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Rome Masters 1000: 2012 Draw

Ash86
05-12-2012, 10:26 AM
Going on right now.

RT @FortyDeuceTwits: Rome draw: Federer drawn in Djokovic's half. Murray in Rafa's. #atp

Tiriac en Radio Marca: "Nadal es un gran campeón, estoy esperando que sea un gran profesional".”

[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) vs. Bye
Bernard Tomic (AUS) vs. Qualifier
Radek Stepanek (CZE) vs. Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)
Qualifier vs. [14]Juan Monaco (ARG)
[10]Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) vs. Michael Llodra (FRA)
Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) vs. Michael Youzhny (RUS)
Viktor Troicki (SRB) vs. Filippo Volandri
[6] Jo Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) vs. Bye

[3] Roger Federer (SUI) vs. Bye
Carlos Berlocq (ARG) vs. Qualifier
Kevin Anderson vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (SPA)
Alex Bomogolov (USA) vs. [13]Gael Monfils (FRA)
[9]John Isner (USA) vs. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)
Andreas Seppi (ITA) vs. Denis Istomin (UZB)
Stanislas Wawrinka vs. Qualifier
[8] Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) vs. Bye

[5] David Ferrer vs. Bye
Fernando Verdasco (SPA) vs. Alexander Dolgopolov (UKR)
Pablo Andujar (SPA) vs. Qualifier
Donald Young (USA) vs. [11]Gilles Simon (FRA)
[16]Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs. Jurgen Melzer (AUT)
Nikolay Davidenko (RUS) vs. Paolo Lorenzi (ITA)
David Nalbandian (ARG) vs. Qualifier
[4] Andy Murray (GBR) vs. Bye

[7] Tomas Berdych (CZE) vs. Bye
Lukasz Kubot (POL) vs. Potito Starace (ITA)
Jarko Nieminen (FIN) vs. Qualifer
Marin Cilic (CRO) vs. [12]Nicolas Almagro (SPA)
[15]Feliciano Lopez (SPA) vs. Marcel Granollers (SPA)
Fabio Fognini (ITA) vs. Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)
Milos Raonic (CAN) vs. Florian Mayer (GER)
[2] Rafael Nadal vs. Bye

Nadal/Raonic 2nd round - FML!

Topspindoctor
05-12-2012, 10:31 AM
Looks like another SF exit for Pushray from Rome. Lolz.

Chirag
05-12-2012, 10:43 AM
He will reach the semis you think :superlol:

STUHL
05-12-2012, 10:44 AM
Nice! Hopefully we will get another Fednole Match on Clay!

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 10:44 AM
Never in doubt.

Tennis-Life
05-12-2012, 10:50 AM
He will reach the semis you think :superlol:

why not? especially when Nadal has lost his confidence Andy can go far there.

Ivan Murray has arrived in Rome and training already, while Nadal fishing in Majorca.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/578031_10150814760773873_267627913872_9697835_2051 059412_n.jpg

paseo
05-12-2012, 10:52 AM
Federer drawn in Djokovic's half? What a surprise.

Topspindoctor
05-12-2012, 10:52 AM
Nadal lost his confidence? You wish.

In any case even a 10% Nadal is enough to routine this pusher on clay, so don't get your hopes up :wavey:

TennisOnWood
05-12-2012, 10:54 AM
With Andy's game from Monte Carlo and Barcelona, Rafa can beat from fishing boat

Ash86
05-12-2012, 11:00 AM
https://api.plixi.com/api/tpapi.svc/imagefromurl?size=medium&url=http%3A%2F%2Flockerz.com%2Fs%2F208358403

Chris Kuerten
05-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Looks like another SF exit for Pushray from Rome. Lolz.Sweet that you try to spare him, but I doubt he will even make it to the SF. I posted that before I saw the draw, it will definitely NOT happen.

Federer getting pounded by Berlocq in R2.

First round Verdasco - Dolgopolov, winner plays Ferrer :eek:

Tennis-Life
05-12-2012, 11:01 AM
Djokovic vs Tomic
Nadal vs Raonic :superlol:

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 11:02 AM
Berdych gets Nadal again. :facepalm:

Topspindoctor
05-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Looking forward to Nadal clipping Berdych's wings again:drool:

SelvenluvJo
05-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Jo-Nole-Del Potro in the same quarter. 2nd round will face Troicki :o

Ash86
05-12-2012, 11:03 AM
Berdych gets Nadal again. :facepalm:

Nadal has to get past Raonic yet - awful first match back after the Verdasco fiasco... :o

70-68
05-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Nadal vs. Raonic in a possible 2nd round. That should be fun :sport:

Deathless Mortal
05-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Nadal-Raonic :haha:
Too bad it's on slow clay though

ossie
05-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Berdych gets Nadal again. :facepalm:
you should be happy, at least he didn't get delpo this time.

Coolio_Jack
05-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Raonic has a chance against Nadal, but he has the worst draws.Hard to climb up rankings like that.

Gagsquet
05-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Shitty first round for Rich :(

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Oh damn! Didn't see Raonic there! :lol:

70-68
05-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Looks like another SF exit for Pushray from Rome. Lolz.

Agree. I can't see him beating Berdych or Raonic in the semis.

Federer in 2
05-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Nadal - Raonic R2 !!!!!!!!!!!

Tennis-Life
05-12-2012, 11:05 AM
you should be happy, at least he didn't get delpo this time.

:superlol:

Action Jackson
05-12-2012, 11:10 AM
Nadal-Raonic :haha:
Too bad it's on slow clay though

Rome is never slow unless it's rainy.

Kat_YYZ
05-12-2012, 11:11 AM
Nadal-Raonic :haha:
Too bad it's on slow clay though

and too soon in the draw. If Raonic could play a few matches and get used to Rome's conditions, maybe he could come up with some strategy for Nadal, but it'd still be a tall order.

For his part, Nadal (and Djokovic) will be extremely motivated to do well here; an early(ish) loss to anyone other than a top 10 player will cast doubt on claims that they did badly in Madrid because of the blue clay.

Chirag
05-12-2012, 11:12 AM
raonic in R2 :eek:

Topspindoctor
05-12-2012, 11:14 AM
Raonic in R2 :facepalm:

This is very bad. Hopefully Rome is very very slow.

Ash86
05-12-2012, 11:14 AM
Think Nadal & Nole should show even more dedication to their RG quest by tanking their first matches here to the young ones - Nole to Tomic, Rafa to Raonic - would be kind of hilarious. :devil:

Nadal's first match is the worst part of his draw. Other than that it's slow clay so you'd expect him to be okay even if Almagro, Berdych, Ferrer etc. can be tough.

STUHL
05-12-2012, 11:15 AM
WTF!? Kohli draws a high-seeded Player again! :sad:

n8
05-12-2012, 11:17 AM
Raonic has such bad luck with Masters1000 draws this year.
IW - Federer (eventual winner) 3rd round
Miami - Murray (eventual finalist) 3rd round
Madrid - Federer 2nd round
Rome - Nadal 2nd round

JanKowalski
05-12-2012, 11:21 AM
Draw seems fair.

Djokovic: Tomic, Monaco, Del Potro
Nadal: Raonic, Lopez?, Berdych
Federer: Berlocq, Monfils, Isner?
Murray: Nalbandian, Gasquet, Ferrer

Fed has the easiest 1st match on paper, but he usually plays crap in first match.

Ravel
05-12-2012, 11:21 AM
Raonic has such bad luck with Masters1000 draws this year.
IW - Federer (eventual winner) 3rd round
Miami - Murray (eventual finalist) 3rd round
Madrid - Federer 2nd round
Rome - Nadal 2nd round

I've noticed this as well...

Good news to whoever actually beats Raonic in these tournaments, they end up doing very well :scratch:

Ash86
05-12-2012, 11:22 AM
Federer seriously has the easiest draw by far. Can't see him losing before the semis. At least those who go on about the easy draws Rafole get can't gripe too much this time. Nole has Del Po in his quarter, while Rafa has the ace machine first up & in form Berdych as a QF opponent.

n8
05-12-2012, 11:26 AM
I've noticed this as well...

Good news to whoever actually beats Raonic in these tournaments, they end up doing very well :scratch:

Yep, Nadal will no doubt go very well in Rome too. Montanes in Monte Carlo was the only kind draw but Raonic couldn't take advantage (but Montanes couldn't either). :( Next in that event would've been Tipsarevic and then Simon.

LocoPorElTenis
05-12-2012, 11:27 AM
Cakewalk draw for Fed, tough one for Nole and Nadal.

If Federer wins Madrid, it'll start looking much more likely that he could regain number 1.

Hian-GOAT
05-12-2012, 11:28 AM
Insidious draw for Shitdal.

Good luck Hiankees.

romismak
05-12-2012, 11:29 AM
Fuc.ing draw, really i am angry that Milos was once again has supertough R2. He needs points and he is good enough to get them, but not with Federer, Nadal so early.. at least at RG there will be 32 seeded, i think he can take Rafa to Tie-breaks but not beat him on slow red clay, at this fast Madrid clay i would say Milos can beat him but not in Rome. Nole-Roger again SF... unexpected...

I still think Nadal-Djokovic final in Rome but we will see.

zdravkelja
05-12-2012, 11:29 AM
Fed - Nole, NID

I'm really interested in Nadal - Raonic match. Nadal will win, but I think there will be interesting scoreline :)

JanKowalski
05-12-2012, 11:35 AM
Cakewalk draw for Fed, tough one for Nole and Nadal.

If Federer wins Madrid, it'll start looking much more likely that he could regain number 1.

I'd say Del Potro would be easier for Fed than Isner, so it's subjective. Monfils is definately tougher than Lopez/Monaco.

Ash86
05-12-2012, 11:39 AM
I'd say Del Potro would be easier for Fed than Isner, so it's subjective. Monfils is definately tougher than Lopez/Monaco.

Not based on form though. Isner was awful in Madrid and Monfils too - Monfils has played about 2 matches since IW so can't expect too much.

iriraz
05-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Raonic is getting tough draws but atm it`s still a learning experience for him playing against these top players.Also i think for him,it`s easier to play the likes of Federer or Nadal in a R2,R3 match then for instance a semi final.
The top player are trying to get used to the surface and one bad game by them and Raonic can be up a set.With his serve he will always be competitive and will make it close sets where a couple of points decides the winner.

Slice Winner
05-12-2012, 11:53 AM
I hope Roger decides to play Rome now, based on his fairly nice draw.
If Raffs loses to Rennich, then Roger has a really good chance to move ahead as #2.

DjokerFan3
05-12-2012, 11:55 AM
I knew Fedole would be in the same half again, let's hope this time they actually play against each other.

I've lost count of the number of times Roger and Nole could have faced each other since US Open last year, but it's never happened! :(
(Basel, Dubai, IW, Madrid, maybe there are others that I've missed...)

Anyways, the most interesting match is Nadal vs Raonic, definitely going to watch this one, as mentioned by previous posters, Raonic has had bad luck with drawing Top 4 players in the 2nd/3rd rounds, hopefully that experience will pay off for him further down the track.

Possible Berdych-Almagro rematch :lol:

Verdasco vs. Dolgopolov, if Dolgo shows up with his brain intact, he could well frustrate Nando, and then Pics vs. Dolgo.

Murray - I think he will lose in QF to Pics if both get that far, still can't forget his match against Nole in Rome SF last year, he was so close to his 1st clay final, just 2 points away!!!

Snowwy
05-12-2012, 11:56 AM
Tough draw for Milos.

Looner
05-12-2012, 12:01 PM
Federer in Djokovic's half. Tennis has an honest claim to a proper draw mafia nowadays.

Stronga23
05-12-2012, 12:04 PM
Gael should perform better this week where he can actualy defend if he is making tons of UEs. Should face Roger to test where he is at in his comeback.

Tennis-Life
05-12-2012, 12:07 PM
Federer in Djokovic's half. Tennis has an honest claim to a proper draw mafia nowadays.

I'm looking forward to Djokovic and Federer match :smoke:

Arakasi
05-12-2012, 12:17 PM
[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) vs Bye
Bernard Tomic (AUS) vs Qualifier
Radek Stepanek (CZE) vs Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)
Qualifier vs [14]Juan Monaco (ARG)
[10]Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) vs Michael Llodra (FRA)
Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) vs Michael Youzhny (RUS)
Viktor Troicki (SRB) vs Filippo Volandri
[6] Jo Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) vs Bye

[3] Roger Federer (SVI) vs Bye
Carlos Berlocq (ARG) vs Qualifier
Kevin Anderson vs Juan Carlos Ferrero (SPA)
Alex Bomogolov (USA) vs [13]Gael Monfils (FRA)
[9]John Isner (USA) vs Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)
Andreas Seppi (ITA) vs Denis Istomin (UZB)
Stanislas Wawrinka vs Qualifier
[8] Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) vs Bye

[5] David Ferrer vs Bye
Fernando Verdasco (SPA) vs Alexander Dolgopolov (UKR)
Pablo Andujar (SPA) vs Qualifier
Donald Young (USA) vs [11]Gilles Simon (FRA)
[16]Richard Gasquet (FRA) vs Jurgen Melzer (AUT)
Nikolay Davidenko (RUS) vs Paolo Lorenzi (ITA)
David Nalbandian (ARG) vs Qualifier
[4] Andy Murray (GBR) vs Bye

[7] Tomas Berdych (CZE) vs Bye
Lukasz Kubot (POL) vs Potito Starace (ITA)
Jarko Nieminen (FIN) vs Qualifer
Marin Cilic (CRO) vs [12]Nicolas Almagro (SPA)
[15]Feliciano Lopez (SPA) vs Marcel Granollers (SPA)
Fabio Fognini (ITA) vs Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)
Milos Raonic (CAN) vs Florian Mayer (GER)
[2] Rafael Nadal vs Bye

fivebargate
05-12-2012, 12:18 PM
Fuc.ing draw, really i am angry that Milos was once again has supertough R2. He needs points and he is good enough to get them, but not with Federer, Nadal so early.

Maybe....but the experience of playing these guys regularly is invaluable....and it's already showing in his game.

n8
05-12-2012, 12:32 PM
The chances of the two highest ranked non-seeded players (Verdasco and Dolgopolov) playing each other in the first round is pretty small. And then having the 5th seed after that!

2008 finalist Wawrinka has a nice draw. I hope he can make the quarter-finals.

tennishero
05-12-2012, 12:35 PM
another horrific draw for nalbandian,

R1 Qualifier
R2 Murray
R3 Davydenko/Gasquet
QF Ferrer
SF Nadal/Berdych
F Novak/Federer

Snowwy
05-12-2012, 12:38 PM
another horrific draw for nalbandian,

R1 Qualifier
R2 Murray
R3 Davydenko/Gasquet
QF Ferrer
SF Nadal/Berdych
F Novak/Federer

That's what happens when you are unranked and about 50 players in the world would be favourites against you.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 12:38 PM
Shit. Nadal could be in trouble in R2, facing the future GOAT.

mystic ice cube
05-12-2012, 12:39 PM
Raonic in round two will be a massive test for Nadal if the conditions aren't super slow & he can find the form he was in against Federer.

henke007
05-12-2012, 12:39 PM
Another game for Milos :)

Great draw for Roger

paseo
05-12-2012, 12:40 PM
Federer must be in despair seeing Berlocq could become his first opponent.

BauerAlmeida
05-12-2012, 12:42 PM
Federer must be in despair seeing Berlocq could become his first opponent.

Wow, I didn't realize that.

That much could be epic.

Mystique
05-12-2012, 12:46 PM
Good draw for Feds, but he sucks on the Rome courts off late. 2010: 2rd loss to Gulbis, 2011: 3rd loss to Gasquet. So there is no guarantee he will take advantage of his draw and even reach the semis. And it also depends on what happens in Madrid, whether he can win the title, and importantly come away unscathed physically.

Hope Rao beats Rafa in 2nd Rd, time to nab one of the top fish Milos :D
But realistically, Nadal should win that match, he will be fired up after the Madrid fiasco.

I am sure Djokovic and Nadal will come into the tournament wanting to prove they are the top dogs on the "real clay" so yeah watch the Spartas grunt their way through the draw:p

Ash86
05-12-2012, 12:48 PM
Technically Federer hasn't confirmed he's playing Rome, but with this draw you'd think he'd definitely turn up:

Roger Federer will leave it until the last minute to make a decision regarding whether he plays the Rome Masters starting on Monday.

With pressing matters on court right now in Madrid, the Swiss is focusing all of his energies on doing well in the Spanish capital. If he wins the Masters on Sunday, Federer will take over behind Novak Djokovic, sending Rafael Nadal back to third.

Federer is making no promises, letting his instincts on the day - and those of his coaches - rule. With his solid run at Madrid, his only focus is his next match.

"There is a good chance I will play," he said after reaching the quarter-finals. "But I have all my options available. For the last couple of months I've taken it week by week.

"After Davis Cup (February loss to the US) I then decided if I was going to play Miami or even Indian Wells and Miami. It's the same situation here, we'll see how it goes."

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20120512/Federer_to_make_late_decision_on_Rome

Mystique
05-12-2012, 12:54 PM
Er, thanks for sharing that. Thats surprising, he took 6 weeks off and now MAY play just one week on clay before RG? Thats crazy.

Allez
05-12-2012, 12:58 PM
I'm glad Raonic has drawn Rafa in the 2nd round. Time to put to bed all that nonsense about Milos Raonic being Nadal's "worst nightmare" on real clay :facepalm: Rafa has zero match up issues with Milos and Rome will prove it.

On paper Roger has the easiest quarter but he had a pretty easy quarter in Miami as well only to see an inspired Duck send him off on an extended break. If he does well in Madrid then losing early in Rome may not be that big of an issue although he'll probably slip back behind Rafa in the rankings. Again...for Roger I don't think it matters much whether he is ranked 2nd or 3rd going into RG. That would only matter if Rafa were ranked number 1.

Looking forward to the Nole Pony clash :yeah:

Finally it will be sooooo goooood to have Murray back. He is well rested and though clay is not his favourite surface who knows what will happen especially if Rafa somehow fails to make the semis :shrug:

Looner
05-12-2012, 12:59 PM
If Raonic beats RN in the 2nd round, which I very, very much doubt, Feds gets no.2 for RG (provided he wins Madrid which is no gimmie) even if doesn't play Rome.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 01:00 PM
Well see what Milos is made of.

Stronga23
05-12-2012, 01:03 PM
Roger please withdraw for your good buddy and practice partner. Gael's draw would be wide open :)

Lopez
05-12-2012, 01:10 PM
Think Nadal & Nole should show even more dedication to their RG quest by tanking their first matches here to the young ones - Nole to Tomic, Rafa to Raonic - would be kind of hilarious. :devil:

Nadal's first match is the worst part of his draw. Other than that it's slow clay so you'd expect him to be okay even if Almagro, Berdych, Ferrer etc. can be tough.

WTF? Since when was Rome slow clay? Historically it's always been the fastest clay event, now it's different with Madrid coming along (since Madrid plays at an altitude).

For Pete's sake (pun intended) it's the one clay Masters that Sampras won!

Mystique
05-12-2012, 01:14 PM
For Pete's sake (pun intended) it's the one clay Masters that Sampras won!

Fluke. Weak era.


Oh wait

:lol:

MachineGun
05-12-2012, 01:21 PM
Fed has the easiest draw until the SF of the 4, hands down. For once.

Nadal-Raonic as a second round. How interesting!

GSMnadal
05-12-2012, 01:28 PM
People complaining about Raonic in round 2 should look at Fed's horror draw, he's on crash course with Charly Berlocq.

scarecrows
05-12-2012, 01:43 PM
another horrific draw for nalbandian,

R1 Qualifier
R2 Murray
R3 Davydenko/Gasquet
QF Ferrer
SF Nadal/Berdych
F Novak/Federer

i dont understand why you keep doing that

for fatty a 3d round is an achievement lately

Filo V.
05-12-2012, 01:48 PM
Filippo will make at least R3 here. He will upset Tsonga.

Filo V.
05-12-2012, 01:49 PM
Why are people writing in Raonic for R2? Flo Mayer can definitely beat him.

misty1
05-12-2012, 01:51 PM
Why are people writing in Raonic for R2? Flo Mayer can definitely beat him.

flo mayer has been in shit form all year. Ofcourse albert was too and he beat milos but milos didnt play that well either

Ash86
05-12-2012, 01:54 PM
WTF? Since when was Rome slow clay? Historically it's always been the fastest clay event, now it's different with Madrid coming along (since Madrid plays at an altitude).

For Pete's sake (pun intended) it's the one clay Masters that Sampras won!

I meant relative to Madrid's conditions which really suited Raonic. Obviously it's not as slow as MC or Barcelona. Overall though Rome suits Nadal - will be an interesting match for sure. Raonic's confidence seems to be rising and Nadal's will be lower than it was given the Verdasco loss but he'll have a point to prove & I find it hard to see Raonic breaking Nadal in Rome unless Nadal breaks himself like in Madrid...

In some ways a good thing because as Nadal will most likely face him now it won't be as worrying if he turns up in the RG draw - have a chance to play him on clay already and be prepared.

Filo V.
05-12-2012, 01:54 PM
The match-up favors Mayer. I can definitely see him dissecting Raonic's game.

Filo V.
05-12-2012, 01:55 PM
Hopefully, Simone draws Nalbandian. This isn't mid-2000s Nalbandian anymore. If Simone draws Nalbandian, he'll win.

misty1
05-12-2012, 01:55 PM
The match-up favors Mayer. I can definitely see him dissecting Raonic's game.

yeah but isnt clay like his least favorite surface? and, again he has been horrible all year

if he was playing like he was last year i'd agree but not now

misty1
05-12-2012, 01:56 PM
Hopefully, Simone draws Nalbandian. This isn't mid-2000s Nalbandian anymore. If Simone draws Nalbandian, he'll win.

he has to qualify first and i dont think he's got a draw that will allow him too. Either he loses to querrey in the first round or goes down in the last one

scarecrows
05-12-2012, 01:59 PM
Hopefully, Simone draws Nalbandian. This isn't mid-2000s Nalbandian anymore. If Simone draws Nalbandian, he'll win.

you think simo will qualify?

Nr 1 Fan
05-12-2012, 02:01 PM
Raonic unlucky again.

asmazif
05-12-2012, 02:29 PM
First round Verdasco - Dolgopolov, winner plays Ferrer :eek:

That's just absurd.

Nole fan
05-12-2012, 02:30 PM
As usual, Rafa and Muzza have the easiest draw.

Ash86
05-12-2012, 02:37 PM
As usual, Rafa and Muzza have the easiest draw.

In what way is Raonic 2nd round an easy draw? Berdych as a QF - the guy who's currently in the Madrid semis... Murray has Nalbandian, Ferrer etc. in his draw - not easy on clay at all. In fact not sure if Muzza has ever beaten Ferrer on clay.

Novak's is tough in that he has Del Po in his quarter but other than that it's fine - Tomic is easy, Monaco's just back from injury etc....

Fed's the only one with an easy draw.

70-68
05-12-2012, 02:51 PM
As usual, Rafa and Muzza have the easiest draw.

:confused: :scratch:
not sure if serious




:silly:

abraxas21
05-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Raonic has such bad luck with Masters1000 draws this year.
IW - Federer (eventual winner) 3rd round
Miami - Murray (eventual finalist) 3rd round
Madrid - Federer 2nd round
Rome - Nadal 2nd round

yup... pretty unlucky but i believe it will do him a lot of good on the long run. with each passing tough match he should be gaining confidence. he does have the game to beat top players and i think he knows he'll be able to do so eventually.

as for his possible R2 match v. nadal, he won't win but he should be able to make nadal a litle bit nervous at some point.

GOAT = Fed
05-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Unlucky for Raonic, damn the guy isn't getting a break.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 03:57 PM
Good stuff. If Milos plays like he did in the last two tournaments (Barcelona and Madrid), he has a real opportunity to take out that whiner Nadal on the "real clay."

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Why are people writing in Raonic for R2? Flo Mayer can definitely beat him.
Not the way the two are playing right now. I'd expect Milos to walk over Mayer if he keeps his level up.

hipolymer
05-12-2012, 04:14 PM
Looking forward to Piggy losing more points. He'll never see the light of number 1 again.

KoOlMaNsEaN
05-12-2012, 04:15 PM
These draws where (3)Federer is constantly put in (1)Djokovic's half are why everyone knows that if Fed gets #2 seed for RG, Nadal and Djokovic will be in the same half for RG...

abraxas21
05-12-2012, 04:19 PM
potential frauderer v. the warlocq match in R2.

watch olderer get double bageled

Sapeod
05-12-2012, 04:26 PM
Tricky draw for Murray but his back seems to be fine and he's back training already. Looking forward to this tournament. Murray can do some damage here if he's back in form.
Looking forward to Nadal clipping Berdych's wings again:drool:
If Nadal couldn't beat Verdasco how is he going to beat Berdych? :lol:
you should be happy, at least he didn't get delpo this time.
:spit:

dencod16
05-12-2012, 04:30 PM
Melzer-Gasquet and Almagro-Cilic best first round matches i think. Djokovic got the toughest draw with Argentinians del Potro and Monaco, if Pico has the same form before his injury, Djokovic need to pull thru. Federer has the easiest draw to the semis, Isner can be tough though. And for everyones knowledge Rome's surface is similar to Roland Garros.

reery
05-12-2012, 04:31 PM
These draws where (3)Federer is constantly put in (1)Djokovic's half are why everyone knows that if Fed gets #2 seed for RG, Nadal and Djokovic will be in the same half for RG...

Affirmative.

GOAT = Fed
05-12-2012, 04:31 PM
Looking forward to Piggy losing more points. He'll never see the light of number 1 again.

Good, good, let the hate flow through you.

TigerTim
05-12-2012, 04:33 PM
Olderer is Gunna be bringing Djoke to his Shanananaanana knees.

Federer in 2
05-12-2012, 04:33 PM
Fed had a way easier draw than Rafole in Miami.
And he had a way harder draw than them in IW and Madrid.
And look what happend.

What does it say about Rome? :(

Gagsquet
05-12-2012, 04:33 PM
Tricky draw for Murray


Horrible draw for Murray, he gets Gasquet in third round.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 04:34 PM
If Nadal couldn't beat Verdasco how is he going to beat Berdych? :lol:

Like that will be a habit. Come on be serious for once :lol:

Orka_n
05-12-2012, 04:38 PM
Pretty interesting draw for once, but boring placement of top 4 like usual.

Nadal - Raonic will be yummy, as someone said too bad it's on slow clay but Raonic will give Rafa a run for his money for sure.

dencod16
05-12-2012, 04:42 PM
People are complaining about Raonic drawing Nadal in the second round. He is not seeded so the chances of that happening is high. at least he didnt draw top players in the first round.

Alex999
05-12-2012, 04:44 PM
wow, really tough draw for Djokovic.

reery
05-12-2012, 04:49 PM
Drawing Raonic seems to be a good omen lately for the top players, at least finals. :o

tennishero
05-12-2012, 04:55 PM
i dont understand why you keep doing that

for fatty a 3d round is an achievement lately

its about playing matches, building momentum. and qualifying for the olympics. with these draws, he likely wont do any.

Sapeod
05-12-2012, 04:58 PM
Horrible draw for Murray, he gets Gasquet in third round.
Nalbandian can be a tricky opponent, so can Gasquet. Murray's draw is pretty hard. That said, if Murray is in form neither of them stand a chance.

m9m9m9m9m9
05-12-2012, 05:00 PM
This is not blue clay, Milos is not gonna trouble Rafa by any means here..had they meet in Madrid, I am sure Milos would have win..
Another worst possible draw for Milos, need to get up the ranking asap
But can't really complain too much, he got his best draw in Monte Carlo and lost to Montanes in 1st round

Adri89
05-12-2012, 05:07 PM
Raonic isn't lucky with his draws. I'm curious to watch what he can oppose to Nadal.

My only hope is that Ferrero gets his first win of the year on the ATP Tour (if you don't include DC). A R3 against Federer would be great.

ServeVolley
05-12-2012, 05:09 PM
Nadal gets Raonic in his first match? Awesome. :D

Fireballer
05-12-2012, 05:16 PM
Nalbandian can be a tricky opponent, so can Gasquet. Murray's draw is pretty hard. That said, if Murray is in form neither of them stand a chance.

I doubt he will be in form

reery
05-12-2012, 05:22 PM
I had predicted Federer for Madrid and here in Rome it's either Nadal or Djokovic, can't decide..

ChampionshipPoints
05-12-2012, 05:27 PM
This is not blue clay, Milos is not gonna trouble Rafa by any means here..had they meet in Madrid, I am sure Milos would have win..
Another worst possible draw for Milos, need to get up the ranking asap
But can't really complain too much, he got his best draw in Monte Carlo and lost to Montanes in 1st round

I wonder how far up the rankings he'd be if it weren't for those shitty draws, because he could have gone much deeper in these Masters... Really unlucky!

m9m9m9m9m9
05-12-2012, 05:41 PM
I wonder how far up the rankings he'd be if it weren't for those shitty draws, because he could have gone much deeper in these Masters... Really unlucky!

especially Milos can really go deep in Madrid had he not draw Federer in such an early stage :(

Allez
05-12-2012, 06:02 PM
These draws where (3)Federer is constantly put in (1)Djokovic's half are why everyone knows that if Fed gets #2 seed for RG, Nadal and Djokovic will be in the same half for RG...

:bs: The only guarantee is that the number 1 and 2 seeds cannot meet before the final. The rest is just a lottery draw. There have been plenty of times where number 2 & 3 seeds have met in the semis...the Australian Open being the most recent example. Unless you've only just started following tennis in Madrid you will recall that Roger was NOT in the same half as Djokovic despite being seeded third. He was in Rafa's half and he got the usual pummeling :o

Stop perpetuating the myth that the draw is fixed for the top 4 players because it isn't :rolleyes:

BauerAlmeida
05-12-2012, 06:08 PM
Nalbandian can be a tricky opponent, so can Gasquet. Murray's draw is pretty hard. That said, if Murray is in form neither of them stand a chance.

If Nalbandian is in form, Murray doesn't stand a chance.

But he won't be probably and may even lose in the 1st round.

Gagsquet
05-12-2012, 06:22 PM
If Gasquet is in form, he may beat Nalbandian for the first time but thanks god, he will lose to Murray and Gasquet will destroy the Scottish.

ChampionshipPoints
05-12-2012, 06:32 PM
especially Milos can really go deep in Madrid had he not draw Federer in such an early stage :(

He certainly would have been seeded and would avoid all those unfavorable draws altogether.

But I think he can realize the upset against Nadal and, with the confidence boost, all this will have been a positive experience.

BTW, he's up to 20 in the rankings next Monday.:)

habibko
05-12-2012, 06:42 PM
good draw overall

Federer in 2
05-12-2012, 06:44 PM
Is Rome played on slow clay like MC and Barca? Or is it closer to the fast clay of Madrid (Even when it was red)?

habibko
05-12-2012, 06:46 PM
why isn't Federer confirmed for Rome anyway, why is skipping it an option?

HKz
05-12-2012, 06:47 PM
Raonic vs. Nadal certainly something to look forward to obviously after seeing his performance against Federer. Considering Nadal is not that great at returning huge serves like Federer who can block many serves back, Raonic has a small chance there even if it isn't on a faster clay surface like Madrid is.

Edit: Oh wow, I didn't see who Raonic was playing against. If Flo makes it through, he has an interesting match against Nadal as well especially considering he beat Nadal last year and Flo can play very well on clay. So either player would be great to watch against Rafa.

samanosuke
05-12-2012, 06:51 PM
I will pray to God to lead Milos through the match against Mayer. Flo is an awful match up for big guys with huge serves

cutesteve22
05-12-2012, 06:56 PM
It's really hard to reckon how well Murray plays...

Coolio_Jack
05-12-2012, 06:57 PM
I will pray to God to lead Milos through the match against Mayer. Flo is an awful match up for big guys with huge serves

Even if Flo somehow magicaly rediscovers his form, he doesnt have much chance against Milos. Its true that Flo matches up well against big servers, but Milos has much more game then most of them.

Ash86
05-12-2012, 06:57 PM
I will pray to God to lead Milos through the match against Mayer. Flo is an awful match up for big guys with huge serves

Well even then Florian has a winning H2H against Nadal so you might still get your wish of a Nadal defeat. ;) Will be rooting for Mayer so Rafa has a shot at evening up that H2H. Even if it's Raonic though Nadal is still the big favourite - as much as people keep going on about how Nadal can't block returns etc. like Federer, Nadal is the only one of the big 3 who hasn't lost to Isner/Karlovic/Raonic. Fed has lost to 2 of those players and was close to losing to the third.

On clay you'd still favour Nadal - it's a big test but then he's had some easy draws this year so it was bound to even out at some point.

AntiTennis
05-12-2012, 07:01 PM
Nadal Raonic? interesting match

samanosuke
05-12-2012, 07:05 PM
Even if Flo somehow magicaly rediscovers his form, he doesnt have much chance against Milos. Its true that Flo matches up well against big servers, but Milos has much more game then most of them.

you are ignoring the most important fact. It's a match before nadal's match and you know how guys who can hurt nadal finishing before they meet him

motorhead
05-12-2012, 07:08 PM
Raonic-Mayer tomorrow already?

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 07:10 PM
Nadal very unlucky my god, Raonic R2 that is a dangerous oneeeeee

ZaZoo)
05-12-2012, 07:10 PM
you are ignoring the most important fact. It's a match before nadal's match and you know how guys who can hurt nadal finishing before they meet him

yeah, after having great Madrid last year, Bellucci was drawn to meet Piggy in R2 and oh surprise, lost in R1 to Lorenzi. :o

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 07:10 PM
Raonic vs. Nadal certainly something to look forward to obviously after seeing his performance against Federer. Considering Nadal is not that great at returning huge serves like Federer who can block many serves back, Raonic has a small chance there even if it isn't on a faster clay surface like Madrid is.

Edit: Oh wow, I didn't see who Raonic was playing against. If Flo makes it through, he has an interesting match against Nadal as well especially considering he beat Nadal last year and Flo can play very well on clay. So either player would be great to watch against Rafa.

Mayer is not that good on clay................ and he beat Nadal on a relatively fast hard court. Nadal will be thanking the heavens if Florian upsets Raonic

HKz
05-12-2012, 07:13 PM
Mayer is not that good on clay................ and he beat Nadal on a relatively fast hard court. Nadal will be thanking the heavens if Florian upsets Raonic

Please do not fucking talk anymore on this forum. Mayer reached his very first Master Series QF where? Rome last year. Out of his 5 finals, how many of them were on clay? 4 of them, with his only title being on clay as well. This guy can't play on clay? You're such a joke when it comes to anything about tennis.

samanosuke
05-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Nadal very unlucky my god, Raonic R2 that is a dangerous oneeeeee

no worry. something is gonna happen with Milos. nadal having a tough opponent in R2 would mean end of the world

Coolio_Jack
05-12-2012, 07:16 PM
yeah, after having great Madrid last year, Bellucci was drawn to meet Piggy in R2 and oh surprise, lost in R1 to Lorenzi. :o

Better example is Milos injuring himself against Muller, when Nadal waited in R2 at Wimbledon. IMO, he was already then ready to beat Nadal.

Naudio Spanlatine
05-12-2012, 07:17 PM
Raonic vs Nadal:sobbing: :o

Fed vs Tipsy again:superlol:

Nole vs either Jo or Delpo:banghead:

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 07:24 PM
I wonder how far up the rankings he'd be if it weren't for those shitty draws, because he could have gone much deeper in these Masters... Really unlucky!
Not too worried about his ranking. If Milos keeps playing at this level and stays healthy, it will climb with time. He can gain confidence and experience by playing the top players like this right now.

Corey Feldman
05-12-2012, 07:30 PM
Raonic- Nadal :D

Fed gets a MM draw :D

life is sweet again

Fireballer
05-12-2012, 07:31 PM
Nadal will destroy anyone in Rome

Allez
05-12-2012, 07:43 PM
Raonic- Nadal :D

Fed gets a MM draw :D

life is sweet again

Miami draw :shrug:

guga2120
05-12-2012, 08:23 PM
I think Andy could do well here. He has been in Rome all week getting ready. Federer, gets a cakewalk, as usual. Will not matter though, b/c the #1 will be waiting for him the sf.

kiriri***
05-12-2012, 08:29 PM
Please do not fucking talk anymore on this forum. Mayer reached his very first Master Series QF where? Rome last year. Out of his 5 finals, how many of them were on clay? 4 of them, with his only title being on clay as well. This guy can't play on clay? You're such a joke when it comes to anything about tennis.

Agreed. His favorite surface is clay but this year is terrible result on that:o
Actually he can any surface except fast HC;)

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 08:40 PM
Please do not fucking talk anymore on this forum. Mayer reached his very first Master Series QF where? Rome last year. Out of his 5 finals, how many of them were on clay? 4 of them, with his only title being on clay as well. This guy can't play on clay? You're such a joke when it comes to anything about tennis.

that's just not true, you talk out of your ass, as though just because Mayer has had success at Mickey Mouse clay tournaments it means anything.... next thing you know you will be proclaiming the winner of Delray Beach each year as 'ones to watch on hard court'.

it's not that he CANT play on clay, it's that you're being ludicrous and silly if you think that Florian Mayer is a player that everyone on the tour is particularly concerned about meeting on clay. he is not drastically better on this surface than anywhere else and obviously you are not very familiar with his success at any clay masters or Roland Garros in the ENTIRETY of his career :o :o :o

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 08:42 PM
no worry. something is gonna happen with Milos. nadal having a tough opponent in R2 would mean end of the world

haha because the whole ATP is scheming for Nadal right? because he gets along and agrees with them so much........... :smash:

Mountaindewslave
05-12-2012, 08:43 PM
Agreed. His favorite surface is clay but this year is terrible result on that:o
Actually he can any surface except fast HC;)

as far as any tournaments above 250 level clay, he has not had much success on the surface. fact.

ServeVolley
05-12-2012, 08:52 PM
Didn't Tomic beat Djokovic in an exhibition, and run him pretty close at Wimbledon last year? I'd love to see him pull an upset. :D

Federer in 2
05-12-2012, 09:00 PM
Didn't Tomic beat Djokovic in an exhibition, and run him pretty close at Wimbledon last year? I'd love to see him pull an upset. :D

Come on now man. Aint happening.

ServeVolley
05-12-2012, 09:02 PM
I think Andy could do well here. He has been in Rome all week getting ready. Federer, gets a cakewalk, as usual. Will not matter though, b/c the #1 will be waiting for him the sf.

Look at his draws this year and tell me which have been cakewalks - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Roger_Federer_tennis_season

In Australia, he had Beck, Karlovic, Tomic, Del Potro, Nadal.

In Indian Wells, he had Raonic, Bellucci, Del Potro, Nadal, Isner.

In Madrid, he's had Raonic, Gasquet, Ferrer, Tipsarevic, Berdych.

Hardly "cakewalks", are they? ;)

Roger the Dodger
05-12-2012, 09:11 PM
Watch Raonic make Nadal his Smurfette.

ServeVolley
05-12-2012, 09:14 PM
Come on now man. Aint happening.

I thought the same about Verdasco/Nadal a few days ago. :shrug:

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 09:34 PM
I thought the same about Verdasco/Nadal a few days ago. :shrug:
Verdasco beating Nadal on this blue clay is much more likely than Tomic beating Djokovic on red clay I think.

jackjill888
05-12-2012, 09:55 PM
WTF man !!! I did not expect this kinda draw from Rome officials for such a prestige event. Its a shame that the draw has been tailor-made in favor of 2012 Rome Masters Champ Filippo Volandri. Grow up ATP.

Chase Visa
05-12-2012, 10:26 PM
Didn't Tomic beat Djokovic in an exhibition, and run him pretty close at Wimbledon last year? I'd love to see him pull an upset. :D

Not happening on clay and there's a realistic chance he loses to a qualifier.

Filo V.
05-13-2012, 12:17 AM
you think simo will qualify?

:sad: I thought he'd at least be Querrey.

I didn't realistically think he'd beat Kukushkin, though. Oh well, just another failed week.

Kukushkin can beat Nalbandian if he draws him. Several guys in the qualifying can beat Nalbandian.

Filo V.
05-13-2012, 12:20 AM
WTF man !!! I did not expect this kinda draw from Rome officials for such a prestige event. Its a shame that the draw has been tailor-made in favor of 2012 Rome Masters Champ Filippo Volandri. Grow up ATP.
I don't know if Filippo will win the title, but he should beat Tsonga, and it's basically a requirement. Then JMDP will squash him badly. However if somehow Bellucci or Youzhny beat Del Potro, Filippo can make the QF, and he'll lose there to Nole.

Seppi is the Italian with the good draw. He should make R3, and then he'll likely have to upset Wawa (who will beat Janko in R2) to make the QF, but if Roger deletes himself from this event, hopefully he or Wawa make the SF.

ChampionshipPoints
05-13-2012, 02:09 AM
Not too worried about his ranking. If Milos keeps playing at this level and stays healthy, it will climb with time. He can gain confidence and experience by playing the top players like this right now.

The sooner the ranking goes up, the sooner he'll be seeded in these events and avoid meeting top players too early to go deep in tournaments. He'd still be playing top players and "gain confidence and experience", but later in the tournies, thereby killing 2 birds with one stone.

Topspindoctor
05-13-2012, 11:04 AM
As usual, Rafa and Muzza have the easiest draw.

Raonic in R2 is easy? LOL.

Renaud
05-13-2012, 11:09 AM
Raonic in R2 is easy? LOL.
Yes it is.
Even the swiss journeyman managed to beat this serve-bot on a much faster surface...

Moozza
05-13-2012, 11:40 AM
I can't nadal losing to Raonic, nonetheless he is not a player you will want to face that early in a draw.

Chase Visa
05-13-2012, 11:42 AM
I can't nadal losing to Raonic, nonetheless he is not a player you will want to face that early in a draw.

Exactly.

Even Mayer could be a tricky proposition for Nadal. Berdych is a threat on paper but not in practice.

Noleta
05-13-2012, 02:13 PM
Though draw for Novak:spit:And Rafa vs Raonic:eek:Feel sorry for him,Madrid he had Roger,now Rafa:spit:

Mateya
05-13-2012, 04:24 PM
Chela - Stepanek :cool:

Seppi - Istomin :rocker2:

Starace - Kubot (Diana :hug:)

Kneedal -Raonic is a blockbuster 2nd round.
Rafa will be pissed off after the joke Madrid event and will probably destroy everybody until the Godovic final where he could be roasted again. :)

cardio
05-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Nadal will win it. He has statement to make, to get back his # 2 spot and his confidence. Ha cant afford to fool around any more.

SheepleBuster
05-13-2012, 09:31 PM
Raonic already lost to Mayer

Sapeod
05-14-2012, 01:12 AM
If Nalbandian is in form, Murray doesn't stand a chance.
Actually, if Nalbandian is in form then he'll have a shot at beating Murray. If Murray is in form, then it's Nalbandian who won't stand any chance.

Who's won their last four matches? :lol:
If Gasquet is in form, he may beat Nalbandian for the first time but thanks god, he will lose to Murray and Gasquet will destroy the Scottish.
Like the other times he's destroyed Murray, right? :lol:

Filo V.
05-14-2012, 01:17 AM
Ramos has at least a 50% chance v Nalbandian.

Topspindoctor
05-14-2012, 01:19 AM
Nadal's draw got considerably easier with Raonic out of the way. I don't see a clown like Mugyer seriously testing him.

guga2120
05-14-2012, 01:51 AM
Nadal's draw got considerably easier with Raonic out of the way. I don't see a clown like Mugyer seriously testing him.

Raonic would not have troubled him. His draw is pretty easy in general. I just wonder who will make it out other quarter. I hope Murray, he has been practicing like crazy this week.

tektonac
05-14-2012, 02:01 AM
Raonic would not have troubled him. His draw is pretty easy in general. I just wonder who will make it out other quarter. I hope Murray, he has been practicing like crazy this week.

Mummay stands no chance against Nadal.

Sauletekis
05-14-2012, 02:13 AM
Murray will get trashed by Fat Dave in 2nd round...

Topspindoctor
05-14-2012, 02:19 AM
Murray will get trashed by Fat Dave in 2nd round...

Hopefully.

Pushray should be thrashed on clay be any decent player.

cmoss
05-14-2012, 02:27 AM
This is perfect surface for Isner,too bad he is in Federer's quarter.

Perhaps an Isner-Nadal final.:rolleyes:

bari1991
05-14-2012, 02:35 AM
In 2011 this tournament brought us some good matches with lots of excitement.Djokovic v Murray and Djokovic v Nadal were joy to watch.Hopefully this year we'll see some matches like that.

duchuy89
05-14-2012, 05:28 AM
Djokovic vs Tomic
Nadal vs Raonic :superlol:

and Fed?

MurrayMagic1
05-14-2012, 07:49 AM
Why are all wishing that Murray loses this tournament anyway. *rolls eyes* Every single fuckin TIME! He played a great tournament last year! In my opinion If Fed plays Rome then he will probably win the tournament. Murray will challenge him in the final.

Topspindoctor
05-14-2012, 07:54 AM
What's with the arrogant Pushraytards popping up all of a sudden?
Nadal owns this pusher with no forehand. If Mugray manages to reach SF, Nadal will force feed him haggis until he submits. Book it.

J99
05-14-2012, 08:49 AM
What's with the arrogant Pushraytards popping up all of a sudden?
Nadal owns this pusher with no forehand. If Mugray manages to reach SF, Nadal will force feed him haggis until he submits. Book it.

Murray probably won't get past Ferrer, book it, if he even gets past his 1st 2 matches, Ferrer is as far as he'll go though.

cardio
05-14-2012, 09:05 AM
I also have a feeling that Rome final will be played without Djoko and without Federer. Djoko doesnt need another final vs Nadal because his form is not good enough to beat Rafa. Fed is 30 y. o. and his body is not recovering quickly enough to play 2 full masters in a row. He already took pills in Madrid final, perhaps he needs more rest to be fresh and healthy in Paris.

asmazif
05-14-2012, 09:10 AM
and Fed?

The best player in the world - the almighty Warlocq

J99
05-14-2012, 09:11 AM
I also have a feeling that Rome final will be played without Djoko and without Federer. Djoko doesnt need another final vs Nadal because his form is not good enough to beat Rafa. Fed is 30 y. o. and his body is not recovering quickly enough to play 2 full masters in a row. He already took pills in Madrid final, perhaps he needs more rest to be fresh and healthy in Paris.

Nole has a tough draw for sure.

Federer taking pills which I saw, was that for his back again?

Moozza
05-14-2012, 09:14 AM
Andy will be back in form and get to the SF here, at least.

Federer in 2
05-14-2012, 10:26 AM
How is the clay in Rome? Slow like MC/Barca or is it more like the fast clay of RG?

lucyfur
05-14-2012, 10:32 AM
How is the clay in Rome? Slow like MC/Barca or is it more like the fast clay of RG?

I'm watching it now and it looks like slow motion compared to Madrid.

EliSter
05-14-2012, 11:33 AM
I'm watching it now and it looks like slow motion compared to Madrid.

Good. That is clay ment to be.

Topspindoctor
05-14-2012, 11:35 AM
I watched a little as well.

It's slow. Bad news for Serverer :awww:

Roger the Dodger
05-14-2012, 05:14 PM
I watched a little as well.

It's slow. Bad news for Serverer :awww:

Serverer might slice through the draw.

As long as he doesn't come in as Twinfatherer, I will be relieved. Nearly lost yesterday in that avi, even on the fast smurface.

Nole fan
05-14-2012, 06:18 PM
I watched a little as well.

It's slow. Bad news for Serverer :awww:

Poor Roger, I think his stay at #2 will be very brief. :awww: