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San Jose SF Raonic def Harrision 7-6 6-2

m9m9m9m9m9
02-18-2012, 10:29 PM
first set is very close..could have gone either way

LawrenceOfTennis
02-18-2012, 10:30 PM
Ryan was the better player in the first set but totally gifted the TB. Meltdown in the second set.
Disgusting result.

romismak
02-18-2012, 10:31 PM
Expected, fast indoor courts, Milos had very high FS% and after 1st set TB it was over- Milos first servin in 2nd set and being set up it was matter of time that Ryan will mentally not hold it and loose his service

156mphserve
02-18-2012, 10:31 PM
Revenges his IW loss to Harrison last year:)

Smoke944
02-18-2012, 10:32 PM
Ryan didn't play well at any point this week and today was the same. Only difference is Raonic doesn't allow you margin for error. Especially serving at 77%
Good thing most tournaments are outside and far slower than this :spit:

viruzzz
02-18-2012, 10:39 PM
Annkkwwaaaafffer Leeeeeeeiiiiikmmmm furrrr MEeeeeeeeLeeeeeesssxk

MaratandMilos
02-18-2012, 10:39 PM
Milos has become a better player since they played last year at Indian Wells. That was pretty obvious. He simply overpowered Harrison today (who at least played well in the first set before falling apart), showed better movement, and has become more consistent with his groundstrokes.

I would expect him to take the next match as well, especially if it's against Benneteau (a guy he simply outclassed last week). This is only the beginning of his march to the top 10 this year.

zoparrat
02-18-2012, 10:40 PM
The rallies felt like slow motion after the Fed-Davydenko match.

Snowwy
02-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Very exciting result for Milos.

Certinfy
02-18-2012, 10:42 PM
Come on! Milos! :yeah:

LawrenceOfTennis
02-18-2012, 10:52 PM
Milos has become a better player since they played last year at Indian Wells. That was pretty obvious. He simply overpowered Harrison today (who at least played well in the first set before falling apart), showed better movement, and has become more consistent with his groundstrokes.
:facepalm:

SapELee
02-18-2012, 11:00 PM
Not a bad week for Ryan considering how awful he played this week. If it wasn't for his serve, he would probably lose to Rochus and Ginepri. He will have more time for preparation next week (unlike this week where he flown across 9 timezones from a claycourt to San Jose), so good luck Ryan.

ossie
02-18-2012, 11:06 PM
regardless of who he has to face in the final, raonic will probably win it in straights. bennamug and istomin wont cut it im afraid.

allpro
02-18-2012, 11:18 PM
harrison competes well vs. milos because his natural court positioning (8 ft. behind the baseline) gives him time to set up for raonic’s deep, powerful groundstrokes. i'd like to see rao work on his touch and develop a well-disguised drop shot for guys like this.

MuzzahLovah
02-18-2012, 11:23 PM
Disappointing from Harrison- mostly in the tie break- while 7-4 doesn't sound like a blow out, he went down0-4 immediately, and really lost the match through a couple careless errors right then.

fast_clay
02-18-2012, 11:25 PM
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MuzzahLovah
02-18-2012, 11:26 PM
Benneteau returned Raonic serves much better in the doubles match after the singles, so I hoping he has a bit of a read on it if they face in the final. Raonic won't have a Canadian crowd behind him either. But Benny has to get through Istomin first, and I have no idea what to expect from him.

BroTree123
02-18-2012, 11:31 PM
Fuck yes! Fantastic news for tennis :yeah:

Voo de Mar
02-18-2012, 11:37 PM
Commentators mentioned something about Raonic's predisposition to learn mathematics. It perfectly suits to him, I don't know the other more robotic player than him, it's not an accusation, it's his tactics he has all rights to play the way he wants. At the moment his game is amazingly predictable but he calculates astonishingly and it's enough for most of guys at the moment. I'm waiting for his matches against the big boys, I'm very curious how will they deal with his robotic game-style, he's only faced Nadal and Ferrer out of the Top 10. I don't mention Almagro or Tipsarevic who in my mind share a status of accidental Top 10'ers.

Nole Rules
02-18-2012, 11:42 PM
Long Live Chairman Rao.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-18-2012, 11:43 PM
Raonic won't have a Canadian crowd behind him either.

SAP Open is basically his own event, same sponsor, screams from the crowd at the opponents serve and errors.

MaratandMilos
02-19-2012, 12:18 AM
Benneteau returned Raonic serves much better in the doubles match after the singles, so I hoping he has a bit of a read on it if they face in the final. Raonic won't have a Canadian crowd behind him either. But Benny has to get through Istomin first, and I have no idea what to expect from him.
I think that had more to do with Milos being uncomfortable with the doubles situation than Benneteau getting a better read on his serve. That doubles match was by far the worst he's served this season (even including the outdoor matches at the AO), his first serve percentage was way down.

And as Milos as shown in both San Jose and Chennai, he can do just fine when the crowds aren't loud. In fact, he may prefer it that way.

MaratandMilos
02-19-2012, 12:22 AM
:facepalm:
Harrison never had control of this match at any point and Milos has improved immensely since last March. Not sure what there is to disagree with there.

romismak
02-19-2012, 12:32 AM
I think that had more to do with Milos being uncomfortable with the doubles situation than Benneteau getting a better read on his serve. That doubles match was by far the worst he's served this season (even including the outdoor matches at the AO), his first serve percentage was way down.

And as Milos as shown in both San Jose and Chennai, he can do just fine when the crowds aren't loud. In fact, he may prefer it that way.

Agree with this. If Julien will make it to F, he will just make his F record even worse.. there is no way he will beat Milos, they played at the same surface also indoors just few days ago, Julien had much more winners than UE and still lost in straight sets, there is nothing he can do, about doubles and his crap serving i think it was because he simply wasn´t firing bombs on 100% - i think he was affraid he can hit NEstor, Milos flat bombs are 220-230km/h so i believe he was affraid he can hit NEstor and his serve in doubles just couldn´t be on 100%

MuzzahLovah
02-19-2012, 12:41 AM
Agree with this. If Julien will make it to F, he will just make his F record even worse.. there is no way he will beat Milos, they played at the same surface also indoors just few days ago, Julien had much more winners than UE and still lost in straight sets, there is nothing he can do, about doubles and his crap serving i think it was because he simply wasn´t firing bombs on 100% - i think he was affraid he can hit NEstor, Milos flat bombs are 220-230km/h so i believe he was affraid he can hit NEstor and his serve in doubles just couldn´t be on 100%

:haha:

LawrenceOfTennis
02-19-2012, 12:44 AM
Harrison never had control of this match at any point and Milos has improved immensely since last March. Not sure what there is to disagree with there.

He was the better player in the first set. This result has not much to do with improvements because Ryan gifted the TB. Ryan has been very tired all week after such long flight and he is in bad form.

156mphserve
02-19-2012, 12:46 AM
He was the better player in the first set. This result has not much to do with improvements because Ryan gifted the TB. Ryan has been very tired all week after such long flight and he is in bad form.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/excuse

Kat_YYZ
02-19-2012, 12:47 AM
Milos :yippee: :yeah:

MaratandMilos
02-19-2012, 12:47 AM
He was the better player in the first set.

Not really. They were about equal until Harrison gave away a few points in the TB. Milos' won the same amount of serve points in the set and three more return points. He then blew him out in the 2nd when Harrison gave up.


This result has not much to do with improvements because Ryan gifted the TB. Ryan has been very tired all week after such long flight and he is in bad form.
The fact that Harrison wasn't in his best form isn't Milos' problem.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-19-2012, 12:49 AM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/excuse

Idiot :lol:
No need for excuses.
I like Milos by the way but... he and his injuries...

MaratandMilos
02-19-2012, 12:50 AM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/excuse
Milos is supposed to be the one with the knee injury, too.

Jimnik
02-19-2012, 12:50 AM
You know American tennis is struggling when Canadians beat them in their own back yard.

Having said that, not a bad week from Harrison. One or two points go differently in the TB and the 2nd set becomes a different story.

Raonic's title to lose.

LawrenceOfTennis
02-19-2012, 12:51 AM
Milos is supposed to be the one with the knee injury, too.

:lol: A bit fake,no?

Smoke944
02-19-2012, 12:58 AM
You know American tennis is struggling when Canadians beat them in their own back yard.

Having said that, not a bad week from Harrison. One or two points go differently in the TB and the 2nd set becomes a different story.

Raonic's title to lose.

So let me get this straight...
A 19 year old American losing to a player ranked 60 places higher at a 250 on a court that is absolutely perfect for the higher ranked player's game says everything about the state of American tennis.
Got it. Solid MTF logic.

MaratandMilos
02-19-2012, 01:06 AM
:lol: A bit fake,no?
It certainly doesn't seem to affect him much.

SapELee
02-19-2012, 01:10 AM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/excuse

As a fan, you will probably make an excuse too if Milos flown 6000 miles across the world from a clay court in less than 2 days. ;) But all in all, this was a difficult match for Ryan to begin with. Milos seems untouchable indoor; Ryan probably has a better chance of beating him in an uncontrolled environment. I'm just happy that Ryan was able to pick up some points despite playing horrendously all week (hopefully, I don't have to see this too often).

Naudio Spanlatine
02-19-2012, 01:11 AM
I love both Milos and Ryan,

Vamos Milos:cheerleader: :hearts: :kiss:

Ryan:hug: :smooch: :sad:

156mphserve
02-19-2012, 01:17 AM
Idiot :lol:
No need for excuses.
I like Milos by the way but... he and his injuries...

then why did you use them?

He was the better player in the first set. This result has not much to do with improvements because Ryan gifted the TB. Ryan has been very tired all week after such long flight and he is in bad form.

also, the first set was very even:shrug:

Jimnik
02-19-2012, 01:37 AM
So let me get this straight...
A 19 year old American losing to a player ranked 60 places higher at a 250 on a court that is absolutely perfect for the higher ranked player's game says everything about the state of American tennis.
Got it. Solid MTF logic.
Haha, why not aim your lame attempt at sarcasm at people who really hate American tennis.

Smoke944
02-19-2012, 02:02 AM
Haha, why not aim your lame attempt at sarcasm at people who really hate American tennis.

That's why I responded how I did. There are plenty of posters here that love to go out of their way to criticize American tennis, but you're not one of them.

Yves.
02-19-2012, 02:50 AM
Raonic serves so incredibly well, great to see a player like him!

Slice Winner
02-19-2012, 02:52 AM
Harrison just not a good match player yet.
Raonic playing pretty well.

MuzzahLovah
02-19-2012, 03:02 AM
Raonic serves so incredibly well, great to see a player like him!

Why exactly? We already have Anderson, Ivo, and the serve bot King Isner.

And once upon a time an all serve player actually dominated tennis and rose to number 1 in the world. Andy Roddick. I thank the tennis Gods every day that that era is over. DOWN WITH THE SERVEBOTS

moon language
02-19-2012, 03:17 AM
Harrison just not a good match player yet.

I think the opposite. He's not a very good player overall, but he has a lot of fire and that sometimes makes up for it. He's getting about as much out of his current talent level as he can. If he doesn't stop reverting to defense so often and learn to play more on top of the baseline he's never going to do a lot better than he's doing now.

nellis_lv
02-19-2012, 03:18 AM
156mphserve, I just have to commend you for not changing your sig all throughout the year, cuz it's still true. [ ranked 25 and rising ]

there was a time when i was worried he'd fall out of top 70, after having to defend all his early 2011 points.

156mphserve
02-19-2012, 03:21 AM
can't be true, he hasn't risen past 25 yet:o

his injury in Wimbledon has a lot to do with that though:sad:

it's got more to do with me being too lazy to change it:lol:, but I'm sure he'll rise past 25th eventually:p

Slice Winner
02-19-2012, 03:50 AM
I think the opposite. He's not a very good player overall, but he has a lot of fire and that sometimes makes up for it. He's getting about as much out of his current talent level as he can. If he doesn't stop reverting to defense so often and learn to play more on top of the baseline he's never going to do a lot better than he's doing now.

Part of the reason why I think he's not a good match player is because he too often reverts to defense.
He's got a very nice serve, and a big forehand, and he's very quick, quite decent at net. He's easily top 20 material.
His problem is managing his abilities in big matches, which he's just not experienced at yet.
(Being fiery isn't the same as finding ways to beat tough opponents. Sure, he found a way to win against Rochus in 3, but that's actually the problem - should have been a straight sets wipeout.)

Yves.
02-19-2012, 09:26 AM
Why exactly? We already have Anderson, Ivo, and the serve bot King Isner.

And once upon a time an all serve player actually dominated tennis and rose to number 1 in the world. Andy Roddick. I thank the tennis Gods every day that that era is over. DOWN WITH THE SERVEBOTS

I can't explain. It is simply visually appealing to me. And I admire someone who has perfected his serve.

Sombrerero loco
02-19-2012, 09:49 AM
milos is just better than ryan right now. expected

Hian-GOAT
02-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Ryan :sad:

Raonic is such a disgrace for tennis :lol: A good serve and nothing more.
Best of badluck :)

ossie
02-19-2012, 11:59 AM
Why exactly? We already have Anderson, Ivo, and the serve bot King Isner.

And once upon a time an all serve player actually dominated tennis and rose to number 1 in the world. Andy Roddick. I thank the tennis Gods every day that that era is over. DOWN WITH THE SERVEBOTSamen to this :worship:

fran70
02-19-2012, 12:07 PM
Predictable. Raonic is a better player than Harrison.

madmax
02-19-2012, 12:47 PM
Harrison's pushing was never going to work indoors against servebot like Raonic. This is also a reason why Nadull struggles so badly on this surface - pushers be punished on it

BroTree123
02-19-2012, 01:03 PM
amen to this :worship:

I think I heard one time, that you liked Anderson.... what the hell man :confused:

Blue Heart24
02-19-2012, 02:10 PM
:yeah: Another title for Milos coming :lol: :D

Why exactly? We already have Anderson, Ivo, and the serve bot King Isner.

And once upon a time an all serve player actually dominated tennis and rose to number 1 in the world. Andy Roddick. I thank the tennis Gods every day that that era is over. DOWN WITH THE SERVEBOTS

Just shut the fuck up.

Ryan :sad:

Raonic is such a disgrace for tennis :lol: A good serve and nothing more.
Best of badluck :)

And you are a disgrace of a poster :wavey: