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Which qualifier/lucky loser will go farthest in Roland Garros?

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 05:21 PM
Filip Krajinovic----R1 vs Devilder, R2 vs Berrer/Melzer, R3 seed Djokovic

Nicolas Devilder----R1 vs Krajinovic, R2 vs Krajinovic, R2 vs Berrer/Melzer, R3 seed Djokovic

Michael Berrer----R1 vs Melzer, R2 vs Devilder/Krajinovic, R3 seed Djokovic

Igor Sijsling----R1 vs Muller, R2 vs Darcis/Verdasco, R3 seed Seppi

Andrey Kuznetsov----R1 vs Tsonga, R2 vs Stebe/Souza, R3 seed Troicki

David Goffin----R1 vs Stepanek, R2 vs Clement/Bogomolov, R3 seed Lopez

Florent Serra----R1 vs Lopez, R2 vs K. Beck/Kubot, R3 seed Stepanek

Daniel Munoz-De La Nava----R1 vs Cilic, R2 vs Ferrero/Dasnieres, R3 seed Del Potro

Horacio Zeballos----R1 vs Prodon, R2 vs Anderson/Machado, R3 seed Berdych

Joao Sousa----R1 vs Granollers, R2 vs Petzschner/Jaziri, R3 seed Isner

Rogerio Dutra Da Silva----R1 vs Isner, R2 vs Phau/Mathieu, R3 seed Granollers

Tommy Haas----R1 vs Volandri, R2 vs Dolgopolov/Stakhovsky, R3 seed Gasquet

Jurgen Zopp----R1 vs Gasquet, R2 vs Young/Dimitrov, R3 seed Dolgopolov

Andreas Haider-Maurer----R1 vs Tomic, R2 vs Giraldo/Falla, R3 seed Murray

Mischa Zverev----R1 vs Benneteau, R2 vs Tursunov/Soeda, R3 seed Tipsarevic

Jesse Levine----R1 vs Becker, R2 vs Ramirez Hidalgo/Raonic, R3 seed Monaco

Eduardo Schwank----R1 vs Karlovic, R2 vs F. Mayer/Gimeno-Traver, R3 seed Nadal

Mongoose
05-25-2012, 05:22 PM
Bachinger

Deathless Mortal
05-25-2012, 05:24 PM
Krajinovic, Zeballos, Sousa, Haas and Zverev all have a decent chance of making R3.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 05:31 PM
Devilder will beat Krajinovic.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 05:32 PM
Poll is up, vote vote vote!

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 05:39 PM
If I had to pick, I'd say Krajinovic/Devilder winner will definitely make R3 here. And I fully expect that to be Nicolas.

Serra definitely needs to beat Lopez. Lopez has a bad record at this event, and in slams in general. Florent has a great draw for a third or fourth round here.

Zeballos is actually probably the favorite to make R3 from his section, extremely winnable section.

Granollers will beat Sousa. I think Filippo has a good shot at Haas and if he doesn't take him out, Dolgo should do it.

Schwank and AHM both have opportunities for good runs. Edu should, IMO, definitely beat Ivo and I'd be disappointed if he didn't.

BauerAlmeida
05-25-2012, 06:25 PM
Schwank

scarecrows
05-25-2012, 06:30 PM
Kuznetsov

misty1
05-25-2012, 06:31 PM
i so pissed off. With all the winnable matches for qualifiers andrey gets stuck with tsonga:mad:

if david could ever get past stepanek a round 3 is definately possible..maybe even 4th round. Getting past stepanek is a huge if though.

If a miracle ever happened and andrey upset tsonga the draw is there for a 3rd/4th round as well

that being said i think zverev, krajinovicand haider-mauer both have the most realistic chances of making a 3rd round

Aleksa9
05-25-2012, 06:35 PM
If I had to pick, I'd say Krajinovic/Devilder winner will definitely make R3 here. And I fully expect that to be Nicolas.

Serra definitely needs to beat Lopez. Lopez has a bad record at this event, and in slams in general. Florent has a great draw for a third or fourth round here.

Zeballos is actually probably the favorite to make R3 from his section, extremely winnable section.

Granollers will beat Sousa. I think Filippo has a good shot at Haas and if he doesn't take him out, Dolgo should do it.

Schwank and AHM both have opportunities for good runs. Edu should, IMO, definitely beat Ivo and I'd be disappointed if he didn't.

Why you think Devilder will win agianst Filip?

CooCooCachoo
05-25-2012, 07:26 PM
Haas.

And otherwise Zverev and Goffin.

Fleck
05-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Haas.

And otherwise Zverev and Goffin.

Agree with you, however Zeballos seems to have more chances to make it R3 than goffin.

CooCooCachoo
05-25-2012, 07:45 PM
Agree with you, however Zeballos seems to have more chances to make it R3 than goffin.

I don't think he can get past Anderson.

LastRocket
05-25-2012, 07:48 PM
Haas

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 07:54 PM
Why you think Devilder will win agianst Filip?

He's French, he's a workhorse and he has more experience in five set matches.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 07:55 PM
I expected everyone to pick Haas. Which will make it sweeter when/if Filippo beats him.

Time Violation
05-25-2012, 07:56 PM
Haas and Zverev could potentially get into R4 :)

Gagsquet
05-25-2012, 08:02 PM
Haas and Zverev could potentially get into R4 :)

:haha:

yesh222
05-25-2012, 08:12 PM
It's too bad Zopp is getting fed to Gasquet. He could have done something somewhere else in the draw.

Federer in 2
05-25-2012, 08:17 PM
They will all reach the same round (If you know what I mean).

Just kidding, Haas.

Time Violation
05-25-2012, 08:30 PM
:haha:

Why not? His opponents are big headcases, you never know what they are capable of :p

JamieMU30
05-25-2012, 09:32 PM
How is it that Goffin got the LL spot when Bachinger and Brands were higher ranked seeds?

Chase Visa
05-25-2012, 11:41 PM
How is it that Goffin got the LL spot when Bachinger and Brands were higher ranked seeds?

Random.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 11:44 PM
I voted for Devilder/Krajinovic, but I should have picked Serra. Florent will make the fourth round here if everything goes correctly. I don't see any other qualifier making R4.

CooCooCachoo
05-25-2012, 11:47 PM
Serra will be out in R1. Duh.

Chase Visa
05-25-2012, 11:49 PM
I predict Zverev, Zellabos and Schwank to make the 3rd round.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 11:49 PM
No way. He'll take Lopez out definitely. I think Kubot is the match that could danger him. I'm not worried about Lopez. 80-20 Florent.

Chase Visa
05-25-2012, 11:50 PM
I voted for Devilder/Krajinovic, but I should have picked Serra. Florent will make the fourth round here if everything goes correctly. I don't see any other qualifier making R4.

Haas and Zverev might if things go right.

Filo V.
05-25-2012, 11:55 PM
I don't see Haas getting past Dolgo, if he gets past Volandri.

As for Zverev, his chances are very much linked to the health/rhythm situation of Benneteau. If Julien is feeling good, I don't see Mischa beating him in R1.

willoughby
05-26-2012, 12:01 AM
Zverev and AHM will reach the 3rd round imo. Finally it looks like Zverev is stopping to be a joke of a player. Let's see how much his good form lasts this time!

I hope you're right Francis, and Florent beats López. I don't wanna see that guy playing the Olympics.

nole_no1
05-26-2012, 12:03 AM
Krajinovic,Zeballos,Haas and maybe Levine will advance into the 2nd round in my oppinion. I don't think any of them will advance into the 3rd round though

Filo V.
05-26-2012, 12:07 AM
Lopez is 5-11 career at the French. So that's why you have to believe Florent will beat him.

hiperborejac
05-26-2012, 12:30 AM
I see Krajinovic euphoria here... Who knows if gets somehow to 3rd round he'll be up to 150 in the race... And maybe up to top 100 till the end of year... Go Filip!!!

JamieMU30
05-26-2012, 12:35 AM
Random.

That is weird...I thought the LL spots went to the highest ranked players who lost in the last round of qualifying?? Doesn't make sense

Chase Visa
05-26-2012, 12:43 AM
That is weird...I thought the LL spots went to the highest ranked players who lost in the last round of qualifying?? Doesn't make sense

They used to but they changed it to prevent tanking.

JamieMU30
05-26-2012, 12:56 AM
They used to but they changed it to prevent tanking.

Wow, I didn't know that...Is that for all the grand slams? What about the regular ATP tournaments? Challengers? Does that apply to those as well? When did they change it? So, basically, you're not guaranteed a LL spot even if you are ranked high...

willoughby
05-26-2012, 01:02 AM
Wow, I didn't know that...Is that for all the grand slams? What about the regular ATP tournaments? Challengers? Does that apply to those as well? When did they change it? So, basically, you're not guaranteed a LL spot even if you are ranked high...

It only applies for Grand Slam tournaments, managed by the ITF. The rule was changed around 2006

ATP tournaments and Challengers just get the highest ranked players as LL

cardio
05-26-2012, 01:10 AM
They used to but they changed it to prevent tanking.

More like : to prevent matchfixing in final rounds of quali.Tanking itself wouldnt be such a big problem, players tank matches almost on every tournament.

But situation when player A knows that he is guaranteed LL spot and player B knows that he has to beat player A in order to get into MD, is very tempting to both.

" I can lose the match tommorrow to help you into main draw, but I also lose some points then, not to mention self respect. What do you give me to compensate this ? "

" I wash your car and clean your tennis shoes ? "

" I´m afraid, my friend , you have to do better than that !"

JamieMU30
05-26-2012, 01:23 AM
Does the LL spot automatically go to a random seeded player who lost in the final qualifying round or can any of the 16 losers in FQ round get the LL spot?

156mphserve
05-26-2012, 01:28 AM
Does the LL spot automatically go to a random seeded player who lost in the final qualifying round or can any of the 16 losers in FQ round get the LL spot?

If there's 2 or less LL spots available at the time they draw the LL then they take the 4 highest ranked final round losers and draw the the 4 of them. The first name out is the LL, if they need 2 the 2nd out is the next LL, and the final 2 will be kept in that order in case there are other LL needed.

If there's 3 or more then they draw 2 more than the LL needed. so if there's 3 needed they put 5 in the draw. 4 need, they use 6, and so on

156mphserve
05-26-2012, 02:31 AM
Krajinovic,Zeballos,Haas and maybe Levine will advance into the 2nd round in my oppinion. I don't think any of them will advance into the 3rd round though

I doubt it. Usually about half the qualifiers win a match, and 1 or 2 make round 3 but we'll see

CooCooCachoo
05-26-2012, 08:23 AM
No way. He'll take Lopez out definitely. I think Kubot is the match that could danger him. I'm not worried about Lopez. 80-20 Florent.

I still have the bagel and breadstick against Matosevic in my mind. He didn't really meet any quality opponents in the QD, so we can't take any cues from that. Plus it's not like he owns Lopez in H2Hs.

Gillouthe best
05-26-2012, 08:26 AM
Zeballos should make R3 from his section, and if Haas plays like in Munich he could make even R4, Krajinovic, Berrer, Goffin, Zverev also have good chances :yeah:

Filo V.
05-26-2012, 02:20 PM
I still have the bagel and breadstick against Matosevic in my mind. He didn't really meet any quality opponents in the QD, so we can't take any cues from that. Plus it's not like he owns Lopez in H2Hs.I think that Matosevic is a different situation, he was motivated from missing out on the RG WC and took it out on Florent. But MM is at least as good if not definitely better off the ground than Lopez is. Florent should win 75% of rallies. Also Florent is a good returner-----matches up well with Lopez. I'm sure of this one, Martijn. Florent will take out Lopez, I think a straight sets win is very possible-to-likely.

JamieMU30
05-26-2012, 05:06 PM
I think that Matosevic is a different situation, he was motivated from missing out on the RG WC and took it out on Florent. But MM is at least as good if not definitely better off the ground than Lopez is. Florent should win 75% of rallies. Also Florent is a good returner-----matches up well with Lopez. I'm sure of this one, Martijn. Florent will take out Lopez, I think a straight sets win is very possible-to-likely.

Fee-Lo Green is "sure of this one"...So, now, I am convinced Lopez will win...Hopefully, Lukasz gets his revenge for that 4R Wimbledon loss last year...Quit jinxing your irrelevant journeymen, Fee-Lo

CooCooCachoo
05-26-2012, 07:51 PM
I think that Matosevic is a different situation, he was motivated from missing out on the RG WC and took it out on Florent. But MM is at least as good if not definitely better off the ground than Lopez is. Florent should win 75% of rallies. Also Florent is a good returner-----matches up well with Lopez. I'm sure of this one, Martijn. Florent will take out Lopez, I think a straight sets win is very possible-to-likely.

We'll see. I expect Lopez to have a straightforward straight sets victory.

Chris Kuerten
05-26-2012, 07:56 PM
Haas might even reach the fourth round, wouldn't surprise me.

Keyser Soze
05-26-2012, 08:05 PM
Joao Sousa has a good draw, he can beat Granollers and then Petzschner/Jaziri in Round 2.

BORO77
05-26-2012, 09:58 PM
Agree with Sousa, Goffin and Serra worth a shot in R1. At least 1 should win.
Haas, Levine, Sijsling also should advance to R2 at least.

v-money
05-27-2012, 12:48 AM
Honestly, all of them have pretty decent draws.

Zopp and Dutra Da Silva have the toughest draws but everyone has a good opportunity.

If Kuznetsov defeats Tsonga, which is possible, he could make R4.

I'm not sure how good Goffin is un clay, but he didn't get any clay court specialists in his draw. Could make R4.

Zvarev should make R3 is he keeps his form and beats Benneteau coming off an injury.

Zeballos will probably make R3.

Hass could get to R4, but really his draw is not that easy. He's getting a lot of votes because he's an old-time fave of many people. I hope he losses R2 to Dolgo.

All in all, I pick Zvarev to get to R3 as most likely.

Filo V.
05-27-2012, 01:02 AM
Haas has Volandri, a good clay player, in R1, then potentially Dolgo, then almost definitely Gasquet. The fact he has half the votes is PURELY based on his name. With that being said, everyone is entitled to their opinions.

I don't think Kuznetsov has the serve nor consistency to beat Tsonga, but he does have the weapons. That would still be a monumental upset and Kuznetsov is traditionally weak mentally.

Chase Visa
05-27-2012, 01:09 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Dutra Silva has a chance? I'm not 100% sure how he plays, but I think he could have some success grinding Isner.

And yes, Haas is only getting votes cos of his name. Tennis needs him in the Top 100 though, so I hope he does go deep.

Filo V.
05-27-2012, 01:18 AM
That would be a dramatic upset. Dutra has a dreadful record against top 120 players, let alone top 10-15 players and Isner almost beat Nadal here last season. It's a tall mountain to climb, pun intended.

Sauletekis
05-27-2012, 03:26 AM
Agree with Sousa, Goffin and Serra worth a shot in R1. At least 1 should win.
Haas, Levine, Sijsling also should advance to R2 at least.

If Sousa wins his 1st round, he has a bye to the 3rd round, IMO.

Topspindoctor
05-27-2012, 03:30 AM
Who cares?

Sauletekis
05-27-2012, 03:38 AM
You care enough to waste 10 seconds of your meanigless live, on writing that post...

Topspindoctor
05-27-2012, 03:58 AM
You care enough to waste 10 seconds of your meanigless live, on writing that post...

Lol what? I am just sitting around doing some chores and posting at the same time. You are the one who's nerd raging, kid. Calm down IMO.

Everko
06-01-2012, 08:14 PM
This Goffin has the story now. Maybe a book will be written