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Should Lendl Flee the Scene of Action

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 09:57 PM
murray is making about as much as headway as a snake making love to a buggy whip with Lendl around.

at the current rate, i can see Lendl leaving the scene of action after wimbledon. sticking around is not good for him and its not good for murray.

you have the floor. make good use of it.

fire away.


you are Lendl: do you stay or do you go?

Certinfy
05-17-2012, 10:00 PM
Lets be honest, apart from mentally staying with Djokovic when getting destroyed and then taking 2 sets against him at the Australian Open (that he should have won more comfortably anyway), what else has Lendl helped him with?

Maybe it'll take more time, but at the moment nothing good is being shown of this relationship at all.

reery
05-17-2012, 10:01 PM
I'm not happy with the highlander.

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:01 PM
i would have left already.

this is a failed lendl experiment.

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:02 PM
I'm not happy with the highlander.




:drink:


affirmative. same here.

Ben.
05-17-2012, 10:02 PM
Was he even there this week? Didn't notice him.

Let's be honest though, Murray's season wont be judged by his clay results. He has had a mediocre Feb to May, which is usually his worst part of the season anyway.

r2473
05-17-2012, 10:03 PM
Ya, Lendl is certainly known for his commitment to instant gratification and short term success.

Hell, he should have left when Murray lost his first point of the year.

hipolymer
05-17-2012, 10:05 PM
Not even Lendl, Borg, and McEnroe put together can win Murray a slam.

Jamoz
05-17-2012, 10:07 PM
Frankly my dear, i don't give damn!

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:08 PM
famed physician and a fearsome army general dr MTwEeZi in da house.

best brace yourselves now ejacuzees.

Corey Feldman
05-17-2012, 10:09 PM
its just the clay court season, no one should panic about him there

when it really counted he almost beat Nole in AO SF and could have won there so its just about getting ready for Wimbledon and after

Roland Garros will just be used as practise

JediFed
05-17-2012, 10:09 PM
Still way too early to tell. He's defending SF at Wimbledon and SF at RG.

He's also got exactly zero points in Canada, and a win at Cincinnati. Since Canada is before Cincy, that still gives him an opportunity to move up in the rankings between now and August 8th.

His lack of success in the early part of the year is really going to prevent him from moving up - but it's way too early to ditch Lendl.

green25814
05-17-2012, 10:09 PM
Who cares? Its clay, he's always been shit there. All I care about with Murray is slams, particularly non-clay ones. Even if he improves somewhat on clay he's never going to beat Nadal, Fed, and Djoker there anyway so I don't really give a fuck. At the moment he's also going through a bad run of form, which happens. Not concerned about that, he'll be back.

I am pissed off about his attitude however. He needs to stop being petulant and start playing like a man again. If Lendl can help him with that, I'll be happy.

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:11 PM
nobody is ditching lendl.

i was thinking that if i am Lendl then i need to get the hell out and go do something else.

you know something more interesting.

emotion
05-17-2012, 10:12 PM
He looks pretty awful this year, but I'd wait til grass

Certinfy
05-17-2012, 10:12 PM
If anything it's Lendl ditching Murray.

Guy clearly loves his golf too much in order to coach Murray.

green25814
05-17-2012, 10:13 PM
nobody is ditching lendl.

i was thinking that if i am Lendl then i need to get the hell out and go do something else.

you know something more interesting.

Lendl didn't become a great player by being a quitter, so I wouldn't say that just yet.

Its retarded for us as fans to talk about how a player/coach relationship is going anyway, particularly so early on. Who knows what their conversations are like/how they feel working together? Bad thread.

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:14 PM
lets say you are lendl. and murray crashes and burns at RG and then again at wimbledon.

why would you stay? he was clearly better off without you.

r2473
05-17-2012, 10:16 PM
I am pissed off about his attitude however. He needs to stop being petulant and start playing like a man again. If Lendl can help him with that, I'll be happy.

Ya, if someone could have just straightened out McEnroe, maybe "The Brat" could have won a slam :rolleyes:

In a world based on results, Murray could have a ritual of shitting on the court after his wins and people would basically be OK with it. So long as he wins majors.

TigerTim
05-17-2012, 10:16 PM
Yep, but let's wait till it actually happens - mainly the Wimbledon bit. Post Clay Murray is often very strong, this sort of blip is not exactly unusual for him.

JoWillyTso
05-17-2012, 10:18 PM
Wait until after Wimbledon and see how things are then. Murray's best stretch of the year is from Queens to the Australian Open the following year. His worst is from Indian Wells to Roland Garros.

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:22 PM
who would make the perfect coach for murray?

how about killer cahill assuming he was available?

i dont think lendl can help him. its all bogus talk by lendl and murray for the press. nobody is being helped.

who is out there who can make murray an attacking, assault-oriented player? is it even possible?

Moozza
05-17-2012, 10:24 PM
its just the clay court season, no one should panic about him there

when it really counted he almost beat Nole in AO SF and could have won there so its just about getting ready for Wimbledon and after

Roland Garros will just be used as practise

This.

Some people getting far too excited at Murray losing a few matches on clay, since when has he been beating top players on clay anyway?

Nothing to see here.

green25814
05-17-2012, 10:24 PM
Ya, if someone could have just straightened out McEnroe, maybe "The Brat" could have won a slam :rolleyes:

In a world based on results, Murray could have a ritual of shitting on the court after his wins and people would basically be OK with it. So long as he wins majors.

Maybe, but I think his attitude is detrimental to him sometimes. I particularly hate him getting angry when his opponent hits a great shot. He needs that poker face, and some ice-cold determination. Time to stop acting like a kid please

Mcenroe had similar problems but he's one of the most talented tennis players ever, it didn't really matter.

TigerTim
05-17-2012, 10:25 PM
Even better would be to get Tiger Tim himself to coach him. Granted he knows shit all about coping at high pressure slam situations but he does know how to lose with tue respect and love of an entire nation, something Murray's never done. Plus he has the ultimate achievement that even federer cannot better - a landform named after him. What more could Murray want?

Roamed
05-17-2012, 10:28 PM
I don't know if it's a case of Lendl being out, rather a case of Murray being out...

green25814
05-17-2012, 10:29 PM
Even better would be to get Tiger Tim himself to coach him. Granted he knows shit all about coping at high pressure slam situations but he does know how to lose with tue respect and love of an entire nation, something Murray's never done. Plus he has the ultimate achievement that even federer cannot better - a landform named after him. What more could Murray want?

LMAO, that sounds like a terrible yet kinda good idea at the same time. At least Henman could teach Murray how to be more aggressive.

Time Violation
05-17-2012, 10:33 PM
who would make the perfect coach for murray?

how about killer cahill assuming he was available?

i dont think lendl can help him. its all bogus talk by lendl and murray for the press. nobody is being helped.

who is out there who can make murray an attacking, assault-oriented player? is it even possible?

Let's see what happens this year first. If he doesn't get his breakthrough this year, next year(s) it will be less and less likely, no coach will help there.

Lee
05-17-2012, 10:36 PM
A bit confused when first read the title and thought has Murray ditch Lendl already. Then recognise the title should be "Will Lendl out after Wimbledon?" :p

Clay Death
05-17-2012, 10:37 PM
A bit confused when first read the title and thought has Murray ditch Lendl already. Then recognise the title should be "Will Lendl out after Wimbledon?" :p


you are right. i need to change the title.

rocketassist
05-17-2012, 10:38 PM
He'll be back in the Wimbledon semis as always.

thrust
05-17-2012, 10:44 PM
nobody is ditching lendl.

i was thinking that if i am Lendl then i need to get the hell out and go do something else.

you know something more interesting.

I agree, Lendl does not need Murray. Andy needs a sports Psychologist

misty1
05-17-2012, 10:47 PM
lets wait and see. I think its going to take more time before we see how ivan can help andy. If they last the year and andy , by next year is still in the same place he is now its time to end this.

Singularity
05-17-2012, 11:00 PM
lets say you are lendl. and murray crashes and burns at RG and then again at wimbledon.

why would you stay? he was clearly better off without you.
These things haven't happened yet.

BauerAlmeida
05-17-2012, 11:10 PM
When he fought back in that 5th set against Nole in Australia it seemed that Lendl was helping. But then he declined. He reached 2 finals but didn't even win a set and lost to players he shouldn't have.

Mountaindewslave
05-17-2012, 11:11 PM
obviously a guy like Lendl is fairly patient given his own history so he won't bail yet but if Murray were to crash on in the next few Grand SLams maybe Ivan would realize that Murray is a permanent headcase and abandon him...

however what if Murray were to win one of the next few Grand Slams? then he would be hailed as a great coach so i would not call the foul with such limited reasonings

sunsfuns
05-17-2012, 11:13 PM
I would stay until USO at least and see how it goes on more favorable surfaces. A rare brilliant match aside Murray's game is not and probably will never be suited for clay...

Voo de Mar
05-17-2012, 11:36 PM
I don't expect seeing Lendl in Murray's box next season if the Scot doesn't win a slam this year which is very likely to happen.

piksi
05-17-2012, 11:42 PM
its just the clay court season, no one should panic about him there

when it really counted he almost beat Nole in AO SF and could have won there so its just about getting ready for Wimbledon and after

Roland Garros will just be used as practise

almost winning = losing

sylacauga
05-17-2012, 11:53 PM
Murray's performance has nothing to do with Lendl. I believe like Samson, Murray draws his strength from his hair. Murray must allow his Scottish fro to grow and grow in order to perform his best. I think by the time it reaches 3 ft. he'll be ready to win a slam.

Chase Visa
05-17-2012, 11:54 PM
It's tricky. At least clay isn't really his thing, but he looks further away from the big 3 than ever.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:06 AM
I don't expect seeing Lendl in Murray's box next season if the Scot doesn't win a slam this year which is very likely to happen.



nothing against the highlander but i would have left already to go explore other options.

lendl cant help him. lendl lost 11 slam finals and he could not volley worth a shit. he was hardly an attacking/assault-oriented player.

not saying that lendl is not an all time great but he is the wrong guy. lendl should not have taken on this experiment and soon he may start to see that.

swebright
05-18-2012, 12:09 AM
Only until end of the year. It depends on Murray, no coach can help him. Sometimes, you just don't see aggression in him.

Plus, he has peaked already.

tektonac
05-18-2012, 12:15 AM
lendl has requested his ejection seat inspected.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:17 AM
only the highlander can help himself the best.

here is what he needs:

1. better fitness
2. better first serve
3. better 2nd serve
4. more effective slice
5. major forecourt presence and that invariably means that he has to become more confident at the net
6. better forehand
7. better, more positive attitude
8. better testicular fortitude : (he sucks on the castle testicular fortitude scale)




now somebody tell the highlander to start spending some time here at ejacustan (aka GM) and also start reading the castle and he can be well on his way to a better fortunes on the tennis court.

ossie
05-18-2012, 12:17 AM
he should flee the scene asap. losing to a french chambermaid like gascoke was his cue.

Nole fan
05-18-2012, 12:18 AM
I think Murray will hit bottom and then he will be reborn like a Phoenix and have his best year ever in 2014.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:23 AM
lendl should have alread fled the scene.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:24 AM
I think Murray will hit bottom and then he will be reborn like a Phoenix and have his best year ever in 2014.


i was thinking more like 2030 princess of barcelona and the world.

when the 3 current all time greats---fed, the great serbian slayer, and the the great clay warrior king) are long retired and can only be found on golf courses).

Fireballer
05-18-2012, 12:31 AM
he should flee the scene asap. losing to a french chambermaid like gascoke was his cue.

Delpo lost to Tsonga who is worse on clay than Gasquet

HKz
05-18-2012, 12:33 AM
Really dumb thread again by Clay Fail.

Several reasons-
1. Murray is actually doing fine. He won Brisbane, was the closest he has ever been to defeating Novak at a slam, reaching Dubai final beating Novak along the way (unlucky to meet on fire Federer in the final really), had his one true blip at Indian Wells at GGL but even Nadal has had his blip against GGL, reached finals of Miami and has had a rather normal clay season for him. The losses may be surprising, but people give Murray way too much credit on clay. He can certainly play on clay and can technically compete with the best on that surface, but it isn't his bread and butter, so who gives a fuck.
2. Coach + player relationships take a long time to develop.3
3. No matter how good the relationship is with the coach, it isn't going to change whether Murray will play an important point more or less aggressively or even different at all. At the end of the day, the player will revert to whatever he feels most comfortable with. We've seen Federer go on periods without having a truly formal coach during his prime years, and honestly that is how very little it matters in the pros. Tards like Clay Fail, who by the way doesn't believe there are such things as match ups in tennis, probably believe coaches actually do a lot for players when in reality, all the coach can do is try to help give positive mentality. Just look at the Federer/Annacone relationship. They got together right after Wimbledon 2010, and did it immediately cause Federer to have great success? Sure, Federer did reach the Canada final and win Cincinnati (both of which were going to be a probable for Federer regardless of a coach) but aside from winning the WTF, Federer really didn't do much until indoor season of 2011 and obviously he has yet to win a slam as well.

What Murray has experienced so far is very normal, especially for him. At least he didn't completely disappear like in 2010 where he really didn't do shit at all from AO until Wimbledon really.

now somebody tell the highlander to start spending some time here at ejacustan (aka GM) and also start reading the castle and he can be well on his way to a better fortunes on the tennis court.

Think anybody reading your shit would make them want to permanently leave earth.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:39 AM
Infectus must be around.

i thought so. stench is unmistakable.

PoorMan'sDavy
05-18-2012, 12:39 AM
Sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better. Lendl knows how bad it can get, and he knows how good fortune (RG Final 1984) can change everything. But Lendl only respects those who can walk through the fire and not complain. Can the Murray keep Lendl's respect? I don't know but that is what would end the relationship, not Lendl's concern about whether it looks like he is doing a good job or not - he is not concerned about that.

Lendl is the real Spartan.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 12:45 AM
good post.

J99
05-18-2012, 01:01 AM
Lendl's around, I haven't seen him for awhile, where's Lendl, I think he has fleed the scene of action, he's maybe already lost his patience with Andy, I don't think he's in Rome, is it that he doesn't like to travel much, was he playing a Champions tour event, one wonders, every time Andy plays an event it's like where's Lendl.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 01:04 AM
it is possible. i like the highlander but i am not hanging around if i am lendl.

Topspindoctor
05-18-2012, 01:22 AM
murray is making about as much as headway as a snake making love to a buggy whip with Lendl around.

at the current rate, i can see Lendl leaving the scene of action after wimbledon. sticking around is not good for him and its not good for murray.

you have the floor. make good use of it.

fire away.


you are Lendl: do you stay or do you go?


It doesn't matter.

Lendl is but a coach, not a miracle worker. You can't instill talent into someone who lacks it. Pushray was always a lost cause, Lendl should use his considerable skills to coach someone who's actually good and not a hopeless mug with no offensive game and mental strength of WTA player.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 01:45 AM
lendl understands the game general topspin.

why the hell did he take this job in the first place?

Topspindoctor
05-18-2012, 01:50 AM
I dunno...he's desparate to return to tennis scene, I guess.

Seriously, why do people overrate Murray so much?

You need a good forehand in modern game. Murray doesn't have it.

All slam winners with 10+ slams in recent times boasted a huge forehand.

Sampras, Federer, Nadal, Borg.

tripwires
05-18-2012, 02:51 AM
Really dumb thread again by Clay Fail.

Several reasons-
1. Murray is actually doing fine. He won Brisbane, was the closest he has ever been to defeating Novak at a slam, reaching Dubai final beating Novak along the way (unlucky to meet on fire Federer in the final really), had his one true blip at Indian Wells at GGL but even Nadal has had his blip against GGL, reached finals of Miami and has had a rather normal clay season for him. The losses may be surprising, but people give Murray way too much credit on clay. He can certainly play on clay and can technically compete with the best on that surface, but it isn't his bread and butter, so who gives a fuck.
2. Coach + player relationships take a long time to develop.3
3. No matter how good the relationship is with the coach, it isn't going to change whether Murray will play an important point more or less aggressively or even different at all. At the end of the day, the player will revert to whatever he feels most comfortable with. We've seen Federer go on periods without having a truly formal coach during his prime years, and honestly that is how very little it matters in the pros. Tards like Clay Fail, who by the way doesn't believe there are such things as match ups in tennis, probably believe coaches actually do a lot for players when in reality, all the coach can do is try to help give positive mentality. Just look at the Federer/Annacone relationship. They got together right after Wimbledon 2010, and did it immediately cause Federer to have great success? Sure, Federer did reach the Canada final and win Cincinnati (both of which were going to be a probable for Federer regardless of a coach) but aside from winning the WTF, Federer really didn't do much until indoor season of 2011 and obviously he has yet to win a slam as well.

What Murray has experienced so far is very normal, especially for him. At least he didn't completely disappear like in 2010 where he really didn't do shit at all from AO until Wimbledon really.



Think anybody reading your shit would make them want to permanently leave earth.

:haha: Great post. I think people are overreacting to Murray's loss against Gasquet. His results prior to this loss were pretty good and clay has never been his forte. If I were a Murray fan, I'd be worried if he posted such results from RG onwards.

Topspindoctor
05-18-2012, 02:59 AM
:haha: Great post. I think people are overreacting to Murray's loss against Gasquet. His results prior to this loss were pretty good and clay has never been his forte. If I were a Murray fan, I'd be worried if he posted such results from RG onwards.

I were a Mugray fan, I'd be worried about supporting a pusher with no forehand, because his chances to win slams relying on errors of other players are slim to none. Pushray isn't a slam winning material, he's an embarassment with his lack of weapons, his on court antics and his deluded fangirls like Sapeod. Time to wake up and realize this clown will never win a slam, because his game is limited and his weapons are few. Clay courts only expose his lack of game. His shitty forehand, his lack of power and his inability to hit winners.

abraxas21
05-18-2012, 03:10 AM
murray will win at least 1 GS someday

and i'm sure his relationship with ivan will pay off eventually

J99
05-18-2012, 03:19 AM
It doesn't matter.

Lendl is but a coach, not a miracle worker. You can't instill talent into someone who lacks it. Pushray was always a lost cause, Lendl should use his considerable skills to coach someone who's actually good and not a hopeless mug with no offensive game and mental strength of WTA player.

#4 isn't good, just quit your AM hate shtick already, go and hump Rafa. :facepalm: :help:

He has decent mental toughness.

Topspindoctor
05-18-2012, 03:29 AM
#4 isn't good, just quit your AM hate shtick already, go and hump Rafa. :facepalm: :help:

He has decent mental toughness.

:haha:

That's why he's 0-9 sets won in slam finals :superlol:

J99
05-18-2012, 03:33 AM
:haha:

That's why he's 0-9 sets won in slam finals :superlol:

At least he's been to major finals which take a decent amount of mental toughness to get there, have you, no, all you do is sit there and laugh at him for it, do you know how many players make major finals, not many, it just makes you look like an ass.

nick the greek
05-18-2012, 03:49 AM
Not even Lendl, Borg, and McEnroe put together can win Murray a slam.
Not even Jesus Christ can do that and a guy can turn water into wine.

Allez
05-18-2012, 06:19 AM
If nothing has happened for Murray by the end of the season (something I don't even want to think about given that Murray is 25 this year) then I'm afraid this experiment will have failed...

fsoica
05-18-2012, 06:48 AM
you are Lendl: do you stay or do you go?

A true warrior cannot quit the scene so soon. Lendl needs to see his pupil for what he really is (a loser) for at least 18 months before saying good-bye. Lendl was a big fighter, so he will stay until Muzza will fire him.

moon language
05-18-2012, 08:00 AM
Murray says he's had a back problem since December http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.com/News/Tennis/2012/Tournament/Murray-Thursday.aspx

Sophocles
05-18-2012, 09:54 AM
This year he actually gave a top player a match in the later stages of a slam and then made 2 finals after that. That's better than the previous 2 years. A couple of bad losses on clay (& Gasquet has beaten Federer on clay, twice, & Raonic is one of the form players, so they weren't that bad) are no reason to panic.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 10:54 AM
good post general sophocles. we were simply wondering what sort of thoughts might be going through lendl`s mind.

he has to be wondering how long to give this experiment before he becomes a bit of a laughing stock.

also what commodity is more scarce and more precious than time. he can go do better things with his time if he has the resources.

he has a family for one thing.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 04:23 PM
i know how murray can improve. i believe i can help him.


and lendl is good as gone. he is out of there after wimbledon. you can make book on that.

Singularity
05-18-2012, 05:45 PM
:haha:

That's why he's 0-9 sets won in slam finals :superlol:
He has a 67% record in finals overall, and an 80% record in masters finals. He's also 25th of all time on break points converted, and only 1% behind Djokovic in that stat.

It might be a good idea to judge a players career on more than just three matches they've played.

tennis2tennis
05-18-2012, 05:55 PM
question how long do you give a coach before you can see a difference?

Moozza
05-18-2012, 06:03 PM
Good to see people on this thread actually realising that this is only the clay season so losing a few matches means very little for Murray on this surface. Haters on other threads seem to be assuming/hoping this form will continue past RG and are getting very excited about it.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 06:12 PM
i see no haters at this thread old sport.

Time Violation
05-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Good to see people on this thread actually realising that this is only the clay season so losing a few matches means very little for Murray on this surface. Haters on other threads seem to be assuming/hoping this form will continue past RG and are getting very excited about it.

The point is, if he wants to remain at #4 or maybe #3, then he's doing fine so far this year, no worries. However, if his goal is #1, he should do much better than this, clay season included. :)

JoWillyTso
05-18-2012, 06:17 PM
Good to see people on this thread actually realising that this is only the clay season so losing a few matches means very little for Murray on this surface. Haters on other threads seem to be assuming/hoping this form will continue past RG and are getting very excited about it.

Plus, I think Andy Murray is focussing so much on the Grand Slam that other tournaments are being forgotten about. Because he hasn't won a slam he has to to expend more energy on focussing the slams. Although Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are all still focussing mainly on the slams, they don't need to focus as much on the slams and this means they can still perform really well at masters etc.

Anyway, Andy Murray haters are going to be shocked when Andy Murray outperforms their expectations at RG.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 06:18 PM
i believe i can help him.

but he will have to check us out here at ejacustan. he will have to read MTF.

lendl is good as gone. murray is going to go through a lot of coaches in his career.

i would even consider going without a coach for 6 months once lendl hits the golf courses and the senior tennis tour.

decrepitude
05-18-2012, 06:20 PM
question how long do you give a coach before you can see a difference?

A darn sight longer than some people on here are giving.

Murray has said more than once that results will not be visible immediately, and I expect Lendl will know that too - or he would have said otherwise. While they probably both hoped for more during the clay season, the back problem has affected that. Getting a zero-pointer for a masters does not help at all.

timafi
05-18-2012, 06:23 PM
I'll give it until AFTER the Olympics.If Murray doesn't make the finals at either events either he'll fire Lendl or Lendl will walk away

Bobby
05-18-2012, 07:28 PM
Plus, I think Andy Murray is focussing so much on the Grand Slam that other tournaments are being forgotten about. Because he hasn't won a slam he has to to expend more energy on focussing the slams. Although Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are all still focussing mainly on the slams, they don't need to focus as much on the slams and this means they can still perform really well at masters etc.

Anyway, Andy Murray haters are going to be shocked when Andy Murray outperforms their expectations at RG.

Quite the opposite actually. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic know what it takes to win a slam. They also know they have the tools required. Therefore thay can afford to take it easy in some other events. Murray on the other hand has to build his momentum in preceding tournaments and push it even more at the slam.

And Murray should have stayed with Gilbert. Gilbert knows all there is to know about mental part of the game and that's where Murray needs help. Grass is not greener and long term coaching relationship is what brings the results.

TigerTim
05-18-2012, 07:35 PM
I'm surprised by the level of rational thought on this thread. Didn't think MTF would be capable.

Clay Death
05-18-2012, 07:38 PM
good thread.

TigerTim
05-18-2012, 07:58 PM
good thread.

who started it? :p

Roger the Dodger
05-18-2012, 08:04 PM
The Lendl flea will soon bug Murray.

Moozza
05-18-2012, 08:23 PM
i see no haters at this thread old sport.

I know. That was pretty much what I said.

Corey Feldman
05-18-2012, 08:28 PM
I were a Mugray fan, I'd be worried about supporting a pusher with no forehand, because his chances to win slams relying on errors of other players are slim to none. Pushray isn't a slam winning material, he's an embarassment with his lack of weapons, his on court antics and his deluded fangirls like Sapeod. Time to wake up and realize this clown will never win a slam, because his game is limited and his weapons are few. Clay courts only expose his lack of game. His shitty forehand, his lack of power and his inability to hit winners.well you are not a Murray fan

you are a gloryhound hanging of Nadal's balls and everything he does so get out of here before i report you for the 10th time

go back to NT and the hottest female player thread so you can drool over trannies you relic

Nole fan
05-18-2012, 11:54 PM
Plus, I think Andy Murray is focussing so much on the Grand Slam that other tournaments are being forgotten about. Because he hasn't won a slam he has to to expend more energy on focussing the slams. Although Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are all still focussing mainly on the slams, they don't need to focus as much on the slams and this means they can still perform really well at masters etc.

Anyway, Andy Murray haters are going to be shocked when Andy Murray outperforms their expectations at RG.

That's true. He seems to do well in slams and bounce out early in other tournaments. But that is a risky game.