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Safin def. Nalbandian 6-2, 6-4, 6-3 to win TMS Madrid!

Billabong
10-24-2004, 04:03 PM
Congrats Marat:banana:!

landoud
10-24-2004, 04:05 PM
congratulations safin...i wished nalby win but marat deserved it

User ID 4783
10-24-2004, 04:05 PM
:woohoo: is he still an OAF now? ;) well done anyway

maratski
10-24-2004, 04:06 PM
:woohoo: is he still an OAF now? ;) well done anyway

Once an OAF always an OAF ;)

Well done Marat :kiss:

Billabong
10-24-2004, 04:06 PM
Marat is very good indoors:D! Remember TMS Paris 2002;)!

TheBoiledEgg
10-24-2004, 04:07 PM
that was simply brilliant :worship:
if only he can play like this or close to that most of time

he'd be #1

Marat :) :D :)

tennischick
10-24-2004, 04:08 PM
Sexy Oaf :banana:

hey David, a little effort would have been nice :mad:

User ID 4783
10-24-2004, 04:08 PM
Marat is very good indoors:D! Remember TMS Paris 2002;)!
and Paris is yet to come :rolleyes: :)

TheBoiledEgg
10-24-2004, 04:08 PM
ever since i changed my sig, Marat's result have picked up 100% :lol:

might keep it :tape: well until he wins another slam

Bilbo
10-24-2004, 04:08 PM
well done OAF :yeah:

Buddy
10-24-2004, 04:10 PM
Great job Marat!!! :) Glad to see so many people sharing joy with me today!!! :bounce:

maratski
10-24-2004, 04:10 PM
Marat is very good indoors:D! Remember TMS Paris 2002;)!

And the 5 setter against Mark P in 2000 ;)

Billabong
10-24-2004, 04:12 PM
And the 5 setter against Mark P in 2000 ;)

7-6 in the 5th set;)! I remember watching it;)!

ataptc
10-24-2004, 04:12 PM
:bounce: now i cant wait to watch the delayed coverage on tv!! :D

maratski
10-24-2004, 04:13 PM
7-6 in the 5th set;)! I remember watching it;)!

Me too. I was soooo worried when Marat hit himself with his racket.

amethyst
10-24-2004, 04:15 PM
Congrats Marat :banana: Now if you could do this more than once or twice a year, you would make many people happy here ;)

PennyThePenguin
10-24-2004, 04:15 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Bubble
10-24-2004, 04:15 PM
that was simply brilliant :worship:
if only he can play like this or close to that most of time

he'd be #1

Marat :) :D :)

Exactly, he is too stingy with showing this brilliant side only on few occasions... Most of the time he is still an OAF.

Well , let's forget about his oafish moments and just celebrate today !

Cheers everyone and esp. to Marat's fans :) :aparty:

TheBoiledEgg
10-24-2004, 04:15 PM
Marat doing his speech in Spanish

thanking everyone :lol:

Bubble
10-24-2004, 04:17 PM
:bounce: now i cant wait to watch the delayed coverage on tv!! :D


Me too :o :mad: :D why are we getting delayed coverage in the first place ? damn football

RPH
10-24-2004, 04:17 PM
Well Done Marat :) :D

Only Federer could cope with him when he's in that sort of form IMO Leif Shiras said only he and Roddick ( :o :tape: ) could challenge Federer currently

When Marat wants to play he's almost unbeatable :worship: pity it only happens in about 5 tournaments a year :rolleyes:

David though needs to take a look at himself - another big match he fails to arrive in. People go on about how Marat's mental game never allowed him to show off his talent but I think it's the same for David in different terms

His serve and overall fitness just are too big a weakness ATM

User ID 4783
10-24-2004, 04:17 PM
:bounce: now i cant wait to watch the delayed coverage on tv!! :D
I'll get to see it tomorrow :mad:

maratski
10-24-2004, 04:17 PM
Rankings update someone?

maratski
10-24-2004, 04:18 PM
I'll get to see it tomorrow :mad:

When will DSF show it?

Bubble
10-24-2004, 04:18 PM
Me too. I was soooo worried when Marat hit himself with his racket.


Yeah, that was another memorable match :p . what a freak accident that was.

Bubble
10-24-2004, 04:19 PM
Marat doing his speech in Spanish

thanking everyone :lol:


Or is he specifically thanking the ball-models? ;) :p

PennyThePenguin
10-24-2004, 04:20 PM
Me too :o :mad: :D why are we getting delayed coverage in the first place ? damn football

tell me about it.....grrrrr...i hope they show the prize presentation too tmr.

jazz_girl
10-24-2004, 04:20 PM
Congratulations Marat! :worship:
He was amazing today, and didn't give David a chance!
The speech was amazing!!! He said: David, I'm sorry it was your day" Then he thanksed the ball girls for doing a great job! LOL!!!! And to the judges: IF it wan't for you, I wouldn't have one a single point" He's hilarious!
I hope David's toe gets better soon, cause he's playing better and he doesn't need another injury.

User ID 4783
10-24-2004, 04:20 PM
When will DSF show it?
2pm I think

jazz_girl
10-24-2004, 04:21 PM
Or is he specifically thanking the ball-models? ;) :p
He did! :haha:

Mrs. B
10-24-2004, 04:21 PM
Congrats, Marat!!! and congrats to his fans. :)

well done too, David. i want to see you in the finals in Basel, against Roger. and the local boy winning it. :lol:

Space Cowgirl
10-24-2004, 04:21 PM
When will DSF show it?


DSF is showing it at 2pm. Premiere is showing it tonight, for anyone with satellite (and a subscription)

Dux
10-24-2004, 04:21 PM
Congrats Marat! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Canuck_Chick
10-24-2004, 04:22 PM
well done marat!!! :yeah:

CassL
10-24-2004, 04:25 PM
I really hope the one hour recap on ESPN shows something.

TheBoiledEgg
10-24-2004, 04:26 PM
He did! :haha:

he got them to smile :lol:
the whole crowd was laughing too

Lady
10-24-2004, 04:26 PM
:crazy: :aparty: :banana: :woohoo:

RogiFan88
10-24-2004, 04:27 PM
I w love to see Marat's speech in Spanish!! COngrats, Marat! Fantastic!! Yep, Billabong, Marat's good indoors, won TMS Paris twice!! He's on his way to Houston, right?

Bubble
10-24-2004, 04:29 PM
he got them to smile :lol:
the whole crowd was laughing too


that 's our OAF, never fail to charm the ladies... ;)

crimson
10-24-2004, 04:35 PM
Well done Marat! :) Although I would have loved to see David win, I'm happy for Marat too. And it's great to see them both back and playing in big finals again. :yeah: Hopefully it's just a matter of time before David wins a TMS too.

Alvarillo
10-24-2004, 04:37 PM
A Former World Nº1 wins for third consecutive year in Madrid after Agassi in 2002 and Ferrero last year, also for third consecutive year more than 100.000 people have visited the torunament, the most visited TMS in Europe and the third tournament with more assistance only after RG and Wimbledon!!!

Congrats Marat!
And poor Nalbandián, another defeat in a big final after Wimby 2001 and TMS Toronto, Roma and now Madrid ... and without winning a set in these finals.....

CoriaFan4ever
10-24-2004, 04:40 PM
Sexy Oaf :banana:

hey David, a little effort would have been nice :mad:
i love those ppl sitting behind their computers judging players having no clue what pain david must have gone through playing with a broke toe :mad:

Red~Ruby
10-24-2004, 04:40 PM
My Biggest Congratulations to Marat!!!!! What a happy day! :) Too Bad for Nalbandian though, but his day will come soon for sure!

Marat was really playing a very high level of tennis all week esp. against Agassi!!!

Nobody can out do this guy in charisma, he is amazing!!!!! Nalbandian was even looking at him in awe!

And we all thought he was the MOST one that would not be able to concentrate with the girls around! lol, he proved us wrong!

Great Job Marat!! And great achievment for Peter Lungdren!

Neely
10-24-2004, 04:42 PM
well done, Marat! :eek: :clap2:
now I'm curious how long this great form will go on....

Nalbandian also did very well. His final appearance was rather unexpected for me.

mitalidas
10-24-2004, 04:43 PM
Alright, I'm beginning to hope/wonder that Roger and Marat can start the long-awaited Rivalry next year. It will keep things interesting! Great job HIPPO!

star
10-24-2004, 04:45 PM
:bigclap: for Marat!

:yippee: for all his fans. :)

yanchr
10-24-2004, 04:53 PM
Congrats Marat! He should stay in this form until the end of the year to add some fun to the TMC.

Pooooooor David, have to wait for the next time to claim a really big one....so poooooor...hope the day will come asap. and hope he is healthy enough to go to Basel

jazz_girl
10-24-2004, 04:58 PM
Marat's speech:
“Felicidades David por la final, lo siento, no ha sido tu día. Suerte en los próximos dos torneos para que puedas llegar al Masters”. Además, le agradeció a “al público y a las recogepelotas, que hicieron muy bien el trabajo, y a los jueces de línea: sin ellos no hubiera ganado ningún punto”.
"Congratulations to David, for reaching the final. I'm sorry, it wasn't your day. Good luck in the next tournaments so you can reach the Masters :) :kiss: . Besides, he thanked to "the public and to the ball-girls, that did a really good job, and to the line judges, without them I wouldn't have one a single point"

Roland
10-24-2004, 05:01 PM
I wonder if Lundgren is finally making progress with Marat.

loeliepoelie
10-24-2004, 05:05 PM
@jazzgirl, he didn't thank Peter???

crimson
10-24-2004, 05:05 PM
Marat's speech:
“Felicidades David por la final, lo siento, no ha sido tu día. Suerte en los próximos dos torneos para que puedas llegar al Masters”. Además, le agradeció a “al público y a las recogepelotas, que hicieron muy bien el trabajo, y a los jueces de línea: sin ellos no hubiera ganado ningún punto”.
"Congratulations to David, for reaching the final. I'm sorry, it wasn't your day. Good luck in the next tournaments so you can reach the Masters :) :kiss: . Besides, he thanked to "the public and to the ball-girls, that did a really good job, and to the line judges, without them I wouldn't have one a single point"

Thanks for the translation jazz girl :) Nice speech from Marat and I'm glad he also wished David luck for his next tournaments. :)

name_change
10-24-2004, 05:08 PM
dammit david!you're so marat's bitch!:mad:

its ok, u'll win a slam soon. just keep improving..

marat, u're hot so u're forgiven.

|-Safin_Coria-|
10-24-2004, 05:08 PM
GREAT JOB MARAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M SO HAPPY :woohoo:

Mrs. B
10-24-2004, 05:13 PM
i love those ppl sitting behind their computers judging players having no clue what pain david must have gone through playing with a broke toe :mad:

David's got a broken toe? Will he be able to play Basel with this injury? :sad:
Please get well soon, Nalby. I want to see you in Basel!

Sjengster
10-24-2004, 05:16 PM
Nalbandian has to be worried that he's starting to become a punch-bag in major finals - I mean, what is Infantino telling him before all these title matches? To go out there and try to start well for a change, ie not take six games to hold serve? It's true that a lot of his unforced errors today were really forced out of him by having to go for the lines as Safin was playing so well, but he also let himself down with needless mistakes on big points and a complete inability to get cheap service points. It's hardly a world-beater anyway, the least he could do was get more than 50% first serves in and at least set up some short balls to put away for winners - as it was, he had to work for every point from the back of the court while Safin cruised on serve. He seems to suffer from doing well on every surface but then running into one player who's better than him on that surface: Hewitt on grass, Roddick on outdoor hard, Moya on clay, Safin on indoor hard.

There's nothing more you can say about Safin, though, the Lundgren magic is obviously working again. Indoors is definitely one of if not the best surface for his game, he's evidently comfortable with Nalbandian's style of play and very rarely did his focus waver today. It's interesting that the commentators all suggested this was the kind of performance that will make him the biggest challenge to Federer's dominance (and his one win over Federer is on indoor carpet); obviously Federer has a better offence than Nalbandian but having his former coach in Safin's corner is certainly an advantage for the Russian. I'd forgotten about his upbringing in Spain until I heard that very eloquent speech in Spanish afterwards - it rolled off the tongue, he made Nalbandian smile and the crowd laugh, which is quite a turn-around given that they weren't the biggest fan of his behaviour during the week.

What was it alfonso predicted about the winner this week, bearing in mind the presence of the models? Oh yes, that they'd have to be either gay or married. Hmm...

Jennay
10-24-2004, 05:16 PM
Congrats to Marat and his fans :smooch:

Too bad for David though, I would've loved to see him win.

Domino
10-24-2004, 05:23 PM
What was it alfonso predicted about the winner this week, bearing in mind the presence of the models? Oh yes, that they'd have to be either gay or married. Hmm...

I think that it is without a doubt that Marat is neither. I guess Safin just plays better when he's trying to show off to a woman.

Havok
10-24-2004, 05:32 PM
:banana: ALLEZ SAFIN:banana:
can't wait to see this at 11:30 at night, it'll be good to watch it before I fall asleep.:zzz: This is his 3rd TMS event?

Sjengster
10-24-2004, 05:37 PM
4th. Someone will have posted that already by the time I do, but he's now tied with Federer and Ferrero for four TMS wins (and both he and Ferrero have won this title, of course). Nalbandian has meanwhile almost completed the Masters Series sweep of losing finals in different parts of the calendar - one more at either IW or Miami and he's there. Hopefully he can then start winning them instead.

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 05:38 PM
4th

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 05:39 PM
and Marat is so gay!

merle
10-24-2004, 05:45 PM
well done, Marat! :eek: :clap2:
now I'm curious how long this great form will go on....


I wonder it too Neely! I hope this great form will go on for a veeeeeeeeeeery long time. Like next year too maybe! :angel: At least so that he can give some competition to JesusFed! :bigclap: :kiss:

Red~Ruby
10-24-2004, 05:48 PM
@jazzgirl, he didn't thank Peter???


He did, and he thanked his Phsyio too and his friends. And a group of Russian supporters that travelled there to watch.

He is surely a crowd pleaser, they were laughing so much.

I'm sure Safin couldn't have love anything more than holding up the trophy in front of 25 beautiful girls? lol. :)

You just gotta love him!

Jessi
10-24-2004, 05:49 PM
and Marat is so gay!


HATER!

Jessi
10-24-2004, 05:50 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :banana: :banana: :woohoo:

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 05:52 PM
HATER!

I'm a LOVER!

maratski
10-24-2004, 06:00 PM
I'm a LOVER!

Take his word for it Jessi. ;)

Aleksa's Laydee
10-24-2004, 06:18 PM
Well Done marat :D

:sad: David

Yonge
10-24-2004, 06:23 PM
:worship: Marat!

I expected more from David but oh well.

superpinkone37
10-24-2004, 06:25 PM
Congratulations Marat!! :woohoo:

Tennis Fool
10-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Marat Safin-2004 Madrid Masters Champion
http://www.atptennis.com/shared/photos/180X250/safin_madrid6.jpg
http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/JJ114102413_lower.jpg

User ID 4783
10-24-2004, 06:29 PM
Marat must have enjoyed this moment

Lucie
10-24-2004, 06:33 PM
congratulations marat! :D

TaTaaa
10-24-2004, 06:39 PM
I'm so sooooooo happy for Marat!!!! =))))) :bounce:


Marat rocks!!!! :rocker: :clap2:

novanora
10-24-2004, 06:55 PM
David's got a broken toe? Will he be able to play Basel with this injury? :sad:
Please get well soon, Nalby. I want to see you in Basel!
i don't know, Mrs.B. david got this toe broken by kicking his foot to the net stands when playing with srichaphan :mad: he is a little bit slow in the movement today, and his serving....eh.....:smash: so, for Basel, will wait to see. but how can he meet your local boy with that sucking toe? :retard:

congrats to Hippo, he played a great tournament this week :) and thanks for that sweet award ceremony speech!

Denise
10-24-2004, 06:55 PM
CONGRATS MARATIK! You're the best!!! you deserved this amazing title!!!! :worship: :clap2:

Denise
10-24-2004, 07:01 PM
and Marat is so gay!

What?! Well, let's go with me to bed and also marat to prove who is the man ;)

Jorge
10-24-2004, 07:05 PM
well done Marat :yeah: h2h: 5-1 over Nalbandián :cool:

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 07:14 PM
What?! Well, let's go with me to bed and also marat to prove who is the man ;)

why would I want to go to bed with any of you?

vaiva
10-24-2004, 07:18 PM
Go with me. I'm hot!

Congrats Maratski! :hearts:

-sOfia-
10-24-2004, 07:25 PM
Marat :hearts:

Crazy_Fool
10-24-2004, 07:26 PM
Wow is all i can say about Marat today, congrats :D Keep up the good work :worship:

Denise
10-24-2004, 07:41 PM
why would I want to go to bed with any of you?

duhhh..:o in fact i don't wanna go to bed with you. I just "invited" you for a three some with marat cause you said he is gay!! and he's not!!! and then i can prove that you're gay, asshole!! :(

TheBoiledEgg
10-24-2004, 07:53 PM
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RonE
10-24-2004, 07:58 PM
AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! I can't believe it! I was out of the house and programmed the VCR to tape the match, but instead the VCR just chewed up the tape :mad: :mad: :mad:

Anyway, congrats to Marat, though I didn't see the match (and probably never will, thank you you worthless pile of scrap :fiery: ) I gather he played quite astounding tennis. Things are definitely looking up now for Houston considering he has no points to defend in Paris :D

Denise
10-24-2004, 08:00 PM
thanks theboiledegg for the links ;)

Denise
10-24-2004, 08:03 PM
Go with me. I'm hot!

Congrats Maratski! :hearts:

:haha:

congrats marat!!!! love youuuu!!! :hearts:

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 08:07 PM
Go with me. I'm hot!

Congrats Maratski! :hearts:


Kitchen table? Neighbours' pool? With you anywhere!

Denise
10-24-2004, 08:07 PM
AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! I can't believe it! I was out of the house and programmed the VCR to tape the match, but instead the VCR just chewed up the tape :mad: :mad: :mad:

Anyway, congrats to Marat, though I didn't see the match (and probably never will, thank you you worthless pile of scrap :fiery: ) I gather he played quite astounding tennis. Things are definitely looking up now for Houston considering he has no points to defend in Paris :D

I taped the match... not all the match dammit, but the greatest part i taped, marat speakin' in spanish, so sexy!!! so cuttie...and he congrating the models for their job on court?! so funny ;) i think marat its now very close to enjoy masters cup!!! he will be there!!!! :p

Crazy_Fool
10-24-2004, 08:11 PM
Well RonE, I'm taking it you're from the UK - there are highlights on at 1.30am, on SkySports3 i think, maybe you can tape it then, if you really wanna watch some of it ;)

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 08:13 PM
duhhh..:o in fact i don't wanna go to bed with you. I just "invited" you for a three some with marat cause you said he is gay!! and he's not!!! and then i can prove that you're gay, asshole!! :(

First of all...Oh no, not the asshole!

Secondly, I don't do threesomes.

And thirdly,where has the logic gone?

Denise
10-24-2004, 08:34 PM
First of all...Oh no, not the asshole!
Secondly, I don't do threesomes.
And thirdly,where has the logic gone?

ok, as you don't have a brain, i'm ending up this subject!! :o

Billabong
10-24-2004, 08:45 PM
*still thrilled about Marat's victory*:p :woohoo:!

Paulatina
10-24-2004, 08:49 PM
I kinda predicted Marat would win after his match with Agassi. Congrats Marat! And well done David on getting to the final, you deserve it. :)

RonE
10-24-2004, 08:49 PM
Well RonE, I'm taking it you're from the UK - there are highlights on at 1.30am, on SkySports3 i think, maybe you can tape it then, if you really wanna watch some of it ;)

Thats the problem. I am not from the UK, and I dont have SkySports. ESPN showed it live and they don't show replays, so I wanted to tape it. Oh well, life goes on :)

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 09:17 PM
ok, as you don't have a brain, i'm ending up this subject!! :o


Which is good. You've started it,so you should be able to end it. We'll never know why you started it in the first place, but it's ok and Fatty will give you a cookie!

Denise
10-24-2004, 09:31 PM
Which is good. You've started it,so you should be able to end it. We'll never know why you started it in the first place, but it's ok and Fatty will give you a cookie!

Ok, let's forget it! ;) guess i've started cause u called marat as 'gay' which pissed me off! lol

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 09:35 PM
Ok, let's forget it! ;) guess i've started cause u called marat as 'gay' which pissed me off! lol


But why would you care if he's gay,bi or straight?

the cat
10-24-2004, 09:43 PM
It's nice to see Marat playing some top level tennis to end the year. :) And winning Madrid proves he's back on the right track.

And Vaiva is an animal! :cat: :yeah: :hug: :smooch: ;)

Denise
10-24-2004, 09:50 PM
But why would you care if he's gay,bi or straight?

i care, and i was defending him cause he isnt' :o

Chloe le Bopper
10-24-2004, 09:53 PM
Which is good. You've started it,so you should be able to end it. We'll never know why you started it in the first place, but it's ok and Fatty will give you a cookie!
Here I am!

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 10:27 PM
It's nice to see Marat playing some top level tennis to end the year. :) And winning Madrid proves he's back on the right track.

And Vaiva is an animal! :cat: :yeah: :hug: :smooch: ;)

Yes,most probably an elephant.

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 10:28 PM
i care, and i was defending him cause he isnt' :o

the question was why? Don't you have real life? Real friends? Real problems?

And how do you knwo he isn't?

Riley Finn
10-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Here I am!


It's about time! One star cookie for the friend of heya!

star
10-24-2004, 10:32 PM
I didn't realize Nalbandian was so much shorter than Marat.

*J*
10-24-2004, 10:39 PM
Congrats Marat! :D :D

Domino
10-24-2004, 10:40 PM
Thats the problem. I am not from the UK, and I dont have SkySports. ESPN showed it live and they don't show replays, so I wanted to tape it. Oh well, life goes on :)

What? ESPN showed it live!

GermanBoy
10-24-2004, 11:24 PM
What will his new ranking be tomorrow? :confused:

tennischick
10-24-2004, 11:58 PM
i love those ppl sitting behind their computers judging players having no clue what pain david must have gone through playing with a broke toe :mad:
listen punk, i am a serious Argie/David fan so don't even mess with me. his toe has nothing to with why Marat spanked him. strategically he was just OFF. and it was clear that Peter Lundgren had prepared Marat for every single one of David's tricks -- and David didn't have a Plan B to fall back on.

for the record, i wasn't watching the scoreboad; i was watching the MATCH :mad:

lunahielo
10-25-2004, 12:22 AM
:)

Jogg
10-25-2004, 01:18 AM
:yeah: :bigclap: well done Marat

and it was clear that Peter Lundgren had prepared Marat for every single one of David's tricks :

umm thats kind of his job :D it didn't look to me like Nalbandian was as well prepared but maybe he was just having an off day

lizabeth..*
10-25-2004, 02:04 AM
:woohoo: Marat!!

drf716
10-25-2004, 02:08 AM
congratulations marat!!!!
i think he has what it takes to beat any top player the way he's playing now.

tennischick
10-25-2004, 03:07 AM
:yeah: :bigclap: well done Marat



umm thats kind of his job :D it didn't look to me like Nalbandian was as well prepared but maybe he was just having an off day

duh...i know this. but Marat has had excellent coaches in the past but wasn't ready to learn from them. let's hope that Peter's the right guy. can't wait for the Marat-Federer rivalry! :cool:

RogiFan88
10-25-2004, 03:13 AM
the REAL rivalry... Rogi/Marat... PL said if Marat played Rogi like he played AA, he w win!

RogiFan88
10-25-2004, 03:21 AM
4th. Someone will have posted that already by the time I do, but he's now tied with Federer and Ferrero for four TMS wins (and both he and Ferrero have won this title, of course). Nalbandian has meanwhile almost completed the Masters Series sweep of losing finals in different parts of the calendar - one more at either IW or Miami and he's there. Hopefully he can then start winning them instead.

Sjengst, don't tell me how eloquent Marat's Spanish was in the speech as we will get a truncated coverage overnight, which will NOT incl. the ceremony... last yr it was live and we still didn't get the ceremony... when Juanqui d Guille in MC last yr it was also live w part of ceremony... if only Guille hadn't gone on and on and on... cutting off Juanqui's victory speech... :rolleyes: and we NEVER got either of Rogi's 2 Hamburg ceremonies... I give up! Yes, Marat is v fluent in Spanish -- he's a real talent, like Rogi.

Can't wait for the true rivalry!

RogiFan88
10-25-2004, 03:29 AM
How cool that my 3 faves all won 4 TMSes!!!

li'l red
10-25-2004, 03:35 AM
congrats marat! :woohoo:

Havok
10-25-2004, 03:50 AM
Safin/Federer rivalry. :lol:

tennischick
10-25-2004, 04:09 AM
Safin/Federer rivalry. :lol:
no-one's defining a present tense, real time rivalry -- just one that we're hoping for. sorry if that concept is too advanced to be accomodated by your piddling little brain twerp.

then again you ARE accustomed to the real-time rivalries of Federer vs Duckboy or Agassi vs the DuckFuck. shall i remind you of the stats? just say the word baby. :devil:

Vass
10-25-2004, 04:16 AM
Safin/Federer rivalry. :lol:
Marat can hardly hold this high level for long. I'd say that he might not lose to any low ranked players, but wouldn't play his best all the time either... He might win 1 of 3 Matches with Federer... I.e. I'm not laughing, because it's sad, but I agree.

Havok
10-25-2004, 04:20 AM
I never really said that a Andy had a rivalry with fed or andre so :retard: That is the media, and last time I checked, I'm not part of them.

Havok
10-25-2004, 04:21 AM
no-one's defining a present tense, real time rivalry -- just one that we're hoping for. sorry if that concept is too advanced to be accomodated by your piddling little brain twerp.

then again you ARE accustomed to the real-time rivalries of Federer vs Duckboy or Agassi vs the DuckFuck. shall i remind you of the stats? just say the word baby. :devil:
and what's up with the name calling. What are we 9?

Havok
10-25-2004, 04:24 AM
Marat can hardly hold this high level for long. I'd say that he might not lose to any low ranked players, but wouldn't play his best all the time either... He might win 1 of 3 Matches with Federer... I.e. I'm not laughing, because it's sad, but I agree.
Which is exactly why I laughed at the fact that the word rivalry was tagged with these two players. Though it would be awesome if one did arise because I think those matches would be awesome to watch.:cool:

tennischick
10-25-2004, 04:25 AM
and what's up with the name calling. What are we 9?
mentally you clearly are. :rolleyes:

and like i said, i look FORWARD (as in the FUTURE dumb-ass) to a Federer-Safin rivalry. in the meantime, Fed can continue spanking the ass off the Duck. :angel: :wavey:

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-25-2004, 04:27 AM
Great performance from Marat in the final and the speech was top notch as well. There was a brief lapse in the second set from Marat, but David was not good enough on the day to take advantage of it and win the second set, as he needed to make this a contest.

Marat the big Russian bear is very dangerous indoors and he is coming to Houston, and big Jim please try and disrespect Marat and see what happens.

Havok
10-25-2004, 04:37 AM
mentally you clearly are. :rolleyes:

and like i said, i look FORWARD (as in the FUTURE dumb-ass) to a Federer-Safin rivalry. in the meantime, Fed can continue spanking the ass off the Duck. :angel: :wavey:
I know you said you look forward to one *refrains from name calling* but I don't think one will arise because of the reasons Vass22 has given, which is why I sort of laughed at rivaly and Federer/Safin being close together. And while you're at it, you can laugh at Federer pretty much spanking everyone on tour since he's untouchable really this year.:)

tennischick
10-25-2004, 04:46 AM
...And while you're at it, you can laugh at Federer pretty much spanking everyone on tour since he's untouchable really this year.:)
which is why i look forward to the possibility of a Federer-Safin rivalry. let's face it, when the #1 player has over one thousand points and the #2 is hovering around 600, you kinda wish for new opponents to step up to the plate. hence my wish for a Federer-Safin rivalry.

hey Duckfan, have i spelled this out enuf or do you need me to repeat it for a fifth fucking time?

Chloe le Bopper
10-25-2004, 04:58 AM
Sjengst, don't tell me how eloquent Marat's Spanish was in the speech as we will get a truncated coverage overnight, which will NOT incl. the ceremony... last yr it was live and we still didn't get the ceremony... when Juanqui d Guille in MC last yr it was also live w part of ceremony... if only Guille hadn't gone on and on and on... cutting off Juanqui's victory speech... :rolleyes: and we NEVER got either of Rogi's 2 Hamburg ceremonies... I give up! Yes, Marat is v fluent in Spanish -- he's a real talent, like Rogi.

Can't wait for the true rivalry!
Ferrero didn't have much to say anyways.

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 05:02 AM
Ferrero didn't have much to say anyways.

That's in any language.

tennischick
10-25-2004, 05:06 AM
i had forgotten that Safin used to live in Spain until i heard him rattling off in Spanish. i would love to be that fluent!

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 05:17 AM
Safin played very well and only had a minor hitch in the 2nd set, but David wasn't good enough to take advantage of it and managed to lose 5 of the last 6 games to lose the 2nd set. Seriously David needs to have a good look at himself mentally, and he does get very tight in finals.

For one having a broken toe doesn't help at all, but David making 40 UEs and only 12 winners and having a 1st serve percentage under 50% with his serve is just crap and the score emphasised that very clearly.

It could be time for some yoga or meditation exercises to relax David's mind, but Marat indoors is a tough beast, and I look forward to seeing him in Paris and Houston.

Chloe le Bopper
10-25-2004, 05:26 AM
That's in any language.
Ha!

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 05:32 AM
Ha!

Even when he isn't under pression.

lsy
10-25-2004, 05:38 AM
Sounds like an awful performance for David, considering he was actually playing pretty well prior to this. Can't wait to watch it later on to see how bad was he playing and how good was Safin.

And of course now PL is the hero, I recall not long ago when many were suggesting that PL has done nothing for Safin and he should fire him. Expect tunes to change dramatically now ;) Good to see that these 2 are working so well together and that should stop nonsense about PL's reputation as a coach (i.e. for the moment till Safin loses his next match of course ;) )

I know many prefer a Safin/Rogi rivalry than Andy/Rogi, but isn't Safin record vs Rogi just as bad? Though with PL in his camp now, things might just change very quickly.

For me, I still prefer a David/Rogi rivalry, I r'ber luck did play a part for his win vs David in AO early this year and I feel like among most on tour now, David probably will be the one who's least intimidated by Rogi.

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 05:43 AM
And of course now PL is the hero, I recall not long ago when many were suggesting that PL has done nothing for Safin and he should fire him. Expect tunes to change dramatically now ;) Good to see that these 2 are working so well together and that should stop nonsense about PL's reputation as a coach (i.e. for the moment till Safin loses his next match of course ;) )

Well you know what some people are like. I know what a good guy and coach Lundgren is, and I remember my joy when Marat hired him. As long as Marat is prepared to listen to him tactically then it can be very successful, and yes the next bad loss he has, then some of the fans will want his head on a platter, there is no pleasing some people.

lsy
10-25-2004, 05:55 AM
Well you know what some people are like. I know what a good guy and coach Lundgren is, and I remember my joy when Marat hired him. As long as Marat is prepared to listen to him tactically then it can be very successful, and yes the next bad loss he has, then some of the fans will want his head on a platter, there is no pleasing some people.

True. There's always easy conclusions to draw ;)

Considering that Rogi has kept mentioning PL being a good coach for him, and for Safin to make comments such as he needs to calm down, throwing temper is waste of energy, also how PL has really helped him so far, I think there's little doubt that PL is a great coach.

I just thought it has been unfair to PL that many were ready to dismiss him seeing that Rogi had done better without him, not remembering that it's also the foundation his previous coaches had layed out for him with current success.

I still don't understand why David had once again failed in the final, and almost look like a pretty disastrous performance.

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 06:04 AM
Considering that Rogi has kept mentioning PL being a good coach for him, and for Safin to make comments such as he needs to calm down, throwing temper is waste of energy, also how PL has really helped him so far, I think there's little doubt that PL is a great coach.


Safin was very relaxed and calm throughout the tournament, and it showed very clearly in the recent results, it's going to take time, but too many people expect instant success.

I just thought it has been unfair to PL that many were ready to dismiss him seeing that Rogi had done better without him, not remembering that it's also the foundation his previous coaches had layed out for him with current success.

Ok, when these clowns were trying to dismiss Lundgren as a coach, here it is in plain English. He took Rios into the top 10 from a long way out, he took over Federer when he was in the 50s to # 2 and finished off the initial work from Peter Carter. He knows how to handle very talented players.

I still don't understand why David had once again failed in the final, and almost look like a pretty disastrous performance.

You didn't read my previous posts then. :) Ok, he didn't serve well enough, made too many unforced errors, couldn't change his plan of attack, when he couldn't get the ball into play. He had a problem with his toe, but nevertheless he wasn't good enough and Marat played very well and when he plays very well, not many are going to beat him.

The mind exercises are something he needs to consider.

lsy
10-25-2004, 06:16 AM
You didn't read my previous posts then. :) Ok, he didn't serve well enough, made too many unforced errors, couldn't change his plan of attack, when he couldn't get the ball into play. He had a problem with his toe, but nevertheless he wasn't good enough and Marat played very well and when he plays very well, not many are going to beat him.

The mind exercises are something he needs to consider.

I did read your post ;) yes yes...I know he didn't serve well, UEs etc, what I meant was he was playing relatively well vs Dent and Ivan but those stats you posted of him in the final was just terrible. But I just have to watch the match. I thought it can be a closer match and better effort from David in yet another final.

Of course I can just think it's his toe, and that might make me feel better. I hope that won't affect his performance in Basel, I can't wait to watch another match of Rogi/David.

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 06:24 AM
I don't think David will want to miss Basel at all, he loves playing there, he has won a title and made a final there as well. I think the organisers might give him some time to recover from it.

lsy
10-25-2004, 06:32 AM
Yes and he beat Rogi there which is why it will be interesting if he and Rogi can meet and play there again this year.

Good to see you back posting here again btw.

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 06:34 AM
Yes and he beat Rogi there which is why it will be interesting if he and Rogi can meet and play there again this year.

Good to see you back posting here again btw.

I always look forward to their matches, but I want to see David win a final for a change.

lsy
10-25-2004, 06:37 AM
I always look forward to their matches, but I want to see David win a final for a change.

That will be a tough one for me, especially that being in Rogi's home tournament ;)

What if it's a David/Gaudio final?

Action Jackson
10-25-2004, 06:41 AM
That will be a tough one for me, especially that being in Rogi's home tournament ;)

What if it's a David/Gaudio final?

Gaudio will not be making a final indoors, so I am safe there.

lsy
10-25-2004, 06:53 AM
Gaudio will not be making a final indoors, so I am safe there.

:haha: ok, I know you have a case there but I'll r'ber this post hope for that day when I can bump it and make you eat your words :aparty:

jmp
10-25-2004, 08:11 AM
I just saw part of the ESPN2 Madrid highlights and taped all of it! I had no idea it was being shown in the US until I was casually flipping through the TV guide this afternoon. I am overjoyed for Marat! :woohoo:

David seems to have lost some more weight. He looks good. I think he needs to continue. I believe if he works on his fitness, the injuries will be less frequent and his confidence will return. Congratulations on a great tournament, David! :)

I have been totally behind the Peter-Marat pairing since I first learned about it. I hope they continue to enjoy great success together.

GO MARAT!! :D :D THIS IS FANTASTIC! :dance:

Daniel
10-25-2004, 08:16 AM
Congrat Marat :D

Riley Finn
10-25-2004, 10:37 AM
which is why i look forward to the possibility of a Federer-Safin rivalry. let's face it, when the #1 player has over one thousand points and the #2 is hovering around 600, you kinda wish for new opponents to step up to the plate. hence my wish for a Federer-Safin rivalry.

hey Duckfan, have i spelled this out enuf or do you need me to repeat it for a fifth fucking time?

I'm sure we can reach 10th time teh way it is going.

tennischick
10-25-2004, 12:31 PM
I know many prefer a Safin/Rogi rivalry than Andy/Rogi, but isn't Safin record vs Rogi just as bad? Though with PL in his camp now, things might just change very quickly.

For me, I still prefer a David/Rogi rivalry, I r'ber luck did play a part for his win vs David in AO early this year and I feel like among most on tour now, David probably will be the one who's least intimidated by Rogi.
my reason for wanting the Safin-Rogi rivalry is not bec i think Safin can beat Roger (even with PL's help) but bec i think that their matches should be a joy to watch. it's the same reason why i enjoy Agassi vs most of the top players -- the ensuing tennis is just awesome. i am more interested in good tennis than in statistics.

i was disappointed in the level of David's play in this match. he played superbly leading up to the finals. once again he collapsed once he got there. he really needs to work on that. :mad:

tennischick
10-25-2004, 12:33 PM
And of course now PL is the hero, I recall not long ago when many were suggesting that PL has done nothing for Safin and he should fire him. Expect tunes to change dramatically now ;) Good to see that these 2 are working so well together and that should stop nonsense about PL's reputation as a coach (i.e. for the moment till Safin loses his next match of course ;)
i have always and only read positive things about PL as a coach. what criticisms are you referring to? :confused:

maratski
10-25-2004, 12:37 PM
I'm sure we can reach 10th time teh way it is going.

Sweetie you seem to know that while you hardly post here. :) Some duckfans have a little problem with reading or understanding that the world is not just the way THEY see it. The poor souls are blinded by duckvision.

To get back to the topic, I wonder why some people think Marat will fall back to his old self again. I know that with Marat anything can happen, but for the first time in years, he is not only healthy, but also confident. As long as he stays healthy, then I don't see him losing form. I'm not saying that from now on he will be invincible or rise to the lever that Roger is at right now, but I do believe he will start giving EVERY opponent a tough time and not giving up anymore.

Some people also wonder why Peter gets praise one day and can get trashed the next day. I don't know how many of you actually follow Marat's career intensively, but I can tell you I do (like that's a surprise ;)). When all season long you hear how the guy wants to be ready for the USO, cause he knows he can do well there and loses in the first round, you wonder why. When on court you see Marat do everything wrong, you can't help but look at his coach to blame as well. I know it's the player on court to be blamed for a loss, but if the goal of both the player and the coach is to peak at the USO, then I understand why Peter's presence with Marat was/is questioned. I know I certainly wondered that after the USO.

federer_roar
10-25-2004, 01:57 PM
damn starsports! they showed much delayed the match tonight yet cut the trophy presentation and Marat's speech!! :mad: :fiery: :tears:

Bubble
10-25-2004, 02:31 PM
damn starsports! they showed much delayed the match tonight yet cut the trophy presentation and Marat's speech!! :mad: :fiery: :tears:


I waatched the 2nd delayed telecast and they shown David 's full speech and only 1 sentence of Marat's speech...
I wonder who was the victor of the match :fiery: :mad: :o :fiery:
DAmn!

WyveN
10-25-2004, 02:55 PM
The mind exercises are something he needs to consider.

David needs to talk to someone like Lendl, another player who couldnt play well to save his life in the final of a major tournament early on in his career.

jazz_girl
10-25-2004, 02:57 PM
David needs to talk to someone like Lendl, another player who couldnt play well to save his life in the final of a major tournament early on in his career.
I agree with you, that might help him...

*Ljubica*
10-25-2004, 03:31 PM
I don't think David will want to miss Basel at all, he loves playing there, he has won a title and made a final there as well. I think the organisers might give him some time to recover from it.

No, he won't want to miss Basel, but he has injured his foot quite badly so may be forced to withdraw and, if this is the case, he will withdraw from Paris as well :sad: I am just back from Madrid - it is true that David didn't play so well in the final, even though his performances in all his previous matches were great (and in Vienna also). He was obviously hampered by the foot injury, and his nerves got bad under pressure and the serve went again just when he was beginning to get it all back together. But take nothing away from Marat - he deserved to win the Madrid tournament - good luck to him and his fans.

lsy
10-25-2004, 03:35 PM
my reason for wanting the Safin-Rogi rivalry is not bec i think Safin can beat Roger (even with PL's help) but bec i think that their matches should be a joy to watch. it's the same reason why i enjoy Agassi vs most of the top players -- the ensuing tennis is just awesome. i am more interested in good tennis than in statistics.

That I have to agree ;)

lsy
10-25-2004, 03:37 PM
David needs to talk to someone like Lendl, another player who couldnt play well to save his life in the final of a major tournament early on in his career.

What changed that later on for Lendl?

WyveN
10-25-2004, 03:41 PM
What changed that later on for Lendl?

Not sure, probably coming from 2 sets to 0 and a break down in the FO to beat Mcenroe in 1984.
It all comes down to confidence and that probably gave it to Lendl.

Vass
10-25-2004, 04:30 PM
To get back to the topic, I wonder why some people think Marat will fall back to his old self again. I know that with Marat anything can happen, but for the first time in years, he is not only healthy, but also confident. As long as he stays healthy, then I don't see him losing form. I'm not saying that from now on he will be invincible or rise to the lever that Roger is at right now, but I do believe he will start giving EVERY opponent a tough time and not giving up anymore.


I don't remember it too well and hardly have time to go back and read the forums and Marat's interview of AO 04, but I think he was both healthy and confident there too. Fans were rejoiced there too. People though he wouldn't become his old self again after AO.... What he did was become worse than his old self....
Ilhame, come one... :wavey:

maratski
10-25-2004, 04:44 PM
He was physically and mentally dead at the time and didn't have a good coach.

Vass I just mean that you shouldn't get too excited, but there's also no reason to start being pessimistic already :hug:

the cat
10-25-2004, 05:11 PM
Down the stretch! I must say that I am pleasantly surpised Marat has kept Lundgren as his coach for most of the year. It's nice to see Marat showing some faith in his coach. And it's even nicer to see them be rewarded for their player - coach relationship with some stellar results from Safin down the stretch this season! :D

TC, I would love a Safin/Federer rivalry. :D But I think a Safin/Nalbandian rivalry is more likely. :) ;) Marat, Andy Roddick or any other player will really have to raise the level of their tennis to become a serious long term rival for Federer in the future.

tennischick
10-25-2004, 06:12 PM
Men's Match of the Day
Madrid - Final
Marat Safin (3) def. David Nalbandian (4) 6-2 6-4 6-3

For the most part, it was the old Marat Safin, pounding away on just about every shot. And it was not the old David Nalbandian. He got to lots of balls, but he just made too many errors. Safin broke six times; Nalbandian managed a brief 3-1 lead in the second set but couldn't hold it.

That's big for Safin in a number of ways. For starters, he finally wins another Masters title -- his first since Paris 2002, before all his injury problems. It goes far to back up his title at Beijing and redeem his horrid summer. And it implies that Safin might once again be in position to be the ATP's dominant indoor player. (Of his four Masters titles, three have come indoors: Two on carpet at Paris and now this.)

Dominant or not, he'll be going to Houston after missing the Masters Cup in 2003; this win qualifies him for his third year-end Championships. By winning, he moves ahead of Tim Henman into the #6 spot in the Race. That takes him off the bubble; Tim Henman is in some danger, especially if Guillermo Coria can play (and we've heard that he's practicing, though he's hitting a "Dementieva-like" serve), but Safin is secure. Now he just has to decide how much energy to expend in the coming weeks: He's planning to play St. Petersburg, and of course Paris is his favorite Masters. Does he really want to play all three weeks to end the season?

David Nalbandian heard somewhere that he had to win both the next two events to qualify for the Masters. He heard wrong -- or, rather, he heard incomplete. Since Nalbandian is competing with Henman and Andre Agassi for the final spot (spots), he has to earn more points than they do to qualify, and since they're playing this week and next, the only way he can "force" a qualification is by winning both events. But chances are that the other candidates won't win everything in sight, either, and who knows if Coria will play? Nalbandian isn't in a great position, but he is still competitive (certainly more so than Joachim Johansson or Tommy Robredo, who are now some 60 Race points back). If he can just stop making those errors, he might get somewhere.

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the cat
10-26-2004, 01:43 AM
Thanks for the report. I hope Marat is funally starting to use his mind to go along with his exceptional physical ability as a tennis player. :)

PerezRoldan
10-26-2004, 05:43 AM
David needs to talk to someone like Lendl, another player who couldnt play well to save his life in the final of a major tournament early on in his career.

That's true and David was seen practicing with Muster and there is someone he could ask about winning big finals.