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Has Tomas' game improved since he dumped Lucie?

Roger the Dodger
05-12-2012, 08:33 PM
Do relationships have an effect on the outcome of your career?

Roddick's career has clearly crashed the rocks since he got together with Decker.

Federer's reached GOAT status since he mooed Mirka. I meant woo.

Nadal and Djoker perform consistently because they forged consistent partnerships since a very young age.

What about Tomas? Has his luck changed for good? Will he finally show his full potential, which we've been expecting him to show since 2005?

Li Ching Yuen
05-12-2012, 08:34 PM
One of the better threads of the day without a shadow of a doubt.

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 08:34 PM
Igor Andreev finally got broken up with by whats her name and looked whats happened to him..... so yes, definitely sometimes...

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 08:46 PM
As bad as it sounds, yes.

At first it resulted in a horrible performance and loss against Soderling 6-1 6-0 only the day after the breakup (apparently) but since then he's made the QF in Montreal, SF in Cincy, won Beijing, SF in Paris, SF WTF, QF AO, won Montpellier, SF Monte-Carlo and now the final in Madrid as well.

But saying that he does have a new girlfriend, but then at least she's with him most of the time which Lucie couldn't do as a fellow tennis player.

Stronga23
05-12-2012, 08:48 PM
As bad as it sounds, yes.

At first it resulted in a horrible performance and loss against Soderling 6-1 6-0 only the day after the breakup (apparently) but since then he's made the QF in Montreal, SF in Cincy, won Beijing, SF in Paris, SF WTF, QF AO, won Montpellier, SF Monte-Carlo and now the final in Madrid as well.

But saying that he does have a new girlfriend, but then at least she's with him most of the time which Lucie couldn't do as a fellow tennis player.

Jo and Tomas are going to wreak havoc at the All England Club.

Mark Lenders
05-12-2012, 08:55 PM
Whatever the reason, the improvements are clear. Let's hope he keeps it up...

That said, he was always one of the best on very fast surfaces, so his great from this week isn't that surprising.

He is one of the most harmed by this era's generally slow conditions. The tennis he showed today vs Del Potro, he can't show it in slow surfaces because he can't hit through the courts vs top players and tends to get frustrated and start spraying errors. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even reach Nadal next week in Rome and got routined by Del Potro when they face in a slower court, where he can't finish points off so easily. Berdych's career has been great, especially considering his game is not suited at all to the current conditions.

It is really a shame there's not more variety in surfaces. Tomas would definitely thrive in very fast surfaces, as would for instance Tsonga. First strike tennis is his biggest strength, which gets nullified by most of the current courts. As a fan, I'd just love for him to redline his game for two weeks and get a Slam before he's done, at Wimbledon or USO (who are faster than RG and AO).

For now, would like to see him crack the #5. A player like him deserves to have been in the world top 5 at least once in his career.

superslam77
05-12-2012, 08:56 PM
hmmm let me see sampras and roddick declined because they got too much interested in sex.

fed became so less interested in sex that he became goat. kidding ;)

nadal and nole remained consistent because it was all an act anyways. just kidding ;) well for nole.

Mark Lenders
05-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Jo and Tomas are going to wreak havoc at the All England Club.

I really hope so.

Especially Jo, it's time for him to achieve his potential. I can't believe how poor he was vs Nole last year in the semis after serving Roger off the court. His game is so well suited for grass courts with his huge serve and great net game: it's time to keep up the high level for an entire tournament.

DjokerFan3
05-12-2012, 09:03 PM
If I had a hot chick like Ester sitting in my players' box whilst I'm playing a match, then I really can't do much wrong, especially when you think about "after the match" :lol:.

http://i.imgur.com/XhDBt.png

Ester :hearts:

Roger the Dodger
05-12-2012, 09:06 PM
hmmm let me see sampras and roddick declined because they got too much interested in sex.

fed became so less interested in sex that he became goat. kidding ;)

nadal and nole remained consistent because it was all an act anyways. just kidding ;) well for nole.

Which is not altogether untrue. There was a GOAT once who overindulged in sex. Brought his career down. I think his name was Bjorn something.

DjokerFan3
05-12-2012, 09:06 PM
Back on topic: Yes Tomas's game really has improved in the last year, I really hope he keeps this up because I think his aggressive ballstriking is great to watch when he's on song.

Hope he beats Roger and wins Madrid. :rocker:

Clay Death
05-12-2012, 09:06 PM
damn it man. she is hotter than a furnace.

Roger the Dodger
05-12-2012, 09:08 PM
Davydenko's wife had a huge role in reviving his career, if rumours are to be believed and I think he really dotes on her for it.

romismak
05-12-2012, 09:10 PM
I think he matured simply, he was succesfull at beginning of his career playing agressive teniss, - ballbashing sometimes really, won in 2005 indoor Paris - which was quicker that time than nowadays. He was playing great seems like big future is ahead of him than he somehow stagnated - was No.20 2x in row and than 2010 came and he out of nowhere make Miami F, than RG SF and Wimbledon F. He get points made top 10 again- post Wimbledon he was horrible donīt know why, but next season 2011 he was consistent making QF all the time, not making many upsets, but beating guys he was supposed to beat - RG was big upset... but at least he is now defending nothing there and can add a lot of points. I donīt think it has to do something with his GF, i think he just matured - by age, by playing matches, simply 2010 was big year - SF RG and Wimbledon F, than he was in slump and he just matured and started 2011 being more consistent - solid top 10 player.

romismak
05-12-2012, 09:12 PM
Jo and Tomas are going to wreak havoc at the All England Club.

I have the same feeling, i think Wimbledon and Olympics winner will be Jo, Tomas or Roger. Both Jo and Tomas have perfect game for grass, definitely much better than Nadal-Djokovic.

Mark Lenders
05-12-2012, 09:12 PM
I think he matured simply, he was succesfull at beginning of his career playing agressive teniss, - ballbashing sometimes really, won in 2005 indoor Paris - which was quicker that time than nowadays. He was playing great seems like big future is ahead of him than he somehow stagnated - was No.20 2x in row and than 2010 came and he out of nowhere make Miami F, than RG SF and Wimbledon F. He get points made top 10 again- post Wimbledon he was horrible donīt know why, but next season 2011 he was consistent making QF all the time, not making many upsets, but beating guys he was supposed to beat - RG was big upset... but at least he is now defending nothing there and can add a lot of points. I donīt think it has to do something with his GF, i think he just matured - by age, by playing matches, simply 2010 was big year - SF RG and Wimbledon F, than he was in slump and he just matured and started 2011 being more consistent - solid top 10 player.

He had to adapt his game to the current conditions. His brand of first strike tennis could never succeed on the current courts, since it's impossible to hit through the top players.

It took time for him to adapt his game to the conditions and start fulfilling his potential, that's all.

Unsurprisingly, his only Masters title was in Bercy on carpet. He's just unlucky to have emerged in an era where the court speed/conditions don't suit his game.

Mark Lenders
05-12-2012, 09:14 PM
If I had a hot chick like Ester sitting in my players' box whilst I'm playing a match, then I really can't do much wrong, especially when you think about "after the match" :lol:.

http://i.imgur.com/XhDBt.png

Ester :hearts:

Tomas :worship:

romismak
05-12-2012, 09:17 PM
He had to adapt his game to the current conditions. His brand of first strike tennis could never succeed on the current courts, since it's impossible to hit through the top players.

It took time for him to adapt his game to the conditions and start fulfilling his potential, that's all.

Unsurprisingly, his only Masters title was in Bercy on carpet. He's just unlucky to have emerged in an era where the court speed/conditions don't suit his game.

Yes he developed his game, right now he is force on clay generally, he is by far most complete surface-wise from those big hitters, he is top 5 on grass, top 5 indoors, top 10 on outdoor HC and top 10 on clay. He has all the tools to beat anybody.

Roger the Dodger
05-12-2012, 09:21 PM
Yes he developed his game, right now he is force on clay generally, he is by far most complete surface-wise from those big hitters, he is top 5 on grass, top 5 indoors, top 10 on outdoor HC and top 10 on clay. He has all the tools to beat anybody.

But the reason why he got sorted in his head was because he dumped Lucie, right? Tomas has been historically weak in the head. This maturity is very recent.

Mark Lenders
05-12-2012, 09:22 PM
Yes he developed his game, right now he is force on clay generally, he is by far most complete surface-wise from those big hitters, he is top 5 on grass, top 5 indoors, top 10 on outdoor HC and top 10 on clay. He has all the tools to beat anybody.

Yes, I agree. He has become a very good player on all surfaces, capable of beating anybody.

I hope he can maintain his level/make slight improvements in the next few years and maybe get a Slam to put the cherry on top of an already excellent career.

Il Primo Uomo
05-12-2012, 09:23 PM
Young and tight pussy does wonders for anyone.

I hope he pushes Jowi out of the top5 cause this bum looks out of place.

Pirata.
05-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Davydenko's wife had a huge role in reviving his career, if rumours are to be believed and I think he really dotes on her for it.

He and Irina are a lovely couple :inlove:

misty1
05-12-2012, 10:38 PM
it actually seems like its been the best move for both of them

tomas is playing alot better and so is lucie

Thunderfish8
05-12-2012, 11:36 PM
I have the same feeling, i think Wimbledon and Olympics winner will be Jo, Tomas or Roger. Both Jo and Tomas have perfect game for grass, definitely much better than Nadal-Djokovic.

well maybe Tomas if he can retain this form

I cannot believe Tsonga will do damage on the grass if he cannot get his act together first.
He needs to start beating top 10 opponents again first and stop losing to people ranked outside the top 10.

This year he has recorded losses to #26 Nishikori, #10 Del Potro (twice), #74 Nalbandian, #11 Isner, #15 Simon, #134 Haas, and a loss to Rafa.

His biggest win of the year has been over #16 Monfils back in January.

If he does not recover from this mini-slump, I do not think he will cause any damage on the grass whatsoever.
And with big ranking points to defend on the grass, his ranking will reflect his recent form.
His ranking using only 2012 points (race to WTF) is currently #11 and on Monday will be #12 when Tipsarevic passes him.

I gotta say, I don't think Tsonga is headed in the right direction. I think we may be in for another temporary crash and burn like we saw in late 2010 and early 2011 before we see a threatening Tsonga again...

Sean.
05-12-2012, 11:44 PM
I understood it to be the other way around, she finished with him.

Either way, I like the way he's going!

Topspindoctor
05-12-2012, 11:58 PM
Lucie was too intense for Berdshit. He used too much stamina to satisfy her and had therefore no energy left for tennis. His new girl is probably dead fish in bed, that's why his tennis picked up.

Forehander
05-13-2012, 04:48 AM
Lucie was too intense for Berdshit. He used too much stamina to satisfy her and had therefore no energy left for tennis. His new girl is probably dead fish in bed, that's why his tennis picked up.

That's what I thought too.

And what's this? lol your avatar is a berserk Horde troll :lol: