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Rome R1: Isner accepts Kohlschreiber gift 2-6, 7-6(3), 6-2

Mongoose
05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Kohlschreiber :facepalm: :facepalm:

by far the worst match Isner has played in 2012 (including Miami vs. Mayer) until Kohlschreiber refused to serve it out at 5-4 in the second :lol:

from there it was one-way traffic in the other direction

Filo V.
05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Isner wasn't all the way there the first 1.5 sets, the first set was a complete tank after being broken, didn't have his serve and wasn't moving at all. But none of this should take away from how Kohli played, which was excellently.........until he was serving for the match. Tactically smart; made Isner move corner to corner which he couldn't, served well, great returning off second serves, made about two errors in total, and hit tons of dropshots, basically all being winners.

Everything changed when Kohli served for the match at 5-4 in set two. Kohli got nervy, started making errors and being much more passive from the baseline, lost complete control of the match and never regained it. To his credit, from 5 all in set two through the rest of the match, John's serve started firing and he was dictating more rallies and being more assertive from the baseline, started coming forward more often on his own accord, but Kohli really crumbled completely. A horrible loss for Kohli, and a testament as to why he isn't a top 20 player.

Would have been easy for John to simply tank and admit defeat, but he didn't do so and as soon as he got his teeth into the match, he took over and showed good fight. Did what he had to do to win and sometimes that's all it takes.

misty1
05-14-2012, 08:59 PM
truly pathetic from kohli:o

probably one of the worst losses of his career

romismak
05-14-2012, 08:59 PM
Isner was beyond pathetic in first 1 hour, Kohli played great and than Kohli in mugschreiber mode and Isner thanks to better serving and less UE turned that match in his favour... but must say don´t expect much here from Isner he is really on clay very overrated, Rome is pretty slow red clay and anyone who can stay in rallies without making many Errors and with decent serve will knock him out of tournament

Orange Wombat
05-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Chokeschrieber. The less talented player won.
Isner had an unconfident attitude the entire match until the tiebreak. It was like he wasn't there at all.
Kohlschrieber played everything right in the first set and a half.
Poor handshake by Kohli.

STUHL
05-14-2012, 09:00 PM
He was so great until 6-2 5-3*

After that it was just so sad to see! :sad:

delpiero7
05-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Isner was horrific for the first set, put no effort in at all. Tried a bit more in the 2nd, and was aided when Kohly tightened slightly when serving for it.

Certinfy
05-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Now that's the definition of a choke.

JamieMU30
05-14-2012, 09:01 PM
Kohli....epic choke....i was even shocked at this one...horrible loss most definitely

Blue Heart24
05-14-2012, 09:02 PM
:D What an escape John.He played horrible for the most part of the first 2 sets,third set was decent though.Thanks for the choke Kohli.He is actually pretty underrated as a headcase here.He's right up there with the top headcases.
Isner will need to step his game up obviously if he wants to win more matches here.

Mark Lenders
05-14-2012, 09:02 PM
The mentally tougher player won, good for the game.

Keep winning matches, big John, and showing why you're in the top 10 :yeah:

Johnbert
05-14-2012, 09:03 PM
2 chokes in 2 weeks. great stuff kohli :help:

superandy88
05-14-2012, 09:04 PM
Worst loss of Kohli's career. Bye bye top-20. This was his chanche.

Orange Wombat
05-14-2012, 09:04 PM
I was waiting to post "Kohlschrieber wins. NID."
Because it really looked like there was no chance for Isner to win the way he was tanking.

The opportunity never came.

RonaldGomez
05-14-2012, 09:05 PM
Always fascinating to see a dominant player self-destructing when forced to conclude a match. Power of spirit.

Chris Kuerten
05-14-2012, 09:05 PM
Kohlscheisse, I'm enjoying this very much :D

shadows
05-14-2012, 09:10 PM
Kohli is dead to me.

delpiero7
05-14-2012, 09:11 PM
I still don't get how John won this one. During the first set he looked as though he didn't even want to stand up, let alone play a tennis match.

Johnny Groove
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Kohli's greatest crime wasn't how he choked away the second set, ok, that can happen. It was his no-show in the 3rd, almost content with the loss.

Ertl93
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Kohlscheisse, I'm enjoying this very much :D

You are the only shit.

delpiero7
05-14-2012, 09:14 PM
Kohlschreiber is probably throwing up in the locker room after this.

Voo de Mar
05-14-2012, 09:20 PM
Typical Isner, once he won the game from *3:5 (deuce) he was a favorite in my eyes. Players work on their own patterns, Isner escapes very often being two points away, Kohsclhreiber on the other hand loses often being two points away from a win, however he isn't prone to lose holding a match point.

Henry Chinaski
05-14-2012, 09:21 PM
i didn't see winner stats but kohli had made 2 ue's til 6-2 5-4

must have been at least 20-2 in the winner/ue count

wheels fell off when he botched a smash at 15-15.

wasn't thr easiest one you'll ever see but he got his feet all wrong and dumped it in the net.

Voo de Mar
05-14-2012, 09:26 PM
i didn't see winner stats but kohli had made 2 ue's til 6-2 5-4

must have been at least 20-2 in the winner/ue count

wheels fell off when he botched a smash at 15-15.

wasn't thr easiest one you'll ever see but he got his feet all wrong and dumped it in the net.

It was interesting situation, Kohlschreiber should have put it away, but the strength of Isner partially depends on his shot selection. I suppose in every return game not being a break down he would play a normal backhand instead of the moon-lob, similar thing occurred in the 1st game of the decider on Kohli's serve at 0-30. Kohl played too weak high-forehand volley but 90% of those volleys work against Isner (he doesn't chase them), this time he gave his best to open a chance for a triple break point and it paid dividends in the end.

nole_no1
05-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Kohli was a totally different player after the 6-2 5*-4 lead

tennishero
05-14-2012, 09:30 PM
clownshreiber strikes again

Chase Visa
05-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Chokeschreiber :facepalm:

Naudio Spanlatine
05-14-2012, 10:28 PM
What is with these people choking this year its like a disease or something, Kohli i didnt expect this from you:facepalm:

Congrats Isner.

Lee
05-14-2012, 11:26 PM
I left when Isner was down a set and a break. I thought another first round loss by Big John :mad: What a surprised when I saw the result!!!

ossie
05-14-2012, 11:43 PM
there is a special place in hell for chokers like mugschreiber

Topspindoctor
05-15-2012, 12:21 AM
Losing a set with two service breaks to Isner :o Mugschreiber should retire for his 2 fans. :o

SapELee
05-15-2012, 12:50 AM
:yeah: John, feel bad for Kohlschreiber though.

Jimnik
05-15-2012, 02:46 AM
Great comeback from the giant fighter.

J99
05-15-2012, 02:58 AM
It took all day, but we finally had a clean match, not outstanding tennis, but clean nonetheless, more winners than UE's, Kohl got in a position to win by doing a real number on Isner's serve somehow, but choked big, it was all Isner from then on, Kohl did almost nothing in the TB, Isner had an uncharacteristically low 1st serve %, maybe had trouble serving in the lights, or was at least for part of the match slightly unnerved by Kohl's returning.

samanosuke
05-15-2012, 02:59 AM
Luckily for Kohlschreiber there are guys like Cilic who can always teach him few new choking tricks

v-money
05-15-2012, 03:09 AM
Awful. Kohli is definitely the biggest choker that I continue to root for. I gave up on Troicki because of his choking and low confidence and I like Haase much less then I did early on in his career, but for some reason I keep supporting Kohlschreiber.

That was also a bit of a quick and cold handshake from Kohli, but at least he made eye contact :lol:

Mongoose
05-15-2012, 03:10 AM
It took all day, but we finally had a clean match, not outstanding tennis, but clean nonetheless, more winners than UE's, Kohl got in a position to win by doing a real number on Isner's serve somehow, but choked big, it was all Isner from then on, Kohl did almost nothing in the TB, Isner had an uncharacteristically low 1st serve %, maybe had trouble serving in the lights, or was at least for part of the match slightly unnerved by Kohl's returning.

:facepalm: :haha:

any Isner match that doesn't have way more winners than errors would have to be the biggest shitfest; I cringe at the mere thought.

J99
05-15-2012, 03:16 AM
:facepalm: :haha:

any Isner match that doesn't have way more winners than errors would have to be the biggest shitfest; I cringe at the mere thought.

Here you go then: http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/stats/day6/1157ms.html

:devil:

BroTree123
05-15-2012, 03:57 AM
Awful tanking from Isner in that first set. Should be fined. And a typical capitulation from Clownschreiber in that 2nd set.

asmazif
05-15-2012, 07:24 AM
Absolute pisstake from Kohli, Isner was clearly there for the taking and he did absolutely everything right until... surprise, surprise, he had to serve for it. Had deuce on Isner's serve at 6-2, 5-3 as well :yeah:

duong
05-15-2012, 09:05 AM
Very sad :sad:

Kohli played like a real GOD until 6-2 5*-4, he had nearly 0 unforced error and numerous winners everywhere, lovely dropshots, multiple changes of pace, against a sub-par Isner, to say the truth.

And then everything changed, you get to Isner in tie-break, who starts serving great, a bad game in the beginning of the third and it's done ... very sad :sad:

Kohli has been in great form for weeks, also played great against Monfils this year.

duong
05-15-2012, 09:06 AM
Losing a set with two service breaks to Isner :o Mugschreiber should retire for his 2 fans. :o

That happened to Fed, and I'm quite certain it can happen to Nadal on clay. It's much easier than losing 5 games in a row to Verdasco :lol:

duong
05-15-2012, 09:07 AM
more winners than UE's

even nearly twice, and the night was freezing in Roma, cold conditions, not good at all for the game, Cilic-Almagro was quite awful in these conditions.

But Kohli likes cold weather.

delpiero7
05-15-2012, 09:25 AM
Very sad :sad:

Kohli played like a real GOD until 6-2 5*-4, he had nearly 0 unforced error and numerous winners everywhere, lovely dropshots, multiple changes of pace, against a sub-par Isner, to say the truth.

And then everything changed, you get to Isner in tie-break, who starts serving great, a bad game in the beginning of the third and it's done ... very sad :sad:

Kohli has been in great form for weeks, also played great against Monfils this year.

TBF, anyone can play a 'lovely dropshot' when your opponent shows absolutely no willingness to try and return it, and is already getting ready for the next point before the ball has even crossed the net.

Once Isner started to chase down a few of Kohli's dropshots, they suddenly weren't as effective.

duong
05-15-2012, 10:26 AM
must say don´t expect much here from Isner he is really on clay very overrated, Rome is pretty slow red clay and anyone who can stay in rallies without making many Errors and with decent serve will knock him out of tournament

the conditions in the evening were very slow yesterday because it was very cold.

During the day, it's completely different and can be much better for Isner.

TBF, anyone can play a 'lovely dropshot' when your opponent shows absolutely no willingness to try and return it, and is already getting ready for the next point before the ball has even crossed the net.

Once Isner started to chase down a few of Kohli's dropshots, they suddenly weren't as effective.

Still Kohli made very good ones imo, and sometimes the effect of a drop shot comes from the surprise : he once made one on a return, the commentator asked why Isner didn't go to reach it but imo, he couldn't because doing that on the return was too surprising, it was a very good dropshot imo.

duong
05-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the choke Kohli.He is actually pretty underrated as a headcase here.He's right up there with the top headcases.

I hoped people would be more indulgent after what Nadal did last week, the greatest mental on tour blablabla ...

I can see no MTF will keep on its way of judging all by the score and/or not forgiving ANY error when it comes to serving for a match.

However, I saw nothing yesterday in Kohli's serving game that my favorite Federer (who is not the worst mental either imo) has not done several times.

duong
05-15-2012, 10:32 AM
I still don't get how John won this one.

Easy once Isner can reach a tie-break every hopes are opened, he's done it tuns of times in his carreer even playing shittier than yesterday.

With Isner or Raonic, matches usually depend on a few points, you can't judge these matches like other ones.