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Lleyton & Kim BREAK UP!!

cartmancop
10-22-2004, 02:29 AM
On wtaworld.com someone posted a link to kim's site kimclijsters.com that anounces that they broke up. It is on the version for the Netherlands but I don't think its on the english version. Is this for Real??

Chesty Larue
10-22-2004, 03:18 AM
omg..

I don't think there is anything else to say..

Billabong
10-22-2004, 03:20 AM
I'm shocked.. I have no words..

jeanie_sin
10-22-2004, 03:31 AM
i dont understand dutch, but i went to check her site, and it was there.
it only broke out about 1 hr ago, so i don;'t think the papers are that fast

Billabong
10-22-2004, 03:33 AM
this is a sad day for all the Lleykis:sad:!

Ballbuster
10-22-2004, 03:44 AM
If it's true it will be on Belgian news tomorrow so then we would find out if its legit

kim4eva
10-22-2004, 03:49 AM
I'm really, really hoping this is all wrong :sad: :bigcry:

Socket
10-22-2004, 03:50 AM
I just posted this on GM but I'll re-post it here. THe more I think about this, the fishier it sounds to me.

I have to wonder if this is true . . . Kim and Lleyton are popular, well-known stars in both Australia and Belgium. They have agents and managers who would handle something this explosive for them in a professional manner. Announcing their breakup in a few sentences on her website is very, very amateur. It's much more likely that Octagon would issue a press release. Let's wait until something gets confirmed (or denied). I think the website-was-hacked theory might have some merit.

Fergie
10-22-2004, 03:53 AM
This can't be happening.....please tell me it's not true :sad:

kim4eva
10-22-2004, 03:56 AM
I just posted this on GM but I'll re-post it here. THe more I think about this, the fishier it sounds to me.

I have to wonder if this is true . . . Kim and Lleyton are popular, well-known stars in both Australia and Belgium. They have agents and managers who would handle something this explosive for them in a professional manner. Announcing their breakup in a few sentences on her website is very, very amateur. It's much more likely that Octagon would issue a press release. Let's wait until something gets confirmed (or denied). I think the website-was-hacked theory might have some merit.

Me praying someone hacking in the website is true :sad: ...I mean, it just doesn't sound right when that 'article' on Kim's site said they don't want the press to make up any gossip about it..while they actually anounce their breakup on her website...If they so wanted to keep it private why would they say the exact words on the site. It just doesn't make sense. Or maybe I'm wrong...I'm just saying what I hope :sad:

NOMAD
10-22-2004, 04:01 AM
everytime Kim's site update a news or a diary
http://www.sport.be/nl/tennis/ will update at the same time in the news
but there's nothing about the breakup on the site now
I really think there's a possibility that the site has been hacked ,but:shrug:
I think we all have to wait and see if there's any further news,like Socket said :angel:

:hug: for anyone who is shocked and sad now

star
10-22-2004, 04:28 AM
Thanks for the :hug:

:)

Deboogle!.
10-22-2004, 04:48 AM
I don't come here much but :tears: I am hoping with you guys that it's somehow not true!!

crazzzy_grrl
10-22-2004, 07:25 AM
Apparently its all over the radio in Belguim but I haven't heard anything here in aus and we love them just as much as they do.

Knockers LaBroad
10-22-2004, 07:27 AM
It's over the net too....

I♥PsY@Mus!c
10-22-2004, 07:42 AM
It's damn pity :tears: ...

Ashie_87
10-22-2004, 08:46 AM
They just said on the news here that the WEDDING was off and nothing was said about the actual relationship so....:shrug:

duck
10-22-2004, 09:02 AM
Hi all.
I haven't been here for months :o :o (PhD crisis -don't ask I prefer not to think of it myself) but is this actually true? It genuinely came out of nowhere. Do any of the Belgians/Aussies know anything more?

chocc0
10-22-2004, 09:22 AM
they said something tonight on channel ten

kim-fan
10-22-2004, 09:27 AM
Game over for Hewitt and Clijsters
October 22, 2004 - 7:04PM

Kim Clijsters has stunned the tennis world by announcing her break up with Lleyton Hewitt, just four months before their scheduled wedding.

The news that the four-year relationship was over was released on the French version of Clijsters' official website www.kimclijsters.be.

The site said the pair didn't intend on explaining the break-up to the public.

"Kim and Lleyton have agreed to end their relationship for private reasons. There is, of course, no longer a question of marriage," her official website said.

Clijsters, 21, said last month she would marry Hewitt, 23, in Australia in February and the Belgian had often spoken about relocating Down Under because of the heavy taxation in her homeland.

Former Davis Cup player and respected commentator John Alexander said he was shocked by the news and hoped it was just a hiccup.

"It is sad because Australian tennis fans have come to love Kim and I think we will continue to, just as we do with Lleyton," he said.

"They are both very young and it is a long road and they might find their way back.

"It is a stressful time for them trying to arrange a wedding, having to appease family members and having two lots of arrangements in Adelaide and Belgium.

"And the frustration she must have felt since not being able to play because of her wrist injury and something has broken under the stress.

"I have never seen two people more in love and being so generous to each other.

"Let's just hope it is a hiccup and they get over it but if not, we wish them well."

Both players are former world No.1s, but Clijsters, who has won 21 career titles, is struggling with a wrist injury sustained in May.

Former Wimbledon and US Open champion Hewitt, 23, lost the US Open final to Roger Federer in September.

He has won 23 titles in his career including the 2001 US Open and 2002 Wimbledon titles.

Clijsters and Hewitt met at the 2000 Australian Open as teenagers when Kim's sister Elke asked her to get Hewitt's autograph and their relationship soon blossomed.

Clijsters quickly became known as "Aussie Kim" and endeared herself to the Australian public with her pleasant nature.

The couple was engaged after a romantic boat trip around Sydney Harbour last December.

The relationship with Clijsters softened Hewitt's brash image which was tarnished in his early tennis days by his petulant behaviour.

However, Hewitt was still generally uncomfortable showing his softer side in public while Clijsters was much more at ease talking about their relationship.

Clijsters reached No.1 in August 2003 without winning a major title, having lost in the finals of four Grand Slams.

Hewitt's management company Octagon were not returning phone calls.

www.theage.com.au

possie
10-22-2004, 09:59 AM
:wavey:

I've been away myself for a while, but this is just *Aaaaahhhhhhhh!* I can't believe it! I want it to be a hoax but its all over the news! :sad: I don't know what to think at this stage :o All I want to do is be able to keep goobering over their great relationship :tears:

JuanChuffy007
10-22-2004, 10:09 AM
Oh no!! :sad: :sad: They were such a cute couple!!

tournesol
10-22-2004, 10:22 AM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

SomL.
10-22-2004, 10:31 AM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

thalle
10-22-2004, 12:28 PM
it cant be true:sad: it mustnt be true:sad::sad::sad:
why?!:sad:

Jim Jones
10-22-2004, 01:23 PM
because lleyton has started to see someone else & they both want to concentate on their careers. It's not always easy dating someone from the fielad as you. Imagine dating someone from your office! Also no offense but Kim is really starting to look muscular a bit manly. No offense once again.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 02:28 PM
because lleyton has started to see someone else & they both want to concentate on their careers. Imagine dating someone from your office! Also no offense but Kim is really starting to look muscular a bit manly. No offense once again.

ugh .... if that is true, it will be devastating for Kimmy. Breakups are bad enough, but if its because one person has found someone else... ugh

Believe me I've been there --date someone in your field, in your office, and then be broken up with, and to see the someone with another. Ugh, ugh.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 02:33 PM
"There have been ongoing rumours in tennis circles that the Clijsters had fallen out with Hewitt's mother, Cherilyn, over wedding arrangements.

The close-knit Hewitt clan have always been publicly supportive of Clijsters and were often seen at her matches. But last month at the US Open, where Hewitt reached the final, Clijsters unusually sat away from his entourage.
"
from: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/22/1098316860100.html

star
10-22-2004, 02:33 PM
because lleyton has started to see someone else & they both want to concentate on their careers. It's not always easy dating someone from the fielad as you. Imagine dating someone from your office! Also no offense but Kim is really starting to look muscular a bit manly. No offense once again.

None taken, I'm sure. :fiery: :fiery:

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Here is an additional piece of info:

Singles again for Lleyton and Kim
By Bronwyn Hurrell
October 23, 2004

LLEYTON Hewitt was nursing a broken heart last night after Kim Clijsters dumped him over the telephone.
Clijsters rang Hewitt on Thursday night to end their relationship without giving a reason, but posted a brief statement on her website.

Hewitt, holidaying in the Northern Territory with close friend and Adelaide Football Club premiership hero Andrew McLeod, is understood to be bewildered and devastated.

The couple was to be married in Australia in February with a celebration following in Belgium. But Clijsters said a wedding is now "out of the question".

"Kim Clijsters and Lleyton Hewitt have mutually decided to end their relationship," Clijsters said on her website yesterday.

Reports surfaced earlier in the year that all was not well in the Hewitt camp, with relations between Clijsters and her future mother-in-law strained.

duck
10-22-2004, 02:37 PM
The blame game has started...

Singles again for Lleyton and Kim
By Bronwyn Hurrell
October 23, 2004

LLEYTON Hewitt was nursing a broken heart last night after Kim Clijsters dumped him over the telephone.

Clijsters rang Hewitt on Thursday night to end their relationship without giving a reason, but posted a brief statement on her website.

Hewitt, holidaying in the Northern Territory with close friend and Adelaide Football Club premiership hero Andrew McLeod, is understood to be bewildered and devastated.

The couple was to be married in Australia in February with a celebration following in Belgium. But Clijsters said a wedding is now "out of the question".

"Kim Clijsters and Lleyton Hewitt have mutually decided to end their relationship," Clijsters said on her website yesterday.

"Private reasons compelled the couple to end their relationship and logically following an eventual wedding is out of the question."

On the website it said "as every other couple whose relationship has come to an end" neither wished to speak publicly about it.

"Both distance themselves also from gossip in such situations," the statement read.

Two wedding ceremonies had been planned to satisfy the wishes of parents Glynn and Cherilyn Hewitt and Leo and Els Clijsters.

Hewitt, 23, proposed to Clijsters, 21, aboard a Sydney Harbour cruise last year.

The two former No 1 tennis players have been together for more than four years.

They met at the Australian Open in 2000.

Reports surfaced earlier in the year that all was not well in the Hewitt camp, with relations between Clijsters and her future mother-in-law strained.

Hewitt and Clijsters' wedding had also been announced via the Belgian's website. "The beautiful love story will have its logical extension with a marriage in February in Australia."

Hewitt, whose career peaked with US Open and Wimbledon titles in 2001 and 2002, lost in the US Open final to Roger Federer last month. Clijsters reached No 1 last year but has recently been troubled by a wrist injury.

The Daily Telegraph (aus)

Knockers LaBroad
10-22-2004, 02:43 PM
Here we go...:rolleyes::yawn:

These are the most difficult things when THEY ARE trying to work things out between them...:(

Socket
10-22-2004, 02:53 PM
"There have been ongoing rumours in tennis circles that the Clijsters had fallen out with Hewitt's mother, Cherilyn, over wedding arrangements.

The close-knit Hewitt clan have always been publicly supportive of Clijsters and were often seen at her matches. But last month at the US Open, where Hewitt reached the final, Clijsters unusually sat away from his entourage.
"
from: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/22/1098316860100.html

Well, they were all sitting together a few weeks before at the Legg Mason. Whatever happened, happened later.

I guess the only good thing about this is that if they (she?) had doubts, it was best to express them before the wedding, and not after.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 03:11 PM
I agree

I am very confused . This kind of on-phone off-continent break up sounds like Kim just got really mad. Someone else posted on the Luscious Lleyton forum that he is seeing someone else.... rumour? truth? I guess details will ultimately emerge

tournesol
10-22-2004, 03:40 PM
:wavey: duck

great to 'see' you again, pity that it's under these circumstances


hope life treats you reasonably well
:kiss:

Murkofan
10-22-2004, 03:46 PM
Freaky! Tinne and I were just speaking yesterday about this happening. Angele is going to go into a major tailspin, y'all.

Vass
10-22-2004, 04:09 PM
Poor Lleyton and poor Kim. Didn't realize how much I like them together until today.

Jess
10-22-2004, 04:21 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just don't know what to say. Just shocking.

Jess
10-22-2004, 04:34 PM
I do think though there must be a proper reason. I mean after five years, announcing your engagement, booking your wedding you just do not end a relationship "by phone".
If that really is what happened then this announcement has been coming for a long time.

jule
10-22-2004, 04:56 PM
OMG :sad: please, let that not be true!
i just came back from my grandmum were i stayed two days (which was really boring :o ) and now this!
that's so sad! :sad:
isn't lleyton still in northern territory? I'm not up to date, I'm sorry!

Gaga
10-22-2004, 05:06 PM
OH MY GOD !
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Lleyton4eva
10-22-2004, 05:42 PM
i cant believe theyve split up! :sad: :sad: :sad: but it does explain why lleyton was on holiday without kim and why he didnt play in the madrid masters because of "personal reasons" :confused:
and also im new here so hi to everyone!!! :wavey:

Goonergal
10-22-2004, 05:47 PM
I'm shocked. I know people split up everday, but Lleyton & Kim...:sad: :eek: :sad:

KaseyL
10-22-2004, 06:06 PM
I do think though there must be a proper reason. I mean after five years, announcing your engagement, booking your wedding you just do not end a relationship "by phone".
If that really is what happened then this announcement has been coming for a long time.

Don't think the phone call last night is really true as such because their wedding dress designer said in an interview that he was informed earlier on.

Jim Jones
10-22-2004, 07:01 PM
I take back what I said. It was not nice saying that Kim looked a bit manly. It's not true she does look bulky though.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 07:31 PM
I take back what I said. It was not nice saying that Kim looked a bit manly. It's not true she does look bulky though.

what about the other thing you said, about Lleyton seeing someone else? Do you take that back as well --was that a "joke"? :confused:

Nati
10-22-2004, 09:06 PM
I can't believe it!!! and, one more thing... Lleyton seein someone else?????!! OMG!! it can't be happening!!!

Crazy_Fool
10-22-2004, 09:07 PM
I don't know what to say :sad:

I never thought they would ever split up. Must have been alot going on that we didn't know about.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 09:11 PM
:sad:

Could this really be over, its so sad. It is so very sad..... :sad:

possie
10-22-2004, 10:02 PM
I'm still in shock. "OMG" and "I can't belive it" seem the only phrases I'm capable of. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine this happening in their relationship. I never thought I'd seen two people more in love. I don't really know what I'm going to do. Part of me is still desperately hoping its all some mistake. I wonder if its really Kim and Lleyton who have split or if family members (ie. parents) were the driving force :o I guess I hope they were, as then there's more chance they'll get back together. One article had a tour inside say he was "shocked" which makes me think there was nothing expressed outwardly (ie. manner etc.) from Kim or Lleyton that meant you could "see" this event happening, and that makes me think that someone else "suddenly" helped to end it. Oh, I don't know! :o

PLEASE let it all be one big mistake!

Socket
10-22-2004, 10:25 PM
Don't think the phone call last night is really true as such because their wedding dress designer said in an interview that he was informed earlier on.

Personally, I can't believe that he would have been told anything before it was made public, there was too much danger that he would say something to the press.

mitalidas
10-22-2004, 11:06 PM
lleyton's official website has been taken off temporarily. i did notice that on kim's website the "Lleyton" section is still there, but I presume its a matter of time before that's removed

Static
10-22-2004, 11:36 PM
Oh my, so here I was browsing through yahoo news, and I read that Lleyton and Kim split, so I decided to check the board to see whats going on... and sadly it seems to be true :sad: I hope all will be well for the two of them.

Though it seems to me that the press seem to dwell on the bad image of Lleyton's parents, depicting them some sort of control freaks. Remember that report about Glynn and Cahill having problems? Cahill (Lleyton's old coach for those of you that don't remember) left even though Llegs didn't want him to, and reportedly Lleyton begged him to stay or something of sorts? I hope "the mother in law" issue isn't the only reason for their split.
Anyways, I'll go and crawl back in to my hole :( All the best to them and to the Lleykies (there's always hope :) )

^Sue^
10-23-2004, 05:28 AM
poor thing!

Mihret
10-23-2004, 07:51 AM
There's an article in a belgian newspaper called La dernière les Sports and in other Belgian newspapers that all blame the Hewitt parents, and that have some "friends" of Kim saying she has been hesitating for a long time.
Is it that difficult to accept that maybe they both realised that they are both very young and that they decided to give each other some space for the moment? I wonder!

ataptc
10-23-2004, 08:41 AM
i'm still in shock too :sad: this is just so sudden!

donna
10-23-2004, 09:52 AM
All I can say as that this is all very :sad: and :eek: but also strange. It just doesn't make any sense that a couple who love each other as much as Lleyton and Kim do would decide after a 4 and a half year relationship to just end it over the phone without seeing each other face to face and discussing it. :confused: Maybe they did :shrugs: but they never appeared to be upset about anything or that there was any strain in the relationship. Kim seemed happy and bubbly in New York and at Hasselt and if there was major probs then i'm inclined to think that Lleyton would have been distracted on court at the Us Open. He didn't appear to be though. The only time he appeared a bit absent was in Tokyo but then again maybe they are just good actors and kept it private. You would just think that if the relationship really meant that much to them then they would get together and talk....Sorry for my ranting people...just had to let it out :sad:

Jess
10-23-2004, 11:27 AM
I'm still in shock. "OMG" and "I can't belive it" seem the only phrases I'm capable of. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine this happening in their relationship. I never thought I'd seen two people more in love. I don't really know what I'm going to do. Part of me is still desperately hoping its all some mistake. I wonder if its really Kim and Lleyton who have split or if family members (ie. parents) were the driving force :o I guess I hope they were, as then there's more chance they'll get back together. One article had a tour inside say he was "shocked" which makes me think there was nothing expressed outwardly (ie. manner etc.) from Kim or Lleyton that meant you could "see" this event happening, and that makes me think that someone else "suddenly" helped to end it. Oh, I don't know! :o

PLEASE let it all be one big mistake!


:hug: It's so sad! I can only think that what we see is the very "public" face of something and I guess it might be a lot different when they're on their own. Families not getting on can definitely cause a lot of difficulties. The only other thing I can think of is that maybe they have serious difficulties deciding on where to live. If he really didn't want to live in Belgium and she really didn't want to live in Australia then that's going to cause problems. :sad:
I just don't think it can have been that sudden - five years is an awfully long time to just end it. It must have been building up for a long time and they just kept it to themselves.

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 11:47 AM
more details emerge:

A "devastated" Lleyton Hewitt has flown to France after his break-up with fiancee Kim Clijsters.

The Sunday Telegraph has reported that Hewitt cancelled plans of attending an Adelaide 36ers NBL game and instead flew to Paris, where he is to play in the Masters tennis tournament starting November 1.

Clijsters announced on her website that their planned February wedding had been called off and that the pair had split.

The Telegraph said Hewitt had been called by Clijsters on Thursday to tell him that the relationship was over, Australia's Wimbledon champion saying he was "completely floored" to friends.

"He's angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught - all of that stuff," a friend said.

"He's been kicked in the guts and he's been kicked in the guts internationally and embarrassingly.

"He had a few signs but when it came, it came as a huge shock."

Reports from Belgium had reported that the former women's world No.1 had cancelled her wedding dress weeks ago.

Jess
10-23-2004, 11:55 AM
I think articles like that that paint Lleyton as totally broken hearted and Kim as the callous one whose been planning it all for weeks are a little biased. They're all coming from Australian newspapers who need to have something to print.
I can't imagine it would be quite as one sided as that article makes it out to be.

~EMiLiTA~
10-23-2004, 11:58 AM
poor guy (I never thought I'd be saying this about Lleyton as I'm not really a huge fan of him, but in this case I do feel sorry for him). Seems like a random kinda of action to suddenly just go to Paris, but I guess preparing for a tournament might take his mind of it...and perhaps he may be able to actually see Kim and speak to her face to face. This is just so totally random, I can't believe it. I think it's a bit unfair the way she's done it now when she knows the Masters Cup is so close. I know it would then be leaving it pretty late before the wedding, but I just think the timing is pretty bad.
It seems that it was her that did it, and that he is completely destroyed so I can't imagine he is with someone else. Maybe she found someone else?! But I think it's more likely the family thing. Lleyton's parents are notorious for this kind of thing...but more the Dad than the Mum...I never knew Kim didn't really get on with Lleyton's Mum. But why would that suddenly spark a split? Surely when she accepted to marry him she would have already known what the parents were like...arrghh it's all so weird.

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 12:04 PM
ya, I was neither a fan nor a "disser" of lleyton's, i sort of just went along enjoying sometimes watching him. but this split really made me sad. there must be more going on than we know, Kim would not throw away 4 years in a rash way. i know i'm being like the inquisitive media, but i am very curious and hope some clearer details woudl emerge

Hagar
10-23-2004, 12:08 PM
Hey guys, don't believe everything you read in the press. These journalists are not shy to make things up...

NOMAD
10-23-2004, 12:17 PM
Lleyton :sad: :sad: :sad:

Devastated Hewitt flies to Paris
October 23, 2004 - 9:34PM

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A "devastated" Lleyton Hewitt has flown to France after his break-up with fiancee Kim Clijsters.

The Sunday Telegraph has reported that Hewitt cancelled plans of attending an Adelaide 36ers NBL game and instead flew to Paris, where he is to play in the Masters tennis tournament starting November 1.

Clijsters announced on her website that their planned February wedding had been called off and that the pair had split.

The Telegraph said Hewitt had been called by Clijsters on Thursday to tell him that the relationship was over, Australia's Wimbledon champion saying he was "completely floored" to friends.

"He's angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught - all of that stuff," a friend said.

"He's been kicked in the guts and he's been kicked in the guts internationally and embarrassingly.

"He had a few signs but when it came, it came as a huge shock."

Reports from Belgium had reported that the former women's world No.1 had cancelled her wedding dress weeks ago.

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Hewitt's grandfather, Max Hewitt, said he was shocked when told the news on Friday night.

"It's a big surprise," he said.

"We're trying to find out what happened: we have no idea what went wrong."

Clijsters' father Leo told reporters in Belgium he would not comment on the break-up of the pair who first met at the 2000 Australian Open.

Rumours in recent months suggested some internal strife between the Clijsters and Hewitt mothers over the actual location of the February wedding, according to international agencies.

Hewitt, 23, had withdrawn from the Madrid Masters tennis tournament last week citing personal reasons.

He had been holidaying in Darwin with close friend and Adelaide Crows footballer Andrew McLeod.

© 2004 AAP

Socket
10-23-2004, 01:07 PM
I'd guess he went to Paris early mostly to avoid having his home staked out by the Aussie press. He can deal with the press in a more controlled manner in Paris.

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 01:34 PM
Or maybe he's trying to work things out (paris is very close to the belge border)

NOMAD
10-23-2004, 01:50 PM
Rift over wedding plans led to split
By Matthew Benns and Eddie Fitzmaurice in London
October 24, 2004
The Sun-Herald


Tensions between Lleyton Hewitt's parents and fiancee Kim Clijsters over wedding plans are believed to be behind the split between the two former world No.1 tennis players.

Belgian newspaper reporters maintained that their sources said a rift had developed between 21-year-old Clijsters and Hewitt's father Glynn and mother Cherilyn over the plans for two wedding ceremonies - one in Belgium, the other in Australia - in February.

Yesterday, Hewitt's grandmother Dawn Hewitt was anxious to know what had caused the split.

Mrs Hewitt said at her Adelaide home: "I want to know what's behind it. I loved her too, she was so nice and they were so good together and it just breaks your heart. This has just come out of the blue.

"It is very sad. Who knows what happens between two people?"

She said Glynn Hewitt had called her with the news. "I am just hoping Lleyton is all right. He is with Andrew McLeod in Darwin, having a bit of a rest."

McLeod, who plays for AFL club the Adelaide Crows, was with Hewitt, 23, when Clijsters rang him on Thursday night to say the wedding was off.

Reports last night said Hewitt had cancelled plans of attending an Adelaide 36ers NBL game and instead flown to Paris, where he is to play in the Masters tennis tournament starting November 1.

Hewitt had pulled out of last week's tennis tournament in Madrid citing personal reasons.

Friends told the media Hewitt was "angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught".

"He's been kicked in the guts, and he's been kicked in the guts internationally and embarrassingly. He had a few warning signs but when it came, it came as a huge shock," one friend said.

Another of Hewitt's friends told the press that the split had come "totally out of the blue, out of left field".

"There were some signs she might have cold feet about the wedding after the US Open, but then he thought everything was OK," the friend said.

A statement on Clijsters' website said the split was mutual and added: "Private reasons compelled the couple to end their relationship.

"Both of us distance ourselves from the malicious gossip which inevitably surfaces in this kind of situation."

Reports in Belgium said a rift had developed between Clijsters and Hewitt's parents.

Nico van Hay, assistant sports editor at the Brussels-based De Standaard newspaper, said: "There is no talk of Kim being involved with any third party, but we are hearing that there may have been some problems with his parents.

"Nobody is sure how deep the divisions were, but it is claimed that Kim was not getting on very well with some of Hewitt's family in Australia."

At Wimbledon this year the rift in the four-year romance was obvious. Clijsters did not sit with Hewitt's ever-present parents in the players' personal box. Out of the public eye she chose to take her meals at a separate table, away from the Hewitts.

Rumours were rife of a rift between Clijsters and Hewitt's mother over the wedding plans and during Wimbledon reports appeared in British newspapers about the increasingly strained relationship.

To appease their parents the young couple were planning to have the two wedding ceremonies - one in Hewitt's home town of Adelaide and another in a Belgian chateau.

But a few weeks ago Clijsters called her Belgian wedding dress designer and told him to put the dress on hold.

He is reported to have told her he would leave the half-finished dress on the rack ready for when she married someone else.

She spent yesterday being comforted by her mother Els and father Lei, a former Belgian soccer star, at the home she built to share with Hewitt just 100 metres from her parents' home, in the village of Opitter in north-east Belgium.

NOMAD
10-23-2004, 02:36 PM
Hewitt distraught at split
By Ian Haberfield, Ben English and Rosanne Michie
October 24, 2004

LLEYTON Hewitt has told friends of his heartbreak and shock when fiancee Kim Clijsters dumped him.

Clijsters, 21, phoned Hewitt on Thursday night to end their five-year relationship without giving a reason.

On Friday she posted a brief statement on her website announcing the split.

But reports from Belgium say the injured star cancelled her wedding dress weeks ago.

Last night a distraught Hewitt was believed to have fled overseas.

"He's angry, embarrassed, devastated, distraught - all of that stuff," .a friend of Hewitt's said.

"He's been kicked in the guts and he's been kicked in the guts internationally and embarrassingly.

"He had a few warning signs but when it came it came as a huge shock.

"There were some signs she might have cold feet about the wedding after the US Open but then he thought everything was OK," the friend said.

Dress Designer Nicky Vankets, who was to make Clijsters' wedding dress, said he had known for more than a week but was not allowed to tell anyone.

Friends of Hewitt said the Aussie star had some inkling all was not well but were floored when Clijsters ended their engagement over the phone.

Hewitt, 23, withdrew from the Madrid Masters tournament this week, citing unspecified personal reasons.

He has been holidaying in Darwin this week with his friend Adelaide footballer Andrew McLeod.

Early yesterday, Hewitt was relaxing with mates at Darwin's Discovery nightclub.

Hewitt partied in the VIP section of the club, a private bar overlooking the main dance floor, in the city's main entertainment strip in Mitchell St.

Hewitt was due back in Adelaide last night to attend a 36ers basketball match but he phoned coach Phil Smythe to say he couldn't make it and had to get out of the country.

Instead he is believed to have flown straight to Paris.

Differences between the two mothers about the makeup of the wedding party and its location are rumoured to be behind the split.

Clijsters is said to have been suffering stress in helping with wedding arrangements in two countries as well as coping with the anxiety of a wrist injury which has ruined her tennis year.

One Adelaide friend said "there has been a lot of trouble over who was going to be in the wedding party".

Another friend said Hewitt was "doing pretty well in the circumstances" and was slowly coming to the realisation it is better the split happened now rather after they were married.

"He doesn't know if there is anyone else involved but Lleyton certainly isn't seeing anyone else," he said.

"He doesn't know if things got too much for her."

Friends say the Hewitt family thinks a reconciliation unlikely because of the "cold" way Clijsters ended the relationship.

"He (Lleyton) doesn't know if a reconciliation is possible but he doesn't hold out a lot of hope," a friend said.

Lleyton's grandfather Max Hewitt, who was speaking from his home, at Glengowrie in SA, was shocked after hearing the news.

"We've only just found out, it's a big surprise," he said.

"We are trying to find out what happened, we have no idea what went wrong."

Hewitt was due to fly from Darwin to Paris yesterday – a flight originally booked so he could meet up with Clijsters in her home town of Bree, 80km east of Brussels.

Instead, Hewitt will spend the next week in France preparing for the Paris Masters next month.

Meanwhile, Clijsters has been visiting night clubs and shops near her home in the past two weeks.

Yesterday, her father Leo appeared in the driveway of the gated family home saying only that his daughter had no intention of speaking to the press.

Speaking outside the family home, he said: "Its private - between Lleyton and Kim," he said,

"She has not spoken to anybody in Belgium about it."

However, Mr Clijsters revealed he had spoken to Hewitt on Friday afternoon, nearly 24 hours after his daughter announced the split.

Clijsters has been seen driving her yellow Porche 4WD around the area, sometimes dropping into the village for a waffle with her sister, Elke.

Tennis insiders said yesterday Kim Clijsters decision to end her relationship with Lleyton Hewitt may have been coming for months.

Many had thought it strange when Clijsters did not take her customary position alongside Hewitt's mum Cherilyn and dad Glynn at either Wimbledon or the US Open.

Friends of Hewitt describe Clijsters as a lovely person but with a fondness for "control".

"Now there's a cocktail for you ... when you throw in Cherilyn and Glynn. I think there were issues with them, although they always seemed to support her," one friend said.

Hewitt's Davis Cup teammate Todd Woodbridge says he was shocked to hear of the split.

"I'm staggered to hear that news," he said yesterday.

"It was one out of left field for me. I hadn't foreseen anything like that happening.

"It's a shock. If there's anything you'd say perhaps it would just be the distance that was between them at times. Although they managed to keep a really strong relationship together.

"Kim was front row at the Davis Cup last year cheering like she was a full blown citizen here."

The former lovers may not come face-to-face until the Australian Open in January but that will only occur if Clijsters recovers from her wrist injury.

Tennis' glamour couple were to be married in Adelaide in February with another celebration later at a Belgian chateau.

Two wedding ceremonies had been planned to satisfy the wishes of parents Glynn and Cherilyn Hewitt and Clijsters' parents Leo and Els.

Hewitt proposed to Clijsters aboard a Sydney Harbour cruise last year, presenting her with an impressive diamond solitaire ring.

The two former No. 1 tennis players have been together for almost five years.

They met at the Australian Open in 2000 when Kim's sister Elke asked her to get Hewitt's autograph.

Sunday Herald Sun

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 03:12 PM
Hewitt was seen relaxing with friends in Darwin's Discovery nightclub early yesterday just hours after it was announced his engagement was over.

Drinking mostly bottled water, he stayed at the nightclub until 3.30am and was seen laughing and chatting to friends and other patrons. :confused:

When approached by The Sunday Mail, Hewitt was calm and polite but would not comment on the break-up.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11164921%255E902,00.html

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 03:16 PM
And more details....


One Adelaide friend said "there has been a lot of trouble over who was going to be in the wedding party".

Another friend said Hewitt was "doing pretty well in the circumstances" and was slowly coming to the realisation it is better the split happened now rather after they were married.

"He doesn't know if there is anyone else involved but Lleyton certainly isn't seeing anyone else," he said.

"He doesn't know if things got too much for her."

Friends say the Hewitt family thinks a reconciliation unlikely because of the "cold" way Clijsters ended the relationship. :sad:

"He (Lleyton) doesn't know if a reconciliation is possible but he doesn't hold out a lot of hope," a friend said.

Friends of Hewitt describe Clijsters as a lovely person but with a fondness for "control".

"Now there's a cocktail for you ... when you throw in Cherilyn and Glynn. I think there were issues with them, although they always seemed to support her," one friend said.

Socket
10-23-2004, 03:32 PM
Well . . . I'm beginning to think that it's best that Lleyton is rid of her sooner rather than later. If she couldn't summon up the courage to talk to him in person after a four-plus year relationship and accepting his proposal (not to mention what must be close to a million dollars, if not more, in jewelry, including that huge engagement ring), then she's much less of a person than I had thought. No amount of difficulty over wedding plans, or difficult in-laws, can justify her conduct. Mature adults get through problems like that. I had always thought that Kim was mature beyond her years. Obviously, I was wrong.

Knockers LaBroad
10-23-2004, 03:46 PM
Do you really believe what they are writing??

BTW, Lleyton was in Belgium after DC (and the week after Hasselt) for Els 40th birthday party.

mitalidas
10-23-2004, 03:59 PM
I am going to reserve comment on LLeyton and Kim until I am sure that the "true" story comes out --which of course may be never given these two and their phobia for the media

Crazy_Fool
10-23-2004, 04:08 PM
I don't know whether this story is totally true....BUT i really don't think they would just make it up out of the blue, there must be some truth in it. We will probably never find out the truth of this, but tbh if its true then what Socket says is totally true, I just hope this isn't really the case.

Having said that it could have happened, my cousin went out with this guy for 3 years, then all of a sudden it was over, finished over the phone, so it is possible, but i thought Kim would be more of a person than that.

Bibi
10-23-2004, 04:24 PM
Actually, I'm glad Lleyton decided to fly to Paris. He's going to be able to put it all in perspective a bit (without having to run for the press all the time), maybe he and Kim can have a talk together in person - maybe this is all a big misunderstanding.

Knockers LaBroad are you sure Lleyton was in Belgium after Hasselt, because that makes it even more strange ... (or maybe they decided to split at that time???).

But we can guess all we want, the only 2 persons that know what really happened are Kim & Lleyton. And I'm sure they must have had a really good reason to split (surely when you have been dating for such a long time - and there never seemed to be a problem).

Anouk10
10-23-2004, 04:57 PM
it's shocking, and i'm actually kinda disappointed in Kim for this. all the stories are pointing in the same direction: Kim called Lleyton to say it is over, and Lleyton didn't expect it. it would've been better if they talked about it face-to-face.

but yeah, that's my opinion.

Gaga
10-23-2004, 05:08 PM
pppppppppppppppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff i'm very sad for lley ,??? kim ???

aylena19
10-23-2004, 08:58 PM
this can't really happening.It's just a bad dream!!!

and i don't believe at these voices at all.Kim is a great person, she couldn't do that on phone, it's just a gossip by the media!!it's clearly impossible, after five years!!

Jess
10-23-2004, 10:00 PM
Do you really believe what they are writing??

BTW, Lleyton was in Belgium after DC (and the week after Hasselt) for Els 40th birthday party.

Well that would explain a lot then wouldn't it? If he was in Belgium then they would have had a chance to discuss things, talked about problems and probably the split became inevitable then. It would certainly explain his rather odd performance in Tokyo.

Socket
10-23-2004, 11:15 PM
Well that would explain a lot then wouldn't it? If he was in Belgium then they would have had a chance to discuss things, talked about problems and probably the split became inevitable then. It would certainly explain his rather odd performance in Tokyo.

I think that it they had agreed to split up when he was in Belgium, it would explain Lleyton's performance in Tokyo, but why would they then wait until this week to annouce it? If anything, it sounds as if Lleyton left Belgium thinking everything was OK. And if Kim was still having doubts, why couldn't she have waited until he came back to Europe to talk to him again? He's been scheduled to play Paris for weeks now, and she knew that.

I hate to say this, but it looks like she wanted the news to become public BEFORE Lleyton came back to Europe.

Murkofan
10-23-2004, 11:53 PM
It's Kim's fault, she broke his heart! It's Lleyton's fault, he wanted to club with his friends too much!

Blah blah fucking fishcakes.

I don't know (or care) if Lleyton didn't want the breakup or was surprised by it. If everything was good between them, there would be no breakup, and it takes two people to make things good. Since we seem determined to place blame, I split it 50-50 between both of them. End of story.

lleyki4eva
10-24-2004, 12:56 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11164921%255E902,00.html

I just want to know, when was the picture taken?
I've never seen it before

Socket
10-24-2004, 01:44 AM
I just want to know, when was the picture taken?
I've never seen it before

Lleyton certainly looks appropriately sad in this photo, but notice how short his hair is. And I don't see his goatee of the last few years. It's probably just a file photo.

forestandcloud
10-24-2004, 07:44 AM
I have seen things happen where two people split up because they don't love each other or one doesn't love the other anymore. But I've never heard young couples break up just because others' family members are annoying! It sounds even more weird that a bride-to-be calls off a wedding simply because she's stressed out preparing it!

The way kimmy did it seemed to be really devastating to Lleyton. She made her decision public by posting it on her personal website before lleyton got the chance to talk to her in person. (He is flying there this week).I don't think there are many things in the world that can make nice-looking kimmy so "out of mind"! I would guess Lleyton had done something that hurt her so much that she decided to put an end to their relationship at once! And the thing that made our nice kimmy so angry was likely to be that Lleyton kind of betrayed her in some way(eg. he's going out with someone else)

jule
10-24-2004, 08:33 AM
Maybe she really wanted i to become puplic before she sees lleyts in person! She probably had doubts on the wedding and made her decision to split up. Then she told lleyton and put it on her website immediately afterwards so that it is difficult to take her decision back! Because i think that it is very difficult now, to take the decision back! It is in the news all over he world!

I’m sorry guys :sad: , but i don’t think that they will get back together! Even if i wish them to but this would be a very hard way! Especially because kim has really hurt lleyton in public if the articles are true (well i don’t think that they are totally true, but maybe something in it is right!) and i don’t think that he forgives her easily because i just don’t think that he is the type of person.

donna
10-24-2004, 11:57 AM
I have to agree with you on that one Jule as much as I want them to get back together I just don't see it happening (god it hurts saying that). :sad: The only thing that I hope is that they at least talk to each other face to face. Ending it over the phone (whoever it was) is really bad considering they had been together for almost 5 years and were about to be married.

Socket
10-24-2004, 01:17 PM
I have seen things happen where two people split up because they don't love each other or one doesn't love the other anymore. But I've never heard young couples break up just because others' family members are annoying! It sounds even more weird that a bride-to-be calls off a wedding simply because she's stressed out preparing it!

The way kimmy did it seemed to be really devastating to Lleyton. She made her decision public by posting it on her personal website before lleyton got the chance to talk to her in person. (He is flying there this week).I don't think there are many things in the world that can make nice-looking kimmy so "out of mind"! I would guess Lleyton had done something that hurt her so much that she decided to put an end to their relationship at once! And the thing that made our nice kimmy so angry was likely to be that Lleyton kind of betrayed her in some way(eg. he's going out with someone else)

It's already been denied that either one of them was seeing someone else while they were engaged, so let's stop talking about that before it grows into a rumor.

Andrew.
10-24-2004, 01:31 PM
Ugh that's too bad. I always thought they were a good couple.

NOMAD
10-24-2004, 03:48 PM
I know these news probably not true,but I post it anywayin case someone interests to know.

Lleyton searches for the answers
By BEN ENGLISH in Belgium and BRONWYN HURRELL
25oct04
HEARTBROKEN Lleyton Hewitt is not expected to seek a face-to-face showdown with former fiancee Kim Clijsters in Europe over her sudden dumping of the tennis ace.

But he is believed to be heading overseas as he searches for answers to the shock end to their relationship.

Hewitt, 23, is due to begin preparation for matches at the Paris Tennis Masters next week, but has ducked for cover after Clijsters announced the split to the world on her website.

The former world No. 1 remains mystified over the reasons Clijsters, 21, called off their wedding via a phone call last Thursday, when he was holidaying in the Northern Territory with close friend, Adelaide Crows player Andrew McLeod.

A reported rift between Hewitt's mother Cherilyn and Clijsters over wedding guest lists and the bridal party was not thought to be the main trigger.









Friends say Clijsters is a complex character and there had been no explanation from her.

They added that cracks in the relationship began to surface during the Hopman Cup in Perth earlier this year.

McLeod, in Darwin, refused to shed any light on his friend's situation. Wife Rachel McLeod, in Adelaide, said she was close friends with both parties and did not think "they would appreciate" her discussing their relationship breakdown.

Hewitt's best friend Hayden Eckermann is by his mate's side but his mother Judy said yesterday the situation had been "painful" for Hewitt.

Kim Clijsters' home town of Bree has rallied around its hero as she last night remained holed inside her sprawling brick home.

Local police said both Kim and her father, Leo, were "gods in this town" and the town was protective of the Clijsters family.

"Everyone here is hurting and the whole town will do whatever we can to help them through this time," a spokesman said.

"It's a very small community and very protective, especially of the Clijsters family."

Mr Clijsters was clearly agitated by the presence of media outside his home, at one time threatening reporters that he would resort to physical violence if they remained in the vicinity.

Clijsters lives diagonally opposite her parents' home, just outside Bree, about 80km east of Brussels.

Her sister, Elke, visited her at 10am yesterday and spent five hours at her home.

Their mother, Els, joined them for two hours, before Elke and Mrs Clijsters left for Elke's apartment down the road.

The Belgian reception venue where the nuptials were to be held had earlier confirmed they received a call from Mr Clijsters on Thursday night cancelling the booking.

Tony Robyns, who runs the St Paul Restaurant, in the nearby town of Lummen, said Mr Clijsters seemed shattered by the breakdown. "He seemed very sad and dejected," he said

Socket
10-24-2004, 04:00 PM
Boy, has this been handled horribly. They really needed to get on top of this situation from the start, and issue some kind of joint press statement that they had mutually agreed to end their engagement and remain the best of friends, blah, blah, blah. All that dead-of-night posting on her web site did was fuel the press fire. When you don't control the press, all that happens is that they end up talking to the police, the restaurant owner, the dress designer, the best friend's mother, etc., and those folks will eventually spill what they know, or think they know.

Angele
10-24-2004, 04:20 PM
I agree with you Marlene. It was all handled horribly, from the message on Kim's website to the quotes from Lleyton's friends and grand parents. The split, for the moment, is so strange that there's no way the press aren't going to gossip. I mean they've been dating for almost 5 years, are 4 months from the wedding, and suddenly Kim calls it quit. The way they left it the press are going to try to find an explanation. Both Kim and Lei know enough about the press that they had to see all of this coming. And I can't imagine this is the sort of thing they wanted. It's just all so strange :sad:

Murkofan
10-24-2004, 04:33 PM
They've all been taken over by pod people! :eek:

Jess
10-24-2004, 04:42 PM
Cracks were beginning to show at last years Hopman Cup?!!! - do cracks really begin to show about three weeks after you get engaged! Sounds a tad unlikely.

star
10-24-2004, 04:52 PM
Sometimes people get engaged/married because there are problems in the relationship and doing something appearing positive... i.e. and engagement or a marriage seems to be the way to draw the couple together. Maybe Lleyton on some level felt Kim slipping away, and proposed to draw her closer to him.

This is pure speculation.

But I have seen it happen many times that seemingly happy couples fall apart after marriage. Just think about Brooke Shields and Andre Agassi. They were very much in love for two or three years. They got married, and things went south in a big hurry.

Bibi
10-24-2004, 05:10 PM
Then it just doesn't seem right they (esp. Kim) were always so positive when it came to the wedding plans (even in Hasselt 2 or 3 weeks ago she was still happy and all).

But I think we'll never know what really happened and caused the break. I just hope they had a good reason (and I'm sure of that) for it and not something silly as the guest list or something like that.
=> I also heard an interview with Nicky Vankets on the television, and it's not that he knew about putting the dress on hold for weeks. He was talking about days (if I heard it correctly).

Bibi
10-24-2004, 06:06 PM
I'm not sure where to post this, but Kim just updated her diary on her site (I thought maybe you guys want to know about it)

Waarom al die heisa? 24-10-2004

Ik was eigenlijk niet van plan te reageren op mijn breuk met Lleyton. Ik hoopte even voor mezelf tijd te hebben in deze moeilijke periode. Maar als ik zie wat er intussen verschijnt en hoe ik hier gevolgd word, vind ik dat ik daar even iets op moet zeggen.

Eerst en vooral wil ik de mensen bedanken die me in deze moeilijke omstandigheden een hart onder de riem steken met attentvolle brieven en berichtjes. Maar tegelijkertijd ben ik ernorm geschrokken van de media-heisa die er ontstaan is rond wat uiteindelijk louter een privé-aangelegenheid is.

Dat mensen willen weten dat onze relatie afgelopen is, dat begrijp ik en daarom hebben we beslist een kort persbericht te verspreiden. Al de rest is iets tussen ons, net zoals dat bij andere koppels die uiteengaan het geval is. Maar de roddels en gissingen die er intussen verschijnen, gaan me echt te ver.

Waar zijn we mee bezig als er journalisten voor mijn huis kamperen en mij en de rest van de familie beginnen volgen? Als er dingen worden gezegd over mijn mama of de mama van Lleyton? Als er intussen mensen menen te weten dat Lleyton of ik al iemand anders hebben, wat een grote leugen is? Na bijna 5 jaar uit elkaar gaan, lijkt me sowieso al pijnlijk en jammer genoeg, is het dan niet meer dan normaal dat we dat zelf even willen verwerken?

Waarom worden die gissingen tot nationaal nieuws gebombardeerd? Er zijn bij DHL meer dan duizend mensen die hun job dreigen te verliezen. Gisteren gebeurde er niet ver uit de buurt een verkeersongeval met twee dodelijke slachtoffers. Er zijn volgens mij heus wel belangrijkere dingen in dit land om over te schrijven dan een loutere privé-aangelegenheid zoals de onze.

Ik hoop dat iedereen voortaan een beetje respect en begrip kan opbrengen voor mezelf en de familie en dat de roddels ophouden. En dat jullie weer gewoon benieuwd zijn naar mijn pols en mijn tennis. Daar hou ik jullie in elk geval van op de hoogte.

Liefs,
Kim
English version follows

Why all the fuss???
Actually I wasn't planning on reacting on my break-up with Lleyton. I hoped to have some time to myself in this difficult period of time, but when I see what has been published and how I get 'stalked', I thought I had to react to that.

First of all, I wanted to thank the people that have tried to give me some good advice with thoughtfull letters & messages. But in the meantime I'm very shocked by all media attention that happened on a purely private matter.
That people want to know that our relationship is over, I can understand, so that's why we decided to spread a short press message. All the rest is between us, just like it is with all couples that split. But all the gossips & insinuations are going a bit to far.

What are we doing, when journalists are camping in front of my house and start following the rest of the family? Or when things are said about my mom & Lleytons mom? When there are people thinking they know that Lleyton or me having some else already, what's a bit lie? Spliting after almost 5 years, seems hard enough for me, and isn't it only normal that we try to deal with it ourselves?

Why are all these insinuations bombed to national news? There are more then a thousand people threatened to lose there jobs at DHL. Yesterday there was an accident, not far from here with 2 deadly victims.
There are more important things in this country then writing about a purely private thing like ours.

I hope everybody can start to show a little bit of respect and show a little bit of understanding for me and my family and that the gossips stop. And that you are just curious about my wrist & my tennis. This I'll keep you informed on.

Love,
Kim

Jess
10-24-2004, 06:10 PM
I think Kim is being extremely naieve. It would be nice if everyone just turned a blind eye and didn't comment on it but she must know that would never be the case.

Angele
10-24-2004, 06:14 PM
I think Kim is being extremely naieve. It would be nice if everyone just turned a blind eye and didn't comment on it but she must know that would never be the case.
I was just about to post that. I really feel bad for Kim that she's annoyed by all the media attention but she has to know a lot of it was brought on by her out of the blue middle of the night message on her website. She's dealt enough with the media to know they should jump on this. They'd have jumped on it even if the break up wasn't so weird but with the nature of it, she had to expect this.

star
10-24-2004, 06:15 PM
That's a bit disingenuous, if you ask me.

Just because the media is interested in her, doesn't mean they've forgotten all about all other news. She knows how much media interest there was in her and Lleyton. I can understand she doesn't want the attention right now, but be realistic. It's gonna happen. There was going to be a lot of media frenzy about the wedding and the breakup is no different.

Jess
10-24-2004, 06:16 PM
And also people care - we've all followed their careers over the years - does she not think that her fans and the media are going to speculate a little! The very strange totally out of the blue unexplained way she did it doesn't exactly help the cause either!

Goonergal
10-24-2004, 06:25 PM
I think Kim is being extremely naieve. It would be nice if everyone just turned a blind eye and didn't comment on it but she must know that would never be the case.
100% right. As bad (and wrong) as media intrusion is, as a high profile athelte when you call off a wedding (seemingly) out of the blue to an equally high profile athlete, media and especially the fans are gonna want to know what the hell happened.

Angele
10-24-2004, 06:28 PM
Throw in the fact that Lleyton and Kim haven't seen each other for weeks so the break up must have happened over the phone. Like Cilla said, she can't except people not to ask questions. The media want to know because they want a juicy story, want to sell papers but her fans are talking about it because they care and want to know what ruined a seemingly happen and perfect couple.

mitalidas
10-24-2004, 06:41 PM
I hope they move on wiht no difficulties. They are both nice people, and I did not realize how much I liked them until they broke things off --I really feel bad about it.

Now that the Scud has gone after the trash, maybe Lleyton and Delta will find comfort with each other :)

-- in time, I mean. After they are over their respective exes (whose dumping they found out about on the phone, or the internet

Hagar
10-24-2004, 06:45 PM
I was just about to post that. I really feel bad for Kim that she's annoyed by all the media attention but she has to know a lot of it was brought on by her out of the blue middle of the night message on her website. She's dealt enough with the media to know they should jump on this. They'd have jumped on it even if the break up wasn't so weird but with the nature of it, she had to expect this.

I agree. It would be better if they give a reason. We don't want to know how many times a week they had sex but we want to know whether it is the family, loss of passion when things became serious, a third party,...
I'm pretty sure that if Kim does not give a reason, she will be haunted during every press conference about this break up.

Jess
10-24-2004, 06:47 PM
Exactly - she doesn't have to give a personal and specific reason, just a vague, "we drifted apart" , "we wanted different things" would do!

star
10-24-2004, 06:50 PM
Except no one is going to believe the "we drifted apart" story. :p

She should have done the ....... wedding postponed....... looking for a little distance in our relationship to work out some things. ... very difficult when on different continents.... give us some space to work things out in our own way.....

And then in 2 months, she could have called the whole thing off.

Iheartandy&roger
10-24-2004, 07:19 PM
K yea who is gunna believe that story I mean who drifts apart so fast and abruptly unless they have been having problems for awhile but never said anything whatever though it's their business and hopefully they will get back together and best of luck to the both of them! they were a nice couple too...

Bibi
10-24-2004, 08:34 PM
Yes, but I think, if they give a reason for there break up, people (read: press) are always going to want to know more. They're never going to be satisfied, untill they have there juicy parts.

I just hope Kim & Lleyton will com much stronger out of this. If it's not together, well then apart (and how bad i think it is, I just don't see them get back together anymore :sad: ).

Socket
10-24-2004, 08:48 PM
I think Kim is being extremely naieve. It would be nice if everyone just turned a blind eye and didn't comment on it but she must know that would never be the case.

You beat me to it. She's living in a fantasy world if she honestly thinks that the public would not be fascinated in this story. Frankly, I think she just now is realizing what a huge mistake she made by how she handled this and how badly she is coming off to the public.

Socket
10-24-2004, 09:01 PM
Exactly - she doesn't have to give a personal and specific reason, just a vague, "we drifted apart" , "we wanted different things" would do!

I don't think they even have to give that explicit a reason. They can simply say that they mutally decided to break off their engagement for personal reasons, and wish each other all the best in the future.

When you get out front with this kind of news, by issuing a press statement, it's true that that won't STOP the press from trying to talk to everyone and making all kinds of speculation, but it allows you to play offense, rather than defense, which is what Kim (and, unfortunately, poor Lleyton) is playing right now.

ally_014
10-25-2004, 05:18 AM
I agree with everyone! :p The media does go a bit over the top and intrude, but that is what they do, everyone knows that and Kim and Lei should've realised that and handled it better. I hope that it doesn't have a negative impact on Kim in the future though, being portrayed as the 'bad guy' in all of this; it's got to have had two sides. And I feel real sorry for both of them, it can't be easy suddenly being without the person that has been right there with you for 5 years, and hope that they can find happiness again, either with each other (although that doesn't seem likely given the circumstances) or with others.

Oh and mega-:rolleyes: at Flip. I mean, Paris Hilton...

^Sue^
10-25-2004, 11:19 AM
I THINK MAYBE KIM JUST GET FRUSTRATED?SHE'LL REGRET MAYBE...

Goonergal
10-25-2004, 03:30 PM
No one else, says Kim Clijsters
Ben English
26oct04

KIM Clijsters has denied speculation she dropped fiance Lleyton Hewitt for another man as she spoke for the first time of her heartbreak over their shock split.

In an open letter on her official website, Clisters refuted suggestions the break-up was caused by a new man or tension with Hewitt's mother Cherilyn as "one big lie".
"I have nobody else, and neither does Lleyton," she wrote.

Clijsters, who remains in her apartment in Bree, about 80km from Brussels, said the break-up was painful.

"After five years we are separating. It is very painful and sad but we have to solve the problem on our own.

"We don't have to share the problem with the press. I don't want to share my pain but I just want to stop the gossip."

Clijsters appealed to her fans and the wider public to place her grief in perspective.

She said her problems paled by comparison with other issues in Belgium, such as job losses and a car accident in her local area.

"There are worse things in life than the split," she said.

"I hope people can understand my situation and that the gossip stops and people focus instead on my tennis and my (injured) wrist."

Clijsters abruptly terminated her five-year relationship with Hewitt in a telephone call last Thursday night.

Just last month the couple and their parents had visited St Paul, the luxurious chateau restaurant where they planned to celebrate their nuptials next February.

NOMAD
10-27-2004, 05:31 AM
Hewitt will recover from break-up, says former team-mate
Former Australian Davis Cup player Scott Draper says he does not believe Lleyton Hewitt's form will be affected by his recent break-up with Belgian tennis star Kim Clijsters.

Clijsters announced on her official web site last Friday that the pair had called of their engagement ahead of their scheduled wedding in February.

Hewitt, currently ranked number three in the world, will play in next week's Paris Masters.

Draper said he was confident the break-up would not have an impact on Hewitt's performance.

"Lleyton's devastated about the whole thing and is a bit confused about what has really happened," he said.

"I don't think anyone knows, I'm not sure if Kim knows, no-one can get a hold of her.

"Lleyton is an unbelievable competitor and I don't think he's probably ever faced any real personal issue like this, but I'm sure he'll handle it fine, he's a true professional and a gutsy competitor."

Meanwhile, Draper said he doubted Mark Philippoussis would ever realise his potential in the sport.

The Wimbledon and US Open finalist has struggled for form this year and pulled out of this week's ATP event in Stockholm.

Draper said the 27-year-old Melburnian still had the talent to win a grand slam title, but he lacked the dedication.

"Mark is his own man, no-one is going to be telling him what he should or shouldn't be doing," he said.

"He's larger than life, he loves having a good time. Tennis has never been his number one priority. I don't think it ever will be, it's his life and his choice."

maxtheaxe
10-27-2004, 08:59 AM
This is getting boring. Bit like a post mortem. The Scud thing is topical, this is just a fact of life.

^Sue^
10-27-2004, 09:59 AM
I cannot believe that Kim and Hewitt "break up"......until now...so sad...

Socket
10-27-2004, 12:50 PM
Thanks for posting that article, Nomad. I'm really, really hoping that Scott is right. And BTW, I love that photo of Lleyton in your avatar. Get a load of those beautiful cheekbones!

NOMAD
10-27-2004, 04:14 PM
Thanks for posting that article, Nomad. I'm really, really hoping that Scott is right. And BTW, I love that photo of Lleyton in your avatar. Get a load of those beautiful cheekbones!

nice cheekbones and nice hair in that pic,isn't it?:angel:
Lleyton looks great in your avatar,too. ;)

I don't even wanna know what's the reasons of the break-up or anything about it by now.
As Lleyton is my favroite tennis player, I just want to make sure if he is all right after the break-up.
That's the only reason why I keep reading those newspapers.
It's just sad to hear that Lleyton being painful. :sad:
I really hope Lley find calm and peace soon after the break-up.
I hope Scott is right,too.It will be great to see him win after all of these things.

Mihret
10-27-2004, 04:20 PM
Hey, the guy who writes for Tennis Reporters, Matthew Cronin, on tennisreporters.net said something to defend Kim. He sais that: "knowing Clijsters, it was probably a lot more than family tensions that provoked her decision".
So there are still some objective reproters out there. There's a special report on the site but you can only get access if you're a member.

Socket
10-27-2004, 04:46 PM
My recollection is that Cronin has said some really, really nasty things about Lleyton in the past, so I'm not necessarily going to believe everything he has to say about Lleyton. Anyway, here's the members-only article you were talking about:

A source in the Kim Clijsters camp told TennisReporters.net that Lleyton Hewitt should have seen the break-up of their engagement coming.

"He's known for a while things haven't been good," the source said.

Clijsters was said to have thought long and hard about breaking off their four-year-plus relationship. Neither the 23-year-old Hewitt nor 21-year-old Clijsters have had another significant romantic relationship.

Hewitt allegedly told his friends he was devastated and Clijsters is said to be distraught, too. The source said that Hewitt's intense parents, Glynn and Cherilyn, played a role in Clijsters' decision to call off their February wedding and relationships off. However, Clijsters denied on her web site that their mothers were to blame. Apparently, there were numerous issues in play on both sides, which is normal in any long-term relationship.

Here's what a clearly upset Clijsters said, "Some of the gossip that is appearing just go beyond certain values. What is wrong with journalists if they spend the night camping outside my house? If they start following me and the rest of my family? If they start insinuating things about my mother or Lleyton's? If they think to know that both Lleyton and I already have someone else (which is a big lie anyway)? Splitting up after nearly five years isn't easy and painful as it is already, isn't it not normal we want to come to terms with it ourselves? Why is all this gossip turned into national news? At DHL more than thousand people are about to lose their job. Not that far from here a two people were killed in a deadly accident. I firmly believe there are more important issues to write about than just the strictly private ones as ours. I sincerely hope that everybody will show some respect for me and my family and that these gossips will stop and that everyone is curious to find out about the wrist and my tennis." So there.

Mihret
10-27-2004, 06:35 PM
I think that what is a little bit sad is that it doesn't look like either of them knows what the real problem is. If we were to believe this last article, then the problem is not so bad and maybe they just need more time.
However, all the media attention is not going to help, especially if people other than Kim or Lleyton are the ones doing the talking. I don't think that Kim will appreciate Scott Draper saying that she probably doesn't know what is wrong and Lleyton probably won't appreciate anonymous members of the Clijsters camp saying that he should have known things were not right between them.

Thanks for the article by the way.

sprinterluck
11-03-2004, 03:02 PM
Here's a quote from the ATPTour Vice President of Media Relations about the Lleyki breakup. :sad:


By Jerry Magee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
November 2, 2004
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20041102-9999-lz1s2tenside.html

He was 'gutted'

More on the Kim Clijsters-Lleyton Hewitt breakup. Graeme Agars, an Australian who is an ATP Tour executive, passes on the take offered by John Alexander, a former tournament player from Australia.
"John was extraordinarily diplomatic, which was unusual for him," said Agars. "His feeling was that Kim had had such a miserable six months, with her wrist injury, coming back and finding she still couldn't play, her differences with Henin-Hardenne and her differences with Hewitt's family, that she just got tired of it. It was Kim who cut it off. Hewitt, I understand, was quite gutted by it."

aurelie7800
11-05-2004, 07:40 PM
I was watching Lleyton/Marat on french TV & Radio and they both said that Lleyton's new girlfriend was Tatiana Golovin.
personally, I can't believe it. what do you think about it ?

Socket
11-05-2004, 08:01 PM
I was watching Lleyton/Marat on french TV & Radio and they both said that Lleyton's new girlfriend was Tatiana Golovin.
personally, I can't believe it. what do you think about it ?
Since Lleyton is no longer engaged, he can date whomever he wants, and I hope he enjoys himself and finds someone compatible and supportive to love.

Both he and Kim have denied that they were involved with another while they were engaged, and I take them both at their word.

Mihret
11-05-2004, 08:47 PM
This is weird because French television usually has very competent commentators such as Guy Forget, Henry Leconte, Jean-Paul Lott, etc and they very rarely make remarks about the private life of a player. If they do, it's very insignificant. I very much doubt that this story is true.
Which channel did you watch the match on?

kimberlleyton
11-05-2004, 09:31 PM
This is weird because French television usually has very competent commentators such as Guy Forget, Henry Leconte, Jean-Paul Lott, etc and they very rarely make remarks about the private life of a player. If they do, it's very insignificant. I very much doubt that this story is true.
Which channel did you watch the match on?

Hello, this is my first post in this forum. I am sorry to confirm that the French Channel TV (Sport +) said Lleyton date with Golovin.( I don't appreciate her :sad: ). Some people also said they have this relation ship since Tokyo Tounament.

kim-fan
11-05-2004, 09:34 PM
well, only because that commentator said they are dating, doesn't mean it's true, right?

Crazy_Fool
11-05-2004, 09:41 PM
Since Lleyton is no longer engaged, he can date whomever he wants, and I hope he enjoys himself and finds someone compatible and supportive to love.

Both he and Kim have denied that they were involved with another while they were engaged, and I take them both at their word.
Exactly, at the end of the day life is too short, go for it Lleyton :D

kimberlleyton
11-05-2004, 09:42 PM
well, only because that commentator said they are dating, doesn't mean it's true, right?

Fortunately not. But most of Belgian people think it's the truth. I read their comments on french forum, they don't have any doubts. Kim is not either the "nasty girl" who broke by phone.

aurelie7800
11-05-2004, 09:43 PM
yes i was on Sport +. French commentators are close of French players so it might be true. I appreciate her, she's pretty nice. I think that Lleyton'd spend some good time with her. And she's prettier than Kim :-) :-)

kim-fan
11-05-2004, 09:45 PM
yes i was on Sport +. French commentators are close of French players so it might be true. I appreciate her, she's pretty nice. I think that Lleyton'd spend some good time with her. And she's prettier than Kim :-) :-)

it's not all about looks in a relationship

aurelie7800
11-05-2004, 09:48 PM
I know, I know :eek: :eek:
:worship:

Mihret
11-05-2004, 10:04 PM
I'm sorry but I still find this report very hard to believe. Hewitt is the kind of guy who likes to keep his privaye life private. I very much doubt that he would have asked any "new love interest" to come and watch one of his matches so soon after the announcement of his broken engagement to Kim Clijsters!
Can you tell me under what circumstances they mentioned that Tatiana Golovin and him were an item? Maybe they just ment it as a joke because she said that she thought both Safin and Hewitt were cute...

kimberlleyton
11-05-2004, 10:44 PM
Can you tell me under what circumstances they mentioned that Tatiana Golovin and him were an item? Maybe they just ment it as a joke because she said that she thought both Safin and Hewitt were cute...

They seems serious when they said that. But they are French and they love Golovin, so they hope for romance. Tennis' seasons fnish very soon, so they search from news to have something to say.



Off topic, but I really want to say I love this board because most of you try to be objectives and you put yourself a lot of questions before arriving to conclusions. It is different in French's Forum about Kim, where the people catch fire too quickly and have a different opinions all the 5 minutes according to the newspaper items.

aurelie7800
11-05-2004, 10:49 PM
the meeting hehehehe ???? :::

http://www.lleytonhewitt.biz/images/tokyo04/opening.jpg

sprinterluck
11-06-2004, 01:19 AM
If what the French commentator allegedly said is true, then that is a stupid move by Hewitt to invite Golovin there and his PR people should know better especially after the Paris H.-Philippoussis-Delta debacle. The Aussie press would have a field day: Hewitt and Philippoussis--The Cads.
I for one never believed the stories about bad Kim dumping Lleyton by phone without giving a reason. That's just so uncharacteristic, esp after such a long relationship. Also Lleyton pulled out of Madrid for "personal reasons" days before the alleged call from Kim so he must have known something was going on. The cold feet could've come from Lleyton's end--we'll never really know.

RaRaChick
11-06-2004, 01:51 PM
Hey Kimberlleyton :wavey: welcome to LLL! :kiss:

RaRaChick
11-06-2004, 02:32 PM
In a celebrity gossip magazine over here they said Delta Goodrem has been spotted with Brian McFadden from Westlife :eek:

Thats nothing to do with Lleyton and Kim, but I found it hard to believe :)

budgirlbz
11-06-2004, 02:54 PM
OMG, I am so shocked! I haven't been in this site in a long time and I was so surprised that this happen! I feel so sad! I hope they find a way back to each other in the end!

RaRaChick
11-06-2004, 02:59 PM
Think we all feel the same :)

Welcome back btw :kiss: Don't think we've met, I'm Nicole :wavey:

kimberlleyton
11-06-2004, 03:11 PM
Hey Kimberlleyton :wavey: welcome to LLL! :kiss:

Thanks a lot RaRaChick. Irea this board since a very long time, but i don't post because of my level of english

kimberlleyton
11-06-2004, 03:13 PM
oh my god, i want to write "I read this board ..."

buddyholly
11-06-2004, 03:17 PM
Thanks a lot RaRaChick. Irea this board since a very long time, but i don't post because of my level of english


Keep posting. I read your posts in a French accent and it sounds great to me.

~EMiLiTA~
11-06-2004, 03:18 PM
If what the French commentator allegedly said is true, then that is a stupid move by Hewitt to invite Golovin there and his PR people should know better especially after the Paris H.-Philippoussis-Delta debacle. The Aussie press would have a field day: Hewitt and Philippoussis--The Cads.
I for one never believed the stories about bad Kim dumping Lleyton by phone without giving a reason. That's just so uncharacteristic, esp after such a long relationship. Also Lleyton pulled out of Madrid for "personal reasons" days before the alleged call from Kim so he must have known something was going on. The cold feet could've come from Lleyton's end--we'll never really know.

yes, I tend to agree with you there...just have to wait and see I guess...

kimberlleyton
11-06-2004, 03:35 PM
Keep posting. I read your posts in a French accent and it sounds great to me.

Thanks
You make me happy :kiss: but you don't reassure me on my level of English :ignore: .

buddyholly
11-06-2004, 03:45 PM
Thanks
You make me happy :kiss: but you don't reassure me on my level of English :ignore: .

Meilleur que mon francais. J'adore lire le menu de Troisgros en Roanne.

Mihret
11-06-2004, 04:14 PM
Let's all keep a cool head here. There is absolutely no way Lleyton Hewitt is dating Tatiana Golovin. His engagement has just been called off. The commentators on Sport plus are not the closest to the players. If I remember correctly the likes of Guy Forget,etc usually comment for Eurosport and France2. They are probably just fantasizing.

Hagar
11-06-2004, 05:37 PM
Golovin & Lleyton? Oh god, let that not be true. I think she likes the spotlight and that does not seem like his kind of girl to me.

kimberlleyton
11-06-2004, 06:02 PM
Golovin & Lleyton? Oh god, let that not be true. I think she likes the spotlight and that does not seem like his kind of girl to me.

as you, I really hope that it is not the truth.

I totally agree with you opinion of Golovin (however I am French) but maybe Lleyton needs to live the experience for the knowledge. At first, when we break, we don't look for a person identical to the one that we have just left, but rather the opposite to pass in the other thing and forget.

I don't appreciate Golovin, she wants to be a star and she wants to be under spoligth and nothing will stop her.

Bibi
11-06-2004, 06:05 PM
Hello, this is my first post in this forum. I am sorry to confirm that the French Channel TV (Sport +) said Lleyton date with Golovin.( I don't appreciate her :sad: ). Some people also said they have this relation ship since Tokyo Tounament.
I just can't believe this :sad: I mean he can't be over his relationship with Kim, can he?? I just think he (and Kim) both need to take some time alone, before starting a new relationship.

Mihret
11-06-2004, 06:07 PM
Hey, I speak French, do you remember the words that they used when they talked about her? I know I'm asking a lot but I just cannot believe that they would put those two players in such a situation. There has got to be another explanation. Can you imagine being an up-and-comer and having to wear the tag of a girl who's dating a guy who's just announced his cancelled wedding?!

Bibi
11-06-2004, 06:08 PM
the meeting hehehehe ???? :::

http://www.lleytonhewitt.biz/images/tokyo04/opening.jpg
Ok, and now a very stupid question ... is it the Golovin the girl with the black sweater or the other one.
I'm my modest opinion, I don't neither one of them looks extremely stunning, but then again, taste's vary (or how do you say that in English???)

lilo
11-06-2004, 06:19 PM
Hello Bibi!
don't worry, it's not a stupid question. Tatiana Golovin isn't that famous(yet)
yes,she is the one with the black sweater,the other girl is Maria Sharapova.

kim-fan
11-06-2004, 06:25 PM
I think it is non of our business, he can date whoever he wants

kimberlleyton
11-06-2004, 07:38 PM
I think it is non of our business, he can date whoever he wants

Sure,
I am big fan of Lleyton above all. I saw him played yesterday against Safin and fight up to the last point and that's the reason why I am a fan.
But, also, I have the right to regret KIM.
I would not change my opinion on a girl player just because she dates with Lleyton.
But I agree, he can date whoever he wants. And I think that nobody says the opposite. We can appreciate or not. That's all. Without back thought.

Max
11-06-2004, 07:38 PM
Ok, and now a very stupid question ... is it the Golovin the girl with the black sweater or the other one.
I'm my modest opinion, I don't neither one of them looks extremely stunning, but then again, taste's vary (or how do you say that in English???)

i know this is off the topic a little, but she is hot!!! she has the best body (and she shows it off) usally in tiny little short, but it's hard to see her in that picture.

There is absolutely no way Lleyton Hewitt is dating Tatiana Golovin
i have to totally agree with you, this is so not true!

Socket
11-06-2004, 08:19 PM
Sure,
I am big fan of Lleyton above all. I saw him played yesterday against Safin and fight up to the last point and that's the reason why I am a fan.
I'm with you, Lleyton's fight-to-the-death attitude is what makes me his steadfast fan. Other players may have better forehands or harder serves, but nobody has a bigger heart.

Crazy_Fool
11-06-2004, 08:34 PM
I'm with you, Lleyton's fight-to-the-death attitude is what makes me his steadfast fan. Other players may have better forehands or harder serves, but nobody has a bigger heart.
Very well said Socket and kimberlleyton ;)

That is exactly what makes me a fan as well.

sprinterluck
11-06-2004, 08:54 PM
1)I like Lleyton's "fighting spirit" as Kim puts it. Despite the fact that he doesn't really have one big shot that blows opponents out of the water, he's got something bigger and better--HEART! I enjoyed watching him pressure Safin into making all those silly errors on match point. Safin really was feeling the heat. And Lleyton managed to get 2 sets points after that match point against him, although he wasn't able to convert. I've heard him being compared to Chang, Jimmy Connors and McEnroe in temperament and fighting spirit.
2) He's a thinker/strategist. He's smart and beats opponents even when he's not playing that well because he's uses his brain and has amazing memory for specific points.

NOMAD
11-07-2004, 10:37 AM
I'm so glad to know you guys :worship: .
Once I told a friend that I am a Lleyton fan,and she said "why?he is arrogant".She didn't even watch any tennis matches. :rolleyes:
I think a lot people just read the news papers or saw the movement of Lley on court,then thinks that Lley is an arrogant person.
He just so focuses on every points he played,and has the determination to win,but a lot people don't unaderstand that.I am really :worship: for knowing you guys understand Lley's wonderful personality as me.

Also :worship: for Lley,showing that you don't have the powerful forehand like Moya(or other good players ;) )and a big serve like Andy(even has a suck serve sometimes:p ) to be a top player.Because he always fights to the end.(although I prefer he will have better serve :p )I can't remember how many times that I thought he was going to lost ,but he fought back hard on every points to let himself get back into the match. :angel: I love to watch him play so much because it's more than tennis,his fight spirit always inspired and touched me. :angel:

~EMiLiTA~
11-07-2004, 10:47 AM
This is from the Sunday Times newspaper in Australia...I've just posted the first half of the article cos that's the most relevant part...the rest just talks about his match against Marat.

Why I had to leave Australia

"I just had to get out of Australia". In those eight words, spoken yesterday, Lleyton Hewitt finally addressed his inner turmoil over the split in his romance with Kim Clijsters.
It came after he had lost a crackling, vibrant, almost violent quarterfinal to Russian Marat Safin in the Paris Masters - a match of sometimes breathtaking quality which was seen as virtually being the final in this depleted tournament....
...Hewitt has shied away from all questions about his personal life and has been protected throughout this tournament by tennis officialdom from any questions about the breakdown of his marriage plans.
Yesterday that armour was unexpectedly pierced when he was asked why he had come to Paris so early to prepare for this tournament - one that really didn't matter since he already had qualified for Houston.
The question was: "you seem in a really good mood although you lost a tough game...you seemed to have a nice time here in Paris...do you like Paris more than other places maybe?"
Hewitt surprisingly replied: "I don't know about that but, you know, for me, I just had to get out of Australia, to tell you the truth. That's why I was in Paris early. I had nowhere else to practise so I thought I'd come here."
The press had been prevented all week from asking Hewitt anything about Clijsters or how her curious ending of their relationship might have affected his tennis.
Until yesterday Hewitt showed no signs of indicating his private life had any influence on his tennis.
Silence breathes rumours and it was noted that among those apparently cheering for Hewitt in his match against Safin was young French player Tatiana Golovin.
Golovin, who lives in Paris, is a major celebrity in France and the TV cameras focussed upon her. But people will talk.

Mihret
11-07-2004, 11:28 AM
Wonderful and now the rumour mill says that Kim Clijsters might be dating a teenage spanish player. I saw a picture of him. He's cute but let's be serious!!! It's amazing Clijsters and hewitt have found time to play tournaments and continue physiotherapy during the last three weeks with all the dating they're supposed to be doing according to the press!!!

riotgirl
11-07-2004, 12:02 PM
Wonderful and now the rumour mill says that Kim Clijsters might be dating a teenage spanish player. I saw a picture of him. He's cute but let's be serious!!!

Can you please post the pic? :) hehe

Mihret
11-07-2004, 12:36 PM
Here's the link to the pictures
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=139883

~EMiLiTA~
11-07-2004, 12:48 PM
haha this is getting funny now

riotgirl
11-07-2004, 12:50 PM
Thanks. :)
He's quite cute.

kimberlleyton
11-07-2004, 12:57 PM
Wonderful and now the rumour mill says that Kim Clijsters might be dating a teenage spanish player.

The journalist launched this rumour because Kim said that she was here to encourage Caroline Maes but Maes is out and Kim is always there. So the Press is excited.
And moreover, this journalist would have seen them walking hand by hand, but in that case why taking pics where she is near him and no pics hand by hand? :smash: :cuckoo:
All this journalists make theories to hope to fall on the real one. :mad:

raeesa301
11-07-2004, 01:21 PM
Hi! I usually just lurk around reading what ever1 else has 2 say, but i think that the journalists are being stupid and just wanna try and sell their papers and they are really starting to piss me off. :mad:

mitalidas
11-07-2004, 01:27 PM
she could be seen next to any man now, and she would be accused of dating him

RaRaChick
11-07-2004, 02:19 PM
I agree with the 'its none of our business' comment, but I'm still in shock about the break-up with Kim and I'm only a fan who doesn't even know them, so imagine how Lleyton must feel - he cant possibly be ready for another relationship after being with Kim for 5 years.

Sorry if you've read my post that said nearly the same as this in the other thread, I don't mean to repeat myself :p

Kimberlleyton, don't worry about your english its brilliant!! :yeah: I can totally understand what you're saying. I'd never have the confidence to write on here in french, even though I've ben speaking it for years, so please keep posting!!! :)

Els
11-07-2004, 03:35 PM
i just want to say that i don't believe Lleyton is datin Golovin and Kim isn't dating this Pablo either i think, someone even said that this Pablo is Michaela Kraijcek's boyfriend and i think that might be true since i've read it on a few different sites.
i really hope Kim and Lleyton get back together but if not i wish them both the best

raeesa301
11-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Hi Els :wavey: . I wanted 2 say that i agree with you and that it is wrong for reporters to go around saying that either one of them have a new bf/gf when they are seen with the opposite gender.

Els
11-07-2004, 03:44 PM
Hi Els :wavey: . I wanted 2 say that i agree with you and that it is wrong for reporters to go around saying that either one of them have a new bf/gf when they are seen with the opposite gender.

Hi :wavey: (sorry don't know your name) it's not only true for them but i think it counts for everyone, if all the persons you are seen with would be your bf/gf everybody would have plenty of them
thanks for the welcome :kiss:

raeesa301
11-07-2004, 03:50 PM
My name is raeesa and i know what you mean. It just seems particulary unfair to lleyton & kim cuz they have all the media up in their faces all the time. :angel:

Lynne
11-08-2004, 12:43 PM
she could be seen next to any man now, and she would be accused of dating him


I agree.... the journalists are really :shrug:

star
11-08-2004, 01:38 PM
It means nothing to me if they were seen standing next to one another, but if they really were walking holding hands that would lead me to believe they were more than just friends.

raeesa301
11-08-2004, 01:43 PM
It means nothing to me if they were seen standing next to one another, but if they really were walking holding hands that would lead me to believe they were more than just friends.
I think the whole holding hands bit is made up. There's no evidence and i'm pretty sure that photographers would have taken pictures of them.

RaRaChick
11-08-2004, 06:07 PM
I agree with star and raessa, the press are just making this up to stir up gossip :(

Hi raessa :wavey: i'm Nicole :)

raeesa301
11-08-2004, 06:29 PM
Hi Nicole :wavey: ! Someone at CCL (sorry cant remember name) posted that pablo and his coach were really shocked about it. Especially since he had a gf already. Apparently all they were doing was playing snooker. His coach said kim was a really nice girl :p but there was no mention about the holding hands incident.

-=Safinette=-
11-09-2004, 03:23 AM
Hi Nicole :wavey: ! Someone at CCL (sorry cant remember name) posted that pablo and his coach were really shocked about it. Especially since he had a gf already. Apparently all they were doing was playing snooker. His coach said kim was a really nice girl :p but there was no mention about the holding hands incident.

Hi everyone! :wavey:

I read in the gm that Pablo is Michaela Kraijeck's boyfriend. :)

sprinterluck
11-09-2004, 04:01 AM
Hi Nicole :wavey: ! Someone at CCL (sorry cant remember name) posted that pablo and his coach were really shocked about it. Especially since he had a gf already. Apparently all they were doing was playing snooker. His coach said kim was a really nice girl :p but there was no mention about the holding hands incident.

could someone tell me what "snooker" is? :confused:

Lisbeth
11-09-2004, 04:31 AM
It's related to pool, billiards and other such games played on a green table with sticks and little balls. Sorry for my terribly "technical" explanation :lol:

I don't believe any of these rumours about either Kim or Lleyton. They're popular people, it's hardly surprising if they happen to be seen out with someone once in a while ;)

Mihret
11-09-2004, 07:56 AM
What's this business that I read in the CCL forum: Hewitt was seen with Golovin outside the match against Safin! Anybody else heard that one?

hemagirl
11-09-2004, 11:59 AM
indeed Pablo is de Friend of Mischa Krajicek. She said it in Holland Sport, tv Programm. He was in Holland to go with her to the film wimbledon!!! He is cute :D

fifiricci
11-09-2004, 12:08 PM
What's this business that I read in the CCL forum: Hewitt was seen with Golovin outside the match against Safin! Anybody else heard that one?

Apparently it came from the French/Aussie media? There is also a view that there is a lot more "weight" in the Hewitt/Golovin match up than the Kim/Pablo one, so there!!

star
11-09-2004, 12:21 PM
I know that there are people in CCL who seem to be bitter about Lleyton having an intrest in Golovin. I don't see why. If Kim doesn't want him and a hot young thing shows interest in him and makes him feel good about himself, it's ok with me. Lots of guys (and girls) rebound like this. Lleyton has always been a hot item and a lot of people (not me) wondered what he saw in Kim because he could have his selection of gorgeous girls from all over the world. Kim had to know that when she dropped him, there would be tons (tonnes) of girls waiting to snap him up.

tournesol
11-09-2004, 03:27 PM
I know that there are people in CCL who seem to be bitter about Lleyton having an intrest in Golovin. I don't see why. If Kim doesn't want him and a hot young thing shows interest in him and makes him feel good about himself, it's ok with me. Lots of guys (and girls) rebound like this. Lleyton has always been a hot item and a lot of people (not me) wondered what he saw in Kim because he could have his selection of gorgeous girls from all over the world. Kim had to know that when she dropped him, there would be tons (tonnes) of girls waiting to snap him up.

life goes on indeed; it's hard enough without having to justify oneself or being judged by others

i wish Ll not to loose confidence

RaRaChick
11-09-2004, 06:09 PM
Yeah i agree with Danielle and Christina, he's free to do what he wants. He's young, hot and single! :p Hope he doesn't get together with someone on the rebound though, that never works out...well, almost never ;)

raeesa301
11-09-2004, 06:16 PM
I agree! :p They have a right to date whoever they want and if ppl don't like it it's just too bad cuz you can't decide who they date. I just hope they stay friends though or at least that there will be no bad feelings between them. :angel:

RaRaChick
11-09-2004, 06:35 PM
I really hope they could maybe be friends too, but I can't see that happening :sad: Maybe in the future, but not right now.

sprinterluck
11-09-2004, 07:12 PM
I agree they have the right to date whoever they want. I think that fans of both Lleyton and Kim are just in disbelief and it will take time for it to really sink in that it's over. Wishful thinking maybe that it's all just a hiccup. It's just shocking when the bubble bursts...From a love fest to the point where they might not even be cordial to each other. That's sad and I do hope it won't be too awkward/tense in the player's lounge :boxing: :armed: when they see each other because I want them both to do well on the court next year :bounce: :bigclap:

fifiricci
11-09-2004, 07:24 PM
I know that there are people in CCL who seem to be bitter about Lleyton having an intrest in Golovin. I don't see why. If Kim doesn't want him and a hot young thing shows interest in him and makes him feel good about himself, it's ok with me. Lots of guys (and girls) rebound like this. Lleyton has always been a hot item and a lot of people (not me) wondered what he saw in Kim because he could have his selection of gorgeous girls from all over the world. Kim had to know that when she dropped him, there would be tons (tonnes) of girls waiting to snap him up.

I don't think Kim fans think that way at all. Its just that Lleyton has obviously been portrayed as the "broken hearted victim" and Kim has been portayed as some kind of "nasty" person for ending the relationship, so it seems kind of ironic now that he might be the one who's fallen first for the temptation of other flesh. I think its a case of he cant have his cake and eat it.

Personally, I dont care who he dates or when, but those who are making him out to be a victim had better change their tune if he is already off dating other women.

Socket
11-09-2004, 08:48 PM
I have no evidence for this, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lleyton's friends are trying to set him up with other girls so that he can forget what happened and move on. Guys think that way, you know. "You're free, man, jump into the deep end of the pool and have some fun!"

kimberlleyton
11-09-2004, 08:51 PM
Oh guys, be totally honest. On the forums, there is people that look for "the guilty one" and have opinion by only one side.
But, here, in this board I think people seems to stand friendly and objective. We are human being, with a brain, a heart, emotions, preferences that are not necessarily the one of the others.
About the split, some are bothered, others not, About "eventual new bf/gf", we appreciate or not but if our principal interest is the tennis, that's THE important thing.
Personally, I don't like Golovin (nevertheless she is French like me) but by myself I don't care if he dates with her.
Does that change the tennis of Lleyton? No, So I want to see Lleyton plays tennis, I want to see his fighting spirit, I want to heard his "C'mon", and I hope he wins australian open's final in 5 sets against Federer.
Above all, I watch Lleyton and his tennis for that .
Others things is only Literature (as we said in France).

^Sue^
11-10-2004, 03:40 AM
Kim recentl;y haging out with a ranked 1090 atp 18 years old youngster....

^Sue^
11-10-2004, 03:45 AM
Is it true??

sprinterluck
11-10-2004, 04:16 AM
It's related to pool, billiards and other such games played on a green table with sticks and little balls. Sorry for my terribly "technical" explanation :lol:

I don't believe any of these rumours about either Kim or Lleyton. They're popular people, it's hardly surprising if they happen to be seen out with someone once in a while ;)
Thanks for the snooker explanation. :)

Lleyki30
11-10-2004, 05:55 AM
About the split, some are bothered, others not, About "eventual new bf/gf", we appreciate or not but if our principal interest is the tennis, that's THE important thing.
Personally, I don't like Golovin (nevertheless she is French like me) but by myself I don't care if he dates with her.
Does that change the tennis of Lleyton? No, So I want to see Lleyton plays tennis, I want to see his fighting spirit, I want to heard his "C'mon", and I hope he wins australian open's final in 5 sets against Federer.
Above all, I watch Lleyton and his tennis for that .
Others things is only Literature (as we said in France).

I totally agree with you though I'm as sad and shock as most people in this forum. Tennis is the main reason I like both Kim and Lleyton, not their relationship. And about the five-set final against Federer you've mentioned, that could be my New-Year wish of next year.

kim-fan
11-10-2004, 08:49 AM
Kim recentl;y haging out with a ranked 1090 atp 18 years old youngster....

they are just friends, don't worry ;)

Mihret
11-10-2004, 11:49 AM
OK I think everybody is sick of those rumours and thinks we should move on but before we do, I would just like to post the part of an article that I found on the website www.tennis-x.com to show the people who thought that Kim and LLeyton should understand the media and should have been prepared to be followed everywhere and stuff like that. Honestly, I was not feeling sorry for them at first but when you read how the media insists on knowing the reason of the breakink up, it starts to scare you:

TENNIS-X NEWS, NOTES, QUOTES AND BARBS
Still trying to connect the dots in the Lleyton Hewitt-Kim Clijsters-Tatiana Golovin triumvirate. Was the 16-year-old French sensation Golovin the recipient of an early visit when Hewitt fled to Paris (not Hilton), France to "practice" early for the Masters Series-Paris? And how bold was it for Golovin to sit in Hewitt's box during his match, cheering for the Aussie? As one reporter queried Hewitt after he lost in Paris: "You seem in a really good mood although you lost a tough game...you seemed to have a nice time here in Paris." Just how nice a time? Now we hear from a former tour employee about a Golvin rendezvous in Tokyo earlier this year that was the impetus for the Clijsters break-up? It is slow going, but it will all come out eventually -- maybe on Kim's website?...

tournesol
11-10-2004, 12:03 PM
I don't think Kim fans think that way at all. Its just that Lleyton has obviously been portrayed as the "broken hearted victim" and Kim has been portayed as some kind of "nasty" person for ending the relationship, so it seems kind of ironic now that he might be the one who's fallen first for the temptation of other flesh. I think its a case of he cant have his cake and eat it.

Personally, I dont care who he dates or when, but those who are making him out to be a victim had better change their tune if he is already off dating other women.

i don't see Ll as a victim; he would have been a victim if the marriage had taken place and this kind of split happened soon after it.

and i don't see kim as a nasty person, it takes a lot of courage to cancell everything just weeks away from the ceremony; it much easier to let the machine roll.

they are probably both deeply affected and in such circumstances unpredictable behaviour does happen.

i wish them lots of courage

Lynne
11-10-2004, 12:58 PM
I'm just curious: Was Tati sitting in Hewitt's box during his match??

And yeah, we can't control who they date.... The media tries to stir things up when they see Kim or Lleyton with another person of the opposite sex - And there goes the gf/bf thing.... I think this thing will eventually stop and they can date normally again.. I mean date other people.... The news just came in a sudden and it's just unbelievable how their relationship ended just weeks away from the wedding... But we have to respect their decision.... No one else except the both of them know what actually happened between them.. :)

Socket
11-10-2004, 01:09 PM
I'm just curious: Was Tati sitting in Hewitt's box during his match??

And yeah, we can't control who they date.... The media tries to stir things up when they see Kim or Lleyton with another person of the opposite sex - And there goes the gf/bf thing.... I think this thing will eventually stop and they can date normally again.. I mean date other people.... The news just came in a sudden and it's just unbelievable how their relationship ended just weeks away from the wedding... But we have to respect their decision.... No one else except the both of them know what actually happened between them.. :)

I didn't have coverage of the Paris matches, but from what I've heard, she was not sitting in his box. A friend who was at Bercy told me that she heard that there was a players' party in Tokyo that both Golovin and Lleyton attended, so maybe that's where the rumors of the "meeting" that the tennis-x site is talking about started, but I don't see how attending the same party means that two players are having a relationship.

I wouldn't believe too much about Lleyton from tennis-x; the guy who runs it is a real Hewitt hater, and I'm sure he'd love to spread some dirt about Lleyton.

Lynne
11-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Yeah, I don't quite believe it either....I mean the Tati-Hewitt relationship..
Anyway, thanks for the info, Socket!! :)

budgirlbz
11-11-2004, 11:33 PM
So are they or are they not? Tati and Lleyton...this is just breaking my heart even more...But they say the more they're apart the more they'll realize how much they love each other...so I'm still hoping for a lleyki reconciliation...

fifiricci
11-12-2004, 09:59 AM
So are they or are they not? Tati and Lleyton...this is just breaking my heart even more...But they say the more they're apart the more they'll realize how much they love each other...so I'm still hoping for a lleyki reconciliation...

Well I have a theory that the key that made Kim and Lleyton's relationship work was just that - "absence making the heart grow fonder". This year they didnt have those long absences, because Kim was injured for most of the year and they spent a LOT of time together. So maybe they went from "absence making the heart grow fonder" to "familiarity breeding contempt". It happens, however much people think they are in love with each other.

lleyrules
11-12-2004, 10:31 AM
[QUOTE=Mihret]OK I think everybody is sick of those rumours and thinks we should move on but before we do, I would just like to post the part of an article that I found on the website www.tennis-x.com to show the people who thought that Kim and LLeyton should understand the media and should have been prepared to be followed everywhere and stuff like that. Honestly, I was not feeling sorry for them at first but when you read how the media insists on knowing the reason of the breakink up, it starts to scare you:

TENNIS-X NEWS, NOTES, QUOTES AND BARBS
Still trying to connect the dots in the Lleyton Hewitt-Kim Clijsters-Tatiana Golovin triumvirate. Was the 16-year-old French sensation Golovin the recipient of an early visit when Hewitt fled to Paris (not Hilton),

If Tennis X cares to check his facts he will find that Golovin was not in Paris at that time - she was playing a quarter-final (can't remember where) against Alicia Molik on 30th October!!
the only prerson with Ll and the best person in my opinion is is his ever loyal best mate Hayden!!

Danni
11-12-2004, 11:19 AM
Well I have a theory that the key that made Kim and Lleyton's relationship work was just that - "absence making the heart grow fonder". This year they didnt have those long absences, because Kim was injured for most of the year and they spent a LOT of time together. So maybe they went from "absence making the heart grow fonder" to "familiarity breeding contempt". It happens, however much people think they are in love with each other.
lol nice theory ;)

Yasmine
11-12-2004, 04:55 PM
Well I have a theory that the key that made Kim and Lleyton's relationship work was just that - "absence making the heart grow fonder". This year they didnt have those long absences, because Kim was injured for most of the year and they spent a LOT of time together. So maybe they went from "absence making the heart grow fonder" to "familiarity breeding contempt". It happens, however much people think they are in love with each other.
Fiona ;) your wisdom speaks once more :cool: !

~EMiLiTA~
11-13-2004, 09:32 AM
I just watched the Spanish news and they mentioned that Pablo guy and Kim...didn't say anything we didn't already know...just denied the fact that there was anything between him and Kim...just said he had been at the tournament in Belgium and that absolutely nothing happened between them.

I totally agree with your theory though fifiricci

fifiricci
11-14-2004, 06:38 PM
Kimmy dated this guy, Lleyton Hewitt

On the love match CD you can view it

Then it all got too much,

She kicked him into touch

Now we like to call him Lleyton Blewitt!

:devil:

tennisfan16
11-22-2004, 11:43 PM
It must be pretty hard, you know? To break up after 4 years? I feel bad for them.

Sweet Girl
11-24-2004, 05:09 PM
It's soooooo sad!!! They were such a beautiful couple!and I don't believe in a relationship between Lley and Tati....to me is just rumors!

and I agree with you tennisfan16 it must be pretty hard...... :sad:

billhugh
11-29-2004, 10:15 AM
I just posted this on GM but I'll re-post it here. THe more I think about this, the fishier it sounds to me.

I have to wonder if this is true . . . Kim and Lleyton are popular, well-known stars in both Australia and Belgium. They have agents and managers who would handle something this explosive for them in a professional manner. Announcing their breakup in a few sentences on her website is very, very amateur. It's much more likely that Octagon would issue a press release. Let's wait until something gets confirmed (or denied). I think the website-was-hacked theory might have some merit.Octagon says maybe Kim found someone else or she is fed up with Lleytons parents interference.In other words their not talking.billhugh :wavey:

star
11-29-2004, 01:00 PM
:wavey: Welcome to Lleyton's forum! Hope you post here more.

Yeah. We're pretty much over the whole break up thing.

Lleyton's got the better end of things I think because he's had to appear in public, face the music, and get it over with. I feel sorry Kim hasn't had that same opportunity. It seems to me that things are worse when you put them off.

tennnisgirl7
12-05-2004, 10:34 PM
That is so so so sad, how can it be?

Jac7_bella
12-06-2004, 01:03 PM
Ok! I have posted this on the Lleytonland site when the brake up came to air. I'll just tell you that these things happen all the time. U never really know. I know that it was hard when we all heard about it. But seems to me that it's all over now. Everything is going ok and Lleyton seems to be enjoyin hanging around with Andrew McLeod. So yeah! Such is life!!!! :)

sprinterluck
12-08-2004, 06:00 AM
Ok! I have posted this on the Lleytonland site when the brake up came to air. I'll just tell you that these things happen all the time. U never really know. I know that it was hard when we all heard about it. But seems to me that it's all over now. Everything is going ok and Lleyton seems to be enjoyin hanging around with Andrew McLeod. So yeah! Such is life!!!! :)

It is sad, but it's to be expected given Lleyton's track record. Lleyton's had many shocking, sudden broken relationships in his relatively short life:
1) The surprising fallout with his former coach Darren Cahill after taking Lleyton to the US Open title, Masters Cup title and #1. Lleyton himself said Darren was the first person to really believe in him, that he could make it to the top. Then Lleyton's father puts some weird clause into Cahill's contract stipulating that Cahill's wife and infant son were banned from travelling with the team. :scratch: Seems that Glynn Hewitt didn't exactly make it easy for Cahill to renew his contract.
2) The very strange and sudden split with Cahill's successor, Jason Stoltenberg just before Lleyton was to defend his Wimbledon title! :eek:
3) Collapse of the relationship and engagement to Kim Clijsters. Very sad situation. :sad: It's also surprising that they lasted that long almost 5 years!

It's becoming a pattern in Lleyton's life and IMHO I'm beginning to think more and more that he needs to start becoming his own man sans the overattentive parents. Sure he might make mistakes if he becomes independent, but that's all a part of maturing and growing up. He'll be 24 in two months and it's getting ridiculous these sudden breakups. :rolleyes:

Jac7_bella
12-08-2004, 07:14 AM
It's gonna come out one day I reckon. But we will just have to wait until then. It's too hard to just guess these kind of things. :)

raeesa301
12-08-2004, 08:39 AM
Hey guys! thought you would like to know that they removed the "Lleyton" section on Kim's website and some love match pics. It's also not called the love match anymore it's called Belgacom Tennis Masters.

Yasmine
12-08-2004, 08:51 AM
It's becoming a pattern in Lleyton's life and IMHO I'm beginning to think more and more that he needs to start becoming his own man sans the overattentive parents.
I really agree here:wavey:, I think he needs to cut the umbilical cord (sorry that's a french expression i translated but I'm sure you all get the point :p) and start living for himself. No wonder Kim had the guts to break up because she couldn't stand all this anymore... :eek:

kim-fan
12-08-2004, 01:01 PM
No wonder Kim had the guts to break up because she couldn't stand all this anymore... :eek:

you don't know the reason why the broke up, so maybe we should just leave it, you know

Yasmine
12-08-2004, 01:04 PM
you don't know the reason why the broke up, so maybe we should just leave it, you know
You're absolutely right :wavey: , it was just a thought. Sorry I didn't want to start a polemic on it at all :tape:.

star
12-08-2004, 01:50 PM
I really agree here:wavey:, I think he needs to cut the umbilical cord (sorry that's a french expression i translated but I'm sure you all get the point :p) and start living for himself. No wonder Kim had the guts to break up because she couldn't stand all this anymore... :eek:

Cutting the umbillical cord is the expression used in English too. :)

I think Lleyton is living for himself.

(EDIT: This next part is a response to Sprinterluck's post only)

And also... not directed toward you Yasmine, but to Sprinterluck, you are printing rumor as fact. Lleyton has three splits with people close to him, so you manufacture an entire theory out of that. You leave out all the long term relationships he has with any number of people that continue to this day. None of us know enough about what happened in any of those releationships to be able to draw conclusions about Lleyton's character.

What I do know about Lleyton's character is this: He was a young man with a high powered career who but his own goals, objectives, and desires aside sometimes to support his girlfriend faithfully. Most male tennis players wouldn't watch a women't match for more than 10 minutes and that is stretching it some. He's a young man who has been quietly dedicated to a charitable cause since near the beginning of his professional career. He's a young man who chose a girl with personality and verve over taking his time to sample the numerous beauties ready to sleep with a wealthy top athlete. He's a young man who listed as his biggest accomplishment "getting Kim Clijsters to marry me," rather than becoming number one for two years in a row or winning a grand slam title.

Lleyton is a young man who I am sure has made mistakes and will make many more. I don't worship any tennis player. Diminishing his character, however, doesn't sit well with me.

I'm sure I could manufacture any number of theories about this breakup that would cast Kim in an unpleasant light.

tournesol
12-08-2004, 02:17 PM
Cutting the umbillical cord is the expression used in English too. :)

I think Lleyton is living for himself.

What I do know about Lleyton's character is this: He was a young man with a high powered career who but his own goals, objectives, and desires aside sometimes to support his girlfriend faithfully. Most male tennis players wouldn't watch a women't match for more than 10 minutes and that is stretching it some. He's a young man who has been quietly dedicated to a charitable cause since near the beginning of his professional career. He's a young man who chose a girl with personality and verve over taking his time to sample the numerous beauties ready to sleep with a wealthy top athlete. He's a young man who listed as his biggest accomplishment "getting Kim Clijsters to marry me," rather than becoming number one for two years in a row or winning a grand slam title.

Lleyton is a young man who I am sure has made mistakes and will make many more. I don't worship any tennis player. Diminishing his character, however, doesn't sit well with me.



hopefully he will keep this attitude and so contribute to make the world a better place :worship:

Yasmine
12-08-2004, 02:55 PM
And also... not directed toward you Yasmine, but to Sprinterluck, you are printing rumor as fact. Lleyton has three splits with people close to him, so you manufacture an entire theory out of that. You leave out all the long term relationships he has with any number of people that continue to this day. None of us know enough about what happened in any of those releationships to be able to draw conclusions about Lleyton's character.
Yeah you are right we don't know anything about what and how it happened and these are just thoughts. I guess next time I'll just keep it for myself if it's going to offend anyone. It's not going to change my view of him or the fact I am a big fan. Talking about rumours, I think others have already spread more than enough and I don't think expressing my thoughts is going to make any difference. The media are damn good at doing this and there have been a few examples of those lately, no need to remind anyone.

What I do know about Lleyton's character is this: He was a young man with a high powered career who but his own goals, objectives, and desires aside sometimes to support his girlfriend faithfully. Most male tennis players wouldn't watch a women't match for more than 10 minutes and that is stretching it some. He's a young man who has been quietly dedicated to a charitable cause since near the beginning of his professional career. He's a young man who chose a girl with personality and verve over taking his time to sample the numerous beauties ready to sleep with a wealthy top athlete. He's a young man who listed as his biggest accomplishment "getting Kim Clijsters to marry me," rather than becoming number one for two years in a row or winning a grand slam title.

A guy can be strong and ambitious and still very soft in certain circumstances particularly with family. So Lleyton is all what you said I agree but that wouldn't stop him from being attached to his family and willing to please them and to follow their "instructions" in a way (sorry I didn't find another way of putting it). I know quite a few people like that around me. And there is nothing wrong with it.

Lleyton is a young man who I am sure has made mistakes and will make many more. I don't worship any tennis player. Diminishing his character, however, doesn't sit well with me.

I'm sure I could manufacture any number of theories about this breakup that would cast Kim in an unpleasant light.
well I am not diminishing his caracter at all and I am sorry you take it that way. I wouldn't post here if I wasn't a big fan of his after all. I know there must have been stories in both countries really putting the fault on the other but I'm not doing that am I. To be honest I have refused to read any of the articles after the break up so I can't really say my thoughts have been influenced by one side or the other.
Now if you personally think there might have been other reasons for the break up then I respect that, but insinuating I am diminishing his caracter (and therefore lacking some respect to him), I don't find that too nice either. So being a fan would imply that we can't disagree with the way things are on his side? I don't think so.

star
12-08-2004, 03:21 PM
Yeah you are right we don't know anything about what and how it happened and these are just thoughts. I guess next time I'll just keep it for myself if it's going to offend anyone. It's not going to change my view of him or the fact I am a big fan. Talking about rumours, I think others have already spread more than enough and I don't think expressing my thoughts is going to make any difference. The media are damn good at doing this and there have been a few examples of those lately, no need to remind anyone.


A guy can be strong and ambitious and still very soft in certain circumstances particularly with family. So Lleyton is all what you said I agree but that wouldn't stop him from being attached to his family and willing to please them and to follow their "instructions" in a way (sorry I didn't find another way of putting it). I know quite a few people like that around me. And there is nothing wrong with it.

well I am not diminishing his caracter at all and I am sorry you take it that way. I wouldn't post here if I wasn't a big fan of his after all. I know there must have been stories in both countries really putting the fault on the other but I'm not doing that am I. To be honest I have refused to read any of the articles after the break up so I can't really say my thoughts have been influenced by one side or the other.
Now if you personally think there might have been other reasons for the break up then I respect that, but insinuating I am diminishing his caracter (and therefore lacking some respect to him), I don't find that too nice either. So being a fan would imply that we can't disagree with the way things are on his side? I don't think so.

Sorry Yasmine. I should have made that two posts. First I responded to your post and then to Sprintersluck. I did say...... "Not directed to you Yasmine, but to Sprintersluck" But I guess that didnt' make it sufficiently clear.

I didn't think you were diminishing Lleyton's character at all. :hug: :hug:

raeesa301
12-08-2004, 03:40 PM
Hey guys!! If anyone was hoping for a bit of a reunion between kim and lleyton at the AO or thought it might be funny to hear of some awkward moments then i'm sorry to break it you but it ain't gonna happen!! At least not in Jan. Kim isn't playing at Aus so maybe the press might cool it down a bit but I doubt it. It's gonna be tough on lleyton.

sprinterluck
12-08-2004, 04:29 PM
Cutting the umbillical cord is the expression used in English too. :)

I think Lleyton is living for himself.

(EDIT: This next part is a response to Sprinterluck's post only)

And also... not directed toward you Yasmine, but to Sprinterluck, you are printing rumor as fact. Lleyton has three splits with people close to him, so you manufacture an entire theory out of that. You leave out all the long term relationships he has with any number of people that continue to this day. None of us know enough about what happened in any of those releationships to be able to draw conclusions about Lleyton's character.

What I do know about Lleyton's character is this: He was a young man with a high powered career who but his own goals, objectives, and desires aside sometimes to support his girlfriend faithfully. Most male tennis players wouldn't watch a women't match for more than 10 minutes and that is stretching it some. He's a young man who has been quietly dedicated to a charitable cause since near the beginning of his professional career. He's a young man who chose a girl with personality and verve over taking his time to sample the numerous beauties ready to sleep with a wealthy top athlete. He's a young man who listed as his biggest accomplishment "getting Kim Clijsters to marry me," rather than becoming number one for two years in a row or winning a grand slam title.

Lleyton is a young man who I am sure has made mistakes and will make many more. I don't worship any tennis player. Diminishing his character, however, doesn't sit well with me.

I'm sure I could manufacture any number of theories about this breakup that would cast Kim in an unpleasant light.

I am not attacking Lleyton's character in any way. I agree Lleyton's supported Kim. I think they were both generous to each other in that respect and it's commendable. :) My post does not criticize Lleyton's character. Rather, I'm pointing at his unusually close attachment to his parents who both travel with him constantly and keep a watchful eye over him. Not only are they present courtside during matches, but also present during practice sessions. His father deals with the financial aspects as Lleyton has said which includes contract negotiations, etc.

If anything, I am criticizing his parents overattentiveness.
It's up to the parents really to wean their children, like weaning a baby off his mother's milk. After a while, the child needs to make it on his own.There comes a point when one needs to take full responsibility for his/her career and Lleyton's becoming a man now. He may want his parents there because it's comforting, but is that really in his best interests in the long run?

Also, it's just an observation that there is a pattern of major sudden bust-ups here. Yes he might have maintained other long term relationships that we don't know about at home in Australia. But what we do know is that there were 3 relationships (Cahill, Stoltenberg, Clijsters) that were all a part of his main tennis-related travelling entourage that suddenly went kaput, finito. I'm not presenting anything I write as fact. Is the part about Glynn Hewitt including the "no family clause" in Cahill's contract true? It's up to the reader to accept or reject these reports. This is a message board after all. It's just my humble opinion. I am a Lleyton fan and want to see him do well, but that does not preclude criticizing his career choices.

Jess
12-08-2004, 05:57 PM
In defence of the parents:

Firstly I will admit that I don't like Chezilla and I can imagine she's a domineering interfering witch as a mother in law and may or may not have been the contributory factor in the split. BUT I can to an extent understand their continued, very active presence in Lleyton's life.

He's a had a totally different adolescence to most children and when you take into consideration all the pressures he has that most 23 year olds don't have - constant media attention, millions of pounds (which need to be managed properly), sponsorship stuff and probably a lot more than we don't really know about. It's not surprising that he still wants his parents very involved. If I had all those pressures as well as constantly having to worry about being at the very top of a competitive sport, I think I would want to be surrounded by experienced adults I could trust 100% which might well be my parents.

So although they might not come across too well in public and yes they might interfere a bit, but I can sort of understand why they do and why he wants them to!

Socket
12-08-2004, 06:17 PM
First, I think that comparing Lleyton's relationship with Kim to his relationships with Cahil and Stoltenberg might be stretching things a bit. Yes, he was good mates with both Darren and Jason, but they had a business-based, contractual relationship. That's certainly not the case with Kim. So, to me, it's comparing apples and oranges.

Second, I agree with Jess that Lleyton's relationship with his parents is different that of most people his age because his entire life is vey different from most 23-year-olds. He's not a college graduate, travels for the majority of the year, and has virtually no business experience. He needs somebody that he can trust completely to handle his financial affairs and a lot of his personal life, too. His parents fit that bill. I'm sure that Lleyton is aware that a fair number of players, such as Borg and Becker, have gotten ripped off by having strangers handle their finances -- Borg's agent lost him millions of dollars by bad investment.

A lot of other players do use their parents or other relatives to handle their personal and business affairs, but you don't hear about it because those parents don't travel as much with their children. Pete Sampras's brother Gus was his agent for years, and the Bryan Brothers' dad is their manager. The only thing that's atypical about the Hewitts is how much they travel with Lleyton, and frankly, considering how far away Australia is from where a majority of the tournaments are played, it makes sense to me that they do travel with him. Pat Rafter traveled with at least one of his many brothers for most of his career, and one of his brother managed his finances and contracts, just like Lleyton's dad handles his. I always find it a bit annoying that the Hewitts get criticized all the time for being at the tournaments, while Pat's brothers never did.

Yasmine
12-08-2004, 06:23 PM
Sorry Yasmine. I should have made that two posts. First I responded to your post and then to Sprintersluck. I did say...... "Not directed to you Yasmine, but to Sprintersluck" But I guess that didnt' make it sufficiently clear.

Well I sort of agreed with Sprinterluck (what's your guys names btw, I prefer using peoples names :p) maybe I didn't go as far but I sort of think that the over protection they have on Lleyton might have been the cause of the break up. As Jess said their behavious is a bit understandable but it doesn't mean I agree with it.

raeesa301
12-08-2004, 07:16 PM
I agree with Sockets post. But the only thing is there are so many tennis players who have their parents dealing with the financial side of things but their parents don't go everywhere they go. Lleyton is already a grown man and he can make decisions himself. It's his choice if he wants his parents with him! If he didn't want them there then I'm sure he'd tell them, it might be a bit difficult but i'm sure he'd do it.

But then again, none of us know what it's like to be Lleyton Hewitt. Think about it. Hayden and Andrew can't go everywhere with him. So he can't have his friends with him all the time. Jaslyn can't be with him all the time and so who else is left to support him besides the coaches and those people? His friends and family have lives and they don't revolve around him. So maybe it might feel good to have the extra support.

People have their opinions about the parent thing. Reporters always have to say something and that bugs me because what do they know. To me the first thing you have to do before you say something or do something to that person is put yourself in that person's place. Maybe Lleyton wants his parents there. Some of us may think that's not good for him but it's his choice and we can't change his mind. If it's a mistake to have them there then it's up to him realise it's a mistake, not us.

What I'm basically trying to say is that it might be a good thing in some respects to have his parents with him but bad in other respects. There are pro's and cons of practically everything we do and that's just the way it is. But before anybody can think like that think about what you're talking about. Before you talk about Lleyton and his personal life you have to put yourself in his shoes. I know people think that his parents want to be there and they are adding pressure to his life. But it's up to him to tell them to go away and give him a break, not us.

Murkofan
12-08-2004, 08:18 PM
Hey guys! thought you would like to know that they removed the "Lleyton" section on Kim's website and some love match pics. It's also not called the love match anymore it's called Belgacom Tennis Masters.

Ooh, harsh :p

Murkofan
12-08-2004, 08:21 PM
I always find it a bit annoying that the Hewitts get criticized all the time for being at the tournaments, while Pat's brothers never did.

That's 'cause Pat's a saint :p

raeesa301
12-08-2004, 08:25 PM
Ooh, harsh :p

They removed the pic of them kissing too!!

Murkofan
12-08-2004, 08:36 PM
Wonder if they'll go back and remove every mention of Lleyton from her diary entries :p

Socket
12-08-2004, 08:43 PM
That's 'cause Pat's a saint :p
Of course! I forgot! *smacks self upside the head* How silly of me!

star
12-08-2004, 11:39 PM
Same thing with Federer. He fired IMG and now his parents and girlfriend have taken over all the the things IMG used to handle.

Socket
12-09-2004, 12:24 AM
Same thing with Federer. He fired IMG and now his parents and girlfriend have taken over all the the things IMG used to handle.
Good point. I've wondered if Mirka has some kind of contract with Roger for the work she does for him. If they ever break up, she could file one hell of a palimony suit against him, couldn't she.

star
12-09-2004, 03:53 AM
I dunno what the laws are in Switzerland. ;)

sprinterluck
01-04-2005, 02:40 AM
lleyton's official website has been taken off temporarily. i did notice that on kim's website the "Lleyton" section is still there, but I presume its a matter of time before that's removed

Don't know if this was posted already.
The webmaster of Kim's website removed the "Lleyton" section last month. And the photo album of Lleyton pics and the pic of Jaslyn Hewitt is gone too. The only trace of Lleyton is the album of the Love Game, but it's called Belgacom Tennis Masters now and the pic of Lleyton and Kim kissing at the net is gone.