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Blue clay poll

eskinol
05-10-2012, 11:34 PM
Here's a poll with some possible attitudes toward the blue clay...I listed nine options based on various things people have been saying in the news. What do you think?
Edit: I picked
Mixed; court is fine, but the players should have been consulted first
Approve; the new color is a lot better on TV

ossie
05-10-2012, 11:56 PM
hot ball girls

MIMIC
05-10-2012, 11:59 PM
Is there a way to have changed the color without disrupting or altering the makeup of the clay? Or was that not the initial intentions (to keep the court playing the way it formerly did)?

blank_frackis
05-11-2012, 12:02 AM
I like the colour, but obviously the surface itself is causing problems. Although it has to be said that tennis players are incredibly pernickety about small changes and may be reading problems into it which aren't there - i.e. they slip on a normal claycourt and shrug it off, they slip on this one and start ranting about blue clay.

viruzzz
05-11-2012, 12:16 AM
Like the color.
Like it's a fast surface (love this clay variety).
Like the innovation.

Dislike the non-tradition.
Dislike the players had no voice on this.

Think they should had try it first in the ATP Bucharest and see how it works out. Come on Tiriac...

Topspindoctor
05-11-2012, 12:17 AM
Like the color.
Like it's a fast surface (love this clay variety).
Like the innovation.

Dislike the non-tradition.
Dislike the players had no voice on this.

Think they should had try it first in the ATP Bucharest and see how it works out. Come on Tiriac...

http://www.calpoly.edu/~egorrell/clown.jpg

viruzzz
05-11-2012, 12:22 AM
http://www.calpoly.edu/~egorrell/clown.jpg

I actually lol'd at that. And I would consider it a serious post by any other user.

But... Beeing you, I mean... Is not that I disrespect you... But you're...

How can I explain it...




:wavey:

hipolymer
05-11-2012, 12:28 AM
I don't mind the color of the court or its speed. It's the danger it poses for players and its place in the schedule.

156mphserve
05-11-2012, 12:40 AM
It's not the color of the clay that's causing the crappy courts. They're crappy anyway, they were last year too. People just see a problem and think that's it, but the problem was there last year too.

I like the blue, there's no rule that says clay has to be slow and bounce to a certain height, we have hard courts that are slow so why can't we have clay that is fast?

imo they could fix the problem and still have the clay blue because it's not the blue causing the problem. Whether it would still be fast I don't know.

in short I approve of the blue color but disapprove of the shit clay

Art&Soul
05-11-2012, 01:07 AM
I like the Blue clay, so good to see it ;)

HKz
05-11-2012, 01:08 AM
Any change from the norm is always nice.

abraxas21
05-11-2012, 01:14 AM
at first i was against it but now that i know that nadal sucks at it, i'm in favour

viruzzz
05-11-2012, 01:16 AM
We missed you, dude :)

Mjau!
05-11-2012, 01:32 AM
They should try shiny white clay at Rome. I bet it would look great in the sunlight!

Allez
05-11-2012, 06:27 AM
The colour is fab. Keep it and give everything else a do over.

Henry Chinaski
05-11-2012, 06:35 AM
the slipperiness on santana seems to be the main problem.

outside courts are a bit better. almgaro and ferrer ouldn't have produced such quality tennis on a bad court.

I love the speed, grudgingly admit the colour looks great but I guess the players aren't bitching so much for no reason.

Mountaindewslave
05-11-2012, 07:01 AM
the amount of idiots who voted "approve" after the vast majority of players announcing they dissaprove and/or hate the surface.... embrassing fans on MTF, ignorant enough to even say they like a surface that is potentially dangerous for players and of which players have publicly announced extreme distaste

as though the enjoyment of viewing trounces safety and players playing their best, REALLY

Mystique
05-11-2012, 07:11 AM
The colour is better than Iexpected but nothing matches red clay :shrug: There is an overdose of blue on the ATP tour anyway, if they wanted to change the colour, why not to green or something? :rolleyes:
The speed is good, but the surface seems dangerous, the way the players are slipping while sliding is less comical more scary.

So its a disapprove for me. The old clay of Madrid was just fine.

Looner
05-11-2012, 07:13 AM
I actually lol'd at that. And I would consider it a serious post by any other user.

But... Beeing you, I mean... Is not that I disrespect you... But you're...

How can I explain it...

:wavey:

http://www.calpoly.edu/~egorrell/clown.jpg

BroTree123
05-11-2012, 07:15 AM
hot ball girls

This. Although one downfall is their attire (ie. the lack of lower cut outfits).

Voo de Mar
05-11-2012, 07:21 AM
I like this color, nice to watch and suits to the concept which has been taking place for a few years since Australian Open and US Open changed colors of courts from green to blue. The risk of this innovation is that the blue will be a dominant color everywhere which would sucks because diversity is a part of good tennis tradition. Over the years actually irritated me only light blue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8sUcX5ZAC0) in Basel (and an angle characteristic for this tournament too) and pink/light green (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UesvPzwMoZA) at Paris-Bercy :o

dodo
05-11-2012, 08:58 AM
While I agree that its not the greatest surface in the world and its a bit odd to make a clay court behave like this, this DOES achieve one important thing: it plays a lot different than other courts. And variety is one of the things most sorely lacking in today's tennis surfaces. Significant technical and tactical adjustments based on surface have not been required for the last 5-6 years (with some exceptions, like Paris Masters when it used to be crazy fast), so good to see that coming back. Hope they keep trying out unorthodox stuff and find combinations that force players to adopt different styles without compromising the game. As for the clay being blue? Who cares, really. That part is just a gimmick.

Dmitry Verdasco
05-11-2012, 09:18 AM
I don't hate the color, it's the way the court plays that turns me off this whole event.

But I do love red clay, and I think that if this blue clay is to stay the tournament should be moved to the start of the clay season and let Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome run into RG. Sort of like where Charleston is on the WTA calendar.

GSMnadal
05-11-2012, 09:22 AM
Pre Madrid: 99% of MTF hated it

Nadal loses on it: 57% all of a sudden thinks it's fabulous, shows how little they actually care about tradition, court speed and all that stuff they're always moaning about.

As long as Nadal loses, they're happy.

MacTheKnife
05-11-2012, 10:51 AM
I really like the blue for TV.. So much easier to see the ball. They just need to work on the slippery issue which I read somewhere is not related to the color but the actual structure of these courts. I hope they keep giving this a shot and continue to improve it. The improved visibility is worth it.

superslam77
05-11-2012, 11:02 AM
Pre Madrid: 99% of MTF hated it

Nadal loses on it: 57% all of a sudden thinks it's fabulous, shows how little they actually care about tradition, court speed and all that stuff they're always moaning about.

As long as Nadal loses, they're happy.

-yes because he represents gamesmanship and cheating
-yes because this way of thinking came into existance to counter nadal's way of thinking "i have to win at any cost".
-yes because all courts were slowed down to his favour only to sell shirts to self touching fangirls.
-yes because of toni greed enslaved him for money
-yes because atp replaced hamburg with madrid to favor armada
-yes because it's payback :wavey:

Topspindoctor
05-11-2012, 11:07 AM
-yes because he represents gamesmanship and cheating
-yes because this way of thinking came into existance to counter nadal's way of thinking "i have to win at any cost".
-yes because all courts were slowed down to his favour only to sell shirts to self touching fangirls.
-yes because of toni greed enslaved him for money
-yes because atp replaced hamburg with madrid to favor armada
-yes because it's payback :wavey:

:baby:

superslam77
05-11-2012, 11:09 AM
i see you have the emoticon representing your idol there

buzz
05-11-2012, 11:12 AM
I like the colour and like the way it plays. If it is more risky for injuries than an average court it I don't like it(there are no real injuries are there?).

And when it plays a lot quicker than maybe make it the first master tourney or after RG.

Chase Visa
05-11-2012, 11:28 AM
I don't mind the colour, but the court conditions are terrible and it isn't good preparation for Roland Garros.

Chase Visa
05-11-2012, 11:29 AM
Tend to think this should be where Miami/IW should be - a fast clay to counteract the move from hard to clay.

Nr 1 Fan
05-11-2012, 11:35 AM
Like the variation , like how fast is, like the colour.
Dislike not communicating to the players, although they are blaming too much on the surface.

Don't get why it is fast though.

Nr 1 Fan
05-11-2012, 11:38 AM
Is the quality really that low, I think it's mostly in the head of the players.

RNW
05-11-2012, 11:40 AM
Almagro vs. Ferrer was a great match on a fantastic level of play.

Nr 1 Fan
05-11-2012, 11:57 AM
Fed-Raonic too

IsDonsIsGood
05-11-2012, 11:58 AM
The amount of complaining from the players is ****ing embarrassing. It just shows how allergic these guys are to a bit of variety. Providing the surface isn't dangerous, who cares if it's slippery? It rewards players that ATTACK instead of players that rely on RETRIEVING. An absolute breath of fresh air in the most homogenised era of tennis history.

Voo de Mar
05-11-2012, 12:00 PM
The amount of complaining from the players is ****ing embarrassing. It just shows how allergic these guys are to a bit of variety. Providing the surface isn't dangerous, who cares if it's slippery? It rewards players that ATTACK instead of players that rely on RETRIEVING. An absolute breath of fresh air in the most homogenised era of tennis history.

Courts in Madrid are much more better prepared than those at Monte Carlo where Monaco and Benneteau suffered terrible injuries :o

Dmitry Verdasco
05-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Courts in Madrid are much more better prepared than those at Monte Carlo where Monaco and Benneteau suffered terrible injuries :o

Umm... It's Monaco and Benneteau...

Who gives a fuck? :confused::confused::confused:

Chase Visa
05-11-2012, 01:03 PM
Umm... It's Monaco and Benneteau...

Who gives a fuck? :confused::confused::confused:

They're still injuries. Monaco's also a gun clay courter.

Paylu2007
05-11-2012, 02:33 PM
Other:

Approve, Nadal lostt early here.

:D

Orka_n
05-11-2012, 02:49 PM
I'm okay with the color and like that it's fast, but the main court is too slippery.

Ferrer and Mugro proved that it is possible to produce great tennis on this surface though.

As for the players, they should of course have a say. If they made it a bit easier to move on, I believe many of them would be fine with it though.

henke007
05-11-2012, 03:01 PM
I hope they put Blu Clay on all clay courts :)