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Murray claims players who swear in English fall foul of authorities

SelvenluvJo
05-17-2012, 01:43 AM
Andy Murray admits that he should not swear so much on court but believes that as an English speaker he is punished more than many other players. The world No 4 was given an official warning for a verbal obscenity during his opening victory over David Nalbandian in the Rome Masters at Foro Italico on Tuesday but says his opponent got away with much more because he was speaking in Spanish.

Television commentators have often had to apologise for Murray's language and the 25-year-old Scot said: "I swear on court regularly. I try not to, but sometimes you forget where you are and what's going on. It's a mistake and something I try not to do, but I also understand a lot of the stuff [Nalbandian] was saying, from my time in Spain."

Murray, who meets Richard Gasquet in today's third round, added: "Because what I say is in English, we're always the ones to get the warnings. What came out of my mouth was nowhere near the translation of the things [Nalbandian] said. But it's not right to do it and I deserved a warning."

Roger Federer, who said he rarely uttered inappropriate words on court in Swiss-German these days, said Murray was probably right about English-speakers being more likely to be warned. but added: "You shouldn't maybe do it, but who cares? Sometimes it's to yourself and who cares? It happens."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/murray-claims-players-who-swear-in-english-fall-foul-of-authorities-7758032.html

what did Nalbandian say at that match? :spit:

Topspindoctor
05-17-2012, 01:46 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

J99
05-17-2012, 01:51 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

Just stop already, nobody should tolerate this bile you continually spew forth, it's a bad image for MTF, but unlike you I will.

emotion
05-17-2012, 01:51 AM
A hooligan and a rascal, once again up to nefarious shenanigans.

Seriously, it's not much of an issue and I think instances wouldn't increase too much if they got rid of the rule (along with all other idiotic sportsmanlike conduct rules)

Sunset of Age
05-17-2012, 01:54 AM
Ah come on, letting out the incidental **** curse is merely human behaviour.
Okay it might insult some, but it doesn't me.

Actually it makes me smile more than anything else most of the time - shows the players are human beings like us all.
Yes, it's 'bad', but worse things happen every day, don't they?
Of course - if it stays within 'acceptable limits' (whatever those might be).

I give out points for good racket smashes, perhaps I should do the same for volatile, emotional :shout: :shout: :shout:

:D

Orka_n
05-17-2012, 01:55 AM
A hooligan and a rascal, once again up to nefarious shenanigans.

Seriously, it's not much of an issue and I think instances wouldn't increase too much if they got rid of the rule (along with all other idiotic sportsmanlike conduct rules)Tennis is a gentleman's sport. Those rules have a function.

This is a non-thread btw.

Arkulari
05-17-2012, 01:59 AM
If they are swearing to let off steam and aren't directing the curses towards anyone else but themselves it is a completely natural thing for me IMO :shrug:

Orka_n
05-17-2012, 02:03 AM
Punishment for swearing is applied in many sports, probably because they want it all to be family accessible. I see nothing wrong with that. If the players want to let off steam they can do it in other ways.

abraxas21
05-17-2012, 02:05 AM
what did Nalbandian say at that match? :spit:

didn't watch the match in particular but fat dave usually swears a lot during matches.

not that i have a problem with it. andy murray is spot on.

lucyfur
05-17-2012, 02:06 AM
Sometimes children are watching, and parents don't want their kids exposed to bad language.
My niece who speaks Spanish saw Nando swearing in Spanish and she says to me,oooh he said a bad word!:lol:
Btw my niece is 7 years old.

abraxas21
05-17-2012, 02:06 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

the fact that minors also participate on this website doesn't keep you from using all types of swear words, now does it?

Henry Chinaski
05-17-2012, 02:07 AM
murray is right but it's not like he's getting docked points or being fined all the time.

mostly agree with fed. who cares?

Linque
05-17-2012, 02:07 AM
Sharkko swears all the time in matches.

Murray should learn another language if he wants to swear that bad.

tripwires
05-17-2012, 02:07 AM
Clearly Murray needs to learn a foreign language.

abraxas21
05-17-2012, 02:08 AM
Tennis is a gentleman's sport. Those rules have a function.

This is a non-thread btw.

swearing is part of the game, imo.

scrath that. it's actually a part of humanity

Topspindoctor
05-17-2012, 02:09 AM
the fact that minors also participate on this website doesn't keep you from using all types of swear words, now does it?

No, it doesn't. But I am not #4 tennis player in the world playing on the world stage. I am just a forum poster.

Pushray should be setting standards, not disgrace the game with his negative attitude and foul language. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be throwing F bombs every time I lost a point, that's for sure.

But then again, you're a secret mugraytard, so of course you will disagree :o

sicko
05-17-2012, 06:33 AM
Tennis is a gentleman's sport.

maybe you should watch the last two GS finals. :wavey:

green25814
05-17-2012, 06:37 AM
Swearing is a natural way to let of steam, its better than punching a wall anyway. You can't stop it from happening in sport, particularly something like tennis.

Mostly I just think its not much of an issue

green25814
05-17-2012, 06:39 AM
Why doesn't he use the Spanish he learned in Spain?

English swearwords are better. Particularly the F-bomb, there's nothing quite like it. Dunno why, its just so satisfying to say.

CooCooCachoo
05-17-2012, 06:45 AM
If only Esperanto had succeeded.

fsoica
05-17-2012, 07:03 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

I got it now. You are a troll with a nice sense of humor. I will not call you names from now on, just 'cause you make me laugh. Keep up the good work :devil:

Mechlan
05-17-2012, 07:26 AM
Is grass green? How is this news?

Punishment for swearing is applied in many sports, probably because they want it all to be family accessible. I see nothing wrong with that. If the players want to let off steam they can do it in other ways.

Yes, there's nothing wrong with the rules. Would be nice if they were applied more evenly, but what can you do. The top players get away with things that lower ranked players wouldn't and English speakers get penalized for speaking the universal language. Just how it is.

lidal
05-17-2012, 07:30 AM
Maybe Muzza should learn how to swear properly ...

... in Serbian:

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... or in Croatian:

Z4D5dvNVn-4

:devil:

MaxPower
05-17-2012, 07:32 AM
Andrew should learn swedish (as long as Mo isn't umpire)

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Mercury
05-17-2012, 07:44 AM
I actually like it when players swear. It's a sport and how boring would it be if they were all walking around like a bunch of ice-men? I quite like seeing emotional reactions, reminds me these players are still human.

swaggles
05-17-2012, 07:52 AM
Seems like nothing really. Foreign players have to learn English and such to conduct interviews and function on tour- Murray just has to deal with this minor inconvenience. At least he doesn't have to learn a whole new language!

scoobs
05-17-2012, 07:54 AM
Yes, Murray has a point - Nalbandian was puta madre-ing all over the place in their match, among other things, at very audible volumes, but nary a warning in his direction.

But also, who cares? Murray rarely gets warned even for very blatant pottymouthisms so he should keep that in mind.

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 08:01 AM
Agree with Federer, who cares?
I swear all the time too, so what? so does all the people I know. They just happen to make it in public, no big deal.

Arkulari
05-17-2012, 08:12 AM
English swearwords are better. Particularly the F-bomb, there's nothing quite like it. Dunno why, its just so satisfying to say.

Oh you haven't heard the creativity of the Spanish insults, specially in the Basque Country where you call your dearest friend a "maricón" without blinking and as a term of endearment... :lol:

VBH-rjmh6so

bA9otkJvKz0

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 08:14 AM
Oh you haven't heard the creativity of the Spanish insults, specially in the Basque Country where you call your dearest friend a "maricón" without blinking and as a term of endearment... :lol:

VBH-rjmh6so

bA9otkJvKz0

Well Natalia that, I'm sorry to tell you, goes for the rest of Spain too. It's not only the basques who speak like that. It's very usual to call your friend cabrón or maricón. :shrug:

green25814
05-17-2012, 08:18 AM
I'm sure Spanish has great insults, but there's something about an F-bomb which can't be replicated for me. Its a great stress-reliever, better than any shrink or counsellor :p

RIboy
05-17-2012, 08:19 AM
what's the match without an old-good occasional F-bomb? nothing wrong w/ that....

pesto
05-17-2012, 08:23 AM
Even if you know a second language, in times of stress, you will always go back to the sweet tones of your mother tongue.

samanosuke
05-17-2012, 08:26 AM
Big deal saying fuck now and then. He should learn balkan languages to know to swear like a man if he can't play tennis like a man

samanosuke
05-17-2012, 08:32 AM
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FleetSeb
05-17-2012, 08:37 AM
Nalbandian once called the Wimbledon crowd 'C****', but in the Spanish equivalent. That is the worst instance of swearing I have EVER heard. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't punished.

sicko
05-17-2012, 08:41 AM
Nalbandian once called the Wimbledon crowd 'C****', but in the Spanish equivalent. That is the worst instance of swearing I have EVER heard. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't punished.

well then you haven't heard Nole:

"shut up cu.nt, I'll fuck your mother"

cardio
05-17-2012, 08:42 AM
Murray is Scot, right ? Then he just has to learn how to swear in Gaelic and noone would understand.I dont know a word in Gaelic, but I´m pretty sure all highland people in the world have rich vocabulary and lot of politically non-correct words to express their frustration,disappointment and anger :D

MaxPower
05-17-2012, 08:45 AM
Yes, Murray has a point - Nalbandian was puta madre-ing all over the place in their match, among other things, at very audible volumes, but nary a warning in his direction.

But also, who cares? Murray rarely gets warned even for very blatant pottymouthisms so he should keep that in mind.

Ferrer got a warning for puta madre-ing all over the place in his match vs Soderling in the Båstad final last year. So Murray isn't 100% right

Lopez
05-17-2012, 08:49 AM
Yeah I think this is obvious, though I'm surprised that the Spanish players aren't punished more often, it's such a common language and even I understand some of the curse words despite never learning it.

As said before in this thread, Jarkko Nieminen curses regularly on court.

SelvenluvJo
05-17-2012, 08:56 AM
Yeah I think this is obvious, though I'm surprised that the Spanish players aren't punished more often, it's such a common language and even I understand some of the curse words despite never learning it.

As said before in this thread, Jarkko Nieminen curses regularly on court.
really? no offence ,his appearance looks like a wizard. :unsure:

ossie
05-17-2012, 09:06 AM
Tennis is a gentleman's sport. No

TigerTim
05-17-2012, 09:07 AM
Murray is Scot, right ? Then he just has to learn how to swear in Gaelic and noone would understand.I dont know a word in Gaelic, but I´m pretty sure all highland people in the world have rich vocabulary and lot of politically non-correct words to express their frustration,disappointment and anger :D

Plus Gaelic sounds Awsome!

Chris Kuerten
05-17-2012, 09:09 AM
I try not to, but sometimes you forget where you are and what's going on.Is Murray on drugs?

Lopez
05-17-2012, 09:17 AM
really?

Yeah :lol:. Some Finnish classics such as vittu, saatana, perkele

no offence ,his appearance looks like a wizard. :unsure:

Ummmmmm

Ok? :scratch:

Helevorn
05-17-2012, 09:25 AM
lol, an english native speaker can be monoglot and still be understood everywhere in the world and murray complains about these things as if they were real problems? :lol:

SelvenluvJo
05-17-2012, 09:31 AM
Yeah :lol:. Some Finnish classics such as vittu, saatana, perkele



:lol: well, I believe that most of the time we just curse ourself on court.

MariaV
05-17-2012, 09:31 AM
Even if you know a second language, in times of stress, you will always go back to the sweet tones of your mother tongue.

This.
Indeed, who cares. And the kids will survive. ;)

pesto
05-17-2012, 09:32 AM
I shouldn't imagine there are many Gaelic speakers in Dunblane. And even fewer in Oxshott.

Andy would get much more chance to practise his effing and jeffing if he took up Spanish. Though maybe Serbian would be less likely to be understood by most of the audience.

RIboy
05-17-2012, 09:34 AM
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SelvenluvJo
05-17-2012, 09:38 AM
I shouldn't imagine there are many Gaelic speakers in Dunblane. And even fewer in Oxshott.

Andy would get much more chance to practise his effing and jeffing if he took up Spanish. Though maybe Serbian would be less likely to be understood by most of the audience.

haha we need a thread that collects various curse words and their pronunciations from different languages.

philosophicalarf
05-17-2012, 10:01 AM
Certainly was amused Murray got a warning last round, given that big Dave was swearing constantly in Spanish all match long.

In Italy they're likely to understand the latter just as much as English too :-)

Serve&Volley01
05-17-2012, 10:55 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

Seriously I only joined MTF for a few weeks now but this guy spews out the most offensive posts out of most of the people here. :(

So the players Failspindocter hates are: all S&Vers, Murray, Federer... who else? God help you if you're a fan of those players.

out_grinder
05-17-2012, 11:20 AM
Seriously I only joined MTF for a few weeks now but this guy spews out the most offensive posts out of most of the people here. :(

So the players Failspindocter hates are: all S&Vers, Murray, Federer... who else? God help you if you're a fan of those players.

He is a fan of every player except Nadal, he's just anti-jinxing them in the hopes that they will succeed and jinxing Nadal in the hope he fails.

But anyway, English swearing should be punished, and non-English swearing should not be. I don't see the problem there.

sicko
05-17-2012, 11:23 AM
I fail to grasp the issue....swearing during a competitive sports match is so normal, everyone should do it, even kids.

ServeVolley
05-17-2012, 11:29 AM
I fail to grasp the issue....swearing during a competitive sports match is so normal, everyone should do it, even kids.

What? You'd actively encourage kids to swear while playing sports? :cuckoo:

sicko
05-17-2012, 11:31 AM
What? You'd actively encourage kids to swear while playing sports? :cuckoo:

what's bad about swearing? pls explain.

bjurra
05-17-2012, 11:32 AM
Chair umpires should obviously hand out warnings for swearing in Spanish, German, French, not only English. Chinese and Japanese might be more difficult...

Until then, I suggest Murray should swear in Swedish. Fittskalle!

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 11:33 AM
IMO players should be punished for excessive swearing, but with fines. They should never be in danger of losing points in a match because of that. Same goes for racket abuse.

bjurra
05-17-2012, 11:34 AM
what's bad about swearing? pls explain.

I don't give a f&%k about people swearing but many are offended, it seems.

ServeVolley
05-17-2012, 11:38 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

This is probably the only time I'll ever say this, but... I agree with you. It's a vulgar habit which people fall into when they can't properly communicate themselves, and in Murray's case has contributed to him losing numerous times.

None of the Top 3 swear during matches, which is quite significant because, unlike the slamless Murray, they are able to keep their emotions in check so that they don't give the opponent the impression that they're struggling. Moral issues aside, it's totally counterproductive because it gives the other player extra confidence.

StevoTG
05-17-2012, 11:41 AM
This is probably the only time I'll ever say this, but... I agree with you. It's a vulgar habit which people fall into when they can't properly communicate themselves, and in Murray's case has contributed to him losing numerous times.

None of the Top 3 swear during matches, which is quite significant because, unlike the slamless Murray, they are able to keep their emotions in check so that they don't give the opponent the impression that they're struggling. Moral issues aside, it's totally counterproductive because it gives the other player extra confidence.

Nadal and Djokovic do swear on court.

bjurra
05-17-2012, 11:44 AM
Djokovic keeping his emotions in check? That was news to me...

Federer has an image to uphold, of course he doesn't swear.

Swearing doesn't mean you are a poor communicator. But it should be reserved for the really angry moments.

ServeVolley
05-17-2012, 11:45 AM
what's bad about swearing? pls explain.

If you don't know that then your worldview is so drastically different from my own that you'd never accept my answer... So frankly, I'm not going to attempt one.

timafi
05-17-2012, 11:48 AM
get a grip Andy and channel your anger and frustration better.Okay :rolleyes:

ServeVolley
05-17-2012, 11:50 AM
Nadal and Djokovic do swear on court.

Not that I've seen, which means it must be very rarely. :shrug:

martyn
05-17-2012, 11:52 AM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.

Oh look, topspindoctor the first person to reply to a Murray thread yet again. Massive secret fan, get out of that closet son.

Raiden
05-17-2012, 12:31 PM
Why doesn't he curse in native Scots-english or Gaelic?

That will solve his problem of lacking a disguise instantly :p

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 03:14 PM
Nadal and Djokovic do swear on court.

And Federer does too and very vehemently. I don't imagine Novak and Rafa telling that to an umpire. ;)

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GOAT = Fed
05-17-2012, 03:19 PM
And Federer does too and very vehemently. I don't imagine Novak and Rafa telling that to an umpire. ;)

d69yqSr3do8

Hmmm there seems to be a strong nole fan's post content to Federer dislike ratio.

Anyway, this is like only one of the many few times where Federer has burst out in his career, we have to realise that everyone is human and in the heat of the moment, emotion can overcome us. Yes it is wrong that he did what he did, no doubt, and he rightfully got fined for it. These were scenes you don't want to see on a tennis court. In regards to your Nadal would never do this, well, Nadal has had quite a few 'ugly' encounters with referees about umpiring decisions too.

Li Ching Yuen
05-17-2012, 03:26 PM
Murray: "it's impossible to see the ball in this shit"

Referring to the court being covered by long shadows in his match against Gasquet. Pretty damn audible too. :lol:
I'm starting to like this guy more.

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 03:34 PM
Hmmm there seems to be a strong nole fan's post content to Federer dislike ratio.

Anyway, this is like only one of the many few times where Federer has burst out in his career, we have to realise that everyone is human and in the heat of the moment, emotion can overcome us. Yes it is wrong that he did what he did, no doubt, and he rightfully got fined for it. These were scenes you don't want to see on a tennis court. In regards to your Nadal would never do this, well, Nadal has had quite a few 'ugly' encounters with referees about umpiring decisions too.

Sorry, but I don't imagine rafa telling an umpire "Don't tell me to be quiet, ok? I don't give a shit what he said".

It's true Federer does swear and show his emotions much less than Rafa and Novak on court, but he's not the poster boy for correctness, he's got his outbursts in the past and his signs of arrogance on court (the shut up to the djokovic clan, the waiving finger, etc.). I'm fed up with this image they're trying to sell us of Federer as the perfect gentleman. He's just a cold person, doesn't mean he's better than the rest.

dencod16
05-17-2012, 03:40 PM
I dont know if this is true what Murray said. I sort of remember when a player (i think its zvonareva) but im sure its from WTA was accused of cursing and she said "DId you hear me say a curse" and the umpire said "i read your lips", and she said what did i say exactly and umpire said i cant say and the umpire said it was in english but didnt really know what it was, But Zvonareva was ranting in Russian.

GOAT = Fed
05-17-2012, 03:42 PM
Sorry, but I don't imagine rafa telling an umpire "Don't tell me to be quiet, ok? I don't give a shit what he said".

I'd say he did something much worse; threatened to boycott his match at the WTF (And Wimbledon as well I think, but I'm not fully sure)

It's true Federer does swear and show his emotions much less than Rafa and Novak on court, but he's not the poster boy for correctness, he's got his outbursts in the past and his signs of arrogance on court (the shut up to the djokovic clan, the waiving finger, etc.).
Well firstly, the Djokovic clan were talking a lot of crap about Federer for no reason apart from the fact that their son beat him. It's extremely rude the remarks that they were making and in this sense I can empathise with Federer in this, although yes it would be preferable if he didn't say anything and let his tennis do the talking. I personally find nothing wrong with the finger wag, it actually is a good sign and shows that he is still passionate about his tennis.

I'm fed up with this image they're trying to sell us of Federer as the perfect gentleman. He's just a cold person, doesn't mean he's better than the rest.
Well, sure, that's your opinion :shrug:

I'm pretty sure everyone has different opinions on every player. I personally find nothing bad about Djokovic's celebrations during matches but some people hate him for it very much. :shrug:

paseo
05-17-2012, 03:44 PM
Sorry, but I don't imagine rafa telling an umpire "Don't tell me to be quiet, ok? I don't give a shit what he said".

It's true Federer does swear and show his emotions much less than Rafa and Novak on court, but he's not the poster boy for correctness, he's got his outbursts in the past and his signs of arrogance on court (the shut up to the djokovic clan, the waiving finger, etc.). I'm fed up with this image they're trying to sell us of Federer as the perfect gentleman. He's just a cold person, doesn't mean he's better than the rest.

lol, of course he's not perfect. But, Fed on court behavior is much, much better than Nadal and Djokovic. Your examples are actually proof of this. Fed haters use your examples all the time because they, and you, have nothing else aside from these isolated incidences. Nadal and Djokovic on the other hand, are being pricks on court almost all the time. Just watch several of their matches, and everyone can see it.

In interviews on the other hand, it's the opposite. Nadal and Djokovic are gracious and humble most of the time, while Fed is sour and somewhat arrogant.

bjurra
05-17-2012, 03:45 PM
I dont know if this is true what Murray said. I sort of remember when a player (i think its zvonareva) but im sure its from WTA was accused of cursing and she said "DId you hear me say a curse" and the umpire said "i read your lips", and she said what did i say exactly and umpire said i cant say and the umpire said it was in english but didnt really know what it was, But Zvonareva was ranting in Russian.

Of course it is true. Umpires are instructed to penalize cursing in any language but very few actually bother listening for cursing in languages that are not their mother tounge. Your Vera example is an exception to the rule.

EnriqueIG8
05-17-2012, 03:55 PM
Spanish players get punished too if they take it too far :shrug:


Although Pics was absolutely bad ass here :lol:


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Slice Winner
05-17-2012, 04:08 PM
NID that this thread became about Federer.
The haters can't deal with the fact that he's much better behaved than most of the other top guys.

dazed1
05-17-2012, 04:12 PM
No, it doesn't. But I am not #4 tennis player in the world playing on the world stage. I am just a forum Troll.



Fixed.

Johnny Groove
05-17-2012, 04:16 PM
Parents looking for a nice environment to take their kids with no bad words or bad things shouldn't be going to a sporting event.

That's like going to a casino looking for a confession booth.

cardio
05-17-2012, 04:58 PM
Spanish players get punished too if they take it too far :shrug:


Although Pics was absolutely bad ass here :lol:


A1t73pCctTQ
It is hilarious ! I know what merde means, but
what did Ferrer say after warning about "chicas" ?

BauerAlmeida
05-17-2012, 05:01 PM
Players shouldn't be fine for swearing. It's normal as long as they are talking to their selves and not insulting the opponent/umpire, etc.

In a football stadium there are 50 thousand people swearing and parents take they're kids to watch it anyway, that excuse is bullshit.

EnriqueIG8
05-17-2012, 05:06 PM
It is hilarious ! I know what merde means, but
what did Ferrer say after warning about "chicas" ?

After why did you warn me now?

He said: "It is normal, you are a woman" "Women can't do anything (right), anything at all."

out_grinder
05-17-2012, 05:18 PM
Sorry, but I don't imagine rafa telling an umpire "Don't tell me to be quiet, ok? I don't give a shit what he said".

It's true Federer does swear and show his emotions much less than Rafa and Novak on court, but he's not the poster boy for correctness, he's got his outbursts in the past and his signs of arrogance on court (the shut up to the djokovic clan, the waiving finger, etc.). I'm fed up with this image they're trying to sell us of Federer as the perfect gentleman. He's just a cold person, doesn't mean he's better than the rest.

I wonder how much your boy has done for charity compared to the cold, mean, heartless, miserly Olderer?

EnriqueIG8
05-17-2012, 05:21 PM
Sorry, but I don't imagine rafa telling an umpire "Don't tell me to be quiet, ok? I don't give a shit what he said".

It's true Federer does swear and show his emotions much less than Rafa and Novak on court, but he's not the poster boy for correctness, he's got his outbursts in the past and his signs of arrogance on court (the shut up to the djokovic clan, the waiving finger, etc.). I'm fed up with this image they're trying to sell us of Federer as the perfect gentleman. He's just a cold person, doesn't mean he's better than the rest.

Fed was absolutely right on that call. delPo was taking at least 10 seconds to challenge the entire time so he can say something about that.

Of course he isn't always correct, just check his outburst with the racket against Djoko in Miami but Roger is definately not a cold person and if there is/was someone who portrayed arrogance it's your boy, dear ;)

I mean T Shirts with your own face on it? :facepalm:

Sapeod
05-17-2012, 05:31 PM
Pushray shouldn't be making these excuses. He's a hooligan, simple as that. Nobody should tolerate his foul mouth on courts as there are people with kids present.

Umpires should grow a spine and start giving this classless clown point penalties every time he swears. I bet that would make him stop in a hurry.

You can't buy class and Pushray proved he doesn't have any. Bad image for tennis.
You're whining about foul language when your favourite is a cheating disgrace to the sport. Oh, irony.
Tennis is a gentleman's sport.
Nadal and Djokovic (cheaters), all of the fixers, Fish and Roddick (angry Americans), Murray (swears a bit), Tomic (twat) etc. all prove otherwise.

Tennis is a gentleman's sport? :haha: Please, nowadays it isn't :haha:

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 05:37 PM
That's true, unfortunately. Fed's was the last generation of tennis gentlemen.

Arkulari
05-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Well Natalia that, I'm sorry to tell you, goes for the rest of Spain too. It's not only the basques who speak like that. It's very usual to call your friend cabrón or maricón. :shrug:

Duh of course, Basques just do it better, like everything else :p :lol:

Arkulari
05-17-2012, 05:47 PM
Rafa has tried to retire a couple of times, saying that he didn't want to play under these rules...

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It's not as if he never fights with the umpire :lol:

tangerine_dream
05-17-2012, 05:52 PM
Everybody should learn to curse in Serbian. The shit that flies out of Novak's mouth would make the umpire's ears bleed if they knew what he was saying.

cardio
05-17-2012, 08:13 PM
I think little swearing and cursing are spice of tennis, nothing wrong with that . But only little. If it comes too common, if there is too much of it, it would be disgusting. Luckily tennis players behave lot better than football players. I never saw tennis player spit on his opponent right on the face, I never saw tennis player physically hit another player, like it happens quite often in football or in hockey. Most of tennis players frustration/ anger are directed to themselves or to umpire/ linesmen.Hardly ever towards opponent.

MuzzahLovah
05-17-2012, 08:36 PM
Sharkko swears all the time in matches.

Murray should learn another language if he wants to swear that bad.

He can speak Spanish, that's why he understood what Nalbandian was saying. You usually swear in your native language.

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 08:56 PM
I wonder how much your boy has done for charity compared to the cold, mean, heartless, miserly Olderer?

A lot if you took the time to investigate. He has his own foundation for children in Serbia amongst other things. :rolleyes:
Inform yourself man before you look like a clown.

lidal
05-17-2012, 09:07 PM
Everybody should learn to curse in Serbian. The shit that flies out of Novak's mouth would make the umpire's ears bleed if they knew what he was saying.

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Novak was saying basically same thing to some moron in the crowd... as Roger said once (twice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTDgRaEEtYI ;) ) - be quiet! ... Maybe choice of words wasn't that great :p :lol:

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 09:34 PM
R-wHvu_CWak

Novak was saying basically same thing to some moron in the crowd... as Roger said once (twice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTDgRaEEtYI ;) ) - be quiet! ... Maybe choice of words wasn't that great :p :lol:

Classless Serb, what a surprise.

sicko
05-17-2012, 09:36 PM
Classless Serb, what a surprise.

better classless than racist, moron.

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 09:38 PM
better classless than racist, moron.

What is that supposed to mean?

lidal
05-17-2012, 09:46 PM
Classless Serb, what a surprise.

Racist Pole, what a surprise? ;) :rolleyes:

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 09:46 PM
Racist Pole, what a surprise? ;) :rolleyes:

You don't know what racism is moron.

sicko
05-17-2012, 09:47 PM
What is that supposed to mean?

means that only morons like u refer to the nationality of people.

JoWillyTso
05-17-2012, 09:48 PM
That's not racism. LMAO :L

MTF makes me laugh.

''Serbian prick'' would be an example of racism.

lidal
05-17-2012, 09:53 PM
means that only morons like u refer to the nationality of people.

:worship:

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 10:01 PM
means that only morons like u refer to the nationality of people.

You don't understand the words, that you're using, therefore everything you say is irrelevant. :wavey:

sicko
05-17-2012, 10:12 PM
You don't understand the words, that you're using, therefore everything you say is irrelevant. :wavey:

why is it that every racist goes into the details of semantics?

whatever you call it, you showed contempt for a specific group of people that don't have the option to be in or out out of this group.

therefore you seem to be an asshole, why hide it?:wavey:

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 10:24 PM
why is it that every racist goes into the details of semantics?

whatever you call it, you showed contempt for a specific group of people that don't have the option to be in or out out of this group.

therefore you seem to be an asshole, why hide it?:wavey:

Only stating the facts, deal with it.

Rita
05-17-2012, 10:25 PM
A lot if you took the time to investigate. He has his own foundation for children in Serbia amongst other things. :rolleyes:
Inform yourself man before you look like a clown.

Maybe you should also inform yourself.
Not showing emotions on court during a match does not equal being cold.

Nole fan
05-17-2012, 10:27 PM
Maybe you should also inform yourself.
Not showing emotions on court during a match does not equal being cold.

Oh really? :rolleyes:

Slice Winner
05-17-2012, 10:27 PM
R-wHvu_CWak

Novak was saying basically same thing to some moron in the crowd... as Roger said once (twice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTDgRaEEtYI ;) ) - be quiet! ... Maybe choice of words wasn't that great :p :lol:

Sorry, I fell asleep after the 24 ball bounces.

Rita
05-17-2012, 10:28 PM
Oh really? :rolleyes:

You didn't know? :spit:

Glad I informed you then.

JanKowalski
05-17-2012, 10:30 PM
Oh really? :rolleyes:

You're not the brightest person, aren't you?

Johnny Groove
05-18-2012, 02:03 AM
Fed's dropped a few F bombs in his day, shit almost all the time, merde, in french.

Rafa says puta after missed shots at times.

Alex999
05-18-2012, 07:07 AM
big deal, they all swear. I do too when I get pissed (at work)... I usually use F word, but when I'm controlling myself I say 'shoot', lol ...

tripwires
05-18-2012, 07:16 AM
I skip past the polite "shit" and go straight to "fuck" almost every single time.

Arkulari
05-18-2012, 07:25 AM
You people would be surprised at how creative I can be swearing in Spanish and Euskera :haha: