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CH Bordeaux R2: Matosevic def. Serra 6-0 6-1

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 10:56 AM
Damn.

Florent got destroyed at home by this mediocre hardcourter. Very sad result. He didn't even play terribly badly in the second set, he was in several games, however, Matosevic was completely all over him in rallies and Florent made so many errors. Just very sad result overall. Now, Florent will have to hope for an RG WC, but it may not come for him.

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 10:56 AM
Bad one Marinko letting Serra win a game.

Dedicated to flyboy this win.

CooCooCachoo
05-16-2012, 10:57 AM
This result says more about Ilhan and how far he's going down as a player. Matosevic going from clay, to hard last week, back to clay this week and getting the win here is impressive. But his run at this event should end here.

Couldn't have been more wrong :lol:

Abysmal showing from Serra. Definitely should not be in the running for a RG WC with that performance.

Adri89
05-16-2012, 10:57 AM
Serra used to be good in Bordeaux...

Thanos
05-16-2012, 10:58 AM
matosevic won't stop destroying filov favourite players :sport:.

VIPer7
05-16-2012, 10:59 AM
what was the best ranking that a player had when a Grand Slam tournament started which he was not qualified for?
Matosevic is ranked around #87 now, will climb up to around #66 if he wins the Bordeaux title :eek:

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 11:00 AM
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Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:00 AM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:

The hypocrisy is hilarious. The result is obviously a horrible one for the game, but the hypocrisy from posters on this forum actually makes me laugh and sort of takes the pain away from this result.

Topspindoctor
05-16-2012, 11:03 AM
Only a clown of the highest order gets bageled by a journeyman like Mugtosevic. Not surprisingly Serra fits exactly into that category.

Machiavelli
05-16-2012, 11:04 AM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:

The hypocrisy is hilarious. The result is obviously a horrible one for the game, but the hypocrisy from posters on this forum actually makes me laugh and sort of takes the pain away from this result.

your simpaticos Clement and Serra for instance are not douche-bags? Marinko maybe cocky sometimes, but he is up.front with it and does not hide from anyone, everything he achieved he did it by himself; you got to appreciate him for the work ethics, attitude and how much he achieved;

It seems another Dodig like career coming up thanks to flyboys jinxing and constant bashing, got to love it....

Li Ching Yuen
05-16-2012, 11:05 AM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:

The hypocrisy is hilarious. The result is obviously a horrible one for the game, but the hypocrisy from posters on this forum actually makes me laugh and sort of takes the pain away from this result.

Instead you should tell us more about the potential of these two players and how you see it unfolding in the future. Would love to hear your expertise on this.

J99
05-16-2012, 11:06 AM
Marinko served awesome today, played probably one of his best matches ever, Serra on the other hand was utter crap, going 0/15 on 2nd serve PTS, 55% 1st serve PTS won, 0/5 on BP's saved.

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 11:07 AM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:

The hypocrisy is hilarious. The result is obviously a horrible one for the game, but the hypocrisy from posters on this forum actually makes me laugh and sort of takes the pain away from this result.

No your hypocrisy is hilarious and you don't need me to highlight the 100 examples of it that's right.

Matosevic doesn't pretend to be a nice guy, but honesty is only ok when it's someone you like. Clement picks on ballkids, Serra got into arguments with spectators after the match and Volandri has been involved in some questionable activities.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:13 AM
your simpaticos Clement and Serra for instance are not douche-bags? Marinko maybe cocky sometimes, but he is up.front with it and does not hide from anyone, everything he achieved he did it by himself; you got to appreciate him for the work ethics, attitude and how much he achieved;

It seems another Dodig like career coming up thanks to flyboys jinxing and constant bashing, got to love it....

I was right about Dodig. I never trashed him, I've always liked Dodig. He has good character, unlike Matosevic. He just lacks talent. And as we have seen the past 12 months, he's done essentially nothing after beating Rafa in Montreal.

I digress, the whole "he's upfront about it" bullshit is just that, people on this forum RAIL against other players for doing the SAME shit Matosevic does constantly. The rail against players for being ballbashers, when Matosevic plays virtually the same exact game as these same players.

I know about his life story but he's a douchebag. Most guys on tour have had to work to get where they are. That doesn't make someone a good person nor a good player.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:18 AM
No your hypocrisy is hilarious and you don't need me to highlight the 100 examples of it that's right.

Matosevic doesn't pretend to be a nice guy, but honesty is only ok when it's someone you like.
First of all, basically every trashing you can give one of my favorites, Matosevic has already done. Secondly, if you dislike these players for their antics and don't dislike Matosevic for the same antics, you're a hypocrite. That's all it comes down to, so just stop trying to justify it. And don't say I'm whining, either, because I literally have a smile on my face. Blatant hypocrisy is always a joy to watch. You are a hypocrite, and you support players who do negative shit while railing on the same negative shit from other players.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:20 AM
And yes, I admit I am a hypocrite on some things, but that's the thing, I can admit my hypocrisy. Will anyone else here regarding Matosevic? No.

Keep supporting the douche, though and praying he can make a career for himself while he loses to plays like Gallardo-Valles.

Machiavelli
05-16-2012, 11:21 AM
I was right about Dodig. I never trashed him, I've always liked Dodig. He has good character, unlike Matosevic. He just lacks talent. And as we have seen the past 12 months, he's done essentially nothing after beating Rafa in Montreal.

I digress, the whole "he's upfront about it" bullshit is just that, people on this forum RAIL against other players for doing the SAME shit Matosevic does constantly. The rail against players for being ballbashers, when Matosevic plays virtually the same exact game as these same players.

I know about his life story but he's a douchebag. Most guys on tour have had to work to get where they are. That doesn't make someone a good person nor a good player.

Clement isn't a douche bag? Can't get a better example for a cocky french mofo; abusing ballkids, referees, other players on court etc. Same goes for Serra; i fail to see in what kind of category related to tennis Serra should have the upper hand compared to Matosevic, especially in the present; you talk about a Serra from what period, 2005? 2006?

Did I say Matosevic does not like to bash the ball? No I did not; Did I say he ain't cocky, or aggressive or that he does not play mid games? No I did not;

In my book Ruben, Machado and Volandri are mediocre players, cheaters and fixers (Volandri), CH players at their best (RRH and Machado); but you don't see people bashing them, if they do it then just to mess up with you flyboy, because being as irritating as shit as a poster you make certain player unlikable, Hajek another one to mention; grow some balls and stop being a sissy and the majority of posters will treat you with respect

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:27 AM
Florent was a top 100 player for like seven years. He's been competitive in matches like guys like Djokovic and Federer. Matosevic couldn't dream of reaching that. So let's not forget any of that. Florent at his best is a level above anything Matosevic has ever accomplished.

Ad Wim
05-16-2012, 11:28 AM
One of the most hilarious results of the year, thanks to flyboy.

That he dislikes Matosevic a la, but that he keeps ignoring his good run...

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 11:32 AM
Matosevic QF Munich as a qualie, winning hardcourt Athens Chall, and QF here. He's getting the results at the moment and irritating flyboy in the process.

Machi explained it clearly.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:32 AM
Clement is pretty universally liked on tour. He has had his bad moments, but he's not consistently an asshole. And then "yeah, I am a douchebag and I know it's what I'm known for, I love it, you don't like it fuck you". Matosevic is honestly gross. What he represents is disgusting. And people on this forum like him, anyway, while trashing different players for the same thing. THAT is the hypocrisy.

As for what others here say, I clearly don't give a damn or I would be more PC. I'm going to say what I want to say, handle it or not, that's the choice of everyone else.

RRH has been and is a more accomplished player than Matosevic. 2 challenger titles, a challenger final. At 34 years old. He's done things Matosevic has not and likely will not do. Let's get real. And people BASH all of these guys, irrespective of what I think. People here are bullshitters, inconsistent, hypocritical and then act as if what they say matters or should be respected. No.

Matosevic is not a good person and is a worse player than every other player mentioned here. That's simply how it is, and people here are hypocrites.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:36 AM
The highest ranked player Matosevic has beaten on this "run" (not even a run since he lost four straight R1s before Munich) is #75 Sela, in a horrible match. Beat one top 200 player last week. Beat one guy top 200 in Munich and was beaten pretty easily by Kohlschreiber.

People can remain delusional. I'm done with the topic, it's boring me now. You people are hypocrites, so stop worrying about what I say if you don't respect or like it, I don't respect or like what ya'll have to say.

J99
05-16-2012, 11:36 AM
Clement is pretty universally liked on tour. He has had his bad moments, but he's not consistently an asshole. And then "yeah, I am a douchebag and I know it's what I'm known for, I love it, you don't like it fuck you". Matosevic is honestly gross. What he represents is disgusting. And people on this forum like him, anyway, while trashing different players for the same thing. THAT is the hypocrisy.

As for what others here say, I clearly don't give a damn or I would be more PC. I'm going to say what I want to say, handle it or not, that's the choice of everyone else.

RRH has been and is a more accomplished player than Matosevic. 2 challenger titles, a challenger final. At 34 years old. He's done things Matosevic has not and likely will not do. Let's get real. And people BASH all of these guys, irrespective of what I think. People here are bullshitters, inconsistent, hypocritical and then act as if what they say matters or should be respected. No.

Matosevic is not a good person and is a worse player than every other player mentioned here. That's simply how it is, and people here are hypocrites.

What should be done in all cases is to seperate the person from their tennis, it doesn't matter if you like or dislike a player for who they are off the court, what matters is how they play on it.

Topspindoctor
05-16-2012, 11:42 AM
FiloV surely gets riled about about some journeyman being an asshole when most of his favs are fixers :o

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 11:43 AM
As for what others here say, I clearly don't give a damn or I would be more PC. I'm going to say what I want to say, handle it or not, that's the choice of everyone else.

Then why are you getting so worked up if you don't give a damn. The hissy fits and feet stamping like antics. No, you can't dish out rubbish and not expect it to come back.

6-0 6-1 is clear enough.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:48 AM
Then why are you getting so worked up if you don't give a damn. The hissy fits and feet stamping like antics. No, you can't dish out rubbish and not expect it to come back.

6-0 6-1 is clear enough.I'm not really getting worked up. The hypocrisy of people on this forum amazes me. But I realized long ago most people here know nothing about tennis anyway, so it doesn't really matter, and I shouldn't care so much about the hypocrisy. I don't care what others have to say because I do view people here as two-faced and as bullshitters, plus I don't know any of you personally.

Keep being a hypocrite and acting like your shit it totally clean, AJ. I really am bored of it all.

Filo V.
05-16-2012, 11:50 AM
FiloV surely gets riled about about some journeyman being an asshole when most of his favs are fixers :o

Says the poster who has zero tennis intellect. Go back to calling players mugs, it's all you do well.

With that, I'm done in this thread, but you all can keep talking about me as per usual :wavey:

Topspindoctor
05-16-2012, 11:52 AM
I thought you put me on ignore 3-4 times by now? :haha:

motorhead
05-16-2012, 11:56 AM
I know Marinko in person, we use to take a beer after the matches when we are in the same city. he's not a douche guys!

CooCooCachoo
05-16-2012, 11:57 AM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:

The hypocrisy is hilarious. The result is obviously a horrible one for the game, but the hypocrisy from posters on this forum actually makes me laugh and sort of takes the pain away from this result.

I genuinely prefer Serra over Matosevic, but I don't think tennis loses much from Serra not winning matches or being in the Top 100. He's fun to watch, but he's filler.

Adri89
05-16-2012, 11:57 AM
Matosevic is a mediocre player and a racist douchebag. Filo V is right on this one. He has the best weeks of his career this year but I don't see him much higher in the ranking in the future(he is not top 50 material).
Serra was a better player some years ago (but clearly doesn't deserve a WC for RG this year). All these points are valids.

Action Jackson
05-16-2012, 11:58 AM
what was the best ranking that a player had when a Grand Slam tournament started which he was not qualified for?
Matosevic is ranked around #87 now, will climb up to around #66 if he wins the Bordeaux title :eek:

Dolgopolov was #56 when he played his 1st Grand Slam.

james82
05-16-2012, 12:05 PM
i dont get the hate for mato,some people on these boards seem to think they know him and know hes a bad guy

james82
05-16-2012, 12:07 PM
Matosevic is a mediocre player and a racist douchebag. Filo V is right on this one. He has the best weeks of his career this year but I don't see him much higher in the ranking in the future(he is not top 50 material).
Serra was a better player some years ago (but clearly doesn't deserve a WC for RG this year). All these points are valids.

a racist? can u give me a link where he was accused of being a racist?

n8
05-16-2012, 12:59 PM
what was the best ranking that a player had when a Grand Slam tournament started which he was not qualified for?
Matosevic is ranked around #87 now, will climb up to around #66 if he wins the Bordeaux title :eek:

Good question. I don't know. It was funny in 2008 when Del Potro was top 25 but didn't make the entry cut-off for Canada and Cincinnati masters.

grimilan
05-16-2012, 01:44 PM
The highest ranked player Matosevic has beaten on this "run" (not even a run since he lost four straight R1s before Munich) is #75 Sela, in a horrible match. Beat one top 200 player last week. Beat one guy top 200 in Munich and was beaten pretty easily by Kohlschreiber.

People can remain delusional. I'm done with the topic, it's boring me now. You people are hypocrites, so stop worrying about what I say if you don't respect or like it, I don't respect or like what ya'll have to say.

#35 Bogomolov, #41 Karlovic and #54 Kukushkin don't count as being higher than Sela?

viruzzz
05-16-2012, 01:48 PM
Come oooon! Aussie power.
Make dat azz krap.

Hian-GOAT
05-16-2012, 01:53 PM
Benoit :spit:

maratness
05-16-2012, 04:03 PM
Filo V i dont understand why you talk about Matosevic loss to Gallarado -Valles when you a clueless about the circumstances you loser,he flew from davis cup on monday and got to mexico monday night and was first on tuesday or wednesday at 2KM altitude(he only played to try make french cut).]
Hes only an asshoel to Young(nobody likes Young on tour).
Where did the racist thing coem from he went to one of the most multicultural schools in melbourne and he often hangs out with Phil Simmonds who is black.
You know nothing about tennis all you do is watch scores tick over on your PC

scarecrows
05-16-2012, 04:05 PM
Matosevic is a complete douchebag with awful on-court antics and an obnoxious grunt and so many here likes him :lol:


this makes him 10 ten more enjoyable than Serra

great win for tennis

fast_clay
05-16-2012, 05:04 PM
Whoa...whats this here...?

Yep...smell's like a bakery alright

rhinooooo
05-16-2012, 05:49 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_We252-O13Hg/S40swSqYvYI/AAAAAAAAM-Q/XrmCAsld5Vc/s400/Annecy+Bakery+4.jpg

Tremendous result for humanity.

JamieMU30
05-16-2012, 07:05 PM
What should be done in all cases is to seperate the person from their tennis, it doesn't matter if you like or dislike a player for who they are off the court, what matters is how they play on it.

Good point. He acts like he knows these players and everything they do in their personal lives. Just because you follow scores, doesn't mean you know a player. His tennis "knowledge" is questionable and following scores doesn't mean you know anything about tennis. Why isn't he on the ATP rankings? Does he own a tennis academy? Does he coach tennis on any level? Give me a break. He is really good at using isolated incidents to make gross generalizations about players, their games, their attitudes, etc. If you asked any of these players who he was, they would have no clue. None of us know these players personally and have been around them enough to characterize their personalities as this or that. He uses negative incidents regarding players to bash them and justify his "truths" which in reality are nothing more than misinformed, hypocritical, and illogical opinions. He can't even give credit to players who play well on a given day. A negative attention-seeking person desperate for some notoriety, on MTF of all places. Sad life. :wavey:

gators0708
05-16-2012, 08:14 PM
I met him in Delray Beach he seemed the complete opposite of how most people are saying here!

VIPer7
05-17-2012, 11:44 AM
Dolgopolov was #56 when he played his 1st Grand Slam.

Yeah but Dolgo was directly qualified for French Open 2010, because he entered the Top 100 before the entry deadline.

It could happen that Matosevic rises up to #66 but fails to qualify for the French Open. So my question was if that would be a new record or if there has ever been a higher ranked player who did *not* qualify for a Grand Slam tournament.