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Dimitar Kutrovsky (#347) banned for doping

Kat_YYZ
05-16-2012, 03:36 AM
Kind of odd that no one already posted this. :confused:
Anyone know anything about this guy? Why'd he get 2 years when Kendrick and Odesnik got 1? (same substance as Kendrick and same excuse -- 'I didn't know it was there')

DECISION IN THE CASE OF DIMITAR KUTROVSKY
by Press Release | 15.05.2012

The International Tennis Federation announced today that Dimitar Kutrovsky has been found to have committed an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Article 2.1 of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme (presence of a Prohibited Substance in playerís sample).

Mr Kutrovsky, a 24-year-old tennis player from Bulgaria, provided a sample on 14 February 2012 at the SAP Open held in San Jose, United States. That sample was sent to the WADA-accredited laboratory in Montreal, Canada for analysis, and was found to contain methylhexaneamine, a stimulant. Methylhexaneamine is a Prohibited Substance under section S6 of the 2012 WADA List of Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods, and is therefore also prohibited under the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme (TADP). Mr Kutrovsky was therefore charged with an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Article 2.1 of the Programme.

Mr Kutrovsky asserted that the methylhexaneamine, for which he did not hold a valid therapeutic use exemption, had got into his system through his ingestion of the supplement Jack3d. He denied any intent to enhance his performance as a result of taking the Jack3d.

The ITF did not dispute Mr Kutrovskyís account of the circumstances surrounding his ingestion of methylhexaneamine, but asserted that he had not demonstrated to the required standard that he (a) did not intend to enhance his performance, and so failed to meet the requirements to satisfy article 10.4 of the TADP (Elimination or Reduction of the Period of Ineligibility for Specified Substance under Specified Circumstances), and (b) bore No Significant Fault or Negligence.

The tribunal concurred, and therefore confirmed Mr Kutrovskyís commission of an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Article 2.1 of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme, and determined that he should be suspended from participation for a period of two years, back-dated to commence from 14 February 2012 and so ending at midnight on 13 February 2014. The tribunal also determined that Mr Kutrovskyís results at the 2012 SAP Open and Brownsville Futures events should be disqualified, with resulting forfeiture of the ranking points and prize money that he won at those events.

The Tennis Anti-Doping Programme is a comprehensive and internationally recognised drug-testing programme that applies to all players competing at tournaments sanctioned by the ITF, ATP, and WTA. Players are tested for substances prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency and, upon a finding that a Doping Offence has been committed, sanctions are imposed in accordance with the requirements of the World Anti-Doping Code. More background information on the Programme, sanctions, tennis statistics and related information can be found at www.itftennis.com/antidoping.

Source: http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/05/Features/Kutrovsky-Decision.aspx

Topspindoctor
05-16-2012, 03:41 AM
Who cares? This mug could replace his blood with steroids and still not crack top 100.

156mphserve
05-16-2012, 03:41 AM
the sad thing is that money that he has to give back is greater than 1 third of his career earnings:sad:

Henry Chinaski
05-16-2012, 03:49 AM
the key difference is that the ITF and judge accepted that Kendrick didn't intend to enhance his performance. (his probably bullshit jetlag pill excuse)

They didn't accept this with Kutrovsky (who said he took the supplement after training for a "boost" the same way he would a Red Bull or Gatorade)

It's pretty ridiculous really. His lawyers must have been absolute shit to be honest.

Kendrick's testimony was absolute bullshit from start to finish and got a shorter ban.

It has to be said though, if Kutrovsky is telling the truth and the positive test resulted from taking the supplement "Jack3d" he must a complete dumbass.

Basic google search and even the company's own website will tell you you won't pass a doping test if you take it.

Case law on MHA is very mixed so there is a chance CAS will reduce the ban on appeal.

evilmindbulgaria
05-16-2012, 03:57 AM
Kind of odd that no one already posted this. :confused:
Anyone know anything about this guy? Why'd he get 2 years when Kendrick and Odesnik got 1? (same substance as Kendrick and same excuse -- 'I didn't know it was there')

He is the #2 ranked Bulgarian player after Grigor Dimitrov. An interesting thing about him is that he plays forehand and backhand with 2 hands. Besides his QF run at San Jose, he has mostly been playing in Futures, sometimes Challenger qualies and rarely Challenger main draws. Pretty sad for him, he just gained some major points(and money) from San Jose that would have allowed him to play more at the Challenger level :confused:

Also, he gave a good 4-set fight against Baghdatis in Davis Cup.

He will appeal and I hope that the ban gets reduced at least in half.

Kat_YYZ
05-16-2012, 04:33 AM
the key difference is that the ITF and judge accepted that Kendrick didn't intend to enhance his performance. (his probably bullshit jetlag pill excuse)

They didn't accept this with Kutrovsky (who said he took the supplement after training for a "boost" the same way he would a Red Bull or Gatorade)

It's pretty ridiculous really. His lawyers must have been absolute shit to be honest.

Kendrick's testimony was absolute bullshit from start to finish and got a shorter ban.

It has to be said though, if Kutrovsky is telling the truth and the positive test resulted from taking the supplement "Jack3d" he must a complete dumbass.

Basic google search and even the company's own website will tell you you won't pass a doping test if you take it.

Case law on MHA is very mixed so there is a chance CAS will reduce the ban on appeal.

:haha:
maybe that could be their tagline:
Jack3d - you won't pass a doping test if you take it :yeah:

A little Google search and I stumbled upon some angry guy's rant about it being banned in Canada
http://www.robkingfitness.com/rant/jack3d-banned/

Gosh, I do wonder what goes through the minds of athletes who either knowingly take these things or knowingly take chances.

Henry Chinaski
05-16-2012, 04:37 AM
his prediction was right. The FDA are in the process of banning it in the USA right now...

JurajCrane
05-16-2012, 04:42 AM
If they could ban Karol Beck for doping and not listening explanation, they could ban everybody

v-money
05-16-2012, 06:30 AM
:lol: this guy is going to get banned for taking some dietary supplement that you can get online for 20 dollars. I never knew it was so easy to get 'roids.

Allez
05-16-2012, 06:41 AM
I don't believe anyone ranked that low would do this intentionally. It's not like this would have vaulted him into the top 200 in the world. It must have been sheer carelessness on his part and now it's cost him 2 years. That said he'll probably make a lot more money in those two years than he ever has on the tour...

v-money
05-16-2012, 06:44 AM
At least he got his college degree. He went to Texas right?

CooCooCachoo
05-16-2012, 09:59 AM
His own fault. Can't feel sorry for him and his rather lame excuse.

Hian-GOAT
05-16-2012, 01:08 PM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll36/Bigsteve87/Gifs/ByeBitch.gif

LastRocket
05-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Another bulgarian case after Sesil Karatantcheva (WTA)
Karatantcheva was also known for testing positive on two drug tests for nandrolone; and after serving a two-year ban of playing professional tennis, she returned in 2008

Agrajag
05-16-2012, 01:25 PM
My doubts regarding the "rigorous" anti-doping work of the ATP, WTA and ITF are all gone. They are obviously doing their very best.

AndyNonomous
05-16-2012, 04:30 PM
Who cares? This mug could replace his blood with steroids and still not crack top 100.

Um, you do know that the top players use doctors/trainers specifically trained to avoid testing positive, so only the lower ranked players get caught, because they can't afford these "experts" ?

For example : Dr. Cotorro - "licensed physician for doping control" (http://www.itfcoachesconference.com/2009/node/55)

If you actually delude yourself into believeing that there aren't any top players doping, than I have a tower in Paris I want to sell you.

philosophicalarf
05-16-2012, 04:34 PM
I don't believe anyone ranked that low would do this intentionally. It's not like this would have vaulted him into the top 200 in the world.

Maybe he looked at the obvious rampant doping at the elite level and figured that's how you progress in your career.

Must be awfully tempting when you're in your early 20s, losing craploads of money, and kinda flatlining.


Interesting player though, two-handed forehand, some nice imagination in his game.

r2473
05-16-2012, 04:36 PM
Um, you do know that the top players use doctors/trainers specifically trained to avoid testing positive, so only the lower ranked players get caught, because they can't afford these "experts" ?

For example : Dr. Cotorro - "licensed physician for doping control" (http://www.itfcoachesconference.com/2009/node/55)

If you actually delude yourself into believeing that there aren't any top players doping, than I have a tower in Paris I want to sell you.

This is a good interview with Angel Heredia in "Der Spiegel" about this very thing:

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,571031,00.html

This is a post of the same article in English on Tennis Warehouse:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=412846

emotion
05-16-2012, 04:51 PM
Well, this brings that miracle run into question

emotion
05-16-2012, 04:53 PM
Um, you do know that the top players use doctors/trainers specifically trained to avoid testing positive, so only the lower ranked players get caught, because they can't afford these "experts" ?

For example : Dr. Cotorro - "licensed physician for doping control" (http://www.itfcoachesconference.com/2009/node/55)

If you actually delude yourself into believeing that there aren't any top players doping, than I have a tower in Paris I want to sell you.

I'm sure doping is verryy prevalent at top of the game

Aenea
05-16-2012, 04:58 PM
Kind of odd that no one already posted this. :confused:
Anyone know anything about this guy? Why'd he get 2 years when Kendrick and Odesnik got 1? (same substance as Kendrick and same excuse -- 'I didn't know it was there')

:lol:

why is then odd that no one has posted this about a nobody?

latso
05-16-2012, 07:29 PM
Honest mistake, pretty obvious.

This dope has over 10 names and the one on the box doesn't apear on the dope cops' list.

And i'm pretty sure he should avoid also corn dogs in the States, it must be at least as doped as this thing he took.

WADA is kinda ridiculous i thought...cutting a youngster short because of such level "doping" is really ridiculous.

Anyways, they'll slash it to less than a year, they've made their advertisement about how strict they are and the next generation of tennis players will need a chemistry degree to even think about playing tennis...blah

Henry Chinaski
05-16-2012, 10:01 PM
http://www.jack-3d.com/is-jack3d-legal

, if you are being tested under WADA standards then you would not pass due to the 1,3-Dimethylamylamine HCl in Jack3d

can't really have any sympathy for this absolute clown.

156mphserve
05-16-2012, 10:10 PM
Well, this brings that miracle run into question

Miricle run? Did you look at his draw? He beat 1 player ranked better than 393 in the world, and he beat that player through retirement.

This crap didn't help his San Jose run, he didn't have to face anyone any good and when he did he lost easily.

it's just unluckly that the one fluke run he had because of a massively simple draw was when he tested positive

philosophicalarf
05-17-2012, 10:11 AM
This is a good interview with Angel Heredia in "Der Spiegel" about this very thing:

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,571031,00.html

This is a post of the same article in English on Tennis Warehouse:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=412846


Depressing stuff.

"SPIEGEL: Is there doping at every level of athletics?

Heredia: Yes, the only difference is the quality of the doping. Athletes with little money use simple steroids and hope they donít get tested. The stars earn 50,000 dollars a month, not including starting bonuses and shoe sponsorship contracts. The very best invest 100,000 dollars Ė Iíll then build you a designer drug that canít be detected."



Yet tennis, with the most laughably weak drugtesting regime of any major sport, is supposedly completely clean?

latso
05-17-2012, 11:23 AM
http://www.jack-3d.com/is-jack3d-legal



can't really have any sympathy for this absolute clown.
He doesn't have an assistant to go through dozens and dozens of website materials about all the vitamins and stuff he gets.

He reads the text on the box and this isn't there.

2nd - do you know when this article is posted? First comment is on March 21st.

Tournament was played in February...

Clown you say? :facepalm:

Another example how a stupid post can screw a sensible at first sight guy's reputation :rolleyes:

latso
05-17-2012, 11:24 AM
Depressing stuff.

"SPIEGEL: Is there doping at every level of athletics?

Heredia: Yes, the only difference is the quality of the doping. Athletes with little money use simple steroids and hope they donít get tested. The stars earn 50,000 dollars a month, not including starting bonuses and shoe sponsorship contracts. The very best invest 100,000 dollars Ė Iíll then build you a designer drug that canít be detected."



Yet tennis, with the most laughably weak drugtesting regime of any major sport, is supposedly completely clean?

:eek:

u serious? :confused:

philosophicalarf
05-17-2012, 11:51 AM
:eek:

u serious? :confused:


I take it you haven't looked at the details of tennis dopetesting. It's insanely weak. Two of the massive number of loopholes:


*One out-of-competition test a year on average, and they need to skip three in eighteen months to get penalised. So, dope yourself silly before a slam, just give false whereabouts, literally zero chance of being caught.

*No testing on slam off days at all, so even after the longest match players can be totally fresh 2 days later. There are lots of short acting drugs nowadays which are out of their system in 12 hours, so again, zero risk of being caught.



Cycling does THIRTY times as many out of competition tests as tennis, for comparison. Now that's what a serious dopetesting regime looks like. what tennis uses is a bare minimum to tick the Wada boxes; it'll never catch any doper except the accidentals.

Sombrerero loco
05-17-2012, 02:11 PM
i know maybe this is fair, but still i am so sad every time something like that happens T_T

duchuy89
05-17-2012, 02:17 PM
Doping is not acceptable.

Agrajag
05-17-2012, 03:26 PM
This is a good interview with Angel Heredia in "Der Spiegel" about this very thing:

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,571031,00.html

This is a post of the same article in English on Tennis Warehouse:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=412846

Thank you for that wonderful link. You should post it in the dope thread or make a new thread, so more people can read it.

Henry Chinaski
05-17-2012, 03:33 PM
He doesn't have an assistant to go through dozens and dozens of website materials about all the vitamins and stuff he gets.

He reads the text on the box and this isn't there.

2nd - do you know when this article is posted? First comment is on March 21st.

Tournament was played in February...

Clown you say? :facepalm:

Another example how a stupid post can screw a sensible at first sight guy's reputation :rolleyes:

he got banned for the same stiumlant robert kendrick did.

If kendrick's suspension wasn't enough to make the players be more careful about what they take then nothing is.

There have been several high profile cases involving Jack3d. A simple google search would have told him this.

If he was in doubt he could have asked a doctor/trainer or rang one of the phone numbers players are provided with.

I agree that 2 years is a harsh ban for being dumb (Kendrick is a liar and got away with 8 months) but I can't have much sympathy for a guy who buys a bodybuilding product with a billion ingredients and doesn't bother to seek advice on it.

latso
05-18-2012, 07:14 PM
I take it you haven't looked at the details of tennis dopetesting. It's insanely weak. Two of the massive number of loopholes:


*One out-of-competition test a year on average, and they need to skip three in eighteen months to get penalised. So, dope yourself silly before a slam, just give false whereabouts, literally zero chance of being caught.

*No testing on slam off days at all, so even after the longest match players can be totally fresh 2 days later. There are lots of short acting drugs nowadays which are out of their system in 12 hours, so again, zero risk of being caught.



Cycling does THIRTY times as many out of competition tests as tennis, for comparison. Now that's what a serious dopetesting regime looks like. what tennis uses is a bare minimum to tick the Wada boxes; it'll never catch any doper except the accidentals.
Where do you get this information?

If it is once a year on average, then it's BS. But i honestly doubt, it feels like they get it once per month on average, maybe i'm wrong.

Don't they test f.e. the finalists of every major tournament or smth and a couple guys more randomly? Like from 250s up?

and btw - i don't buy these 24h cleaning out drugs, if there were such, then sports are doomed, as there's literally no chance to get caught at any sports if you want to do it.

philosophicalarf
05-19-2012, 11:26 AM
Where do you get this information?

If it is once a year on average, then it's BS. But i honestly doubt, it feels like they get it once per month on average, maybe i'm wrong.


http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/statistics.asp

Last year, the entire men's game, singles and doubles, including challengers, Davis Cup, wheelchair, etc ...... 125 out of comp tests.


In 2009 the ITF accidentally showed who was skipping tests. Number of tests for that year's top10 .....

Federer 2 (skipped 1 of them)
Nadal 2 (skipped 1 of them)
Djoko 0
Murray 2
DelPot 1 (skipped it)
Davy 2
Roddick 1 (skipped it)
Soderling 2
Verdasco 0
Tsonga 2


So, four of the top 10 had no out of comp test for a whole year (at least).

With this sort of very infrequent testing, it's quite possible to basically never get tested. When you're doping, give false whereabouts. You'd have to be pretty unlucky to rack up two missed tests - as one more would mean a ban, you'd have to stop doping until the first expired (ie be more than 18 months in the past).

Speaking of which, I know of two players who reached that stage of missing two tests. Both of them had horrendous falls in performance and ranking ....... that lasted about 18 months. Massive coincidence, no doubt.




Don't they test f.e. the finalists of every major tournament or smth and a couple guys more randomly? Like from 250s up?


They do plenty of tests in competitions, but those are useless because the players know they're coming, and thus can have nothing detectable in their systems at the times.

Also, they only test immediately after a match, so if you have a day off, you can "top up".




and btw - i don't buy these 24h cleaning out drugs, if there were such, then sports are doomed, as there's literally no chance to get caught at any sports if you want to do it.

They exist, Victor Conte and others have spilled the beans. It's perfectly possible to catch them though, you just need random testing to be possible at any time, and lots of such tests. That's how cycling does it.

ossie
05-19-2012, 11:41 AM
I take it you haven't looked at the details of tennis dopetesting. It's insanely weak. Two of the massive number of loopholes:


*One out-of-competition test a year on average, and they need to skip three in eighteen months to get penalised. So, dope yourself silly before a slam, just give false whereabouts, literally zero chance of being caught.

*No testing on slam off days at all, so even after the longest match players can be totally fresh 2 days later. There are lots of short acting drugs nowadays which are out of their system in 12 hours, so again, zero risk of being caught.



Cycling does THIRTY times as many out of competition tests as tennis, for comparison. Now that's what a serious dopetesting regime looks like. what tennis uses is a bare minimum to tick the Wada boxes; it'll never catch any doper except the accidentals.and yet literally everyone and their mother are on roids in the so called 'sport' cycling

Har-Tru
05-19-2012, 11:48 AM
and yet literally everyone and their mother are on roids in the so called 'sport' cycling

How do you know tennis isn't as dirty or even more than cycling is?

Cycling is by far the most intensely and regularly tested sport there is. In order for anyone to make an objective comparison of the cleanness of sports, every sport should be tested the same way. Then we could compare the results and draw an objective conclusion.

Har-Tru
05-19-2012, 11:53 AM
Where do you get this information?

If it is once a year on average, then it's BS. But i honestly doubt, it feels like they get it once per month on average, maybe i'm wrong.

Don't they test f.e. the finalists of every major tournament or smth and a couple guys more randomly? Like from 250s up?

and btw - i don't buy these 24h cleaning out drugs, if there were such, then sports are doomed, as there's literally no chance to get caught at any sports if you want to do it.

There is a way: surprise tests at any hour of the day, any day of the week. That is how the UCI does it in cycling, and that is how cyclists get caught.

But hey, let's just bash cycling... supposedly the only black sheep in the family. Ha!

I cringe at the idea of tennis implementing the same testing procedures as cycling. Things would blow up big time and the sport as we know it would change completely.

philosophicalarf
05-19-2012, 11:56 AM
and yet literally everyone and their mother are on roids in the so called 'sport' cycling

They were. It's being tackled though, see the performances actually getting worse in a lot of areas. Cycling found it had a doping problem, and has reacted appropriately.

By contrast, tennis does basically no testing at all, the system is that useless. They're absolutely determined not to look inside pandora's box.


Just to repeat: cycling does 30x as many out of comp tests as tennis.

latso
05-19-2012, 05:18 PM
Interesting information, thanks huys, especially philosophicalarf.

About Kutrovsky - i guess he has been tested on site, otherwise he would obviously skip the test.

Anyhow, doping in tennis must be much less than any other sport (my personal feelling) simply because the ratio technique/endurance is largely in favor of technique, compared to virtually any other sport where doping exists.

Henry Chinaski
05-19-2012, 05:25 PM
Gilles Simon is one of the players who suffered a massive loss of form after missing two tests.

Who was the other?

I can't remember now

Cloudygirl
05-19-2012, 05:40 PM
The loss of form was also at the same time that he had a bad knee injury.

PiggyGotRoasted
05-19-2012, 05:47 PM
The loss of form was also at the same time that he had a bad knee injury.

Which could of course be a cover up

emotion
05-19-2012, 06:25 PM
Gilles Simon is one of the players who suffered a massive loss of form after missing two tests.

Who was the other?

I can't remember now

Soderling I think
Nadal and Moya noticably after missing one

The most mysterious and damning thing about the documents is that Soderling got a warning for missing 2, yet is not listed as missing any.

FedererBulgaria
05-19-2012, 06:59 PM
Boooo

out_here_grindin
05-20-2012, 01:16 AM
At least he got his college degree. He went to Texas right?

Correct. Played at Texas for 4 years

Har-Tru
05-20-2012, 11:20 AM
Interesting information, thanks huys, especially philosophicalarf.

About Kutrovsky - i guess he has been tested on site, otherwise he would obviously skip the test.

Anyhow, doping in tennis must be much less than any other sport (my personal feelling) simply because the ratio technique/endurance is largely in favor of technique, compared to virtually any other sport where doping exists.

:confused: :rolleyes:

Where have you been these past years??

There is no excuse for being that tenniscentric. There are tons of other sports where endurance doesn't play as big a role as in does in tennis.

philosophicalarf
05-20-2012, 11:53 AM
Soderling I think


Wasn't him I was meaning.


To be honest though, I prefer not to speak about individuals. Just derails any form of discussion as their fans get involved.

bavaria100
05-20-2012, 12:42 PM
Anyhow, doping in tennis must be much less than any other sport (my personal feelling) simply because the ratio technique/endurance is largely in favor of technique, compared to virtually any other sport where doping exists.

No offense to you, but you are incredibly naive. The game of tennis is visibly changing right before our eyes. It's becoming more and more about fitness & endurance than about finesse & technique. But more importantly, PEDs are not only used to boost an athlete's strength and stamina, but they are also being used to aide with recovery after long matches or training sessions. They allow athletes to train longer and train harder and the psychological effect of PED's should not be underestimated either. You have a lot more confidence in yourself and your game when you are on drugs. Former 100 meter sprinter Kelly White put it quite well in an interview once: "Even when I would have a very bad start to my race, I still knew that I would cross the finish line 5 meters ahead of the others because I was on PEDs."

latso
05-20-2012, 07:56 PM
No offense to you, but you are incredibly naive. The game of tennis is visibly changing right before our eyes. It's becoming more and more about fitness & endurance than about finesse & technique. But more importantly, PEDs are not only used to boost an athlete's strength and stamina, but they are also being used to aide with recovery after long matches or training sessions. They allow athletes to train longer and train harder and the psychological effect of PED's should not be underestimated either. You have a lot more confidence in yourself and your game when you are on drugs. Former 100 meter sprinter Kelly White put it quite well in an interview once: "Even when I would have a very bad start to my race, I still knew that I would cross the finish line 5 meters ahead of the others because I was on PEDs."
Trust me, with all the drugs in the world Kutrovsky won't play a GS final and the #300 athlete would do the Olympics finals in 2 years of using them.

That's the difference.

Drugs work in cyclism, weight lifting, athletics, biathlone, swimming, etc. and much, much, muchmuch less in tennis, sailing, curling, darts, snooker, etc.

Of course it gives you a certain advantage, you train 24h a day, you recover faster, you feel more energetic at all times, yet the impact of it in tennis is 0.1% and in weight lifting 20% f.e.

So i do have enough common sense to understand that it isn't totally useless, yet i have more than enough to know that it's very overrated in men's tennis.

Much more effective in the ladies' part though.

Agrajag
05-21-2012, 12:26 AM
Trust me, with all the drugs in the world Kutrovsky won't play a GS final and the #300 athlete would do the Olympics finals in 2 years of using them.

That's the difference.

Drugs work in cyclism, weight lifting, athletics, biathlone, swimming, etc. and much, much, muchmuch less in tennis, sailing, curling, darts, snooker, etc.

Of course it gives you a certain advantage, you train 24h a day, you recover faster, you feel more energetic at all times, yet the impact of it in tennis is 0.1% and in weight lifting 20% f.e.

So i do have enough common sense to understand that it isn't totally useless, yet i have more than enough to know that it's very overrated in men's tennis.

Much more effective in the ladies' part though.


No he wouldn't. Everyone else is doped aswell, so it's still (mostly) talent and training that wins you the gold.

tangerine_dream
10-12-2012, 06:03 PM
Andy Roddick, what a jerk. :)

Court ruling shows how retiring Andy Roddick helped Bulgarian player get reduced doping ban (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/court-ruling-shows-how-retiring-andy-roddick-helped-bulgarian-player-get-reduced-doping-ban/2012/10/12/474b4c88-1482-11e2-9a39-1f5a7f6fe945_story.html)

On the day Andy Roddick announced his retirement from tennis, he helped Bulgarian player Dimitar Kutrovsky receive a reduced ban in a doping case.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport has published a ruling in Kutrovsky’s appeal that reduced his two-year ban to 15 months.

CAS says Roddick “testified about Kutrovsky’s character” by telephone with the Aug. 30 appeal hearing held in New York.

Roddick also called a news conference at Flushing Meadows that day, his 30th birthday, to say that the U.S. Open was his final tournament.

Kutrovsky tested positive in February for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine at the SAP Open in San Jose, Calif., where Roddick was the No. 2 seed.

The CAS panel accepted that the 25-year-old Bulgarian did not intend to dope with an over-the-counter energy supplement.

Freak3yman84
05-24-2013, 01:11 AM
He has returned from his ban at a Futures event in Varna, Bulgaria this week. He's in the QFs thus far.

The Prince
05-24-2013, 01:14 AM
I think a lot of people in TT didn't realise his situation. They were fooled by him being unranked, but some of us were more alert to his past. :cool:

While it's obviously not nice to see him doping, I still wish him luck in his attempted return up the rankings. :yeah:

latso
05-24-2013, 08:15 AM
6-0 6-0 and 6-0 6-3 first couple matches

solid comeback, he hasn't wasted his time

The lad has everything to be a CH player and a top 200, so GL to him