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Whats the top 10 going to look like in 5 years?

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:22 AM
I dont remember if a thread like this has been done before, if it has I apologize. So who do you think will be in the top 10 5 years from now? you dont have to post what the ranking will be exactly but what players do you see having the top 10 spots?

mine:

milos raonic
david goffin
kei nishikori
bernard tomic
ricardas berankis
ryan harrisson
juan martin del potro
marin cilic
damir dzumhur
andrey kuznetsov

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:26 AM
Raonic
Nishikori
Tomic
Del Potro
Goffin
Dzumhur
Harrison
Murray
Berankis
Peliwo

hipolymer
05-09-2012, 12:26 AM
Most of those players will be in their 30s. You really think they'll all be in the top 10?

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:28 AM
Most of those players will be in their 30s. You really think they'll all be in the top 10?

all of these guys are in their early 20's right now. In 5 years they arent going to be 30

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:28 AM
in 5 years they will be in their 30's? They will be mid to late 20's;)

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:29 AM
Raonic
Nishikori
Tomic
Del Potro
Goffin
Dzumhur
Harrison
Murray
Berankis
Peliwo

Is that your predicted order of rank or is that jusr random like mine ?

also..peliwo in the top 10?

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 12:31 AM
The only one I agree with is Raonic in top 3.

Tomug in top 10 :haha:

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:33 AM
Bit of a strange question because who would've predicted this would be 2012's Top 10?

Djokovic
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Tipsaveric
Fish
Isner

Who had heard of Tsonga or Isner? Who would've thought Tipsy would be anything better than a journeyman? Who would've thought Ferrer was top 5 material? Who would've thought Fish would break his injury curse and reach the top 10?

For a prediction as of now:

Raonic
Tomic
Nishikori
Murray
Djokovic
Harrison
Del Potro
Berankis
Cilic
Goffin

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:33 AM
that's order.

He'll be 23 in 5 years, he's progressing fast for someone who's still a junior. Milso will probably be top 10 by 23. it's a stretch and a homer pick but it may be possible

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:34 AM
The only one I agree with is Raonic in top 3.

Tomug in top 10 :haha:

Okay so if you had to take a guess, thinking about the up and coming generation and players that should still be around in 5 years who do you put in the top 10?

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:35 AM
that's order.

He'll be 23 in 5 years, he's progressing fast for someone who's still a junior. Milso will probably be top 10 by 23. it's a stretch and a homer pick but it may be possible

I think filip has top 100 talanet but i just dont see him making top 10. More like top 30

bleu_cheese
05-09-2012, 12:40 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx?d=07.05.2007&r=1&c=#

The rankings 5 years ago. I think there will be more veterans in the top 10 than you think.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 12:41 AM
Okay so if you had to take a guess, thinking about the up and coming generation and players that should still be around in 5 years who do you put in the top 10?



I can't really say because new generation is so bad right now. I have Nishikori, Harrison and possibly Dimitrov in top 10 (if he stops being a clown and that's a huge IF). Raonic will probably dominate because he'll have no one to stop him and he seems hungrier than the rest and more mentally tough, plus he already has a huge weapon at his disposal - the serve, other young players don't really have anything right now.

Tomic is arrogant and thinks he's too good even for ATP250's when he hasn't done jack shit in slams. His attitude is digusting and he's a slicing, junkballer with zero weight or power on his shots. Overrated as hell.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:41 AM
I think filip has top 100 talent but i just dont see him making top 10. More like top 30

where was Dzumhur last year at this time? In the 1000's. Filip is ahead of where he was last year, and is progressing fast. I don't think he'll ever be top 5, but I think top 10 is definately possible and I dare to dream

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 12:42 AM
David Goffin #2 :facepalm:

Moozza
05-09-2012, 12:43 AM
In 5 years I think the field will be very open with many players challenging for no.1.

I'd be surprised if there is such a dominant group like the current top 4, you can never know though.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 12:43 AM
In 5 years I think the field will be very open with many players challenging for no.1.

I'd be surprised if there is such a dominant group like the current top 4, you can never know though.

top 3 you mean

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:44 AM
David Goffin #2 :facepalm:

my list isnt an actual ranking , i just put them in randomly as to who i think will comprise the top 10

Moozza
05-09-2012, 12:47 AM
top 3 you mean

No. Based on the last couple of years, Murray deserves to be included in that group as much as Federer. It is either a top 2 or top 4.

mcarvalho
05-09-2012, 12:47 AM
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Cilic
Raonic
Nishikori
Dolgopolov
Tomic
Harrison

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:48 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx?d=07.05.2007&r=1&c=#

The rankings 5 years ago. I think there will be more veterans in the top 10 than you think.

The reason that the current top 10 has a lot of players that were top 10 5 years ago is because 5 years ago they were younger and still had 5 years left in them. The current top 10 are older, and most of them likely won`t still be there in 5 years

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:48 AM
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Cilic
Raonic
Nishikori
Dolgopolov
Tomic
Harrison

Nadal won't be #1 by 2017. Body won't let him.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:49 AM
really think Nadal and Nole will still be top 2 in 5 years? Their style of play isn't really the best for longevitivy and they were top 10 5 years ago as well. That would be a long run

Smoke944
05-09-2012, 12:49 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx?d=07.05.2007&r=1&c=#

The rankings 5 years ago. I think there will be more veterans in the top 10 than you think.

You post this because it is realistic. But other people in this thread have more fun naming random young players that probably won't ever sniff the top-30.

Smoke944
05-09-2012, 12:50 AM
Nadal
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Cilic
Raonic
Nishikori
Dolgopolov
Tomic
Harrison

Most sensible post in the thread, though Nadal might be done by this time.

viruzzz
05-09-2012, 12:53 AM
Djokovic will be there... I don't think number 1, but he would be for sure in top 5.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:55 AM
yeah Nole will probably be there, I kind of forgot he was only 24:facepalm:

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:56 AM
Yeah Murray and Djoker should still be there.

mcarvalho
05-09-2012, 12:58 AM
Nadal won't be #1 by 2017. Body won't let him.

really think Nadal and Nole will still be top 2 in 5 years? Their style of play isn't really the best for longevitivy and they were top 10 5 years ago as well. That would be a long run

That list is not sorted.
It is difficult to predict a group of 10, much more is to sort them.

And I hear stories about Nadal's body long enough to believe that things can happen other way.

mcarvalho
05-09-2012, 01:01 AM
yeah Nole will probably be there, I kind of forgot he was only 24:facepalm:

Murray has 24 also. And Nadal 25. These three are the younger players of the current Top 10.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:07 AM
Bit of a strange question because who would've predicted this would be 2012's Top 10?

Djokovic
Nadal
Federer
Murray
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Tipsaveric
Fish
Isner

Who had heard of Tsonga or Isner? Who would've thought Tipsy would be anything better than a journeyman? Who would've thought Ferrer was top 5 material? Who would've thought Fish would break his injury curse and reach the top 10?


This. It is silly to assume if there is a gap in men's tennis in 5 years then it will obviously be filled by whoever is young and is hyped.

In 2007 most people would have probably picked Gasquet and Ancic to be top 10 in 2012, doesn't always work out that way.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:07 AM
Murray has 24 also. And Nadal 25. These three are the younger players of the current Top 10.

I have Murray in my list.

I don't think Nadal will last that long

mcarvalho
05-09-2012, 01:13 AM
I have Murray in my list.

I don't think Nadal will last that long

I know. I was just justifying my choices.

v-money
05-09-2012, 01:25 AM
Murray and Djokovic are only 24 so they will stay there for 5 more years, probably.

Raonic, Tomic and Harrison will probably progress enough in 5 years to get there.

Del Potro, Dolgopolov, Cilic and especially Nishikori are still young enough to get there. Although Dolgopolov and Cilic are extremely inconsistent, so they are not a safe pick and Del Potro may be injury prone.

That leaves one more spots so here I'll go for a stretch and say either Marti because some clay courter always manages to sneak in there and he seems to have some potential or Jiri Vesely, because of his junior success and because of his size. Vesely could be a Berdych type player in 5 years, or he could be a total bust like most former junior slam winners.

BauerAlmeida
05-09-2012, 01:29 AM
1-Del Potro
2-Djokovic
3-Raonic
4-Murray
5-Tomic
6-Dolgopolov
7-Nishikori
8-Nadal
9-Harrison
10-Del Bonis

jonas
05-09-2012, 01:36 AM
1. Young
2. Gulbis
3. Brands
4. Levine
5. Berankis
6. Evans
7. Ito
8. Kavcic
9. Pospisil
10. Federer

hipolymer
05-09-2012, 01:44 AM
Oh for some reason I read it as 10 years. :facepalm:

1) Djokovic
2) Del Potro
3) Murray
4) Nadal
5) Tomic
6) Raonic
7) Young
8) Federer
9) Nishikori
10) Dolgopolov

Alex999
05-09-2012, 02:00 AM
1. Young
2. Gulbis
3. Brands
4. Levine
5. Berankis
6. Evans
7. Ito
8. Kavcic
9. Pospisil
10. Federer
lol, love your list :worship:

v-money
05-09-2012, 02:00 AM
Oh for some reason I read it as 10 years. :facepalm:

1) Djokovic
2) Del Potro
3) Murray
4) Nadal
5) Tomic
6) Raonic
7) Young
8) Federer
9) Nishikori
10) Dolgopolov

Okay, if Nadal is playing in 5 years he very well could be in the top 10, so I'll give you that one as a legitimate possibility. But are Young and Federer just a joke? I can only conceive of Federer playing at that age if Nadal gets close to breaking some of his records and Federer gets paranoid and sticks around. Young must be a joke though.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 02:02 AM
1-Del Potro
2-Djokovic
3-Raonic
4-Murray
5-Tomic
6-Dolgopolov
7-Nishikori
8-Nadal
9-Harrison
10-Del Bonis

Lol, fanboy much?

hipolymer
05-09-2012, 02:11 AM
Okay, if Nadal is playing in 5 years he very well could be in the top 10, so I'll give you that one as a legitimate possibility. But are Young and Federer just a joke? I can only conceive of Federer playing at that age if Nadal gets close to breaking some of his records and Federer gets paranoid and sticks around. Young must be a joke though.

Young is still young. :p

And Federer said he plans to play at least until another Olympics so I'll hold him to that. From my impressions, he enjoys tennis very much so that's another indicator of longevity.

Although Agassi supposedly hated playing tennis, so I don't know what to make of that.

Lestat
05-09-2012, 02:36 AM
Murray and Djokovic are only 24 so they will stay there for 5 more years, probably.

Raonic, Tomic and Harrison will probably progress enough in 5 years to get there.

Del Potro, Dolgopolov, Cilic and especially Nishikori are still young enough to get there. Although Dolgopolov and Cilic are extremely inconsistent, so they are not a safe pick and Del Potro may be injury prone.

That leaves one more spots so here I'll go for a stretch and say either Marti because some clay courter always manages to sneak in there and he seems to have some potential or Jiri Vesely, because of his junior success and because of his size. Vesely could be a Berdych type player in 5 years, or he could be a total bust like most former junior slam winners.

Just seeing Delpo in the same line of dolgopolov and cilic makes me sick.

Lol, fanboy much?

lol, hater much?

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 02:40 AM
1. Nadal
2. Raonic
3. Nishikori
4. Djokovic
5. Dolgopolov
6. Zivkovic
7. Bachinger
8. Del Potro
9. Harrison
10. Dimitrov

Lestat
05-09-2012, 02:43 AM
Dolgo is a joke, a big clueless clown in the court.. and still most of ppl put him in the future top ten... that BAD next 2017 will be? :facepalm:

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 02:51 AM
lol, hater much?

A clown like Del Potro does not deserve hate...just ridicule.

Lestat
05-09-2012, 02:56 AM
A clown like Del Potro does not deserve hate...just ridicule.

then stop talking shit about him in every thread he is mentioned... oh no I forgot it for a second... you are a hater.

duchuy89
05-09-2012, 03:04 AM
Milos raonic
David goffin
Murray
Bernard tomic
Del Potro
Kei nishikori
Goffin
Dzumhur
Harrison
Peliwo

Fireballer
05-09-2012, 03:07 AM
1. Nadal
2. Raonic
3. Nishikori
4. Djokovic
5. Dolgopolov
6. Zivkovic
7. Bachinger
8. Del Potro
9. Harrison
10. Dimitrov

lol fanboy much?

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 03:11 AM
Milos raonic
David goffin
Murray
Bernard tomic
Del Potro
Kei nishikori
Goffin
Dzumhur
Harrison
Peliwo

Goffin is so nice, he's top 10 twice:D

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 03:13 AM
My top 10:

1) Nadal (gonna be sitting at 17 slams at that point)
2) Raonic (4-5 slams at this point, breathing down the Legend's neck in rankings)
3) Nishikori (1-2 slams for the legend from the Land of the Rising Sun)
4) Dolgopolov (1 slam, RG, the great Ukranian will break through on clay)
5) Dimitrov (finally stops imitating Olderer and develops his own style)
6) Harrison (the only promising American so far)
7) Djokovic (still a decent threat in slams)
8) Olderer (vulturing 250/500 indoor events, clown anywhere else)
9) Mugray (another vulture)
10) Random mug like Fish/Almugro/Isner, only younger

Lestat
05-09-2012, 03:17 AM
My top 10:

1) Nadal (gonna be sitting at 17 slams at that point)
2) Raonic (4-5 slams at this point, breathing down the Legend's neck in rankings)
3) Nishikori (1-2 slams for the legend from the Land of the Rising Sun)
4) Dolgopolov (1 slam, RG, the great Ukranian will break through on clay)
5) Dimitrov (finally stops imitating Olderer and develops his own style)
6) Harrison (the only promising American so far)
7) Djokovic (still a decent threat in slams)
8) Olderer (vulturing 250/500 indoor events, clown anywhere else)
9) Mugray (another vulture)
10) Random mug like Fish/Almugro/Isner, only younger

:haha: I bet pigs can fly in your land.

SelvenluvJo
05-09-2012, 03:42 AM
Nishikori top3?? somebody please remind me how old is he.
:spit:

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 04:01 AM
Nishikori top3?? somebody please remind me how old is he.
:spit:

he's only 22, I don't see how top 3 is far fetched, he had like probably 8 years left

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 04:06 AM
My top 10:

1) Nadal (gonna be sitting at 17 slams at that point)
2) Raonic (4-5 slams at this point, breathing down the Legend's neck in rankings)
3) Nishikori (1-2 slams for the legend from the Land of the Rising Sun)
4) Dolgopolov (1 slam, RG, the great Ukranian will break through on clay)
5) Dimitrov (finally stops imitating Olderer and develops his own style)
6) Harrison (the only promising American so far)
7) Djokovic (still a decent threat in slams)
8) Olderer (vulturing 250/500 indoor events, clown anywhere else)
9) Mugray (another vulture)
10) Random mug like Fish/Almugro/Isner, only younger

Don't be ridiculous. He will be sitting on 20+ slams by then, possibly almost doubling Olderer's fluked number of GS's. Raonic to win a few slams, but others will make several finals, falling to the King of Clay (more like King of Tennis).

v-money
05-09-2012, 04:54 AM
I really can't believe that Topspindoc went from calling Raonic an all-serve mug to predicting that he will win slams and challenging for the number 1 ranking. Not that it's a bad prediction, but it just seems uncharacteristic of him to change his views on a guy who he'd been hating on.

I think Raonic will win a Wimbledon or a USO at some point, as long as his movement and backhand improve. I wouldn't go as far as saying 4-5 slams.

I think it's also possible that at least one of these top 10 spots will be occupied by someone we have yet to hear of. I think a young talent is bound to make it into the top 10 at some point. Historically players have been getting there at a much younger age. If we have a 21 or 22 year old in the top 10 in 5 years, then they are only 16 or 17 at this time and I personally don't know of many players of that age. The youngest players with potential that I know of are Kubler and Vesely, who are both 18.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 05:20 AM
I am not allowed to change my opinion??

Raonic was a serve-bot, but he has improved greatly and now possesses weapons like huge forehand that's needed to win a slam. He's also tough mentally. I think he'll be a multi slam winner because young generation lacks weapons to compete with him.

SelvenluvJo
05-09-2012, 05:42 AM
he's only 22, I don't see how top 3 is far fetched, he had like probably 8 years left

If you say top 10,I will say that's possible.But top 3:cuckoo:, sorry I don't see any chance.:shrug:There won't be another michael Chang anymore.

Ash86
05-09-2012, 06:15 AM
I am not allowed to change my opinion??

Raonic was a serve-bot, but he has improved greatly and now possesses weapons like huge forehand that's needed to win a slam. He's also tough mentally. I think he'll be a multi slam winner because young generation lacks weapons to compete with him.

You're not factoring in the fact he's injury prone -- all big servers seem to get injured. He's already had hip surgery and turned his ankle in Miami too. If he starts going deep in every tournament the injury issue will be a bigger worry.

His slam chances are also likely to be only at Wimbledon and the US Open really - the French and Aus Open too slow so the baseline defenders will do better. Even at Wimbledon by the second week it's more clay like. It's not like Nadal etc. are going away for at least the next 2 years. By the time Raonic's chance comes he may be 24+ and though that's not old I think he'll be more competition around. Lets not forget he was beaten by Montanes a few weeks back.

james82
05-09-2012, 07:18 AM
1.Tomic
2.Raonic
3.Djokovic
4.Delpotro
5.Kei
6.Dimitrov
7.Paire
8.Krawietz
9.Del Bonis
10.Stebe

Marti,moriya,Goffin,duckworth and murray all will be there abouts

Allez
05-09-2012, 07:23 AM
1. Milos Raonic
2. Bernard Tomic
3. Rafael Nadal
4. Novak Djokovic
5. Luke Saville
6. Juan Martin Del Potro
7. Liam Broady
8. David Goffin
9. Adam Pavlasek
10. Ryan Harrison

Jimnik
05-09-2012, 07:30 AM
All Yugoslav and Spanish speaking.

Time Violation
05-09-2012, 07:58 AM
Barring injuries/lack of motivation/unforseen events:

1-2. Djokovic/Nadal
3. Murray
4. Del Potro
5. Federer
6. Raonic
7. Pospisil
8. Harrison
9. Tomic
10. Duckworth

ciprianned
05-09-2012, 08:20 AM
hard to say ...

1-2. Nadal-Djokovic
3. Dimitrov
4. Raonic
5. Juan Martin Del Potro
6. Kuznetsov (Andrey)
7. Bhambri
8. Murray
9. Goffin
10. Pella

masterclass
05-09-2012, 09:01 AM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

Assuming CKAT (Clay King All Time) Nadal retires by next year just after ATP finally approved and put 4 year ranking system in effect:

1. Nadal (retired in 2013, after winning his second Australian Open in 5 sets over Djokovic and his 8th and last Roland Garros)
2. Federer (still playing, Mirka and 2 sets of twins in tow, gunning for his first gold medal in a record 6th Olympics appearance in 2020 at the age of 39, says he'll only retire after winning the gold medal)
3. Djokovic (still playing, finally won Roland Garros in 2014 with fiance Jelena Ristic and coach Vajda in tow)
4. Murray (still playing, now on 7th coach - John McEnroe, who took him to his only slam at Australian Open in 2016 over declining Djokovic)
5. Tsonga (retired in 2015, after winning his 2nd Wimbledon over declining Federer)
6. Ferrer (still playing, taking his record 8th straight Acapulco [now a Masters 1000])
7. Berdych (retired in 2016, after winning Wimbledon and the US Open in one year)
8. Isner (retired in 2016 after winning Olympics over declining Federer)
9. Del Potro (still playing, winning US Open for the 3rd time over declining Federer)
10. Simon (still playing, wins first Roland Garros in 2015)

Other notables:

11. Raonic (has played through 3 hip operations, leads serve statistics, now has most tiebreaker appearances [winning 68%] US Open winner twice in 2015-2016 over Andy Murray and declining Federer )
12. Monfils (still playing avg. 4 tournaments a year due to various injuries, most recent big win at 2016 Paris Masters).
13. Tipsarevic (retired in 2015 after losing to Andy Murray and declining Djokovic at Australian Open.)
14. Gasquet (still playing, declining Gasquet won his 1st Roland Garros over declining 35 year old Federer in 2016)
15. Berlocq (still playing, has won 4 straight at VTR Open, 2 Buenos Aires Masters in 2014-15 and lost 3 straight finals to Ferrer at Acapulco Masters)

21. Fish (retired in 2013, after winning Cincinnati the last time)
25. Tomic (still on the rise, has made 3 straight Australian Open semifinals)
28. Troicki (retired in 2015 after beating declining Djokovic in Belgrade Open)
29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

45. Davydenko (retired in 2013 after defeating Nadal in Doha for the last time in SF, securing his career H2H advantage over Nadal, and losing to declining Federer in the final for a final H2H 2-22 record)

50. Soderling (still playing - still trying to recover his best form after bad case of mono laid him up till 2013, one of the favorites for 2017 Roland Garros)

Respectfully,
masterclass

Federer in 2
05-09-2012, 09:13 AM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

Assuming CKAT (Clay King All Time) Nadal retires by next year just after ATP finally approved and put 4 year ranking system in effect:

1. Nadal (retired in 2013, after winning his second Australian Open in 5 sets over Djokovic and his 8th and last Roland Garros)
2. Federer (still playing, Mirka and 2 sets of twins in tow, gunning for his first gold medal in a record 6th Olympics appearance in 2020 at the age of 39, says he'll only retire after winning the gold medal)
3. Djokovic (still playing, finally won Roland Garros in 2014 with fiance Jelena Ristic and coach Vajda in tow)
4. Murray (still playing, now on 7th coach - John McEnroe, who took him to his only slam at Australian Open in 2016 over declining Djokovic)
5. Tsonga (retired in 2015, after winning his 2nd Wimbledon over declining Federer)
6. Ferrer (still playing, taking his record 8th straight Acapulco [now a Masters 1000])
7. Berdych (retired in 2016, after winning Wimbledon and the US Open in one year)
8. Isner (retired in 2016 after winning Olympics over declining Federer)
9. Del Potro (still playing, winning US Open for the 3rd time over declining Federer)
10. Simon (still playing, wins first Roland Garros in 2015)

Other notables:

11. Raonic (has played through 3 hip operations, leads serve statistics, now has most tiebreaker appearances [winning 68%] US Open winner twice in 2015-2016 over Andy Murray and declining Federer )
12. Monfils (still playing avg. 4 tournaments a year due to various injuries, most recent big win at 2016 Paris Masters).
13. Tipsarevic (retired in 2015 after losing to Andy Murray and declining Djokovic at Australian Open.)
14. Gasquet (still playing, declining Gasquet won his 1st Roland Garros over declining 35 year old Federer in 2016)
15. Berlocq (still playing, has won 4 straight at VTR Open, 2 Buenos Aires Masters in 2014-15 and lost 3 straight finals to Ferrer at Acapulco Masters)

21. Fish (retired in 2013, after winning Cincinnati the last time)
25. Tomic (still on the rise, has made 3 straight Australian Open semifinals)
28. Troicki (retired in 2015 after beating declining Djokovic in Belgrade Open)
29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

45. Davydenko (retired in 2013 after defeating Nadal in Doha for the last time in SF, securing his career H2H advantage over Nadal, and losing to declining Federer in the final for a final H2H 2-22 record)

50. Soderling (still playing - still trying to recover his best form after bad case of mono laid him up till 2013, one of the favorites for 2017 Roland Garros)

Respectfully,
masterclass

Man you just made my day!! Thanks :D
You are the best :)

masterclass
05-09-2012, 09:18 AM
Man you just made my day!! Thanks :D
You are the best :)

Thanks for the kind words Bashkatik :) It's all in fun ;)

Respectfully,
masterclass

EliSter
05-09-2012, 10:09 AM
My top 10:

1) Nadal (gonna be sitting at 17 slams at that point)
2) Raonic (4-5 slams at this point, breathing down the Legend's neck in rankings)
3) Nishikori (1-2 slams for the legend from the Land of the Rising Sun)
4) Dolgopolov (1 slam, RG, the great Ukranian will break through on clay)
5) Dimitrov (finally stops imitating Olderer and develops his own style)
6) Harrison (the only promising American so far)
7) Djokovic (still a decent threat in slams)
8) Olderer (vulturing 250/500 indoor events, clown anywhere else)
9) Mugray (another vulture)
10) Random mug like Fish/Almugro/Isner, only younger

Im not sure if serious, or just being an idiot :stupid:

scarecrows
05-09-2012, 10:22 AM
quinzi

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:12 PM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

Assuming CKAT (Clay King All Time) Nadal retires by next year just after ATP finally approved and put 4 year ranking system in effect:

1. Nadal (retired in 2013, after winning his second Australian Open in 5 sets over Djokovic and his 8th and last Roland Garros)
2. Federer (still playing, Mirka and 2 sets of twins in tow, gunning for his first gold medal in a record 6th Olympics appearance in 2020 at the age of 39, says he'll only retire after winning the gold medal)
3. Djokovic (still playing, finally won Roland Garros in 2014 with fiance Jelena Ristic and coach Vajda in tow)
4. Murray (still playing, now on 7th coach - John McEnroe, who took him to his only slam at Australian Open in 2016 over declining Djokovic)
5. Tsonga (retired in 2015, after winning his 2nd Wimbledon over declining Federer)
6. Ferrer (still playing, taking his record 8th straight Acapulco [now a Masters 1000])
7. Berdych (retired in 2016, after winning Wimbledon and the US Open in one year)
8. Isner (retired in 2016 after winning Olympics over declining Federer)
9. Del Potro (still playing, winning US Open for the 3rd time over declining Federer)
10. Simon (still playing, wins first Roland Garros in 2015)

Other notables:

11. Raonic (has played through 3 hip operations, leads serve statistics, now has most tiebreaker appearances [winning 68%] US Open winner twice in 2015-2016 over Andy Murray and declining Federer )
12. Monfils (still playing avg. 4 tournaments a year due to various injuries, most recent big win at 2016 Paris Masters).
13. Tipsarevic (retired in 2015 after losing to Andy Murray and declining Djokovic at Australian Open.)
14. Gasquet (still playing, declining Gasquet won his 1st Roland Garros over declining 35 year old Federer in 2016)
15. Berlocq (still playing, has won 4 straight at VTR Open, 2 Buenos Aires Masters in 2014-15 and lost 3 straight finals to Ferrer at Acapulco Masters)

21. Fish (retired in 2013, after winning Cincinnati the last time)
25. Tomic (still on the rise, has made 3 straight Australian Open semifinals)
28. Troicki (retired in 2015 after beating declining Djokovic in Belgrade Open)
29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

45. Davydenko (retired in 2013 after defeating Nadal in Doha for the last time in SF, securing his career H2H advantage over Nadal, and losing to declining Federer in the final for a final H2H 2-22 record)

50. Soderling (still playing - still trying to recover his best form after bad case of mono laid him up till 2013, one of the favorites for 2017 Roland Garros)

Respectfully,
masterclass

Oh man, this is brilliant. You should get it framed.

Certinfy
05-09-2012, 12:56 PM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

Assuming CKAT (Clay King All Time) Nadal retires by next year just after ATP finally approved and put 4 year ranking system in effect:

1. Nadal (retired in 2013, after winning his second Australian Open in 5 sets over Djokovic and his 8th and last Roland Garros)
2. Federer (still playing, Mirka and 2 sets of twins in tow, gunning for his first gold medal in a record 6th Olympics appearance in 2020 at the age of 39, says he'll only retire after winning the gold medal)
3. Djokovic (still playing, finally won Roland Garros in 2014 with fiance Jelena Ristic and coach Vajda in tow)
4. Murray (still playing, now on 7th coach - John McEnroe, who took him to his only slam at Australian Open in 2016 over declining Djokovic)
5. Tsonga (retired in 2015, after winning his 2nd Wimbledon over declining Federer)
6. Ferrer (still playing, taking his record 8th straight Acapulco [now a Masters 1000])
7. Berdych (retired in 2016, after winning Wimbledon and the US Open in one year)
8. Isner (retired in 2016 after winning Olympics over declining Federer)
9. Del Potro (still playing, winning US Open for the 3rd time over declining Federer)
10. Simon (still playing, wins first Roland Garros in 2015)

Other notables:

11. Raonic (has played through 3 hip operations, leads serve statistics, now has most tiebreaker appearances [winning 68%] US Open winner twice in 2015-2016 over Andy Murray and declining Federer )
12. Monfils (still playing avg. 4 tournaments a year due to various injuries, most recent big win at 2016 Paris Masters).
13. Tipsarevic (retired in 2015 after losing to Andy Murray and declining Djokovic at Australian Open.)
14. Gasquet (still playing, declining Gasquet won his 1st Roland Garros over declining 35 year old Federer in 2016)
15. Berlocq (still playing, has won 4 straight at VTR Open, 2 Buenos Aires Masters in 2014-15 and lost 3 straight finals to Ferrer at Acapulco Masters)

21. Fish (retired in 2013, after winning Cincinnati the last time)
25. Tomic (still on the rise, has made 3 straight Australian Open semifinals)
28. Troicki (retired in 2015 after beating declining Djokovic in Belgrade Open)
29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

45. Davydenko (retired in 2013 after defeating Nadal in Doha for the last time in SF, securing his career H2H advantage over Nadal, and losing to declining Federer in the final for a final H2H 2-22 record)

50. Soderling (still playing - still trying to recover his best form after bad case of mono laid him up till 2013, one of the favorites for 2017 Roland Garros)

Respectfully,
masterclass
I love you.

n8
05-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

Respectfully,
masterclass

Wimbledon introduces final set tiebreakers next year! :eek:

Gagsquet
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Masterclass post

Thanks for giving a slam to Richard. http://www.llli.org/images/smilies/highfive.gif

Mystique
05-09-2012, 01:48 PM
Im not sure if serious, or just being an idiot :stupid:

Venture a guess.
Either way means the same afterall;)

outrider
05-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Nadal
Dolgopolov
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Monfils
Nishikori
Raonic
and maybe one or two players who ranked outside the top 100 at the moment...but be serious...players like Delbonis,Peliwo,Pavlasek,Saville,Bhambri,Krawietz will never be top 10 players..and Tomic also not with his attitude

LastRocket
05-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Pushers will be gone in 5 years

masterclass
05-09-2012, 03:21 PM
Wimbledon introduces final set tiebreakers next year! :eek:

Mr. StatRacket, you were the only one to notice! Well done!:worship:

Respectfully,
masterclass

scarecrows
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
Mr. StatRacket, you were the only one to notice! Well done!:worship:



obviously you didnt check your reps ;)

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 04:11 PM
Unbelievable how many people think the likes of Pospisil, Goffin, Peliwo, etc will ever reach top 10!

masterclass
05-09-2012, 04:41 PM
:worship:obviously you didnt check your reps ;)

Yes, I did see that after I posted reply to StatRacket... You got a PM from me.

Kudos to you as well Scarecrows!

Respectfully,
masterclass

masterclass
05-09-2012, 04:52 PM
Masterclass post

Thanks for giving a slam to Richard. http://www.llli.org/images/smilies/highfive.gif

With his talent, he "deserves" one.:) He has had some ill-timed injuries and is another player who is unfortunate to come up in this era. He might have won a Wimbledon or two without Federer there. He actually does have 1 major to his credit, the 2004 Roland Garros Mixed Doubles title partnering Tatiana Golovin.

Respectfully,
masterclass

masterclass
05-09-2012, 04:57 PM
I love you.

:) :cool:

Respectfully,
masterclass

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 07:13 PM
Nadal
Dolgopolov
Djokovic
Murray
Del Potro
Monfils
Nishikori
Raonic
and maybe one or two players who ranked outside the top 100 at the moment...but be serious...players like Delbonis,Peliwo,Pavlasek,Saville,Bhambri,Krawietz will never be top 10 players..and Tomic also not with his attitude

So just because they're 18 now and playing juniors and an occasional future they won't be top 10 ever? By that logic nobody will evder be top 10. Everyone is a junior at some point, and some of them have to make it. All of them won't obviously but some of them will. I picked Peliwo because he's already in the 500's while still playing juniors, has already made a CH SF, and is progressing fast. he's also Canadian so it's a homer pick but he's got a shot. Just because you've never heard of him doesn't mean he won't make it. Bet you never heard of Raonic until he broke through either. When he was a junior 4 years ago, you would has said the same about him;)

Unbelievable how many people think the likes of Pospisil, Goffin, Peliwo, etc will ever reach top 10!

vasek won't, Goffin maybe, Filip is still 18 so it's really impossible to tell

Gagsquet
05-09-2012, 08:01 PM
My shot

1 Saville : Wimbledon 2016, Roland Garros 2017
2 Krajinovic : USO 2017.
3 Raonic : Winner of Wimbledon 2017 and USO 2016
4 Dolgopolov : one slam: Roland Garros 2016, he crushed Paire in final.
5 Tomic : one slam -> AO 2016
6 Murray : former number 1 from 2014 to 2015. Won three slams. Never WImbledon.
7 Nishikori : one slam: Australian Open 2017
8 Paire : craziness at last tamed, finalist of Roland Garros 2016
9 Gasquet : late-bloomer: one slam Wimbledon 2014 beating the world number 1 Murray at home (MurrayoMeter 77% Scottish)
10 Djokovic : still here but declining: 12 slams in the bag

Nadal retired in 2015, Federer in 2013. Respectively 13 (RG 2012 and 2014, USO 2014) and 17 slams (Wimbledon 2012).

Allez
05-09-2012, 08:09 PM
Ok, I'll play along ;) :devil:

Assuming CKAT (Clay King All Time) Nadal retires by next year just after ATP finally approved and put 4 year ranking system in effect:

1. Nadal (retired in 2013, after winning his second Australian Open in 5 sets over Djokovic and his 8th and last Roland Garros)
2. Federer (still playing, Mirka and 2 sets of twins in tow, gunning for his first gold medal in a record 6th Olympics appearance in 2020 at the age of 39, says he'll only retire after winning the gold medal)
3. Djokovic (still playing, finally won Roland Garros in 2014 with fiance Jelena Ristic and coach Vajda in tow)
4. Murray (still playing, now on 7th coach - John McEnroe, who took him to his only slam at Australian Open in 2016 over declining Djokovic)
5. Tsonga (retired in 2015, after winning his 2nd Wimbledon over declining Federer)
6. Ferrer (still playing, taking his record 8th straight Acapulco [now a Masters 1000])
7. Berdych (retired in 2016, after winning Wimbledon and the US Open in one year)
8. Isner (retired in 2016 after winning Olympics over declining Federer)
9. Del Potro (still playing, winning US Open for the 3rd time over declining Federer)
10. Simon (still playing, wins first Roland Garros in 2015)

Other notables:

11. Raonic (has played through 3 hip operations, leads serve statistics, now has most tiebreaker appearances [winning 68%] US Open winner twice in 2015-2016 over Andy Murray and declining Federer )
12. Monfils (still playing avg. 4 tournaments a year due to various injuries, most recent big win at 2016 Paris Masters).
13. Tipsarevic (retired in 2015 after losing to Andy Murray and declining Djokovic at Australian Open.)
14. Gasquet (still playing, declining Gasquet won his 1st Roland Garros over declining 35 year old Federer in 2016)
15. Berlocq (still playing, has won 4 straight at VTR Open, 2 Buenos Aires Masters in 2014-15 and lost 3 straight finals to Ferrer at Acapulco Masters)

21. Fish (retired in 2013, after winning Cincinnati the last time)
25. Tomic (still on the rise, has made 3 straight Australian Open semifinals)
28. Troicki (retired in 2015 after beating declining Djokovic in Belgrade Open)
29. Roddick (retired in 2013 after losing 4th Wimbledon final to declining Federer - 6-7(4), 7-6(2), 6-3, 6-7(5), 6-7(15) )

45. Davydenko (retired in 2013 after defeating Nadal in Doha for the last time in SF, securing his career H2H advantage over Nadal, and losing to declining Federer in the final for a final H2H 2-22 record)

50. Soderling (still playing - still trying to recover his best form after bad case of mono laid him up till 2013, one of the favorites for 2017 Roland Garros)

Respectfully,
masterclass

:haha: :haha: Just what I needed to read after a tiring day :bounce:

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 10:51 PM
Berlocq at 15 is certainly remarkable, masterclass. After reading this I must say I am not really supporter of the 4year ranking system.

masterclass
05-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Berlocq at 15 is certainly remarkable, masterclass. After reading this I must say I am not really supporter of the 4year ranking system.

Berlocq was a tribute to Mr. viruzzz and Mr. Berlocq's untiring effort to achieve ;).

I'm a supporter of starting at 0 every year and forget about this notion of defending points, but what do I know? It's probably far too simplistic a scheme. ;)

Respectfully,
masterclass

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 11:56 PM
That'd be dumb because winner of Chennai, Doha, and Brisbane would be #1 which is stupid.

Wait that means Milos would have been #1. Never Mind:D

Mountaindewslave
05-10-2012, 02:38 AM
Oh for some reason I read it as 10 years. :facepalm:

1) Djokovic
2) Del Potro
3) Murray
4) Nadal
5) Tomic
6) Raonic
7) Young
8) Federer
9) Nishikori
10) Dolgopolov

the chances that DJokovic, Murray, and Nadal are all in the top 5 in 5 years is near impossible, it just doesn't ever EVER happen. you act as if no great talents will emerge and/or our current top dogs won't decline. both will occur and if they remain in the top 10 they will not all stay at the top.

Realistically Nadal will play tennis as long as his body holds up and as long as his body holds up he will be on the top of the rankings (1-3), however I exect him to grow tired at some point. in his book he already has mentioned that at different moments he gets bored and tired with tennis, in 5 years I doubt Nadal will be actively playing anymore....

Djokovic and Murray probably will be but neither will be on top.

take a few names from the current top 10 and then just throw some wild guesses with current young guys is the best you can do. the top 10 5 years from now will be something that we will have had no possible way to imagine at this moment, mark my words

Mountaindewslave
05-10-2012, 02:40 AM
That'd be dumb because winner of Chennai, Doha, and Brisbane would be #1 which is stupid.

Wait that means Milos would have been #1. Never Mind:D

you seem to have a vested interest in this thread with your frequent postings, it appears that you are dreaming or convinced that Raonic will be on the top of the rankings in 5 years but he could be an ANcic case, where injuries kill his career

james82
05-10-2012, 04:41 AM
The youngest guys in the top 30 atm are Del potro,Raonic,Kei,Dolgoplov and cilic most of these guys will be 26-27 in 5 years
so they are all a massive chance at top 10

Pirata.
05-10-2012, 04:44 AM
quinzi

:)

Pushers will be gone in 5 years

Fingers crossed.

Topspindoctor
05-10-2012, 04:45 AM
Fingers crossed.

I thought u were fan of Ferrer?! :lol:

Smoke944
05-10-2012, 04:55 AM
quinzi

Let's hope, wouldn't shock me if he keeps developing :cool:

Felipe Abe
05-10-2012, 05:10 AM
What about Harrison ?

Allez
05-10-2012, 06:03 AM
the chances that DJokovic, Murray, and Nadal are all in the top 5 in 5 years is near impossible, it just doesn't ever EVER happen. you act as if no great talents will emerge and/or our current top dogs won't decline. both will occur and if they remain in the top 10 they will not all stay at the top.


In 5 years Nadal will be 30 going on 31. Same age Roger is now so I don't see why he should be treated differently to Roger. People were saying he'd be burned out by now...using the likes of Borg as examples and yet here he still is, the 2nd best player in the world. Nah...Rafa will still be in the top 3 in 5 years :yeah:

Time Violation
05-10-2012, 06:14 AM
the chances that DJokovic, Murray, and Nadal are all in the top 5 in 5 years is near impossible, it just doesn't ever EVER happen. you act as if no great talents will emerge and/or our current top dogs won't decline. both will occur and if they remain in the top 10 they will not all stay at the top.

If Ferrer can be comfortably top 5 for a whole year almost, I don't see why Nole, Andy and Rafa couldn't do the same.

Mountaindewslave
05-10-2012, 06:17 AM
If Ferrer can be comfortably top 5 for a whole year almost, I don't see why Nole, Andy and Rafa couldn't do the same.

Ferrer didn't play as much as Nadal has from a young age. Nadal already has played more matches than him and he's almost a half decade younger... that is where you have your problem. not only that but Nadal will lose interest because unlike Ferrer, at 28/29 he won't have anything to accomplish.

I think Djokovic or Murray, one of the two will probably still be top 5, but I find it unlikely both. you can't expect them to have kept in the top 5 for 10 straight years, one is bound to decline or face injuries to some degree

Mountaindewslave
05-10-2012, 06:20 AM
In 5 years Nadal will be 30 going on 31. Same age Roger is now so I don't see why he should be treated differently to Roger. People were saying he'd be burned out by now...using the likes of Borg as examples and yet here he still is, the 2nd best player in the world. Nah...Rafa will still be in the top 3 in 5 years :yeah:

man I seriously doubt it. Nadal has stated that already at certain times he was losing interest in tennis, the passion to keep playing. when you've accomplished as much as Nadal this is natural. he has so many miles on his body that it will catch up at some point. maybe not for a few years, but 5!???

Federer is a bad comparison because he plays so much easier on the body than Nadal. he doesn't pound across the court, he dances across it.

ask yourself how many times you recall noticing Federer with injury or dropping out of tournaments because of knee problems. can't think of any ? well thats because it almost NEVER has happened. what about Nadal on the otherhanD? you can remember many times. and Federer is half a decade older. the point? Nadal's style is taxing on the body and it will catch up at some point, there is no way he is in the condition that Federer is in at 30/31, no wayyy

Time Violation
05-10-2012, 09:02 AM
Ferrer didn't play as much as Nadal has from a young age. Nadal already has played more matches than him and he's almost a half decade younger... that is where you have your problem. not only that but Nadal will lose interest because unlike Ferrer, at 28/29 he won't have anything to accomplish.

I think Djokovic or Murray, one of the two will probably still be top 5, but I find it unlikely both. you can't expect them to have kept in the top 5 for 10 straight years, one is bound to decline or face injuries to some degree

We'll see. So far only Raonic has stepped it up, everybody else is mugging it up, and if I counted correctly, there are only 6 players younger than Djokovic in top 50 at the moment. He and Murray will face injuries/decline, but so will everybody else. Not sure 5 years is enough that someone who is now like top 500 starts dominating top 10 :)

outrider
05-10-2012, 03:15 PM
All of them won't obviously but some of them will. I picked Peliwo because he's already in the 500's while still playing juniors, has already made a CH SF, and is progressing fast. he's also Canadian so it's a homer pick but he's got a shot. Just because you've never heard of him doesn't mean he won't make it. Bet you never heard of Raonic until he broke through either. When he was a junior 4 years ago, you would has said the same about him;)

I know this name Peliwo for a long time, maybe longer than you know him, also i know some other great talents from Canada because of my work in Germany but this is other topic. Also i saw him playing in 2011 for two times and yes, he is a great talent with good results this year on ITF Tour but we should clearly say: We're talking about TOP 10 and not TOP 100 or TOP 200. Peliwo is talented and maybe he will break into the Top 100 in the next 4-5 years but i do not see a potential top 10 player. Raonic is other thing, i saw Raonic playing 2008 at Wimbledon and Roland Garros (against Ryan Harrison !) and i liked his style with big serve and big forehand but yes, you are right, i do not believe that he will break into top 10 or 20 in the next years, now he is Top 30 player and maybe he will break into Top 20 this year.
There are a lot of players who HAVE got the talent but the question is who will do this really and at the moment this is only "I like Player A because he is Canadian" ...

We should concentrate on players like Dolgopolov, Harrison, Raonic and maybe Tomic ...but not Peliwo, Saville or so because they will never be Top 10 with age of 21 or 22.

rocketassist
05-10-2012, 03:44 PM
Pusher type players will never disappear, not from the top of the game certainly, until surface diversity is brought back.

abraxas21
05-10-2012, 04:21 PM
like crap

Felixavier10
05-10-2012, 06:23 PM
2017 December

1. Ryan Harrison USA 25
2. Andy Murray GBR 30
3. Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 29
4. Gianluigi Quinzi ITA 21
5. Novak Djokovic SRB 30
6. Milos Raonic CAN 27
7. Rafael Nadal ESP 31
8. Kei Nishikori JPN 28
9. Borna Coric CRO 21
10. Bernard Tomic AUS 25