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Madrid R2 WWW: John Isner vs Marin Cilic

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 12:12 PM
This could be one of the most interesting matches of the second round, if not the most interesting.

The only time these two faced was in the third round of the 2011 Australian Open. It was an epic match, with Cilic prevailing 9-7 in the fifth set.

Much has changed since, with Isner a much better player now and Cilic seemingly regressing. But Marin seems to have found some form lately and Isner hasn't played since Houston.

Isner is the favorite given rankings and form this year, but I think Marin can definitely cause a (mini)upset here and take down John. His height will make John's kick serve less efficient than usual, I think. The surface is low bouncing, which doesn't favor Isner either.

What do you think?

n3gative
05-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Isner in 3

Chase Visa
05-08-2012, 12:21 PM
Isner in 3. Seems like these courts would favour Isner.

Audacity
05-08-2012, 12:24 PM
Isner should get this in 2 I think.

Sapeod
05-08-2012, 12:26 PM
Isner is much better than last time and Cilic is a clown. Isner will win rather easily if he plays well.

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 12:33 PM
Isner is much better than last time and Cilic is a clown. Isner will win rather easily if he plays well.

Short memory much? Look at what the "clown" did to your favorite in the biggest stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfhz_oqIcg

Nice prediction by the way. If Isner wins easily, you can brag about your predictive skills. If he struggles or even loses, you can simply say he didn't play well. You can't lose. Well played

RIboy
05-08-2012, 12:35 PM
Isnah will kill him

Sapeod
05-08-2012, 12:39 PM
Short memory much? Look at what the "clown" did to your favorite in the biggest stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfhz_oqIcg

Nice prediction by the way. If Isner wins easily, you can brag about your predictive skills. If he struggles or even loses, you can simply say he didn't play well. You can't lose. Well played
I was expecting a reply like this :yawn: Even you newbies are predictable :yawn: Believe it or not, Cilic used to be a fairly good player.

It's not a prediction, it's fact. Isner's level is above Cilic's by some way nowadays. So, if Isner plays well enough, he wins. Simple. Understand?

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 12:44 PM
I was expecting a reply like this :yawn: Even you newbies are predictable :yawn: Believe it or not, Cilic used to be a fairly good player.

It's not a prediction, it's fact. Isner's level is above Cilic's by some way nowadays. So, if Isner plays well enough, he wins. Simple. Understand?

He still is a fairly good player, although not as good as he used to be. You can't be ranked as high as Cilic if you're a clown.

And no, it's not a fact. The fact that Isner has been playing better than Cilic lately doesn't mean that Marin can't play lights out for a match and take him out even if Isner plays great.

Tennis is full of cases where players catch fire and beat players who are theoretically better than them and higher ranked, especially when we're talking about players who are capable of playing superb tennis like Cilic. You'll soon learn that if you stick around.

BroTree123
05-08-2012, 12:47 PM
Don't waste your words on this clown man, it's not worth it. Really.

LastRocket
05-08-2012, 01:01 PM
Giant vs Giant always a tough one.
Cilic in 3

asmazif
05-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Isner 7-6, 7-5

mooncreek
05-08-2012, 04:32 PM
Since people are looking at Isner as a serious clay threat, he's going to have to deliver quickly. Cilic has been gaining momentum on the clay.

I don't see this one being an easy match. Cilic in 3rd set tiebreak.

Deathless Mortal
05-08-2012, 04:44 PM
To the OP: Cilic wasn't in form when he beat him in 2011 AO ;)
He had a bad ending to 2010 and lost in Chennai R1 prior to that tournament. If anything, he is in a better form now than he was back then.
About this match, a lot will depend on whether the surface will suit Isner or not, and also on Marin's FS %. Isner in 3 would be my pick if I had to guess.

tennizen
05-08-2012, 04:48 PM
Cilic will take it to a tiebreak in each set and lose. So Isner 7-6, 7-6.

emotion
05-08-2012, 05:04 PM
7-6 7-6 Isner

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 05:04 PM
To the OP: Cilic wasn't in form when he beat him in 2011 AO ;)
He had a bad ending to 2010 and lost in Chennai R1 prior to that tournament. If anything, he is in a better form now than he was back then.
About this match, a lot will depend on whether the surface will suit Isner or not, and also on Marin's FS %. Isner in 3 would be my pick if I had to guess.

I didn't say he was in form back in AO 2011. My point was that he seems to be gradually regressing ever since he had that great run in late 2009/early 2010.

I do know he's found some form lately and I hope it's beginning of his ascent to the top 10 (at least).

HattonWBA
05-08-2012, 06:23 PM
Cilic will win in three sets.

Deathless Mortal
05-08-2012, 06:38 PM
I didn't say he was in form back in AO 2011. My point was that he seems to be gradually regressing ever since he had that great run in late 2009/early 2010.

I do know he's found some form lately and I hope it's beginning of his ascent to the top 10 (at least).

No, but you said much has changed since that match. At least when Cilic is concerned, it's not true.

Mark Lenders
05-08-2012, 06:56 PM
No, but you said much has changed since that match. At least when Cilic is concerned, it's not true.

Fair enough, can't argue with that. And yes, the changes have mostly been with John, who's a much improved player.

duchuy89
05-09-2012, 03:11 AM
John Isner - Marin Cilic: 7-6, 6-7, 7-6

Topspindoctor
05-09-2012, 03:17 AM
In this type of match, you can only hope there are 2 losers.

BroTree123
05-09-2012, 03:56 AM
The universe dies when matches like these take place.

samanosuke
05-09-2012, 06:29 AM
Cilic winning at least one breaker is NID :haha:

daddy
05-09-2012, 01:16 PM
Cilic winning at least one breaker is NID :haha:

:angel:

daddy
05-09-2012, 01:21 PM
7-6 7-6 Isner

1 out of 2 ain't bad. Got the score right but not the player.