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Madrid R2: Djokovic def. Gimeno Traver 6-2 2-6 6-3

espana
05-08-2012, 07:46 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X7shUg2bd5s/T6lpq4T2RxI/AAAAAAAAAPw/8L0cQaZE3GE/s1600/Djokovic-GimenoTraver.jpg

Rafa is the GOAT
05-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Bad, bad, bad

comesbackatlast
05-08-2012, 07:47 PM
Highly entertaining.

MachineGun
05-08-2012, 07:47 PM
Life is definitely not worth living anymore.

All luck this Djokovic.

Voo de Mar
05-08-2012, 07:48 PM
I'm surprised D'Joke lost a set to a mug player like Gimeno-Traver, really shouldn't have happened :o

Javi
05-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Outstanding Dani, hitting winners left and right and causing Djokovic a lot of trouble.
I wonder why Dani can't play this way outside of Madrid :sobbing:

:bowdown: Anyway, a Goat Performance of him today.

MagicMilan
05-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Judging by the conditions, Federer will easily sweep through another Madrid title...

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 07:49 PM
Great play from DGT, he looked far better than some top 30 members, credit to him :) Scrappy from Nole, he was slipping on the court, made a lot of DFs in the 2nd, but ultimately played better in 3rd when the match was being decided :)

zlaja777
05-08-2012, 07:49 PM
Djokovic still didn't get used to this surface, he moves like he's playing on ice. DGT was very brave, served great, some of his best tennis in 2nd and 3rd set.
If Novak doesn't get on terms with these blue courts, he won't go further than SF I'm affraid.

JolánGagó
05-08-2012, 07:50 PM
Epic. Give the title to Nole already.

AJDE!

Fireballer
05-08-2012, 07:50 PM
courts suck ass

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 07:51 PM
I'm surprised D'Joke lost a set to a mug player like Gimeno-Traver, really shouldn't have happened :o

There was nothing mug about Gimeno-Traver today, hardly did anything wrong

zlaja777
05-08-2012, 07:51 PM
Judging by the conditions, Federer will easily sweep through another Madrid title...

Yeah, it looks like it. Lets first wait and see how he does agg Raonic who also obviously likes the conditions here..

Voo de Mar
05-08-2012, 07:51 PM
There was nothing mug about Gimeno-Traver today, hardly did anything wrong

Yes, he played a good match, good for him and the local crowd.

SheepleBuster
05-08-2012, 07:52 PM
Wow. I am glad I don't live in Mardid. The stupidity there knows no bound. And the ref, this Mohammad, is the worst umpire. He keeps making mistakes each and every week, glaring ones, and the commentator says he doesn't make them often. What bullcrap!

Djokovic? He ain't winning anything if he continues dropping sets to bums

karool
05-08-2012, 07:52 PM
137

Javi
05-08-2012, 07:53 PM
There was nothing mug about Gimeno-Traver today, hardly did anything wrong

This. He was hitting winners like if there was no tomorrow. Many of them to save break points.
I was impressed with him today.

It' a shame that 95% of the year he is a total mess, though :sobbing:

MachineGun
05-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Did I mention that I wasn't happy with Gimeno-Traver?

TigerTim
05-08-2012, 07:56 PM
nice stuff from Dani

156mphserve
05-08-2012, 07:59 PM
good win for Marko:yeah:

Lee
05-08-2012, 08:00 PM
Great performance by DGT and a subpar Djokovic. But there is a reason that Nole is #1 player and he dug deep in third set to finally break DGT.

zlaja777
05-08-2012, 08:03 PM
good win for Marko:yeah:

:lol: good one.

MIMIC
05-08-2012, 08:11 PM
good win for Marko:yeah:

Heh. :lol:

Didn't see the match. 3/12? Yeesh.

Gagsquet
05-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Did I mention that I wasn't happy with Gimeno-Traver?

:worship:

Hian-GOAT
05-08-2012, 08:14 PM
:spit:

kiriri***
05-08-2012, 08:22 PM
Bad, bad, bad

Djokovic 2nd set was terrible:o W3/UE13 and 1-3(15-40?)*→DF→*1-4:help:

Voo de Mar
05-08-2012, 08:25 PM
Perhaps GT was rewarded playing 4th match on this untypical court whilst for Djokovic it was a debut. I don't expect he would lose a set in the 3rd round, especially playing against Melzer.

timafi
05-08-2012, 08:26 PM
yikes!

Kiedis
05-08-2012, 08:27 PM
lol, Gimeno-Traver hitting more winners than Goatic.

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Perhaps GT was rewarded playing 4th match on this untypical court whilst for Djokovic it was a debut. I don't expect he would lose a set in the 3rd round, especially playing against Melzer.

Yea, that too, Nole almost fell down once or twice in the first few games :)

Yolita
05-08-2012, 08:36 PM
Gimeno Traver played the match of his life. Djokovic obviously doesn't trust the surface enough to move as usual on clay.

I don't mind if he loses early and goes to Rome to practice for Rome and Roland Garros. This surfaces have nothing to do with Roland Garros.

His #1 is safe until Roland Garros, even if he doesn't lift a racquet.

It would be so silly to risk an injury at this point in time.

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Anyway, who cares about #1, I don't think he's planning to dethrone Sampras anyway, a full year almost now is good enough for the books. :)

Hypnotize
05-08-2012, 08:48 PM
I like Gimeno-Traver. He's one of the few Spaniards that are entertaining to watch. He has a big serve and goes for his shots. He played well against Gasquet here last year and he gave Murray a fright at Wimbledon.

Voo de Mar
05-08-2012, 08:49 PM
I like Gimeno-Traver. He's one of the few Spaniards that are entertaining to watch. He has a big serve and goes for his shots. He played well against Gasquet here last year and he gave Murray a fright at Wimbledon.

;)

Corey Feldman
05-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Nole needs to go back in his egg pod

Chris Kuerten
05-08-2012, 09:07 PM
My congratulations to Rafault Nadull for winning another Roland Garros title.

Fireballer
05-08-2012, 09:07 PM
Nole needs to go back in his egg pod

did you see the court? awful

guga2120
05-08-2012, 09:08 PM
The #1 looked thrilled to be on that great court. Hopefully he can just get it together for the later rounds. The way that joke of a court is though, it might take until Rome, a proper clay court.

Mountaindewslave
05-08-2012, 09:13 PM
Gimeno Traver played the match of his life. Djokovic obviously doesn't trust the surface enough to move as usual on clay.

I don't mind if he loses early and goes to Rome to practice for Rome and Roland Garros. This surfaces have nothing to do with Roland Garros.

His #1 is safe until Roland Garros, even if he doesn't lift a racquet.

It would be so silly to risk an injury at this point in time.

lets not exxagerate, Traver was playing well but not out of the lights. Djokovic was just plain bad but that is not entirely his fault considering the ridiculous surface and court color :o not a good sign but maybe he'll work into better form...

Traver did not play the match of his life, however, that is just false. he is a patchy player and at moments in his career has troubled great players.

also your comment about Djokovic's #1 being safe is false, if Djokovic lost early rounds in Madrid/Rome and Nadal were to win them both, then Nadal could possibly take the #1 rank. it's unlikely, but if Djokovic didn't play them and got 0 or a few hundred points at each it would be very close assuming Nadal won the titles

Orange Wombat
05-08-2012, 09:14 PM
:eek: what happened in 2nd set?!!! Wish I had watched this!

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 09:15 PM
lets not exxagerate, Traver was playing well but not out of the lights. Djokovic was just plain bad but that is not entirely his fault considering the ridiculous surface and court color :o not a good sign but maybe he'll work into better form...

Traver did not play the match of his life, however, that is just false. he is a patchy player and at moments in his career has troubled great players.

also your comment about Djokovic's #1 being safe is false, if Djokovic lost early rounds in Madrid/Rome and Nadal were to win them both, then Nadal would attain the #1 rank

Nope. Djokovic could even go on holidays until June 5th. His no.1 ranking is secure until then regardless of what happens.

Mountaindewslave
05-08-2012, 09:22 PM
Nope. Djokovic could even go on holidays until June 5th. His no.1 ranking is secure until then regardless of what happens.

that's false??? IF Djokovic did not play Madrid/Rome he would lose Approximately 2000 points. if Nadal won both tournaments he would gain 800 points. currently the rankings stand:

DJokovic = 12,020
Nadal = 9,615

12,020 - 2000 = 10020
9615 + 800 = 10415

Nadal 10415 > Djokovic 10020

Unless there is some loophole I am unaware of? Obviously Djokovic is participating in these tournaments and will be awarded points and hold onto the #1 rank but I am confused to what exemption you guys thinks exists that would have stop the rank change if he didn't play both Madrid/Rome

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 09:24 PM
that's false??? IF Djokovic did not play Madrid/Rome he would lose Approximately 2000 points. if Nadal won both tournaments he would gain 800 points. currently the rankings stand:

DJokovic = 12,020
Nadal = 9,615

12,020 - 2000 = 10020
9615 + 800 = 10415

Nadal 10415 > Djokovic 10020

Unless there is some loophole I am unaware of? Obviously Djokovic is participating in these tournaments and will be awarded points and hold onto the #1 rank but I am confused to what exemption you guys thinks exists that would have stop the rank change if he didn't play both Madrid/Rome

The Madrid and Roma points are not included in the current rankings, so he can't lose them. They have already been removed.

Until June 5 he can only lose points at RG. So in short, he will be no.1 after Roland Garros even if he doesn't participate in the tournament and skips Rome too and loses next round in Madrid. Until June 5 it's virtually impossible for him to lose no.1

Mountaindewslave
05-08-2012, 09:26 PM
The Madrid and Roma points are not included in the current rankings, so he can't lose them. They have already been removed.

Until June 5 he can only lose points at RG.

oh really? I'm sorry I forgot to consider that the points might not be there! strange. well never mind then but still the results could be detrimental to the #1 ranking post June! was not aware that both tournaments have been removed already at all wow

hipolymer
05-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Nole should have skipped Madrid and played Serbia. Serbia is much better preparation than whatever the **** this is.

arm
05-08-2012, 09:40 PM
I will never ever complain about the French crowds again. Ever. Court was half empty and still they were so hostile.

Nole :cheerleader: please let me see some real tennis next round. :bounce:

Yolita
05-08-2012, 09:48 PM
lets not exxagerate, Traver was playing well but not out of the lights. Djokovic was just plain bad but that is not entirely his fault considering the ridiculous surface and court color :o not a good sign but maybe he'll work into better form...

Traver did not play the match of his life, however, that is just false. he is a patchy player and at moments in his career has troubled great players.

also your comment about Djokovic's #1 being safe is false, if Djokovic lost early rounds in Madrid/Rome and Nadal were to win them both, then Nadal could possibly take the #1 rank. it's unlikely, but if Djokovic didn't play them and got 0 or a few hundred points at each it would be very close assuming Nadal won the titles

No, it isn't. If Novak doesn't lift a racquet until Roland Garros he'll have 11110 points on the 28th of May, calculated as follows:

12020+90-1000=11020+90=11110 (I'm adding the 90 points he earned today and subtracting the 1000 he'll lose from Rome if he doesn't play))

If Nadal wins Madrid and Rome, as he made the finals last year in both tournaments, he'll have:

9615+1000-600+1000=11615-600=11015 (I'm adding 1000 twice for his hypothetical wins in Rome and Madrid and subtracting the 600 points from Rome last year).

If Roger wins Madrid and Rome, he'll have:

8520+1000-90+1000= 10520-90=10430 (I've added 1000 twice for his hypothetical wins and subtracting the 90 points he earned last year in Rome.

So, as you can see, if Nole doesn't lift a racquet from now until Roland Garros, he'll start RG with 11110 points, Rafa can only get to 11015 and Roger to 10430, by winning both Madrid and Rome.

The earliest Nole will lose his #1 will be after Roland Garros, on the 11th of June.

That's why I think he should pull out of Madrid: the courts have nothing to do with Roland Garros, they won't help him prepare, he doesn't need the points, better to prepare in Rome, similar conditions to Roland Garros, and not risk a stupid injury which could derail him from his real goal: Roland Garros plus Olympic gold.

Hypnotize
05-08-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't understand the logic in using this surface. The purpose of the clay court events is for the players to prepare for Roland Garros. I know clay courts vary from tournament to tournament but why use a clay that plays so differently to all the others? They might as well have laid hard courts or even a grass courts for that matter.

munZe konZa
05-08-2012, 10:02 PM
lets not exxagerate, Traver was playing well but not out of the lights. Djokovic was just plain bad but that is not entirely his fault considering the ridiculous surface and court color :o not a good sign but maybe he'll work into better form...

Traver did not play the match of his life, however, that is just false. he is a patchy player and at moments in his career has troubled great players.

also your comment about Djokovic's #1 being safe is false, if Djokovic lost early rounds in Madrid/Rome and Nadal were to win them both, then Nadal could possibly take the #1 rank. it's unlikely, but if Djokovic didn't play them and got 0 or a few hundred points at each it would be very close assuming Nadal won the titles

Even if Nole lost today and didn't play in Rome and Roland Garros , he would still be #1

KaptainKrunch
05-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Pity.

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 10:30 PM
I don't understand the logic in using this surface. The purpose of the clay court events is for the players to prepare for Roland Garros. I know clay courts vary from tournament to tournament but why use a clay that plays so differently to all the others? They might as well have laid hard courts or even a grass courts for that matter.

Why should Madrid folks care about RG? :)

Nole fan
05-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Gimeno Traver played the match of his life. Djokovic obviously doesn't trust the surface enough to move as usual on clay.

I don't mind if he loses early and goes to Rome to practice for Rome and Roland Garros. This surfaces have nothing to do with Roland Garros.

His #1 is safe until Roland Garros, even if he doesn't lift a racquet.

It would be so silly to risk an injury at this point in time.

I agree, what a stupid tournament risking the health of the players.
I don't care what Nole does in Madrid. First match on blue clay, he hasn't adapted to it well. DGT had already four matches on the surface, big difference. However all that is not even enough to beat the Djoker. He will get better.

Naudio Spanlatine
05-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Nole is not liking the clay court at all, you can tell in this match.

Nole fan
05-08-2012, 10:36 PM
Via shuhrat...

Strong words from Djokovic after his first match,


"Center court is impossible to move on. I hit five balls throughout the whole match. With everything else, I was just trying to keep the ball in the court."

"When you slide on the red clay you have a feeling you can stop and recover from that step. But here, whatever you do ... you are always slipping,"

"To me that's not tennis. Either I come out with football shoes or I invite Chuck Norris to advise me how to play on this court. I cannot find the words to describe this court. It's really tough to play like this on a centre court."

"We cannot change anything this year, but my first impressions are not good. I don't want to be the one complaining, but I say honestly what I feel."

"We need serious discussion about the future of this blue clay."

"Not a single player - not woman not man - I didn't hear anyone say 'I like blue clay.'"

Ziros
05-08-2012, 10:42 PM
^LOL yes Chuck Norris is being flown over there right this minute

156mphserve
05-08-2012, 10:45 PM
The Madrid and Roma points are not included in the current rankings, so he can't lose them. They have already been removed.

Until June 5 he can only lose points at RG. So in short, he will be no.1 after Roland Garros even if he doesn't participate in the tournament and skips Rome too and loses next round in Madrid. Until June 5 it's virtually impossible for him to lose no.1

Rome isn't off yet. Just Madrid, but the -1000 from Nole and +400 for Nadal in Rome still wouldn't result in Nadal #1

Gagsquet
05-08-2012, 10:52 PM
Why should Madrid folks care about RG? :)

Because RG is a great tournament and Madrid is shit. They should obey to France.

RIboy
05-08-2012, 10:59 PM
stop whining Fakervic, it's the same for everyone...

p.s. his friend S*itsarevic twitted: @TipsarevicJanko
Even thou its different I like the blue clay...

Time Violation
05-08-2012, 11:03 PM
They should obey to France.

Somehow I don't think that argument is going to hold very well in Spain :p

Alex999
05-08-2012, 11:04 PM
lol at Chuck Norris comment. this is going to be interesting.

Alex999
05-08-2012, 11:07 PM
stop whining Fakervic, it's the same for everyone...

p.s. his friend S*itsarevic twitted: @TipsarevicJanko
Even thou its different I like the blue clay...
well you don't like Djoko, but everyone is whining ... it seems like nobody likes it (including girls)

plus, I'm sick and tired of this "Fakerevic thing" ... so immature and stupid ... Fakerevic is #1 in the world, deal with it b!tch (oops, did I just say that, lol)... what have you accomplished in your life? do you fake it with your gf or your bf? gee, feel sick right now ...

RIboy
05-08-2012, 11:13 PM
well you don't like Djoko, but everyone is whining ... it seems like nobody likes it (including girls)

they could've boycott the tournament, nothing can be done anymore this year...so they all should SHUT UP and play tennis

mystic ice cube
05-08-2012, 11:17 PM
I thought GT played brilliantly. I wonder why he isn't ranked higher.

Filo V.
05-08-2012, 11:23 PM
Good job, Dani! Now time to build on this!

Vida
05-08-2012, 11:36 PM
nobody beats prime djoko.

Chase Visa
05-08-2012, 11:55 PM
tbf DGT always seems to play better here, so it's not that surprising.

Let's see what he can do for the rest of the year.

Lee
05-09-2012, 12:01 AM
they could've boycott the tournament, nothing can be done anymore this year...so they all should SHUT UP and play tennis

And have the same thing happen again next year? Sure!

Lee
05-09-2012, 12:02 AM
From Nole FB post

Today I played my first official match on blue clay and I have to admit I was not very happy. Next time i have to bring skates instead of shoes, it was sooo slippery. Dani played really good match and gave me a lot of trouble. I have to focus on next match now and hopefully It will be better than today.

v-money
05-09-2012, 12:26 AM
Strong words from Djokovic after his first match,


"Center court is impossible to move on. I hit five balls throughout the whole match. With everything else, I was just trying to keep the ball in the court."

"When you slide on the red clay you have a feeling you can stop and recover from that step. But here, whatever you do ... you are always slipping,"

"To me that's not tennis. Either I come out with football shoes or I invite Chuck Norris to advise me how to play on this court. I cannot find the words to describe this court. It's really tough to play like this on a centre court."

"We cannot change anything this year, but my first impressions are not good. I don't want to be the one complaining, but I say honestly what I feel."

"We need serious discussion about the future of this blue clay."

"Not a single player - not woman not man - I didn't hear anyone say 'I like blue clay.'"

1. Djokovic hasn't hit no more than five shots through the court, per match, for over a year now. His recent strategy is always just to keep it in play, anyway.
2. If he wasn't such a pusher and actually went for bigger shots, he wouldn't have to be doing so much scrambling and sliding.
3. Maybe "this is not tennis" to Djokovic because pushing is the only tennis he now knows. I on the contrary think his pushing isn't tennis.
4. Chuck Norris?

Djokovic should suck it up and either change his style of play so he doesn't break his ankles or just lose and move on to the next tournament. This court is slippery but it has clearly favored the more aggressive player. Watching GGL vs Baghdatis yesterday, Baghdatis was often getting wrong footed and slipping on the court, but GGL didn't have any of those problems because he was actually hitting the ball hard and dictating play. This court is not pushers paradise like 99% of the other courts on tour and Djokovic is trying to make sure that this won't last.

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 12:38 AM
1. Djokovic hasn't hit no more than five shots through the court, per match, for over a year now. His recent strategy is always just to keep it in play, anyway.
2. If he wasn't such a pusher and actually went for bigger shots, he wouldn't have to be doing so much scrambling and sliding.
3. Maybe "this is not tennis" to Djokovic because pushing is the only tennis he now knows. I on the contrary think his pushing isn't tennis.
4. Chuck Norris?

Djokovic should suck it up and either change his style of play so he doesn't break his ankles or just lose and move on to the next tournament. This court is slippery but it has clearly favored the more aggressive player. Watching GGL vs Baghdatis yesterday, Baghdatis was often getting wrong footed and slipping on the court, but GGL didn't have any of those problems because he was actually hitting the ball hard and dictating play. This court is not pushers paradise like 99% of the other courts on tour and Djokovic is trying to make sure that this won't last.

I'm starting to wonder if you have any idea about anything.

MIMIC
05-09-2012, 12:43 AM
Chuck Norris :haha:

v-money
05-09-2012, 12:48 AM
I'm starting to wonder if you have any idea about anything.

I have the idea that Djokovic needs slow courts with good footing so he can play 3+ hour matches of pure running to win. The people that will be unhappy with the courts are counter-punchers like Nadal, Simon, Djokovic, and WTA players with no footwork. I don't expect players like Tipsarevic, Berdych, Tsonga or Isner to complain here.

reery
05-09-2012, 12:51 AM
http://www.mycityrocks.com/images/houston/07_04_14norris/IMG_8160sm.jpg

http://www.mycityrocks.com/images/houston/07_04_14norris/IMG_8197sm.jpg

Alex999
05-09-2012, 12:58 AM
So, Djokovic is a pusher, lol... V-money, sorry but but that's just the stupidest thing I've heard in my life. go watch something else, tennis is not for you ..

zlaja777
05-09-2012, 01:12 AM
1. Djokovic hasn't hit no more than five shots through the court, per match, for over a year now. His recent strategy is always just to keep it in play, anyway.
2. If he wasn't such a pusher and actually went for bigger shots, he wouldn't have to be doing so much scrambling and sliding.
3. Maybe "this is not tennis" to Djokovic because pushing is the only tennis he now knows. I on the contrary think his pushing isn't tennis.
4. Chuck Norris?

Djokovic should suck it up and either change his style of play so he doesn't break his ankles or just lose and move on to the next tournament. This court is slippery but it has clearly favored the more aggressive player. Watching GGL vs Baghdatis yesterday, Baghdatis was often getting wrong footed and slipping on the court, but GGL didn't have any of those problems because he was actually hitting the ball hard and dictating play. This court is not pushers paradise like 99% of the other courts on tour and Djokovic is trying to make sure that this won't last.

Awful post. Sorry.

v-money
05-09-2012, 01:17 AM
So, Djokovic is a pusher, lol... V-money, sorry but but that's just the stupidest thing I've heard in my life. go watch something else, tennis is not for you ..

Surely an exaggeration on my part because no on in the top 100 is a pusher, but he's a defensive player like Murray, Simon, Monaco, Nadal. He's even less offensive minded than someone like Ferrer, so of course this surface is going to give him trouble. The surface is slippery, like grass, but Wimbledon grass turns into a dirt court by week 2 and that problem is eliminated.

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 01:20 AM
Surely an exaggeration on my part because no on in the top 100 is a pusher, but he's a defensive player like Murray, Simon, Monaco, Nadal. He's even less offensive minded than someone like Ferrer, so of course this surface is going to give him trouble. The surface is slippery, like grass, but Wimbledon grass turns into a dirt court by week 2 and that problem is eliminated.

Less offenssive minded than Ferrer? lol :facepalm:

Man, just listen to the pros. You might learn something.

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v-money
05-09-2012, 01:31 AM
Less offenssive minded than Ferrer? lol :facepalm:

Nole fan, I'm not sure if you realize this, but Djokovic doesn't hit many winners. He has amazing movement and gets great depth on his shots. This is how he wins matches, but not by playing offensive tennis. If you can't see this, than I can't help you. You can still like his defensive play, because no one even comes close to hitting returns that are as quality as his and staying in points with his acrobatic stretches, but he doesn't hit winners or finish points at net.

In MC both Ferrer and Djokovic played Nadal and it way pretty obvious who came out there with the more aggressive gameplay, even though both lost in straights.

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 01:33 AM
Nole fan, I'm not sure if you realize this, but Djokovic doesn't hit many winners. He has amazing movement and gets great depth on his shots. This is how he wins matches, but not by playing offensive tennis. If you can't see this, than I can't help you. You can still like his defensive play, because no one even comes close to hitting returns that are as quality as his and staying in points with his acrobatic stretches, but he doesn't hit winners or finish points at net.

In MC both Ferrer and Djokovic played Nadal and it way pretty obvious who came out there with the more aggressive gameplay, even though both lost in straights.

Are you judging Nole's whole game based on that lone match in Montecarlo where he was subpar? :haha:

Nole can switch from defensive to offensive whenever he wants and he does that seemlessly, that's precisely what differetiates him from pure defensive players like Nadal and Murray.

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 01:39 AM
:facepalm:

He is so not winning his next round.

v-money
05-09-2012, 01:43 AM
I'm not sure why I'm even wasting my time. Clearly my point is that this surface is not conducive to his style of play because defense is so important in his game. If you think he's such a great offensive player than you should have no worries about this blue surface. I'm sure next match Djokovic will come out hitting the ball as hard as DGT was hitting today, and he won't have any problems with slipping. Today he just wasn't in the mood and let DGT dictate play while he scrambled. Ballbasher Nole to win the title.

v-money
05-09-2012, 01:59 AM
If they were to change the surface because of complaints from the top players, what justification do they have to a player like DGT, who probably had no problem with this surface? "Yeah sorry buddy, the surface hindered NoleGOAT's movement too much and you gave him too much of a tough fight. We're going to change it and make it more of a traditional slow clay so you can get double bageled next year."

Don't you people realize that the person on the other side of the net plays with the same exact conditions? As long is it is not a safety issue, I honestly don't care about, Djokovic, Nadal and Fed complaining. As far as I'm concerned the ankle toll is still: Monte Carlo 2 and Madrid 0, yet these players were not nearly as vocal there.

Alex999
05-09-2012, 02:50 AM
v-money, you are basing too many things on just one match. I've been watching Nole since 2006, and bud trust me he can rip winners from pretty much anywhere ... yes, his defense is great but Djoko is playing a perfect mix of offense and defense atm. this is why he is #1. He was much more aggressive back to 2007/08 but it didn't work out. He had to find that balance.

bud, yes I'm his fan but I really try to be objective about tennis players, their skills, what it is and what isn't.

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 02:55 AM
Are you judging Nole's whole game based on that lone match in Montecarlo where he was subpar? :haha:

Nole can switch from defensive to offensive whenever he wants and he does that seemlessly, that's precisely what differetiates him from pure defensive players like Nadal and Murray.

Nadal purely defensive player? :stupid:

I won't even bother commenting of the stupidity of that comment as well as putting him into the same sentence with weaponless joke like Pushray.-

Sunset of Age
05-09-2012, 03:01 AM
Hmmm. Rather a disappointing performance from Djoko - no offense to Gimeno Traver who did very well indeed considering his ranking and the like.

Perhaps risking the outrage of certain Djoko-tards (nothing personal, folks :angel:), once again: I haven't seen the Djokster's best level of playing for at least six months now... and playing like he did this evening, he's for sure not going to come even close to his results of 2011, let alone be a candidate for RG this year.
Who knows - perhaps it was just a case of him having to adjust to the circumstances and court (slippery when wet, and when not too :help:), getting over the funeral of his granddad, or whatever, but somehow I have my doubts.

As for the genuine loser of this match - Mr. Lahyani.
A very popular ump, but his mistakes in judgement are piling up by the minute. Sorry. :help:

Alex999
05-09-2012, 03:13 AM
Hmmm. Rather a disappointing performance from Djoko - no offense to Gimeno Traver who did very well indeed considering his ranking and the like.

Perhaps risking the outrage of certain Djoko-tards (nothing personal, folks :angel:), once again: I haven't seen the Djokster's best level of playing for at least six months now... and playing like he did this evening, he's for sure not going to come even close to his results of 2011, let alone be a candidate for RG this year.
Who knows - perhaps it was just a case of him having to adjust to the circumstances and court (slippery when wet, and when not too :help:), getting over the funeral of his granddad, or whatever, but somehow I have my doubts.

As for the genuine loser of this match - Mr. Lahyani.
A very popular ump, but his mistakes in judgement are piling up by the minute. Sorry. :help:
the problem in general is that, somehow, Djokovic finds a way to win even when he is playing utter sh!t for his standards. Same with Roger and Rafa. Didn't they win like last "4580000" slams and masters combined in last "69" years ;).

Sunset of Age
05-09-2012, 03:20 AM
the problem in general is that, somehow, Djokovic finds a way to win even when he is playing utter sh!t for his standards. Same with Roger and Rafa. Didn't they win like last "4580000" slams and masters combined in last "69" years ;).

I never claimed that Djok's victory wasn't deserved, did I? ;)

You're right though - it's a sign of the true great champions of the sport to be able to pull out a hard-fought victory, even when not playing well at all. :worship:

Fedal did it quite a couple of times as well, yep yep yep. :D

Alex999
05-09-2012, 03:37 AM
I never claimed that Djok's victory wasn't deserved, did I? ;)

You're right though - it's a sign of the true great champions of the sport to be able to pull out a hard-fought victory, even when not playing well at all. :worship:

Fedal did it quite a couple of times as well, yep yep yep. :D
no hun, you did not. I was just flirting with you, trying to get your attention ;). You know, I love ya :).

oops, I think I'm derailing this thread, lol. AJ, will probably write me up again.

juan27
05-09-2012, 03:41 AM
this court is more a hard court than clay.....

nole for me needs to recover a bit of his agressive tennis of 2007-08 , Nole is playing very deffensive , he needs to recover that mix of 2011

MIMIC
05-09-2012, 04:03 AM
The re-air is in Tennis Channel right now

duchuy89
05-09-2012, 04:17 AM
Bad, bad, bad

Yes, I think so.

Action Jackson
05-09-2012, 04:23 AM
DGT rocking the fluro green headband looks like Joma have done something decent.

Not a bad show from him, got very little to defend for rest of the year. Hopefully he is over the abdominal problem and get back in the top 100.

Yes, we know the courts are shit.

Action Jackson
05-09-2012, 04:24 AM
Don't you people realize that the person on the other side of the net plays with the same exact conditions? As long is it is not a safety issue, I honestly don't care about, Djokovic, Nadal and Fed complaining. As far as I'm concerned the ankle toll is still: Monte Carlo 2 and Madrid 0, yet these players were not nearly as vocal there.

Monte Carlo's court apart from this year are excellent whereas Madrid's have always been crap that's why.

Yolita
05-09-2012, 05:16 AM
I'm looking forward to a Raonic/Isner Madrid final. No movement, just serving. Whoever serves more aces, wins.

Who wants to see grown men running around and sweating anyway? :lol: :lol:

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 05:18 AM
Djokovic is overrated as fuck.

MIMIC
05-09-2012, 05:32 AM
Do Spanish crowds know how to cheer for someone other than a fellow Spanish-speaking player (or a player that speaks Portuguese) :spit:

nick the greek
05-09-2012, 09:11 AM
Rome isn't off yet. Just Madrid, but the -1000 from Nole and +400 for Nadal in Rome still wouldn't result in Nadal #1
NO,it would NOT.

Deivid23
05-09-2012, 09:13 AM
Good stuff from Dani and well played in the third set, Nole

nick the greek
05-09-2012, 09:14 AM
Djokovic is overrated as fuck.
And yet he's #1.Sukit hata.

CooCooCachoo
05-09-2012, 09:47 AM
DGT has been crap all year, then has a really sudden reversal of form.

Hypnotize
05-09-2012, 12:05 PM
Djokovic is overrated as fuck.
Something that can never be said about you. ;)

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 03:41 PM
I'm joking. God you people are thick :facepalm:. Well at least I made Nole_fan good rep me by mistake ;).

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 03:52 PM
I'm joking. God you people are thick :facepalm:. Well at least I made Nole_fan good rep me by mistake ;).

It wasn't a mistake, I never badrep unless you're a total ass. :p

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 03:54 PM
Well played :devil:. I'm sawwwri about before if I hurt your feelings though :hug:

Alex999
05-09-2012, 03:55 PM
Djokovic is overrated as fuck.
agree 100% ... just not sure how this silly mug managed to win 5 slams, being #1. please help me understand ;)

bro, you naughty, naughty boy, lol

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 03:57 PM
Man, without an emoticon attached, you noobs really think I mean't that seriously.

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 03:59 PM
Man, without an emoticon attached, you noobs really think I mean't that seriously.

I knew you were just trolling, I mean, it's obvious to anyone. But it surprised me coming from you, completely out of character. I believe you're also a Novak fan, though you favor more Rafa, aren't you? :p

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 04:01 PM
I'm a fan of tennis, I'll say that much ;). Not really out of character, I'm a mixed bag. I enjoy seeing people get so soft after a hard comment about something. It's quite hilarious.

Except for clowns. I guess.

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 04:17 PM
I'm a fan of tennis, I'll say that much ;). Not really out of character, I'm a mixed bag. I enjoy seeing people get so soft after a hard comment about something. It's quite hilarious.

Except for clowns. I guess.

Well it's the charm of MTF. :p

Noleta
05-09-2012, 04:47 PM
agree 100% ... just not sure how this silly mug managed to win 5 slams, being #1. please help me understand ;)

bro, you naughty, naughty boy, lol

Because it's a mug era,according to MTF:shrug::p

Novak,what was that,in the second set?:o Credits to GT,he played out of his skin,but still:spit:

Nole Rules
05-09-2012, 04:54 PM
IMO he should just tank in the QF vs Janko and get out of this joke tournement asap. He can't even move on this crap clay.

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 04:56 PM
That's if he even beat del Bonis :lol:

Nole fan
05-09-2012, 09:49 PM
Loved this bit by Tignor... :)

Still, his initial reaction to the surface was hardly a surprise. It's Novak's style to let things get to him—in this case, the surface—before he can put them aside and play tennis. Unlike Federer and Nadal, there’s a small, highly strung part of Djokovic that doesn’t want to calmly and logically compete for an entire match. There’s a frazzled part of him that wants to pull the plug and just let the ball sail. What’s interesting is watching the more responsible side of Djokovic let that that guy have his say and then reel him in. It’s not the most efficient method of winning tennis championships, but for those of us who like to watch Novak and who try to play a little tennis too, it’s a familiar one. Fighting ourselves along with the opponent? We can relate. Djokovic, in his dramatic way, shows us how to make it work.

castle007
05-09-2012, 10:58 PM
Am I reading this right? Djokovic only came in to the net TWICE??? Both players came in a total of 6 times?

WTF

Alex999
05-10-2012, 12:13 AM
Am I reading this right? Djokovic only came in to the net TWICE??? Both players came in a total of 6 times?

WTF
man, who cares? LLodra and Sexy Radek are the only guys on the tour who s&v (or come to the net :)). everyone else is baseliners, coming to the net when they have too. I've seen Fed and Djoko coming to the net at some key match points, but mostly to surprise their opponents.