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Rome R1: Mayer d. Raonic 7-6(5) 6-4

Ash86
05-13-2012, 08:11 PM
Wow. Bit of shock.

Milos' returning was absymal. He won 4 first serve point out of 39 against Mayer's serve - 10%!! Compare that to Mayer winning 22% of Raonic's first serves. You can't win clay matches (real clay that is) on serve alone. And if you are going to do that you need to serve more than 8 aces.

Good result for Nadal.

Rafa is the GOAT
05-13-2012, 08:11 PM
vamos Rafa!

misty1
05-13-2012, 08:12 PM
much needed win for florian. He broke milos from 40-15 up and serve3d the match out easily

Allez
05-13-2012, 08:12 PM
Wtf ???

TennisOnWood
05-13-2012, 08:13 PM
Damn, MTF will not be happy

Pirata.
05-13-2012, 08:13 PM
Tio Toni at it again :worship:

Mark Lenders
05-13-2012, 08:13 PM
Not a big surprise. On slow surfaces, Raonic's serve loses a lot of its effectiveness and he's much easier to neutralize.

Jverweij
05-13-2012, 08:14 PM
seriously? NOW is when Mayer decides to start playing tennis? ffs...

Deathless Mortal
05-13-2012, 08:14 PM
Not surprising by itself because Funky Flo really is a bad match up for the big servers, but it's a shame that we still have to keep waiting for a Raonic-Nadal match to happen.
Flo should give Nadal a fight as well though, beat him last year.

Tennis-Life
05-13-2012, 08:14 PM
:speakles: :tape:

uncle Tony :facepalm:

sexybeast
05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
Typical, all hope is now on Berdych to do something magical against Nadal in QF.

misty1
05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
slower clay means milos's serve is less effective and therefor he wont be having the types of resluts in tournaments like rome and roland garros that he does on clay like madrid's

henke007
05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
Nadal's luck Nid

Milos:o

Ben.
05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
Toni must have fed him that dodgy fish Rafa caught yesterday.

Mystique
05-13-2012, 08:16 PM
Luckdal.

Someone had to say it
:D

Gillouthe best
05-13-2012, 08:16 PM
Flo :bowdown:, still I don't think he will pose a threat to Rafa. Funny that Flo can beat big servers even slumpng, he beated Isner & Raonic this season, his best wins.

Mark Lenders
05-13-2012, 08:16 PM
Typical, all hope is now on Berdych to do something magical against Nadal in QF.

He won't. He can't hit through Nadal on these courts.

Actually, I don't think he'll even get to Nadal, he's bound to be emotionally destroyed after missing a golden chance to win Madrid.

misty1
05-13-2012, 08:17 PM
i just dont get why everyone assumes milos would have been any kind of threat to nadal here. In barcelona and madrid for sure but not here where the clay plays like actual clay

STUHL
05-13-2012, 08:17 PM
Rome is Flo's second home, always played great here!
He will beat Rafa ;)

Mark Lenders
05-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Luckdal.

Someone had to say it
:D

Raonic wouldn't have caused any trouble to Nadal on this surface. His serve isn't nowhere near as effective on slow courts and he can't hit through the court either.

Would have been a routine win for Nadal.

alfonsojose
05-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Pocahontas happy again :lol:

Ash86
05-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Typical, all hope is now on Berdych to do something magical against Nadal in QF.

I feared that before watching today's final. Berdych is absymal in the big points. Plus this Raonic result clearly shows us that the conditions in Rome are very different to Madrid - Berdych won't have as many aces & short points - that is if he doesn't have a let down from this week anyway.

Chance for Nadal to even up the Mayer H2H - would then just need one more match against Davydenko to have even/winning records against every active player. At least clay season's been good for that.

CooCooCachoo
05-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Excellent win. Excellent loss.

:woohoo:

PiggyGotRoasted
05-13-2012, 08:19 PM
Dangerous player loses or has an amazingly long match and is so tired the match before playing nadal. NID

ZaZoo)
05-13-2012, 08:20 PM
NID, everyone posing a threat for piggy in his draw is doomed.

EddieNero
05-13-2012, 08:20 PM
NID knowing Raonic was drawn into Nadal's section.

Deathless Mortal
05-13-2012, 08:22 PM
Rome is Flo's second home, always played great here!
He will beat Rafa ;)

Actually, he only won 3 matches here last year. Before that he only played in '04 and '05 and lost in R1 :p

Ash86
05-13-2012, 08:24 PM
Rome is Flo's second home, always played great here!
He will beat Rafa ;)

Yes because Shanghai is just like Rome. ;) This is a much better match for Nadal as he'll actually play some real points rather than struggling to get the serve back. Also, having lost to Mayer last time he won't underestimate him.

So looks like Mayer > F.Lopez > Berdych > Murray/Ferrer draw to the final. Doesn't look that bad now. Berdych on slow clay will be fine.

hipolymer
05-13-2012, 08:24 PM
Nid

Orange Wombat
05-13-2012, 08:25 PM
:aparty: Florian! A much needed win! (His results are so pleasingly random). Now beat Nadal!

No worries for Milos. He is young and confident and he will bounce back at the French.

156mphserve
05-13-2012, 08:25 PM
I feared that before watching today's final. Berdych is absymal in the big points. Plus this Raonic result clearly shows us that the conditions in Rome are very different to Madrid - Berdych won't have as many aces & short points - that is if he doesn't have a let down from this week anyway.

Chance for Nadal to even up the Mayer H2H - would then just need one more match against Davydenko to have even/winning records against every active player. At least clay season's been good for that.

Hrbaty's still active, he played Auckland qualies:p

GSMnadal
05-13-2012, 08:26 PM
Fuck, I much rather had Rafa beating Raonic than Funky Flo

Hian-GOAT
05-13-2012, 08:27 PM
Raonic :wavey: Disgusting serve-machine, he suddenly loses on real clay against a slumping J-Flo :hysteric: Go to Challengera, that's your place :wavey:

Flo :banana: Good win for him against the mug, but now comes the real test :armed:

Orange Wombat
05-13-2012, 08:27 PM
Fuck, I much rather had Rafa beating Raonic than Funky Flo

You'd also rather have Rafa losing to Raonic than Funky Flo, no?

Allez
05-13-2012, 08:30 PM
A fine draw for Rafa opening up even though I still think he'd have destroyed Milos :yeah: Sick of hearing unfounded statements about Raonic being a major threat to Rafa :facepalm:

samanosuke
05-13-2012, 08:31 PM
was this ever in fucking doubt . mayer couldn't beat anybody but pig's curse hits again. nadal would maybe stay at fishing if milos won this match but now has a reason to be back . un-fucking-mazing

you are ignoring the most important fact. It's a match before nadal's match and you know how guys who can hurt nadal finishing before they meet him

no worry. something is gonna happen with Milos. nadal having a tough opponent in R2 would mean end of the world


how i hate to be right

Orka_n
05-13-2012, 08:32 PM
Raonic you pathetic moron.

Flo plays like shit all year then saves Nadal. NID :facepalm:

156mphserve
05-13-2012, 08:32 PM
Hrbaty's still active, he played Auckland qualies:p

he's also 0-1 against Galvani who's active. Lost to him in a challenger in 2001

Looner
05-13-2012, 08:33 PM
vamos Rafa!

Says it all, really. Pretty sure RN's reaction was not much different :rolleyes:.

LastRocket
05-13-2012, 08:34 PM
Raonic :facepalm:

misty1
05-13-2012, 08:35 PM
:aparty: Florian! A much needed win! (His results are so pleasingly random). Now beat Nadal!

No worries for Milos. He is young and confident and he will bounce back at the French.

and do what exactly? last year he lost first round to michael berrer of all people

he's still not that good on real clay and unless he gets a complete clown on clay in round 1 he stands a good chance of going out in round 1 again

evilmindbulgaria
05-13-2012, 08:35 PM
Quite unexpected. No stream for this but judging by the livescore Mayer just took his opportunities.

Ash86
05-13-2012, 08:36 PM
he's also 0-1 against Galvani who's active. Lost to him in a challenger in 2001

Think he'll be able to live with those. Challengers don't count in H2Hs anyway - ATP only.

Hrabty can be happy being the answer to a trivia question. As it is I'm sure Novak will have a winning H2H over Nadal by the time they retire but as long as it's close it's okay. Really need Davydenko to pop up in the draw a few more times though - RG would be a good start. :cool:

samanosuke
05-13-2012, 08:39 PM
people actually don't understand how huge was this even for nadal standards . this guy should retire and play lotto every week . i am sure in month time he would be a billionaire

timafi
05-13-2012, 08:39 PM
Nadal you lucky bastard.2 weeks in a row you escape defeat

70-68
05-13-2012, 08:40 PM
Uncle Toni :rolleyes:

motorhead
05-13-2012, 08:40 PM
Mayer :worship:

ServeVolley
05-13-2012, 08:42 PM
What!? Mayer's been terrible all year, and now he puts out the only threat to Nadal...? :facepalm:

Sofonda Cox
05-13-2012, 08:43 PM
And so we now know who leaves the tournament with the most money in his pockets...

Coolio_Jack
05-13-2012, 08:46 PM
and do what exactly? last year he lost first round to michael berrer of all people

he's still not that good on real clay and unless he gets a complete clown on clay in round 1 he stands a good chance of going out in round 1 again

Clay cant be more "real" then the one in Barcelona and he did fine there.

There's no much sense in over analyzing this result, it has to do with curse of being the next dangerous Nadal's opponent.

MIMIC
05-13-2012, 08:47 PM
*rushes into thread*

NADAL'S LUCK!!1111one

Am I 2 l8?

GSMnadal
05-13-2012, 08:49 PM
You'd also rather have Rafa losing to Raonic than Funky Flo, no?

Rafa losing to a servebot in Rome, yeah sure

samanosuke
05-13-2012, 08:50 PM
nadal succeeded to spoil me so perfect day even if he didn't play . fuck chuck norris, unexplainable facts should be named after this moron

HKz
05-13-2012, 08:50 PM
Nadal should take out Mayer pretty easily, however, he shouldn't be underestimated. Mayer should have the belief that he can beat Nadal because of their last match, and Mayer is not someone to take lightly on clay as his clay results over the years have been very decent.

mooncreek
05-13-2012, 08:50 PM
i just dont get why everyone assumes milos would have been any kind of threat to nadal here. In barcelona and madrid for sure but not here where the clay plays like actual clay

It's the fact of actually seeing the matchup - I don't seriously think Raonic could beat Nadal on slow clay but until they play on it, it's all speculation.

Oh By The Way: Florian Mayer has a positive H2H against Rafa: 1-0. That won't be true after the next round but for today, he still has that bit of trivia.

MIMIC
05-13-2012, 08:54 PM
Dangerous player loses or has an amazingly long match and is so tired the match before playing nadal. NID

Your username suggest that this comment has no bias :yeah:

Time Violation
05-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Raonic wouldn't have caused any trouble to Nadal on this surface. His serve isn't nowhere near as effective on slow courts and he can't hit through the court either.

According to some Nadaltards, Rome clay is extremely fast :)

MIMIC
05-13-2012, 09:02 PM
It's the fact of actually seeing the matchup - I don't seriously think Raonic could beat Nadal on slow clay but until they play on it, it's all speculation.

Oh By The Way: Florian Mayer has a positive H2H against Rafa: 1-0. That won't be true after the next round but for today, he still has that bit of trivia.

Mayer should retire for his fans.

Nole Rules
05-13-2012, 09:09 PM
:haha:

karool
05-13-2012, 09:09 PM
Don't know why all those guys were thinking Raonic could give some problem to Rafa. They already played, on HARD COURTS, and Raonic didn't take at least one set.

That will be an easy way until Rafa reaches the final - and wins. Serverer will go back to his place on that real clay, will do nothing, probably. Djokovic won't make final.

kiriri***
05-13-2012, 09:35 PM
Flo :bowdown:, still I don't think he will pose a threat to Rafa. Funny that Flo can beat big servers even slumpng, he beated Isner & Raonic this season, his best wins.

:lol:
Plus he could beat Muller at Montpellier.
Good win, Mayer:) It's impossible to beat Nadal on clay but do his best:D

tennishero
05-13-2012, 09:43 PM
Hahahahaha!

tennishero
05-13-2012, 09:45 PM
"future of tennis"


:lol:

Coolio_Jack
05-13-2012, 09:47 PM
Don't know why all those guys were thinking Raonic could give some problem to Rafa. They already played, on HARD COURTS, and Raonic didn't take at least one set.


You have to be really ignorant to mention those 2 matches, they are not relevant at all. Firstly, Milos is a diffrent player today than then, and second he was just returning from a injury break then.

Just the fact that Milos lost today, proves that he would probavly beat Nadal, otherwise there wouldnt be a need for cursing him today.

Lestat
05-13-2012, 09:49 PM
this is what happens when you overrate him that much, the bot just overheated the CPU.

karool
05-13-2012, 10:12 PM
You have to be really ignorant to mention those 2 matches, they are not relevant at all. Firstly, Milos is a diffrent player today than then, and second he was just returning from a injury break then.

Just the fact that Milos lost today, proves that he would probavly beat Nadal, otherwise there wouldnt be a need for cursing him today.

And you have to be really ignorant to think Raonic would give some problem to Rafa on that kind of clay. He can't count with his serve in Rome the same way he can count with in Madrid, for example. The first meeting of them, ok, but the last was last year not so far at all.

Chase Visa
05-13-2012, 10:20 PM
Good win Funky.

nole_no1
05-13-2012, 10:48 PM
Maybe Raonic was too scared of Nadal :p

green25814
05-13-2012, 10:50 PM
This isn't a surprise on slow clay

Marc23
05-13-2012, 10:51 PM
Wow. Bit of shock.


I am not shocked as Mayer is very unpredictable...he can play crap or play unbelievable!

romismak
05-13-2012, 11:04 PM
I am not surprised, but really sad that Mayer must now decide to play tennis... hope he will push Nadal at least. Milos was great in Barca, not great in MC... so hard to tell how he will play on red clay, - Madrid was obviously much faster-more suitable court for him, but i wasn´s so sure that he is going to destroy Mayer, i was hoping for him to play Rafa but if he can´t beat Mayer in R1 and Montanes in R1 in MC really he needs to work on his game.. hope he will do fine at RG - hope other guys won´t go past him and he stays in top 24- that means he wo´t play top 8 so soon and with better seeding finally no Roger, Rafa in first rounds.

Corey Feldman
05-13-2012, 11:34 PM
hopefully Flo can repeat what he did in Shanghai and pound Nadal

Topspindoctor
05-14-2012, 02:30 AM
Unexpected result. Mugyer is a powerless clown with no game. Raonic must have been playing at 10% max to lose to this weak player. Oh well. At least it's better for Nadal.

Geo
05-14-2012, 02:43 AM
wtf Raonic :o Nadal is so lucky :lol:

SelvenluvJo
05-14-2012, 03:17 AM
:stupid:

paseo
05-14-2012, 03:17 AM
All luck, this Nadal.

Arkulari
05-14-2012, 03:18 AM
I said it before and will say it again: Raonic has an amazing serve and good volleys but his groundgame is still far far where it should be if he wants to win anything except San Jose or Memphis.

Put him in a high bouncing surface and he's toast.

bouncer7
05-14-2012, 03:21 AM
Groth new serve speed record obviously was in his mind

cmoss
05-14-2012, 04:39 AM
Today Isner is the only giant that love slow courts.

dencod16
05-14-2012, 04:53 AM
Raonic doesn't real have a game all he has is his serve his like Isner, i even consider Isner better. I dont get all the hype he is getting.

allpro
05-14-2012, 04:55 AM
rao’s ros has been weighed in the balances, and found wanting.

BroTree123
05-14-2012, 05:04 AM
Damn it, I knew something like this would happen :o

Lacking a tad of confidence after what happened last week. Hopefully he's alright for RG.

tripwires
05-14-2012, 05:20 AM
Raonic doesn't real have a game all he has is his serve his like Isner, i even consider Isner better. I dont get all the hype he is getting.

That's because he IS better.

J99
05-14-2012, 05:23 AM
Not a big surprise. On slow surfaces, Raonic's serve loses a lot of its effectiveness and he's much easier to neutralize.

Heh, guess you missed Barca.

J99
05-14-2012, 05:24 AM
That's because he IS better.

Only in ranking right now.

Mark Lenders
05-14-2012, 05:30 AM
Heh, guess you missed Barca.

Barca isn't slow clay.

In Monte Carlo, probably the slowest clay event, he got broken 4 times by Montañes of all players. His ground game still isn't good enough to compensate for a loss of effectiveness of his serve on slower surfaces.

duchuy89
05-14-2012, 05:54 AM
All luck, this Nadal.

:D

Mountaindewslave
05-14-2012, 05:56 AM
Nadal will be extremely stoked about this, but nonetheless rather surprising considering Federer's near loss to Milos last week. one must wonder if Raonic will have an up and down career, his physical state always seems in question

gulzhan
05-14-2012, 06:18 AM
:rolls: at all the disappointed Fedtards.

Mayer is a solid player, who said he should hand victory on the plate to Raonic just because you, pathetic haters, think he has a shot against Nadal?!

Congrats, Flo!

moon language
05-14-2012, 06:46 AM
I'm not sure why people thought Raonic was going to be the bigger threat to Nadal. Mayer made the quarterfinal of Rome last year, while Milos has never made it out of the first round. Mayer's variety can pose a bigger problem than Milos's serve on the Rome courts (not to say I expect Nadal to have much trouble with him anyway).

madmax
05-14-2012, 09:41 AM
Expected.
All servebots are useles on proper red clay anyway. Mayer is much more talented and flashy player too - he is not called "Funky Flo" for no reason

asmazif
05-14-2012, 10:14 AM
great win - please say Flo is finally finding his feet this year. Rome courts seem to suit him - reached QF here last year.

J99
05-14-2012, 10:37 AM
1st set could have gone either way, 2nd Milos did not serve as well, it was close.

Orka_n
05-14-2012, 12:02 PM
I'm not sure why people thought Raonic was going to be the bigger threat to Nadal. Mayer made the quarterfinal of Rome last year, while Milos has never made it out of the first round. Mayer's variety can pose a bigger problem than Milos's serve on the Rome courts (not to say I expect Nadal to have much trouble with him anyway).:lol: What? Variety does not defeat Nadal, it never has. Power can be effective, however. That's how Flo beat Nadal in Shanghai, he overpowered him. But he doesn't have enough power game or big enough serve to hit through him on clay. Raonic has though.

_Chaz
05-14-2012, 01:09 PM
Yeah... once you root against your fellow countryman he wins of course :rolleyes:

By the way Mayer's wins in 2012 have been against:

Muller - considered as serve bot here
Dodig - well, his serve is quite good as well
Isner - so called serve bot
Raonic - see Muller and Isner
Bagnis - Flo is simply better than him

One clearly sees here that Flo can only win matches this year where only few points decide and with very few rallies.

misty1
05-14-2012, 01:14 PM
:lol: What? Variety does not defeat Nadal, it never has. Power can be effective, however. That's how Flo beat Nadal in Shanghai, he overpowered him. But he doesn't have enough power game or big enough serve to hit through him on clay. Raonic has though.

you say that he does and yet he cant do it on hard courts

i fail to find reasoning in your comments

misty1
05-14-2012, 01:18 PM
i guess it still amazes me that people think that milos would have been any kind of threat to nadal at all here. Everyone thinks milos would have hit through him

well rafa is 2-0 against milos ans both of those have come on milos's best surface which is hard court. So if milos cant do it on hard he sure as hell isnt hitting through rafael nadal on rafael's best surface. Maybe he could on fast clay like madrid but definately not in rome

_Chaz
05-14-2012, 01:29 PM
well rafa is 2-0 against milos ans both of those have come on milos's best surface which is hard court. So if milos cant do it on hard he sure as hell isnt hitting through rafael nadal on rafael's best surface. Maybe he could on fast clay like madrid but definately not in rome

1st meeting:
Raonic was like number 160 in the world and Tokyo was like his 2nd ATP tournament in his career. He was simply not good and experienced that time in 2010.

2nd meeting:
I think 1st tournament back from a 2,5 month injury (though he played Davis Cup two weeks before that). He clearly wasn't at his best then either.

romismak
05-14-2012, 01:56 PM
1st meeting:
Raonic was like number 160 in the world and Tokyo was like his 2nd ATP tournament in his career. He was simply not good and experienced that time in 2010.

2nd meeting:
I think 1st tournament back from a 2,5 month injury (though he played Davis Cup two weeks before that). He clearly wasn't at his best then either.

All Rafa fans still are showing that stupid H2H for Rafa and i am tired of writing this up- good that you did it. It like playing now Karlovic beat him and say how good you are vs Ivo overall-but play him now and in 2007 is big difference. The same goes with Milos - pre-2011 Milos and this Milos is way way different player and post-injury Milos who lost to some WEitraub from ISR in Davis cup... ::D:D but Rafa leds 2-0:D: he can handle Milos like nothing yes:D:D

_Chaz
05-14-2012, 02:07 PM
All Rafa fans still are showing that stupid H2H for Rafa and i am tired of writing this up- good that you did it. It like playing now Karlovic beat him and say how good you are vs Ivo overall-but play him now and in 2007 is big difference. The same goes with Milos - pre-2011 Milos and this Milos is way way different player and post-injury Milos who lost to some WEitraub from ISR in Davis cup... ::D:D but Rafa leds 2-0:D: he can handle Milos like nothing yes:D:D

The problem is, most people forget about all these facts with the injury etc. They just look at the h2h, read "2-0 Nadal, both time straight sets", out of that they conclude: Nadal owns Raonic.

JurajCrane
05-14-2012, 03:13 PM
The problem is, most people forget about all these facts with the injury etc. They just look at the h2h, read "2-0 Nadal, both time straight sets", out of that they conclude: Nadal owns Raonic.

And that is the biggest problem of H2H statistics.

bjurra
05-14-2012, 03:31 PM
The amount of hindsight wisedom in this thread is ridiculous. How can anyone seriously claim this is not a big surprise, given their results this year? And given the Rome clay is pretty fast?

J99
05-14-2012, 03:41 PM
The amount of hindsight wisedom in this thread is ridiculous. How can anyone seriously claim this is not a big surprise, given their results this year? And given the Rome clay is pretty fast?

You are the 1st person who has said this.

bjurra
05-14-2012, 03:50 PM
You are the 1st person who has said this.

We come straight off a week on smurf clay, my reference is normal clay. And Rome is faster than most other red clay events.

J99
05-14-2012, 03:56 PM
We come straight off a week on smurf clay, my reference is normal clay. And Rome is faster than most other red clay events.

That's not what's been said here.

Jimnik
05-14-2012, 04:08 PM
Expected one. Credit to Raonic for his run but Madrid was a freak week on freak clay. Good to see Funky Flo in business.

misty1
05-14-2012, 04:13 PM
1st meeting:
Raonic was like number 160 in the world and Tokyo was like his 2nd ATP tournament in his career. He was simply not good and experienced that time in 2010.

2nd meeting:
I think 1st tournament back from a 2,5 month injury (though he played Davis Cup two weeks before that). He clearly wasn't at his best then either.

Im not even a nadal fan..infact i hate him

but fine, lets take the circumstances into account and ignore the H2H

i am curious to know what exactly milos has shown on a slower clay surface that would lead people to believe that he could threaten rafael, one of the best clay courters there ever was.

Rome may not be terribly slow but its still slower than any other clay milos has played on and he's yet to win a match on it.If he cant beat florian mayer in rome he wouldnt beat rafael nadal

everyone wants to see the math now, i get that. However lets not pretend that milos is ready to beat nadal on clay just yet

bjurra
05-14-2012, 04:20 PM
That's not what's been said here.

Rome has always been an event with fast clay. Who claims otherwise?

misty1
05-14-2012, 04:22 PM
rome is still slower than anything he's played on this year

its definately slower than madrid, where a raonic/nadal match would have been more interesting

bjurra
05-14-2012, 04:24 PM
Rome may not be terribly slow but its still slower than any other clay milos has played on and he's yet to win a match on it.If he cant beat florian mayer in rome he wouldnt beat rafael nadal

everyone wants to see the math now, i get that. However lets not pretend that milos is ready to beat nadal on clay just yet

I will be very interesting to see what an in-form Milos can do on red clay.

Considering how few return points he won against Mayer, he clearly had a bad day.

misty1
05-14-2012, 04:27 PM
I will be very interesting to see what an in-form Milos can do on red clay.

Considering how few return points he won against Mayer, he clearly had a bad day.

we saw what an in form milos can do yesterday. In his own words milos said after the match that he played well and that is was florian who just played better and frustrated him with his game

J99
05-14-2012, 04:46 PM
we saw what an in form milos can do yesterday. In his own words milos said after the match that he played well and that is was florian who just played better and frustrated him with his game

Milos's serve wasn't in top form, 1st set was passable, 2nd not so much.

bjurra
05-14-2012, 04:59 PM
we saw what an in form milos can do yesterday. In his own words milos said after the match that he played well and that is was florian who just played better and frustrated him with his game

"I didn’t play my best tennis but I played OK."

Sophocles
05-14-2012, 05:04 PM
In today's game you really don't want to be a dangerous young player on a hot streak with Nadal in the next round.

Sophocles
05-14-2012, 05:25 PM
rome is still slower than anything he's played on this year

its definately slower than madrid, where a raonic/nadal match would have been more interesting

It is not slower than Barcelona, where Raonic made the semis and gave Ferrer a hell of a match. Before Madrid came along, Rome was generally regarded as the fastest European clay tournament.

Hian-GOAT
05-14-2012, 07:51 PM
Taking out the trash :inlove: :hearts:

Snowwy
05-14-2012, 08:52 PM
Milos's serve wasn't in top form, 1st set was passable, 2nd not so much.

Yeah he got angry at the end of the first set and when he is angry he always losses. After going 9-6 on clay last year, Milos will again have at least a .500 record on what is his worst surface, with wins over Andreev, Falla, Nalbandian, Murray and Almagro, losses to Mayer, Federer, Ferrer and Montanes. Pretty good clay court season for a servebot.

Forgot to add that Milos came into the clay season injured as well.

Gagsquet
05-14-2012, 09:10 PM
So if his serve is off, Raonic can't beat any top 500 ?

Snowwy
05-14-2012, 09:18 PM
So if his serve is off, Raonic can't beat any top 500 ?

I disagree, did you see him in Barcelona, he was excellent, and against Federer? It isn't his serve, when he gets angry he overhits everything, serve, forehand and backhand and that is when the errors come quick and the losses to players ranked outside the top 30 happen.

Hypnotize
05-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Yeah he got angry at the end of the first set and when he is angry he always losses. After going 9-6 on clay last year, Milos will again have at least a .500 record on what is his worst surface, with wins over Andreev, Falla, Nalbandian, Murray and Almagro, losses to Mayer, Federer, Ferrer and Montanes. Pretty good clay court season for a servebot.

Forgot to add that Milos came into the clay season injured as well.
Every time Raonic has a bad result, some Canadian on here claims he is injured. He should change his name to Milos Nadal. :rolleyes:

Every player out there has to deal with injuries of some kind.

misty1
05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
I disagree, did you see him in Barcelona, he was excellent, and against Federer? It isn't his serve, when he gets angry he overhits everything, serve, forehand and backhand and that is when the errors come quick and the losses to players ranked outside the top 30 happen.

well, as i said milos said himself that florian neutralized his serve really well and that his game frustrated him

he needs to work on that because he's mentioned it before where he got frustrated with the other guy and it obviously affacted the outcome

Snowwy
05-14-2012, 10:41 PM
well, as i said milos said himself that florian neutralized his serve really well and that his game frustrated him

he needs to work on that because he's mentioned it before where he got frustrated with the other guy and it obviously affacted the outcome

Yup I agree.

Mr. Oracle
05-14-2012, 10:49 PM
Milos has a long way to go. I fear that too much expectation has been put on him. He is constantly in the Canadian media and is already a sport hero despite not having accomplished very much. He's at risk of entering djokovic's 2009 walkabout period way too early.

Voo de Mar
05-15-2012, 12:42 AM
It's a pity, I'd like to see Raonic this year against Nadal and Djokovic. Against Murray and Federer he played better than I expected.

J99
05-15-2012, 03:54 AM
Milos has a long way to go. I fear that too much expectation has been put on him. He is constantly in the Canadian media and is already a sport hero despite not having accomplished very much. He's at risk of entering djokovic's 2009 walkabout period way too early.

Are you kidding, at his age he's done more than most players.

Topspindoctor
05-15-2012, 04:01 AM
Raonic is the future mark my words. I was not impressed with him before, but now I am convinced. The young Canadian will thrash Tomug in many slam finals.