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What's the point of living?

Sofonda Cox
03-20-2012, 09:44 PM
Please enlighten me.

Johnny Groove
03-20-2012, 09:50 PM
Don't let the haters get to you.

Hewitt =Legend
03-20-2012, 09:56 PM
To watch Nole matches.

Ajde :sad:

scoobs
03-20-2012, 10:10 PM
There isn't one.

But since you're here, might as well make the best of it. It'll be over before long anyway - we're a brief insignificant blip on one planet in a vast, turbulent universe, shining brightly and then winking out. You're a long time dead, so live well, have fun, be nice to people.

Sofonda Cox
03-20-2012, 10:27 PM
There isn't one.


You're right.

Tulipe
03-20-2012, 10:28 PM
42 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy)#Answer_to_ the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe.2C_a nd_Everything_.2842.29)

scoobs
03-20-2012, 10:29 PM
You're right.
That's my view as a non-religious person - I don't see myself as part of the master plan of some invisible sky spirit, I don't think I have a grand destiny to fulfil either, so...in the larger sense, there is no point to my existence, except what I am able to make of it.

Time Violation
03-20-2012, 10:34 PM
That's my view as a non-religious person - I don't see myself as part of the master plan of some invisible sky spirit, I don't think I have a grand destiny to fulfil either, so...in the larger sense, there is no point to my existence, except what I am able to make of it.

^^50k posts :worship: Btw, if there's no point, then you can't really make anything of it, can you?

scoobs
03-20-2012, 10:41 PM
^^50k posts :worship: Btw, if there's no point, then you can't really make anything of it, can you?

You can make the best of your time here - be a good friend, partner, lover, son/daughter, parent, workmate - make the best you can of the hand you were dealt and enhance the lives of those around you with your presence - that's about all any of us can do. We're all here, I don't advocate mass suicide in the face of the pointlessness of existence, so we might as well try and be good to each other and leave the metaphysical questions to whatever higher beings there might be out there.

Time Violation
03-20-2012, 10:47 PM
Yup, in that case one could ask why should we be good then, when we are all going to die very soon - doesn't matter anyway, but perhaps there's no point asking such things :)

Orka_n
03-20-2012, 10:50 PM
I on the other hand honestly believe that there is a purpose to your existence (and mine): To appreciate the company of other people as well as form a relationship with God.

scoobs
03-20-2012, 10:57 PM
Yup, in that case one could ask why should we be good then, when we are all going to die very soon - doesn't matter anyway, but perhaps there's no point asking such things :)
We're all going to die soon, but we can choose how to spend that time alive - making ourselves and everyone else miserable, or enhancing the lives of others. Personally I'm happier being happy and making other people happy if I can...

Filo V.
03-20-2012, 10:59 PM
I wonder what it is myself, especially knowing how the world is such a horrible place.

buddyholly
03-20-2012, 11:15 PM
To have fun. And not interfere with others having fun.

BroTree123
03-21-2012, 12:09 AM
We're here because we're here.

Nidhogg
03-21-2012, 12:10 AM
We're romantic beings who love simple, elegant answers to all questions. There needn't be a point.

My philosophy in general is about focusing on what I can do with what I'm given, rather than what anyone or anything highly hypothetical would have intended for me. I see possibility rather than purpose.

fast_clay
03-21-2012, 12:59 AM
we are but a collection of highly improbable mistakes... on every level... there can be no point where extreme luck is concerned

you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake... where you are now, you cannot imagine what the bottom will be like...

tripwires
03-21-2012, 01:21 AM
To spend 20+ years on this planet deluding yourself that you're working towards "a future" and working hard towards said future, just for life to throw you a fucking curveball out of nowhere that sounds, looks, tastes and smells like a terminal disease, thereby robbing you of said "future" and rendering life rather meaningless. I guess the best that anyone can do is hope to hell that one somehow avoids bad luck and shitty coincidences that lead to said bad luck. Anyone who really thinks there's a grand plan or "predestination" is, quite honestly, retarded.

Time Violation
03-21-2012, 01:48 AM
To spend 20+ years on this planet deluding yourself that you're working towards "a future" and working hard towards said future, just for life to throw you a fucking curveball out of nowhere that sounds, looks, tastes and smells like a terminal disease, thereby robbing you of said "future" and rendering life rather meaningless. I guess the best that anyone can do is hope to hell that one somehow avoids bad luck and shitty coincidences that lead to said bad luck. Anyone who really thinks there's a grand plan or "predestination" is, quite honestly, retarded.

I don't get the correlation between the two. If there is no grand plan as you say, then it's not really a bad luck, since death is inevitable - there is nothing to fulfill, so few years here or there should be meaningless.

WarriorA
03-21-2012, 02:14 AM
Not sure, but I'll take whatever comes out.

I've wondered the same thing at points in my life, but that was when I gave too much weight to what was happening in my external environment. Now, I'm delighted by simple things and am thankful each day I'm alive.

Keep up the fight. Sometimes willingness to move through pain helps you to find purpose. It also gives you a chance to see just how strong you are.

Smoke944
03-21-2012, 02:17 AM
To have fun. And not interfere with others having fun.

Best answer in the thread IMO

tripwires
03-21-2012, 02:48 AM
I don't get the correlation between the two. If there is no grand plan as you say, then it's not really a bad luck, since death is inevitable - there is nothing to fulfill, so few years here or there should be meaningless.

Death is inevitable but most people don't die until they're 70 or 80. For those that meet with the inevitability of death way before that, e.g. by way of a terminal illness, no one sane would not stop to question why. I've heard all sorts of reasons: the religious like to chalk it down to "God's plan"; the less religious and probably agnostic like to talk about "destiny" or "predestination", which is a variation on the idea of "God's plan". These two ideas imply that there is a larger force at work in the universe, with the only difference between the two being the mode of identification of the said larger force (for Christians - a God; for non-Christians - destiny, fate, cosmic forces, whatever). But it's glaringly obvious to me that these ideas are borne out of a weak human need to find meaning in what is really dumb luck, sheer coincidence. In other words, the reason why something bad happens to someone but not someone else is because that person is unlucky; when two people meet and fall in love, it's not because "fate brought them together" but simply because they coincidentally happened to be at the right place at the right time. No point trying to dress up this fact, stark as it is, by reference to a higher power, some sentimental yearning or longing for a "larger purpose" such as "fate" or "destiny" so as to justify human existence and give it seriousness. Nice try. But I don't buy it. Oscar Wilde was spot-on when he said that the basis for optimism is sheer terror.

Snowwy
03-21-2012, 03:02 AM
To leave a mark and inspire others in the future to accomplish great things.

emotion
03-21-2012, 03:03 AM
There is no point. There is no inherent meaning in life, you can enjoy it if capable. Thusfar, it seems I am not.

Time Violation
03-21-2012, 03:06 AM
Death is inevitable but most people don't die until they're 70 or 80. For those that meet with the inevitability of death way before that, e.g. by way of a terminal illness, no one sane would not stop to question why. I've heard all sorts of reasons: the religious like to chalk it down to "God's plan"; the less religious and probably agnostic like to talk about "destiny" or "predestination", which is variation on the idea of "God's plan". These two ideas imply that there is a larger force at work in the universe, with the only difference between the two being the mode of identification of the said larger force (for Christians - a God; for non-Christians - destiny, fate, cosmic forces, whatever). But it's glaringly obvious to me that these ideas are borne out of a weak human need to find meaning in what is really dumb luck, sheer coincidence. In other words, the reason why something bad happens to someone but not someone else is because that person is unlucky; when two people meet and fall in love, it's not because "fate brought them together" but simply because they coincidentally happened to be at the right place at the right time. No point trying to dress up this fact, stark as it is, by reference to a higher power, some sentimental yearning or longing for a "larger purpose" such as "fate" or "destiny" so as to justify human existence and give it seriousness. Nice try. But I don't buy it. Oscar Wilde was spot-on when he said that the basis for optimism is sheer terror.

Well, I wouldn't try to assign every and any small thing to a higher power, however it's - as you say - glaringly obvious that there are laws at work everywhere around us; the law of gravity, the laws of thermodynamics, the laws of movement and plethora of others.

And they are as good on Earth as they are on the Moon, on the Sun or in another galaxy. Odds that all that is just dumb luck are monstrously small, probably even worse than for Shakespeare's Monkeys.

tripwires
03-21-2012, 03:25 AM
Well, I wouldn't try to assign every and any small thing to a higher power, however it's - as you say - glaringly obvious that there are laws at work everywhere around us; the law of gravity, the laws of thermodynamics, the laws of movement and plethora of others.

And they are as good on Earth as they are on the Moon, on the Sun or in another galaxy. Odds that all that is just dumb luck are monstrously small, probably even worse than for Shakespeare's Monkeys.

I don't disagree. I don't have an opinion on the science behind life on Earth/the universe. I just don't like the sentimentality inherent in the continued efforts by the human race to 1) attribute these laws to a higher power; and 2) ascribe more meaning to them than what they actually possess. I'm an atheist so obviously I don't buy into the concept of "God's plan" at all. I guess my irreligiousness is so extreme that I can't even fathom, or comprehend, the idea of fate and some ill-defined larger force at work that changes a person's path in life and determines what happens to him. It seems to me like whatever happens to us simply happens; there is really no larger purpose or meaning, and there is no larger force at work that orchestrates these events. Otherwise, why the hell would a good person die young and an asshole live out the whole of his natural life? I mean, I would really like to know this. I've thought about this constantly over the last few months and nothing makes sense to me - religion, some fuzzy concept of fate/the cosmos dictating shit/whatever - except that shit happens, it's too bad, there is no god, now move on with your life.

tripwires
03-21-2012, 03:26 AM
Off-topic: wow our post counts are so close. Now I feel a competitive need to overtake you.

Naudio Spanlatine
03-21-2012, 03:45 AM
Please enlighten me.

Oh hun i use to ask myself this question all the time, you are not the only one:hug: :hug: :smooch: :smooch: :smooch:

LittleGloves
03-21-2012, 04:14 AM
Because we have beaten the other millions of sperms to be born in the world.

Kat_YYZ
03-21-2012, 06:13 AM
Off-topic: wow our post counts are so close. Now I feel a competitive need to overtake you.

:haha:
/end thread ... we have our answer :haha:
Strip :hug:

tripwires
03-21-2012, 06:37 AM
The meaning of life = MTF. The point of living is to amass as many posts on MTF as possible. :hearts:

Thanks for helping me figure this out, Kat. :hug:

Sofonda Cox
03-21-2012, 06:59 AM
You're born. Life is garbage (with small amounts of false hope thrown in along the way). Then you die.

tripwires
03-21-2012, 07:17 AM
You're born. Life is garbage (with small amounts of false hope thrown in along the way). Then you die.

Basically this: "...the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."

samanosuke
03-21-2012, 07:46 AM
survive from today to tomorrow and hope you'll get lucky once

EddieNero
03-21-2012, 08:23 AM
To read MTF.

Gagsquet
03-21-2012, 10:30 AM
Life is dark. But we are light. We just need to understand how shiny we are. When you understand it, you illumine your own existence and make it bearable.

takuma
03-21-2012, 12:14 PM
The meaning of life? You can find the answer here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085959/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk&feature=BFa&list=PL8AE8080814F76710&lf=results_video

gaitare
03-21-2012, 12:19 PM
MTF is a glimmer of hope for people who are genetically unhappy.

Johnny Groove
03-21-2012, 12:20 PM
Life is what you make of it. If you believe there is no God, there is no guiding light, then your life will follow such a trend.

On the other hand, if you believe in miracles, destiny, and a higher calling, you will see incredible things happening. I already can attest to that.

The most powerful muscle in the body is the mind.

Me, I am an agnostic theist. I don't believe in any organized religion. Why? I don't believe in something that says if you don't believe in it, you are an infidel and deserve to rot in hell. If I believe in Christianity, that means that anyone who believes in any other religion isn't worthy of heaven? If I am a Muslim, and there are people who do not believe, they deserve to burn in an eternal underground fire?

I'm sorry, but I can't subscribe to such theories. I believe that yes, there is a God. Yes, there is a heaven and a hell. And hell is a very lonely place. Heaven is jumpin'. I believe God is an androgynous figure, of both male and female parts, and wants nothing but love for and from all of his creations. I believe God sits up in heaven and weeps on the state of the planet Earth these days. It can't be easy running the universe these days, we oughta cut God some slack.

As for why good people die and assholes get to live long as someone asked prior? My theory is that when God takes a good person young, he immortalizes them. Whatever they spoke out for or against, God makes even more of an imprint by taking them. When Abe Lincoln died, his legacy was immortalized. When MLK Jr. died, his legacy was immortalized. When John F. Kennedy was killed, his legacy? Immortalized. God does have a plan, and though we don't realize it at the moment, all happens for a reason.

To sum it up, I believe the meaning of life is to be good to one another, spread happiness, not hate, and to be accepting of all other people regardless of any stupid arbitrary label one wants to put on people. Where they are from, what they believe, how much money they make, what color is their skin, who gives a fuck? Love everyone, forgive those who are nasty towards you, and when you die, no one knows what happens. Just be a good person on this planet and let the afterlife worry about itself.

Besides, at the end of the day, we humans are all little more than glorified monkeys running around on a rock in the vast expanses of the universe. We are nothing more than a speck on the timeline of the universe, and nothing more than a tiny dot in the grand scheme of the universe. And we have the audacity to hate each other for bullshit reasons? Come on, people, we are alone here, in this Solar System at least, the least we can do is be civil towards each other. And not doing it because of a fear of a guy upstairs, but because it is the right thing to do.

Filo V.
03-21-2012, 12:34 PM
You're born. Life is garbage (with small amounts of false hope thrown in along the way). Then you die.This is the reality, although people will make posts full of hope and cheeriness. Life's a bitch and it's how you accept and adjust to this that matters. We're living in a world with evil all around us. There are positive moments, there are rays of sunshine, you have to keep going to see and hope those days come again. I question sometimes if it's even worth it, to go through the struggles, to read the countless stories of horrific behavior I didn't think was possible from my fellow man. The world is really total bullshit. Genuinely kind, sensitive hearted individuals aren't cut out for it, we're too good for this.

tripwires
03-21-2012, 12:35 PM
As for why good people die and assholes get to live long as someone asked prior? My theory is that when God takes a good person young, he immortalizes them. Whatever they spoke out for or against, God makes even more of an imprint by taking them. When Abe Lincoln died, his legacy was immortalized. When MLK Jr. died, his legacy was immortalized. When John F. Kennedy was killed, his legacy? Immortalized. God does have a plan, and though we don't realize it at the moment, all happens for a reason.


What about some random, ordinary guy who's just trying to live his life like a normal, ordinary person who wakes up one day and finds himself with a terminal illness? How is this random person "immortalised" in any way? The truth is that once this person dies he's simply forgotten by the world and it would be as if he never existed - this is true for every single one of us who will live this life making absolutely zero impact on the world. Unfortunately for the random person in this case, he gets to do so way before the end of his natural life.

No offence, but your post pretty much exemplifies the kind of dishonest sentimentality that I talked about in my preceding posts. It's a clear cut example of the sheer terror that human beings face when confronted with the possibility (probability, really; or actually, simple fact) that life could actually be meaningless, which then prompts said human beings to concoct some elaborate story to explain away the meaninglessness, attribute artificial meaning to it, give it seriousness. It would probably make sense to you until something huge happens that turns your world upside down. I, for one, hope it never happens to you and that you get to live your life happy, optimistic, and believeing in a "god's plan", whatever the hell that is.

gaitare
03-21-2012, 12:36 PM
http://friendswelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/pale_blue_dot.jpg

Johnny Groove
03-21-2012, 12:46 PM
This is the reality, although people will make posts full of hope and cheeriness. Life's a bitch and it's how you accept and adjust to this that matters. We're living in a world with evil all around us. There are positive moments, there are rays of sunshine, you have to keep going to see and hope those days come again. I question sometimes if it's even worth it, to go through the struggles, to read the countless stories of horrific behavior I didn't think was possible from my fellow man. The world is really total bullshit. Genuinely kind, sensitive hearted individuals aren't cut out for it, we're too good for this.

Mentality, man, mentality. What you believe will be, will be.

What about some random, ordinary guy who's just trying to live his life like a normal, ordinary person who wakes up one day and finds himself with a terminal illness? How is this random person "immortalised" in any way? The truth is that once this person dies he's simply forgotten by the world and it would be as if he never existed - this is true for every single one of us who will live this life making absolutely zero impact on the world. Unfortunately for the random person in this case, he gets to do so way before the end of his natural life.

What about his family? Will they simply forget him? If a man is struck by a terminal illness and dies, we ought not to be sad, we ought to be happy. He is in a better place, no pain, no hurt, in heaven with God, trying to make the world a better place from above. This is what I believe.

No offence, but your post pretty much exemplifies the kind of dishonest sentimentality that I talked about in my preceding posts. It's a clear cut example of the sheer terror that human beings face when confronted with the possibility (probability, really; or actually, simple fact) that life could actually be meaningless, which then prompts said human beings to concoct some elaborate story to explain away the meaninglessness, attribute artificial meaning to it, give it seriousness. It would probably make sense to you until something huge happens that turns your world upside down. I, for one, hope it never happens to you and that you get to live your life happy, optimistic, and believeing in a "god's plan", whatever the hell that is.

Dishonest sentimentality? I am 100% honest and believe every word I wrote. Trust me, I've had a million ups and downs in my life, thought I would die more than once, and am quite frankly lucky to be alive and healthy right now. Maybe it is those experiences that shape my thinking, i dunno. But like I said to Filo V., it is all about what you think and believe. If you believe life is meaningless, then guess what? Your mind will interpret life as meaningless, and all you experience will be through this prism of meaninglessness.

Life is only meaningless if you believe it to be meaningless.

It is like in a tennis match. If you are facing break point and can think about nothing but double faulting, what do you think will happen?

Sham Kay
03-21-2012, 12:59 PM
Pretty sure we're asleep for billions of years, then wake up for an average of 70 years (for what probably feels like an unbearably long amount of time), then sleep again for an eternity.

Guess we just try to experience as many different things that life has to offer as we can, like fun, lurrrve and even the "negative" things like dispair. I mean, if you really think it all just doesn't matter, you're in a better position than those that want life to mean something and appreciate it, since you have nothing to lose. You can go wild without giving a crap.

We just have to count ourselves unlucky that we actually have an understanding of our existence (through opinions each of us have stolen from other people we have met in our lives, and combined to form our own opinions) and are able to put it into things we call words to describe it. Being able to discuss it is more torture than anything else tbh.

This is one of the only questions to which you know you can never be proven wrong, or justifiably criticised for having that opinion. That's a comfort at least.

tripwires
03-21-2012, 01:12 PM
What about his family? Will they simply forget him? If a man is struck by a terminal illness and dies, we ought not to be sad, we ought to be happy. He is in a better place, no pain, no hurt, in heaven with God, trying to make the world a better place from above. This is what I believe.


We ought to be HAPPY that a young person dies from a terminal illness? What if the said person is 25 and has his whole life ahead of him? We should be HAPPY that he's dying? Seriously, I'm genuinely asking: how does this make any sense to you? Trying to make a better place from above? Because all the faceless, unknown people that have died in centuries before ours have made our world such a wonderful place today? Seriously?

His family dies too, and so do every single person who's ever known him in his lifetime. He'd be forgotten in the exact same way that every single random person who isn't named Shakespeare or Wilde or King or Lincoln or Napoleon or Chiang has been simply forgotten. Where does this immortality that you spoke about previously come in then? Simple: it doesn't.


Dishonest sentimentality? I am 100% honest and believe every word I wrote. Trust me, I've had a million ups and downs in my life, thought I would die more than once, and am quite frankly lucky to be alive and healthy right now. Maybe it is those experiences that shape my thinking, i dunno. But like I said to Filo V., it is all about what you think and believe. If you believe life is meaningless, then guess what? Your mind will interpret life as meaningless, and all you experience will be through this prism of meaninglessness.

Life is only meaningless if you believe it to be meaningless.

It is like in a tennis match. If you are facing break point and can think about nothing but double faulting, what do you think will happen?

I didn't mean dishonest in the sense that you were lying, but nevermind about that. I'd definitely concede that I have a negative disposition, but I also prefer to have people appealing to my logical and rational side. If something doesn't make sense to me, then I will see it as a very human tendency to try to make sense of the senseless as a form of consolation. That's what religion is to me, essentially.

solowyn
03-21-2012, 01:31 PM
http://friendswelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/pale_blue_dot.jpg
:yeah: Just a dot.

Har-Tru
03-21-2012, 02:00 PM
We're romantic beings who love simple, elegant answers to all questions. There needn't be a point.

My philosophy in general is about focusing on what I can do with what I'm given, rather than what anyone or anything highly hypothetical would have intended for me. I see possibility rather than purpose.

My, aren't you just brilliant!

Johnny Groove
03-21-2012, 02:49 PM
We ought to be HAPPY that a young person dies from a terminal illness? What if the said person is 25 and has his whole life ahead of him? We should be HAPPY that he's dying? Seriously, I'm genuinely asking: how does this make any sense to you? Trying to make a better place from above? Because all the faceless, unknown people that have died in centuries before ours have made our world such a wonderful place today? Seriously?

You definitely have a negative disposition, and thus view the world in such a light. Nothing wrong with that. Even though we may disagree, I still love you as a person.

As for when a young person dies, yes, it is human to feel grief. To ask why him, why so young? To feel sadness, of course, all human emotions. But after that, I believe we should be happy that a person is no longer with us. Not happy because we didn't like him and want him gone, but happy that he is in a happier, more peaceful place. Happy for him because he doesn't have to put up with all the bullshit in life that you yourself seem to have such a negative outlook on. Anyone who dies, to me, personally, I am saddened, sure, but then I am happy for them to be in a better place. And when I die, I hope people think the same way. And if they don't, I love them regardless.

And making a better place from above, I have a theory that when people die, God uses them in heaven. To remind his family members of him and to be happy, to show up as a spirit in people's dreams urging them to go after their goals. Maybe I am crazy, maybe all of this is bullshit, but this is what I believe.

His family dies too, and so do every single person who's ever known him in his lifetime. He'd be forgotten in the exact same way that every single random person who isn't named Shakespeare or Wilde or King or Lincoln or Napoleon or Chiang has been simply forgotten. Where does this immortality that you spoke about previously come in then? Simple: it doesn't.

They are forgotten if people forget them. A random, insignificant person who died 500 years ago is maybe forgotten in terms of Earthly people, but their spirit and soul still reside in heaven. I see heaven as an eternal garden, filled with whatever it is you desire. There is a lake, an ocean, water sports, tennis courts, massage tables, vodka martini's, and Bob Marley smoking weed with Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad. :D

I didn't mean dishonest in the sense that you were lying, but nevermind about that. I'd definitely concede that I have a negative disposition, but I also prefer to have people appealing to my logical and rational side. If something doesn't make sense to me, then I will see it as a very human tendency to try to make sense of the senseless as a form of consolation. That's what religion is to me, essentially.

In my studies I have found that Eastern peoples, Asians, seem to think and believe more with their logic and rational side. Confucianism for instance, is based more on a set of principles of how we ought to live our lives and be good to each other as opposed to a series of stories of how the Earth was created and who to trust or not trust, who to love or not love.

I would agree with this. Organized religion has taken a step too far, imo, in trying to control what people think and do. To me, the Catholic Church is the biggest Mafia organization on the planet, and put Uncle Toni, Tony Soprano, Tony Montana, Don Corleone, and all the Sicilians to shame.

swisht4u
03-21-2012, 10:57 PM
Whether a god or no god.

Do your best.

Treat others fairly.

And don't put any 'bull' in your posts.

Gagsquet
03-21-2012, 11:01 PM
The Laughing Heart by Charles Bukowski

your life is your life
donít let it be clubbed into dank submission.
be on the watch.
there are ways out.
there is a light somewhere.
it may not be much light but
it beats the darkness.
be on the watch.
the gods will offer you chances.
know them.
take them.
you canít beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.
your life is your life.
know it while you have it.
you are marvelous
the gods wait to delight
in you.

fast_clay
03-21-2012, 11:48 PM
you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else

we are all a part of the same compost heap...

we are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world

you are not your bank account, you are not the clothes you wear, you are not the contents of your wallet, you are not your bowel cancer, you are not your grande latte... you are not the car you drive... you are not your fucking khaki's...

you have to give up... you have to give up...

you have to realise that someday you will die...

Johnny Groove
03-22-2012, 01:38 AM
Surely, yes, one day we will all die, that is inevitable.

But must we live in stress, fear, and uneasiness all of our lives because of it? Doesn't a finite life span give us more motivation to go out and make the most of what we got?

Sham Kay
03-22-2012, 03:45 AM
And don't put any 'bull' in your posts.

Now you're just fantasising mate

paukay
03-22-2012, 04:02 AM
There isn't one.

But since you're here, might as well make the best of it. It'll be over before long anyway - we're a brief insignificant blip on one planet in a vast, turbulent universe, shining brightly and then winking out. You're a long time dead, so live well, have fun, be nice to people.

nice one! :worship:

Sofonda Cox
03-22-2012, 07:50 AM
This is the reality, although people will make posts full of hope and cheeriness. Life's a bitch and it's how you accept and adjust to this that matters. We're living in a world with evil all around us. There are positive moments, there are rays of sunshine, you have to keep going to see and hope those days come again. I question sometimes if it's even worth it, to go through the struggles, to read the countless stories of horrific behavior I didn't think was possible from my fellow man. The world is really total bullshit. Genuinely kind, sensitive hearted individuals aren't cut out for it, we're too good for this.

Pretty much :sad: Although lots of people on mtf might disagree I'm one of them :tape: :secret:



Life does not seem like a 'gift' at the moment, more of an unfortunate curse.

star
03-22-2012, 03:01 PM
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fast_clay
03-23-2012, 12:09 AM
Surely, yes, one day we will all die, that is inevitable.

But must we live in stress, fear, and uneasiness all of our lives because of it? Doesn't a finite life span give us more motivation to go out and make the most of what we got?

yeah i've just been reciting some high level poetry in this thread so far...

tWbr-bzCprU

outside of that, i actually think gataire has been the most correct answer so far...

EliSter
03-23-2012, 08:21 PM
Please enlighten me.

Get born, reproduce, die...everything in between is just bonus.

Filo V.
03-23-2012, 08:27 PM
Pretty much :sad: Although lots of people on mtf might disagree I'm one of them :tape: :secret:That's because they are evil, and that's what evil people do. Evil intentionally separates you from truth, separates you from good. You can't let that happen to you, not saying you're evil but that the negative vibes, that's apart of the entire evil spirit. You gotta break through it and overcome it. Why? I really don't even fuckin' know. I do it because I guess I see enough good days and happiness to keep me going. I wish I could give you a hug right now and make you feel better :hug:

Life does not seem like a 'gift' at the moment, more of an unfortunate curse.Life isn't a gift...........but it's not a curse, either. Life just is. It doesn't have a meaning. It's all about what you make of it.

Sunset of Age
03-23-2012, 10:44 PM
There is no point in 'living'. There is no point in 'dying' either.
Homo sapiens sapiens, as far as is known in scientific circles, is the only animal species even aware of themselves being mortal. :)

You get some 70-80 years to enjoy this shitty little planet (if you're LUCKY! :o), well then, make the most out of that time! - trying to avoid doing any damage to others who are about to do the same thing, hopefully avoiding damage to others themselves included. ;)

Sunset of Age
03-23-2012, 10:48 PM
Get born, reproduce, die...everything in between is just bonus.

Slight correction. That's the part of it that you have in your own hands gonads. :p

leng jai
03-23-2012, 11:26 PM
This thread has come at an appropriate time.

tripwires
03-24-2012, 02:54 PM
you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else

we are all a part of the same compost heap...

we are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world

you are not your bank account, you are not the clothes you wear, you are not the contents of your wallet, you are not your bowel cancer, you are not your grande latte... you are not the car you drive... you are not your fucking khaki's...

you have to give up... you have to give up...

you have to realise that someday you will die...

Fight Club?

The only novel by Palahniuk that's worth reading.

ssin
03-27-2012, 11:45 AM
Pretty much :sad: Although lots of people on mtf might disagree I'm one of them :tape: :secret:



Life does not seem like a 'gift' at the moment, more of an unfortunate curse.

I believe that you are indeed sensitive, otherwise you wouldn't have attacked me earlier for a harmless joke ;)

the beauty of life and suffering are inseparable, suffering makes us appreciate good moments and life itself. Without that we would be trunks without feelings, wouldn't have points of reference, and it would in turn make life insipid.

According to some researches, paralyzed people, tied to their wheelchairs are on average happier than the general population. It sounds like a paradox, but it's not. If you have the capacity to truly suffer, (and I don't mean like suffering because you are hungry or thirsty) it makes you a great and worthy human being.

Hope this helps, now lift your butt from that chair, get out, and enjoy this wonderful life.;)

Vida
03-27-2012, 04:16 PM
this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WUpsErUBA&ob=av3e

BodyServe
03-27-2012, 09:23 PM
According to some researches, paralyzed people, tied to their wheelchairs are on average happier than the general population. It sounds like a paradox, but it's not. If you have the capacity to truly suffer, (and I don't mean like suffering because you are hungry or thirsty) it makes you a great and worthy human being.

Hope this helps, now lift your butt from that chair, get out, and enjoy this wonderful life.;)

This is the best bit i have read in this thread, really. Makes you realise that people around you can't suffer. And it is no surprise that the most stupid are the spoiled ones.

Your example is very telling and doesn't really surprise me.

Caesar1844
03-30-2012, 11:19 PM
It beats the alternative.

I believe that yes, there is a God.
I always knew you were intellectually handicapped.

Allez
04-03-2012, 11:07 PM
Why so many sad sad people on MTF :lol:

I believe that if you consciously make the pursuit of happiness your life's purpose always bearing in mind that your focus determines your reality, the moments you have to wonder why you exist will start to disappear...

If you pay too much attention to apparently bad things happening to others and using that to conclude that life is terrible, then that will be the reality of the situation for you...

So be wise...spend your energy on things that are in alignment with your purpose of finding happiness and expansion of thought and experience...

GOAT = Fed
04-04-2012, 03:06 PM
The point of living is to become like this guy:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_opkI5kI1V_M/TUqFFQkxn9I/AAAAAAAAAEw/VsFDvpNwT1s/s1600/zyzz+perfect+aesthetics.jpg

[not srs]



[very srs]