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Ladies, can it become a burden when a guy friend tells you he likes you?

2003
02-19-2012, 08:56 AM
I didnt ask the question in reverse because, as far as im concerned, im thrilled if a girl im friends with tells me she likes me, cause I like pretty much all of them anyway.

I think guys like it, but if you dont, contribute freely.

Girls, does this become a burden? Id imagine it happens a lot to some girls. Especially given todays prevelant female - male friend zoning practise.

I mean do you dread the day a guy friend tells you he wants things to go further, id imagine it must happen so much more often than the reverse?

GSMnadal
02-19-2012, 09:06 AM
I didnt ask the question in reverse because, as far as im concerned, im thrilled if a girl im friends with tells me she likes me, cause I like pretty much all of them anyway.

I think guys like it, but if you dont, contribute freely.

Girls, does this become a burden? Id imagine it happens a lot to some girls. Especially given todays prevelant female - male friend zoning practise.

I mean do you dread the day a guy friend tells you he wants things to go further, id imagine it must happen so much more often than the reverse?

:awww: This makes me sad somehow

Anyway, it's the same for guys as for girls... if you like them too, you'll be thrilled. Otherwise, welcome to awkward central.

Bilbo
02-19-2012, 09:49 AM
friend zone

Gagsquet
02-19-2012, 11:51 AM
2 words is enough. Bilbo just gave his masterclass :worship:

Hewitt =Legend
02-19-2012, 11:54 AM
Nice contribution from the ladies so far.

Ajde.

Harmless
02-19-2012, 12:52 PM
Are you writing a book, 2003?

tennizen
02-19-2012, 12:57 PM
I have no friends. This makes it a bit easier.

gaitare
02-19-2012, 12:57 PM
I told a female friend today that she likes me.

Hewitt =Legend
02-19-2012, 01:04 PM
Are you writing a book, 2003?

It will be released the same day as Bilbo's ultimate sex bible. Wonder who will sell more copies in the opening week...?

Ajde.

Harmless
02-19-2012, 01:12 PM
It will be released the same day as Bilbo's ultimate sex bible. Wonder who will sell more copies in the opening week...?

Ajde.
Hard to tell. Bilbo has the superior logic, but 2003 has the superior field research.

Li Ching Yuen
02-19-2012, 01:17 PM
Harmless, I have to let you know that I like you as a woman, and would love to go all Barry White on you.

Sham Kay
02-19-2012, 01:22 PM
I voted "No guy friend has ever told me that"

Must be my bed hair and lack of make up..

Harmless
02-19-2012, 01:47 PM
Harmless, I have to let you know that I like you as a woman, and would love to go all Barry White on you.
Thank you. :hatoff:
And if you saw me on the week before waxing appointments, unclogging the drains in paint-stained sweats, you'd probably like me as a man, too.
I believe in all-encompassing love, just the kind of person I am. :p ;)

I voted "No guy friend has ever told me that"

Must be my bed hair and lack of make up..
I don't think so. There must be other factors.

Nathaliia
02-19-2012, 03:40 PM
depends how good looking he is :lick:

anyway, if i dont feel safe enough in someone's presence, that person won't become my friend for sure
so, he already must possess all traits i need in a guy
apparently the few people i reached most intimate friendship level with were all in my bed :facepalm: but they were all good looking, yes

for all the time i did believe in friend zone, until now, when i actually realized the pattern in my life :lol: friendzoned are the worse looking ones and i'm not that totally close with them

i only had one very good looking and very true friend that i wasn't in bed with, but probably because we nearly grew up together and it felt more like incest issue than friendzone issue :lol:

Johnny Groove
02-19-2012, 03:48 PM
It is a mistake to make blanket statements one way or the other.

It all depends on the person. From a male point of view, which is all I can give, it all depends on how you do it and whether you sense she digs you or not as well.

If you two are friends and she is single, and she is always flirty with you, etc, go ahead and make the move. But it all depends on how you make the move. You gotta make it as if you could care less whether she says yes or no. If you make the move sheepishly, defensively, passively, then for sure she'll stick you in the friend zone.

It all depends on the man reading the woman, sensing whether she would be receptive or not, and then making the move boldly, confidently, with style.

Certinfy
02-19-2012, 03:55 PM
Well I was pretty close to this girl as friends and after I told her I liked her things got quite bad, she ignores my texts and just isn't the same person when I see her, but it's as if she's trying to act like nothing's different.

She was a bitch anyway so good on me she didn't like me back.

Bilbo
02-19-2012, 03:59 PM
It all depends on the man reading the woman, sensing whether she would be receptive or not, and then making the move boldly, confidently, with style.

I agree with you. That is why reading body language is more important than anything else. The best way to make the move is a direct approach.

2003
02-19-2012, 08:03 PM
Well I was pretty close to this girl as friends and after I told her I liked her things got quite bad, she ignores my texts and just isn't the same person when I see her, but it's as if she's trying to act like nothing's different.

She was a bitch anyway so good on me she didn't like me back.

I hear you, this situation does suck.

Its like when you talk, they pretend nothings wrong, but theres this giant elephant in the room and its like shes oblivious to it, but at the same time, she treats you like a prick.

Certinfy
02-19-2012, 10:03 PM
I hear you, this situation does suck.

Its like when you talk, they pretend nothings wrong, but theres this giant elephant in the room and its like shes oblivious to it, but at the same time, she treats you like a prick.
:worship: You put it absolutely perfectly.

I actually see this girl tomorrow too, any way to counter it? :lol:

Naudio Spanlatine
02-19-2012, 10:07 PM
2003:worship:

leng jai
02-19-2012, 11:01 PM
Everytime I ask a friend out they end up moving to a different country. I wonder if the two things are somehow related?

Ajde.

Certinfy
02-19-2012, 11:22 PM
Everytime I ask a friend out they end up moving to a different country. I wonder if the two things are somehow related?

Ajde.
:lol:

Reminds me of a friend (really ugly guy) I had who told his friend (a girl who he really liked) that he liked her one day on Facebook. She ignored him and the next week she moved to the US and only told him about the move when she was there. :help: :tape: He cried about it for like a week while me and some other friends just kept taking the piss out of him. :o

Hewitt =Legend
02-19-2012, 11:24 PM
Everytime I ask a friend out they end up moving to a different country. I wonder if the two things are somehow related?

Ajde.

Not true, I'm still in Australia bro.

Ajde.

v-money
02-19-2012, 11:36 PM
I hear you, this situation does suck.

Its like when you talk, they pretend nothings wrong, but theres this giant elephant in the room and its like shes oblivious to it, but at the same time, she treats you like a prick.

This can happen but it doesn't always turn out that way. My freshman year of college, I told a friend that I had feelings for her and it made things extremely awkward for the rest of the school year and she didn't even talk to me over the summer. To make things even worse, we already had made arrangements to live in the same apartment the following school year.

I was really stressed about it, but things ended up working out just fine. We basically returned to the level of friendship we had before and even lived together the following year. She still continues to be one of my best friends and we have a strictly platonic relationship.

I think we were able to achieve this by never talking about that incident. You have to realize that you can't force someone to like you. I let her know my feelings, her feelings were not the same as mine, and I just had to move on and readjust my feelings. It's not very inspirational or romantic, but it's the sad truth of life. Although I must admit, I have had a tougher time with this approach with failed relationships.

Nole Rules
02-20-2012, 12:04 AM
I fell inlove with a girl i know since my childhood days. She did tell me that she really likes me. She really likes to talk with me and spends some time with me. I thought/felt that she is inlove with me. Then i decided to make my move and tell her that i love her but guess what happened, folks? She told me that there is another guy in her life. I was really shocked and heartbroken at the same time. I didn't know what to do. All this time she was just considering me a friend. How disappointing!

The good thing is that I learned a big lesson from this. I will never tell a girl that i like/love her without knowing her true feelings about me. I should know her true feelings towards me first.

2003
02-20-2012, 12:22 AM
:worship: You put it absolutely perfectly.

I actually see this girl tomorrow too, any way to counter it? :lol:

My girl lives in another country, havent seen her since the incident and doubt very much ill ever see her again, so I cant offer any advice.

leng jai
02-20-2012, 12:24 AM
I fell inlove with a girl i know since my childhood days. She did tell me that she really likes me. She really likes to talk with me and spends some time with me. I thought/felt that she is inlove with me. Then i decided to make my move and tell her that i love her but guess what happened, folks? She told me that there is another guy in her life. I was really shocked and heartbroken at the same time. I didn't know what to do. All this time she was just considering me a friend. How disappointing!

The good thing is that I learned a big lesson from this. I will never tell a girl that i like/love her without knowing her true feelings about me. I should know her true feelings towards me first.

So in other words you are never going to ask a girl out again. Good luck with that bro.

Ajde.

v-money
02-20-2012, 12:32 AM
So in other words you are never going to ask a girl out again. Good luck with that bro.

Ajde.

Agreed.

Sure you may feel silly for a couple of days if you fail, but what's the big deal? Better then living in a fantasy world or not knowing where you stand.

Just look at Certinfy's example. If he had never expressed his emotions he would not have discovered, for some time, that the girl was really a bitch. This does happen sometimes. You live in a fantasy world and think the person is perfect, but revealing your emotions can really expose the true side of an individual.

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 12:38 AM
My tactic of never asking out a girl so I will never experience rejection is working out quite nicely at the moment.

Ajde.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-20-2012, 12:39 AM
This exact situation happened to me in my junior year of college. A guy who was my friend/lab partner apparently started liking me a lot and I didn't notice it all. Then one day he came to a class that I was TA'ing and sat in the back, staring at me, for 2 hours while I was teaching. Finally at the end of the class he walked me to the train station and told me he liked me. I was like, WhereTF did this come from? And then things became very awkward between us (mostly my fault, I was kinda creeped out by what he did) and he thankfully graduated soon so I never saw him again. I hope he didn't think I was a bitch for leading him on (at least I don't think I led him on), but if he does, I hope he got over me since I'm not exactly a big catch anyway in the looks department and I'm saving myself for Ponyboy anyway :p

leng jai
02-20-2012, 12:47 AM
This exact situation happened to me in my junior year of college. A guy who was my friend/lab partner apparently started liking me a lot and I didn't notice it all. Then one day he came to a class that I was TA'ing and sat in the back, staring at me, for 2 hours while I was teaching. Finally at the end of the class he walked me to the train station and told me he liked me. I was like, WhereTF did this come from? And then things became very awkward between us (mostly my fault, I was kinda creeped out by what he did) and he thankfully graduated soon so I never saw him again. I hope he didn't think I was a bitch for leading him on (at least I don't think I led him on), but if he does, I hope he got over me since I'm not exactly a big catch anyway in the looks department and I'm saving myself for Ponyboy anyway :p

Photos please, we will be the judge.

Ajde.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 12:50 AM
I will never tell a girl that i like/love her without knowing her true feelings about me. I should know her true feelings towards me first.

That is absolutely needy behavior and does not get you far with women. You should not wait for a woman to give you signs. As a man you must always take the lead.

I approach women on the street who have never seen me before and I immediately state my interest in her.

Honestly, reading some posts in here I wonder how some of you even manage to get on a date with woman.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-20-2012, 12:52 AM
Photos please, we will be the judge.

Ajde.

Ha! If I ever manage to get a pic with DelPo and me together, I'll post that so everyone can see the clear disparity in height/weight between me and Pony.

leng jai
02-20-2012, 12:55 AM
That is absolutely needy behavior and does not get you far with women. You should not wait for a woman to give you signs. As a man you must always take the lead.

I approach women on the street who have never seen me before and I immediately state my interest in her.

Honestly, reading some posts in here I wonder how some of you even manage to get on a date with woman.

:worship: x infinite +1

Ajde.

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 12:58 AM
I approach women on the bus. That way they cannot run away from me.

Ajde.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-20-2012, 12:59 AM
Oh God, I *hate* it when guys talk to me and I'm stuck on the train. I've been chatted up by some seriously weird, older men on the train before and it's really disturbing because you just CAN. NOT. GET. AWAY. FROM. THEM!!!!

leng jai
02-20-2012, 01:00 AM
The buses in Melbourne have my photo displayed on the back of every seat and a public service announcement to "watch out for this gimp". Makes it kinda hard for me.

Ajde.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 01:01 AM
I fell inlove with a girl i know since my childhood days. She did tell me that she really likes me. She really likes to talk with me and spends some time with me. I thought/felt that she is inlove with me. Then i decided to make my move and tell her that i love her but guess what happened, folks?

The reason here is simple. You made your move too late and women begin to think that you do not want anything from her. It is a classic mistake many guys do (including me sometimes). This is why she has another boyfriend. A boyfriend who made his move early.

The reason why you did not made the move early is because of fear of reaction. Even worse, you treated her like she is the only girl in your life (also a needy behavior that scares away women). This has only made your fear bigger. An attractive man has many options in his life.


She told me that there is another guy in her life. I was really shocked and heartbroken at the same time. I didn't know what to do. All this time she was just considering me a friend. How disappointing!

Again a very needy behavior.

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-20-2012, 01:14 AM
An attractive man has many options in his life, at any time.

Speaking of attractive men (not to go too off-topic here, but this *is* the non-tennis section), do you think Juan Martin has a hard time getting some women to sleep with him? At first you might laugh at this, but think about it from a petite woman's point of view: sex with him has *got* to be painful on some level, especially for a woman who's having sex for the first time ever. The man is enormous all over, he's got at least a foot in height and anywhere from 75-100 pounds on your average-sized woman. Not to mention other, ahem, assets that he may be hiding from plain view :devil:

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 01:28 AM
It's always the burden. I lost my best friend like this, twice. Everything was just perfect, I was happy to have a friend like that to whom I could tell everything, I felt great with the guy. Then once he told me that he was in love with me, and he wanted us to date. I didn't want to date him, not because I didn't like him, but simply I liked him as a friend, there wasn't any sparkle, any physical desire whatsoever for me. I explained to him that I really liked him as a friend but had no intention of dating him, and that I valued real friendship much more than dating. For a while we carried on being friends, but things were awkward, and then once he got drunk and sent me a message that he couldn't go anymore like that and because he knew I would never make up my mind and date him, he couldn't talk to me anymore, because he couldn't bear it, stuff like that. Since then, I only once received one drunk message from him saying pretty much the same, but we never talked to each other again.

Almost the same thing happened to me again a bit later, with my friend from high school. We got really close during a school trip to England, and things were a little bit romantic with us, but we never started dating. Then he started dating another girl, and I stepped back to give him space. He broke up with that girl and came back to me, and we became friends again. He was in some difficult situation with his parents divorcing quite nastily, and he suffered from depression and so on. We were spending a lot of time on ICQ talking about pretty much everything, sometimes he would get into the mood that he threatened with suicide if I didn't come to his house at night and so on, but I was always pretty rough with him when he did this, and he stopped immediately. Or when I went away for a day and left my phone at home, I would find 29 missed calls from him when I got back, but we were still friends, just going for walks and talking, we had the same hobbies, and music taste, and opinions. Then once he told me he wanted to invite me for a date. I explained to him the same thing as to the previous guy. He turned it into a joke and pretended he didn't ask, but eventually in a month or so he started to date a girl and our friendship ended again. The girl was my opposite, always concerned about him when he threatened with suicide, and in a year he basically drained her and broke up with her, after which she was devastated and he started to drink and do stupid things. Then we went on another school trip for a week, and we got close again, talking rather normally to each other by day when he was sober, but the nights when everyone was drinking he usually got drunk and then doing some propositions to me like insisting that I would sleep in their cottage with him, or I would come to my cottage and find him in my bed etc. By the end of the week it got calmer and we were back to our "normal", but there was still the drama to it as the girl he had broken up with was our classmate too and we would have her breaking down whenever she saw us two together. After the trip he eventually came back to her, but this "coming back" periods lasted until the end of high school when we went to different unis, and only saw each other a few times, but I would say we still sort of keep in touch. Recently I met some friends from high school and we exchanged news about the others, and they were surprised when I mentioned him and told me that actually I was the only person of the whole class he was still talking to. While the previous guy really upset me, this crazy roller-coaster actually didn't affect me, probably because I was the dominant person in that relationship and I was always in control of it, even though I remember actually feeling jealous of that girl when he was going out with her (not because I wanted to date him, but I didn't like her for stealing a friend from me). His best friend once told me (after we had a few drinks) that I "sexually frustrated" the guy, that really made me laugh :lol:

So yes, with me it's always decided immediately if I want to be just friends with the person or if I want to be something more. I don't grow from one to another. And it really upsets me if the other person feels the other way and tells me after such a long time, I always feel like they were supposed to tell me at the very beginning :shrug: I understand that maybe they weren't sure at that time, but still all I put into the friendship goes to waste afterwards...

noddzy
02-20-2012, 01:45 AM
Speaking of attractive men (not to go too off-topic here, but this *is* the non-tennis section), do you think Juan Martin has a hard time getting some women to sleep with him? At first you might laugh at this, but think about it from a petite woman's point of view: sex with him has *got* to be painful on some level, especially for a woman who's having sex for the first time ever. The man is enormous all over, he's got at least a foot in height and anywhere from 75-100 pounds on your average-sized woman. Not to mention other, ahem, assets that he may be hiding from plain view :devil:

How about this couple then !

http://cdn.showbizspy.com/static/DKD-0019642.jpg

Juan Ma Del Pony
02-20-2012, 01:47 AM
That's Shaq, right? He's huge! I feel sorry for that lady, whoever she is...

v-money
02-20-2012, 02:05 AM
Sometimes being friend-zoned is acceptable. As with my previous example, I actually was good friends with the girl and maintaining a friendship was going to be important because I was going to live with her the following year.

In a more recent case, I started getting close to a girl strictly because I liked her. Before this we were friends but really wouldn't go out of the way to see each other. We actually did have a romantic relationship, but she told me that she was confused with her feelings and wanted to go back to being friends.

This change of feeling actually did not bother me that badly, but her request to stay close friends was just pointless in my opinion. I treat her just like I did before I had feelings for her. I'm nice to her when we bump into each other, but I don't make any effort to see her and she's been complaining about this to some of our mutual friends. I honestly don't understand it because I made the extra effort just because I liked her. It may sound heartless, but I don't really care for being that close without the benefits of a romantic relationship. I don't see why I should be acting like her best friend, even though we were not best friends in the first place. Am I at fault here?

LittleGloves
02-20-2012, 04:11 AM
Never had a guy friend says he like me. :tears:

tripwires
02-20-2012, 04:41 AM
I approach women on the bus. That way they cannot run away from me.

Ajde.

The buses in Melbourne have my photo displayed on the back of every seat and a public service announcement to "watch out for this gimp". Makes it kinda hard for me.

Ajde.

Can you guys please stop treating this serious topic like a joke? :rolleyes:

Oh God, I *hate* it when guys talk to me and I'm stuck on the train. I've been chatted up by some seriously weird, older men on the train before and it's really disturbing because you just CAN. NOT. GET. AWAY. FROM. THEM!!!!

It's worse when they stare at you creepily for 40 minutes. Oh my god.

That is absolutely needy behavior and does not get you far with women. You should not wait for a woman to give you signs. As a man you must always take the lead.

I approach women on the street who have never seen me before and I immediately state my interest in her.

Honestly, reading some posts in here I wonder how some of you even manage to get on a date with woman.

I've made the first move in all my relationships. And to be honest, if some random guy came up to me on the street and expressed his interest in me I'd think he was a freak no matter what he looked like.

And to answer the OP: Yes, it's a huge burden if a guy friend told me he liked me only if I felt nothing for him beyond friendship. Whenever my best guy friend jokes about getting together with me I just laugh hysterically.

Nole Rules
02-20-2012, 06:32 AM
So in other words you are never going to ask a girl out again. Good luck with that bro.

Ajde.

Unless the girl was as sexy/hot as Haas of course. I think i look good enough to try my luck with them. :p Seriously, for me personality > looks. The girl i loved isn't really good looking. She was decent. I mean she is not ugly nor very beautiful.

2003
02-20-2012, 06:54 AM
And to be honest, if some random guy came up to me on the street and expressed his interest in me I'd think he was a freak no matter what he looked like.

Yeah. Maybe you could get away with it with some crafty work if you were playing on a beach, or in a mall or whatever. But not walking down the street. Never ever. Many men have tried and many men have failed.

2003
02-20-2012, 06:57 AM
That is absolutely needy behavior and does not get you far with women. You should not wait for a woman to give you signs. As a man you must always take the lead.

I approach women on the street who have never seen me before and I immediately state my interest in her.

Honestly, reading some posts in here I wonder how some of you even manage to get on a date with woman.

Thats a bit harsh mate.

I know plenty of emo fuckers who get a lot of pussy.

Dini
02-20-2012, 10:45 AM
Awkward and weird only begins to scratch the surface.

leng jai
02-20-2012, 10:49 AM
Awkward and weird only begins to scratch the surface.

I really like you Dini.

Ajde.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 11:00 AM
I've made the first move in all my relationships. And to be honest, if some random guy came up to me on the street and expressed his interest in me I'd think he was a freak no matter what he looked like.

And to answer the OP: Yes, it's a huge burden if a guy friend told me he liked me only if I felt nothing for him beyond friendship. Whenever my best guy friend jokes about getting together with me I just laugh hysterically.

If I had some friends around, he would be maybe even getting beaten up because they'd think he was some freak bothering me :lol:

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 11:33 AM
I've made the first move in all my relationships.

I wonder what kind of guys we are talking here.

And to be honest, if some random guy came up to me on the street and expressed his interest in me I'd think he was a freak no matter what he looked like.

Then you are not the right girl for the guy who approached you. As simple as that.

I wonder how you would react in a club if some random guy came up to you and expresses his interest in you, because that is a normal thing there. If that is ok for you, then you are even more conservative as I thought. If not, then you are not into dominant and honest guys and you prefer needy guys.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 11:41 AM
If I had some friends around, he would be maybe even getting beaten up because they'd think he was some freak bothering me :lol:

I have approached girls on the street with three guys in the group. Nothing bad has happened. I have approached girls with their boyfriend standing next to me on the street and in clubs. Nothing bad has happened.

Yeah. Maybe you could get away with it with some crafty work if you were playing on a beach, or in a mall or whatever. But not walking down the street. Never ever. Many men have tried and many men have failed.

You have a low self-esteem my friend :lol: These guys are not good enough then.

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 11:44 AM
In my unprofessional opinion there is a difference between possessing low self esteem and not wanting to ask out random chicks on the street.

Ajde.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 11:49 AM
I wonder what kind of guys we are talking here.



Then you are not the right girl for the guy who approached you. As simple as that.

I wonder how you would react in a club if some random guy came up to you and expresses his interest in you, because that is a normal thing there. If that is ok for you, then you are even more conservative as I thought. If not, then you are not into dominant and honest guys and you prefer needy guys.

In a club that's another thing, people go there to interact between themselves. But on a street it's a normal part of women's psychology to freak out. Since you're a little girl, they tell you not to talk to strangers on the street, and no matter what intentions you have, you are still a stranger and we cannot know what intentions you have. It's a learned code, nothing to do with being conservative or not, it's as simple as being taught to have 911 pre-dialed when walking home alone at night or to hold keys as a weapon, to sit alone and close to the driver on the night bus. Normally you would think it's nonsense and that you would never do that, but once being in that situation you suddenly find yourself holding the keys and pre-dialling 911.

If I lived in a safer country I would probably behave other way. But generally, if I told someone that a random guy spoke to me on the street and I went somewhere with him afterwards, people would think I was utterly stupid and incredibly lucky that I wasn't dead by now. Not trying to say that I couldn't meet a freak in the club, but also there any reasonable girl will try to find out if some of her friends know the guy before really going somewhere with him. Among my friends there are almost non who have a gf/bf who isn't somehow related to the others. They are always a friend of someone, a relative of someone, or they went to the same school as someone, you met them on the school dancing course etc. You rarely get to talk to someone you weren't introduced to by your friends here.

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 11:52 AM
Tulipe spilling some true tea.

Ajde.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 12:11 PM
In a club that's another thing, people go there to interact between themselves. But on a street it's a normal part of women's psychology to freak out. Since you're a little girl, they tell you not to talk to strangers on the street, and no matter what intentions you have, you are still a stranger and we cannot know what intentions you have. It's a learned code, nothing to do with being conservative or not, it's as simple as being taught to have 911 pre-dialed when walking home alone at night or to hold keys as a weapon, to sit alone and close to the driver on the night bus. Normally you would think it's nonsense and that you would never do that, but once being in that situation you suddenly find yourself holding the keys and pre-dialling 911.

If I lived in a safer country I would probably behave other way. But generally, if I told someone that a random guy spoke to me on the street and I went somewhere with him afterwards, people would think I was utterly stupid and incredibly lucky that I wasn't dead by now. Not trying to say that I couldn't meet a freak in the club, but also there any reasonable girl will try to find out if some of her friends know the guy before really going somewhere with him.

Maria, you are heading the wrong direction here. You have a complete wrong picture about what I am talking about.

Among my friends there are almost non who have a gf/bf who isn't somehow related to the others. They are always a friend of someone, a relative of someone, or they went to the same school as someone, you met them on the school dancing course etc. You rarely get to talk to someone you weren't introduced to by your friends here.

This is sad. Talk about having limited choices. A lot of my friend met their girlfriends on the street, randomly.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 12:17 PM
Maria, you are heading the wrong direction here. You have a complete wrong picture about what I am talking about.



This is sad. Talk about having limited choices. A lot of my friend met their girlfriends on the street, randomly.

It's the only picture I have about a guy talking to me on the street :shrug: A guy talking to me on the street is always a guy talking to me on the street, I don't see anything else.

I on the contrary have never heard about a couple that would meet this way. It's always "I worked with her mother" or "a friend introduced us at a party".

Certinfy
02-20-2012, 12:24 PM
I'm actually sitting near to that girl now that I told I liked and I said hi and got no reply and now she an her friends are talking with each other like I never exist. Good fucked up shit.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm actually sitting near to that girl now that I told I liked and I said hi and got no reply and now she an her friends are talking with each other like I never exist. Good fucked up shit.

Pretty normal reaction. If she's with friends she feels secure, and not awkward for not talking to you, so it's easy for her to ignore you (she still knows you are there, though, and probably wishes that you would leave). Ignoring is normal for us when we are hurt. Then we call our friend and say "he was there and tried to talk to me, but I IGNORED him!" and the friend says "you did very well, girl!" :haha: Oh, how complicated creatures we are sometimes :lol:

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 12:41 PM
It's the only picture I have about a guy talking to me on the street :shrug: A guy talking to me on the street is always a guy talking to me on the street, I don't see anything else.

It is your personal opinion and reaction, but MOST girls are not like this from my experience. Most girls appreciate being approached on the street. Hell, they even dream of it some have told me. A guy who has the balls to do it. A guy who is not drunk and who is charismatic. That is refreshing. Maybe in the Czech Republic it is different, but I have heard good things about approaching Czech girls on the street, especially in Prague. Streets are a wonderful place to get into conversations with people and it comes off as more genuine.

I on the contrary have never heard about a couple that would meet this way. It's always "I worked with her mother" or "a friend introduced us at a party".

You just don't know it any different like most people. That's it. Judging by your long post from the previous page, you seem to deal a lot with drunk and needy guys. I don't understand how this is good for you.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm actually sitting near to that girl now that I told I liked and I said hi and got no reply and now she an her friends are talking with each other like I never exist. Good fucked up shit.

That is a normal reaction from girls. They try to test your persistence and masculinity. You even have it in clubs very often.

Your reaction is typical for most guys. You thought you fucked up and give up.

MariaV
02-20-2012, 12:46 PM
I think 2003 should stop starting :stupid: threads. :D

tennizen
02-20-2012, 12:52 PM
That is a normal reaction from girls. They try to test your persistence and masculinity. You even have it in clubs very often.

Your reaction is typical for most guys. You thought you fucked up and give up.

Mr.Collins agrees with you @2.52 onwards

tWx7AF8B0R8

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 12:56 PM
Mr.Collins agrees with you @2.52 onwards

tWx7AF8B0R8

He is creepy. Thanks for sharing, though.

tennizen
02-20-2012, 01:02 PM
He is creepy. Thanks for sharing, though.

That is besides the point. If you listen carefully, he shares some of your views.

acionescu
02-20-2012, 01:04 PM
It will be released the same day as Bilbo's ultimate sex bible. Wonder who will sell more copies in the opening week...?

Ajde.

None will reach the My 1st Grand Slam levels, anyway.

Ajde.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 01:07 PM
It is your personal opinion and reaction, but MOST girls are not like this from my experience. Most girls appreciate being approached on the street. Hell, they even dream of it some have told me. A guy who has the balls to do it. A guy who is not drunk and who is charismatic. That is refreshing. Maybe in the Czech Republic it is different, but I have heard good things about approaching Czech girls on the street, especially in Prague. Streets are a wonderful place to get into conversations with people and it comes off as more genuine.



You just don't know it any different like most people. That's it. Judging by your long post from the previous page, you seem to deal a lot with drunk and needy guys. I don't understand how this is good for you.

Prague is maybe different, because they are used to foreigners there. And yes, if you are a foreigner, you have an advantage - we are curious and tell ourselves that maybe in your country it is normal to do it like this. But the city I live in is not the prettiest and safest in the world, and people here are generally suspicious. But I can't imagine a situation in which this wouldn't come out as awkward here, because we don't just normally hang out on the streets (I heard some South Americans who came here surprised that we were "indoor types", they were used to people going out a lot and spending time outside, while we tend to stay inside, either in clubs, restaurants, cafés, or home... not out on the streets, actually in this city when the shops close at 7 pm, the streets are almost empty).

If I deal with drunk and needy guys... yes, most of my classmates at high school were like that. But they were friends, I was a part of the "gang", I wasn't looking for a relationship with any of them. And as friends, I don't mind these. My boyfriends were nor drunk nor needy. Yet they never made the first step, it was always me. Not all the guys can be confident, and I don't think that the ones who are shy are somewhat inferior to the confident ones. I actually prefer shy guys to the over-confident ones. I don't mind doing the first step, the times when women were supposed to sit and wait until being picked up are long gone. If I was waiting for the guys to make the first step, I would feel like I had no control of my life, because the choice would be entirely up to the guy. The first step should be made by whichever of the two finds courage sooner, but there is no rule that it should be the guy. This "rule" for me belongs to these "guys always pay" ones.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 01:08 PM
That is besides the point. If you listen carefully, he shares some of your views.

I guess you mean that she is testing his persistence.

tennizen
02-20-2012, 01:21 PM
I guess you mean that she is testing his persistence.

Yes. In this case, he fails but the theory is solid because he is successful with the next person he tries it on.

Harmless
02-20-2012, 01:29 PM
That is absolutely needy behavior and does not get you far with women. You should not wait for a woman to give you signs. As a man you must always take the lead.

I approach women on the street who have never seen me before and I immediately state my interest in her.
Classic Bilbo logic. I'm sorry if this sounds brash, don't mean to offend your dominant male sensibilities :awww:, but do you even listen to yourself?
You don't think that trying to get the attention of dozens/hundreds/etc of women, that you've never seen in your life and know nothing about, randomly on the street, thinking about what women want and what women think and what you should do and what you shouldn't do in regards to women all the time and trying to change your natural personality to accomodate your conclusions/some mental construct of what some generic woman is about is needy behaviour?

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 01:37 PM
Prague is maybe different, because they are used to foreigners there. And yes, if you are a foreigner, you have an advantage - we are curious and tell ourselves that maybe in your country it is normal to do it like this. But the city I live in is not the prettiest and safest in the world, and people here are generally suspicious. But I can't imagine a situation in which this wouldn't come out as awkward here, because we don't just normally hang out on the streets (I heard some South Americans who came here surprised that we were "indoor types", they were used to people going out a lot and spending time outside, while we tend to stay inside, either in clubs, restaurants, cafés, or home... not out on the streets, actually in this city when the shops close at 7 pm, the streets are almost empty).

There are cultural differences of course and small cities or villages are not good locations to approach women on the street, because everyone knows you in a short amount of time. In a big city, if I fuck up, the chance to see her again is very small. Even with 3.5 million people I have met several girls at day and night who I have already approached :lol: Sometimes I see the same girl 3 or 4 times during the same day, especially when they go shopping :lol:

If I deal with drunk and needy guys... yes, most of my classmates at high school were like that. But they were friends, I was a part of the "gang", I wasn't looking for a relationship with any of them. And as friends, I don't mind these.

If someone calls me 29 times a day, I would probably dumb his ass. A guy calling a girl 3 times a day is already bad, let alone 29 times. This is horrible and needy as hell. Does not matter if he is your friend or not.

My boyfriends were nor drunk nor needy. Yet they never made the first step, it was always me. Not all the guys can be confident, and I don't think that the ones who are shy are somewhat inferior to the confident ones. I actually prefer shy guys to the over-confident ones.

They are lucky ones. I never get approached from girls I am interested the most. I have to do all the work. I only get approached from girls I don't find attractive, especially in my daily life. In clubs it can be different, though.

I don't mind doing the first step, the times when women were supposed to sit and wait until being picked up are long gone.

It is still only a small percentage of girls who do that. I know that you approach guys, because I have always perceived you as a confident girl. However, as a man you should never wait and better take action. It is better to take action and get rejected than doing nothing at all and never know the answer. I have experienced it so many times and was biting myself in the ass for not doing it, even many weeks later. It is not a good feeling.

If I was waiting for the guys to make the first step, I would feel like I had no control of my life, because the choice would be entirely up to the guy. The first step should be made by whichever of the two finds courage sooner, but there is no rule that it should be the guy. This "rule" for me belongs to these "guys always pay" ones.

That is why I approach girls at any time and anywhere when I find her attractive. This way I feel more in control of my own life.

Bilbo
02-20-2012, 01:53 PM
Classic Bilbo logic. I'm sorry if this sounds brash, don't mean to offend your dominant male sensibilities :awww:, but do you even listen to yourself?
You don't think that trying to get the attention of dozens/hundreds/etc of women, that you've never seen in your life and know nothing about, randomly on the street, thinking about what women want and what women think and what you should do and what you shouldn't do in regards to women all the time and trying to change your natural personality to accomodate your conclusions/some mental construct of what some generic woman is about is needy behaviour?

Maya, learn the definition of needy first and then come back for more. Approaching a woman who I like is the opposite of needy behavior, because I give her the chance to reject me. This means, I value my own opinion of myself above hers. I don't care if she rejects me, but I also give her the opportunity to get to know me. Needy behavior would be to NOT approach her. This is a point nearly everyone understands wrong. Most people think when a guy approaches a lot of girls who he has genuine interest in, that he is needy and a player, but the opposite is true. Assuming his intentions are always genuine. This is important and brings us to your next point.

Changing your personality for someone else would be needy, yes. But who said I do this? It is my priority to be natural and honest with women. Either she likes me for who I am or not.

Harmless
02-20-2012, 02:06 PM
Maya, learn the definition of needy first and then come back for more. Approaching a woman who I like is the opposite of needy behavior, because I give her the chance to reject me. This means, I value my own opinion of myself above hers. I don't care if she rejects me, but I also give her the opportunity to get to know me. Needy behavior would be to NOT approach her. This is a point nearly everyone understands wrong. Most people think when a guy approaches a lot of girls who he has genuine interest in, that he is needy and a player, but the opposite is true. But it has to be always genuine. This is important and brings us to your next point.

Changing your personality for someone else would be needy, yes. But who said I do this? It is my priority to be natural and honest with women. Either she likes me for who I am or not.
You should put down those pop psychology books you seem to be getting all this crap from and read an actual formal psychology book, by a well-respected professional psychologist who doesn't specialize in "the Game" and operate out of Vegas.

I went out of my way and MWed needy for you, because I care. :hug:
needy, adj \ˈnē-dē\: marked by want of affection, attention, or emotional support

Nathaliia
02-20-2012, 02:38 PM
Classic Bilbo logic. I'm sorry if this sounds brash, don't mean to offend your dominant male sensibilities :awww:, but do you even listen to yourself?
You don't think that trying to get the attention of dozens/hundreds/etc of women, that you've never seen in your life and know nothing about, randomly on the street, thinking about what women want and what women think and what you should do and what you shouldn't do in regards to women all the time and trying to change your natural personality to accomodate your conclusions/some mental construct of what some generic woman is about is needy behaviour?
we talk a lot about women who can be stalked and crept for life (i am totally crept with bad experiences and some of my friends too; probably too many psychopaths around the dormitory area waiting for young girls and masturbating around them afterwards)

but would be funny if one of these girls bilbo approaches turned out to be a total psycho, and the predator would become a victim :haha: from the statistics point of view, might happen :lol:

Johnny Groove
02-20-2012, 02:46 PM
I am enjoying reading this thread.

Nathaliia
02-20-2012, 03:01 PM
i have an example to solve :D

let's say i see a picture of a boy on mtf and tell him i'd totally have a one weekend stand with him, using him in bed any way i feel like, but then he falls in love with me, and, despite i have a long time bf, he's there for me at any time of the day and night, trying to win my feelings. After almost a year he finally does, i know i'd never feel safer with anyone, i declare my love back and we become officially together, and we do our best to make the other one smile every day, actually both think more of the other person than we think of ourselves. totally mutual

questions:
1. who actually made the 1st step?
2. who is needy?
3. is the fact of "neediness" making our relationship doomed by default?
4. does it have a lower value than other relationships because each of us didn't met a partner at the street?
5. how did he get out of a friendzone?
6. are we a "nice girl" and "nice boy" just because sex wasn't the end and because we care about each other? and is it really a bad thing?

respectfully,
masterclass another polish troll

Johnny Groove
02-20-2012, 03:50 PM
Answer: Who gives a shit? :p

You love each other fully, who cares who made the first step or who is needy? Enjoy your love. :hearts:

gaitare
02-20-2012, 04:18 PM
It is your personal opinion and reaction, but MOST girls are not like this from my experience. Most girls appreciate being approached on the street. Hell, they even dream of it some have told me. A guy who has the balls to do it. A guy who is not drunk and who is charismatic. That is refreshing. Maybe in the Czech Republic it is different, but I have heard good things about approaching Czech girls on the street, especially in Prague. Streets are a wonderful place to get into conversations with people and it comes off as more genuine.


Bilbo, really, they don't. Some women are trained to be nice to other people from a very early age, so some of them will not tell you to fuck off and they will talk to you. Some women will be shocked that someone approached them in the street so if you're skilled at manipulating you'll earn a convo just because of the shock factor. I'm pretty sure most of these women will regret it once the shock is over.

Women don't like being approached in the street. The most important thing is that a woman in the street is totally out of her comfort zone. Vast majority of women will feel unsafe and threatened. Moreover, she probably thinks about something else, she's going somewhere, she's late, she's not thinking about any romantic interaction. In a club it's somewhat different, because statistically there will be more women there who just want to have fun at the moment you approach them.

Yeah, of course women dream about being approached in the street, I bet some women dream about being gang banged by six black strangers, but what does it have to do with reality?

I hope you know that every woman is different, every case is different, there are no patterns, techniques and golden rules. Hey, a woman can act differently at 6:30PM and 6:35PM depending on 100 factors. Seducing must come naturally, it must stem from your experience (and not from theories of others and not from male friends' experience because they lied to you) and presence, you have to use your empathy and observe a woman almost unconsciously, and whenever you talk about women, you seem extremely self-conscious. And that is just an introduction, because everything that's going on between a man and a woman is extremely complicated.

I'm shit at interacting with women BTW.

gaitare
02-20-2012, 04:21 PM
i have an example to solve :D

let's say i see a picture of a boy on mtf and tell him i'd totally have a one weekend stand with him, using him in bed any way i feel like, but then he falls in love with me, and, despite i have a long time bf, he's there for me at any time of the day and night, trying to win my feelings. After almost a year he finally does, i know i'd never feel safer with anyone, i declare my love back and we become officially together, and we do our best to make the other one smile every day, actually both think more of the other person than we think of ourselves. totally mutual

questions:
1. who actually made the 1st step?
2. who is needy?
3. is the fact of "neediness" making our relationship doomed by default?
4. does it have a lower value than other relationships because each of us didn't met a partner at the street?
5. how did he get out of a friendzone?
6. are we a "nice girl" and "nice boy" just because sex wasn't the end and because we care about each other? and is it really a bad thing?

respectfully,
masterclass another polish troll

:lol: attention seeking is someplace else :facepalm:

Harmless
02-20-2012, 04:35 PM
we talk a lot about women who can be stalked and crept for life (i am totally crept with bad experiences and some of my friends too; probably too many psychopaths around the dormitory area waiting for young girls and masturbating around them afterwards)

but would be funny if one of these girls bilbo approaches turned out to be a total psycho, and the predator would become a victim :haha: from the statistics point of view, might happen :lol:
Perhaps he meets a nice librarian lady like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlPkUFJNJ0).

Bilbo, really, they don't. Some women are trained to be nice to other people from a very early age, so some of them will not tell you to fuck off and they will talk to you. Some women will be shocked that someone approached them in the street so if you're skilled at manipulating you'll earn a convo just because of the shock factor. I'm pretty sure most of these women will regret it once the shock is over.
Or perhaps when they say "Sure, 100€" he figures he's succedeed at initiating a great conversation about the rise of oil prices. :dance: :ajde:

Poor 2003, works so hard at the OP and Bilbo always takes all the spotlight. Sort of like a Ferrer- FLopez situation.

Dini
02-20-2012, 04:41 PM
I really like you Dini.

Ajde.

:lol: I'm overjoyed you can make light of the situation.

Bilbo, really, they don't. Some women are trained to be nice to other people from a very early age, so some of them will not tell you to fuck off and they will talk to you. Some women will be shocked that someone approached them in the street so if you're skilled at manipulating you'll earn a convo just because of the shock factor. I'm pretty sure most of these women will regret it once the shock is over.

Women don't like being approached in the street. The most important thing is that a woman in the street is totally out of her comfort zone. Vast majority of women will feel unsafe and threatened. Moreover, she probably thinks about something else, she's going somewhere, she's late, she's not thinking about any romantic interaction. In a club it's somewhat different, because statistically there will be more women there who just want to have fun at the moment you approach them.

Yeah, of course women dream about being approached in the street, I bet some women dream about being gang banged by six black strangers, but what does it have to do with reality?

I hope you know that every woman is different, every case is different, there are no patterns, techniques and golden rules. Hey, a woman can act differently at 6:30PM and 6:35PM depending on 100 factors. Seducing must come naturally, it must stem from your experience (and not from theories of others and not from male friends' experience because they lied to you) and presence, you have to use your empathy and observe a woman almost unconsciously, and whenever you talk about women, you seem extremely self-conscious. And that is just an introduction, because everything that's going on between a man and a woman is extremely complicated.

I'm shit at interacting with women BTW.

:worship: :worship: Can this post be made a sticky somehow? :worship:

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 05:20 PM
Bilbo, really, they don't. Some women are trained to be nice to other people from a very early age, so some of them will not tell you to fuck off and they will talk to you. Some women will be shocked that someone approached them in the street so if you're skilled at manipulating you'll earn a convo just because of the shock factor. I'm pretty sure most of these women will regret it once the shock is over.

Women don't like being approached in the street. The most important thing is that a woman in the street is totally out of her comfort zone. Vast majority of women will feel unsafe and threatened. Moreover, she probably thinks about something else, she's going somewhere, she's late, she's not thinking about any romantic interaction. In a club it's somewhat different, because statistically there will be more women there who just want to have fun at the moment you approach them.

Yeah, of course women dream about being approached in the street, I bet some women dream about being gang banged by six black strangers, but what does it have to do with reality?

I hope you know that every woman is different, every case is different, there are no patterns, techniques and golden rules. Hey, a woman can act differently at 6:30PM and 6:35PM depending on 100 factors. Seducing must come naturally, it must stem from your experience (and not from theories of others and not from male friends' experience because they lied to you) and presence, you have to use your empathy and observe a woman almost unconsciously, and whenever you talk about women, you seem extremely self-conscious. And that is just an introduction, because everything that's going on between a man and a woman is extremely complicated.

I'm shit at interacting with women BTW.

Agree with Dini on :worship:

2003
02-20-2012, 09:18 PM
Pretty normal reaction. If she's with friends she feels secure, and not awkward for not talking to you, so it's easy for her to ignore you (she still knows you are there, though, and probably wishes that you would leave). Ignoring is normal for us when we are hurt. Then we call our friend and say "he was there and tried to talk to me, but I IGNORED him!" and the friend says "you did very well, girl!" :haha: Oh, what cruel creatures we are sometimes :lol:

Corrected.

What right exactly does she have to feel hurt in Certinfys situation?

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 09:45 PM
Thread status = ultimate :facepalm:

Most girls appreciate being approached on the street. Hell, they even dream of it some have told me..

Not sure what type of girls you're approaching mate but any female whose dream is to be approached on the street by a random dude isn't the sort of sheila I'd be looking to court anyway.

Just my 2 cents.

Ajde.

None will reach the My 1st Grand Slam levels, anyway.

Ajde.

OMG.

Thread status now = ultimate :bowdown: :D

Ajde.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 10:14 PM
Corrected.

What right exactly does she have to feel hurt in Certinfys situation?

Certinfy told her that he liked her, while she wanted him only as a friend. She maybe feels like the friendship can't go on like it used to, and that all the energy she had put into it went to waste. In a way, she can feel cheated on. The relationship turned out to be something else than she thought it was, and it wasn't her who changed it. She might feel hurt, it's normal. It's a selfish feeling, because of course it's not his fault either, but neither of them can help that. And if it's cruel... yes, it's cruel, we are cruel, mainly when something gets us off balance.

Thread status = ultimate :facepalm:



Not sure what type of girls you're approaching mate but any female whose dream is to be approached on the street by a random dude is the one who gets paid for it.

Just my 2 cents.

Ajde.




Corrected.

leng jai
02-20-2012, 11:09 PM
This thread has taught me a lot. Now excuse me while I get changed so I can go outside and ask every women and their dog to marry me.

Ajde.

Tulipe
02-20-2012, 11:18 PM
This thread has taught me a lot. Now excuse me while I get changed so I can go outside and ask every women and her dog to marry me.

Ajde.

The dog will accept for sure.

Sham Kay
02-20-2012, 11:19 PM
Just make sure to check she's a bitch, and you're in.

Hewitt =Legend
02-20-2012, 11:22 PM
I just wondered down my street, approached a woman I found desirable and proceeded to state my interest in her.

And it really does work, got a slap in the face for my troubles. That's the most action I've had in years.

Ajde.

leng jai
02-20-2012, 11:24 PM
I just went outside a bit but it seems someone gave all the the women in Melbourne a warning about my intentions - they all ran away before I was in courting distance. I will have to be more stealthy this time, like a ninja.

Ajde.

tripwires
02-21-2012, 12:20 AM
I wonder what kind of guys we are talking here.



Obviously the question isn't what kind of guys they are but what kind of person I am. I don't like to sit around and wait for things to happen and I can't keep my mouth shut, and it's super obvious when I like someone because I'm a horrendously open book. My first two boyfriends weren't that serious so let's not bother with them. My ex and my current BF, though, are both type A personalities - they're confident about what they can bring to the relationship and they definitely weren't the needy halves of the relationship.


Then you are not the right girl for the guy who approached you. As simple as that.


Okay, if you say so.

I've been approached on the streets before by complete weirdoes. Complete. Weirdoes. Perhaps it's a cultural thing; but where I'm from, no one normal approaches a random stranger on the streets without coming off as desperate and creepy.


I wonder how you would react in a club if some random guy came up to you and expresses his interest in you, because that is a normal thing there. If that is ok for you, then you are even more conservative as I thought. If not, then you are not into dominant and honest guys and you prefer needy guys.

Obviously if I went to a club my intentions would be to hook up, so that's a different story. I find your stereotyping horrific to say the least, making generalisations about what kind of guys I'm into just because my dating pattern doesn't conform to your idea of what women like (this idea, frankly, creeps me out). I'm into dominant and honest guys; who isn't? But obviously for me, a guy I date can't be afraid of women who 1) make the first move; 2) have an opinion; and 3) will not keep her mouth shut just to make him happy.

In a club that's another thing, people go there to interact between themselves. But on a street it's a normal part of women's psychology to freak out. Since you're a little girl, they tell you not to talk to strangers on the street, and no matter what intentions you have, you are still a stranger and we cannot know what intentions you have. It's a learned code, nothing to do with being conservative or not, it's as simple as being taught to have 911 pre-dialed when walking home alone at night or to hold keys as a weapon, to sit alone and close to the driver on the night bus. Normally you would think it's nonsense and that you would never do that, but once being in that situation you suddenly find yourself holding the keys and pre-dialling 911.

If I lived in a safer country I would probably behave other way. But generally, if I told someone that a random guy spoke to me on the street and I went somewhere with him afterwards, people would think I was utterly stupid and incredibly lucky that I wasn't dead by now. Not trying to say that I couldn't meet a freak in the club, but also there any reasonable girl will try to find out if some of her friends know the guy before really going somewhere with him. Among my friends there are almost non who have a gf/bf who isn't somehow related to the others. They are always a friend of someone, a relative of someone, or they went to the same school as someone, you met them on the school dancing course etc. You rarely get to talk to someone you weren't introduced to by your friends here.

This, pretty much.

Classic Bilbo logic. I'm sorry if this sounds brash, don't mean to offend your dominant male sensibilities :awww:, but do you even listen to yourself?
You don't think that trying to get the attention of dozens/hundreds/etc of women, that you've never seen in your life and know nothing about, randomly on the street, thinking about what women want and what women think and what you should do and what you shouldn't do in regards to women all the time and trying to change your natural personality to accomodate your conclusions/some mental construct of what some generic woman is about is needy behaviour?

and this, too.

fast_clay
02-21-2012, 12:48 AM
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/meme2.jpg

leng jai
02-21-2012, 01:03 AM
2003 thread + Bilbo

http://i.imgur.com/TfN4B.gif

Ajde.

fast_clay
02-21-2012, 01:09 AM
anyone who has a few minutes can view the images that Bilbo has based his persona upon...

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and some info for 2003, call now mate...

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Smoke944
02-21-2012, 04:12 AM
MTF females aren't shy about flattering themselves, no?

jmf07
02-21-2012, 06:52 AM
Ever since the Gooch got married I have been searching for my role model to pick up the ladies and it looks like I now have now found it in the form of Bilbo.

Hewitt =Legend
02-21-2012, 10:49 AM
I seduced the Gooch in Melbourne after implementing page 26 of Bilbo's ultimate sex bible to perfection. I approached him as he emerged from the lift at his hotel and proceeded to leave the facility with 4 pairs of his underpants.

Ajde.

EliSter
02-21-2012, 12:51 PM
Too good f.clay...too good

Black Adam
02-21-2012, 06:02 PM
Male Lizards do push ups to attract females and when scientists gave them testosterone they did push ups until they died.

2003
02-22-2012, 06:40 AM
MTF females aren't shy about flattering themselves, no?

To be fair, some of MTF top male posters..well..you dont get any more cock sure than some of them..

Just wait till I start a thread about penis size..

tripwires
02-22-2012, 06:43 AM
To be fair, some of MTF top male posters..well..you dont get any more cock sure than some of them..

Just wait till I start a thread about penis size..

Please don't.

Hewitt =Legend
02-22-2012, 06:55 AM
All 2003 threads should be merged into one massive sex thread.

Ajde.

jmf07
02-22-2012, 08:22 AM
I seduced the Gooch in Melbourne after implementing page 26 of Bilbo's ultimate sex bible to perfection. I approached him as he emerged from the lift at his hotel and proceeded to leave the facility with 4 pairs of his underpants.

Ajde.

You should sell a pair. You would become the third richest man in Australia after the Gooch himself and Brentos.

ssin
02-22-2012, 10:30 AM
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/patma2003/meme2.jpg


:rolls:

Raige
02-22-2012, 10:55 AM
The poll results suggest only two people are actually being honest. The other 8 are lying scum.

Honesty reduces my RAGE - I dislike those two people.

EliSter
02-22-2012, 11:15 AM
The poll results suggest only two people are actually being honest. The other 8 are lying scum.

Honesty reduces my RAGE - I dislike those two people.

Ok this is a new one...

Orka_n
02-27-2012, 06:23 PM
Hilarious contributions left and right in this thread for sure, but I for one will give my 2 cents seriously.

This is what I want to say, 2003:
I don't think you are asking the right question. Of course the ladies will feel awkward and weird if someone they get confessed to by someone they consider a friend.
The question you SHOULD be asking yourself is: are the feelings you have for the girl so strong that you cannot enjoy spending time with her as only a friend any longer? Because if that is the case, then sadly your friendship is already ruined (in the way that it will never be the same again, that is). And you will only torment yourself by keeping that stuff a secret for too long.

Yes, I have fallen in love with a female friend. I confessed, fully aware that she might not feel the same (not 100% sure though since there were certain signs). Eventually I got turned down.
Today we are friends again. Not as close as we once were (and I don't think we ever will be), but I still think it was worth confessing. How so, you ask? Because acting like I wasn't in love with her would have been too painful and, in the end, wouldn't have been fair towards her either since I was only pretending.

2003
02-28-2012, 04:37 AM
Eventually I got turned down.

MR MTF voters are in shock right now..

You were like, totally MR MTF most elligable batchelor

Naudio Spanlatine
02-28-2012, 04:40 AM
Ive had that plenty of times, it wasnt great and it wasnt comfortable at all, i mean the guy wanted to have sex with me, and he was one of my bestest friends:tape:

Kat_YYZ
02-28-2012, 06:10 AM
when I was in high school I had a male friend who said he liked me. I was just starting to be a bit interested in this other guy, so I told my friend I wasn't really feeling it and just wanted to stay friends. He said okay and he never acted any differently with me. We are still friends now, 20 years on. He never lost interest in being my friend and was always there for me. Even when that boyfriend left me and I was crushed, my male friend was very supportive and never tried to "move in" on me in a weak moment or anything like that.

It's a great feeling to know you can trust someone completely; you can trust them with your life. They don't desert you and they don't take advantage. Guys seem to understand this in guy/guy friendships: you see those movies with two guys in some war zone or burning building. No matter how bad it is, when you turn around... the other person is there; they have your back. They will never sell the other person out or betray them. When girls look for this kind of loyalty from men (either in friendship or marriage), the guys just look totally puzzled, like we are not even the same species.

Everybody just wants someone they can trust who won't disrespect them or sell them out (and of course you would do the same for them). I don't know why it's so hard to understand.

Time Violation
02-28-2012, 06:14 AM
Ive had that plenty of times, it wasnt great and it wasnt comfortable at all, i mean the guy wanted to have sex with me, and he was one of my bestest friends:tape:

So much for BFF :lol:

Naudio Spanlatine
02-28-2012, 03:35 PM
So much for BFF :lol:

Why would i have sex with a guy i considered to be like a brother more than just a friend, i mean if i had sex with a guy who is considered to be a brother to me the sex will feel awkward and just plain wrong really:o :shrug:

Orka_n
02-28-2012, 07:24 PM
MR MTF voters are in shock right now..

You were like, totally MR MTF most elligable batchelorAt first I was unsure whether this was sarcasm or not. 2003 is a decent chap though so I'll go with "not". :o Anyways I might be an okay guy and I have lots of female friends but no girlfriend at the moment. I tend to end up in the friend zone a lot. Which btw is not something I'm bummed out about at all. I really like it there 99% of the time.