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Marseille ATP250 vs Memphis ATP500

bouncer7
02-19-2012, 05:25 PM
4 top10 vs 2 top20

Tsonga, Fish, Tipsarevic, Del Potro vs Isner and Roddick(out of top20 after this event)


nice to see that Fish has learned a lesson :wavey:

Certinfy
02-19-2012, 05:33 PM
If more top 10 players went to North America or South America after the Australian Open they would gain a whole shitload more of points than going to Europe.

bouncer7
02-19-2012, 05:41 PM
If more top 10 players went to North America or South America after the Australian Open they would gain a whole shitload more of points than going to Europe.its not all about pionts and money, they dont make you better player.I guess Fish just saw what happened to Roddick who only plays in USA

156mphserve
02-19-2012, 05:46 PM
Roddick isn't getting bad now because he plays in the US. He's getting old, if he went to play Marseille he would be crushed

bouncer7
02-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Roddick isn't getting bad now because he plays in the US. He's getting old, if he went to play Marseille he would be crushed
and Fish is even older :)

Roddick would never go anywhere but USA cause he always was avoiding strong field. Has he ever won event outside America except Queens? maybe just a couple cause he has 30 titles

henke007
02-19-2012, 06:24 PM
Marseille is one of the better 250.s together with Sthlm. A shame Mempis goes on as a 500 year after year.

tennisfan856
02-19-2012, 06:27 PM
I don't know if it's changed this year, but Memphis doesn't even have a challenge system. That should automatically make you 250 or less.

Voo de Mar
02-19-2012, 06:42 PM
Memphis is a laughable tournament. Elvis Presley died in that city and that's all about that place.

jcempire
02-19-2012, 06:47 PM
Well.....Very tough to say....

guichard
02-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Fish has a $300K reason to play Marseille instead of Memphis

Hian-GOAT
02-19-2012, 07:21 PM
Wise choice for those players who're playing in Memphis instead of Marseille: more points for them.
Players have money to go to South Africa and other far places, and they prefer Marfail to GOATmphis?

Looner
02-19-2012, 07:28 PM
Why are there so many obscure 500 events at random times during the year. I mean they're not all well placed for the top guys to complete their commitments. Just look at Washington. I wasn't even aware Memphis was a 500 event :facepalm:.

Johnny Groove
02-19-2012, 07:39 PM
If I was a player, it would be a no doubt situation to play in Memphis than Marseille. Easy field for a 500, lots of points and money to be won.

Unless Marseille is guaranteeing Fish a large appearance fee, which is why he's playing there.

156mphserve
02-19-2012, 07:43 PM
The placement of Memphis isn't obscure, it's 2 weeks before IW, and Miami:shrug:

Washington is only obscure this year because it's with the Olympics, normally washington is the week before Montreal/Toronto, that's not obscure either

Dougie
02-19-2012, 07:54 PM
If I was a player, it would be a no doubt situation to play in Memphis than Marseille. Easy field for a 500, lots of points and money to be won.

Unless Marseille is guaranteeing Fish a large appearance fee, which is why he's playing there.

I´ve always thought the same thing, especially for lower ranked players there are many points to be won at San Jose, Memphis and Delray Beach, the field is so weak.

Apparently Fish is getting a nice appearance fee from Marseille. And considering he played Davis Cup in EUrope and will play in Dubai, it makes sense to stay in Europe.

RIboy
02-20-2012, 12:57 PM
Memphis should be 15k$ futures

American278
02-20-2012, 01:25 PM
and Fish is even older :)

Roddick would never go anywhere but USA cause he always was avoiding strong field. Has he ever won event outside America except Queens? maybe just a couple cause he has 30 titles

yeah he won St.Polten; Lyon ; Peking ; Brisbane and Dubai...yes he is always avoiding strong fields that`s why he for example played dubai in 2008...

romismak
02-25-2012, 11:01 PM
O.k one thing was comparing those events before they started, but now when we look on those tournaments, F in Memphis Raonic-Melzer, Melzer is playing really great, that match against Isner was amazing from his side, but still ranking wise - that F for 500 event.. Milos is defending runner-up and clearly besides Nole best in-form player this season so far, but if you would say before Memphis started that Melzer will earn 300 points for F, Stepanek and Becker 180 for SF than i would laugh-SF - Becker.... at 500 event, he wouldn´t make SF in any other 500 event for sure.

Marseille - SF-3/4 highest seeded, only Fish was eliminited- but that guy Olivetti has future for sure.. but still SF - Delpo, Tsonga highest seeded guys, Tipsy- consistent guy in last months and Llodra-home hero - indoor fast surface - former champion it is not such big surprise he make it to SF and F

Really if we compare Memphis and Marseille i have nothing to say just wondering what´s wrong here...

Even 250 Buenos Aires is much better than Memphis - it is different outdoor clay - other 2 are indoor fast HC, but still - SF - Almagro, Wawrinka, Ferrer and Nalbandian is decent for any 250 event, especillay on clay, alredy in F is former champion and guy who is one of best clay-courters out there.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-25-2012, 11:04 PM
:lol:
Memphis is equal with a strong challenger event. The highest ranked player Raonic beat this week is Anderson at 35.
In Marseille there are top 10 players in the draw.

romismak
02-25-2012, 11:06 PM
:lol:
Memphis is equal with a strong challenger event. The highest ranked player Raonic beat this week is Anderson at 35.
In Marseille there are top 10 players in the draw.

KEvin was defeated here by Sam, you confused it with San Jose:)

SapELee
02-26-2012, 12:01 AM
I don't know if it's changed this year, but Memphis doesn't even have a challenge system. That should automatically make you 250 or less.

It has a challenge system but only on center court.

SapELee
02-26-2012, 12:04 AM
and Fish is even older :)

Roddick would never go anywhere but USA cause he always was avoiding strong field. Has he ever won event outside America except Queens? maybe just a couple cause he has 30 titles

I remember him winning Dubai one year where he defeated both Nadal and Djokovic. He never went back to defend the title because of the Shahar Peer incident if I remember correctly.

Kat_YYZ
02-26-2012, 12:07 AM
:lol:
Memphis is equal with a strong challenger event. The highest ranked player Raonic beat this week is Anderson at 35.
In Marseille there are top 10 players in the draw.

Novak, Nadal and Murray haven't been playing any tournaments these weeks: only Fed played Rotterdam. According to most of MTF, all the other players are mugs and 'temporary/accidental top 10' players anyways (Fish, Tipsarevic, Almagro), so you would've said it was a weak field no matter what. :shrug:

TheBaker
02-26-2012, 12:10 AM
Gulbis, Stakhovsky, Rochus, and Becker was Milos' road to the final. Delpo beat Davydenko, Gasquet and Tsonga.