 08:16 PM
negative.





next.

nole_no1
05-26-2012, 08:16 PM
Simon Reed is trying to help him that's for sure

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 08:17 PM
imagine if Fed beat him again and wagged the finger

RIboy
05-26-2012, 08:18 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YkwWstWNnoU/R0_4e1p-9vI/AAAAAAAAAJs/RqBuhstE-KA/s320/20070826-nadal_reuters%5B1%5D.jpg

the arrogant dude is on the other side of the draw :wavey:

i don't give a shit about Nadal, unless he plays against cow milker...:wavey:

comesbackatlast
05-26-2012, 08:19 PM
imagine if Fed beat him again and wagged the finger

If he does, I don't think he will. At least not the same way.

If he does.

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 08:19 PM
i detect excessive and irrational exuberance here.

rg is off limits djokeeeeeeeesians.

better just dream about the hard courts.

PedroMarquess
05-26-2012, 08:23 PM
He can, it will be hard, but very possible. If Nole or Nadal win RG, then 1st and 2nd will finally have as many slams as 3rd and 4th x)

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 08:23 PM
if he wins the title without beating Fed it has an * next to the trophy

TigerTim
05-26-2012, 08:28 PM
no.

PedroMarquess
05-26-2012, 08:29 PM
if he wins the title without beating Fed it has an * next to the trophy

No, in 2009 Federer's didn't had anything :rolleyes:

TigerTim
05-26-2012, 08:29 PM
if he wins the title without beating Fed it has an * next to the trophy

like Fed has next to is 2009 RG and Wimbledon crowns?

Federer in 2
05-26-2012, 08:29 PM
http://southafricametro.com/wp-content/uploads/Federer_and_Nadal_HILARIOUS_spot_Cincinnati_2010.j pg
http://themeatlockersports.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/federer-nadal-laughing-commercial.jpg

No Nole Slams here. Not today.
Maybe some other stuff, though. :yeah:

tektonac
05-26-2012, 08:30 PM
i think this time around mikey will be supporting nadal :haha:

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 08:31 PM
i think this time around mikey will be supporting nadal :haha:Yep

Nole fan
05-26-2012, 08:37 PM
Yep

You still cryin' because my boy beated Fed again? :lol:

comesbackatlast
05-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Yep

Federer is not out yet, you know.

RIboy
05-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Why do you have so much hatred, but still call others tards when they show even less degrees of it?

I'm seriously curious.

wouldn't say that in that way, Rogie is my 2nd favorite player...everyone else are tied for first :wavey:

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 08:40 PM
if Fed never done it, Djoko is not winning his NoleSlam

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/08/nadal_skit_244x183.png

guga2120
05-26-2012, 08:42 PM
negative.





next.

Well I guess that settles it. Didn't you also say federer would beat Novak in Rome in straight sets?

Corey Feldman
05-26-2012, 08:43 PM
You still cryin' because my boy beated Fed again? :lol:I'm rabid after your non stop finger wag accusations about the GOAT

BORO77
05-26-2012, 08:44 PM
Of course he can win, if Rafa:worship: would retire from RG Nole is one of the favs..

PedroMarquess
05-26-2012, 08:45 PM
if Fed never done it, Djoko is not winning his NoleSlam

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/08/nadal_skit_244x183.png

Fed fans whishing Nadal to win ? World is really ending this year.:)

Looner
05-26-2012, 08:52 PM
No.

comesbackatlast
05-26-2012, 08:55 PM
wouldn't say that in that way, Rogie is my 2nd favorite player...everyone else are tied for first :wavey:

:rolleyes:

Fireballer
05-26-2012, 09:01 PM
No.

mirror mirror on the wall who is the most bitter of us all.....

bokehlicious
05-26-2012, 09:03 PM
bamos rafa!!!! :rocker2:

ServeVolley
05-26-2012, 09:04 PM
"No, he won't even make it to semis" ;)

superslam77
05-26-2012, 09:06 PM
mirror mirror on the wall who is the most bitter of us all.....

the samprass tard :lol:

Looner
05-26-2012, 09:16 PM
mirror mirror on the wall who is the most bitter of us all.....

Have you become my personal fangirl or something? I am not into tards.

MIMIC
05-26-2012, 09:40 PM
if Fed never done it, Djoko is not winning his NoleSlam

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/08/nadal_skit_244x183.png

If Fed can't beat Nadal in 3 or more slams, then neither can Novak :yeah:

derp

Where do you guys come up with this asinine logic :shrug:

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 10:00 PM
this is nothing but endless reckless, suboptimal ejaculation of the highest order here at thje moment. i will settle this.

nole is not not going to see the final.

end of story.

Federer in 2
05-26-2012, 10:02 PM
this is nothing but endless reckless, suboptimal ejaculation of the highest order.

nole is not not going to see the final.

end of story.

He might. He has an OK chance of beating Fed in SF, and a good chance if it's Berdych/Delpo for example.
He is not beating Nadal after that, though.

reery
05-26-2012, 10:05 PM
Yes, he will win the Novak Slam and become a legend.

WhoCares
05-26-2012, 10:05 PM
He can... not.

rinnegan
05-26-2012, 10:07 PM
He can and he will.

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 10:07 PM
He might. He has an OK chance of beating Fed in SF, and a good chance if it's Berdych/Delpo for example.
He is not beating Nadal after that, though.


i am not seeing it mate.

fed is significantly better this year than last year and nole has a bit of a confidence crisis that will work against him at RG.

dont worry about what happened in rome. fed was tired and he wanted out of rome.

shanks
05-26-2012, 10:12 PM
Wishful thinking

Mountaindewslave
05-26-2012, 10:15 PM
lol how is he winning the poll right now, there is no way he wins this title

reery
05-26-2012, 10:15 PM
If he did do it and then went on to win wimbldeon as well, his place in tennis history would hugely elevated.

And if after winning FO and Wimbledon he wins the USO, his place in tennis history would super duper hugely elevated.:worship:

We could even see Djokovic on the cover of SI like Graf 24 years ago.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/us.open.memorable.moments/images/steffi-graf.1988.jpg

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 10:16 PM
wishful thinking or facts?

nole had won 41 matches in a row and he was surely in a zone last year when he ran into fed at rg.

what happened?

i am just calling it like i see it. there are 7 doomed men at rg this year and one of them is nole.

it is what it is.

Fireballer
05-26-2012, 10:22 PM
wishful thinking or facts?

nole had won 41 matches in a row and he was surely in a zone last year when he ran into fed at rg.

what happened?

i am just calling it like i see it. there are 7 doomed men at rg this year and one of them is nole.

it is what it is.

you are calling shit.You are a pathetic Rafatard that is scared as he can be.Djoker will not lose before a final to Fed.He beat him with ease in Rome and at best of 5 he is the favorite.Now Nadal will win most likely but Djoker will play the final

thrust
05-26-2012, 10:28 PM
He can... not.

Probably Not, though I Hope So

Clay Death
05-26-2012, 10:29 PM
what part of "7 doomed men" are you having the most trouble with.


fed is capable of giving the clay warrior a better battle at rg in the final. fed is a better clay court player than nole. fed has the bigger serve.

fed has the variety to trouble anyone. fed has the experience on the red clay and he handled nole comfortably last year in the semis. why the hell should it be any different this year?

and fed is going to be in the final. deal with it.

and fed is not winning in the final. deal with that too.

i think most will agree. nadal should be dangerous as hell in the final this year.

TigerTim
05-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Isn't it 127 doomed men? Those who Nadal beats arn't the only doomed ones

Nole fan
05-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Clay Death, this year you've gone mad. I guess all those six finals Nadal lost against my boy hurt you real good. :facepalm:

I think Nole has a legitimate chance here. We still haven't seen his best level yet, but there were signs of it this week in Rome, specially against Federer. And he can go 6 hours and still beat Nadal like he did in AO just this season. So there is no reasonable argument to go against him, except that it will be extremely difficult. But then, nobody thought he was capable of winning Wimbledon either. :spit:

Looner
05-26-2012, 10:37 PM
No. Reason? See my sig. Also this is a cute thread which I'll make sure to bump when Djokovic loses before the semis :haha:.

Mark Lenders
05-26-2012, 10:41 PM
People saying no :facepalm:

The question isn't if he will do it, but if he can/has a chance.

If the second favorite to win the tournament has no chance has no chance, why bother even playing? Just give the trophy to Nadal and start the grasscourt season.

Of course he can. If Nadal were as cocky/overconfident as some of his fans, it'd make things a lot easier though.

Looner
05-26-2012, 10:42 PM
People saying no :facepalm:

The question isn't if he will do it, but if he can/has a chance.

If the second favorite to win the tournament has no chance has no chance, why bother even playing? Just give the trophy to Nadal and start the grasscourt season.

Of course he can. If Nadal were as cocky/overconfident as some of his fans, it'd make things a lot easier though.

People unable to read :facepalm:


Will Novak win the Career Slam?

Mark Lenders
05-26-2012, 10:47 PM
The thread is title is "The Novak Slam: Can he do it?"

Seems to me - although I might be wrong of course - that the OP is asking whether Nole can/is capable of winning the tournament and not to make futurology. The answer is an obvious yes, he's the second favorite after Nadal after all and probably the man with most chances to beat in a potential final.

EDIT: Hadn't even noticed the poll. Guess I stand partially corrected, although the poll doesn't match the thread title.

Looner
05-26-2012, 10:48 PM
The thread is title is "The Novak Slam: Can he do it?"

Seems to me - although I might be wrong of course - that the OP is asking whether Nole can/is capable of winning the tournament and not to make futurology. The answer is an obvious yes, he's the second favorite after Nadal after all and probably the man with most chances to beat in a potential final.


It's not about his chances. It's about whether he'll win or not. So no. I'd be more inclined to attempt a discussion if Nole Spam did not make such a biased poll and then Failfailler tried converting everyone to Noletardism.

Mark Lenders
05-26-2012, 10:53 PM
It's not about his chances. It's about whether he'll win or not. So no. I'd be more inclined to attempt a discussion if Nole Spam did not make such a biased poll and then Failfailler tried converting everyone to Noletardism.

Fair enough, hadn't even noticed the poll, only the thread title. I stand (at least partially) corrected.

WhoCares
05-26-2012, 10:54 PM
I think Nole has a legitimate chance here. We still haven't seen his best level yet, but there were signs of it this week in Rome, specially against Federer. And he can go 6 hours and still beat Nadal like he did in AO just this season. So there is no reasonable argument to go against him, except that it will be extremely difficult. But then, nobody thought he was capable of winning Wimbledon either. :spit:


Yeah, exactly.. it took him 6 hours to beat Nadal at AO.
Logic says says Nadal here can take him out in about two and a half!

hipolymer
05-26-2012, 10:58 PM
Of course he can. He doesn't even need to play at his best level. Rafa will implode in another slam final just like he did in Wimbledon, US Open, and Australian Open.

EliSter
05-26-2012, 11:08 PM
He might. He has an OK chance of beating Fed in SF, and a good chance if it's Berdych/Delpo for example.
He is not beating Nadal after that, though.

:superlol: He doesnt have OK chance , he is beating Federina in semi, if old man gets that far :o

Federer in 2
05-26-2012, 11:10 PM
:superlol: He doesnt have OK chance , he is beating Federina in semi, if old man gets that far :o

Yeah like last year

Looner
05-26-2012, 11:10 PM
Thread is getting cutter by the second.

EDIT: Ajde.

reery
05-26-2012, 11:12 PM
Of course he can. He doesn't even need to play at his best level. Rafa will implode in another slam final just like he did in Wimbledon, US Open, and Australian Open.

:yeah:

EliSter
05-26-2012, 11:13 PM
No. Reason? See my sig. Also this is a cute thread which I'll make sure to bump when Djokovic loses before the semis :haha:.

And thats the cute sig i will use when Olderer loses the semi :wavey:

EliSter
05-26-2012, 11:14 PM
Yeah like last year

Fedtards always stuck in past...

Looner
05-26-2012, 11:14 PM
And thats the cute sig i will use when Olderer loses the semi :wavey:

We can make a bet. I can put a Novak set if Novak wins RG/the SF and you can do the reverse. I don't really mind.

Alex999
05-26-2012, 11:21 PM
ah, you guys, stop fighting ... of course Nole can win RG. will, he? I have no freaking clue. anything is possible. say what you want, but Nole is a pretty good player on clay.

Looner
05-26-2012, 11:23 PM
ah, you guys, stop fighting ... of course Nole can win RG. will, he? I have no freaking clue. anything is possible. say what you want, but Nole is a pretty good player on dirt.

Oh, he is, no doubt. I think it's his second best surface with grass being the weakest. I just don't think he's in a good enough form to win. Let's see.

EliSter
05-26-2012, 11:26 PM
We can make a bet. I can put a Novak set if Novak wins RG/the SF and you can do the reverse. I don't really mind.

Alright, we have a bet sir.

Alex999
05-26-2012, 11:39 PM
Oh, he is, no doubt. I think it's his second best surface with grass being the weakest. I just don't think he's in a good enough form to win. Let's see.
well, I agree but he still managed to win Wimbledon last year ...I don't think it's a good idea to underestimate him on any surface (I'm not saying this as his fan) we can keep speculating here all night long, who knows?

Looner
05-26-2012, 11:52 PM
Alright, we have a bet sir.

Good. I hope if I'm losing, I'll lose because your boy won the final...

EDIT: Just thought of this - for how long? A month?

EliSter
05-26-2012, 11:59 PM
Good. I hope if I'm losing, I'll lose because your boy won the final...

EDIT: Just thought of this - for how long? A month?

Hopefully whoever win get the title. Yeah lets call it till SW19 ends?

habibko
05-27-2012, 12:20 AM
he can only dream of making the final if Federer played anywhere near his current best, another finger is waiting for him if so

this time the middle finger

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 01:25 AM
Clay Death, this year you've gone mad. I guess all those six finals Nadal lost against my boy hurt you real good. :facepalm:

I think Nole has a legitimate chance here. We still haven't seen his best level yet, but there were signs of it this week in Rome, specially against Federer. And he can go 6 hours and still beat Nadal like he did in AO just this season. So there is no reasonable argument to go against him, except that it will be extremely difficult. But then, nobody thought he was capable of winning Wimbledon either. :spit:


yes. yes. i have gone mad princess.

and i know you like me best when i am fast and furious with passion.


it is just a prediction. relax woman. that is all we do here. we speculate, anticipate, and prognosticate. and let the chips fall where they may.

you cant get the world to fall in love with your nole. and for your information, i like nole and murray. i dont have a problem with them.

we all have our players but even more importantly, we all have our own predictions and our own way of seeing things.

nole is not making the final at rg. end of story.

he will be giving up his advantage at slams if he gets butchered by the clay warrior. so one way or the other, he is out in the semis or sooner.

people should not be underestimating fed deep at this slam. he knows clay.

Sri
05-27-2012, 01:43 AM
I'd like him to but Rafa looks ominous!

Mr. Oracle
05-27-2012, 01:59 AM
i detect excessive and irrational exuberance here.

rg is off limits djokeeeeeeeesians.

better just dream about the hard courts.

Allow us to dream about grass as well...oh wait.

HATER

Mr. Oracle
05-27-2012, 02:06 AM
I have a premonition similar to the one I had in 2009. I could not foretell that soderking would invade France the way he did, and go berserk in viking fashion, but I knew that an upset was in the making. That said, I do not think that Nadal will be making the final this year. Regardless of whether he does, the King will make his subjects believe once again, just as he has for the last three slams. This is he year of the Djoker slam! Prepare for it! Hope for it! Love it! Whoah Yeah Baby !

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 02:07 AM
negative.

predicting that player A will win does not automatically mean that player B is being hated. it is just a prediction.


you are fast becoming a highly esteemed leader of the legless ejacuzee world mate.

you god cant touch fed`s record on clay at RG. talk to us when that starts to change.

keep those excessive, irrational premature verbal ejaculations coming.

we are enjoying the free amusement.

Topspindoctor
05-27-2012, 02:09 AM
Nadal will win RG, there will be no "Novak slam"

Ziros
05-27-2012, 02:12 AM
He will never win a slam again off hard courts

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 02:15 AM
He will never win a slam again off hard courts

who?

Ziros
05-27-2012, 02:21 AM
Novak

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 02:23 AM
he is very tough on hard courts.

grass may prove to be tricky this year. fed and the clay warrior are playing better so they could have something going on grass.

Mountaindewslave
05-27-2012, 02:48 AM
Clay Death, this year you've gone mad. I guess all those six finals Nadal lost against my boy hurt you real good. :facepalm:

I think Nole has a legitimate chance here. We still haven't seen his best level yet, but there were signs of it this week in Rome, specially against Federer. And he can go 6 hours and still beat Nadal like he did in AO just this season. So there is no reasonable argument to go against him, except that it will be extremely difficult. But then, nobody thought he was capable of winning Wimbledon either. :spit:

if anything having to go to 5 against Nadal at Australia bodes badly for Djokovic in the best of 5 format at Roland Garros where he has a hugeeee disadvantage surface wise.

Novak just does not have that great of a chance and anyone can upset him prior to final. I'd say he's by far the second best bet BUT what indications are there that he is a threat to Nadal on clay at Roland Garros? unless losing to fed last year and losing MC/Rome to Nadal this year are all fake outs to make Nadal not expect much of a battle at Roland Garros. that would be strange of course and illogical.

Nadal is the huge favorite by bookies for a reason- because he will win this title

fivebargate
05-27-2012, 03:08 AM
I like Nole's half of the draw vs Nole for an upset....particularly Fed. However, if Djoke makes the final....it's Noleslam time. I don't see Nadal getting it done.

Not that I place much career weight behind a CYGS or NCYGS....but I realise for some reason that escapes me that many do. For sure it speaks of a great period of dominance, but winning slams far apart is as great a feat in my book. Not when you win, but what you win all the way.

david_is_not_fat
05-27-2012, 03:14 AM
Can is not the same as want. He is able to do it, but that's not all he needs to do it.

Houstonko
05-27-2012, 04:22 AM
There is 0% Novak wins RG 2012, don't even bet him, u will lose everything. Nobody takes calendar grand slam. Even so there is more than 50% chance Novak is not defending one of Wimbledon and USO.

Olympics year always have change of number 1. Either Fed or Nadal will take it. If Nadal takes it first, Fed will take it from Nadal. Its looking ominous with only 1000 lead before USO, wimby and cinncinati.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:38 AM
fascinating year is in store for us.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 04:55 AM
There is 0% Novak wins RG 2012, don't even bet him, u will lose everything. Nobody takes calendar grand slam. Even so there is more than 50% chance Novak is not defending one of Wimbledon and USO.

Olympics year always have change of number 1. Either Fed or Nadal will take it. If Nadal takes it first, Fed will take it from Nadal. Its looking ominous with only 1000 lead before USO, wimby and cinncinati.
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 05:07 AM
he can only dream of making the final if Federer played anywhere near his current best, another finger is waiting for him if so

this time the middle finger
Nole will take that finger and put it in Federina's gently behind.

Art&Soul
05-27-2012, 06:05 AM
Nah, Faker can't do it

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:18 AM
imagine if Fed beat him again and wagged the finger
I hope both,Croatia and Serbia will stuff those funny men in skirts in WC qualifiers.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:32 AM
mirror mirror on the wall who is the most bitter of us all.....
Looney boy is pathetic and a has-been just like that weak era champion he worships.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:34 AM
this is nothing but endless reckless, suboptimal ejaculation of the highest order here at thje moment. i will settle this.

nole is not not going to see the final.

end of story.
NEGATIVE.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:36 AM
No. Reason? See my sig. Also this is a cute thread which I'll make sure to bump when Djokovic loses before the semis :haha:.
The hell is filled with men like you.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:41 AM
Fedtards always stuck in past...
That's all they've got.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:46 AM
He will never win a slam again off hard courts
Never is a very long time.:)

Allez
05-27-2012, 06:56 AM
OK here's the deal.

SF
Nole def Fed 6-3, 7-5, 6-2
Rafa def Ferrer 7-6, 6-0, 6-4

F
Rafa DEF Nole 7-5, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2

In other words yes Nole will definitely make the finals this year. No question about that. He proved it in Rome plus unlike last year this year has not been taxing physically/emotionally. Last year Fed had to play out of his mind to beat an exhausted Nole under huge pressure to keep the winning streak going. He hasn't beaten him since and there is zero evidence he is closing the gap. Not happening this year.

However, that is where all the fun stops for Nole. Awaiting him in the final will be the greatest clay warrior of all time by some margin. I like Nole and from a historical perspective I would be happy if he pulled of the Joker Slam (so when I'm old I can say I witnessed it) however I think Rafa is by far the better and more deserving player on the red dirt. Also I want him to kill the ridiculous debate about who the clay GOAT is by snatching his 7th title. He's already proven himself but all the haterz just can't get enough. Winning is a sure way to shut all them haterz down :rocker: This is his castle and here he is the King :worship:

Chirag
05-27-2012, 07:11 AM
CD I am sorry but Novak and Rafa are reaching the final .Its written in stone .Last year was a one off incident .Thats not gonna happen again .Right now Novak is better than Fed on clay

Rafa is the GOAT
05-27-2012, 07:15 AM
Accidently voted that he will win it instead of losing in the final, sorry for this misunderstanding

Nole Rules
05-27-2012, 07:24 AM
Accidently voted that he will win it instead of losing in the final, sorry for this misunderstanding

:haha:

AlterBridge
05-27-2012, 07:30 AM
I dont see why people gives Nadal more chances to win than Novak. I think its 50/50. Past trophies means nothing, and their current encounters are diceded by few points... I only hope that they both make the final.

Corey Feldman
05-27-2012, 12:22 PM
That's all they've got.the Basel, Paris 1000, Masters Cup, Rotterdam, Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid champion you are talking about

so get out before i kick you out.

Fireballer
05-27-2012, 12:35 PM
the Basel, Paris 1000, Masters Cup, Rotterdam, Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid champion you are talking about

so get out before i kick you out.

strong opponents there Mickey....finals I mean :cool:

really tough draws

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 12:58 PM
OK here's the deal.

SF
Nole def Fed 6-3, 7-5, 6-2

In other words yes Nole will definitely make the finals this year. No question about that. He proved it in Rome plus unlike last year this year has not been taxing physically/emotionally. Last year Fed had to play out of his mind to beat an exhausted Nole under huge pressure to keep the winning streak going. He hasn't beaten him since and there is zero evidence he is closing the gap. Not happening this year.

The below is assuming that Federer makes the semis:

brb Federer beat Djokovic last year at the same stage
brb Federer has maintained a higher level of play than last season (Proof; compare YTD W/L and titles won from same time last year)
brb Djokovic's level is not the same as last year (Proof; see above)
brb making excuses such as being taxing emotionally/physically last year without a shed of evidence
brb Federer has double the amount of titles this year than Djokovic
brb using Rome as an examples despite it being best of three and a slightly different surface.
brb 14-11 H2H in Federer's favour
brb still saying no question about Novak making the final and predicting a straight sets victory.
brb is this real life

inb4 the Djoko 'tards and their 'tard logic.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 01:01 PM
strong opponents there Mickey....finals I mean :cool:

really tough draws

brb having to face Nadal and Murray to win those tournaments is not tough.

are you for real? Is Djokovic the only opponent worth facing these days? If so, that is surprising seeing as he couldn't even make the finals of those tournaments Roger won :haha:

I think we also had this discussion previously and you couldn't even say anything back because you know what your are saying is indeed a myth.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 01:18 PM
There is 0% Novak wins RG 2012, don't even bet him, u will lose everything. Nobody takes calendar grand slam. Even so there is more than 50% chance Novak is not defending one of Wimbledon and USO.

Olympics year always have change of number 1. Either Fed or Nadal will take it. If Nadal takes it first, Fed will take it from Nadal. Its looking ominous with only 1000 lead before USO, wimby and cinncinati.

Sorry my brain does not register such logic. MY only reply is:
http://i48.tinypic.com/2gxmv07.gif

EliSter
05-27-2012, 01:20 PM
The below is assuming that Federer makes the semis:

brb Federer beat Djokovic last year at the same stage
brb Federer has maintained a higher level of play than last season (Proof; compare YTD W/L and titles won from same time last year)
brb Djokovic's level is not the same as last year (Proof; see above)
brb making excuses such as being taxing emotionally/physically last year without a shed of evidence
brb Federer has double the amount of titles this year than Djokovic
brb using Rome as an examples despite it being best of three and a slightly different surface.
brb 14-11 H2H in Federer's favour
brb still saying no question about Novak making the final and predicting a straight sets victory.
brb is this real life

inb4 the Djoko 'tards and their 'tard logic.

Stuck in past, stuck in past stuck in past...god fedtradts, sorry mate your logic fails. Joker > Federer atm, period.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Stuck in past, stuck in past stuck in past...god fedtradts, sorry mate your logic fails. Joker > Federer atm, period.

so brb 2>4?

Wow, mind = blown. Mathematics isn't real then? :eek:

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 01:28 PM
let the irrational premature verbal ejaculations flow freely djokeeeeeeeesians.

we need our free amusement.

and remember that Fed is coming to end your dreams. he is coming for you.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 01:32 PM
let the irrational premature verbal ejaculations flow freely djokeeeeeeeesians.

we need our free amusement.

Affirmative General. When faced with logic, these Djoko 'tards cannot compete with it and resort to using highly irrational arguments which make no sense.

We will just take our cup of coffee and lay back and watch the Djoko 'tards squirm as they are faced with logic; just like how we did at the ACC.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 01:34 PM
precisely general sambo.

Fed is coming and the djokeeeeesians are scared 1/2 to death.

Fed has ruined their sleep for the next 2 weeks or longer if you take wimbledon into account.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 01:34 PM
so brb 2>4?

Wow, mind = blown. Mathematics isn't real then? :eek:

Mathematics is real, your problem is that ur trying to solve any dilema or problem with mathematics and even if i agree that math is relevant to almost every aspect of life there are many other aspects that are more important then simple math.Sorry mate math lies sometimes.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 01:35 PM
precisely general sambo.

Fed is coming and the djokeeeeesians are scared 1/2 to death.

More like you are scared CD :o Its becoming really obvious with your constant yaping about same thing, even birds on the trees knows the song you are singing, the song of fear.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 01:38 PM
negative elister. let me and general sambo know which part of "7 doomed men" you are having the most trouble with.

it is 6-0 in the finals at RG. clay warrior king is the one they are fearing.

Fed has a significantly better record than nole on the red clay of RG.

and he took him down last year when he (nole) was in a zone and had won 41 matches in a row.

let us know which part of this sentence you are having the most trouble with also.

we are here to help.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 01:54 PM
negative elister. let me and general sambo know which part of "7 doomed men" you are having the most trouble with.

it is 6-0 in the finals at RG. clay warrior king is the one they are fearing.

Fed has a significantly better record than nole on the red clay of RG.

and he took him down last year when he (nole) was in a zone and had won 41 matches in a row.

let us know which part of this sentence you are having the most trouble with also.

we are here to help.

Sure its 6-0 for clay king in the finals, and that can be change nothing is forever, Federer is older then Joker and ofc he have better results in RG but atm i dont think Federer is better claycourter then Novak perioid. He took him down last year and that doesnt mean its gona happend again Novak wont make same mistake. U have valid points and i respect you cause of them but you are holding to those facts like drunk man to the booz, u need to get sober mate.

rocketassist
05-27-2012, 01:56 PM
Sure its 6-0 for clay king in the finals, and that can be change nothing is forever, Federer is older then Joker and ofc he have better results in RG but atm i dont think Federer is better claycourter then Novak perioid. He took him down last year and that doesnt mean its gona happend again Novak wont make same mistake. U have valid points and i respect you cause of them but you are holding to those facts like drunk man to the booz, u need to get sober mate.

If you mean better as in current form and this season then perhaps he is but overall Federer is the greater clay courter, he has an RG title to his name doesn't matter how he got it.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 01:57 PM
negative elister. bring me more scotch on the rocks.

reery
05-27-2012, 02:08 PM
Sure its 6-0 for clay king in the finals, and that can be change nothing is forever, Federer is older then Joker and ofc he have better results in RG but atm i dont think Federer is better claycourter then Novak perioid. He took him down last year and that doesnt mean its gona happend again Novak wont make same mistake. U have valid points and i respect you cause of them but you are holding to those facts like drunk man to the booz, u need to get sober mate.

Federer has 5 RG finals and a RG title. Do you think Djokovic will reach 5 RG finals?

superslam77
05-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Federer has 5 RG finals and a RG title. Do you think Djokovic will reach 5 RG finals?

yeah doesn't matter but he got it by defeating rafa at madrid so bad he messes his knees :devil:

TigerTim
05-27-2012, 02:18 PM
negative elister. bring me more scotch on the rocks.

How about you make it yourself you lazy pig.

reery
05-27-2012, 02:21 PM
Only Borg and Nadal have more RG finals than Federer.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 03:29 PM
Mathematics is real, your problem is that ur trying to solve any dilema or problem with mathematics and even if i agree that math is relevant to almost every aspect of life there are many other aspects that are more important then simple math.Sorry mate math lies sometimes.
I'm not even using mathematics in my argument on why Djokovic is not guaranteed for a place in the final. All I'm saying is that the stats so far this year do not point to an easy run to the final for Djokovic.
How about you make it yourself you lazy pig.

How about we stop calling other people names and contribute to the discussion?

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 03:47 PM
the Basel, Paris 1000, Masters Cup, Rotterdam, Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid champion you are talking about

so get out before i kick you out.
STFU clown.Or better yet continue,you amuse me.

Looner
05-27-2012, 03:48 PM
Thread is getting cutter and cutter. The answer is still no.

Vajdamos.

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 03:50 PM
STFU clown.Or better yet continue,you amuse me.

I like the awesome logic you employ. [srs]





[not srs]




Your Greek ancestors would be embarrassed.

heya
05-27-2012, 03:52 PM
roddick was in the top 10 for a decade. federer looks perfect now.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 03:54 PM
precisely general sambo.

Fed is coming and the djokeeeeesians are scared 1/2 to death.

Fed has ruined their sleep for the next 2 weeks or longer if you take wimbledon into account.
Yeah right,we're so scared of weak era champion.Nole will destroy him(if Federina even gets to the SF).As for Wimby,Tsonga(or somebody else) will take him out just like last year.CD,give up on predictions,you're not good at that(remember Rome,Fed in two?).

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 03:54 PM
let the mindless blind hate flow freely.


relax nick the greek. rome was an outlier. its tennis mate. you know we are all going to be wrong a 1000 times before its all said and done.


but nobody but a fool will bet against the clay warrior at a RG final. nobody.

and you included.

munZe konZa
05-27-2012, 03:59 PM
let the irrational premature verbal ejaculations flow freely djokeeeeeeeesians.

we need our free amusement.

and remember that Fed is coming to end your dreams. he is coming for you.

Weren't you the biggest Djokovic fan 2 years ago?

GSMnadal
05-27-2012, 04:03 PM
No chance, last year was his shot at RG. Him being in the form of his life and all, Rafa playing badly, Djokovic having just won twice against Nadal on clay. Only a fading Federer seemed to stand in his way, we all know what happened next.

This year, Novak is playing much worse, and Nadal is much better, having won their last two meetings and yet to drop a set on red clay. I can't see a scenario in which Nadal doesn't win his 7th RG.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Weren't you the biggest Djokovic fan 2 years ago?


i am still a nole and a murray fan.

that does not mean that i am going to be stop being objective.


again i call it like i see it. that does not mean that i hate somebody.


if that was the case then people would say that i am actually nadal`s toughest critic. and i am actually if truth be told.

murray has not shown me anything. fed has been the most impressive player since the last u.s. open and that needs to be recognized.

nole has taken a small hit in his confidence. fed is going to be very tough to beat in the semis.

he knows clay and he knows exactly what he has to do against nole. you saw it last year.


now what the hell does that have to do with one being a nole fan or not being a nole fan for that matter.

cant a guy call it like he sees it.

i am picking fed in that semi. deal with it.

Orka_n
05-27-2012, 04:12 PM
We will see, won't we. :shrug:

EliSter
05-27-2012, 04:19 PM
Federer has 5 RG finals and a RG title. Do you think Djokovic will reach 5 RG finals?

He is curently better CCer idk whats hard to realize about that sentence :rolleyes:

Fireballer
05-27-2012, 04:22 PM
Fedtards and loser Clay death getting along because Clay Death is full of shit and scared of Nole

masterclass
05-27-2012, 04:24 PM
Some great players (in terms of majors won) in history never won or made a final at Roland Garros, so 3 semifinals at Roland Garros is nothing for 5 time major winner Mr. Djokovic to be ashamed of.

Players with 6 or more majors without a Roland Garros win or final:

Pete Sampras: 14 majors RG: 1 semifinal and 3 QF

Boris Becker: 6 majors, RG: 3 semifinals and 1 QF

Jimmy Connors: 8 majors RG: 4 semifinals, 4 QF (did not play during 5 of his prime years, 1974-1978, due to WTT conflict)
-----------------

Can Novak win at Roland Garros? Sure. This year? Not likely. His current level hasn't been good enough compared to Nadal's. Nadal's dominance on red clay is such that he won all 30 sets at Monte-Carlo, Barcelona, and Rome, defeating Djokovic 4 sets to 0 and 25 games to 12.

Can Mr. Djokovic make a final at Roland Garros? Sure. This year? Maybe. Let's look at his draw.

R128 - Potito Starace (ITA) [97] ( Starace has shown nothing against top 10 players at RG since 2005) Djokovic in 3.

R64 - Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) [176] (Hewitt is a former #1. He took a set off Djokovic at the Australian Open. At Roland Garros, he has had the misfortune of meeting Nadal and losing to him in 4 out of the last 5 years he played (and David Ferrer) They have never met on clay. However, Hewitt is just coming off radical foot surgery to alleviate a problem that has been bothering him for years. He says he feels fine, but probably has been out too long to be a serious threat to Djokovic in a 5 set match ) Djokovic in 4
R32 - Jurgen Melzer (AUT)[32] (Melzer is undefeated on clay and at Roland Garros vs. Djokovic beating him in a 2010 QF 5 set showdown coming from 2 sets down to win. He also beat Ferrer earlier, but lost to Nadal in the SF. Djokovic won their only 2 other meetings on grass at Halle 2009 and indoor hard courts in Melz 2006. Melzer played well early in the year, winning in Memphis, but has shown nothing on clay this year. Still, he didn't show much on clay in 2010 either, his best effort a QF loss to Almagro. Melzer is definitely a streaky player and one cannot discount him. Potential upset, but I think Melzer had his day in the sun.) Djokovic in 3 sets
R16 - Fernando Verdasco (ESP) [16] ( Verdasco can be a tough customer. Ask Rafael Nadal or Novak Djokovic. He has defeated Djokovic in their last 2 meetings on clay and has a 3-2 Clay H2H edge. But Djokovic did beat him once at RG in 2007. If Nando is feeling good he may give Djokovic the most trouble. Another upset potential, but maybe his win over Nadal was good enough for him this year) Djokovic in 4 sets.
QF - Gilles Simon (FRA) [11] (I think Simon will emerge from the likes of Wawrinka and Tsonga. Gilles Simon had a good early start on the clay, going deep at Monte Carlo and winning in Bucharest, but has lost to Ferrer in Rome and Almagro in Nice. Djokovic and Simon have no H2H on clay, but Djokovic dominates him elsewhere) Djokovic in 3 sets
SF - Del Potro (ARG) [9]/Berdych (CZE) [7]/Federer (SUI) [3] (Djokovic's semifinal opponent his tough for me to call at this point as I have not evaluated that quarter completely. Del Potro has had knee problems. Berdych looked good up until Rome and why did he play at the WTC? He lost to Tipsarevic twice. Will he have something left for Paris? Federer looked tired in Rome after his tough win in Madrid, but has had a week to rest. If his draw opens up a bit, or he can make it through without too many tough battles, especially against the likes of Nalbandian and Feliciano Lopez, then he has a shot to make it past an ailing Del Potro or a fading Berdych. But if either of those players makes it to the quarters and is having a great day, Federer could go down, especially if he is looking forward to Wimbledon. I think he wants to play Halle this year and win at Wimbledon, and it might be tough to do if he goes deep at Roland Garros. Just to mix things up a bit, I'll pick Mr. Del Potro to overcome his knee problems and beat both Berdych and Federer. But in reality it could be anyone of those 3. So if Del Potro, I think Del Potro can beat Djokovic at Roland Garros. If Berdych, I think Djokovic will beat him. If Federer manages to get through, it becomes difficult to pick against him against Djokovic after Federer beat him last year at Djokovic's best. Still, one can't be sure.) Optimistic for Djokovic - Djokovic d Berdych in 4 sets or Del Potro d. Djokovic in 5 sets.
F - Nadal (ESP) [2] (If Djokovic manages to get through, I can't see him beating Nadal at Roland Garros. Nadal is just too tough, playing too well currently, and Djokovic hasn't shown enough this year since the Australian Open. His clay performances this year were not good enough against Nadal, losing all 4 sets and Nadal won twice as many games, not to mention Nadal's overwhelming historic superiority at Roland Garros) Nadal wins in 4 sets or less against anyone.







Respectfully,
masterclass

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 04:25 PM
let the mindless blind hate flow freely.


relax nick the greek. rome was an outlier. its tennis mate. you know we are all going to be wrong a 1000 times before its all said and done.


but nobody but a fool will bet against the clay warrior at a RG final. nobody.

and you included.
It's okay CD,everything is cool.I don't bet usually.But,this time I'll make an exception and I'll bet on Nole.Rafa is doomed(Simon Reed is too powerful).:devil:

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:28 PM
you will have no place to hide fireballer once this RG is over.

remember that Fed is coming for you. he is coming to end your dreams.


i repeat: what part of "7 doomed men" do you not understand?


and which sport are you watching? who has 10 slams and who has 5? and who has the winning head-to-head?

and i know you dont want to think about nadal`s clay record against nole.


now carry on with your irrational premature ejaculations at the mouth.

we are enjoying the free amusement.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:29 PM
It's okay CD,everything is cool.I don't bet usually.But,this time I'll make an exception and I'll bet on Nole.Rafa is doomed(Simon Reed is too powerful).:devil:


no worries mate. we are all here to have fun and relax anyway.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 04:33 PM
you will have no place to hide fireballer once this RG is over.

remember that Fed is coming for you. he is coming to end your dreams.


i repeat: what part of "7 doomed men" do you not understand?


and which sport are you watching? who has 10 slams and who has 5? and who has the winning head-to-head?

and i know you dont want to think about nadal`s clay record against nole.


now carry on with your irrational premature ejaculations at the mouth.

we are enjoying the free amusement.

Will be great thread to bump after RG hope u will be here mate.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:35 PM
affirmative Elister.

Looner
05-27-2012, 04:36 PM
CD teaching these mindless ejacuzeees how to behave :dance:.

Allez
05-27-2012, 04:41 PM
Nole has now won 5 of the last 6 matches he's played against Roger. Fed was easily taken care of in Rome. There's only one man who can stop the Djoker Slam and that is Nadal. Every tennis expert says the same thing. It's amusing to see some people trying to hype up a non existent Nole vs Fed rivalry. Fed needs to win more than 1 match out of 6 for that to be called a real rivalry and that win ain't coming at RG. Believe it. Federer's got an awful draw to boot. By far the worst draw of the top 4. Not even sure he can get past pony/berd in the quarters.

Roger is NOT the one standing on Nole's way. Rafa is by some margin. It's between those two that the title will be decided. To be perfectly honest I don't think there's any Nole fan who seriously think Fed is a threat to Nole getting his Joker Slam :shrug: If there is then they have not followed tennis this clay season ;)

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 04:42 PM
CD teaching these mindless ejacuzeees how to behave :dance:.
Blind and def bread's finest speaks again.January 2010 seems so distant.2 years 4 months and counting.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 04:43 PM
and what happens if Fed does it to him again in the semis?

we are talking clay general allez.

Looner
05-27-2012, 04:49 PM
Blind and def bread's finest speaks again.January 2010 seems so distant.2 years 4 months and counting.

I don't remember giving you permission to talk to me tard. You can enjoy my sig though :wavey:.

Fireballer
05-27-2012, 04:58 PM
and what happens if Fed does it to him again in the semis?

we are talking clay general allez.

yes we are talking about clay where Novak is much better than Roger.......I dont care about his career stats...right now on May 27th 2012 Djoker is second best player on clay

Looner
05-27-2012, 05:01 PM
yes we are talking about clay where Novak is much better than Roger.......I dont care about his career stats...right now on May 27th 2012 Djoker is second best player on clay

Clown. The Answer is still no.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 05:03 PM
affirmative.


you heard the man: the answer is "NO".

Allez
05-27-2012, 05:06 PM
General CD. It's not happening. I see nothing in Fed's clay form that indicates he's about to turn the tables on this increasingly one sided h2h. Nole is motivated like hell this year. He wants to lift that trophy killing 2 birds with 1 stone...achieving a Djoker Slam plus a career Grandslam. As long as RG is missing from his trophy cabinet he can't legitimately be placed at the same level as Roger and Rafa.

Again this is not just sentimental talk. You can't be a favourite with a 1-5 18 month h2h deficit. There's no logic behind that at all. Nole 2.0 has only lost ONCE to Roger. How can Federer be the favourite with ONE win out of SIX ? I'm trying to understand how people come to the conclusion that Fed owns Nole despite all the evidence to the contrary :shrug: Saying Fed knows how to play on clay is not saying much since Nole has reached two red clay finals this year...beating clay court expert Federer along the way in one of those.

If Fed wins it would be a huge upset and I'd imagine a lot of people would not be happy with that given the pummeling he'd get in the final against Rafa. The real debate here is whether Rafa has finally and once and for all solved the Nole riddle. That is by far the biggest and more interesting story. We've lots of real life and recent data to help us try to decipher who will come up on top in that final :yeah:

Looner
05-27-2012, 05:08 PM
General CD. It's not happening. I see nothing in Fed's clay form that indicates he's about to turn the tables on this increasingly one sided h2h. Nole is motivated like hell this year. He wants to lift that trophy killing 2 birds with 1 stone...achieving a Djoker Slam plus a career Grandslam. As long as RG is missing from his trophy cabinet he can't legitimately be placed at the same level as Roger and Rafa.

Again this is not just sentimental talk. You can't be a favourite with a 1-6 18 month h2h deficit. There's no logic behind that at all. Nole 2.0 has only lost ONCE to Roger. How can Federer be the favourite with ONE win out of SIX ? I'm trying to understand how people come to the conclusion that Fed owns Nole despite all the evidence to the contrary :shrug: Saying Fed knows how to play on clay is not saying much since Nole has reached two red clay finals this year...beating clay court expert Federer along the way in one of those.

If Fed wins it would be a huge upset and I'd imagine a lot of people would not be happy with that given the pummeling he'd get in the final against Rafa. The real debate here is whether Rafa has finally and once and for all solved the Nole riddle. That is by far the biggest and more interesting story. We've lots of real life and recent data to help us try to decipher who will come up on top in that final :yeah:

Interesting stat this. I don't know from which parallel universe you got it from but still interesting. Keep dreaming though. Also lol at huge upset being #3 beating #1. Noletards these days are so cute.

Another cute trait of Djokotards is how they keep spouting that the loses against RN do not count but the loss in Rome apparently does :haha:. Get a life or better yet, get a brain.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 05:15 PM
I don't remember giving you permission to talk to me tard. You can enjoy my sig though :wavey:.
I don't need permission from a clown.I enjoy highlights from USO SF 2011 much more.You see,Nole did lose to cow milker,but weak era champion was schooled in the final by Rafa.However,when Nole broke Federina's heart and caused massive butt hurt among Fedtards in USO SF 2011,he won the title after that.Two sets up,2 MP's and yet Muger lost to the man he hates the most(mmmmmmm,so SWEET).That must've been very painful.Actually,I'm sure of it(I saw Fedtards cry here on MTF) and cow milker being super bitter at the presser.Anyway,can you even remember january 2010?It was long time ago,2 years,4 months and counting.

BauerAlmeida
05-27-2012, 05:16 PM
1-Nadal
2-Djokovic
3-Federer

The odds say that, and I don't think they lie. Djokovic is the favorite against Federer, there's no doubt about it. No matter how many RG finals or titles Federer has. We are in 2012. What happened in 2006-2009 hardly matters. And the favorite is of course Nadal. But Djokovic CAN beat him (as Federer can beat Djokovic, but he is not the favorite).

Allez
05-27-2012, 05:19 PM
1-Nadal
2-Djokovic
3-Federer

The odds say that, and I don't think they lie. Djokovic is the favorite against Federer, there's no doubt about it. No matter how many RG finals or titles Federer has. We are in 2012. What happened in 2006-2009 hardly matters. And the favorite is of course Nadal. But Djokovic CAN beat him (as Federer can beat Djokovic, but he is not the favorite).

What a sensible AND objective post. :D

Alex999
05-27-2012, 05:48 PM
Nole has now won 5 of the last 6 matches he's played against Roger. Fed was easily taken care of in Rome. There's only one man who can stop the Djoker Slam and that is Nadal. Every tennis expert says the same thing. It's amusing to see some people trying to hype up a non existent Nole vs Fed rivalry. Fed needs to win more than 1 match out of 6 for that to be called a real rivalry and that win ain't coming at RG. Believe it. Federer's got an awful draw to boot. By far the worst draw of the top 4. Not even sure he can get past pony/berd in the quarters.

Roger is NOT the one standing on Nole's way. Rafa is by some margin. It's between those two that the title will be decided. To be perfectly honest I don't think there's any Nole fan who seriously think Fed is a threat to Nole getting his Joker Slam :shrug: If there is then they have not followed tennis this clay season ;)
disagree with you (as a Nole fan). Fed is always dangerous. If Novak 1.0 shows up against Fed, he will lose. His form this year is up and down. yeah, he won the AO and Miami but I'm not so sure.

Allez
05-27-2012, 05:59 PM
disagree with you (as a Nole fan). Fed is always dangerous. If Novak 1.0 shows up against Fed, he will lose. His form this year is up and down. yeah, he won the AO and Miami but I'm not so sure.

Yep. If Nole 1.0 shows up then he could lose. Nole 2.0 is something else. If JesusFed makes a comeback he'd take care of Nole...even Nole 2.0. Not sure if we'll ever see JesusFed again though :shrug:

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:03 PM
I don't remember giving you permission to talk to me tard. You can enjoy my sig though :wavey:.
Your sig?Not much to enjoy really,an old & extremely ugly guy acting like a classless douche.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 06:03 PM
it is not that easy general allez. he is a french open champion who understands clay.

dont let rome fool you. fed has the game to dismantle nole on clay.

he serves massive and executes his game plan, he wins.

he goes home if he does not serve massive and is erratic off the ground.

its just that simple.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:05 PM
disagree with you (as a Nole fan). Fed is always dangerous. If Novak 1.0 shows up against Fed, he will lose. His form this year is up and down. yeah, he won the AO and Miami but I'm not so sure.
Have faith Alex.What Nole wants,Nole takes.Last year it was Wimby and this year it'll be Olympic gold and RG.

WhoCares
05-27-2012, 06:14 PM
Cd! Stop! You Are Killing Them!

Allez
05-27-2012, 06:16 PM
Hey CD I will have to see it to believe it. He's lost so many times to Nole that I just can't easily call him the favourite. We had a similar convo before the Rome semis. If I remember correctly you expressed shock and awe when Nole sent Roger packing in two :lol: Not sure why that should have been a surprising result for a defending champion who beat the clay GOAT twice last year :lol: More than anyone I would like to see Fed pull a Sampras and win a final slam but I seriously don't see it happening here and not because Rafa has his number but because Nole is unbelievably motivated to lift the trophy this year. A hungry Nole is a dangerous Nole. 5 wins out of 6 matches for Nole 2.0 is no joke. Fed is a footnote in the story of this years RG grand marshal. Book it.

Looner
05-27-2012, 06:18 PM
Ajde, Allez. I love how you decided not to respond to my post exposing your BS reasoning. Ajde.

munZe konZa
05-27-2012, 06:21 PM
i am still a nole and a murray fan.

that does not mean that i am going to be stop being objective.


again i call it like i see it. that does not mean that i hate somebody.


if that was the case then people would say that i am actually nadal`s toughest critic. and i am actually if truth be told.

murray has not shown me anything. fed has been the most impressive player since the last u.s. open and that needs to be recognized.

nole has taken a small hit in his confidence. fed is going to be very tough to beat in the semis.

he knows clay and he knows exactly what he has to do against nole. you saw it last year.


now what the hell does that have to do with one being a nole fan or not being a nole fan for that matter.

cant a guy call it like he sees it.

i am picking fed in that semi. deal with it.


Maybe you like being contrarian and love being wrong all the time.

masterclass
05-27-2012, 06:22 PM
1-Nadal
2-Djokovic
3-Federer

The odds say that, and I don't think they lie. Djokovic is the favorite against Federer, there's no doubt about it. No matter how many RG finals or titles Federer has. We are in 2012. What happened in 2006-2009 hardly matters. And the favorite is of course Nadal. But Djokovic CAN beat him (as Federer can beat Djokovic, but he is not the favorite).

Oddsmakers preferences change with the wind and tend to be the biggest band-wagoners. It doesn't make them right, especially farther out from the event. Prior to the clay season, Djokovic was favored over Nadal to win outright at Roland Garros based on his #1 ranking, his 2011 clay performances over Nadal, and perhaps this year's AO win over Nadal (though if one looks closely, one can interpret that loss in Nadal's favor) and 7 straight wins over Nadal. But what the oddsmakers mostly failed to analyze correctly was that last year, Djokovic probably won some of those tournaments due to an extremely high level of confidence due to his streak and resulting play.

So now after Nadal soundly beat Djokovic in Monte-Carlo and Rome, the oddsmakers changed their tune and have installed Nadal as the favorite. Not surprising... If someone were to look very weak, or very strong during the tournament, the odds would likely change again.

Respectfully,
masterclass

heya
05-27-2012, 06:23 PM
nole loves you. don't hate him because he is beautiful.
stick fedfinger where the sun won't shine.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 06:27 PM
Maybe you like being contrarian and love being wrong all the time.



you cant really go wrong betting on the clay warrior at a RG final.

also me and general javier the fearless were the very first ones to suggest that fed was going to snatch indian wells and madrid masters.

i also predicted that fed would take dubai and he did.

and now i am predicting that fed is most likely going to get into the final.

you overestimate nole and underestimate fed on the red clay at RG.

superslam77
05-27-2012, 06:30 PM
you can never underestimate the general clay death predictions. no clueless,hapless,legless GM termite ejacuzee can dare to challenge. i say the prediction stays.

if i were to ask who would general clay death favor against the clay warrior in the final? the answer is no one.

superslam77
05-27-2012, 06:32 PM
that said i have signed the treaty for the serbian slayer just in case :angel:

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 06:43 PM
nole loves you. don't hate him because he is beautiful.
stick fedfinger where the sun won't shine.
:yeah: :)

GOAT = Fed
05-27-2012, 06:44 PM
1-Nadal
2-Djokovic
3-Federer

The odds say that, and I don't think they lie. Djokovic is the favorite against Federer, there's no doubt about it. No matter how many RG finals or titles Federer has. We are in 2012. What happened in 2006-2009 hardly matters. And the favorite is of course Nadal. But Djokovic CAN beat him (as Federer can beat Djokovic, but he is not the favorite).

brb disregarding a 31/4 W/L and taking a 30/5 W/L as superior.

WTf is this shit man? If Federer and Djokovic meet, it will be a tight match, a match too close to call, but NID that the 'tards will come out to make it seem like Djokovic is the clear favourite. Like I have said, the statistics say otherwise. If Federer and Djokovic both show up with the average level they have shown this season, more than likely, Federer will prevail. If both show up at their peak level then it'll be too close to call it. What you saw at Rome was a good performance by Djokovic and a poor one by Federer, even then it took a tie break from Djokovic to get through him. Simply put; no one can name a clear favourite if these two were to meet at the French.

heya
05-27-2012, 06:53 PM
an inconsistent novak choked with match point in rome, like federer did at the us open when novak was injured.

federer just stinks on every grand slam court.

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 08:19 PM
Interesting stat this. I don't know from which parallel universe you got it from but still interesting. Keep dreaming though. Also lol at huge upset being #3 beating #1. Noletards these days are so cute.

Another cute trait of Djokotards is how they keep spouting that the loses against RN do not count but the loss in Rome apparently does :haha:. Get a life or better yet, get a brain.

Allez is a Federer fan not a Nole fan, I suppose. He just tries so hard to "couter-jinx" that it's not funny any more.

Allez
05-27-2012, 08:36 PM
Allez is a Federer fan not a Nole fan, I suppose. He just tries so hard to "couter-jinx" that it's not funny any more.

You've just given yourself away mate :yeah: Your elaborate jinx crusade is way too transparent ;) You got a little flustered a while back when it wasn't working and so you have tried an even more elaborate strategy :haha:. Really sad but whatever rocks your boat :yeah: Like I said if Roger had won 5 of the last 6 matches against Nole I would not hesitate calling him the favourite. Stats do not lie but stupid jinxers do ;)

Mjau!
05-27-2012, 08:38 PM
Novak must find his 2011 level out of nowhere to beat Rafa on clay.

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 08:45 PM
You've just given yourself away mate :yeah: Your elaborate jinx crusade is way too transparent ;) You got a little flustered a while back when it wasn't working and so you have tried an even more elaborate strategy :haha:. Really sad but whatever rocks your boat :yeah: Like I said if Roger had won 5 of the last 6 matches against Nole I would not hesitate calling him the favourite. Stats do not lie but stupid jinxers do ;)


:facepalm:

I do not "jinx" or "counter-jinx". Your "over-counter-jinxing" possessed you that you apparently see everything in that light. I am serious.

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 08:47 PM
I like Federer and I want him to win, but I keep my hopes from getting too high because I have been disappointed more than once before.

Allez
05-27-2012, 08:53 PM
:facepalm:

I do not "jinx" or "counter-jinx". Your "over-counter-jinxing" possessed you that you apparently see everything in that light. I am serious.

Oh please I wasn't the one who brought up the jinxing BS. It was you. I don't do that crap. That's just whack :rolleyes:

Looner
05-27-2012, 08:57 PM
Allez, that's BS and you know it. RF almost (should have really) won 2/3 slam meetings out of those 6 and Novak did not meet RF in his best period in the last 9 months. He played him when he was dead tired. So you're spouting BS. Novak can only be favourite only due to his #1 and his youth. Nothing much.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 09:35 PM
I enjoyed last 2 year USO semis...classics. Fedtards will never forget those i bet :o

Sunset of Age
05-27-2012, 09:40 PM
I haven't seen Djokovic Version 2.0 around since the USO 2011.
If he doesn't find back that form real quick, Rafa will carve him into minced meat in a possible final. Even Fed will have his chances (if he makes it that far, of course). :shrug:

Nole fan
05-27-2012, 09:42 PM
I dont see why people gives Nadal more chances to win than Novak. I think its 50/50. Past trophies means nothing, and their current encounters are diceded by few points... I only hope that they both make the final.

This is probable the most sane and unbiased post I've read in this thread. :yeah:

Looner
05-27-2012, 09:43 PM
This is probable the most sane and unbiased post I've read in this thread. :yeah:

Nope.

Nole fan
05-27-2012, 09:44 PM
Allez, that's BS and you know it. RF almost (should have really) won 2/3 slam meetings out of those 6 and Novak did not meet RF in his best period in the last 9 months. He played him when he was dead tired. So you're spouting BS. Novak can only be favourite only due to his #1 and his youth. Nothing much.

What a pathetic argument from the nº1 hater. :facepalm:
Do you believe your own BS?

MIMIC
05-27-2012, 09:49 PM
Allez, that's BS and you know it. RF almost (should have really) won 2/3 slam meetings out of those 6 and Novak did not meet RF in his best period in the last 9 months. He played him when he was dead tired. So you're spouting BS. Novak can only be favourite only due to his #1 and his youth. Nothing much.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Dejan16
05-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Allez, that's BS and you know it. RF almost (should have really) won 2/3 slam meetings out of those 6 and Novak did not meet RF in his best period in the last 9 months. He played him when he was dead tired. So you're spouting BS. Novak can only be favourite only due to his #1 and his youth. Nothing much.

And novak was fresh as a daisy coming off a 41 match win streak vs roger last year in the FO semis. That's just BS talk, if the 2 meet this year in the Semis, Nole is running him over like a train, just as we saw in Rome last week.

tektonac
05-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Looner is peaking too early.

Looner
05-27-2012, 10:13 PM
There's too many words and too little thinking from Noletards in this thread so I'm giving up.

I enjoyed last 2 year USO semis...classics. Fedtards will never forget those i bet :o

2010 was crap. 2011 was good but neither RF nor ND played that well compared to their RG match.

MIMIC
05-27-2012, 10:29 PM
There's too many words and too little thinking from Noletards in this thread so I'm giving up.



2010 was crap. 2011 was good but neither RF nor ND played that well compared to their RG match.

:wavey:

jonas
05-27-2012, 10:34 PM
Yes he can.

Looner
05-27-2012, 10:43 PM
:wavey:

However the answer is still no :wavey:.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 10:52 PM
what is all this damn noise here?

is this another legless ejacuzees convention? they must have about 20 of those a week.

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 10:55 PM
Oh please I wasn't the one who brought up the jinxing BS. It was you. I don't do that crap. That's just whack :rolleyes:

I remember you saying you do once, perhaps in a live commentary thread, but with the pace of things here, it is very difficult to dig it out.

After a not-so-quick search, I found out that:

- You did say a couple of times that you don't believe in jinxing and all but you do talk a lot about it. Examples:
Please don't turn the title into a Murray jinx fest :o
Let's hope you're right...but I want him to have a good showing in Dubai as well :yeah:


HOWEVER please take it easy on the jinx threads will ya ? :hug:

What a ridiculous jinx thread :haha: First of all Roger is far from winning this tournament and secondly...even if he were to somehow go into RG there is no guarantee he won't be in Rafa's half. So all the haters stop jinxing and all the tards do not blow your load prematurely :p


- I almost never saw you mention that Federer is the favourite for the match. You always give the argument against him, never for. Examples from this year alone:


Dubai 2012, SF, Federer vs Del Potro

H2H before the match: 9-2

Pony's been in excellent form lately. He loses to Djokovic in the final.

Indian Wells 2012, QF, Federer vs Del Potro

H2H before the match: 10-2

Fed is tiring very fast. He can't hold off Delpo any longer.

Miami 2012, R2, Federer vs Harrison

H2H before the match: 1-0

Harrison is brimming with confidence and has nothing to lose. This is a golden opportunity to make his mark and announce his arrival. 3 set stunner :eek:

Madrid 2012, QF, Federer vs Ferrer

H2H before the match: 12-0

Ferrer probably has the 2nd best record on clay this year. If Nando can beat Rafa I see no reason the 2nd best player on clay this year can't win over someone just coming back from extended leave. On any other surface I'd go with Roger but this being clay you have to go with the in form guy.

Madrid 2012, SF, Federer vs Tipsarevic

H2H before the match: 4-0

We haven't seen the last of unexpected results at this tournament.

Rome 2012, R3, Federer vs Ferrero

H2H before the match: 9-3

A resumption of their 2003 clash in which Juan Carlos retired due to injury. He's now fully recovered from that injury therefore I expect a very competitive match :yeah: . Don't forget 13 > 10 and coupled with Roger's awful record in Rome you have a recipe for a great clash of the golden oldies. Juan knows the boost he would get from such a win heading into RG and I expect Roger to be a little sore still. This has the Miami Roddick match feel to it. Too bad Ferrero will probably lose to his next opponent :o

Rome 2012, QF, Federer vs Seppi

H2H before the match: 8-0

Well Seppi has a home advantage. There can be no doubt about the player who receives the most vocal support from the crowd here. He's also on a massive high following the stunning win over Wawa. He'll never get a better opportunity to beat the old man.
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Other cases where you always "favoured" the "not-Federer":


Dubai 2012, F, Federer vs Murray

Murray played better tennis in the semis plus semi owns Fed outside the slams...He wins...Still Roger is good enough to take a set off Murray :yeah:

Indian Wells 2012, R3, Federer vs Raonic

It's going to be all about the serve thus giving Milos a chance to win something like 7/6 7/6.

Indian Wells 2012, R4, Federer vs Bellucci

It's obvious Bellucci will win!!!

Madrid 2012, R2, Federer vs Raonic

Routine loss for Federer here. Raonic is in fine form and his serve is going to do a lot of damage. Roger's vacation has been way to long. He should have requested a real 1st round opponent than getting a bye. Only a brick wall like Ferrer can stop the Raonic machine :eek:

Madrid 2012, R3, Federer vs Gasquet

Dream draw for Gasquet. He just loves beating Roger on clay. Based on Luckyerer Escaperer's performance vs Milos you have to go with Richie who's been on great form on the dirt recently. Plus he leads the H2H on clay. Not at all unreasonable to expect him to win this.

And there are others I haven't mentioned like expecting losses to Djokovic or Nadal; benefit of doubt and all. :rolleyes:

So, what do you call these? :rolleyes:

:zzz:

MIMIC
05-27-2012, 11:00 PM
Seppi, Harrison, & Bellucci. :lol: :lol:

ESPECIALLY Seppi :spit:

luv_Nadals_balls
05-27-2012, 11:09 PM
Hell no! He can't do it! I can see Nadal now holding the trophy, with his beautiful, gorgeous, porcelain China-doll face.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 11:18 PM
please stop calling djokeeeeesians "noletards".


djokeeeeeeesians are a damn djoke 94.6% the time so this is the term that is more appropriate.

Alex999
05-27-2012, 11:31 PM
Hell no! He can't do it! I can see Nadal now holding the trophy, with his beautiful, gorgeous, porcelain China-doll face.
lol, what a nick ... don't remeber seeing you before, great post too :worship: ... you can see, right, lol

EliSter
05-27-2012, 11:32 PM
please stop calling djokeeeeesians "noletards".


djokeeeeeeesians are a damn djoke 94.6% the time so this is the term that is more appropriate.

heya makes more sense then u lately CD

Alex999
05-27-2012, 11:36 PM
and let's derail this thread completely. who are the biggest Nole tards here? Do I qualify too? hehe

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 11:37 PM
and let's derail this thread completely. who are the biggest Nole tards here? Do I qualify too? hehe



not you general alex. you are a normal dude.

Looner
05-27-2012, 11:38 PM
and let's derail this thread completely. who are the biggest Nole tards here? Do I qualify too? hehe

You and Elister are fans. I consider myself a Fedfan but I troll the tards because there's no point engaging them in a proper discussion. I mean people like that nick guy plus that newly created SetSampras dude are just a lost cause. I guess I shouldn't involve myself with them to preserve any sort of dignity but I think it's too late for that.

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 11:38 PM
heya makes more sense then u lately CD





:drink::haha::haha:

Clay Death
05-27-2012, 11:41 PM
You and Elister are fans. I consider myself a Fedfan but I troll the tards because there's no point engaging them in a proper discussion. I mean people like that nick guy plus that newly created SetSampras dude are just a lost cause. I guess I shouldn't involve myself with them to preserve any sort of dignity but I think that's too late.

general alex is the best looner.


now Elister is work-in-progress.




:umbrella::dog::smoke::rolls:

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 11:42 PM
You and Elister are fans. I consider myself a Fedfan but I troll the tards because there's no point engaging them in a proper discussion. I mean people like that nick guy plus that newly created SetSampras dude are just a lost cause. I guess I shouldn't involve myself with them to preserve any sort of dignity but I think that's too late.

Did it occur to you that they might be holding the same position towards you, and that, at least in some cases, the whole matter is a gigantic misunderstanding?

Alex999
05-27-2012, 11:44 PM
You and Elister are fans. I consider myself a Fedfan but I troll the tards because there's no point engaging them in a proper discussion. I mean people like that nick guy plus that newly created SetSampras dude are just a lost cause. I guess I shouldn't involve myself with them to preserve any sort of dignity but I think it's too late for that.
thank you. I do like Nole, but I like so many other players too. the thing is that Novak doesn't have too many fans here, not even tards... he will probably never be as big as Roger or Nadal, but that's fine with me :)... unless he wins like 18 slams ;) (I wish, but who knows, we can all dream)

EliSter
05-27-2012, 11:47 PM
Did it occur to you that they might be holding the same position towards you, and that, at least in some cases, the whole matter is a gigantic misunderstanding?

Shhhh dont revail the secrets of mtf. But its true actually. We are all right and no1 is...MTF paradox

comesbackatlast
05-27-2012, 11:49 PM
Shhhh dont revail the secrets of mtf. But its true actually. We are all right and no1 is...MTF paradox

Clay Death makes more sense than you lately.

Looner
05-27-2012, 11:51 PM
Did it occur to you that they might be holding the same position towards you, and that, at least in some cases, the whole matter is a gigantic misunderstanding?

Nope. I have only taken on this position because of their incessant attempts to insult RF and me personally. I have never seen a sane post from those clowns and even my attempts to disregard them cannot stop them from attacking my fave player. So no.

EliSter
05-27-2012, 11:55 PM
Clay Death makes more sense than you lately.

Yeah sure.

nick the greek
05-27-2012, 11:59 PM
You and Elister are fans. I consider myself a Fedfan but I troll the tards because there's no point engaging them in a proper discussion. I mean people like that nick guy plus that newly created SetSampras dude are just a lost cause. I guess I shouldn't involve myself with them to preserve any sort of dignity but I think it's too late for that.
I love you too Looney boy,I really do.

allpro
05-28-2012, 12:01 AM
djoker will reach the final only to have his career and non-calender slam hopes dashed by nadal.....shades of 2006 & 2007 vis-a-vis fed.

rg isn’t a priority for fed this year, i think he'll bow out in the quarters. he just needs a few matches under his belt then onto halle to begin preparations for wimbledon and the olympics.

nick the greek
05-28-2012, 12:05 AM
Nope. I have only taken on this position because of their incessant attempts to insult RF and me personally. I have never seen a sane post from those clowns and even my attempts to disregard them cannot stop them from attacking my fave player. So no.
There's something about The Bulldog Nose,I don't know what it is,I really can't put my finger on it,but it makes me wanna punch him in the face which is very strange as I'm not a violent person.

nick the greek
05-28-2012, 12:08 AM
djoker will reach the final only to have his career and non-calender slam hopes dashed by nadal.....shades of 2006 & 2007 vis-a-vis fed.

rg isn’t a priority for fed this year, i think he'll bow out in the quarters. he just needs a few matches under his belt then onto halle to begin preparations for wimbledon and the olympics.
The power of Clay warrior is huge,but even he can't handle both,Simon and Nole.

allpro
05-28-2012, 12:14 AM
The power of Clay warrior is huge,but even he can't handle both,Simon and Nole.

nadal loves playing spoiler, ask fed :devil:

nick the greek
05-28-2012, 12:24 AM
Fed is a senior citizen and no longer a factor.Nole on the other hand is young and hungry and as I've already mentioned there's an unlimited power of the great Simon Reed.So,Rafa is screwed.

Clay Death
05-28-2012, 01:52 AM
negative.

stewietennis
05-28-2012, 02:29 AM
If Novak wins the French Open to hold four majors in a year – will he leapfrog other tennis greats and be compared to Laver and in contention for GOAT status, even though he will only have six majors?

Clay Death
05-28-2012, 02:30 AM
no.

and its not happening anyway. this is roland garros.

Looner
05-28-2012, 02:32 AM
If Novak wins the French Open to hold four majors in a year – will he leapfrog other tennis greats and be compared to Laver and in contention for GOAT status, even though he will only have six majors?

Laver put it best when the "Rafa Slam" possibility arose. A calendar year, as far as I'm concerned, starts in January. That was pretty much the end of the debate for me. I mean with 6 slams and all 4 in the bag, he'll be equal to Agassi. I know some will say it's a row and that's true but does anyone remember "Serena's slam" nowadays?

Sri
05-28-2012, 02:32 AM
If Novak wins the French Open to hold four majors in a year – will he leapfrog other tennis greats and be compared to Laver and in contention for GOAT status, even though he will only have six majors?

His season 2011-12 will definitely be comparable to Laver's great seasons. Overall if he gets to 10+ slams and holds the Nole slam, that will be something really special!

Nole fan
05-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Laver put it best when the "Rafa Slam" possibility arose. A calendar year, as far as I'm concerned, starts in January. That was pretty much the end of the debate for me. I mean with 6 slams and all 4 in the bag, he'll be equal to Agassi. I know some will say it's a row and that's true but does anyone remember "Serena's slam" nowadays?

I'm sure that if it was Roger's Slam instead of Serena's Slam we would be reminded for the rest of our lives. :lol:

Looner
05-28-2012, 12:14 PM
I'm sure that if it was Roger's Slam instead of Serena's Slam we would be reminded for the rest of our lives. :lol:

I love how you direct your hate towards Roger when your pathetic point gets destroyed :o.

Fireballer
05-28-2012, 12:28 PM
I love how you direct your hate towards Roger when your pathetic point gets destroyed :o.

you are too dumb to destroy anyone on this forum

MagicMilan
05-28-2012, 12:31 PM
I love how you direct your hate towards Roger when your pathetic point gets destroyed :o.
As if your post has a valid point... People not remembering Serena Slam??? WTF? That's about the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions Serena and it's definitely her biggest achievement. Of course that winning RG wouldn't get Novak even close to GOAT status but it would be a formiddable accomplishment. And don't try to diminish the feat only because your fave didn't do it.
OTOH I don't see Novak winning RG this year, Rafa is just too good on this surface ;)

nick the greek
05-28-2012, 12:39 PM
you are too dumb to destroy anyone on this forum
Calling him dumb is an insult for dumb people,he's on another level.

Looner
05-28-2012, 12:42 PM
As if your post has a valid point... People not remembering Serena Slam??? WTF? That's about the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions Serena and it's definitely her biggest achievement. Of course that winning RG wouldn't get Novak even close to GOAT status but it would be a formiddable accomplishment. And don't try to diminish the feat only because your fave didn't do it.
OTOH I don't see Novak winning RG this year, Rafa is just too good on this surface ;)

I was not diminishing it :facepalm:. I said it's not equal to a freaking CYGS. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

EDIT: I should have probably said I don't remember it being 4 in a row as much as she won them all. Moreover, when Serena is mentioned I tend to think of world #1 and number of GSs. Not of streaks. If you're talking about streaks, Fed has ND beat in every department.

MagicMilan
05-28-2012, 12:56 PM
I was not diminishing it :facepalm:. I said it's not equal to a freaking CYGS. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
Yes you were, mentioning that hardly anyone remembers Serena Slam. Whatever...
And speaking of CYGS, what are your arguments that this kind of feat would not be equal to CYGS? I can't see how it is harder to win 4 slams in a calendar year than 4 starting from whichever slam... But ok, people have different opinions :shrug:

GSMnadal
05-28-2012, 12:59 PM
you are too dumb to destroy anyone on this forum

It's not nice to call names, just be nice and call him Looner.

Looner
05-28-2012, 01:00 PM
It's not nice to call names, just be nice and call him Looner.

This coming from the two biggest idiots on the forum is kind of funny.

GOAT = Fed
05-28-2012, 01:10 PM
Nole is running him over like a train, just as we saw in Rome last week.
So 6-2 7-6 loss is like running over a train?

Mind = blown at this revelation.
I remember you saying you do once, perhaps in a live commentary thread, but with the pace of things here, it is very difficult to dig it out.

After a not-so-quick search, I found out that:

- You did say a couple of times that you don't believe in jinxing and all but you do talk a lot about it. Examples:

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Wow, you destroyed the clown :worship:
If Novak wins the French Open to hold four majors in a year – will he leapfrog other tennis greats and be compared to Laver and in contention for GOAT status, even though he will only have six majors?
No, only in the eyes of Nole 'tards will this comparison be valid.