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Milos Raonic (Canada) is the real deal

Nr 1 Fan
05-08-2012, 11:41 PM
Title says it all, he's the only one of the youngsters with something special that will get him as far as winning a grand slam.

Has a positive game/attitude one of the three best serves in the game, big FH, progressing quickly in all other departments such as movement. Mentality very strong also I think.

If supported by a good entourage and experienced coach he will progress further and since there is still a lot of room improvement, he will shine.

Certinfy
05-08-2012, 11:43 PM
Totally agreed. Definitely the best from the 'younger' league of players and I have no doubt he'll have the most successful career too.

Fireballer
05-08-2012, 11:44 PM
I agree.Still needs to work on movement and BH but in general he has a nice base to grow from

nellis_lv
05-08-2012, 11:54 PM
Yup. Only thing holding him back: injuries

Just stay away from those and he should be good.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:03 AM
For sure

in other news grass is green

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:05 AM
Yes, he is. Needs to improve on his ground game but should win Slams.

But I do wonder if the slowness of the courts will damage him.

ossie
05-09-2012, 12:11 AM
serve bot.

tennishero
05-09-2012, 12:15 AM
yes the real anti tennis deal, no doubt

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 12:17 AM
What's this!? I didn't include That las option. Who did That? How can I delete it?

Moozza
05-09-2012, 12:18 AM
Probaly the best player of his age but a bit overrated by some. Needs to improve a lot if he wants to challenge at the very top.

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 12:22 AM
For sure

in other news grass is green

And clay is blue.

Certinfy
05-09-2012, 12:23 AM
And clay is blue.
:lol:

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:23 AM
I was gonna comment about the blue clay, but I figured I'd let someone else:p

Ash86
05-09-2012, 12:32 AM
He'll do well but the big danger for him is clearly injuries - he moves better than he did but it'll never be a strong part of his game and obviously he's very serve reliant. He's not a serve bot like Karlovic - he's got a very good forehand for one - but if you took away his serve he'd struggle big time.

He's in the Andy Roddick mould - big serve, big forehand - pretty unbreakable when on. Roddick sustained it for a few years but couldn't stay at that level. Remains to be seen the consistency Raonic will have and how his body holds up. Think he'll be a top 10 player and can sneak a Masters on fast indoor courts like Paris (or Madrid faux-clay :p) but getting a slam for the next few years with the top 4 around is a tough ask.

The kid seems nice, if rather dull so a bit boring to root for. Want to see a Raonic/Isner match just because the serving might actually be intriguing to watch. Normally find Raonic matches very difficult to watch - ace, ace, ace, unreturnable, ace - but watching the two best servers on tour against each other would have a good novelty value.

Out of the young guns I'm still sticking by Nishikori though - he has way more variety and his strokes are better than Raonic. Kei has also had bad luck with injuries but other than that he's done well in big matches - seems mentally quite strong and what's more he's a smart player to watch. He thinks on court and that's appealing.

Mountaindewslave
05-09-2012, 12:35 AM
i don't get your point, it was established like a year ago that everyone thinks that Raonic is the real deal. nothing new, no big surprise

Mountaindewslave
05-09-2012, 12:37 AM
Probaly the best player of his age but a bit overrated by some. Needs to improve a lot if he wants to challenge at the very top.

beat your boy handedly a few weeks back and you say he has to "Improve a lot"? :worship: ;) accept reality, he already can beat the best, you're delusional to totally ignore at top 4 loss to him only weeks ago, and he pushed Federer hard a month back... Raonic is good enough as it stands now, it just will take time for bigger confidence and a bit of luck to help him out

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:37 AM
how old is Nishikori? I never really consider him a young gun

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 12:39 AM
I hope so, he's the most promising of the lot along Dolgo, that's for sure.

Smoke944
05-09-2012, 12:44 AM
Very good player but not comparable in ability to Tomic

sammy01
05-09-2012, 12:48 AM
I just don't get the Milos hype? Yep he serves well and has a good forehand, but he is basically a lesser version of del potro.

reery
05-09-2012, 12:50 AM
Yes, he is.

Moozza
05-09-2012, 12:53 AM
beat your boy handedly a few weeks back and you say he has to "Improve a lot"? :worship: ;) accept reality, he already can beat the best, you're delusional to totally ignore at top 4 loss to him only weeks ago, and he pushed Federer hard a month back... Raonic is good enough as it stands now, it just will take time for bigger confidence and a bit of luck to help him out

Beating Murray, even though Andy was playing on his worse surface by far, was a big win for Raonic no doubt. It should certaintly give him more confidence.

However I just don't think be has the overall game to challenge in the big tournaments right now. Maybe once the top 4 have retired/declined he will have a chance.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:55 AM
Murray was playing on his worse surface but lets not mention that Milos was playing on his worse surface

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 12:57 AM
how old is Nishikori? I never really consider him a young gun

23 this year.

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:57 AM
how old is Nishikori? I never really consider him a young gun
he's 23

he just seems so much older because he started so young

a nishikori v.s raonic match up intrigues me, so does a tomic v.s raonic one

zlaja777
05-09-2012, 12:58 AM
Sure, but lets go step by step. First he needs to reach later stages at big tournaments.

Comparing Raonic with Delpo :lol:

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 12:58 AM
23 and 21, somone is wrong. i thought he was 22 about to turn 23, but I'm not sure

misty1
05-09-2012, 12:59 AM
23 and 21, somone is wrong. i thought he was 22 about to turn 23, but I'm not sure

i corrected myself, he's going to be 23 this year so i shouldnt have said he is 23. He's 22, going to be 23

SerialKillerToBe
05-09-2012, 01:00 AM
Too bad he has the body language of a 60 year old granny.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:02 AM
Sure, but lets go step by step. First he needs to reach later stages at big tournaments.

Comparing Raonic with Delpo :lol:

What is wrong with that comparison? Both big servers who try to set up points with it and look to use their forehands more than backhands to do damage. Both move well for tall guys. Only for me Del Potro does it better and even he (even though i'm a fan I can admit) has never really cracked through for more than one or 2 matches into the 'big 4'.

Moozza
05-09-2012, 01:04 AM
Sure, but lets go step by step. First he needs to reach later stages at big tournaments.

Comparing Raonic with Delpo :lol:

This.

He is yet to do anything of note.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:05 AM
Delpo's serve doesn't even come close to Milos' and his ground gave is 10 times as good as Milos'

Milos compares more to Roddick of old

misty1
05-09-2012, 01:08 AM
I think, once the current big 3 leave the game then milos along with kei and bernard are going to start winning their slams. Its going to be an interesting competition between the 3 in who collects more. I would say that delpotro and cilic will be their major competition along with possibly goffin, rycka and damir.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:09 AM
I see the hype is out of control already lol

misty1
05-09-2012, 01:11 AM
I see the hype is out of control already lol

when you look at the generation coming up and you realise that not one of those kids has the ability to dominate like the current top 3 are now then its really inevitable that he's going to do well.

Smoke944
05-09-2012, 01:12 AM
I see the hype is out of control already lol

Understatement, but then again the Raonic bandwagon is legendary.

when you look at the generation coming up and you realise that not one of those kids has the ability to dominate like the current top 3 are now then its really inevitable that he's going to do well.

Tomic will fill his trophy cabinet with slams not named Roland Garros.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:15 AM
when you look at the generation coming up and you realise that not one of those kids has the ability to dominate like the current top 3 are now then its really inevitable that he's going to do well.

What makes him look more able to 'dominate' more than Del Potro, Tsonga, Berdych ect? Non of them have managed to, so what will make Milos better than those players? I don't see the top 3 losing their grip on the slams for another 2 or 3 years yet.

Moozza
05-09-2012, 01:16 AM
I think, once the current big 3 leave the game then milos along with kei and bernard are going to start winning their slams. Its going to be an interesting competition between the 3 in who collects more. I would say that delpotro and cilic will be their major competition along with possibly goffin, rycka and damir.

Cillic winning a slam?

misty1
05-09-2012, 01:16 AM
Understatement, but then again the Raonic bandwagon is legendary.



Tomic will fill his trophy cabinet with slams not named Roland Garros.

unless agood claycourter comes up from this younger generation then roland garros is going to be a real mess and wide open ..much like it is in the wta right now

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 01:17 AM
This looks like it will be one of the weakest eras of tennis. The best players appear to be an underpowered junkballer, a Roddick clone, a player who can't seem to breakthrough that easy, a player who seems set on mimicking the GOAT, and an injury-prone player who's too small.

misty1
05-09-2012, 01:18 AM
What makes him look more able to 'dominate' more than Del Potro, Tsonga, Berdych ect? Non of them have managed to, so what will make Milos better than those players? I don't see the top 3 losing their grip on the slams for another 2 or 3 years yet.

I didnt say milos would dominate. What i said was that when you take a look at the younger generation, including milos you realise that not one of them are going to be able to dominate the tour the way roger, rafa and novak have. So its going to be a very even competition between about 10-15 players (milos included) and because of that milos will be able to do well

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:18 AM
Understatement, but then again the Raonic bandwagon is legendary.



Tomic will fill his trophy cabinet with slams not named Roland Garros.

Tomic isn't junior eligible anymore so he's not going to add too many more slam trophy's to that cabinet.

or is he planning on getting some doubles slams?

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:19 AM
What makes him look more able to 'dominate' more than Del Potro, Tsonga, Berdych ect? Non of them have managed to, so what will make Milos better than those players? I don't see the top 3 losing their grip on the slams for another 2 or 3 years yet.

Milos is 21, that gives him at least 6 years and probably a couple more, so why even mention 2 or 3?

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 01:20 AM
Raonic will win slams. 5-7 according to my estimates. This guy is for real, I am convinced. I used to think he was an all serve clown, but he has skills to win even clay titles. I am surprised weaponless mugs like Murray are hyped to win a slam when this kid really is the future.

misty1
05-09-2012, 01:21 AM
This looks like it will be one of the weakest eras of tennis. The best players appear to be an underpowered junkballer, a Roddick clone, a player who can't seem to breakthrough that easy, a player who seems set on mimicking the GOAT, and an injury-prone player who's too small.

Tomic is the under powered junk baller
raonic is the roddick clone
rycka is the injury prone on(i think, either that or kei)
grigor is the one mimicking roger

who's the one who cant'r break through that easily?

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 01:21 AM
Tomic isn't junior eligible anymore so he's not going to add too many more slam trophy's to that cabinet.

or is he planning on getting some doubles slams?

I heard they give slams out in jail.

Chase Visa
05-09-2012, 01:22 AM
Tomic is the under powered junk baller
raonic is the roddick clone
rycka is the injury prone on(i think, either that or kei)
grigor is the one mimicking roger

who's the one who cant'r break through that easily?

It's Kei that's the injury prone one.

Harrison's the other one. I think he's got the right game to succeed, but he should be ranked higher at this stage in his career.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:23 AM
I see the hype is out of control already lol

Just trying to get the bandwagon of the month for him;)

Tomic is the under powered junk baller
raonic is the roddick clone
rycka is the injury prone on(i think, either that or kei)
grigor is the one mimicking roger

who's the one who cant'r break through that easily?

The guy who's still ranked in the 500's who you've never heard of. Didn't you hear he's having trouble breaking through:lol:

i was wondering who that was too

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:28 AM
Milos is 21, that gives him at least 6 years and probably a couple more, so why even mention 2 or 3?

Because a lot can happen in tennis in 2 or 3 years. For most players that don't end up being all time greats the window for winning slams is usually very short. Who knows who will come along next or how Milos will progress. Giving him a 6 year or more period in which he could win slams is highly unlikely unless he dominates tennis.

viruzzz
05-09-2012, 01:31 AM
I really support Raonic, every day I support him more and more.
His game is really enjoyable, today vs Dave he was a serving beast and a winner-maker machine.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:35 AM
I really support Raonic, every day I support him more and more.
His game is really enjoyable, today vs Dave he was a serving beast and a winner-maker machine.

If you take off the aces, Dave hit more winners off the ground than Milos today.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:37 AM
Because a lot can happen in tennis in 2 or 3 years. For most players that don't end up being all time greats the window for winning slams is usually very short. Who knows who will come along next or how Milos will progress. Giving him a 6 year or more period in which he could win slams is highly unlikely unless he dominates tennis.

so you say in the next 2 or 3 years Nole/Nadal/Fed will still be in control, but once they're gone we shouldn't consider after that because who know what could happen in 3 years.

Sounds like someone just trying to avoid any thought that he will be at the top of the game.

When The top 3 are gone, there will be a time when the game is more open with Milos, Tomic, and others winning slams before the next GOAT comes along. Milos will be #1, and he will wins slams

Smoke944
05-09-2012, 01:38 AM
Tomic isn't junior eligible anymore so he's not going to add too many more slam trophy's to that cabinet.

or is he planning on getting some doubles slams?

:lol:
Don't blame for you for being this way, Raonic gives reason for a level of optimism that real Canadian tennis fans might have never thought would exist.
That being said, it still doesn't change the fact that Tomic is a far more gifted tennis player :)
For people that can't stand him(and for good reason), the next decade may turn them off tennis.

And it also has to be said that labeling Tomic an underpowered junkballer is extremely stupid. Just because he doesn't bash every ball, it doesn't mean he doesn't have power. He might have the easiest and most natural power out there.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 01:44 AM
:lol:
Don't blame for you for being this way, Raonic gives reason for a level of optimism that real Canadian tennis fans might have never thought would exist.
That being said, it still doesn't change the fact that Tomic is a far more gifted tennis player :)
For people that can't stand him(and for good reason), the next decade may turn them off tennis.

And it also has to be said that labeling Tomic an underpowered junkballer is extremely stupid. Just because he doesn't bash every ball, it doesn't mean he doesn't have power. He might have the easiest and most natural power out there.

:superlol:

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 01:44 AM
I definately think Tomic will win slams, but i think Milos will have a better career

MaxPower
05-09-2012, 01:46 AM
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Seriously he's been the real deal for some time now. He got game, has won a title, has climbed the rankings. That's the real deal in my book. MTF might mostly care about slams and top4 wins and that's a bit early to say for Milos but as long as he stays injury free he will have a great career.

sammy01
05-09-2012, 01:52 AM
so you say in the next 2 or 3 years Nole/Nadal/Fed will still be in control, but once they're gone we shouldn't consider after that because who know what could happen in 3 years.

Sounds like someone just trying to avoid any thought that he will be at the top of the game.

When The top 3 are gone, there will be a time when the game is more open with Milos, Tomic, and others winning slams before the next GOAT comes along. Milos will be #1, and he will wins slams

It doesn't always work like that. Look at Dave, he was young and around when men's tennis went through a transition period and didn't win a slam, yet gaudio did. Predicting what will happen 3 years from now is basically just saying what you want to happen, like Tomic fans or Grigor fans will say their 'window' to win slams will be then too.

Unless a player comes through and truely challenges Nole/Rafa/Fed and shows potential to dominate, then really anything could happen once those 3 decline.

When you think Milos might take advantage who is to say Tsonga, Berdych or Del Potro wont win those 'up for grabs slams' much like Fran, Li and Stosur did in womens tennis not Wozniacki.

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 02:37 AM
unless agood claycourter comes up from this younger generation then roland garros is going to be a real mess and wide open ..much like it is in the wta right now

I could see Delbonis winning RG, he's only 2 months older than Milos, and seems to be doing very well on clay lately

Lestat
05-09-2012, 03:47 AM
bandwagon is getting full, we´ll need a bigger one...

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 03:49 AM
No one is bandwagoning here, clown. Milos = real deal. For bandwagon see the mug in your sig. His name starts with D and the rest is elpotro

Lestat
05-09-2012, 04:04 AM
No one is bandwagoning here, clown. Milos = real deal. For bandwagon see the mug in your sig. His name starts with D and the rest is elpotro

really? have you seen the firt four pages? maybe you hatred against del potro is blinding your mind. On the other hand, if there is a bandwagon for DelPo is deserved, he is just 23yo and a GS winner, he gets what he won in the court. I respect the canadian but he is nothing so far.

I wonder whats your fav player... please dont say Nadull... :haha: By the way start da game really deserved the ban, I hope that clown never come back, MTF doesnt need that kind of nadultards.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 04:08 AM
really? have you seen the firt four pages? maybe you hatred against del potro is blinding your mind. On the other hand, if there is a bandwagon for DelPo is deserved, he is just 23yo and a GS winner, he gets what he won in the court. I respect the canadian but he is nothing so far.

I wonder whats your fav player... please dont say Nadull... :haha: By the way start da game really deserved the ban, I hope that clown never come back, MTF doesnt need that kind of nadultards.

:rolleyes: Nadal = clay legend, 10 slams, tons of titles. Don't even try comparing him to a journeyman like del-shitro who can't win a single masters and lost 0-4 to Olderer this year. lolz.

Lestat
05-09-2012, 04:12 AM
:rolleyes: Nadal = clay legend, 10 slams, tons of titles. Don't even try comparing him to a journeyman like del-shitro who can't win a single masters and lost 0-4 to Olderer this year. lolz.

Oh yes you were finally a bitter nadultard after all, dont worry maybe Novak let your beloved pig win something this year :haha:

And.. I never tried to compare Delpo to Nadal, Im not blind with hatred as you are, dude ;)

156mphserve
05-09-2012, 04:24 AM
Get this Nadal/Delpo shit out of here.

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 07:49 AM
People here seem to forget Raonic still has a lot of time and room for improvement. He hasn't been around that long and I just wanted to say he'll be a threat for the slams not just now but in a couple of years.

Chirag
05-09-2012, 08:08 AM
I think so .He has really improved in the last year .His forehand is pretty good really

He needs to improve his fitness .I consider him to injury prone really :sad: After that the backhand a little bit

Mark Lenders
05-09-2012, 11:43 AM
What is wrong with that comparison? Both big servers who try to set up points with it and look to use their forehands more than backhands to do damage. Both move well for tall guys. Only for me Del Potro does it better and even he (even though i'm a fan I can admit) has never really cracked through for more than one or 2 matches into the 'big 4'.

Del Potro a big server :confused:? This must be a joke. If Delpo could serve even close to as good as Milos, he'd by far the best player in the world. His serve is terrible for a guy his size.

They are very different players. Del Potro bases his games on the power of his groundstrokes, Milos on his amazing serve.

On topic, yes Milos is the real deal. Great serve and the game to back it up. And he's still improving. I fully expect him to have a breakthrough at Grand Slam level soon.

Hian-GOAT
05-09-2012, 12:35 PM
He is just a serve-bot not a tennis player.
He sucks.

Coolio_Jack
05-09-2012, 12:56 PM
He is just a serve-bot not a tennis player.
He sucks.

What sucks is that someone can have more then 1000 posts on a tennis forum , and still dont know a thing about tennis.

BauerAlmeida
05-09-2012, 01:09 PM
Raonic will win slams. 5-7 according to my estimates. This guy is for real, I am convinced. I used to think he was an all serve clown, but he has skills to win even clay titles. I am surprised weaponless mugs like Murray are hyped to win a slam when this kid really is the future.

Yeah, Raonic is better than Murray :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

Now I understand why you think Del Potro is shit. He does not have skills right?? He can't win clay titles also, that's why he didn't lose a final in the surface.

If Raonic wins 5-7 slams, Delpo will win like 10-12. He is superior in every aspect of the game except the serve and he is only 2 years older.

LastRocket
05-09-2012, 01:31 PM
Any attacking game is good for tennis. Raonic has a great future ahead of him. His attitude and composure is an asset as well :)
Not like some hooligan pusher..........

r3d_d3v1l_
05-09-2012, 01:54 PM
There are only two things that may stop Raonic from winning a slam: injuries and slow surfaces.

His 1-2 punch game is probably the best of the tour and when his serve is on, it´s almost impossible to beat him. On a fast surface, though.

Nr 1 Fan
05-09-2012, 03:18 PM
Del Potro and Raonic cannot be compared in terms of playing Style. Delpo being a player with controlled agression, actually playing pretty high percentage tennis, and construcing vis points, while Raonic tries to finish off the points much quicker, lower percentage, and more at the net. Plus of course that vis serve is in another league.

Both way to injury prone though.

Alex999
05-09-2012, 03:39 PM
Raonic is pretty good. Too many stupid comments here. I'm watching Raf vs. Davy right now, and they keep running this commercial with Milos and some kids ... He does remind me of young Sampras.

Busterovic
05-12-2012, 01:58 PM
I'll be honest, when this guy first got on the map with a little hot streak to start the 2011 season I wasn't really thinking much of it. The guy obviously deserved props for doing what he did to start the year.

- Got his ranking from 152 to 27 in 3 months at the tender age of 20.

- Beat 8 top 25 players in 3 months.

- Won an ATP title.

- Took sets off of 3 top 10 players.

Still, the guy was just kind of tough to take seriously. Mostly, and obviously its stupid to judge a tennis player based on this, but he just LOOKS goofy and unathletic. Then he got hurt and fell off to finish the season.

He once against started a new season with a bang.

- Came back from a set down vs. a top 10 player to win another title to start the season.

- Struggled vs. Hewitt in front of a big crowd in Rod Laver Arena which I believe actually helped his development.

- Defended his crown in San Jose without dropping a set.

- Reached the final of an ATP 500 event the next week almost winning another title.

- Took a set off of Federer @ IW before succombing to the eventual champion.

All of this started the year off on a great note for Milos but what really opened my eyes was the beatdown he gave Andy Murray in Barcelona. For a guy who bases his game on a massive serve, it was just beautiful to see how he bullied Muzza around on a relatively slow clay court, held his wit throughout and even though he got broken while serving for the match in the second set he came back to absolutely destroy Andy in the decisive TB. He then went on to lose a very, very tough SF match against Ferrer where he was beaten in 2 tiebreakers.

After that, Raonic showed more signs of brilliance losing to Federer in a tough 3rd set tiebreaker where he had his chances.

The last couple of years its been tough to really be impressed by any player under the age of 23. Delpo has shown signs again this year after being non existent for the last 18 months. Tomic looked good in Melbourne but has really struggled to show any consistency. Nishikori has looked good in some big events but hasn't really had a big win against anyone except for Tsonga (and a jaded Nole in Basel). Harrison has shown signs but it feels like hes light years away from being a threat at AMS1000 events let alone grand slams. The same could be said for Dimitrov.

With all that being said, I think its pretty safe to say that as long as he avoids the injury bug Milos Raonic, at this point, is the future of mens tennis. He's already shown he can hang in there with 2 of the top 4 players in the world and with his game improving seemingly every tournament there is no bigger threat to the dominance that Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray (and Delpo on the outside) at GS's and AMS1000 events.

Mark it down, Milos Raonic is going to be a multiple time GS winner.

Li Ching Yuen
05-12-2012, 02:00 PM
I think you're onto something here...

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 02:02 PM
It's been a harsh clay court campaign so far for Milos. But he will take alot out of them. Hopefully he gets better draws as the season progresses.

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 02:08 PM
I definitely think he could definitely be a multiple Grand Slam winner too.

At first I was skeptical but at the rate he's improving it's hard to bet against it. Even if you compare him now to the him that played at the beginning of the year his ground game is FAR better now!

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 02:11 PM
Raonic to make the Wimbledon final!

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 02:12 PM
Raonic to make the Wimbledon final!
Hopefully one day. :)

LastRocket
05-12-2012, 02:13 PM
Raonic to make the Wimbledon final!

:yeah: or the US Open final!

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 02:16 PM
I'm definitely interested how he'll cope with 5 set matches though, we really haven't seen enough of him in them to have a good idea on it.

One thing that needs to improve to win a Grand Slam is that serve in big moments, it just doesn't fire. Quite weird considering his ground game goes unreal in those moments though.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 02:17 PM
I'm moreover interested how he will cope in a match that goes 5 sets. Imagine if the scores go like 7-7. His ace count will be epic :eek:

Certinfy
05-12-2012, 02:22 PM
I'm moreover interested how he will cope in a match that goes 5 sets. Imagine if the scores go like 7-7. His ace count will be epic :eek:
Definitely. Can definitely see him ending a few matches in his career with well over 50 aces.

Chase Visa
05-12-2012, 02:25 PM
I do wonder how Milos will go against the good returners. Losses to Hewitt and Melzer may suggest they could be bad match-up's for him.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 02:26 PM
Anyways that said, I think he could develop an awesome 5-set record. He has that kind of serve (varied power and epic placement) that drives players insane to the point of choking and losing in frustration :yeah:. If he ever serves first to start the 5th set, you might as well get ready to pack your bags and go home.

Busterovic
05-12-2012, 02:30 PM
Raonic is an absolute lock to be the main man in Men's tennis 3-4 years from now. Its still early, Fed has a lot of great tennis left, Nadal still owns the majority of the clay court season and RG, and Nole, Muzza and Delpo will be massive factors in most GS's for the next 5 years but after that and towards the end of that this guy has to be the man to beat.

Busterovic
05-12-2012, 02:32 PM
He already has probably the second best serve on the tour and I'd already go as far as to say that his forehand is top 10 in the gmae.

Game.Petzschner
05-12-2012, 03:24 PM
yes the real anti tennis deal, no doubt
this stuff

Nr 1 Fan
05-12-2012, 03:37 PM
I'll be honest, when this guy first got on the map with a little hot streak to start the 2011 season I wasn't really thinking much of it. The guy obviously deserved props for doing what he did to start the year.

- Got his ranking from 152 to 27 in 3 months at the tender age of 20.

- Beat 8 top 25 players in 3 months.

- Won an ATP title.

- Took sets off of 3 top 10 players.

Still, the guy was just kind of tough to take seriously. Mostly, and obviously its stupid to judge a tennis player based on this, but he just LOOKS goofy and unathletic. Then he got hurt and fell off to finish the season.

He once against started a new season with a bang.

- Came back from a set down vs. a top 10 player to win another title to start the season.

- Struggled vs. Hewitt in front of a big crowd in Rod Laver Arena which I believe actually helped his development.

- Defended his crown in San Jose without dropping a set.

- Reached the final of an ATP 500 event the next week almost winning another title.

- Took a set off of Federer @ IW before succombing to the eventual champion.

All of this started the year off on a great note for Milos but what really opened my eyes was the beatdown he gave Andy Murray in Barcelona. For a guy who bases his game on a massive serve, it was just beautiful to see how he bullied Muzza around on a relatively slow clay court, held his wit throughout and even though he got broken while serving for the match in the second set he came back to absolutely destroy Andy in the decisive TB. He then went on to lose a very, very tough SF match against Ferrer where he was beaten in 2 tiebreakers.

After that, Raonic showed more signs of brilliance losing to Federer in a tough 3rd set tiebreaker where he had his chances.

The last couple of years its been tough to really be impressed by any player under the age of 23. Delpo has shown signs again this year after being non existent for the last 18 months. Tomic looked good in Melbourne but has really struggled to show any consistency. Nishikori has looked good in some big events but hasn't really had a big win against anyone except for Tsonga (and a jaded Nole in Basel). Harrison has shown signs but it feels like hes light years away from being a threat at AMS1000 events let alone grand slams. The same could be said for Dimitrov.

With all that being said, I think its pretty safe to say that as long as he avoids the injury bug Milos Raonic, at this point, is the future of mens tennis. He's already shown he can hang in there with 2 of the top 4 players in the world and with his game improving seemingly every tournament there is no bigger threat to the dominance that Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray (and Delpo on the outside) at GS's and AMS1000 events.

Mark it down, Milos Raonic is going to be a multiple time GS winner.

Excellent post. Agreed with literally everything you said here.

Nr 1 Fan
05-12-2012, 03:39 PM
I definitely think he could definitely be a multiple Grand Slam winner too.

At first I was skeptical but at the rate he's improving it's hard to bet against it. Even if you compare him now to the him that played at the beginning of the year his ground game is FAR better now!

That strikes me too, he's progressing scarily fast.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 05:21 PM
I didn't see Milos whining about the blue clay after he lost. He seemed to be able to adapt pretty well to it (as did Federer).

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 05:22 PM
ATP hates him or something. He's getting shit draw after shit draw.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 05:23 PM
ATP hates him or something. He's getting shit draw after shit draw.
Better now than in the slams coming up, I'd say. Better learning experience. And if he pulls a massive upset, think about the confidence boost that will give him.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 05:25 PM
Hopefully his loss against Fed hasn't damaged it though. That was a huge body blow, since he was by far the superior player the entire match in every department. But again, still a learning experience for him in the big stages.

Oh well, he's gunna be seeded at RG so he will make up ground if he continues to play some good tennis.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 05:26 PM
With all that being said, I think its pretty safe to say that as long as he avoids the injury bug Milos Raonic, at this point, is the future of mens tennis. He's already shown he can hang in there with 2 of the top 4 players in the world and with his game improving seemingly every tournament there is no bigger threat to the dominance that Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray (and Delpo on the outside) at GS's and AMS1000 events.

Mark it down, Milos Raonic is going to be a multiple time GS winner.
Yeah, I wasn't sure that Milos would be a truly elite player until the last few months. I knew he was a sure thing to get in the top 10 very soon, but his level has jumped incredibly in such a short amount of time. For him, it's all going to come down to staying healthy. If he does that, the sky is the limit.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 05:29 PM
Hopefully his loss against Fed hasn't damaged it though. That was a huge body blow, since he was by far the superior player the entire match in every department. But again, still a learning experience for him in the big stages.

Oh well, he's gunna be seeded at RG so he will make up ground if he continues to play some good tennis.
There's no way it would have. He competed hard against one of the best players in the world (and a player who was playing at a high level as well) and would have won had he caught a lucky break or two. Now that he knows he can play on their level, it will only help him. It might even do more than the Murray win for him.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 05:31 PM
We'll see what happens in Rome. Nadal looks seemingly.... "vulnerable" (is that the right word for him?). I wonder what Milos can do against Rafa in R2, should he get past a tricky first round against a funky junkballer with Flo Mayer.

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 05:34 PM
We'll see what happens in Rome. Nadal looks seemingly.... "vulnerable" (is that the right word for him?). I wonder what Milos can do against Rafa in R2, should he get past a tricky first round against a funky junkballer with Flo Mayer.
If Milos has the same level in Rome that he did in Barcelona and Madrid, Nadal will have to bring his A game to beat him, IMO.

BroTree123
05-12-2012, 05:41 PM
First things first. No matter what happens (eg. mugs up a billion BP's), he must take care of his serve. Against Nadal as of late, I think he can manage that for at least a few hours. Just needs to focus on his serve and not get rattled by the occasional stunning return/s that Nadal sometimes makes (against anybody's serve in general).

Gagsquet
05-12-2012, 08:02 PM
If Raonic wins 20 slams because there is no competition at all (all the others youngsters are so pathetic except Tomic perhaps),
will he be the GOAT?

MaratandMilos
05-12-2012, 08:05 PM
First things first. No matter what happens (eg. mugs up a billion BP's), he must take care of his serve. Against Nadal as of late, I think he can manage that for at least a few hours. Just needs to focus on his serve and not get rattled by the occasional stunning return/s that Nadal sometimes makes (against anybody's serve in general).
Are you inferring Milos mugged up BPs against Fed? He didn't at all...Fed either served well or hit some great shots at key moments. Very impressive clutch display by him, the likes of which I hadn't seen in quite some time.

Obviously if Milos doesn't serve well, he has little chance to beat any top player. His game starts with that first. Have to win those easy points, especially against a guy like Nadal.

misty1
05-12-2012, 08:11 PM
If Raonic wins 20 slams because there is no competition at all (all the others youngsters are so pathetic except Tomic perhaps),
will he be the GOAT?

he will never, ever be anywhere near goat consideration

156mphserve
05-12-2012, 08:18 PM
If Raonic wins 20 slams because there is no competition at all (all the others youngsters are so pathetic except Tomic perhaps),
will he be the GOAT?

When San Jose becomes the 5th slam he will win 35 slams at least:)

LeChuck
05-12-2012, 10:04 PM
Hopefully Milos can enjoy a nice solid career, winning some more ATP titles and enjoying some good runs at the big tournaments. It's about time us Canadians had a player like this to root for.